In this last interview of the season, Jess sits down with Catherine Zinger -- the older sister of Jess's friend Myra, who was her inspiration for doing this show.
If Jess's brief yet life-changing relationship with Myra helped launch this series, then Catherine serves as its future. These two women began their relationship at a most unique time: while Myra was dying. And both regard their encounter as divinely orchestrated, for they now remain forever tied together in love, hope, and gratitude.
Jess and Catherine quickly delve into their own perspectives on Myra's last few weeks, particularly through the lens of grace and heartbreak, reflecting on their personal relationships with Myra, their reactions to the devastating news of her terminal illness, and the resulting love, compassion, and gratitude that sprang between their families.
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