Ep. 338 - Buck From Mountain Monsters and Sons of Appalachia!

Cliff Barackman speaks with Buck, a friend of the 'squatch and one of the team featured on Mountain Monsters! Buck is here to fill us in on his newest venture with Huckleberry and Wild Bill: The Sons of Appalachia! Make sure to subscribe to their YouTube channel HERE!  Follow their Facebook page HERE. 

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Episode Transcript

Speaker 1 (00:02):
Big Food and Beyond with Cliff and Bobo.

Speaker 2 (00:08):
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Speaker 2 (00:23):
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Speaker 4 (00:26):
And now your hosts Cliff Barrickman and James Bubo Fay.

Speaker 2 (00:31):
Hello, everybody, Welcome to Big for Them Beyond with Cliff
and usually Bobo. But was not here today. He had
a work gig, apparently, some sort of camp sort of thing. Wait,
what did he tell you about this, Matt, Mister Matt PREUITTT.

Speaker 1 (00:44):
I think he was working with some scout group, some
outdoorsy kind of thing.

Speaker 3 (00:49):
And he said a lot of it.

Speaker 2 (00:50):
Was on his show Special Needs Kids Too, rit Special Needs.
That's kind of what it sounded like.

Speaker 1 (00:56):
And he said, this is just a newer program that
they're rolling out and they're putting a lot of it
on his shoulders, and so it sounds like a big responsibility.

Speaker 2 (01:04):
For him, which it seems odd to me, doesn't it
doesn't it seem to odd to you that there's a
large responsibility on bobo shoulders.

Speaker 1 (01:11):
I also noticed that he gave us a very specific
start time for this youth group, and it was the
same start time as.

Speaker 2 (01:18):
The kickoff for the San Diego Chargers.

Speaker 1 (01:21):
I don't know if he's a big fan of that
team or not, but I know he's a football fan,
so he might be double dipping on us.

Speaker 2 (01:27):
Uh oh, all right, well, yeah, maybe he's watching the
game with all the kids. Exactly. I've got money on it, dude, Yeah, exactly.
He's teaching the teaching the children. The finer are the
fine arts of gambling.

Speaker 5 (01:40):
Indeed, it's like math, dude. You gotta think what it's math.
It's good monetary skills. To you, this good stuff, it'll help,
it'll help you in the future.

Speaker 2 (01:51):
Exactly, exactly, Well, anyway, but no matter what the situation is,
Bobo is doing God's work out there in the world
or he's doing dog work out there in the world.
I'm not sure which. I'm a littlest toxic. But we're
gonna plow on without him despite his absence. I'm sure
people won't won't mind too much. He'll be back soon.
But anyway, Yeah, Matt's gonna sit and step in for Bobo.

(02:12):
Big shoes to fill, of course, And we have a
fantabulous guest with us today, super super stoked and if
you want to know what's going on, Like we usually
catch up around this time. Brot and I are going
to catch up and talk about some really cool stuff
like I might have found footprints on the property and
really really neat things. We're gonna do that in the
Members episode. So if you want to be a member,
you can hit that link in the show notes below

(02:32):
that Matt prot will certainly put down there. But man,
enough of me. Man, I'm super excited about this guest
because I'm just just love this guy. In fact, I'm
gonna say I love all these guys because we have
we are our guests. Today was on the show that
is no longer in existence called Mountain Monsters. You know,

(02:52):
you know that show with those guys running around and
doing crazy stuff. And now they have their own well
a couple of them have their own side gig on
YouTube tube. It is totally for free called Sons of
Appalashia and and we so we have the lovely and
talented Buck here today on the podcast. Buck, thank you
so much for coming on and gracing us with your presence.

Speaker 3 (03:13):
I really appreciate you having me on, Cliff. It means
a lot to me. However, you did miss misspeak because
I am not lovely.

Speaker 2 (03:22):
Oh well, I don't know. I just I see, I
see your inner soul.

Speaker 3 (03:25):
You know, Yeah, I understand. And I've said that same
thing about you. Just an absolute wonderful person. And uh
and uh, what a blessing for the opportunity to be
on here. I really appreciate it.

Speaker 2 (03:38):
Well, I've heard, I've heard dozens of people say, damn,
that boy's pretty as you walk by. So I don't
believe you for a second. I just simply do not
believe you.

Speaker 3 (03:46):
Well, they're not from my neck of the woods.

Speaker 2 (03:48):
I promise I live on I live on the West coast.

Speaker 3 (03:51):
Man.

Speaker 2 (03:54):
Yes, So so you have a new adventure out there,
and then we're gonna get to that in just a
few minutes, because I watched a little bit of it
last night. But I got to tell you, man about
years and years and years ago before I had actually
met any of you guys. I was thinking, because you know,
sometimes I take myself in the subject of sasquatch a
little too seriously. You know, I'm totally a victim of
myself in that sort of way. I get mad when

(04:15):
people mistreat the subject. And it's like all these paranormal
blah blah blah, they're doing damage of this. You know,
I always got all been out of shape about dumb
stuff because I'm trapped inside my own head and we
all have our own type of baggage, right, And that's
just one of my various types of baggage. And when
I first I didn't I never saw a Mountain Monster show, Okay,
but I knew you guys were out there, and I
knew you guys were, you know, taking the world by

(04:36):
a storm because you know, it's such an outrageous show
and you guys are outrageous characters and that sort of thing.
And I was saying, screw these guys, what are these actors?
Blah blah blah blah blah. And then we did that
gig in Pennsylvania where you guys were at the next
you know, it's like Meldrum, and then there was me,
and then I think it was you guys, you know,
on the under side of me, and I was like,

(04:56):
and oh, man, I guess I should meet him and
you know, talk to him and stuff. And then I
the way you guys interacted with the crowd, and you
just won me over and and the love that they
gave you, and you gave them in return every single
time all day long. You just won won me over
and melted my heart and said, you know what, this
is just fun entertainment. I don't take it seriously. No

(05:20):
one has to. You guys are having a great time
and everybody loves watching you. And I've just adored all
of you ever since.

Speaker 3 (05:26):
Well, I really appreciate that. And you know, whenever I
got to meet you in PA, I was, I was, uh,
I was starstruck, you know, because because I watched you
guys from the from the time I was you know,
in high school, you know, so getting to meet you
was like it was you know, I was like, oh
my gosh, just one of my heroes. This is amazing.
And then you know, then then over the years of

(05:46):
getting to do you know, opportunities of working some things together,
it's just been getting to know you. It's just you know,
become quite the friend you was. Actually, you know, I've
told people this before. You was you was the first
person to get a hold of me when Trapper passed away,
and uh and and you know, You've just always been
such so wonderful to me, and I really appreciate it.

(06:09):
You know, with Mountain Monsters, and we've talked before about
you know, with with Hollywood and and and the craziness
that goes on and and all of that. But but
with YouTube, it's it's definitely been a different experience. It's
been it's it's been nice. You know. We we've been
trying to close up some loose ends that a lot
of the fans have been interested in and trying to

(06:30):
figure things out. But but we have got to actually
do some do some some research and back to what
we really enjoyed doing, and that's that's looking for Bigfoot,
which we we will have a lot of that coming
out in in the future. We're just trying to uh
to prepare ourselves for those adventures.

Speaker 2 (06:52):
So that's one of the things that struck me after
I got a chance to actually speak to all of
you individually and kind of away from no camera, running
into away from everything, and kind of one of the
one of the things I enjoy doing, whether it's with
you guys, or the people from Expedition Bigfoot or any
of the know, any of these TV shows. It's kind
of lamenting the situation of Hollywood. You know, Hollywood is
a is a bottom feeding sort of soul sucking place

(07:16):
that is more than happy to use you up and
discarge your your empty husk to the side, and then
you know, yeah, it's it's it's gross, and I'm glad. Personally,
I'm kind of glad. I'm not really involved in it
except for these side gigs. I'm always happy to cash
and check right right. But at the end of the day,
after speaking to you about what you guys went through
versus what we went through and all this other stuff,

(07:37):
I'm just so happy to see that you're out there
kind of doing your own thing, you know, because you
know obviously the LA stuff. You know, the production companies
that do that for a living, they're really polished and everything.
And I sat down last night and I watched one
of your sons of Appalasha and Melissa and I. By
the way, Melissa sends her love she adores you as well.

Speaker 3 (07:55):
You make sure I tell her.

Speaker 2 (07:56):
I said, hello, absolutely, Well, yeah, we watched We watched
it last night and we laughed and it was just great.
It was I just loved it. This maybe not as polished,
but you know what, you guys, when did you start
this thing? Because it's as we record this it's October
twenty third, So when did you actually start this YouTube endeavor?

Speaker 3 (08:15):
So we started it's either late July or early August
is when we first started. And you know, whenever we
used on Mountain Monsters. Of course, you know, we had
you know, the whole crew come from Hollywood and and
you know, from over the country and and there was
this big production team and all this. But we started out,

(08:35):
you know, this show late July early August with not
even a real camera. It was a thirty five millimeter
camera that records. And God bless our fans, you know,
creepy people management eat Lee and Jeff and Jennifer, very
very intelligent people, and uh they put something out there,

(08:57):
and the fans really supported us and donated, gave us
some donations and and you know, to get us up
and running and and the fans have put us back,
uh in the position we're at now to where you can,
you know, you can see the progression from the first
episode to the last episode so far of audio and filming.

(09:18):
You know, we've got a camera. Now, we've got you know,
we've got we're starting to get the things we need
and and that's that's because the fans you know, and
that's that's been such a blessing in itself. And it's
nice having just a very small crew. It's just you know,
it's just us out in the woods doing what we
love to do. You know.

Speaker 2 (09:37):
Wow, So really two and a half months?

Speaker 3 (09:40):
Yeah, So, so we've been at it for two and
a half a little over two and a half months,
I think, or you know, right around there, and we've
put out a handful of episodes and we're doing side content,
which which is a lot of fun. You know, We're
we're getting the fans are getting to see like the
behind the scenes kind of thing of you know, what

(10:00):
we do and like, you know, just have fun. And
I actually started a TikTok and and doing some behind
the scenes goofy stuff that we do on with tiktalk
and on our you know, sons of appleatche Tech Talk.
So they're getting to see like the side of us
that was always sheltered that that you know, if you know,
if we was too funny, it wasn't allowed to be

(10:21):
on TV, you know what I mean. But but yeah, anyway,
I apologize, I'm all over the place, But in two
and a half months, we're we're almost ninety three thousand
subscribers on YouTube, and uh, we're really really hoping to
hit one hundred thousand, like that's that's that's that's that's
all of our goal was to hit that hundred thousand
mark on YouTube because once we hit it, then we'll

(10:43):
get a YouTube black and that's something that's kind of
like all of us are like, you know, it's like
a trophy, you know that that we're all dying to get.

Speaker 2 (10:52):
You know, well, I think you're going to get there
for sure. I mean yeah, because two and a half months.
I'm super impressed, you know so, I'm just so happy
for you. And I just up the Sons of Appalasha
a YouTube page, which is where you can get all
this sort of stuff. I'm going to hit that subscribe
button right now. Actually, boom just got another one and
I'm looking at these videos. The first one three hundred

(11:12):
and forty eight thousand views in three months, the second
highest is three hundred and twenty one thousand views, and
then two fifty two. This is insane, man, Your your
fan base is astonishing.

Speaker 3 (11:27):
And again, Cliff, you know I will and I know
you know not everybody's a religious person. I am. I
give God to glory because this has been an opportunity.
I never thought i'd see you know, when Mountain Monsters
was over, that was it, and I was content with that.
I mean, me and you've talked. I've got a life,
and I've got a job, and I work for a living,

(11:49):
and so you know, I always knew that, you know,
that wasn't going to last forever. But this is almost
like a second chance. And the fact that we've been
given a second chances is all due to the fans
that we do love so much. Our fans are just
you know, they're phenomenal, you know, and I love every
one of them. And that's why you see us, you know,

(12:11):
we spend time with them and talk with them and
show and try to show them the same love they
show us, because without them, I mean, we're still, you know,
just a bunch of hillbillies from Mahalla in West Virginia.

Speaker 2 (12:24):
Well that's one of the things that I think sets
you all of you guys, aside from a lot of
not a lot, but a small number of other quote
unquote celebrity sort of folks. Right, we both do a
lot of these appearances. You know, you sit at a
table all day long and you talk to people, and
people talk at you and whatever else, and you know,
it's a it's a grueling, get fun, great way to
make a living, and it's neat. Then some people like

(12:47):
you're there on time, You're there all day long, you
talk to every single person. How many times a day
do you sing Happy Birthday? For God's sake? You guys
just love your fans so much. And in some of
these other gigs, especially multi day gig, you know, like
a cryptid Con, we're both going to be a Crypted
Con at the end of November. It's a couple of
days out there together. But some I've seen some people

(13:09):
who you know, who show up like for half of
one day and they don't even like stick it out
for their fans. And that's something that you and I
and I know I've talked to Bill and Huck about
this as well, is that the only reason we're in
the position that we are is because of our fans,
and every one of them, if they want to wait
in line or come say hi, they all deserve the attention.

(13:32):
And it's just so neat to see not only just
you personally, but all the guys out there at the table,
shaking hands and smiling and stuff. Because when I look
around and I see empty tables because that person showed up,
signed autographs for an hour and a half and left,
I'm thinking, where's your gratitude?

Speaker 3 (13:47):
Right? I agree? I agree a million percent. And you know,
and I can't say enough about our fans. And that's
one thing that you know, we talked about from the
very get go as being humble and and understanding where
you come from and and how how we got there.
You know, when we first started Mountain Monsters back in

(14:09):
uh twenty thirteen, I think, or is way back when
you know, we said we did that show and it's like, man,
ain't nobody ever want to watch? This is crazy? And
then man, it's like it's just like people came out
of the woodwork and started watching it, and it's just
like it's it's so surreal, you know, and it's very

(14:29):
humbling to sit back at a table at any event
to this day. It's humbling when you you, you know,
you sit down there and people want to want your autograph,
and you look and there's a lot of people just
happy and content to wait in line to see you
and talk to you. You know, it's it's it's truly
a blessing.

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Speaker 3 (16:45):
Yeah, you know.

Speaker 2 (16:46):
One of the things that another thing that has impressed
me about your entire group, you know, but I want
to hear you your story directly from you here, is
that despite the ridiculous air antics shall we call them,
every single one of you but one has actually seen

(17:07):
a sasquatch. And I think it's Hook that's seen him twice. Yes, no, no, no,
you you found footprints. That's what it was, you didn't
put your eyes on, but you found footprints? Is that
right now?

Speaker 3 (17:18):
Since then? Since then I did get lay eyes on one.

Speaker 2 (17:21):
No kidding, I didn't hear this.

Speaker 3 (17:23):
Well, that's because I haven't got to see yet. Here.
Here's what's been really nice with this with this YouTube
is now now we're going where we want to go
and when we want to go, and we're doing the
things we want to do. And I was fortunate enough
to take this crew. Now we haven't filmed it yet.

(17:44):
We haven't, we haven't filmed up there yet, but we're
going to. I was fortunate enough to take these guys
to where I had my first big foot encounter, which
I you know, I was, I was, you know, a
kid whenever I found those tracks. And I'll be taking
them to the second place where I recently had a

(18:07):
big foot encounter where I actually got to lay eyes
on one. So the big thing is right now with YouTube,
the big thing that we're kind of running into is
you know, it doesn't take you know, you know how
it is whenever you you know, whenever you're filming, you know,
with production and all that, it takes months before whatever

(18:27):
you film comes out. What we're filming is coming out,
you know, sometimes within days of us of it being filmed.
And what we're running into with with you know, a
couple of a couple of different people is as quick
as it's coming out there. You've got people that's concerned
about people being on their property and and things like that.

(18:50):
But the gentleman whose property I was on, I've been
closed with for years, and I've been actually kind of
investigating that place for on my own for about six
months and and so far, I think he's going to
I think he's going to open up and allow you know,

(19:12):
my whole crew to come in there and do things
legit and try to get in there and see what
kind of activity that we can get on camera.

Speaker 2 (19:19):
Now, are you able to share the encounter with this,
like when you when you actually saw one, or do
we have to wait because it's going to be a
thing on the YouTube channel?

Speaker 3 (19:26):
No? No, then now I can share my personal encounter because
of you know, obviously we wasn't filming, so this was
before we started. This was in it was June, it
was later into June'm thinking it was the twenty eighth
or the twenty ninth. I had got a call from

(19:47):
this guy, and he told me he's a farmer here
where I live in West Virginia, and he knows that
I'm very interested in this stuff. Me and Huck both
live very close together. And he called me just because
I know him and you know, he's a little closer
to my my age, and told me that he had
heard what sounded like tree knocks. And I said, okay, well,
you know, when I get a little bit of time,
I'll come over there and I'll poke around and see,

(20:09):
you know, and just check things out. Cliff. I spent
weeks walking that property, just just you know, when I
had time, checking things out, trying tree knocks once in
a while, you know, not not overdoing it by no means,
trying to just you know, ease into it and see

(20:30):
what I could find. I know, I never did get
a response on the tree knocks. However, it was right
before dark. I got off work, and I had i'd
run home and I'd changed my clothes, and I thought,
I'm into the woods, and I went out, and uh,
of course his it was I'd say the sun was

(20:54):
starting to set. It was, you know, it was getting
late in the evening. But I'd taken I'd taken binoculars
and I was just kind of and that's one thing
I'll do is I'll sit up high on a ridge,
and this place has been clearcut, I'll sit up high
on a ridge and just kind of scope things from
a distance, because you know, I feel like there's more success,
you know, just spotting like that. And it was getting
close to dark, so as I was just sitting up there,

(21:18):
I caught movement. It was probably I don't know, it
was a couple of hundred yards away, and I pulled
the binoculars up and it would end up being a deer,
and I, you know, get a lot of that. But
right right before it got dark, about seventy five yards
right straight down over the hill from me, right behind

(21:43):
the brush, I just seen something dark moving and I
got the binoculars up and I was just holding super
still and I just it. I seen its hand, cliff
is all I could see, and I knew what it
was when I see the hand. It reached up and
it grabbed a limb. It was trying to like it's
just I don't know why, but it just grabbed like

(22:05):
a not a limb, but like a sapling. Does that
make sense. Sure, it reached up like it was it
grabbed a sapling and that's that's all I could see through.
It was really thick, but I could see that hand.
And when I seen the hand, I was like, that's
that's that's it. That's it. And I could be wrong,
you know, I could be wrong, but but it was

(22:26):
it was. I swear that was it.

Speaker 2 (22:28):
So that did the hand just hold on to the
tree or did it move something aside or what did
it do?

Speaker 3 (22:33):
And it had a hold of it for probably just
a couple of seconds and then it just it kind
of moved just a little bit and let go, and
then it went back down and I sat and I
watched that like it was really it's super thick. If
you've ever been in like clear cut after it's starting
to grow up, it's super thick. And it was like
it's a you know, you know these young growth trees,

(22:54):
but so they're not very bigger round. But it just
reached up and grabbed and it just held onto it for
just a couple of seconds and then it kind of
moved it just a little bit and let go, and
then it went back like its hand dropped. But I
couldn't see through that thickness to see what it was.
So I just sat there until I couldn't see the more.

(23:14):
I mean, I didn't have I had most of my binoculars.
I had a flashlight, but I wasn't seeing that far
away with a flashlight. So I sat there until it
was pitch black, and then I just eased them back out.
But since then, I've been out a few times. I've
not I've not been able to really get a whole
lot of activity. But but we're going We're going to

(23:36):
go in there as a team and see if see
if see if we can't find some some tracks or
see if you know, see if we can't get a response,
We're gonna We're gonna get a try.

Speaker 2 (23:45):
That's great. And you know, if I'm if I'm understanding
your description, So you saw something come up and actually
grab onto a tree like with fingers, like wrapping it around,
and say, well, what else could it be?

Speaker 3 (23:55):
That? And that's how that's the reason I'm so convinced,
you know what I mean, it's because what else could
it had been? And it you know, it's not like
it was you know, six inches off the ground or
you know, a foot off the ground. I mean you're
talking it was, you know, five foot off the ground.
That's very cool, very good.

Speaker 2 (24:11):
Now, now take us back a little bit and and
tell us about that finding that footprint. Just in case
anybody hasn't heard this story. I don't know if you
ever went over it on the show or not, but
I I remember your turkey hunting or something you found
the footprint.

Speaker 3 (24:23):
Yes, yes, so me and my dad was turkey hunting
and I was I was I'm thinking I was like
nine ten years old. Of course that's been one hundred
years ago, it seems like. But but me and my
dad was turkey hunting, and it was all the way
down his holler and where we was at it's very steep,
I mean straight up and down. And you know, this

(24:45):
bird we was talking to it, it was goblin. We
was trying to call him in and all of a sudden,
you know, and it's not uncommon for you know, whenever
you're calling trying to call on a turkey. That they stopped,
they stopped gobbling, they shut up, and it kind of
shut up. But when it did, what I could hear
was it sounded like you had two rocks clapping them together,

(25:09):
which was straight down over the hill from me down
in a creek bed. But it's a steep you can't
see down there. I was on a flat. You can't
see down there. And you know, if any other turkey
hunters here, they know you, like you don't move whenever
you're a turkey hunting like that's a you know, they've
got eyes like an eagle. They can see them all away.
But I sit there and I listen to this clapping

(25:30):
of the rocks like it's in sequence, like boom, boom, boom,
and it goes on like it and then it just stops.
Then you know, thirty seconds to a minute later, boom, boom, boom,
it happens again. And this goes on for you know
a little bit. And then finally my dad, you know,

(25:51):
it stopped and my dad come, you know, slipping up
to me, and he said, it's on that bird. Shut up.
He said, you read to get out of here. And
I said, Dad, did you did you hear that? Hey
said yeah, he said I heard it. And I said
it sound like two rocks, you know, cracking together. He said,
as probably a bear. But he said, well let's go
ahead and get out of here. So well, Pap, I'm

(26:11):
just gonna stay here for a little bit. And he
went ahead and left, and I waited for him to
get out of sight, and he no more got out
of sight, and I started working down towards the crick
And as soon as I got down in the creek,
I started looking around. I could see a couple of
rocks flipped over. But that's where I found my first track.

Speaker 2 (26:29):
And how big was there? What he describe it for us?

Speaker 3 (26:31):
So the track was about seventeen eighteen inches long the course.
I was a kid. I didn't have a tape measure
or anything with me. That's strictly guessing it was wide.
It was. It was kind of heavy in the front end,
but there was only one track. It was very dry,
but it was like a sandy bottom right there where
it was at. But I'm gonna say it was probably seven,

(26:56):
you know, seven eight inches wide. I'm looking at my
hand right now to try to get a get seven
eight inches wide. But but that that was that's whenever
I was like, well that what what is that? You
know what I mean? And I looked and and you know,
I knew it wasn't a bear track, and it was
it was long, but I knew immediately it wasn't a
bear track, and uh, of course I said something to

(27:19):
my dad about it, and Dad that was that wasn't
you know. He just thought I was exaggerating things as
a kid, you know, But that that's what got me interested,
That's what that's really what got me started.

Speaker 2 (27:33):
Set the hook and probably changed the course of your
life to some degree.

Speaker 3 (27:36):
Yes, yes, absolutely it did. And you know, and I've known.
I've known Huckleberry my entire life since I was a kid,
and uh, you know, as I got older. That's that's
kind of how me and him got as close as
what we was is because down the road me and
him and next sharing our experiences with each other, and
then you know, it was just a you know, best friend,

(27:58):
best friends ever since of course we again, you know,
I've known him since I was a child.

Speaker 2 (28:05):
Was he ever a child?

Speaker 3 (28:06):
No, I you know, I think he came out of
the womb with a beard pretty sure when he was born.
He had an amazing beard, and he was six foot
tall and had a chew at tobacco.

Speaker 2 (28:16):
And that's great, that's great, Yeah, because Huckleberry has seen
these things twice, I guess do you happen to know
I think it's Hucked that saw him twice, if I remember,
do you happen to know if if I am correct,
if either of his sightings were anywhere near where you
found that footprint, or perhaps where you saw one recently.

Speaker 3 (28:35):
So it was not near where I found the footprint, however,
it was near where I had the recent sighting. Yes,
so where we live at our county, I think our
population is five thousand, and you're talking about a county
that's I mean, it's very very large. I mean you
just have to look at it on the map for
West Virginia. But but no, my recent encounter, there was

(28:58):
a temper company that had cut a US A what's
called HF F four Tartlin Forest Group had clear cut
some some land and a lot of your a lot
of They opened up to buy some of that land
here a few years back to hunting clubs and to
personal people. But uh, the uh, the guy that bought
that property, that's where I was at. And as the

(29:21):
way it crow flies, it's only a couple of miles
from where Huck had his hiding.

Speaker 2 (29:25):
That is real close. It's a handful of miles. Of course,
West Virginia is a pretty rough terrain as well. I
got to say, I love I love West Virginia. It
is so so cool and so rugged still for an
Eastern state, because so many of the Eastern states have,
you know, kind of largely been paved, you know, Delaware,
I'm looking at you, for example, And West Virginia has
resisted that. And I suppose it has a lot to

(29:47):
do with the terrain, but I'd like to think that
it has something new with the people as well.

Speaker 3 (29:50):
I think that I think it does. I think it
has a lot to do with the people. But but
you know, and at the same token, it's a it's
a it's a it's a blessing and a cursing that
that West Virginia has almost been forgot and in time,
and I apologize. You may hear my dogs barking in
the background, but but West Virginia has almost been forgotten
in time. I think we are either like the number
two or the number three most wooded state in the country.

(30:14):
You know, we would we're we don't. We may not
have big fancy things, but we sure do. We sure do. Uh,
we sure are proud of our state. But but yeah,
it's it's uh, it's not been overtaken by by big
companies and corporations and and hasn't been leveled.

Speaker 2 (30:34):
Stay tuned for more Bigfoot and Beyond with Cliff and
Bogo will be right back after these messages. Yeah, I've
often thought that, you know, like if the sheriff ever
runs me out of town around here, like where the
heck would I go? That'd probably end up either in
New Mexico or out in West Virginia somewhere.

Speaker 3 (30:55):
You know. Well, that's kind of the way I feel.
If the sheriff ever runs me out of here, then
I'm heading a Kentucky. They don't because because the very
eastern side of Kentucky is just the same as West Virginia.

Speaker 2 (31:07):
Yeah, exactly. No, I've I've hung out a lot with Bill,
you know, of course, at these conferences and stuff, and
it's always good to see him, and I always know
it's him, like he usually sneaks up behind me and
hugs the crap out of me, and our hurts. The
man has love that hurts. But he's told me his
origin story, so to speak, you know, how he was
kind of approached to be on the show, and how
they kind of singled him out and then he tried

(31:29):
to convince it's like, you don't want me, I'm obnoxious,
and they'd been basically they said, no, that's exactly who
he want. How did they find you? How did they
find you? Like? Like, what what made you stand out
against the background of probably other likable characters that they
had lined up?

Speaker 3 (31:45):
Honestly, honestly, I don't I don't know how this. I mean,
I can tell you how how I got involved, but
I can't tell you how it, like how they decided
on me, of all people, because it blew my mind
just as much as anybody else, probably more so. A
friend of mine had messaged me and uh and told me, Hey,

(32:07):
these guys are coming in and they're looking for rednecks
that are into this sort of thing. And he said,
and I immediately thought of you, And Uh, I knew
I was going to see Joe. I knew I knew
I was going to see Joe up there and or Huckleberry.
I'm sorry. And went up there and they talked to us,
and you know, they basically they was like, you know,
we really like you, we'd like for you to join.

(32:30):
And I was just, you know, it was all new
to me, and I was just kept waiting for them
to be like, for the price of this, we'll put
you on TV. You know. It just that never happened.
You know, it was very surreal. One of her Mountain
monsters dropped on TV. I was looking. I was like,
I didn't think this would ever happen, Like this is
really happening, But it was. Honestly, it was as simple

(32:53):
as as somebody getting a hold of me saying, hey,
these guys are coming in. They're looking for rednecks that
are into this sort of thing. So immediately thought of you.
So I went up there and met him, and they're like, hey,
we like you. Okay.

Speaker 2 (33:05):
I was like, okay, Now, how central of the role
did Trapper play in any of this?

Speaker 3 (33:10):
Trapper was he had already been in contact with these guys,
And I didn't know that Trapper Trapper And of course
there's a lot of stuff Trapper didn't even cue me
in on, but Trapper he was already in contact with
Colt's brother Duke, and uh, and it's funny. He thought

(33:35):
Duke was going to be the one, you know, producing
and shooting the show. And it was so funny whenever
it all came down after they've done this as are
real and all that. Colt come out and uh and
introduced himself and you know, he's the one that's gonna
be producing the show. And Trapper looked straight at him
and he said, I don't like you. Where's your brother?

Speaker 2 (33:58):
That's great?

Speaker 3 (34:00):
Like, whoa dude, It's like, you're you really ain't you're
you really ain't bassful.

Speaker 2 (34:05):
Well, you got to be like that with these some
of these people in La especially, you know, because and
they're not used to people talking back to them or
or like putting things in their face and whatever else.
And we did that a lot on finding Bigfoot. They
didn't know what to do with us, of course, And
I can only imagine faced off with with a bunch
of ne'er do wells like the Mountain Monster, what are
they going to do in return? You know, they can't
say anything.

Speaker 3 (34:26):
Yeah, it was it was definitely. It was definitely interesting
the pushback and and you know, I think it cost
us a lot of time in the woods sometimes, but
but the pushback was always entertaining.

Speaker 2 (34:39):
Oh, I can only imagine what the outtakes of that
show must be.

Speaker 3 (34:42):
Like, Oh, I'd love I'd love for them to come
out with a blooper reel. People see you on TV
me falling a lot on that show, but if they
did a blooper reel, they would see a lot more.

Speaker 2 (34:54):
That's funny because every time Bobo fell, it made the camera,
you know, it totally made the screen, you know, because
he hated it so much and we all thought it
was hilarious.

Speaker 3 (35:03):
But I will say with YouTube, it it's definitely been.
It's definitely been a world different experience that I am
truly enjoying. You know. It's it's we're getting to be ourselves.
You know, we're getting to be ourselves now and and uh,
we get to say things we want to say and
do things we want to do, and and and it's

(35:25):
just it's it's it's been nice. It's been you know,
without having to have a network's approval and you know,
got to watch this, can't do this. Oh, it's it's
let's go out and do our thing.

Speaker 2 (35:38):
Well, you know, you just said that you finally get
to do the things you want to do. And I'm
looking at your your your video list right here on
your on your YouTube. So you just said, we get
to do things we want to do. And the first
thing might put my eyes on is we ate bugs?

Speaker 3 (35:52):
Now?

Speaker 2 (35:52):
Wait a second, it says right here, you ate bugs
two months ago, forty five thousand views.

Speaker 3 (35:58):
Things we want to do and things that that that
the fans want us to do, so obviously we want
our fans to feel involved. So with that, our fans
have sent us so many different things for it started
out as just like a gag whenever we've you know,

(36:21):
we first got together and it was it was I
got these guys Mothman potato chips, and I was like,
let's let's get these Mothman potato chips. And Jennifer was like, hey,
let's do a food review on it, and and I
was like, okay. Next thing, I know, we've got people
just absolutely pouring in trying to uh, just sending us

(36:43):
stuff like crazy, and they it's like, all right, well
we're going to do with them.

Speaker 2 (36:51):
Yeah. You know, as long as it's fun. There's nothing
wrong with a little you know, clap monkey clap sort
of stuff, as long as it's fun and everybody's on
board with it, and everything's no one's forcing you to
do this, and you just say bugs, all right, let's go,
or we ate weird candy. As there's another one gross
jelly Bean reviews. One of the first things I heard
about your channel, one of the very first things, like, Oh,

(37:11):
you guys are gonna branch up and do your thing.
This is great, fantastic. I'm so happy for you guys.
And then like a few weeks goes by, and and
somehow or another, it comes to my ears that Wild
builded a cooking show.

Speaker 3 (37:23):
He did a cooking segment that which was entertaining. Uh,
but yeah, we're we're good to have fun, you know
what I mean, Like, you know, outside of getting into
woods and and and you know, doing our thing in
the woods, we're getting we're getting to have fun and
and and it's entertaining and and and you know, we're
really really just having a good time with all of it. Yeah.

Speaker 2 (37:47):
And like I said, Melissa, and I watched one of
these last night with a witch pointing to the woods
or something, and then weird like rocks you find on
the ground. And then like I was just giggling because
I know all you guys, and it's so funny to
me this see you guys out there doing this and
having fun with this. Whole time, I'm like giggling to
myself and I've commented to Melissa, this is like a
live action Scooby Doo with better, better, better characters.

Speaker 3 (38:11):
You know. Well, I'll take that as a compliment.

Speaker 2 (38:16):
It absolutely is, absolutely is man. I love I loved it.
I loved it. It was just so silly and goofy
and I just absolutely loved it.

Speaker 3 (38:24):
Well, I appreciate it.

Speaker 2 (38:26):
So so along the lines, So, I know, wild built
a cooking segment, which is ridiculous. You guys had the taste,
and of course you also have these long stories, you know,
like they're like like a whole season's worth of stuff,
you know, and that's it. It's been out for two
and a half months. This is you have so much
content already. Are there any dream situations, you know, like

(38:46):
like a cooking show or you know, these tastes. Is
there anything else that you're hoping to be able to
do that to put either yourself in that situation or
wild Bill and Huck.

Speaker 3 (38:58):
So, I've been a lot of ideas. We've been pitching
a lot of ideas back and forth with each other
on things we want to do. And there is a
few different things we want to do. And you know,
that's just like you know, early, early, this month, you know,
we put out a video because we have a we
have a merchandise shop, you know, online merchandise for for

(39:20):
t shirts and things like that. One of the things
that was very near and dear to my heart and
several others was we wanted to bring awareness, you know,
breast cancer Awareness month. So we was able to you know,
we had a bunch of shirts made to where you
can go on our on our merchandise page and buy
a pink shirt and one of the proceeds from our

(39:43):
shirts is going to breast cancer research. So and then
then then another thing that that we're doing, you know
that that that that you know is very exciting, is
we are about to start rolling out where you know,
it's still in the working process too, is educational portions

(40:04):
like simple stuff identifying certain different trees, building a campfire,
survival situations, things like that. Things were very familiar with
that we take advantage that. We we take advantage of
thinking that other people would know how to do that
people don't. So we're wanting to do do you know,
content like that to help educate people and survival situations

(40:29):
and and identifying you know, food sources in the woods
and things like that as well. So and that's what's
nice with the freedom of of the YouTube that we've
been doing is getting to have a say and doing
this stuff like this, you know, and still wanting to
you know, doing side content for fun as far as

(40:50):
like you know, shooting competitions and and and you know,
silly stuff like that. But but the ultimate you know,
push and goal is to keep getting to do what
we want to do and hopefully educate people in the process.

Speaker 2 (41:06):
I think that's fantastic because you guys have such a
wonderful personality and so much charisma between all of you,
and it's so fun and goofy. Sometimes it's just fun, right,
That's the whole point is it's fun. But at the
same time, you know, I mean you may have noticed,
like wild Bill was a marine, right, yeah, I mean,
I know it's hard to tell sometimes, but despite everything

(41:28):
he wears and everything he says all day long from
the moment he waits up at four am. But Huckleberry
was a marine too, and you were involved like Tangentia
and law enforcements. You guys have a lot of serious
skill sets behind all you guys, and it's neat to
see that other side of you come out as well,
because usually it's the opposite. Usually somebody is so serious
on TV and then you find out they're kind of
goofy in real life and they have a great sense

(41:49):
of humor. Your sense of humor and your playfulness and
joy in life is center stage and everything you guys do.
So in a way, it's kind of nice to see
the opposite emerge.

Speaker 3 (42:00):
Well, I appreciate that. And you know, and both of
them were in the Marine Corps and and you know,
Huck has you know, he was an operator for several years,
you know, which is which can be very dangerous in
the in what he was doing. And Bill was alignment
for years, which is another danger of profession. I worked
corrections for sixteen seventeen years and now I'm a pro officer.

(42:24):
So now I'm you know, sworn in law enforcement, you know,
and I get to do the fun stuff, you know,
drug raids and working you know, sometimes getting to work
with with other law enforcement agencies as far as you know,
FBI and Task Force and different people, you know, helping
getting drugs off the street and and you know, try
and the main thing is is getting to help people

(42:45):
that need help with with situations like that with you know,
when they have unfortunately have drug issues and getting them,
you know, rehabilitated and trying to do things like that.
But it's nice to be able to basically be two
different people at the same time. You know. I take
my job very serious, and those guys you know, also

(43:06):
do the same, but we also like to have fun
and get in the woods and be kids again.

Speaker 2 (43:12):
Yeah, I think that side of you and the side
of all of you guys is like underappreciated perhaps, you know,
because it is is again such an over the top
showing you and all your personalities are just so just
like I said, over the top, you're the calmest among
them sometimes you know, in your nuts too. So to
see that that you guys are like into like I've
got serious responsibilities in my life and and there's other

(43:34):
things I do. I think that's really cool for the
audience to get the sea you know.

Speaker 3 (43:38):
Yeah, and and and it is. It's definitely uh, it's
definitely enjoyable. I definitely enjoy it. Definitely enjoy it.

Speaker 2 (43:45):
Fantastic. Stay tuned for more Bigfoot and Beyond with Cliff
and Bobo. Will be right back after these messages, so
the dream situations or these survival things or whatever. But
you know, there's got to be a piece of you,
at least as sick and you know what I want.

(44:06):
I want to see wild Bill in a dress or
something like that.

Speaker 3 (44:09):
There's got to be.

Speaker 2 (44:09):
Something like evil part of you that is like going,
you know, how can I get how can I make
this magical thing happen?

Speaker 3 (44:15):
Right? What is that like?

Speaker 2 (44:15):
What do you want to what do you want to see?

Speaker 3 (44:17):
Huck? Do you know?

Speaker 2 (44:19):
Because they're gonna do the same to you at some point?
You know that exactly.

Speaker 3 (44:22):
You know, I tried to convince Huck, you know, if
we had one hundred thousand subscribers, you need let's do
a thing where if we had one hundred thousand, you'll
shave your beard. Couldn't talk him into it. At some point,
I'm going to talk that man into it.

Speaker 2 (44:37):
I could see that I could see one hundred thousand
subscribers you and you and the Huck both like narrow
your entire head to make it look like bills.

Speaker 3 (44:46):
That would be amazing. But you know, you know, ultimately
moving forward, you know, the goal is is to keep
getting to do what we you know, what we enjoy
doing and you know, in definitely definitely, uh look forward
to getting to spend more time focusing on investigations that

(45:08):
we want to do and you know, legit investigations and
legit sightings, you know what I mean.

Speaker 2 (45:16):
Mm hmmm, So a lot of fun and a lot
of legit stuff. Because you guys live in some of
the best sasquatch habitat in the in the country, you
guys definitely should be taking advantage of.

Speaker 3 (45:25):
That, absolutely, and and and that's and that's the goal.

Speaker 2 (45:28):
So being on the road, you know, from my experience,
like with the Finding Bigfoot thing, we're we're shooting you know,
six days a week. Basically we're working eight to eighteen
hours a day, I mean during the height of the show,
and we're busy at as on the road seven eight
months a year. It was it was crazy, It was
absolutely crazy. And I'm assuming it was something kind of
similar to that with Mountain Monsters. So I'm curious about

(45:50):
what it was like with Mountain Monsters and how that
has changed now that you've gone to the YouTube format,
Like how often do you shoot and that sort of thing.

Speaker 3 (45:58):
So with with with Mountain Monsters, we was filming, you know,
five days at least five days a week, sometimes more,
and you you know, you was looking at you know,
anywhere twelve sixteen hour days. What a lot of people
didn't realize is is I was working a full time
job in corrections, and I'd get off work and I'd

(46:22):
go work all night and then I'd sleep for maybe
two hours, three at best, and then I'd go back
to work at my regular job, just back and forth.
It was. It was exhausting. I would literally go I
think I went ninety ninety some days without a day off,
without one single day off, and working and working at

(46:46):
a minimum of you know, a ten to twelve hours
shift at my job, and then working you know another
you know, at least six on you know, filming. So
it was it was very exhausting. Now with you with
with what we're doing with YouTube, is you know, and
now thankfully I've got a camera that I can shoot

(47:08):
some stuff myself, you know, just whenever I'm outdoing things
or you know me houcking bill that I can film
and then these guys come in and you know, we'll
spend you know, handful of days, three four days, and
we can you know, knock out a lot of content
in just a few days.

Speaker 2 (47:27):
Now on the show, on the Main Mountain Monster Show.
I guess you guys were putting in a lot of
kind of awkward positions. I think, like I had to
do some weird stuff and I haven't seen that yet. Well,
I mean, I've seen the taste tests of like you know,
bug jelly beans and stuff, but like not the physically
demanding stuff. I remember towards the end of the season,
I think a Jeff was complaining about some sort of
zip line or some horrible dangerous situation he was put

(47:50):
in and blah blah blah. Right, but you guys had
to do that kind of stuff too. What's one of
the craziest things that the production company expected you to do?
You can you remember anything off the top of your
head for either you or one of your cast member
friends there.

Speaker 3 (48:05):
For honestly, for me specifically, it was it was the
amount of hours I was putting in working at my
full time job and then working there, Because I'm telling you, Cliff,
it was. It was. It was brutal, and I can
assure you I couldn't do it again. I'm too old now.
There's no way I could do that again. Aside from that,

(48:27):
you know, we did it. We did an investigation or
whatever or where we was had a water trap and
I had to go in the water and bait the trap.
A lot of people didn't realize that that, you know,
it was this big long tube thing that was into water.
It was February and I was in that water and
immediately the the it was so cold it took every

(48:50):
stitch of my oxygen out of me. And I was
doing my best best to keep my breath and you know,
and then there was this twenty foot long tube that
I've got to go swim all the way to the
back end of it and bait this trap and then
come back out. So I look from one end of
the tube and I can see that there's room like

(49:12):
I can, you know, about halfway, I can get my
head above water and I can breathe and I'll be okay. Well,
what I didn't account for is the amount of space
between the top of the tube and the water was
not enough space for my nose to be up out
of the water. So I took a big breath, and
I want under water and swam up in there. And

(49:33):
then whenever I knew I was good to come up
to get air. I brought my head up, but my
nose was still underwater, and I couldn't you know, obviously
I can't breathe. I almost drowned, almost drowned right there.

Speaker 2 (49:44):
Oh my gosh.

Speaker 3 (49:46):
Yeah. So I was able to get all the way
up and to get where my head was above water, thankfully,
and I was able to catch my breath and then
you know, get the shot that they wanted, and then
in order to get back out, I was a little
smarter at that point. I rolled over to my back
and stuck my nose up into the up where basically

(50:06):
I just went as far as I could until I
ran completely out of room for me to breathe out
my nose, and then took a big breath and then
swam the rest of the way out. But yeah, I
about I about drowning. That situation.

Speaker 2 (50:18):
That sounds absolutely horrible.

Speaker 3 (50:20):
It was. It was awful.

Speaker 2 (50:23):
Yeah, cut claustrophobia, and they had the whole drowning thing
on top of it. Man, he gets stuck in there.
It's like you're the the ultimate hair bowl in the
in the sink, you know, like there's no draino that's
going to get you out.

Speaker 3 (50:32):
And that's and That's what's crazy, is like, that's my
biggest fear of how I'm going to die is drowning.
And people question that because ever since I was a
little kid, I don't know if you've ever heard of noodling.
I grabbed catfish with my hands. You go up underneath
the rocks underwater and grab catfish with my hands. You
need a big catfish, and and I've been doing that

(50:53):
since I was Since I was a kid, my dad
was dragging me from rock to rock on a mat
before I could even swim, helping him get catfish. But
I do that. But my figurite biggest fear of how
I'm going to die is drowning. But the only experience
I had where I've ever been scared thinking I was
going to die and drown as far as drowning goes,

(51:16):
was that one right there. I thought I was done.

Speaker 2 (51:19):
Yeah, I can totally see why that's horrifying.

Speaker 3 (51:21):
Yeah, it was, it was. It was.

Speaker 2 (51:25):
I don't want to sound like a win, but I'm
scared to go noodling, man like because those snapper turtles.

Speaker 3 (51:30):
So I've been doing it for I'm forty years old now,
I've been doing it for about thirty thirty five years,
thirty four years right around there. And in all the
years I've been doing it, I've encountered two snapping turtles,

(51:50):
and our rivers are plumb full of them. It's just
a matter of knowing where to look. Okay.

Speaker 2 (51:56):
So it's that catfish choose different habitat.

Speaker 3 (51:59):
Yeah, the most part, for the most part. Yeah, you know,
turtles need air and and in their in their habitat
because you know, they have to be able to stick
their head up and get a breath of air. Catfish, no,
So whenever you're going underwater and there's you know, you're
under a big rock or you know, up in a
big log, there's there's no way a turtle is nesting
underneath the air.

Speaker 2 (52:20):
I see, Okay, that makes sense. That makes sense. Yeah,
because I've only seen that sort of thing on you know,
various media, so I don't know anything about it.

Speaker 3 (52:27):
Look well see, And that's what's cool with YouTube is
is Uh, it didn't get to happen this year because
we was a little late to get to it because
we didn't start until you know, like I said, till
till late July early August. But hopefully next year you'll
get to see me grabbing catfish on YouTube.

Speaker 2 (52:43):
I would love that. I would love that. Yeah, you
guys have like an open palate, just a blank palette.
This is like an open space to go running in
and you can do anything you want.

Speaker 3 (52:52):
That is so awesome. Yeah, and that's very exciting because
you know, it's deer season here in West Virginia and
I was actually going to fit, you know, sell film
a little bit of deer hunting, just you know, just
side content. Unfortunately, we got hit with a with a
disease called e HD real bad here, and we lost
a huge portion of our of our deer population in

(53:15):
our section of the state, which has been very unfortunate.
So I'm actually probably going to completely sit deer season
out just so I don't want to. We we got
to get our population back, So I'm going to, uh
gonna do my part and just sit it out and
give it a couple of years and and hope that
we can get population back and back in line.

Speaker 2 (53:37):
Is that that a wasting disease I've been hearing about.

Speaker 3 (53:40):
It's something like it. Basically they get it's like a
hemorrhaging disease in their brain. Some of them survive it
some of most of them, don't, you know the one
county that I owned property and they said that, and
this was over a month ago. They said they had
an estimated eighty percent loss of the beer population. So

(54:03):
I actually spoke with with wildlife officer and it was
job related, but I asked him on the side. I
was like, hey, listen, I said, what are you guys
going to do about deers? She's like, are you going
to cancel it? Right? And they're like, no, well no
we're not. It's too late in the game. We can't
do nothing about it now. And I was like, wow,
that's that's very unfortunate, because you'll still have idiots that

(54:25):
are out here, you know, doing what they do. And
I'm like, I find me and my family is not
going to do that.

Speaker 2 (54:31):
So is it transferable to humans if you eat the meat?

Speaker 3 (54:33):
No? No, no, it's not no. But but at least
that's what they say. But however, every deer that we've
found so far that's been affected by the disease, the
buzzards won't even eat. So if the buzzards aren't eating it,
I don't feel as though it's probably a good idea
for anybody else. To eat it.

Speaker 2 (54:53):
Yeah, yeah, I holy smokes, the buzzers won't eat it.
You should see if Bobo will eat it, and that'll
tell you something too.

Speaker 3 (54:58):
Well, there you go. But I trust Mother Nature more
than I do the word of the officials.

Speaker 2 (55:05):
Do you trust mother and nature more than you trust Bobo?

Speaker 3 (55:08):
Oh? I see, I don't know Bobo. Yeah yeah, I
don't know Bobo that well, but I trust Mother Nature more. Okay,
you know me, I know him very well. I definitely
trust Mother Nature more. Yeah, it's okay. I've only got
to meet Bobo a handful of times, but I tell
you I really had a good time with him. I
really liked him.

Speaker 2 (55:26):
God, you need to get Bobo on your Sons of
Appalasha show.

Speaker 3 (55:30):
Hey, Lessen, that'd be entertaining.

Speaker 2 (55:32):
Oh, that'd be great, that'd be great. I mean, you
may have to go to his side of the country.
He doesn't like to travel at all. But you'd think
if you all three of you guys ended up on
that side somewhere, you'd you'd love to hang out with you.

Speaker 3 (55:41):
Oh, that'd be awesome, that'd be awesome.

Speaker 2 (55:43):
I'm volunteering Bobo for jobs. He doesn't even know about it.
That's what you get fornight listening to not coming on
the show. Bobs take a day off, and I take
a day off, and I started lining the up for
an employment. There you go, stay tuned for more Bigfoot
and Beyond with and Bogo. We'll be right back after
these messages. All right, So we're looking at again. I'm

(56:11):
looking right now yet ninety two point seven thousand subscribers,
only forty seven videos in less than three months. You
guys are absolutely killing it.

Speaker 3 (56:21):
Well, I appreciate it. I appreciate it that I'm hoping
My goal is to have that have it as a
Christmas present, is to get that one hundred thousand mark.
That's that's what I'm hoping for.

Speaker 2 (56:32):
No, man, let's go for a Thanksgiving present or a
cliffs Birthday present. So yeah, yeah, like I think I
think we can get you there sooner than that. Man,
it's like, let just seven thousand plus, Yeah, we can
do this for you. I would recommend everybody who's listening
to this right now and other and to you know,
phone the neighbors with the kids, go tell them to
subscribe to this thing. It's absolutely ridiculous live action Scooby

(56:54):
Doo but instead of instead of Scooby, do you have
wild Bill? You know? So, if you guys are in
fact a live action Scooby Doo, who do you see
you as? You're not Shaggy? Obviously? Who do you think
you are?

Speaker 3 (57:06):
Fred? Oh?

Speaker 2 (57:07):
No, I'm pretty big fan of Velma Velma. There you go,
you're the Vela crew. I guess I've always thought of
you like that. I guess.

Speaker 3 (57:16):
No, I guess I'd probably be Shaggy.

Speaker 2 (57:19):
Okay, Well then well then then then who would Huck be?

Speaker 3 (57:22):
You know?

Speaker 2 (57:22):
And wild Bill?

Speaker 3 (57:23):
I mean honestly, I think Huck would be I think
Huck would be Fred, and I think Bill would be Scooby.

Speaker 2 (57:30):
I see, yeah, so huw could be Fred for his
excellent good looks, and then uh he and Bill would
be Scooby because you need subtitles, subtitles and snacks. Yeah, no,
he's I just love the man. I really do love
all these guys. And I'm so so so happy you
guys are off doing your own thing and you're having
a good time with it. And yeah, I'm just so

(57:53):
pleased for you guys. So congratulations on everything.

Speaker 3 (57:56):
I really appreciate that, Cliff, I really do, and I
appreciate the opportunity to uh, to get to do this
with you on the on this podcast. This is only
the second one I've ever done, so this is kind
of new territory for me.

Speaker 2 (58:08):
Oh dude, you're a natural. You should do these all
the time.

Speaker 3 (58:11):
Well, you know, and I've talked to you about that previously,
you know, down the road. That's kind of something I
want to try to try to do, you know. And
right now, what I'm trying to focus on right at
the moment outside of YouTube is I'm trying to get
my TikTok to grow, because you know, you can get
monetized on TikTok and do that, and I'm trying to

(58:32):
figure out a way to do that ultimately be nice
to you know, whenever I retire, you know, be able
to enjoy myself and not live from retirement because the
state retirement sucks. Oh yeah.

Speaker 2 (58:49):
And then you know, you're you're kind of like me
in a lot of ways, like kind of simple taste,
you know, like you're just kind of a regular guy
that you don't need all this extravagant stuff, and you
know you can get buy on very little.

Speaker 3 (59:02):
Yeah. Absolutely, that's I tell you, that's what's been been
hard trying to grasp the thought of that, you know,
with what I was talking about earlier with that EHD
with deers is is people don't realize, like, and you
know over in our neck of the woods, how much
we rely on that because that's that's that's our meat.

(59:23):
You know, I kill a couple deer and I don't
have to buy any hamburger or or you know, I
don't have to buy beef for you know, almost a year,
so that's that's groceries.

Speaker 2 (59:36):
Yes, that struck me when I visited West Virginia those
few times I've been there on the show or whatever.
First of all, you have more deer than I think
I've ever seen anywhere in my life outside of Prince
of Wales Island. You know that one spot in Alaska
is the only place I've seen that has more deer
than West Virginia as a whole. Right, a huge herds,
huge herds of deer, Like I was astonished, Right, And

(59:57):
then I started talking to the people there and they say, oh,
we're allowed to take like seven dos and three bucks
or I don't know what the rules were, but something
like that. Like a lot I live in Oregon. You're
allowed one buck a year. That's it.

Speaker 3 (01:00:10):
Our population have been up until this year, our population
has been astronomical. But but and it's it's crazy. It's
only the western side of our state that got hit
the way that it did. The eastern part of the
state is still perfectly falling.

Speaker 2 (01:00:26):
Oh no, kidding.

Speaker 3 (01:00:26):
Yeah.

Speaker 2 (01:00:27):
And of course so many people there, like you said,
depend on that meat to feed their family all year long.
And I was thinking, even if they did stop the
hunting season, it's West Virginia. They're not gonna let the
rules stop them. They're gonna go get food anyway. It's
just what you do, right.

Speaker 3 (01:00:41):
But but at the same token, you know, even though
that I've relied on that stuff, you know, on deer
meat for for years, it's the same token. Management is
very important. So I'm willa set her out. I'll be
buying I'll be buying Hamburger just because you can.

Speaker 2 (01:01:00):
Not everybody has that luxury, though, And then I think
that's something that people like you who can afford to,
you know, buy meat and stuff at the store. And
it sounds ridiculous to some people, but this is real,
this is America. That's that's what really goes on in
places there's a lot of families depend on what they
can kill to eat all year long. And so it's
good that some people like yourself are willing to sit out.

Speaker 3 (01:01:21):
I don't know.

Speaker 2 (01:01:21):
I guess you can go hunting with paintballs or something.

Speaker 3 (01:01:24):
Well, well, and and I'll still, you know, EHD doesn't
as that small game. You know, I'll still go out
squirrel hunting. And my nephew's big into the goose and
duck hunting now, and I think I will give that
a tribe. I've never done that before. And you know,
so it's not just about the it's not just about
the adrenaline rush and and hunting. It's it's you know,

(01:01:46):
it's also providing food. So I grew up eating squirrel
and I'll go all mess of squirrels and be happy. Yeah.

Speaker 2 (01:01:55):
Yeah, And this is a circle back around to the beginning,
my beginning rant or monologue or what want to call it.
When I thought you guys were actors, I say, hey,
you guys are just actors blah blah blah. And I
meet you guys as like not one of you is
an actor. You guys are all legit. You are the
real thing.

Speaker 3 (01:02:11):
What.

Speaker 2 (01:02:12):
You may turn it up to eleven for the camera,
but you know your your guys are cruising at four
to seven anyway.

Speaker 3 (01:02:19):
Well, and that's and that's part of the reason. Like
it was almost a realization whenever I you know, I
kind of come up with the idea of doing like
an educational side content of how to build a campfire,
how to make a quick shelter and emergency and how
to you know, because I take for granted and I
think a lot of people do that that, you know,
people know how to do that. Not everybody knows how

(01:02:40):
to do that. Not everybody, you know, not everybody's prepared,
you know, in a situation where they get lost in
the woods or or there. Even if they're stuck on
the side of the highway and stuck for hours in
the freezing cold and they run out of gas, I'm
going to build a fire. I'm going to stay warm,
you know what I mean. And uh, just just stuff
like that. Yeah, I'm I'm very happy the opportunity to

(01:03:02):
pull the trigger on this one, to start trying to
you know, just anyway we can help people. We want
to help, you know. It's it's been you know, a
blessing our fans have helped us out so much to
get us up and rolling on YouTube. We definitely want
to give back, you know. We're we're looking at trying
to do a some sort of toy drive. I know,
it's getting close to Christmas. We're gonna try to do

(01:03:23):
something to do some sort of toy drive, you know,
for kids that are in need. And it's it's it's
important to all of us to give back, you know
what I mean.

Speaker 2 (01:03:35):
Yeah, because we've all received so much from our fans
and from the opportunities that have dropped in our lap. Basically,
that's just absolutely fantastic. It speaks speaks tons about about
your guys heart and soul and uh and the way
you guys think, because I think what you're saying now
is reflective of all your partners there too, And I

(01:03:56):
think it's just absolutely fantastic. Before we get too far
off track and kind of close this shop down here,
what are you looking forward to in a Cryptid Con
this year, because that's coming up in just a few weeks.
I'm going to be there, Matt Prutt, He's going to
be there. He's back in the background somewhere. You and
the gang are going to be there as well, so
it's gonna be a good time. What are you looking
forward to anything?

Speaker 3 (01:04:15):
I tell you, what I'm looking forward to this year
is going to be something new. Is the costplay costume contest.
I'm looking forward to that because you know, I went
we went to an event in Lexington years ago was
not Crypticon or they did like this costplay thing, And
every event that I've been to that's done that, I've
always found it really neat and interesting, the amount of

(01:04:38):
time and effort people go to to put these costumes
together and to dress up, and I just I find
it very interesting and very neat, and I'm really looking
forward to that this year. I think that's going to
be a hit. I think that's something that's going to
that's going to probably be a new tradition, so I'm
looking forward to that. I'm also looking forward to a

(01:04:59):
few new things that's want to be down there this year.
And of course I'm always looking forward to seeing you.

Speaker 2 (01:05:04):
Oh that's very kind of you, and Matt.

Speaker 3 (01:05:06):
It'll be good to see Matt again.

Speaker 2 (01:05:09):
Yeah, that's all right.

Speaker 4 (01:05:10):
Hell yeah, I just did an event with Bucking those
guys at this really cool historic theater in Bowling Green
earlier this summer in August, and that was a blast.
I think I've probably done seven or eight events with
you guys now, and it's always so much fun to
hang out with you. And like Cliff said, your fans
are so die hard, you know, supporters of you guys,

(01:05:30):
and I love seeing how much time you guys spend
with the fans, like since day one. That was my
impression too, because I could just tell it mattered so
much to so many of those people, especially the young people,
and you guys are the best about spending so much
time and making sure every one of them gets what
they're looking for from those interactions, and it's great to see.

Speaker 3 (01:05:49):
Yeah, well I appreciate that, Matt, and you know, again,
it's a blessing. That's my favorite part of going to
these meet and greets is getting to interact with the
fans and getting to hang out with them and get
to spend time talking to them and and and hearing
their story. You know, I can't tell you how many
times we've been told, you know that the life situation

(01:06:11):
that that somebody's been in that's been very difficult, and
and they talk about how, you know, uh, our our
show our or our entertainment has has helped them continue.
And it's just it's very it's very surreal, and it's
it's it's truly a blessing and it just makes us
try even harder and want more, you know, want want more,

(01:06:32):
to do better, you know, if that makes sense. So
I really enjoy getting to meet our fans. It really
is a blessing.

Speaker 2 (01:06:40):
Yeah, it's it's so funny. Like a lot of times,
if you're not careful and you get in these sort
of worlds, you know, you can think, oh, that all
these people are coming to see me, And actually we
go to these things to see them and and and
for them, for them to share stories and then tell
us about how like their lives have changed. And and
it's not because I changed their life, but it's like, oh,
I've been I've been, like I can only speak for myself,

(01:07:02):
of course, I have been blessed to have accidentally helped
other people through some of the roughest times of their life.
And you know, and sometimes like when when they come
up and tell you these sort of things, it's God,
it's hard not to get teary eyed.

Speaker 3 (01:07:15):
It's like, oh my.

Speaker 2 (01:07:15):
God, I had no idea that I did something good
for somebody. Think you thank you a person across the
table for sharing that with me.

Speaker 3 (01:07:24):
Absolutely absolutely, I know we're on the same page, and
I know I know that you share the same compassion
because you know, and I've seen you the way you
interact with with with people that come to see you
as well, and it is, it is, really, it is
such a blessing, It really is. You know, you hear

(01:07:45):
someone who is battling cancer and they want to sit
and talk with you about about you know, how you
helped them, you know, keep going, and it's just like
I didn't know I had an impact like that, and
you know, and that's just like, you know, the breast
cancer awareness, that's something I'm very proud of that we did,

(01:08:06):
you know it. We may not raise a bunch of
money for breast cancer on Earth, but we're going to
try because we care. You know, we've heard, we've heard
several stories about survivors and and people that that's help
us get through. And you know, I lost both my
grandmothers to breast cancer and and things like that that
we are allowed to do now is very near and

(01:08:27):
near to every one of us, and it is it's
it's I'm very thankful. I'm very thankful.

Speaker 2 (01:08:32):
Well, you know I can say this and I think
that I'm speaking for Bobo and Matt as well. Like
when you have something like that the toy Drive, for example,
you mentioned a little while ago. Because we're coming up
on Christmas, let us know, let us know to hear
Bigfoot and Beyond, and we will put it out to
our members. We'll put it out to our general audience
as well. We have some of the best members. Between
the museum, the NYBC, and the Bigfoot and Beyond membership,

(01:08:53):
we have some of the best people that you could
ever ask for. And of course we do have a
fairly wide reach at this point. If we can add,
you know, fifty bucks to your we will do it.
Anything we can do to help you and you and
your efforts to do gooders in the world, you can
count us in on. Even if you're not on the
episode with us, it doesn't matter. We will plug it.

(01:09:13):
We will do everything we can to help you.

Speaker 3 (01:09:15):
I really appreciate that, Cliff, I really do.

Speaker 2 (01:09:18):
Okay, So, yeah, so you can come meet Buck and
the rest of the gang there. I'm assuming Bill and
Huck are going to be there. I'm going to be there,
and Matt Prove's going to be there. We're all going
to be at cryptid Con, which is coming up on
November twenty second and twenty third. That's a few weeks
from now. You can come wish me a happy birthday.
My birthdays on the twenty eighth, and it's going to
be at the Clarion Conference Center in North Lexington, Kentucky.

(01:09:41):
So come check it out and come hang out with
us and talk to Buck, and by god, my god, subscribe.
Go to Sons of Appalasha on the YouTube right now
and then subscribe, and let's push this thing up to
one hundred thousand subscribers and then it'll probably just blossom
from there and go to two hundred thousand before you
know it. Buck, thank you, so, so, so very much

(01:10:03):
for carving out a little bit of time. We've been
trying to get you on this podcast for months and
months and months, but you're such a busy dude, man,
But thank you so much for coming on. We so
appreciate it.

Speaker 3 (01:10:13):
I really appreciate the opportunity to be on here, Cliff,
I really do it, and it was just a pleasure
to get and sit and talk with you and talk
with Matt. I really appreciate it.

Speaker 2 (01:10:21):
Well, if you ever have anything else you want to
come on and share with us, you have an open door.
So just give me a ring and we'll put you
on the air.

Speaker 3 (01:10:26):
Okay, thank you, Cliff.

Speaker 2 (01:10:28):
All right, that's it. My friends out there and Bigfoot
and beyond Land. Thank you so much for listening and
subscribing and all that sort of stuff. If you do
want to be a member, hit that link in the
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Speaker 3 (01:10:49):
I don't know. I don't listen.

Speaker 2 (01:10:50):
But the membership thing comes out on Thursday.

Speaker 3 (01:10:52):
I know that.

Speaker 2 (01:10:53):
And you get pictures and videos and all sorts of
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By bucks a month, it is worth your time. I'm
in five bucks, I promise you that. Thank you so
much again, and Bobo will be back with this next time,
I assume, unless there's another game to watch with a
bunch of kids. And until next time, Hey, Buck. At
the end, we usually say, keep it squatchy. You want
to do that in your best Bobo imitation voice.

Speaker 3 (01:11:14):
Ooh absolutely, keep it squatchy.

Speaker 2 (01:11:18):
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