June 7, 2021 • 40 mins
A Texas woman behind bars in connection with the death of 5-year-old Samuel Olson reportedly had plans to flee the state with his body. According to a motion for bail obtained by the Daily Beast, 26-year-old Theresa Balboa is accused of making plans with friends to travel to Louisiana with the child’s remains. She was captured in Jasper, Texas, at a Best Western motel before she could carry out her plans after a friend called in a tip to Crime Stoppers. Balboa is the girlfriend of Samuel’s father, Dalton Olson. Balboa was transferred back to Houston on Friday, on charges of tampering with evidence. She’ll likely face additional charges once the autopsy results are available. As CrimeOnline previously reported, Samuel was reportedly last seen May 3 in Houston, in the 8800 block of McAvoy Drive. Balboa said someone dressed up as a cop showed up with the boy’s mother and took him.
Joining Nancy Grace Today:
- Jason Campo - Chief Prosecutor, 107th District Court (Cameron County, Texas), 5 years in District Attorney's Office Family Violence Unit, Domestic Violence Task Force
- Dr. Alan Blotcky PhD - Clinical Psychologist (Birmingham) specializing in Criminal, Child Custody and Forensic cases
- Dr. Jeffrey M. Jentzen - Professor of Forensic Pathology and Director of Autopsy and Forensic Services at the University of Michigan Medical School, former Medical Examiner in Milwaukee County, Wisconsin
- Tom Ruskin - Private Investigator, President of the CMP Protective and Investigative Group, Inc., Former New York City Police Detective Investigator, cmp-group.com, @tomruskin
- Sarina Fazan - Four-time Emmy Award-Winning TV Anchor & Reporter, Sarina Fazan Media, sarinafazan.media, Podcast: "On The Record with Sarina Fazan" @sarinafazannews, YouTube: Sarina Fazan TV,
- Andy Kahan - Director of Victim Services and Advocacy at Crime Stoppers of Houston, crime-stoppers.org
- Tim Miller - Founder, Texas Equusearch
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Speaker 1 (00:07):
A five year old little boy's body found in a
tote bag in a hotel room. I'm Nancy Grace. This
is Crime Stories. Thank you for being with us here
at Fox Nation and series N eleven. How does that happen?
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A little boy's body found in a tote bag in
a hotel room. Take a listen to our friends at
kf d M Fox four. We're here at the Best
Western in Jasper, and at around six o'clock this evening,
we're told that a crime stopper's tip was called into
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the Sheriff's office and at that point that Hall was
transferred to the police department. Chief Gerald Hall says he
sent one of his officers here to the room because,
according to him, the call said something to the effect
that a missing boy was inside and a topebag. What
we understand, one of his officers went inside and immediately
backed out. We don't know if because he saw something
(01:19):
disturbing or something suspicious, but immediately the chief says that
all his officers would not go inside. They wanted to
protect this scene and not contaminate the scene. And basically
it has been sealed off from even Jasper officers. An
officer is standing guard. But other than that, this is
the most activity we've seen in the last hour, and
that is someone taking photos outside the motel room. And
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from what we'd understand, the Texas Rangers just arrived, and
that's what we're doing right now, is waiting for Houston
authorities to come and actually begin this investigation. I guarantee
that was not a photag or a journalist taking his pictures.
That was a crime scene technician and trying to get
a visual police get a tip, an anonymous tip that
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a little boy is in a tote bag in a
hotel room. They bust in and immediately stop and back
up and start backing up. Why what did they see?
What was in that room that made them all back up?
Holding the journalists and the reporters at bay. I can
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only imagine again, for those of you just joining us,
the body of a little boy found in a tote
bag in a hotel room. And you can bet your
bottom dollar we're on it, and I want answers, don't you?
Don't you For those of you that have children, or
maybe you're an aunt or an uncle, who in the
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hey would do this to a little boy? With me
an all star panel to try and sift through the
clues that have been left behind. Jason Campo, Chief Prosecutor,
Cameron County, Texas. Five years in the DA's Office of
Family Violence Union. Doctor Allan Blockkey, PhD. Clinical Psychologists out
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of Bringing It, Birmingham. Blockkey specializes in criminal cases and
child forensic cases. Doctor Jeffrey M. Jensen, Professor Forensic Pathology,
Director of Autopsy and Forensic Services, University Michigan Medical School.
Former medical examiner in Milwaukee County, Wisconsin. Tom Ruskin, private
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investigator joining us today. President of CMP Protective and an
Investigative Group. Former New York City Police detective investigator and
you can find him at cmpdashgroup dot com. Andy com
director of Victim Services Advocacy Crime Stoppers in Houston. And
Serena Fazon first out to her four time Emmy Award
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winning TV anchor and reporter. You can find a writer
podcast on the Record with Serena Fazon. Serena, this is
just so bizarre to me, A very narrow question to you.
To start it off, let me understand and anonymous tip
lad police to this hotel. Room's crazy, isn't it? Nancy?
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An anonymous tip but Art, but was it really anonymous? Understanding,
don't police have call or I D I mean, is
it really anonymous? Who would know that there is a
boy in a tote bag in a locked hotel room?
Big question? Right? And we see things on TV all
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the time. Let me go to Utahn Ruskin probably an
investigator where there's a phone call and somewhere somebody is
tracking that call and they know where it comes from.
That's just on TV. That's not real life, right, No,
that's real life. I mean most to the police lines
are tapped and taped and also have qual ID enhanced
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the quiller ID, So some of the numbers that are
calling a going to an eight hundred number which shows
the number, so would lead police potentially to that person
who is calling for the tip and then they would
respond to it. And I gotta tell you so often
I would handle felony cases with an anonymous tipster. It's
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not always anonymous, it's someone very close to the case
that wants to remain anonymous. In this case, I can
tell you why because there is a dead child involved
in a toadbag. But how did the whole thing get started?
Take a listen to our friend Steve Campion, ABC thirteen, Houston.
This little boy's grandmother is pleading for help, pleading for
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information to find Sam. You really could hear the worry
in her voice when she spoke with us less than
twelve hours after police wrapped up a search warrant that
they'd executed at the apartment complex in southeast Houston, as
they have continued their search looking for this missing boy.
She described the boy as sweet, kind, smart. She says
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Sam loves dinosaurs and toy story and that there's been
conflicting information about this case, that it's been complicated from
the get go. She says, someone knows something, and she
shared this message with us as a mom, and it's
a grandma. If you know anything, or you think your
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child is capable of this, you need to sit them
down and pray with them and make them do the
right thing. I know it's hard to have to think
that you love somebody and somebody could do something, but
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we need to know you are hearing the grandma reaching out,
begging or clues, and I find that very very interesting.
Right off the top. To Jason Campo, she prosecutor joining
us out of Cameron County, Texas. Jason, thank you for
being with us, because right there you're hearing the grandma.
She doesn't know what's happened to baby Samuel, but she's saying,
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if you think you're a child, I guess adult child
did this. Right there, that's telling me she doesn't think
this little boy just wandered away and maybe I accidentally
got into a pond. She thinks at the get go,
somebody took the child. That's very clear to me. What
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do you think that's right? She's looking for somebody to report,
somebody to tell somebody something that they know. She knows
that somebody did something to this child, and they just
need answers. You know, I'm thinking about a search want
that was filed, and I find it very very interesting.
A lot of people, Serena Fazan, think that there is
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something to farry us about a search warrant being filed
where the child went missing. It's not that's where you
start every investigation. And cops never know when they go
to the home, are they going to give us permission
to go in or do we need a warrant? So
they better have a warrant when they go. Of course,
I always assume that parents are going to give permission,
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but they went with a warrant anyway to search the home,
and they found nothing in the home, and the search
for little Samuel goes on. Is that correct? Well, absolutely empty.
And you know in order to get a search warrant,
you know that the judge in the case, you have
to find some probable cause to be able to go in. Yeah,
the fact that that's the last place that the boy
was seen and now he's missing. You're the grandmother pleading
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and pleading for answers. I'm trying to figure out in
this case. Straight out to doctor Allen Blocky, PhD, Clinical
Psychologists joining us out of Birmingham, Doctor Blockkey. When a
child goes missing last seen at the home, there are
a few alternatives. But I noticed when my children were
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just two years old, doctor Blockkey. They weren't even two
years old. They knew how to They were like monkeys.
They could unlock the lock on the handle of the
door that led into the laundry room that led to outside,
and there was a stairway going up beside that door.
Right beside it. They figured out how to go up
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two stairs and reach over and turn the dead bolt.
I had to end up putting another bolt way up
high where I had to go up the stairs too
and reach all the way up to turn it, so
they wouldn't just wander out if I turned my back.
Children are very curious and very inquisitive, and they knew
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how to get out the door. That is absolutely the truth.
Of course, there are other times when they can't get
out the door and we're left wondering what exactly happened.
This is such a confusing, almost unfathomable situation. It really
isn't go ahead, obviously said, there's so many unanswered questions.
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There's so many different possible players in this situation, and
so many unexplainable relationships in this Oh my goodness, of course,
because you've got the parents separated and there's a custody
battle going on, and that muddies the water about who
took Little Samuel. Crime stories with Nancy Grace. What we
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know is that the child is found. The child is
found after an extensive search in a hotel room, in
a toeback, obviously dead. But let me ask you this.
Serenaf is on joining us four time Emmy Award winning
reporter and anchor. We're going to tell me about the area, Well,
(11:02):
tell me about Jasper, Texas well, Jasser Texas. In fact,
why don't I know it's about two hours from Houston,
But why don't I even look up details about Jasper.
I mean, it's not a very big community. It's a
small It's a small town where people are looking out
for each other. It's not the hold dog Harry Jonas.
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If it's on, Andy Kahn wants in. Andy Kahn, director
victim Services at Crime Stoffers of Houston, tell me about Jasper. Jasper,
Texas is rural Texas. Period. It's a small town, little crime.
Everybody knows everybody there. I mean, you have you still
have the old fashioned main to main street there where
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everybody pretty much congregates. So it's quite as quintessential American
small town. Everybody knows everybody. You know, Andy Kahn, You've
handled so many cases. Andy and I've been colleagues for many,
many years. You've handled big city cases. You're right there
in Houston. You've handled rural cases, and you advocate four victims.
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And I'm very, very curious to Jason Campo as Andy
is accurately telling us about how this is a very
rule setting everybody knows everybody else. But the reality is
Jason Campo. We all also know that you think you
know somebody, you don't know them. You don't know what
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they're doing behind closed doors. You don't know what neighbor
may have been watching this child. Let's see about Delphi
for a moment. The two girls taken off the bridge
in Delphi. I think sex assaulted, will find out, but
I know murdered. And now this many months later, a
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guy turns up grabbing the neighbor girl I think she
was nine, and taking her down into a torture chamber,
raping her. And if the parents had reported her missing immediately,
should be dead. Right. Nobody knew the next door neighbor
was a child predator. Nobody knew that. So even in
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a small town, you don't know who people really are.
We see this all the time in family violence cases
when I'm doing the bordier on a trial and I asked,
you know who has experience with family violence, and people
always speak up and say, you know, we didn't know
that anything was going on until months after it had
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actually started. Because nobody really knows what's going on behind
the closed doors of somebody else's house. They know the
image that they present in public or even in private
with family members, but they don't know what's going on
once the doors of the house are closed. To doctor
Jeffrey M. Jensen, Professor Forensic Pathology, Director of Autopsy, Forensic Services,
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University Michigan Medical School, form a Medical Examiner, Milwaukee County,
I could keep on reading his resume forever, Doctor Jensen,
thank you for being with us. How much I'm glad
to be here? Yes, sir? How much does it hurt
a case? Hurt the medical examiner and trying to find
a cod cause of death? I mean, we know manner
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of death. People can get confused and autops you get
cause of death. For instance, I just shot Jackie in
Kelly to Boot. That would be cod. Manner of death
would be either accidental natural causes, murder, homicidal violence. So,
doctor Jensen, we know that this boy has been missing
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for a period of time. We now know at the
very least he's been I guess folded up into a
tote bag in a hotel room. How badly if the
room is at room temp. How badly decomposed would his
body be if he had been there, let's just say
(15:02):
a month. Well, we'll depend upon the storage of the
of the body. If the body was held in a
cool area, for example, or some other or heated area,
that a temperature would would drastically change the opinion as
to the time of death. Okay, let's go with the
room temp. Room temperature, a body would start to decay
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within a matter of forty eight two seventy two hours
and be in an advanced state of decomposition within four
to five days. Okay, speak to you know what you
just reminded me of doctor Jeffrey M. Jensen, And I
mean this in a loving and caring way, your mommy.
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Of all the times the medical examiner would see my
beat up Honda pulling it up and probably try to
hide because I would have to go through every line
the autopsy report, which can be many, many pages, to
get it in regular people talk, so I can understand it.
So when you say if a body had been in
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a tote bag for twenty nine days and with the
topebag zipped, I imagine it would have been put in
a closet or under a bed in a hotel room
at am beyond air temp. What do you mean by
advanced state of decomposition? Break it down for me. Would
the body be skeletonized. Probably not, would it be gelatinous goo.
(16:35):
Maybe I don't know. I'm an m D. You're I'm
a JD. You're the MD. What do you mean by
advanced state dcomp Advanced decomposition typically has evidence of putrification,
meaning bacterial destruction of the body tissues. There is a
purge of fluid coming from the body. There's also blackened
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discoloration throughout the body. If the body is in a
heated area, that's when you start to get mummification, and
in those cases the body would be hard and almost odorless.
Going back to the initial scene, I think the well
trained police officer that entered that scene probably detected an
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odor of decomposition in in the hotel room, maybe a
disarray of the surroundings that indicated some kind of an assault.
But knowing that he probably did need you know, legal
approval to go into that scene is one of the
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reasons why I probably backed out. The combination of an odor,
suspicion of criminal activity, and then the need to maintain
a chain of custody and legal permission entered to the scene.
You know, Andy Khan with me, Director Victim Services is
at Crime Starffers Houston. I think you have a little
(18:06):
less problem with this than I do, because sometimes it's
very hard for me to reconcile five year old little
boy with what doctor Jeffrey M. Jensen said. I remember
the district attorney he elected DA called me down to
(18:26):
his office one time, Andy and said, do you think
you're a little too emastionally involved in your cases? And
I thought a moment and said yes. He said, Okay,
that was it, that was the whole thing. And I
continued to prosecute for the next ten years. But how
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do you hear what doctor Jeffrey Jensen just said. And
you look at a picture five year old Samuel Olsen,
and I mean, think about it, Andy, when I say
he's in a tote bag, somebody had to like fold
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a little boy up, did and put him in a
tote bag. I can tell you, Nancy, all of us
that crime stoppers were absolutely heartbroken, and you could actually
see tears visibly coming out of our staff's eyes, especially
when you look at the little boy's face. At Samuel
five years old, doesn't know what's going to be happening
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to him. I mean, we've seen a lot of depravity
in our career, But to do this to a five
year old boy and just stuffing in, you know, like
he's a bag of chips, and then crush him, and
then and then just pretend that nothing's happened. This is
about as cold blooded, diabolical to parade as I've seen
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in my thirty year career as a victim advocate. You know, Andy,
I just people think that prosecutors and cops are like
hearts of stone and you don't feel anything when you
see this, or read this, or prosecute this. The reality
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is very often I had to stop myself from going
there in my mind actually thinking through what the killer
did because it's so awful. Climb stories with Nancy Grace.
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We now have the body. It's in a horrible state
of decomposition, and I think doctor Jensen was absolutely correct.
It was the smell. They opened that door, and it
was like getting hit with a brick. A brick, And
there's something about it. Once you smell a decomposing body,
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you know what it is. It's it's instinctive. Like when
you jump in the water, you know you have to
get to the top to breathe. When you smell a
dead human body, you know, what it is. Now we
have to figure out how this child ended up in
that toebag straight out to you. Tom Ruskin, private investigator,
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President CMP Protective and Investigative Group, and former NYPD investigator.
The first thing you would do to process that room
is what we know that rightly, the crime scene text
where they're taking photos immediately of the outside of the door.
What else do they need to do? Well, you noticeably
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secure the crime scene. As you said, most cops who
are seasoned officers walking down the hall will know that stench,
that smell that you never get rid of in your mind.
At that point in time, it's few officers respond posability
to secure that quor echine, to make sure that detectives
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and crime chine detectives come and start to forensically process
that room, moving towards where they know that body will exist,
and then to document everything for your purposes as a prosecutor,
to basically catalog everything, take the body out of wherever
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it's contained, and then process the body to determine if
there's any noticeable cause of death that will later be
determined by the medical examiner. Mate, this is doctor Jensen,
and justlike I just like to point out that you know,
it's important to get the medical examiner or forensic pathologists
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involved early in the case because the autopsy essentially starts
at the scene, and it's important for the forensic pathologists
to get a first hand view of the remains as
soon as possible in order to start the process of
determining the actual time of death or establishing the time
of death. You know. One other point is that I
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think disposal of the body is the last thing that
many perpetrators think about. It actually causes a lot of
creative methods of body disposal and this is just one
of those cases. Whoever that is just jump in place.
It's three Nason as you and I both now, especially
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you know with your background at this point, it is
so crucial to take every one of these steps very
slowly and carefully because we don't know. There's so many
twist and turns in this case. Oh man, there really are,
and the processing of that scene is everything. Yeah, just
take a listen to our friends at ABC thirteen Houston.
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Little Samuel Olson turns six years old today, but his
family has no idea where he is. Sam when missing
on Thursday, when he was being looked after by a
family member. His grandmother, Tanya Olsen, has full custody of Sam,
but she says Sam's mother showed up with someone else,
claiming to be a police officer and took him, though
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both parents say that he is not with either one
of them. We're not even sure who took him, how happened.
We just know that the mother showed up with a
police officer, and then we just found out the police
officer wasn't real. So tough. Sam was last seen on
mccoboy Drive in southwest Houston. Okay, take a listen to
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more what we were learning from ABC thirteen Houston. We're
talking about a five year old little boy, Samuel. Hours ago,
we found out it was a fake police officer. Sam
is missing. They're saying they do not have him. So
we would like to reach up to the public to
get Sam's picture out there. Anybody that know, anybody, anybody
who knows that they've seen Sam somewhere, somebody picked him
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up to hide him for the mother's family, Please reach out.
I mean, that's what we're wanting. We just need sample.
And he's litching two bottomed cheese and his front chooth
is loose and he was wearing a gray T shirt
with a Kool Aid man on it, some jean shorts,
some buzz light ear, tenny shoes with two mismatched superhero socks.
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Sam actually has two ears that are pierced. He has
on his right side of his head. If you pick
up his hair, it's like a golden brown. He has
a white birth spot that he's had since he was
a baby that's like this thig and it's white, but
you kind of have to lift his little curls up
to see it. So if anybody has seen him, peace,
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please please call HPD. You know, I'm hearing that immedily
thought of my little boy at this age five when
he had his teeth wobbledee and snaggle too, and that
tender tender time in them growing up. And this child
is missing. And now I'm hearing a story that a
fake police officer showed up with the bio mom. But
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Serena Fazon, isn't it true that the biomm was elsewhere?
She was nowhere near where Samuel was, right, she wasn't
even near where sam was. So this is can you
imagine how that mom is feeling after hearing the story.
So we know it's not so who was it? And
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what's this business about a fake cop? Guys? Enter, my friend,
my longtime colleague from Texas Equisearch, Tim Miller. I want
you to hear what he says to Jason Miles kho
you eleven Houston. Miller said it was difficult from the beginning,
pinning down. The last time family members saw Samuel. The
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last persons him was was with Teresa Balboa, including the
boy's father and paternal grandmother, with whom we spoke yesterday. Okay,
right there, I thought he was with his bio grandma,
But no, he's with Teresa Balboa. And it's my understanding
Teresa Balboa is daddy's girlfriend. Is that correct? Join me
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right now? Is Tim Miller from Texas Equiserchier. Let me
tell you something about Miller. Tim Miller's daughter was murdered
and he has devoted his life since that time to
helping to find missing people. Just like you might get
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up and I might go to the DA's office, or
Jackie might come to the studio. He gets up every
morning and tries to find missing people, wading through water,
riding horseback, riding in ATV, bringing out the cadaver dogs,
dogs every day, Tim Miller, thank you for being with us.
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Who thank you is Teresa bow Boa. Well, we got
called on this son's gone the friday after little Sam
apparently disappeared. We knew in the beginning there was no
truth whatsoever. Some police officer came up and took that child.
Now that Sunday night. How did you know that at
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the very beginning, Tim Miller, Well, I mean her stories
were fabricated. We knew where Sarah was the biological mother,
so we knew no mother was there with no police.
Let me understand something, Tim Miller, equal search, the grandmother
did not have Sam when he goes missing. Correct, it
was the girlfriend. It was the girlfriend, and you know
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it was crazy about that. I got dogs into my
house the night before we started the search, and I said,
what do you know about this guy Ben? And he says, well, nothing.
I said, when the last time he talked to him? Never?
I said, are you telling me you're allowing your fiance
and your five year old child to be staying with
an ex boyfriend? And he said, well, Teresa said, he's
(29:10):
a good guy. Helps her out, So you know I was, well,
wait a minute. So the six year old was with
the dad's girlfriend and her ex. With the ex, supposedly
Sam got sick. They thought he had COVID. They didn't
want him be around the grandfather. So Teresa said, I'll
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go to my ex boyfriend's house. He's a nice guy,
and so anyhow, I always left him till one twenty
in the morning at my house with the father. The
next morning we started the search and I did an
interview and Teresa was down there and I told Teresa,
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I said, Teresa, you need to do it. You need
to tell the whole world what happened, and people will
be looked at. Maybe we'll get Sam back safe, which
I knew that wasn't the case. She didn't want to
do it, didn't want to do it. So Teresa Balboa
did not want to speak publicly. No, that's finally I
literally I forced her into it. And then when she
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got done doing it, I went over to her and
I said, Teresa, every word you just said to the world,
there's nothing got to lie climb stories with Nancy Grace
(30:36):
straight out to Andy Kahn, Andy Kahan, how many days
passed before this child was reported missing? You're looking at
twenty nine days where nobody did anything about a five
year old boy that was last seen April thirtieth, and
then May twenty seventh, you decide, oh, wait, nobody's seen him.
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Where is he? I mean, oh my god. We were
just dumbfounded that nobody would say, Okay, he hadn't been
in school, he's not living here, he's not living here.
How could a father wait that long not to know
where his son is? How could how could everybody, the mother, everybody?
It was so convoluted what happened. And then when I
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spoke with Tim, you know, Tim had called me and
just kind of queued me in on what was going on.
And like Tim said, Tim, from the beginning that Teresa
Balboa was lying out of her face. Jim, how did
you know immediately that she was lying? I mean, it
was obvious. We knew where Sarah was at at that time.
We knew that she was lying. There would have any
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police officer there was, or anything, or CPS, there was nothing.
So again I tricked her into doing that interview. And
when she got done doing it, I said to her,
I said, every word you just told the entire world
is a damn alive. What did she say? Well, I
didn't let her say anything. I told her. I said,
two years ago today I was in Arkansas bringing back
(32:09):
the body. A little Blia Davis saying, if you think
I want to be here today, you're crazy as hell.
You know exactly what happened, and you need to talk
to God right now. You and him have a lot
to talk about. And I said, we're getting this old day,
did you understand? And I'm the ellen er And she
just looked at me with them cold eyes and said, yes, sir.
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When you say looked at you with cold eyes, what
do you mean by that? I mean there was no emotion.
There's no tears, there was no nothing. Okay, right there,
Hold on just a moment because I want to go
to Jason Campo, chief prosecutor, joining us out of the
District Attorney's office there in Cameron County. Have you ever
looked across at a defendant and they looked like like
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the eyes of like a frog or a snake or
something cold blood? There's just nothing there. There's no absolutely
and there you can tell because there's also a physical emotion,
like from the body. It's not just in the eyes.
I gotta tell you something, Jason, there's I will never
forget the first time I looked at a guy like that,
it gave me the chills. There was no feeling, no emotion, nothing,
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And that's what Tim Miller from Equasarch is saying. Right now,
take a listen to our cut sixteen. This is Shelley
Childers ABC thirteen. Court records being made public today have
filled in the timeline of five year old Samuel Olson's
disappearance and death, his father telling investigators the little boy
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had been staying with his girlfriend, Teresa Balboa, at this
Webster area apartment since April thirtieth, the last day he
was seen in school. On May tenth, Balboa's roommate says
she called him saying the boy was dead in their apartment.
The roommate left work and found the boy laying in
a bed covered in bruises. They put him in a
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bathtub for two days. Today, this apartment in near Webster
now hasn't notice to vacate. On me thirteenth, duct tape
and a storage toat were purchased by the roommate. He
told investigators he helped Balboa wrap the boy's body in
a plastic sheet, placed the child in the toat, then
stored it at this storage facility in Webster. On me
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twenty seventh, Samuel was finally reported missing, Baboa making up
a story that he was kidnapped from her mother's home
in southwest Houston. And there you have it too, doctor
Alan Blockkey, clinical psychologist joining us out of Birmingham, who
specializes in criminal forensic cases. Doctor Blockkey, why who would
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put a dead child covered in bruises in the bathtub
for two days? I have no clue. It makes no sense.
I mean to buy them time to put them somewhere
before they put him in a tote bag. Oh, it
makes no sense to me. None of this case makes
any sense to a rational mind. Right back to you,
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Tim Miller, we are now learning through police investigation what
happened to sam Olson, a five year old little boy
with a wobbledie tooth. What else do you know, Tim Miller? Well,
you know that father just kept sticking up for Teresa's
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sticking up for Teresa. And then about three thirty that afternoon,
they were down at the end of the apartment complex
outside the sense and I've seen that the ex boyfriend
was outside, so I went down there and again I'm
talking loud, and said I say to Dalton, I said,
Dalton again, I have a problem. How in the world
can you leave your child with somebody in this apartment?
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Conflict you've never seen in your life yet, are you there?
You're cutting out on me. Guys, You're just going to
have to bear with me, because Tim Miller is already
out at a scene looking for someone, a missing person
right now. He's going in and out on But I'll
follow up with Tom Ruskin, private investigator with CNP Portative,
an investigative group. I mean, the stories just aren't fitting together.
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And I don't need anybody to give me a cod
now that I know the little boy was covered in bruises.
Tom Ruskin, you know what's going to happen. You got
the ex boyfriend and the girlfriend Balboa. They're like two
wit cats in a barrel. They're gonna start blaming blaming
each other. And that's your role as a detective. That
happens every single day, as you know, as a formal
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prosecutor of the cops. Will bring them in and start
to talk to them separately and start unraveling this mariative
stories that has developed over this period time. It's sort
of amazing that no one reported this poor little boy
missing for weeks, But the question is first when did
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he go missing? When do you last see him? And
then starting to unravel the story, and even as we
all know, they start blaming each other, and then you
start narrowing the story down. Serena Fazzon following up on
what Tom Ruskin is saying. Has the ex boyfriend been charged?
Where does the case stand right now? And where is
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little Samuel's body? I know right now. I mean, there's
only one person that's charged, and that's and that's hurt
And she's not even charged with any She's just charged
with tampering with eminence. At this point, there's there's so
many questions. It's still out there. That's going to a
grand jury. She's going to be charged with murder. And
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that ex boyfriend Do I have Tim? Did he come back?
Can Tim? Are you there? Ye know? Yeah? Tim? So
the word is that the boyfriend helped her dispose of
the body. All right, let me go back to where
enough when I lost you. But anyhow, we're down there
close to where the boyfriend lives. And I'm telling Dalton again, Dalton,
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I can't understand you allowing your child to stay in
this apartment complex. Right over here was somebody you don't
know and ex boyfriend Ben he's outside, and I says,
and again, this person right here that you're sticking up
for is one hundred percent responsible. And then Dalton starts
literally shaking and crying and hits the ground. And then
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he said, well, you don't understand about Sarah. Last year
she almost ran over me. I said, you're right, she
almost ran over you. But guess what, your son is
not almost missing, and you keep sticking up for this
girl that had everything to do with it. And then
what happened then is Teresis said that she wanted to
go in Ben's apartment and change clothes. Well, she did
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go in Ben's apartment. She came out with a change
of clothes, but I know exactly what the hell happened.
She went in there and said, Ben Eddie is getting
hot right now. We gotta make our move. Ben. I
told them, listen, you got all these fires go past fires.
So they're on this street. They're pasting out flyers. Teresa says,
look at the apartments across the street. I see people outside.
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I'm gonna give them flyers. She went over there, they waited, waited, waited,
she did not come back. Dalton comes to the command center.
He's crying his eyes out. Teresa's gone. She's gone. She's gone.
And I went to Hamaside detectives and I said, listen,
maybe the best thing happened. Teresa just bailed. And they said, yep,
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she bailed. That's the best thing that happened. Now maybe
we can make progress. So I think when I pushed
her so hard at that end, she went in and
told them we got to get the hell out of here.
Jim Miller, every day you laid on the line, I
appreciate you being with us, joining us, or where you
are right now on the job. I guarantee you they're
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going to be more charges in this case. They're probably
waiting on an official cause of death, which is hard
to do with a decomposing body. And that ex boyfriend,
I guarantee you he is not walking away from this.
We wait as just as unfalls. For Right now, I'm
going to find my children and I'm hugging them and
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making sure they're safe from people like Teresa Balboa. Goodbye friend,
A five year old little boy's body found in a
tote bag in a hotel room. I'm Nancy Grace. This
is Crime Stories. Thank you for being with us here
at Fox Nation and series N eleven. How does that happen?
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A little boy's body found in a tote bag in
a hotel room. Take a listen to our friends at
kf d M Fox four. We're here at the Best
Western in Jasper, and at around six o'clock this evening,
we're told that a crime stopper's tip was called into
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the Sheriff's office and at that point that Hall was
transferred to the police department. Chief Gerald Hall says he
sent one of his officers here to the room because,
according to him, the call said something to the effect
that a missing boy was inside and a topebag. What
we understand, one of his officers went inside and immediately
backed out. We don't know if because he saw something
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disturbing or something suspicious, but immediately the chief says that
all his officers would not go inside. They wanted to
protect this scene and not contaminate the scene. And basically
it has been sealed off from even Jasper officers. An
officer is standing guard. But other than that, this is
the most activity we've seen in the last hour, and
that is someone taking photos outside the motel room. And
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from what we'd understand, the Texas Rangers just arrived, and
that's what we're doing right now, is waiting for Houston
authorities to come and actually begin this investigation. I guarantee
that was not a photag or a journalist taking his pictures.
That was a crime scene technician and trying to get
a visual police get a tip, an anonymous tip that
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a little boy is in a tote bag in a
hotel room. They bust in and immediately stop and back
up and start backing up. Why what did they see?
What was in that room that made them all back up?
Holding the journalists and the reporters at bay. I can
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only imagine again, for those of you just joining us,
the body of a little boy found in a tote
bag in a hotel room. And you can bet your
bottom dollar we're on it, and I want answers, don't you?
Don't you For those of you that have children, or
maybe you're an aunt or an uncle, who in the
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hey would do this to a little boy? With me
an all star panel to try and sift through the
clues that have been left behind. Jason Campo, Chief Prosecutor,
Cameron County, Texas. Five years in the DA's Office of
Family Violence Union. Doctor Allan Blockkey, PhD. Clinical Psychologists out
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of Bringing It, Birmingham. Blockkey specializes in criminal cases and
child forensic cases. Doctor Jeffrey M. Jensen, Professor Forensic Pathology,
Director of Autopsy and Forensic Services, University Michigan Medical School.
Former medical examiner in Milwaukee County, Wisconsin. Tom Ruskin, private
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investigator joining us today. President of CMP Protective and an
Investigative Group. Former New York City Police detective investigator and
you can find him at cmpdashgroup dot com. Andy com
director of Victim Services Advocacy Crime Stoppers in Houston. And
Serena Fazon first out to her four time Emmy Award
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winning TV anchor and reporter. You can find a writer
podcast on the Record with Serena Fazon. Serena, this is
just so bizarre to me, A very narrow question to you.
To start it off, let me understand and anonymous tip
lad police to this hotel. Room's crazy, isn't it? Nancy?
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An anonymous tip but Art, but was it really anonymous? Understanding,
don't police have call or I D I mean, is
it really anonymous? Who would know that there is a
boy in a tote bag in a locked hotel room?
Big question? Right? And we see things on TV all
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the time. Let me go to Utahn Ruskin probably an
investigator where there's a phone call and somewhere somebody is
tracking that call and they know where it comes from.
That's just on TV. That's not real life, right, No,
that's real life. I mean most to the police lines
are tapped and taped and also have qual ID enhanced
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the quiller ID, So some of the numbers that are
calling a going to an eight hundred number which shows
the number, so would lead police potentially to that person
who is calling for the tip and then they would
respond to it. And I gotta tell you so often
I would handle felony cases with an anonymous tipster. It's
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not always anonymous, it's someone very close to the case
that wants to remain anonymous. In this case, I can
tell you why because there is a dead child involved
in a toadbag. But how did the whole thing get started?
Take a listen to our friend Steve Campion, ABC thirteen, Houston.
This little boy's grandmother is pleading for help, pleading for
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information to find Sam. You really could hear the worry
in her voice when she spoke with us less than
twelve hours after police wrapped up a search warrant that
they'd executed at the apartment complex in southeast Houston, as
they have continued their search looking for this missing boy.
She described the boy as sweet, kind, smart. She says
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Sam loves dinosaurs and toy story and that there's been
conflicting information about this case, that it's been complicated from
the get go. She says, someone knows something, and she
shared this message with us as a mom, and it's
a grandma. If you know anything, or you think your
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child is capable of this, you need to sit them
down and pray with them and make them do the
right thing. I know it's hard to have to think
that you love somebody and somebody could do something, but
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we need to know you are hearing the grandma reaching out,
begging or clues, and I find that very very interesting.
Right off the top. To Jason Campo, she prosecutor joining
us out of Cameron County, Texas. Jason, thank you for
being with us, because right there you're hearing the grandma.
She doesn't know what's happened to baby Samuel, but she's saying,
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if you think you're a child, I guess adult child
did this. Right there, that's telling me she doesn't think
this little boy just wandered away and maybe I accidentally
got into a pond. She thinks at the get go,
somebody took the child. That's very clear to me. What
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do you think that's right? She's looking for somebody to report,
somebody to tell somebody something that they know. She knows
that somebody did something to this child, and they just
need answers. You know, I'm thinking about a search want
that was filed, and I find it very very interesting.
A lot of people, Serena Fazan, think that there is
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something to farry us about a search warrant being filed
where the child went missing. It's not that's where you
start every investigation. And cops never know when they go
to the home, are they going to give us permission
to go in or do we need a warrant? So
they better have a warrant when they go. Of course,
I always assume that parents are going to give permission,
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but they went with a warrant anyway to search the home,
and they found nothing in the home, and the search
for little Samuel goes on. Is that correct? Well, absolutely empty.
And you know in order to get a search warrant,
you know that the judge in the case, you have
to find some probable cause to be able to go in. Yeah,
the fact that that's the last place that the boy
was seen and now he's missing. You're the grandmother pleading
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and pleading for answers. I'm trying to figure out in
this case. Straight out to doctor Allen Blocky, PhD, Clinical
Psychologists joining us out of Birmingham, Doctor Blockkey. When a
child goes missing last seen at the home, there are
a few alternatives. But I noticed when my children were
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just two years old, doctor Blockkey. They weren't even two
years old. They knew how to They were like monkeys.
They could unlock the lock on the handle of the
door that led into the laundry room that led to outside,
and there was a stairway going up beside that door.
Right beside it. They figured out how to go up
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two stairs and reach over and turn the dead bolt.
I had to end up putting another bolt way up
high where I had to go up the stairs too
and reach all the way up to turn it, so
they wouldn't just wander out if I turned my back.
Children are very curious and very inquisitive, and they knew
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how to get out the door. That is absolutely the truth.
Of course, there are other times when they can't get
out the door and we're left wondering what exactly happened.
This is such a confusing, almost unfathomable situation. It really
isn't go ahead, obviously said, there's so many unanswered questions.
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There's so many different possible players in this situation, and
so many unexplainable relationships in this Oh my goodness, of course,
because you've got the parents separated and there's a custody
battle going on, and that muddies the water about who
took Little Samuel. Crime stories with Nancy Grace. What we
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know is that the child is found. The child is
found after an extensive search in a hotel room, in
a toeback, obviously dead. But let me ask you this.
Serenaf is on joining us four time Emmy Award winning
reporter and anchor. We're going to tell me about the area, Well,
(11:02):
tell me about Jasper, Texas well, Jasser Texas. In fact,
why don't I know it's about two hours from Houston,
But why don't I even look up details about Jasper.
I mean, it's not a very big community. It's a
small It's a small town where people are looking out
for each other. It's not the hold dog Harry Jonas.
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If it's on, Andy Kahn wants in. Andy Kahn, director
victim Services at Crime Stoffers of Houston, tell me about Jasper. Jasper,
Texas is rural Texas. Period. It's a small town, little crime.
Everybody knows everybody there. I mean, you have you still
have the old fashioned main to main street there where
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everybody pretty much congregates. So it's quite as quintessential American
small town. Everybody knows everybody. You know, Andy Kahn, You've
handled so many cases. Andy and I've been colleagues for many,
many years. You've handled big city cases. You're right there
in Houston. You've handled rural cases, and you advocate four victims.
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And I'm very, very curious to Jason Campo as Andy
is accurately telling us about how this is a very
rule setting everybody knows everybody else. But the reality is
Jason Campo. We all also know that you think you
know somebody, you don't know them. You don't know what
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they're doing behind closed doors. You don't know what neighbor
may have been watching this child. Let's see about Delphi
for a moment. The two girls taken off the bridge
in Delphi. I think sex assaulted, will find out, but
I know murdered. And now this many months later, a
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guy turns up grabbing the neighbor girl I think she
was nine, and taking her down into a torture chamber,
raping her. And if the parents had reported her missing immediately,
should be dead. Right. Nobody knew the next door neighbor
was a child predator. Nobody knew that. So even in
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a small town, you don't know who people really are.
We see this all the time in family violence cases
when I'm doing the bordier on a trial and I asked,
you know who has experience with family violence, and people
always speak up and say, you know, we didn't know
that anything was going on until months after it had
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actually started. Because nobody really knows what's going on behind
the closed doors of somebody else's house. They know the
image that they present in public or even in private
with family members, but they don't know what's going on
once the doors of the house are closed. To doctor
Jeffrey M. Jensen, Professor Forensic Pathology, Director of Autopsy, Forensic Services,
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University Michigan Medical School, form a Medical Examiner, Milwaukee County,
I could keep on reading his resume forever, Doctor Jensen,
thank you for being with us. How much I'm glad
to be here? Yes, sir? How much does it hurt
a case? Hurt the medical examiner and trying to find
a cod cause of death? I mean, we know manner
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of death. People can get confused and autops you get
cause of death. For instance, I just shot Jackie in
Kelly to Boot. That would be cod. Manner of death
would be either accidental natural causes, murder, homicidal violence. So,
doctor Jensen, we know that this boy has been missing
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for a period of time. We now know at the
very least he's been I guess folded up into a
tote bag in a hotel room. How badly if the
room is at room temp. How badly decomposed would his
body be if he had been there, let's just say
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a month. Well, we'll depend upon the storage of the
of the body. If the body was held in a
cool area, for example, or some other or heated area,
that a temperature would would drastically change the opinion as
to the time of death. Okay, let's go with the
room temp. Room temperature, a body would start to decay
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within a matter of forty eight two seventy two hours
and be in an advanced state of decomposition within four
to five days. Okay, speak to you know what you
just reminded me of doctor Jeffrey M. Jensen, And I
mean this in a loving and caring way, your mommy.
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Of all the times the medical examiner would see my
beat up Honda pulling it up and probably try to
hide because I would have to go through every line
the autopsy report, which can be many, many pages, to
get it in regular people talk, so I can understand it.
So when you say if a body had been in
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a tote bag for twenty nine days and with the
topebag zipped, I imagine it would have been put in
a closet or under a bed in a hotel room
at am beyond air temp. What do you mean by
advanced state of decomposition? Break it down for me. Would
the body be skeletonized. Probably not, would it be gelatinous goo.
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Maybe I don't know. I'm an m D. You're I'm
a JD. You're the MD. What do you mean by
advanced state dcomp Advanced decomposition typically has evidence of putrification,
meaning bacterial destruction of the body tissues. There is a
purge of fluid coming from the body. There's also blackened
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discoloration throughout the body. If the body is in a
heated area, that's when you start to get mummification, and
in those cases the body would be hard and almost odorless.
Going back to the initial scene, I think the well
trained police officer that entered that scene probably detected an
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odor of decomposition in in the hotel room, maybe a
disarray of the surroundings that indicated some kind of an assault.
But knowing that he probably did need you know, legal
approval to go into that scene is one of the
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reasons why I probably backed out. The combination of an odor,
suspicion of criminal activity, and then the need to maintain
a chain of custody and legal permission entered to the scene.
You know, Andy Khan with me, Director Victim Services is
at Crime Starffers Houston. I think you have a little
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less problem with this than I do, because sometimes it's
very hard for me to reconcile five year old little
boy with what doctor Jeffrey M. Jensen said. I remember
the district attorney he elected DA called me down to
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his office one time, Andy and said, do you think
you're a little too emastionally involved in your cases? And
I thought a moment and said yes. He said, Okay,
that was it, that was the whole thing. And I
continued to prosecute for the next ten years. But how
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do you hear what doctor Jeffrey Jensen just said. And
you look at a picture five year old Samuel Olsen,
and I mean, think about it, Andy, when I say
he's in a tote bag, somebody had to like fold
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a little boy up, did and put him in a
tote bag. I can tell you, Nancy, all of us
that crime stoppers were absolutely heartbroken, and you could actually
see tears visibly coming out of our staff's eyes, especially
when you look at the little boy's face. At Samuel
five years old, doesn't know what's going to be happening
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to him. I mean, we've seen a lot of depravity
in our career, But to do this to a five
year old boy and just stuffing in, you know, like
he's a bag of chips, and then crush him, and
then and then just pretend that nothing's happened. This is
about as cold blooded, diabolical to parade as I've seen
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in my thirty year career as a victim advocate. You know, Andy,
I just people think that prosecutors and cops are like
hearts of stone and you don't feel anything when you
see this, or read this, or prosecute this. The reality
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is very often I had to stop myself from going
there in my mind actually thinking through what the killer
did because it's so awful. Climb stories with Nancy Grace.
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We now have the body. It's in a horrible state
of decomposition, and I think doctor Jensen was absolutely correct.
It was the smell. They opened that door, and it
was like getting hit with a brick. A brick, And
there's something about it. Once you smell a decomposing body,
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you know what it is. It's it's instinctive. Like when
you jump in the water, you know you have to
get to the top to breathe. When you smell a
dead human body, you know, what it is. Now we
have to figure out how this child ended up in
that toebag straight out to you. Tom Ruskin, private investigator,
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President CMP Protective and Investigative Group, and former NYPD investigator.
The first thing you would do to process that room
is what we know that rightly, the crime scene text
where they're taking photos immediately of the outside of the door.
What else do they need to do? Well, you noticeably
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secure the crime scene. As you said, most cops who
are seasoned officers walking down the hall will know that stench,
that smell that you never get rid of in your mind.
At that point in time, it's few officers respond posability
to secure that quor echine, to make sure that detectives
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and crime chine detectives come and start to forensically process
that room, moving towards where they know that body will exist,
and then to document everything for your purposes as a prosecutor,
to basically catalog everything, take the body out of wherever
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it's contained, and then process the body to determine if
there's any noticeable cause of death that will later be
determined by the medical examiner. Mate, this is doctor Jensen,
and justlike I just like to point out that you know,
it's important to get the medical examiner or forensic pathologists
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involved early in the case because the autopsy essentially starts
at the scene, and it's important for the forensic pathologists
to get a first hand view of the remains as
soon as possible in order to start the process of
determining the actual time of death or establishing the time
of death. You know. One other point is that I
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think disposal of the body is the last thing that
many perpetrators think about. It actually causes a lot of
creative methods of body disposal and this is just one
of those cases. Whoever that is just jump in place.
It's three Nason as you and I both now, especially
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you know with your background at this point, it is
so crucial to take every one of these steps very
slowly and carefully because we don't know. There's so many
twist and turns in this case. Oh man, there really are,
and the processing of that scene is everything. Yeah, just
take a listen to our friends at ABC thirteen Houston.
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Little Samuel Olson turns six years old today, but his
family has no idea where he is. Sam when missing
on Thursday, when he was being looked after by a
family member. His grandmother, Tanya Olsen, has full custody of Sam,
but she says Sam's mother showed up with someone else,
claiming to be a police officer and took him, though
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both parents say that he is not with either one
of them. We're not even sure who took him, how happened.
We just know that the mother showed up with a
police officer, and then we just found out the police
officer wasn't real. So tough. Sam was last seen on
mccoboy Drive in southwest Houston. Okay, take a listen to
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more what we were learning from ABC thirteen Houston. We're
talking about a five year old little boy, Samuel. Hours ago,
we found out it was a fake police officer. Sam
is missing. They're saying they do not have him. So
we would like to reach up to the public to
get Sam's picture out there. Anybody that know, anybody, anybody
who knows that they've seen Sam somewhere, somebody picked him
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up to hide him for the mother's family, Please reach out.
I mean, that's what we're wanting. We just need sample.
And he's litching two bottomed cheese and his front chooth
is loose and he was wearing a gray T shirt
with a Kool Aid man on it, some jean shorts,
some buzz light ear, tenny shoes with two mismatched superhero socks.
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Sam actually has two ears that are pierced. He has
on his right side of his head. If you pick
up his hair, it's like a golden brown. He has
a white birth spot that he's had since he was
a baby that's like this thig and it's white, but
you kind of have to lift his little curls up
to see it. So if anybody has seen him, peace,
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please please call HPD. You know, I'm hearing that immedily
thought of my little boy at this age five when
he had his teeth wobbledee and snaggle too, and that
tender tender time in them growing up. And this child
is missing. And now I'm hearing a story that a
fake police officer showed up with the bio mom. But
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Serena Fazon, isn't it true that the biomm was elsewhere?
She was nowhere near where Samuel was, right, she wasn't
even near where sam was. So this is can you
imagine how that mom is feeling after hearing the story.
So we know it's not so who was it? And
(26:35):
what's this business about a fake cop? Guys? Enter, my friend,
my longtime colleague from Texas Equisearch, Tim Miller. I want
you to hear what he says to Jason Miles kho
you eleven Houston. Miller said it was difficult from the beginning,
pinning down. The last time family members saw Samuel. The
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last persons him was was with Teresa Balboa, including the
boy's father and paternal grandmother, with whom we spoke yesterday. Okay,
right there, I thought he was with his bio grandma,
But no, he's with Teresa Balboa. And it's my understanding
Teresa Balboa is daddy's girlfriend. Is that correct? Join me
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right now? Is Tim Miller from Texas Equiserchier. Let me
tell you something about Miller. Tim Miller's daughter was murdered
and he has devoted his life since that time to
helping to find missing people. Just like you might get
(27:45):
up and I might go to the DA's office, or
Jackie might come to the studio. He gets up every
morning and tries to find missing people, wading through water,
riding horseback, riding in ATV, bringing out the cadaver dogs,
dogs every day, Tim Miller, thank you for being with us.
(28:05):
Who thank you is Teresa bow Boa. Well, we got
called on this son's gone the friday after little Sam
apparently disappeared. We knew in the beginning there was no
truth whatsoever. Some police officer came up and took that child.
Now that Sunday night. How did you know that at
(28:27):
the very beginning, Tim Miller, Well, I mean her stories
were fabricated. We knew where Sarah was the biological mother,
so we knew no mother was there with no police.
Let me understand something, Tim Miller, equal search, the grandmother
did not have Sam when he goes missing. Correct, it
was the girlfriend. It was the girlfriend, and you know
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it was crazy about that. I got dogs into my
house the night before we started the search, and I said,
what do you know about this guy Ben? And he says, well, nothing.
I said, when the last time he talked to him? Never?
I said, are you telling me you're allowing your fiance
and your five year old child to be staying with
an ex boyfriend? And he said, well, Teresa said, he's
(29:10):
a good guy. Helps her out, So you know I was, well,
wait a minute. So the six year old was with
the dad's girlfriend and her ex. With the ex, supposedly
Sam got sick. They thought he had COVID. They didn't
want him be around the grandfather. So Teresa said, I'll
(29:30):
go to my ex boyfriend's house. He's a nice guy,
and so anyhow, I always left him till one twenty
in the morning at my house with the father. The
next morning we started the search and I did an
interview and Teresa was down there and I told Teresa,
(29:51):
I said, Teresa, you need to do it. You need
to tell the whole world what happened, and people will
be looked at. Maybe we'll get Sam back safe, which
I knew that wasn't the case. She didn't want to
do it, didn't want to do it. So Teresa Balboa
did not want to speak publicly. No, that's finally I
literally I forced her into it. And then when she
(30:14):
got done doing it, I went over to her and
I said, Teresa, every word you just said to the world,
there's nothing got to lie climb stories with Nancy Grace
(30:36):
straight out to Andy Kahn, Andy Kahan, how many days
passed before this child was reported missing? You're looking at
twenty nine days where nobody did anything about a five
year old boy that was last seen April thirtieth, and
then May twenty seventh, you decide, oh, wait, nobody's seen him.
(31:00):
Where is he? I mean, oh my god. We were
just dumbfounded that nobody would say, Okay, he hadn't been
in school, he's not living here, he's not living here.
How could a father wait that long not to know
where his son is? How could how could everybody, the mother, everybody?
It was so convoluted what happened. And then when I
(31:23):
spoke with Tim, you know, Tim had called me and
just kind of queued me in on what was going on.
And like Tim said, Tim, from the beginning that Teresa
Balboa was lying out of her face. Jim, how did
you know immediately that she was lying? I mean, it
was obvious. We knew where Sarah was at at that time.
We knew that she was lying. There would have any
(31:47):
police officer there was, or anything, or CPS, there was nothing.
So again I tricked her into doing that interview. And
when she got done doing it, I said to her,
I said, every word you just told the entire world
is a damn alive. What did she say? Well, I
didn't let her say anything. I told her. I said,
two years ago today I was in Arkansas bringing back
(32:09):
the body. A little Blia Davis saying, if you think
I want to be here today, you're crazy as hell.
You know exactly what happened, and you need to talk
to God right now. You and him have a lot
to talk about. And I said, we're getting this old day,
did you understand? And I'm the ellen er And she
just looked at me with them cold eyes and said, yes, sir.
(32:30):
When you say looked at you with cold eyes, what
do you mean by that? I mean there was no emotion.
There's no tears, there was no nothing. Okay, right there,
Hold on just a moment because I want to go
to Jason Campo, chief prosecutor, joining us out of the
District Attorney's office there in Cameron County. Have you ever
looked across at a defendant and they looked like like
(32:51):
the eyes of like a frog or a snake or
something cold blood? There's just nothing there. There's no absolutely
and there you can tell because there's also a physical emotion,
like from the body. It's not just in the eyes.
I gotta tell you something, Jason, there's I will never
forget the first time I looked at a guy like that,
it gave me the chills. There was no feeling, no emotion, nothing,
(33:16):
And that's what Tim Miller from Equasarch is saying. Right now,
take a listen to our cut sixteen. This is Shelley
Childers ABC thirteen. Court records being made public today have
filled in the timeline of five year old Samuel Olson's
disappearance and death, his father telling investigators the little boy
(33:37):
had been staying with his girlfriend, Teresa Balboa, at this
Webster area apartment since April thirtieth, the last day he
was seen in school. On May tenth, Balboa's roommate says
she called him saying the boy was dead in their apartment.
The roommate left work and found the boy laying in
a bed covered in bruises. They put him in a
(33:57):
bathtub for two days. Today, this apartment in near Webster
now hasn't notice to vacate. On me thirteenth, duct tape
and a storage toat were purchased by the roommate. He
told investigators he helped Balboa wrap the boy's body in
a plastic sheet, placed the child in the toat, then
stored it at this storage facility in Webster. On me
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twenty seventh, Samuel was finally reported missing, Baboa making up
a story that he was kidnapped from her mother's home
in southwest Houston. And there you have it too, doctor
Alan Blockkey, clinical psychologist joining us out of Birmingham, who
specializes in criminal forensic cases. Doctor Blockkey, why who would
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put a dead child covered in bruises in the bathtub
for two days? I have no clue. It makes no sense.
I mean to buy them time to put them somewhere
before they put him in a tote bag. Oh, it
makes no sense to me. None of this case makes
any sense to a rational mind. Right back to you,
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Tim Miller, we are now learning through police investigation what
happened to sam Olson, a five year old little boy
with a wobbledie tooth. What else do you know, Tim Miller? Well,
you know that father just kept sticking up for Teresa's
(35:23):
sticking up for Teresa. And then about three thirty that afternoon,
they were down at the end of the apartment complex
outside the sense and I've seen that the ex boyfriend
was outside, so I went down there and again I'm
talking loud, and said I say to Dalton, I said,
Dalton again, I have a problem. How in the world
can you leave your child with somebody in this apartment?
(35:45):
Conflict you've never seen in your life yet, are you there?
You're cutting out on me. Guys, You're just going to
have to bear with me, because Tim Miller is already
out at a scene looking for someone, a missing person
right now. He's going in and out on But I'll
follow up with Tom Ruskin, private investigator with CNP Portative,
an investigative group. I mean, the stories just aren't fitting together.
(36:08):
And I don't need anybody to give me a cod
now that I know the little boy was covered in bruises.
Tom Ruskin, you know what's going to happen. You got
the ex boyfriend and the girlfriend Balboa. They're like two
wit cats in a barrel. They're gonna start blaming blaming
each other. And that's your role as a detective. That
happens every single day, as you know, as a formal
(36:31):
prosecutor of the cops. Will bring them in and start
to talk to them separately and start unraveling this mariative
stories that has developed over this period time. It's sort
of amazing that no one reported this poor little boy
missing for weeks, But the question is first when did
(36:53):
he go missing? When do you last see him? And
then starting to unravel the story, and even as we
all know, they start blaming each other, and then you
start narrowing the story down. Serena Fazzon following up on
what Tom Ruskin is saying. Has the ex boyfriend been charged?
Where does the case stand right now? And where is
(37:15):
little Samuel's body? I know right now. I mean, there's
only one person that's charged, and that's and that's hurt
And she's not even charged with any She's just charged
with tampering with eminence. At this point, there's there's so
many questions. It's still out there. That's going to a
grand jury. She's going to be charged with murder. And
(37:37):
that ex boyfriend Do I have Tim? Did he come back?
Can Tim? Are you there? Ye know? Yeah? Tim? So
the word is that the boyfriend helped her dispose of
the body. All right, let me go back to where
enough when I lost you. But anyhow, we're down there
close to where the boyfriend lives. And I'm telling Dalton again, Dalton,
(37:58):
I can't understand you allowing your child to stay in
this apartment complex. Right over here was somebody you don't
know and ex boyfriend Ben he's outside, and I says,
and again, this person right here that you're sticking up
for is one hundred percent responsible. And then Dalton starts
literally shaking and crying and hits the ground. And then
(38:21):
he said, well, you don't understand about Sarah. Last year
she almost ran over me. I said, you're right, she
almost ran over you. But guess what, your son is
not almost missing, and you keep sticking up for this
girl that had everything to do with it. And then
what happened then is Teresis said that she wanted to
go in Ben's apartment and change clothes. Well, she did
(38:45):
go in Ben's apartment. She came out with a change
of clothes, but I know exactly what the hell happened.
She went in there and said, Ben Eddie is getting
hot right now. We gotta make our move. Ben. I
told them, listen, you got all these fires go past fires.
So they're on this street. They're pasting out flyers. Teresa says,
look at the apartments across the street. I see people outside.
(39:07):
I'm gonna give them flyers. She went over there, they waited, waited, waited,
she did not come back. Dalton comes to the command center.
He's crying his eyes out. Teresa's gone. She's gone. She's gone.
And I went to Hamaside detectives and I said, listen,
maybe the best thing happened. Teresa just bailed. And they said, yep,
(39:27):
she bailed. That's the best thing that happened. Now maybe
we can make progress. So I think when I pushed
her so hard at that end, she went in and
told them we got to get the hell out of here.
Jim Miller, every day you laid on the line, I
appreciate you being with us, joining us, or where you
are right now on the job. I guarantee you they're
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going to be more charges in this case. They're probably
waiting on an official cause of death, which is hard
to do with a decomposing body. And that ex boyfriend,
I guarantee you he is not walking away from this.
We wait as just as unfalls. For Right now, I'm
going to find my children and I'm hugging them and
(40:13):
making sure they're safe from people like Teresa Balboa. Goodbye friend,
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