July Mailbag

With Summer League over, Justin and Carter turn their focus back to the main roster and answer listener questions about the team. From next year's rotation, to where expectations should be and a lot more!

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Episode Transcript

Speaker 1 (00:00):
This crowd rises to its being.

Speaker 2 (00:03):
What Carl slamming it?

Speaker 3 (00:04):
Oh Carle left.

Speaker 2 (00:05):
Wing, free ball, perfect pop.

Speaker 1 (00:09):
Then the half block, the shot at the rim, how
with the left hand and a fowl.

Speaker 3 (00:16):
Welcome to the Chasetown Podcast, part of the Cast Media family.
I'm your host, Justin Roan. The Chase Doown is presented
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dot com. We got a mail bag episode. We haven't
done one since before the draft. Great time to fill
the dead time of summer and joining me today to

(00:37):
help answer some of your questions, which again big thanks
to everyone that submitted them is my co host, Carter Rodriguez. Carter,
how you doing, Buddy?

Speaker 2 (00:44):
Good time for a dead time, Baby, It's time to
break out the mail bag. The greatest content filler in
the history of podcast.

Speaker 3 (00:53):
It truly is. It's so much fun to do them
and is just such easy content. And I love it
because we get to cover such a wide range of
topics and things.

Speaker 2 (01:04):
I tell you, I'm still angsty every time we do
the bass signal like, what if no one writes any questions,
I'll never go away. We get like thirty every time,
and I'm always.

Speaker 3 (01:16):
Like, well, we're lucky because our listeners are sickos just
like us, and they want to talk about the Cavs
all time of the year, and they get more creative
than we do sometimes, you know, the weekly grind of
coming up topics for the podcast. I have blind spots.
I have things that I don't think of when it
comes to show preps. So these are really helpful in

(01:38):
trying to eliminate those.

Speaker 2 (01:39):
More creative than us. A low bar.

Speaker 3 (01:41):
Indeed, Well, let's jump right into it with a friend
and fellow Calves podcaster, Corey Walsh of the Fabulous It's
Cavalier podcast, asking, with the Cavaliers placing an emphas on
spacing the floor and adding shooters, where do you see
this team turning to play the backup five.

Speaker 2 (02:00):
Gonna be Evan? There's actually kind of no road other
than that right now for a lot of important players
to get minutes, like if Evan played, you know, thirty
four thirty five minutes a game at the four. Well,
Bang Bang Nyang just got paid part of the mid
level to wave a towel, you know, or Isaac o'coro is,

(02:23):
or or Dean Wade is or Karris Lavertez or some
really probably a combination of all this. So you still
when you look at the weight of the roster right now,
it's still weighted towards playable guys that can play the
two of the three, the three of the four. And
and you know, Damian Jones is a really nice depth piece.
I mean, there's a world in which he rance his

(02:44):
way into the rotation and gets some backup five minutes.
But I'm going to lean towards kind of presidential not
even accounting for a Dean Wade backup season, just knowing
that they added Nyang, they still have Ocoro, they still
have Keros, who's gonna play a lot of the three.
There's just I just don't see a road to healthy

(03:04):
rotation without a lot of backup five. Plus it allows
them a lot more optionality, like if all your five
minutes are Jared Allen and Damian Jones. In some ways,
it's good to have a lot of the same, but
you want to have lineup versatility, and I think Evan
gives you a different look than Jared at the five
when Evan's come the lone big on the floor, So

(03:26):
I think he's good. I think it's going to be
Mobilely like ninety percent of the time. But you know,
I just think the Cavs are a lot better equipped
for one of those guys get banged up, getting foul, trouble, etc.
Than they were last year.

Speaker 3 (03:38):
Yeah, assuming everyone's healthy, I think it'll be Evan at
the five. And I think that kind of formation is
also just going to make it easier to give them
those playmaking reps. Right, Like, I think when you're really
going to use Mobilely as the hub is going to
be in a lot of those second unit minutes where
you do have Niang at the four, he'll likely be
paired with Darius again at point guard right, and you

(03:58):
run some offense through him in those instances. And yeah,
if Jared, if you assume he's playing about thirty minutes
per game, which I think when you were laying out
your minute projections, that's about where you had him, that
gives about eighteen minutes for Evan to play at center right,
which is funny. If Evan's playing thirty four minutes a game,
he's playing eighteen at center and sixteen at power Forward.

(04:21):
Do you make the argument that he's more of a
center than a four. It's interesting, but I think when
they're healthy, that's probably the way that this is going
to go. I wouldn't be surprised if Jared misses some
time that Damian Jones gets the start at center, similar
to how we saw Dean Wade fill in for Lowry,
just to keep continuity within the rotation. And maybe in
those games you do see Dean play a little bit

(04:42):
of five because he's someone that has shown that he
can protect the rim. Maybe you go small. We'll see
what the Cavs do with these last roster spots, but
I think for the most part, you're going to see
those two playing the majority of the minutes of the five.

Speaker 2 (04:56):
Couldn't agree more, buddy, Let's keep it moving because we
always go so long and then leave like nine questions
on the cutting room floor.

Speaker 3 (05:02):
Yeah, yeah, let's get a little bit. We got a lot
of questions here. Let's let's get concise for a change.
Skittles asked out of the available top free agents, Ubre
would Washington are you worried about them finding roles and
or pushing someone else important out of the rotation. I
would assume this is in the context in which the
Calves we're able to add one of these guys. Correct,

(05:25):
the rotation kind of feels full right now, But i'd
hate to turn down good players. I don't worry about
that because I would assume that that is part of
the free agent pitch. If you were to sign someone else,
just hey, the existing guys in the rotation are probably
going to be prioritized over you. You're going to have
to be ready to kind of pick your spots to

(05:45):
come into the rotation. But if one of these guys
were to sign with the Calves and were to earn
minutes over somebody already within the existing rotation, maybe that's
not the best reflection on the players that they're earning
minutes over. But I do think healthy competition is an
important thing. I think, you know, iron sharpens iron, and
it's not something that I would necessarily worry about. But

(06:06):
you know, that would be a new type of challenge
for JB to handle because having so many rotation caliber
guys that you have to kind of cut guys out
of the rotation and you have to have this kind
of competition. That's a new problem for him.

Speaker 2 (06:19):
Yeah, I mean in some in some respects, he had
that problem last year in the sense that you know,
Kevin Love got cut out of the rotation, and you know,
we all know how that that played out. I do
think this would be a different kind of animal. But like, ultimately,
I think you're right in the sense that, like listen,
I and it's part of why I don't think they're

(06:42):
going to get any of these guys because I you know, Kelly,
you Ray might not be getting the full mid level,
but I certainly don't think he's going to show up
if he's like, hey, you might get minutes if you
outplay Isaaca Korro and Karras and two other guys, you
might get up to twenty minutes a game. Like, It's
not exactly an appealing pitch, even if even if ubre

(07:02):
Is is hungering for a good team, you know, after
many years of not being on such good teams. So like,
I don't I'm not particularly worried about it because I
just don't find it super likely. Like PJ. Washington, by
the way, like they would have to trade probably they
would have to send out players if they wanted to
sign a guy like that because you know, he's a

(07:24):
strictor free agent and he wouldn't sign for what the
Cavs have available to sign, and if he did, the
Charlotte Hornets would just match. So you know, that's a
different question. If they were to do another sign in trade,
it would just be signed in trade summer. But you know, ultimately,
I just think, like I will say this to Skittles,
like wider question, no one gets a guaranteed ross rotation

(07:50):
spot except guys that were so sure that are going
to be great that they're unimpeachable, which is you know,
really the top four guys. Everyone else like sorry, Like
we're trying to win it. We're trying to be a
championship team, you know, and championship teams have to play
their best players, who play the best who are in
the minutes or or best fit with their the team

(08:13):
is trying to do in the postseason. So you know,
it is a challenge in ego management. But ultimately, I
think it's one that if the Cabs had an opportunity
to add another really really helpful player, like.

Speaker 3 (08:23):
Like an Uber.

Speaker 2 (08:25):
I know you're a little lower on Christian Wood than
I am, but we're both pretty high on PJ Washington, Like,
if they were to add guys like that, I think
they wouldn't. I wouldn't let role stop them, but I
think the role might stop the player in question.

Speaker 3 (08:40):
Yeah, I think PJ would change our answer to who
plays the five question as well, Like you'd have to
figure out how you stagger him with maybe Mobile and
the Yangs playing with Alan in the staggering minutes, Like
you'd have to get really creative in that rotation. But
this ties into the next question from Mike Schriner, who
asks thoughts on Javon take Green to fill the Lamar spots.

(09:01):
Seems like he might be a better and cheaper fit
than Ubray. Definitely agree that he probably his market's a
little cooler. It is funny, though, and this is a
great question, but I'm using this not to be snarky,
which is sometimes the way that I go. But really,
the Lamar spot's already kind of been filled within the

(09:22):
rotation because you have Max Struce, who's likely going to
replace so Coro or his spot in the rotation, and
then Okoro kind of slides down the depth chart to
replace maybe the Jetty minutes, and then you have Dang
coming in to replace the Lamar minutes. If you assume
he's kind of like that third fourth guy off the bench,
Keris is obviously staying in his same spot. So the

(09:45):
depth of this team is already so much greater than
it was last year that if you're going to talk about,
you know, a guy that's not in the opening night
rotation that's there later on, I think that's going to
be Dean Wade in kind of filling that Lamar role.
If I had to guess one guy, but in terms
of filling Lamar's end of season role, in terms of
where he was coming in off the bench, I think

(10:06):
that's George Nyang.

Speaker 2 (10:08):
Yeah, I mean I think that. I think the logic
hoals there. You know, I think the spirit of the
question is kind of about Lamar's opening day role, which was,
you know, he was, you know, with love and and
Wigde healthy and playing well like he was like a
few tiers below you know, start, you know, being in

(10:31):
the rotation, and he was kind of that you know,
break class in case of needing toughness guy that JAB
was able to use on a ninth night basis early
in the season before the team got banged up, before
Kevin went Away, et cetera. That's at least at least
the way I read it, and sure I think there's
some value to that. I think Jamonte Green's a nice player.

(10:53):
He works Hardy's tough. He's athletic in a way that
most of our front court players that are not Evan
Mobley and j Allen or not crazy athletic in terms
of how he covers ground. I still find myself a
little bit more drawn to four fives than three fours
with with their you know, quote unquote final roster spot,
and of course they have two roster spots open, but

(11:16):
you know, based on all reporting, they really have one
until they're starting to flirt with that tax. So you know,
I I feel like they have a lot of three
fourths on the team already. They have Niang, they have Wade,
I can go Quorro can play that role. They obviously
have Evan who's gonna play a lot of minutes at
the four.

Speaker 3 (11:34):
So like I just would Rapy it's at the four
last year, like even though he's six five, right, Like
he's a strong body and has played minutes there before
on a successful team. Yeah, Whereas I feel like Damian
Jones is a pure backup five. So like, if you
have a bunch of three fours, why not try to
find that four five. You know that there is some

(11:55):
appeal to the Christian would archetype, if not the actual player,
depending on how you feel about him. But like that
four or five kind of swing position had a lot
of appeal to me in a lot of way. A
lot of the things that people liked about Mamma di
Diakt last year, obviously on a on a smaller scale. Yeah,
totally agree. I like him. I'm on the same page

(12:16):
with you with you know, wanting depth there, and some
of that is, you know, more versatility of what bigs
you can go to. Right We saw that they didn't
have a lot of those options in the playoffs and
there was certainly something that came back to bite them.
Nation one Cavs asks, what are your expectations for Ricky
Rubio and Ti Jerome? Who will be the first point
guard off the bench?

Speaker 2 (12:36):
Carter, Well, my answer right now is Ricky and I'm
not particularly I don't think there's a particularly good chance
it's Ti Jerome. However, if the Fever World Cup goes
really rough for Ricky and he's not playing well, and
you know, we kind of see the the zip still is.

(12:57):
He's struggling to still get the zip back. I think there,
I think the door is open. I don't think I
think Ricky's spot is the backup point guard is written
in pencil, not pen But what I would actually say is,
if Ricky isn't a guy that they want in their
opening day rotation, I still don't think Ty Jerome is

(13:18):
going to be in there. I think they're gonna play
more Donnie at the one. I think they're gonna play
more Keras at the one. One thing that's nice about
Max Struce being on the team now is you have
a little bit more flexibility there to to move Caras
up without losing wing production. So I think that Jerome,

(13:39):
even if Ricky isn't there, it might not get minutes
that that's my initial take.

Speaker 3 (13:45):
Your thoughts, yeah, I agree with them. As I get
very emotional with my answer, I agree with everything you
said there. I definitely think how the Wings perform in
camp is probably going to have an impact on this,
because the bicycle coral looks great and Max Strus looks
great and Kearris continues on the path he's on the

(14:05):
best path to get everybody the minutes they deserve, or
if you go out and you sign a wing that's
expecting minutes. Going back to the U break question, the
best way to do that might be playing Karris at
the one right and just really keeping a lot of
size there. Cavs had a lot of playmaking talent last year.
I think that's why they were able to at least
over the course of the regular season, generate good looks

(14:27):
despite not having tons of shooting. So I do think
that that's an option they can go back to.

Speaker 2 (14:32):
So I'm also to sorry to interrupt, but also to
note that the team's desire to play through Evan Mobley
a little bit more in the high post. You don't
need a conventional point guard as much if you're going
to be using a hub elsewhere. Ye, So just thought
that was also worth noting.

Speaker 3 (14:50):
That's that's a really smart point. So yeah, we'll see
how Ricky looks. Ricky seems to be are one example
or one Cavalier to follow through the World Cup, so
we'll be tuned in there. But yeah, well, I don't
know if either would get prioritized in the opening day rotation.
We'll have to see how that all shakes out. And
that kind of ties into what Jesse Boring was asking

(15:12):
as well, which is, if Rubio plans to retire in
the next year or two, would it be better to
trade him this offseason for a longer term piece, to
see if he can run the bench well again like
he did before he got injured. I wouldn't jump the
gun on this. I think there's a value of having
Ricky on the court. Obviously, you have to see how
he looks. I don't think Ricky's presence in the locker

(15:32):
room would hold up a deal, though, Like if he
was necessary to get somebody to Cavs view as a
long term piece, I think that's something Kobe would probably
pull the trigger on. But I don't think you trade
him just to trade him. There's just there's already so
much depth there, and I think when you're looking at
a longer term piece at that position, even someone like

(15:52):
Craig Porter Junior on the two way contract, right, and
the presence of Tai Jerom and having Karis Laverna and
Donovan Mitchell and Darius Garland, so many so much ball
handling talent already that I think there is a value
to having that veteran presence around and hoping that he
can bounce back.

Speaker 2 (16:09):
I'm gonna go even wider and just say, I just
don't think that's how being a front office decision maker works.
I just don't think teams are like often looking to
like swap back up point guards for value. Like that's
just like you just don't see a lot of transactions
like that, Like frankly, like.

Speaker 3 (16:28):
It's a Dynasty Fantasy football mindset, right.

Speaker 2 (16:32):
So like I just you know, like I don't want
to like disregard the question. It's certainly possible that like
Rubio could be involved in it, he could be involved
in a deal tomorrow. I don't know, But like I
just don't think, like I don't think most front offices
are going around and thinking like okay, like they're not
going into two K and opening up the trade finder
and selecting each player and seeing what's available. I just

(16:54):
so like I just don't know if that's the way
they're operating, even even if they were interested in moving on.
So like that, I think I'm going to slightly reject
the question, Yeah, as respectfully as one can, and from
a contract standpoint, you probably would have more value next
offseason as well, right where the Calves are going to
once again be reevaluating their needs.

Speaker 3 (17:16):
And looking for opportunities to improve the team. So yeah,
I think if something were to come along now, it
wouldn't surprise me if Kobe pulled the trigger, just because
that's one of the few kind of non essential matching
salaries that they have. But I do think that there's
a value to having them. From the discord, Carter Drew asked,
I tell you right now that someone under contract to

(17:37):
the Cavs who doesn't play a minute on opening Night
is part of the playoff rotation. Who would it be?

Speaker 2 (17:47):
I think, well, this is a two part question that
is mass creating as a one part question, because first
you've got to figure out who's not going to play
on Opening Night.

Speaker 3 (17:57):
He's always got an angle with these questions.

Speaker 2 (17:59):
Oh I know, I like, I'm going Dean Wade. I
don't think Dean's going to be in the rotation to start,
and I think that just looking up and down the roster,
he's the guy who has the best, who showed a
ton last year and showed something that none of the
Cavs offseason additions really addressed like his two way play

(18:21):
at the three to four swing is different than what
Niang brings. He's switchier and a little smaller than what
the mobile Allen front court brings. So I just feel
like if he has that bounce back year and he's
fully healthy and he shows kind of looked kind of
like how he looked in the first month of the season,

(18:41):
then I feel like he's the best candidate to be
that guy on this roster, assuming he's out of the
rotation on opening night, which he might not.

Speaker 3 (18:50):
Yeah, it's very possible. I think he's the correct answer,
just because I think there continues to be if there
is a need from a death standpoint, it's still in
the front court, right Like, it's still big men depth
that are able to defend and stretch the floor, and
Dean Wade does that in theory. The other name I
would add to this would be Ty Jerome, just because

(19:13):
you know, having a six or five playmaker, that's something
that could be valuable. And I could see as the
season progresses him earning an opportunity and maybe them finding
ways to utilize him. So he would be.

Speaker 2 (19:26):
If I really, if I really wanted to rile people
up I'd say Imani baits, but I don't actually believe it.

Speaker 3 (19:32):
That's that's fair. I think I think it's a little
ways away. But who knows. Maybe it's Damian's Jones. Maybe
he turns into our R Miles Turner.

Speaker 2 (19:40):
Maybe Stretch five baby, all sample sized theater doesn't bother me.

Speaker 3 (19:46):
Empire reacts asks where do you see the gas finishing
in the standings? And would it be disappointing if they
aren't top four?

Speaker 2 (19:55):
Yes, it would be disappointing. You don't want to be
worse season overseason when your team got better, and you
know it's not like the team is particularly healthy last year.
It's a team that, after drawing a tough matchup in
the first round, is probably probably like a little more
control over their own destiny. It's a team that should

(20:16):
be a little disappointed with how the season ended, and
like the only the only thing I'll continue to couch
this with is the idea that the only way, if
they're healthy, that I don't think they should be up
here is if JB is playing some three D chess
with his rotations and doing stuff that cost them winning
regular season games in pursuit of being more playoff ready

(20:40):
right in the ways that maybe I don't understand yet.
Maybe it's letting crunch time minutes to a player who
otherwise wouldn't get them, or I don't know what it is,
but that's the only real road where I see this, because,
like you look at their metrics last year, they weren't
a particularly lucky team on either end of the ball
where you go, oh, there's a there's a key, there's
the thing to look for for major regression.

Speaker 3 (21:02):
They weren't a healthy team.

Speaker 2 (21:04):
They weren't particually healthy. So like I just I think
they should be as good as last year, if not better.
They underperformed their net rating from a win loss standpoint.

Speaker 3 (21:15):
Make a prediction, Cowarter, where let's see.

Speaker 2 (21:17):
Oh, I think I think you're gonna finish second. Ah, God,
you went hurt.

Speaker 3 (21:23):
I was going to say third with the possibility a second.
You went bolder than me. I love it. Yeah, it
would be disappointing. Honestly, it would be disappointing if they
didn't win a playoff series. Like, I think that should
be the expectation, and we said it last year. The
best way to guarantee that you win a playoff series
is finishing well in the regular season. Giving yourself an earlier,

(21:43):
easier matchup didn't age completely well because an eight seed
did make the NBA Finals. So sure, but I still
think my logic was sound there.

Speaker 2 (21:55):
By the way, I feel the need to hedge just
a little bit by saying that, I don't think the
Cavs are the second best team in the East. I
just think they have a really they are well constructed
to make that kind of push in their regular season.

Speaker 3 (22:09):
Yeah, this should be a very good regular season team,
and then we will see how they address those playoff concerns.
I mean, even looking at last year's regular season, right
if they would have caught Philly, which they came very
close to doing down the stretch, they would have caught Philly.
That means they played Brooklyn, which was a lottery team
kind of disguised as a playoff team. They were a

(22:30):
lottery winning percentage after those trades, as well as Mikhail
Bridges played, and we probably would have seen the same
issues we saw against the Knicks come up in the
second round. I don't think it changes whether like that,
whether or not those issues were there. I think all
of that was there and it just happened earlier than

(22:50):
we would have liked to have seen. The only thing
that losing in the first round versus the second round
last year did is it just makes you feel a
little more uneasy, right, Like there is pressure and that's
something that you know that quote from Tim bond Temp's
today that's going around about Donovan Mitchell, like his assumption
within that and his logic was, I think the Kavs

(23:11):
are still likely to lose in the first round, so
therefore I think things will be bad. Like there's pressure
on both sides here to continue showing that we're on
the right path, that we are on the path to
become a contender, whether that goes into you know, convincing
Donald Mitchell to sign an extension or continuing to get
the buy in from the players like Darius Garland, Evan Mobley,

(23:34):
Jared Allen and everyone else on the roster. You want
to take that step forward. So I think having expectations
for this team based on how well they played last
year is completely reasonable. And I think despite the fact
they didn't make it out of the first round, I
think that I don't think that that limits my expectations
for next year. I think this should be a second
round team at least, and I think we should see

(23:56):
them take a big step forward.

Speaker 2 (23:58):
Absolutely, Buddy, a good team. They should. They should be
really disappointed with how the playoffs went, and I I
think they are going there they should be expected to respond.

Speaker 3 (24:10):
Totally agree. keV Crowley asks, when do you think the
Cavs plan to move mobile to the full time five?
What kind of moves do they need to make the
make that happen. Carter, I'll let you go first, because
you know I'm gonna rant about this.

Speaker 2 (24:24):
I'm still in no hurry. I still think as we
see this league continue to push these supersized jumbo fours
UH to the forefront. I mean, when Bin Yama chat
Holmgren Yannis, you're gonna need big, big, sturdy front lines

(24:46):
to help UH deal with that. And I don't think
that I have not yet been presented with the with
the four to pair with Evan that would make that
kind of adjustment worthwhile that it seems gettable. So like,

(25:07):
I think there are other center archetypes that like if
you're if you're, if you're not interested in being in
the Jared Allen business anymore, which I still am. I
still would like to see him respond to the postseason. Again,
he's also a young player still, Yeah, and uh, and
I think there's a lot of scheme stuff that also,
you know, made it a little harder on him than then,

(25:31):
you know, in an already suboptimal matchup. However, if you
are in the business, I would say that I would
be trying to find a stretch five to play next
to Evan before I went full down shift because the
league is getting bigger and bigger, and this isn't like
nineties bigs when you had guys who were just there

(25:53):
to bruise and you know, bring their lunch pail to work.
Like every one of these new age bigs has a bag.
They have skills, and you're gonna need to You don't
want to be guarding Victor women Yhama with a guy
who's six ' eight, No, you just don't. So I
feel like looking at the direction of the league and
just the way I like the way I watch Evan

(26:15):
Mobley play, where I love watching him as a free
safety a lot more as the hard anchor of the defense.
I just think there's a lot of reasons that I
would keep him at the four long term, even if
Jared Allen is not your long term five, which he
is for me.

Speaker 3 (26:29):
Yeah, I agree with that. I think no matter what,
I would like to keep him at power forward, Like
even players within his archetype, right, Kevin Garnett played at
the four, Tim Duncan played a lot at the four
and had Thiago Splitter and you know, place holder Biggs.
And maybe that's the way that this goes if Jared
Allen isn't part of the long term, right, Like, maybe

(26:49):
it's the Jared Jackson junior role where you have someone
like Steven Adams that eats some minutes there and he
plays back up five as well. But that's that's the
situation we're currently in, right, Like I when we were
talking about the minute layout earlier, if Allen's playing thirty
and Mobiley's playing thirty four, he's probably going to play
more minutes at center than he is at power forward.

(27:09):
And I just think in terms of saving his body,
the wear and tear, the ability to use what makes
him special defensively, right, which is being able to switch
on to guys. We talked about how much he guarded
primary initiators last season. He's not able to do that
if he's just sticking at the rim right and just
being that rim protector. It's why Draymond Green, even though

(27:31):
they had the death lineup that they went to, you
still had Andrew Boga, You still had traditional centers that
ate a lot of those minutes at the five.

Speaker 2 (27:39):
How good Kevon Looney was right for that roster the
last two years.

Speaker 3 (27:43):
Right, And I still firmly believe that Mobley and Allen
works well together offensively. They were still.

Speaker 2 (27:50):
Mobley just needs to play better basketball. If you're spooked
from the postseason, I think you know, it's funny, like
sometimes we're so eager to hold players accountable and then
sometimes we're like, we don't want to talk about that.
It's like Mobiley had a really bad offensive series, like
he has a good offensive series. I think a lot
of the narratives are different.

Speaker 3 (28:09):
Yeah, I think you could make an argument that, like
one of the biggest on core point of failures when
it came to the offensive breakdown was how badly Mobiley
struggled as a role man, right, like the points per
possession in those situations when of the bread and butter
plays for the Cavs that was on him. It wasn't
like he was being guarded so tightly either. Right, it
was Mitchell Robinson sagging off of him and saying, I

(28:31):
dare you to do that floater you've been doing all year.
I dare you to make kind of quick decisions in
those spots. And that's part of why I feel confident,
because I think Evan Mobley is the type of guy
that responds to those type of things, right, like regular
season setbacks. We even saw where he just wasn't happy
with his performance that we got into the gym. At
another level, this is guy that's twenty two damn years old,

(28:54):
and he's already in the conversation for Defensive Player of
the Year and will be probably for at least like
the next decade because he's that type of talent. I'm
not worried about him, but you're right, like, I think
pointing that out is important, and I think for me
at least, that's a major reason for optimism.

Speaker 2 (29:12):
Absolutely, buddy, Yeah, give me, give me my guy. Jareded.
I think I'm excited for a Jared Allen season. I
think I think he's gonna turn some heads.

Speaker 3 (29:23):
Don't hold it. But before we move on, I don't
hold it against Jareded that he was honest about the
Cavs not being ready for the moment, because it was
pretty obvious that a lot of those guys were not
ready for the moment. Bobally included Mitchell made similar comments about,
you know, kind of being rattled by the MSG playoff
atmosphere and that sort of thing. Jared Allen being secure
enough to be honest about that isn't a minus in

(29:45):
my book.

Speaker 2 (29:46):
Absolutely not. Buddy. Tony Pasta, another podcaster, asked thoughts on
the FOBA team. I would have liked to see a
few Calves on the roster, but I'm assuming they turned
it down. Well, we don't know about that, but I'll
tell you what, so would I, Tony. Yeah, I don't
want to do August. I don't want to I don't
want to do weekly mail bags.

Speaker 3 (30:08):
Man. I wanted some Cavs basketball to talk about. I
know Fiodor mentioned that Jared Allen did get an invite
to this. I think you can safely assume, uh that
that a lot of players turned down those invites at.

Speaker 2 (30:21):
Least got reached out to. You would imagine, Yeah.

Speaker 3 (30:24):
I think I think those are fair assumptions and they're
just focusing on next season. My thoughts on the FOBA
team is might be food for Team Canada.

Speaker 2 (30:34):
Car Oh wow, wow, you.

Speaker 3 (30:37):
Know it's just weak enough.

Speaker 2 (30:38):
This is what people can forget, is that you you
that you are. You are not rooting for these boys.

Speaker 3 (30:44):
I would be rooting man. That would be tough, that
would be very No. I'd be rooting for them in
all games that weren't against Canada. But we we do
have the best at court in the tournament, without a doubt.
Shake Gila, Alexander and Jamal Murray, got Argie Bart, we
got lots of depth. Andrew Wiggins didn't show up. That's disappointing.
But outside of the Biggs, I think we're cooking.

Speaker 2 (31:06):
Carter, your team is awesome. I you know, it's funny
the first couple Team USA announcements came out and it
was like, I don't know about this one, guys, But
you know, I thought Grant Hill, who I believe is
now putting the team together, at least in charge. I
don't don't hold against me if I'm wrong. I think
you put together a really nice roster of up and comers.

(31:27):
Normally you get at least two or three Elder statesmans
that kind of are the anchors for the team. You
don't really have that here. I think the oldest player
might be Josh Hart and Bobby Portis at twenty eight.
This is a young group, but they make a lot

(31:47):
of sense. Halberton and Brunson at a point edwards at
the two, Mikeyle Bridges at the three. Plow is going
to be a bruiser. Ingram at the three as well,
another really nice player. They've got shop blocking and Jaron
Jackson Walker Kessler. They can up shift with those guys
at the four and the five, they can downshift and
get a little switchy. I think it's a really nice team.

(32:10):
I think I think that they are built to play
an esthetically pleasing rate of basketball. You have specialists, you
have apex predator athletes, you have switchable defense, you have
rim protection. They're just really young and a team's full
of thirty year olds. Like I know that you know
these guys. It's not exactly like a college team out here,

(32:32):
but like it's still a really young group compared to
some of the teams they're going to be playing against.
So I think you have to still predict Gold and
I love FIBA basketball. I'm really geeked for this, even
though no calves are playing, but like it's going to
be a challenge, and like you know, like Walker Kessler
is going to get bodied by some some surly Eastern

(32:53):
European he's never heard of before, at least once or twice.
And that's just the way it goes in these in
these competitions.

Speaker 3 (33:00):
Yeah, you're right, it is a roster that makes sense.
And you know what, no, what else makes sense? Carter
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(33:20):
Zoom how the world can nax? Carter kaz Lick asks
rank your top things that need to happen for the
Cavs to win a championship in the next five years.
Examples he gave us Evan Mobley becoming a top five player,
Garrius Grohlin becoming a top ten trading for another star,
adding elite role players. Give me, give me two. If
you had to think two things that are incredibly important

(33:43):
for the Calves or need to happen for them to
win a championship in the next five years.

Speaker 2 (33:47):
What are they Mobley's got to be a top twelve player,
and I think DG has got to flirt with all
NBA every year. I feel like, I don't think this
team is currently constructed. Maybe I'm wrong, but I don't
see a best player in the league type ceiling on

(34:10):
anyone on this roster currently. And when you don't have that,
you got to have like three or four top thirty,
top forty guys. You have to kind of star player
amalgamation your way to you know, the exponential value of
having a NICOLEA. Jokich. And you know, I'm not saying

(34:31):
you have to be like the Pistons, because I think
their top end talent is you know, those zero four Pistons.
I think their top end talent is really, really, really good.
And you know, I don't think those Pistons at the
time were considered to have a top twenty player.

Speaker 3 (34:44):
I think they might well should have got that. Love though.

Speaker 2 (34:47):
Yeah, so I love she, but you know I think
that that is a that is probably the road they
have to get those kind of guys there, and probably
like it, it's hard in championship. You probably also need
to find one more elite role player.

Speaker 3 (35:04):
Yeah, what do you think? You definitely need to get lucky.
I I'll definitely agree that. I think Darius needs to
get in that all NBA conversation. I think he needs
to be in the conversation with with Donnie. You know
which is more impactful in all that. If that's a conversation,
we're in a really great place. Assuming it comes from
Darius taking a step forward and not Mitchell to get
a step back. I will say I think if Darius

(35:29):
gets to that level, I think they could potentially win
a championship before Evan Mobley is their best player. Like
I think Evan Mobley has that kind of ceiling, but
I think he could be a high impact like Kawhi
type guy, Like when Kawhi won with the Spurs. You know,
he was averaging fewer points per game in the NBA
Finals than Igodala did in twenty fifteen against US, right,

(35:51):
Like it was fourteen points per game. Lebron still scored
a lot. You felt his impact there and you're in
that finals MVP, but he wasn't the best player on
the team yet at that point, I think you could
see that if both Garland and Mitchell are playing at
that all NBA level. I do still think Mobley has
the highest ceiling on this team, and I think ultimately

(36:12):
what this team can become revolves around him being the
best player. I don't think that necessarily means a leading scorer, though,
but Garland needs to be that kind of guy, and
I think Mobile does need to take a big step forward.
Like I don't think the version of Evan Mobiley we've
seen to this point, what I said before is not true.

(36:32):
If that's the Evan Mobiley that we have, right, like,
he needs to take that step forward. You need to
have him as a front court option, as a hub
that can generate some playmaking, even just in that three
to four assist range, right like that kind of bam
out of biozone where a lot runs through him. But
he's not out there getting ten assists like he's Jokic.
I don't think he's that level of passer. And he's

(36:53):
playing with one of the best shock creation point guards
in the league in Darius Garland, right, So I think
just having that as an option to keep defense as
honest and having him as that hub is essential for
beating playoff defense.

Speaker 2 (37:08):
Absolutely, buddy, I'm skipping down to our boy Vinny, who
is a volume shooter with this one factor fiction rapid
fire justin.

Speaker 3 (37:17):
Do you want to go through this and I'll give
my answers.

Speaker 2 (37:22):
Absolutely, all right. Evan Mobley voted All Star Fiction fiction act,
no screw it. Fact, Donny makes first team All NBA
Fact fiction. Max Drew shoots thirty eight percent or better
on threes this year.

Speaker 3 (37:39):
I'm feeling I'm looking at my crystal ball thirty seven
point six, So I'm going to say fiction.

Speaker 2 (37:44):
I will say fiction as well. Kris LeVert becomes our
legitimately are legitimate backup point guard.

Speaker 3 (37:50):
I'm gonna say fiction, but I'd like it to be fact.

Speaker 2 (37:54):
I will echo you there. Isaac Okorro starts the season
starting at small forward fiction fiction as well. It's gonna
be strused by all reports. George Niang plays at least
twenty minutes a game.

Speaker 3 (38:07):
Oh, I'm gonna say fact.

Speaker 2 (38:10):
I'm gonna say fact too. Darius Garland takes nine threes
a game.

Speaker 3 (38:16):
Please please, please DG, please make this be fact. I'm
going to say fact because I believe in him.

Speaker 2 (38:23):
Fact I'm gonna, I'm gonna, I'm gonna join you with
a wishful fact. But deep in my deep, in my
my gut, I think it's fiction. Jared Allen finished his
top five in Defensive Player of the Year voting.

Speaker 3 (38:37):
I will say it is fact that he should be
that high because I think he has that kind of impact.
I'm gonna say fiction because Mobile's going to get the credit.
I think we saw that last year, even with the
all defensive teams yep. I think I think it is
going to be functionally impossible for Jared to get a
fair shake on all defensive voting and in Defensive Player

(38:57):
of the Year, especially since like that's such a loaded
category right now, Like like, are you are you gonna
edge up Bam out of Bayo for Jared Allen?

Speaker 2 (39:06):
Like you know you're gonna edge out Yiannis? Like it's
just too warm. Yeah, there's too many good players in
that position. So I think any splitting of the votes
is going to go anyone who's just not sure they're
gonna pick Evan and like, I just don't see it.
At least smart actor, fiction, great, great producing Venny.

Speaker 3 (39:26):
That's what we like to that's what we like it
about a mail bag. Yeah, I like that as a
segment a lot. At least Smart won't be in the
conversation anymore because Boston.

Speaker 2 (39:34):
Media won't be voting for him, thank god.

Speaker 3 (39:39):
James Baker asks, perhaps when DG is resting, do you
expect more offensive sets to be run through Evan like
they did with Isaiah during Summer League? Where does Jared
Allen's presence presevent that bros And Collins of putting Evan
in that position? I will say, right on the front end,
I think Evan and Darius are going to be paired together.
I think when you stagger, we saw that work tremendously

(40:02):
well last year. But I still think you run offensive
sets through Evan in those spots you always you don't
want him to be the sole playmaker on the court,
And honestly, I don't think with the Cavs roster construction,
I don't think it's possible to put five men out
there where he would be the sole creator, at least
in a way that makes sense, just because they do
have so much playmaking talent around them. But I think

(40:25):
you still do run offense through him, and I saw
that Darius was one of the most efficient players when
it came to off screen action last year, and I
expect him to be used in those ways. I think
when you're with the second unit as well, you might
see Isaac o Korro in there as a cutter. You'll
probably have George Niang out there as someone spotting up cavs.

(40:45):
You ran a lot of Spain sets and I expect
them to continue to do so. Using mobilely in those sets.
I think is going to be a way for them
to generate a lot of good looks with the added
shooting talent that they have.

Speaker 2 (40:59):
Yes, I agree, I don't have much to end. I
think that I think they are going to use that.
Even with DJ on the floor, they're going to play
with Evan at the high post. I think he's going
to keep developing as a ball handler and a creator,
and those developments are really important. Like you know, we
talked about where they were going to land in the standings,

(41:20):
and I talked about the idea that maybe they might
do some stuff that's a little counterproductive to winning because
they're trying to develop some playoff stuff. I would say
some Evan mobiley adventures in the high post where he's
trying stuff and getting a little ambitious would qualify as
one of those things, and so I would love to

(41:40):
see it. I think they should do those sorts of
things because we saw that, you know, the lack of offensive
diversity that the Cavs had really mess them up. And
if Mobiley can operate in the middle of the floor
as a creator, I think it'll be a lot easier
for Darius to punish when teams over commit, try to
bully him, try to try to overplay pin downs, because

(42:03):
he can just slip right back and get a nice
lay up with a nice feed from Mobois. So that's
what I would like to see, and I think that's
the plan.

Speaker 3 (42:12):
Yeah, No, I completely agree with that. I'm excited to
see how Evan gets used. I think keeping it in
that three to four assist range that that's a really
healthy target. That's been where BAM's been at and I'm
just curious to see what the implications are for that
in terms of cast pace, in terms of their three
point shooting, just everything. I think there's gonna be a

(42:34):
lot of interesting ripple effects there.

Speaker 2 (42:37):
Absolutely, Buddy, Chris, Yeah, I'm taking it. What would a
more concerted effort by Darius Garland to draw fouls at
the rim slash the refs giving him the calls he
deserves do for him as a player.

Speaker 3 (42:50):
Well, I'm glad that Chris took the petty with a
little side comment because that would be something that I
would complain about. I'm very interested to see how foul
drawn goes in general, just with the new anti flopping
rules where refs are able to make that call in
real time with guys throwing their head back and whatnot.
I guess it's a benefit that the Calves didn't live

(43:11):
off of that, so it's not something that they have
to remove from their games. I think it's worth noting
that Garland's free throw rate, which is you know a
number of times that or a percentage of times that
you shoot free throws per field goal attempted I went
up from twenty point five two years ago to twenty
eight point four, which is a big jump, an eight

(43:32):
percent increase in terms of how often he got to
the line. But it is funny to look at how
many drives per game Garland has, which he was sixth
in the NBA, and what the free throw rate is
compared to other guys in that mix. You have shake
Gil just Alexander. His free throw rate was fifty three
point five. Insane.

Speaker 2 (43:51):
John Moray rift City, a sneaky I know he's a countryman, justin,
but a sneaky grifter in the and the pantheon of grifting.

Speaker 3 (44:02):
There's I have no defense for him, and neither do
defenders when he's drifting like that. John Morant forty point nine,
Luca forty seven point nine, Brunson thirty two point eight,
which is probably the closest to Garland in terms of
guys that drive mornum and then trade crazy.

Speaker 2 (44:19):
By the way, it feels like he gets a lot
more calls than that.

Speaker 3 (44:22):
Yeah, yeah, but maybe that's, you know, an example of
just what a five percent increase would mean for Garland's
game getting up to that, because I think that's a
little more realistic than in getting up to like the
tray level of forty six or or even dam who's
behind Garland at forty six point four. I do think
when you look at that though, like a lot of

(44:43):
these guys like Brunson and Luca physical guys right like
they initiate contact. It's really obvious when when you see
them draw that contact. John Morant, he's so long chased
so long that that contact really kind of becomes more
obvious and then Tray of course war crimes. Right. But
when it comes to Garland, I do think him getting

(45:05):
stronger will have a positive impact, right because if he's
more kind of on balance going up into the defender,
that contact is going to become more obvious for the official.
And I think there's ways for him to improve there.
But overall, I don't expect him to be a high
free throw rate player because he's someone that's looking to
make the shot. But I do think in terms of

(45:25):
him getting himself stronger, really kind of recognizing that he
can maintain position and establish position, maintain it and recognize
this is my spot in the paint, rather than you know,
being courteous and going around a defender and you're flipping
up a layup and whatnot. Right Like, I think that
type of approach for him would do him a lot

(45:46):
of good and it helps prevent how many lumps you take, right.
I think the two impacts of him increasing his free
throw rate would be a percentage at the rim would
go up, because I think a lot of the misses
there's contact and he's just not doing a good enough
job of selling that contact. And I think it also
just helps him be more durable. If he's not off

(46:08):
balance trying to avoid the defender and getting clipped in
the air, he's going to have more controlled landing. So
I think those are the two ripple effects for that.

Speaker 2 (46:16):
I have no I have nothing to add. I thought
that was a great answer. You actually did your research.
I loved it. It was it was very well done.
So I'm just going to keep moving. Ron Jetty asked,
how would you guys evaluate the first season of our
backcourt and what strides do you want to see Darius
and Donovan make as a duo. I'll take this one
since you got to monologue the last time. You know,

(46:39):
I think ultimately they had a great first season. You know,
Darius's numbers held steady, Donovan had a career best year.
It's hard to grade at anything other than an A.
So I'm gonna get a little nitpicky, and I'll talk
about late game execution, which I know is going to
be part of our next question. I the only time

(47:00):
I felt like they got into a your turn my
turn was in crunch time. You know, there were you know,
Donovan would definitely kind of take over. He was He
definitely kind of had first DIBs on the possession most
of the time. And I think he you know, and
I think he did an admirable job in that role.
And you know, every now and again he would kind

(47:20):
of defer to Darius and then Darius would kind of
go and try to take a shot. I didn't see
a lot of them setting each other up in crunch
time last year. And this is the anecdotal. I don't
have stats in front of me because I don't do
work like Justin actually does to make the show good.
But like I do feel like that was the one spot,
like when you have gripes with how the team's offense

(47:41):
performed in the clutch. I do think it was just
a little bit of like, Okay, so I'm going to
iso this time, You're gonna ice h next time. And
it never felt like they were playing the same kind
of game they played the first three quarters, So that
would be my note. But curious about you pick up
the pace and oh yeah, go faster and I think faster.

Speaker 3 (48:01):
I think that ties into your point as well. I
think that's the very s dude to observation where I
do think they initiated so much later in the shot
clock that you weren't able to really run the offense
right the sets that the Cavs had to generate those
good looks of Darius and Donovan playing off of one another,
and even even having a guy like Max Strus I

(48:22):
think is going to make a big difference because he's
willing to take shots. Again, that's a late contest where
I think so frequently last year guys would pass up
those opportunities and dribble around. Then the hot potato goes
to Darius or Donovan and they're forced to create in
those spots. And I think even as the year went on,
Donovan's clutch numbers went down single season clutch numbers. It's

(48:43):
going to be really interesting to track this now that
there's an award for it. But the sample size is
so small on these that there is I don't know
how much stock you can put on the percentages themselves,
but I do think there's processed things in terms of
going too slow into those actions and you know, displaying
that you're turning my turn in those spots. I think

(49:05):
that's the type of stuff you look at it and
clutch performance really becomes more of an eye test thing
for me, and I think that was one of the
things that jumps out at the eye.

Speaker 2 (49:13):
Test absolutely, Buddy. In the YouTube chat, someone asked who
wins in a game of twenty one, the Chase Down
duo or the lockdown Cavs duo? First off? First off,
the winner is the rim based on how much I've
played basketball lately. But I do think I do think

(49:35):
we would handle our business with that said.

Speaker 3 (49:38):
We would be tidy.

Speaker 2 (49:39):
We would be tidy, it would I think we I
think it would be an easy win where we're taller
by a lot. You know, just Justin played a little
high school ball. I played a little rec ball. I
got a little note for doctor Claw in the chat
who says, definitely chase down. Justin is a hooper. You know, Yes,

(50:02):
I'm chop Liver.

Speaker 3 (50:03):
Then, well, they saw your Cavs intro video, Carter. We all,
we all saw that video. That's fair, Yeah, we we
we got we got the heightened length advantage. You know,
in the world of podcasting, six to two goes a
lot further than it does on the backcourt because we
would be considered a small backcourt. Again, we would be there.

Speaker 2 (50:22):
We would be uh and uh. But yeah, I think
I think we would take care of our business. With all,
with all due respect to Chris and Evan, they're.

Speaker 3 (50:30):
Not getting shots off. They're not getting shots off, not
account not even in bad shape with with uh Sciattica
with a bum hip. I'm still waxing. My pride won't
let it happen.

Speaker 2 (50:41):
Can you still get rem justin.

Speaker 3 (50:43):
Oh God, I haven't tried. I'm maybe maybe, but I
have not tried.

Speaker 2 (50:49):
I've never joined that exclusive club. I'm a terrible jumper.

Speaker 3 (50:54):
Wesley Bowman asked, Garland has rightfully been getting a lot
of stat love for his playmaking, prowess and shooting talent.
But I've seen it point out that he's close to
the bottom of the league and clutch effective field goal percentage.
Could the next evolution of his game come in more
mentality than skill. I want to address this in two parts.

Speaker 2 (51:12):
One.

Speaker 3 (51:13):
Obviously, we talked about the clutch numbers. He was twenty
one of sixty two on clutch shots low. But again,
if three or four of those shots going instead of out,
that's a totally different percentage. Right when you're dealing with
such a small sample size. I do think the next
evolution of his game comes in mentality more than skill.
I think, no hall, no way, having the know all

(51:36):
to go out there and execute the know how, know how.
Thank you. I can't talk you, okay, dude, it's been
such a long day. It's been such a long day.
But having just the experience to go out there and execute.
We talked about it before when we were talking about
his ceiling of you know, making those reads just a
half second sooner, just the knowledge of what defenses are

(52:00):
going to throw at him, not getting caught in traps.
I do think mentality and experience is the biggest part
of where we're going to see evolution in his game,
because he already has such a complete game. I mean,
I've been loving all the stat love b Ball Index
had him was the only three and d Cavalier Carter.

(52:21):
They also have been giving him credit for his off
ball play, on ball play, one of the best shot
creators in the game. Darius is a really complete player already.
So I think the evolution comes in mentality. I just
don't think that the you know, not built for the
clutch type thing or anything like that that doesn't carry
a lot of weight for me. I think even seeing

(52:42):
how he responded to that tough game against the Knicks,
or even a tough first half against the Knicks in
the playoffs, and the way that he came out on fire.
I think back to that playing game against Brooklyn. He
was phenomenal in a hostile environment. I just I don't
think that this is a guy that's scared of the moment.

(53:02):
And that's the most important thing to me.

Speaker 2 (53:04):
Yeah, I think, like we kind of already answered the
question in the last one, which is that, Like I
do think he's they've got if they if they get
into their sets a little faster in the clutch, he'll
have a little bit more optionality. You know, his ISO
numbers are not particularly impressive, Like he's not one of
the more efficient ISO scorers in the league. And I

(53:25):
think one of the byproducts of them dribbling the clock
down to thirteen on every single clutch possession is that
he has to go iceo more and like that's just
not the number one skill of his game. He's cutting
himself off at the knees a little bit. So I
do think that the clutch. I don't think the clutch
is just luck. I do think it's a byproduct of
he dribbles himself into some tough outcomes because the court

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is just not really built for him to succeed. I
am very interested to see, however, how some of those
numbers look on a properly spaced floor. You know, he
was really dribbling into traffic with the exception of the
guy guarding Donovan Mitchell, almost every time he was attacking
in the clutch, and he might still be doing that,

(54:10):
but then he'll get to kick it out to a
wide open Max Truce or something like that in the corner.
So you know, I think that I'm interested to see
how some of those numbers change with a court that's
better built to accommodate him on the offensive end.

Speaker 3 (54:24):
Yeah, I think we're both in full agreement that they
just need to up the pace a little bit, especially
in those situations. And it's so funny to look at
like the difference in pace across the league, like it's
three possessions three possessions more, and all of a sudden,
you're at like thirteen when it comes to pace, which

(54:45):
really over a forty eight minute game could be just
a couple threes in transition that you weren't taking before right,
Like it's a small fix, but it can make a big,
big difference in terms of the league standing. And I'm
interested to see if quick trigger guys like Mac Strews
in George Niang they kind of roll off, get out
there and take those shots. I think that's going to

(55:06):
have an impact on the cast pace. But I do
think when you talk about where the guards need to improve,
I think it is on Donovan and Darius to up
the pace in those situations.

Speaker 2 (55:17):
Absolutely, buddy, Absolutely, Carter asks can I get sixty seconds
to Sea Bears? Oh?

Speaker 3 (55:24):
Baby? Can you ever start the club? All right? Carter?
It was an up and down week for a beloved
Sea Bears. As you no doubt remember, Winnipeg beat Calgary
at home one hundred to seventy five in their last matchup,
but they had to go out on the road out
west to complete the second half of the home at home.
This was a pivotal matchup as it would decide the
winner of the tiebreaker as the race for the top
seed in the Western Conference winds down. Unfortunately, Winnipeg fell flat,

(55:47):
did not have the juice in this matchup, as Seemi
she too for Calgary put up a dominant thirty two
points and fifteen rebound performance. Winnipeg went on to beat
Vancouver in their last matchup. But I'm going to zoom
right past this and go off script card because I
just figured out how playoffs work in the CEBL. The
host city for the conference finals and finals gets an

(56:08):
automatic buye to the conference finals, So it doesn't matter
that Winnipeg and Calgary of the top season the West.
Vancouver gets a pass to the conference finals. Winnipeg will
host a home playoff game, but we don't know if
it's going to be a plan or if it's going
to be Round one. Winnipeg needs to win their last
game of the season, which is at home against Edmonton.
I don't care about the buzzer. I'm ranting. I'm off script.

(56:29):
They have to win their last game of the season
to get the number one seed and a buye. Avoid
the plan. I'm just annoyed that the host city host
city gets an automatic pass to the conference finals. Ridiculous
to me.

Speaker 2 (56:44):
Carter justin, I'm sorry, and you know this is this
is your first failure, this is their first it's your
first time not getting it.

Speaker 3 (56:51):
I went off script, I said, I don't care.

Speaker 2 (56:54):
You had a real eye for justice is what you had.

Speaker 3 (56:57):
I did, and you know, at the end of the day,
I I'm a champion of justice and fairness and I
knew I stopped writing my script at that point. I
was going on script. I was going over the buzzer
because I'm that outraged. I needed to make my point.

Speaker 2 (57:11):
Well earned and CUVL. When they listen to the spot,
they're gonna know the degree to which they aired.

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