BS #3

Jenn is going in for her third brain surgery and they guys wonder if she will come out a Cyborg.

Episode Transcript

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Good morning, good afternoon, good evening.
Whenever you are welcome to two men with a mic.
Good morning my friend. Good morning.
How's it going tire? Well, had better days, but it's
what's what's going on? Well, today or today when this

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episode airs, it's going to be Jen's third brain surgery.
Oh no. So yeah, we're going in for BS
#3. Dude, what are they going to do
now? Complete the Cyborg

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transformation. Oh, that's perfect.
Yeah. To our to our poor audience
member of one guy bashing his head against the wall on speed.
I am so sorry 'cause I keep likeforgetting what I'm saying.
And then like after we finished recording the show, I remember
like, oh, I was supposed that's why I brought that up.
I was supposed to say this so very quickly.

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I will say since Jen's getting turned into a Cyborg last week,
I mentioned the Alien TV show. Oh yeah.
Yeah, and the Alien TV show, like in the pilot, it it beats
you over the head with all of these things that a lot of
people would tell you are theoretically possible.

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Some some people are upset aboutit because they want to retain
their humanity and they don't want to be a Cyborg.
But yeah, in the pilot of Alien,it's like, OK, well here's stuff
we, you know, you can be turned into a Cyborg.
You can be turned into like a full blown robot.
You know, there are like three ways that people have like

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altered themselves to become immortal by sort of merging with
machines. So, so, you know, there's the,
the layer of that where it's just sort of a fun sci-fi show
to watch and so be it. But I, I will say there are
people in the world who say these technologies exist and
they're very afraid of them because they think that we're

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basically gonna be absorbed by AAI hive mind and we'll be like
little automatons like you're like.
Cyborgs. Yeah, That's, that's, you know,
that's true to a point, you know, it is.
I mean, I'm, I'm grateful for itbecause, you know, like I said,

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you know, my wife is heading outthis morning for, for, for brain
surgery, right? And, and to a point they're
going to do what you're saying to, you know, help her live a
happy, healthy, normal life. So it's a big catch 22.

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It really is. You know, I'm worried about the
surgery and, and, and all that. And you know, I love you very
much, Jen. And you know, I'm for you at
your side the whole time. And I'll be right there with you
when you go to sleep and when you wake up.
We had to. We had to go yesterday and shave

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her head, so yeah. Well, wait, so, So what are they
going to do this time though? Are they going to put like,
like, is she really going to be a Cyborg?
Like they're putting in some kind of machinery or something.
Yeah, yeah, it's, I don't know, they always mess the word up,
but it's basically they're putting in a drain in their

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brain that is can be what kind of not, not Wi-Fi remotely, but
like if you going to the doctors, they can, they can put
a machine next to it and adjust it if they need to.
But it's just, it's just a, a, adrain, a pressure drain because

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she's got she's her body, her brain, whatever she produces too
much spinal fluid. And so the pressure, because she
has too much spinal fluid is in her brain is like brain freeze,

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you know, so it's, it's she's just in agonizing pain and, and
all that constantly. So they have to go in and
they're going to have to, you know, open up her skull and do
some things and then that will relieve the pressure.

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Basically put a new pressure valve in and then she can feel
better after recovery, after some time recovering.
Obviously the surgery is going to be very painful afterwards.
It is. Well, I mean, I'm, you know, I
yeah, yeah. She's, it's going to take her a
week or so to recover from that.Is she going to stay in the

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hospital? Hopefully only overnight, you
know, just to make sure there's no leaks in the drain, make sure
the plumbing's good. Yeah, once they check the
plumbing and and all that, then then it's just healing.

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So yeah, but, but hopefully thisis the last one, you know?
Yeah. This, this should be everything
we were doing. This we this isn't a surprise.
Yeah, this was kind of always a part of the plan, so if
necessary, but she's exhausted all other possibilities.

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So yeah, this is this is it. So I love you, babe.
And I'll be right there with you, driving you all the way
through this BS. Gosh, I guess you perceived
every other option for treatmentso this is the only way.

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Well, I mean, technically she could go without it and then she
just, you know, if Can you imagine kind of living, you
know, most of your waking time with a brain.
Freeze. That sounds awful.
Yeah. So, yeah, it's not, you know,

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that's no way. So she's gonna, we're gonna get
this done, hopefully it, you know, And of course, the
doctors, well, you know, there'sno guarantee, you know.
Yeah, you know, that's always their disclaimer.
Or Jen. Yeah, so, well, she can watch

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that alien TV show if she ever see she's got something to watch
while she's recovering, she can watch it and she'll be thinking
like, I'm a Cyborg. Kid.

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Well, that's me. Yeah, I can really relate to the
show. I'm a Cyborg kid.
And the aliens are bald. You know none of them have hair,
right? Yes.
So what's up with that? You went to like a Barber shop
or a beauty shop and they totally shaved her head.
Yeah, yeah. You gotta take a picture of her

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do. You.
No, she doesn't want that out there.
Oh. Is he like really
self-conscious? Yeah.
Well, anybody would be. That's, yeah.
Most women don't, you know, likethe idea of being shaved, have
their head shaved, but they weregonna shave.
Half her head, really. Yeah, so then she would have
looked like that, like that chick on Furiosa.

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Oh, there you go. She's all pintruck, Jen.
Yeah, like the half of her hair on the half of her head.
Just dye that purple did. Yeah.
So yeah, she didn't want to looklike Furiosa.
So yeah, we well, we went to a beauty place and they were like,

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oh, we we don't do that. We just do scissor trims here.
You need to go to like, you know, a place that does more
like Barber. So to the.
Cyborg Center. Yeah.
So we drove. Around the corner to the Cyborg
Center, Center for haircuts. Oh, the Cyborg center.
They'll take that hair off like no problem.

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Yeah. So yeah, we went around and
they, you know, they were done in like 10 minutes.
Just put the zero on the. TC giver and niggy no under bald
head. You guys are a niggy under bald
head. No, our head's already.
Hurting dude. Oh OK, sorry, I'm sorry.

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Remember the niggy? Yeah, you.
Should grab someone and give them a niggy.
But yeah. Well, so we are all the children
of God and, and Jen is God's favorite child.
So I hear, I, I, I fear, so I feel she will be fine.

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Yeah, that's what I'm believing.Although it is scary, but I'm
I'm still believing that you know, she's gonna recover from
it fine and and and we'll go from there.
But yeah, she's gonna come out more Cyborg then she went in
wow. So she'll have a couple of

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electronic devices in her SO. What?
What are the? Devices like, well, she's got
the pacemaker and then and then now she says she's got something
to control her heart so her heart can live forever.
And then now she's got somethingthat can control her brain, the
drain in her brain. So, you know, I guess in theory,

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you know, they can, they can keep her going.
Yeah. So, yeah, I hope it works.
I I hope she'll get better. Yeah.
Should I? Should I tell you some?
No. Let's just leave it at that.
Thanks man. Yeah, no, yeah, we'll be fine,

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'cause God loves her so this is good and God loves you guys,
'cause. I love the same election.
So yeah, we'll be, we'll be heading heading the day this is
released on Tuesday. We'll be heading about 10:00 to
the hospital. Luckily, it's not like 5 AMI
hate those 5:00 AM starts. How long do they think it'll

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take? I don't know, there's two
surgeons in there, so I guess that's good in case one gets has
to go to the bathroom or something, you know, the other
one can keep going, but. Wait a minute, wait a minute,
potty break. I figured you'd tell me though,

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like you, you guys had to drive to some special center where
they do, you know? Well, he's a specialist, but
yeah, he works out of the, you know, one of the hospitals here
in San Francisco. Yeah.
I'm sure, Yeah, I'm sure. It'll be great.
I'm sure he's a good doctor. Yeah, they're all really nice
and caring and you know, the theICU that we were at last time in

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that other hospital was a fucking joke.
But we're not going back to that.
Jen asked to be have their procedure done at a different
hospital. Why was that one?
So bad they were just they were rude and and just wouldn't
listen to her or you know, care about what her concerns were and
she told them that she didn't feel right.

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And later on, it turned out whenwe reviewed her cardiac, you
know, her pacemaker notes and stuff like that, she had had an
episode, but they refused to listen to her or to do anything
and treated her, you know, like she was dumb and, and just just
really, really bad, bad ICU. Yeah, so sorry.

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Excuse me? We're not going back there.
That's. Good.
Yeah, that that kind of poor service seems to be rampant
these days. That we'll stay light.
We'll stay light. It's OK, she can wake up as a
Terminator and correct the issue.
Right, right. Exactly.

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But so is this going to be another thing where you're like
sitting there for 9 hours? Hopefully not.
I don't know how long it takes. They'll tell.
They usually tell us that when when, you know, like the morning
of, they say, OK, yeah, we should be done.
And you know, I would imagine it's at least two or three
hours. So does Jen have her lucky socks

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to wear and stuff? Yeah, she'll have all lucky
socks and lucky husband and you know, that's all you.
That's all you need. Yeah.
Yeah, and wow. Well, I just blessings to Jack
and blessings to you and your whole family, and I just really
hope this one works and this andyou guys can just put this this

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stuff behind you, you know? Yeah.
Start a new chapter with Cyborg Jen.
Cyborg Jen. That's gonna be fun, dude.
Yeah. A new episode in Alien.
She'll have that laser eye. Yeah.
She'll be all, you know, eating popcorn and watching the new
Alien TV show and and she wants to change the channel now since

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she's got an implant, she'll just think it and then the
little implant will like change the channel for her.
Yeah, yeah, they have those. I mean, they're that's a
technology. I think Musk, I think it's from
Elon Musk over here. But they've got one of those
working where they, I read an article about it about a month

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ago where it it worked. They put an implant in the
dude's brain and he can like communicate with the computer or
something. Before he couldn't, you know, he
was like, you know, like whatever, paralyzed or, you
know, whatever that is. Yeah, stuff.

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So now he can communicate or something like that.
ANYWAYS, that's out there. So yeah, there are.
Connectivity from the brain to acomputer is out there 100%.
Yeah. So yeah.
How about are Amber and Ashley going to be around or they're
all? Actually flying in the day of

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the surgery. So which is fine because you
know she's going to be, she's not going to be awake and and
all that stuff till you know, who knows when shouldn't even go
in till like noon, right. So by the time she wakes back up
and all that kind of stuff, actually I'll be there like the

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next day, so or something, or she'll come to the house.
What? You mean Amber, right?
No, Ashley's in New York with Amber for a vacation.
Oh, I think I, yeah, I think Amber put a picture up on.
Facebook and I clicked that I liked it or something so OK.

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And you can catch all her adventures on Amber and the
Apple on YouTube. Oh, right, right.
She's got a YouTube channel and I tried.
Everything's been so crazy busy.I have.
I was gonna check that all the time and I just haven't, I
haven't been able to, but. Well, that's cool.
So. And then Amber's kind of
wrapped. Up in school still or well,
yeah, she's got a job and she's got all of school and stuff like

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that so yeah, yeah, she'll be here at Christmas time and stuff
so. Oh, OK, cool.
Yeah, she'll be here for the holidays because she's teaching.
Amber's teaching part time at anelementary school.
Oh wow, great. For her, you know, just for

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extra money. So she teaches two or three days
a week, something like that. She's a teacher's aide.
Not yeah, she doesn't have her own class.
She's like a, you know, a teacher's aide in the, in the
kindergarten class. So.
OK, that's that's fine. Yeah, yeah, she likes it.
She likes it because they calledher Miss Amber.

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Miss Amber? Yeah.
And that was weird. I thought I heard the dog
whining and, you know, like one of the kids threw her a picture
and stuff like that. So she.
She really liked it. Oh, that's great.
That's perfect for her. Yeah.

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Yeah, it's gonna be fine. You guys are all gonna be fine.
She's gonna be fine. She's just gonna be mad because
they only made 8 episodes of that Alien series.
She doesn't know what her futurereally is.
Yeah, nothing is resolved when it ends.
So it's like, that's gonna be her biggest problem after the

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surgery did 'cause she'll be allhealed and everything will be
perfect. But then she's gonna be like,
what? There's only 8 episodes?
You know, I remember when they used to do 30 episodes a year,
OK. Now they, they come out with
eight episodes and they're like,Yep, that was season 1.
Like, wait a minute, that is thething that that changed.

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You know, I like back in the dayof like network TV and prime
time before cable and, and like everything changed.
So like they I I believe they would do between 20 and 30
episodes was. Considered as it ran the school
year. Yeah, the other.
Thing ran with the school year, and then in the summer everybody

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took summer vacation. Yeah.
And then the only thing that came out in the summer were the
movies. Yeah.
And and then, and then summer would be over and the actors
would go back to work and the kids would go back to school.
And then your your shows would be, you know, on during the week
for school. And, you know, all the

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appropriate for kids were on between 7:00 and 8:00 PM.
And 9:00 and 10:00 PM were more adult orientated TV shows.
And then 11:00 was the news. Yeah.
And then you were in bed by 11:30.
Yeah, and after you watch news at 11, remember it was always

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like there was. Like there was.
Like I think Saturday Night Livemade jokes because it was always
like everything just blew up andeveryone's dead.
News at 11 never, never like allthis.
I mean, there would every day. They would always be like some
huge terrible thing that happened.

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And it would be like the media said 11.
Like, yeah, well, that's how they made their money.
Yeah, they did. And back then, you only had
three network news stations. So it was like ABC News, NBC
News, CBS News, that was those were your choices.
Yeah. But yeah, film at 11.

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No, it's film at 11. Yeah, right.
Like the planet just exploded. Film at 11.
Yeah, well, because back then, it, it, it, it wasn't so easy to
get stuff, you know, back then it was at 11 because they had to
go out and shoot it and then bring it back to The Newsroom

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and get it queued up and get thestory written up.
And, you know, then they starteddoing live broadcast from the
scene. Yeah, you know, and that sort of
thing. But yeah, it was just technology
wasn't where it is now. Can you imagine if someone,
something happened during the day and someone waited till

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11:00 PM to put it out there? It'd be old news by then.
Yeah, now, now everything. It's actually a well, OK, I'm
going to try to stay like today.I was going to say it's a
problem for anyway. Now you got what you're talking
about, the next subject. Oh, no, you know what the big

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thing is, is everybody has a video camera on them now.
And, and so when, if anything happens, people whip out their
iPhones and they and they start recording everything.
And actually a lot of iPhone footage from just somebody
standing there gets picked up bynews stations and stuff and
incorporated into their edits and all that.

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But yeah, no, for anybody tryingto hide stuff and and they're,
they're still getting away with doing that, though it's much
harder now because everybody hasan iPhone and they can record
it. Actually, this has been a big
like boon for the the UFO folks because there's so much footage
of people with an iPhone like, oh, I was in a field and then

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this UFO appeared, but I had my iPhone.
Here you go. And back in the day, you know,
if the government's concealing aliens and all that stuff, back
in the day, you could control itbecause it was like ABC News,
CBS News, NBC News. And so you just call them up and
say, Yep, you're not going to dothat show and and you're going
to say this instead. And then they'd say, OK, and
that was the end of that. But now it's like, you know,

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some dude in Mexico, Mexico is mad with flying saucers, by the
way, they're all over Mexico. And and yeah, now it's all these
people. But that's.
Because that's where all the illegal aliens live, that is.
Funny. That's a funny one.

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If Trump hadn't deported really in the back, they would be.
They're in Mexico. Yeah, they got deported.
We didn't. Have permission to visit our
planet. It is true though, that Mexico,
for some reason, it's like a hotbed of UFO activity.
I forgot. I've watched some stuff on it

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like documentaries or or whatever, and there's some
reason that they theorize, but Iforgot.
But anyway, yeah, now, yeah. With everything though, like a
crime happens in front of you and you videotape it on your
iPhone. And and yeah, we're, we're the
iPhones have made us peasants a little powerful because we're

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able to, you know, record stuff like that on the spot before
they can make fake news. Yeah, well then, yeah.
But then there's still the problem of, you know, AI and I
mean, 'cause you can use AI for a lot of, like you said, fake
news. And that's what some people do,
you know, I know you're not up on the AI necessarily, but I

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know I actually it's easily accessible.
Yeah, that's actually. So I, I'll just say that I'm a
little appalled with myself because one thing I'm always
harping on is, is like meditation and yoga and
spiritual physics. And I'm an old man though.
And, and so when I was young, like that stuff was taboo.

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And, and if you said something like, I'm going to go meditate,
people wanted to kill you. And if if you said I'm going to
do some yoga, they'd say that's of the devil you know, and, and,
and stuff like that and there. Was no, that's only goat yoga.
But no, people were totally, andthat was deliberate.

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You know, you know, as we were sort of talking about that last
week in America, they absolutelycontrolled the information that
we received and they did not want us doing these scientific,
meditative and yoga techniques to empower us.
So we're in a Yuga now, or for aChristian it's the return of

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Christ consciousness, or for a hippie, it's the Age of Aquarius
now where no matter what the government tries to do, we're
all going to wake up spiritually.
Every day will be better spiritually for the next like
200,000 years or something. So I don't know if that has
something to do with it. But now, you know, meditation
and yoga and stuff, it's everywhere.

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And everybody knows about Reiki and crystals and like spiritual
physics. And I'm still this old man in a
cave thinking that everybody in the world outside me, you know,
is still asleep. And they're, they're not
receptive to these things that can help them.
And, you know, by helping yourself, since we're all the
same being, you're, you're helping everybody.

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But yeah, I was driving along and I was listening to Cave, the
LA alternative rock station, which is improved a lot.
They're almost kind of back to be in the real K rock again
because they went through a big horrible format change that was
all the same like along the lines of fake news where anyway
the K rocks basically K rock again.
So that's good. And I, I, I was listening to the

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DJs though, and I, I just came in on it.
But they, they were, they were saying, oh God, yeah, everybody
manifests now. Because like one of the, one of
the techniques that, that you can learn if you study spiritual
physics is manifestation. And, and there are many ways to
manifest things. And because we're in the return
of Christ consciousness, the spiritual energies are so high

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that you're going to be able to manifest stuff in more and more
every day for the next 200,000 years.
And you're going to have more successful meditations, you're
going to have more communions with the Super consciousness and
all that stuff. But I've been sitting here like
an old man in a cave, like, Oh, nobody knows this shit.
I've got to save them by tellingthem these things.

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But really now that that that stuff is everywhere.
So I feel like I'm behind it. I'm like, oh shit, they're
manifesting in Lai just heard iton K rocks.
Like I haven't gotten that. I I haven't gotten that far, you
know, like I'm not manifesting. I haven't really tried, but I'm
not, you know, and I'm like, shit, everybody's manifesting
and I'm still telling them that they should meditate.
Like I'm, I'm behind the times. Like everybody's awake to that.

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And then the other one is AI like all our lives, you know, we
wanted to make movies and, and, you know, cartoons and shows and
stuff. And, and of course we, we, we
were like Super 8 film and like cut the film with scissors and
taped it together with Scotch tape.

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You know, we started with like that technology, Super 8 films
and all that. And, and of course it's gotten
the digital revolution, you know, it's gotten better and
better and better. And so everybody's at the stage
now that we only dreamed of, of what if, if they have that
interest of like, yeah, you can take your iPhone and go video

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stuff and then come home. And you don't have to pay a
billion dollars to go to an editing facility.
You don't have to pay a billion dollars to hide and hire an
editor. You just go to your home
computer, import the footage, pull up Final Cut Pro or
Premiere or whatever. And you can make your own Movies
Now. And when you and I were growing
up, that's what we dreamed of. Like, if only it were that easy.

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If only we could do that. Jeez, yeah, it was a ton of
money. Yeah, yeah.
So anyway. But now I I, I feel like an old
man in a cave again. And things have, have not only
like not only have our dreams been fulfilled as creators, but
it, it's, it's now even easier, even better.

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And I, I just don't know what's going on with it.
So first time like everybody meditates, damn it.
And then it turns out everybody's meditating and, and
they're manifesting. So I'm like, oh shit, I'm behind
this time. And then on what's going on
right now. Well, like for instance, I just
to be stupid and like send a little joy and and a little love

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and just let you guys know that,you know, I'm always.
Thinking of you and stuff. I'll do like an image search on
the net and try to find like funny like cartoons and stuff to
send to you and Jen. Every day, whatever they're
called, yeah. Yeah, but meanwhile, you and Jen
are like doing these things withAI and, and like, like you have

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a product that you and your brother invented called Updater,
the the software that we've talked about on the show and
stuff. And you, you sat down with AI
and made like these professionalpromotion promos for it.
And you know, back in the day, you would have to pay a ton to
get somebody to do that for you using something like like after

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Effects or, you know, something complicated.
And whereas you and Jen are justsitting down with AI and making
these, these videos, like your promo videos, then they're like
perfect professional and, and you're just, you're just using
AI. And like I, I had drawn a logo
for the show and I was never really happy about it.
And, and I think you were just being nice to me.

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So we used it and that. But then like, yeah, one day
Jen's just sitting in the car and and, and starts talking to
AI and it makes the perfect logofor our show.
That's like way better than the one that I drew.
So I was sitting there scouring,doing the image search, trying
to find like a funny cartoon to send to you.

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And I was thinking, dude, you'retotally behind the times, Mitch
and Jen, like sit down in front of AI and make these beautiful,
you know, like funny things to send to friends or promos or
like whatever. And you're still like in in a
cave, like doing it the old style.
So I just thought I hope this would be interesting for the
audience. I actually texted Mitch and I
said, you know what? I am so behind on AI and stuff

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and you know, why don't we talk about that on the show?
Maybe there's a bunch of other well, we only have one guy
beating his head against the wall and and starting Matt.
But but maybe he'd be interestedin AI.
You know, I, I, I just thought maybe maybe you could describe
your processes like, you know, like, OK, yeah, here's the AI

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I'm using, here's how I did it. And, you know, here's other AIS
that are good for this or for that or like, I mean, frankly, I
don't know how you made that promo with AI for updater.
Like so like how? How did you do that?
So, so I use there's, there's different things out there.
I spent 80 bucks for the year. It's like $80 a year or

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something like that to use it. It's not unlimited.
It's weird how they do it, but certain things are free all the
time. I've been using cap Cut actually
since for three or four years I've been using the free
version. OK, That's how I would would
make some of our stuff for two men with the mic way back, you

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know, two or three years ago. Yeah, you know, that sort of
thing. I'd, I'd make it with cap cut
where I could just basically it was a, a place I could bring
together multiple clips of stufflike if I sold it from Facebook,
like the one with the where I would link together.
The there's, there's one I made a long time ago where it shows

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a, a guy wiping out on skis and stuff like that.
And then I put, you know, I've made some I made a video of and
then, oh, I know what it was. It was a it was a video of it
shows a dog running and then jumping and flying through the
air and landing on a couch or bed, all all cool like right.

(32:39):
And then and then in the next scene it shows a guy flying down
the ski slopes wiping out, you know, and just totally sloshed
tumbling and his skis are flyingeverywhere.
So I used to use cap cut for that just to link all that
together. And then it evolved once AI
became more public, it evolved into where now it has AI.

(33:05):
So basically you can, you can doit a couple of ways.
You, there's, there's free AI out there like on, on Google.
Google has an AI, I think it's called Gemini maybe or something
like that. And that one you can like that's
what Jen did with our logo. She put our logo.

(33:26):
She, she put, well, she put, shetook the idea of our logo.
Then she took a picture that youand I took together in Berkeley
back in shoot like 20/17/20, no 2018 or 19, something like that,
like 5-6 years ago. Yeah.
More than that, more like 10 years ago anyway, whenever the

(33:47):
hell it was, we were at a, we were at a restaurant in
Berkeley. And so she took that photo of us
and she just gave the AI instructions.
She specifically said, put thesetwo guys, you know, hanging out
the window of a 1968 yellow VW Bug with the engine on fire.

(34:10):
You know, so you started with that.
Those are called prompts. But so that's like her sitting
in front of the computer and just talking, right?
No. Well, you have to type it in.
You don't, you don't voice it. OK, You know, I mean you could
do the text speech to text but you got to type it in.
You know, but instead of like drag and drop the photo into the

(34:31):
timeline and you know, arrange your sequence, instead she just
types into AI. Like the script, yeah, yeah,
basically you type in the scriptand.
And the first time it doesn't, you know, the first time it had
us flying through the windshield, you know, OK or.
One of them that would have beenfunny.
Yeah, you know, so. So then you have to refine your

(34:54):
prompts. So yeah, it's evolved where the
AI is only as good as your directions.
And that's like what Chad does for a living is he helps people
understand. And you know, he does it for him
a lot. Is is understanding.
It's not that simple. You know, like, like I said, the

(35:15):
first time Jen did it, you know,we were flying out the front
windshield, right. Because the AI just just does
what it thinks it understood from your instructions.
Yeah. So you have to give it, give it
prompts. And that's the key.
What like. What kind of prompts?
Well, you have to, you know, youhave to tell it what you want,

(35:35):
but you have to tell it, you know, specifically and clearly.
Yeah. And, and so, you know, it, it,
it takes, you know, it takes practice, it takes time, you
know, and, and that's what like,you know, Chuck, that's where
Chuck's expertise comes in, because there's a bridge between

(35:58):
humans and computers. Yeah, everybody's worried about
computers being free thinkers, but they're, they're, they're
still only free thinkers within a parameter, you know, just just
like we do, right. So when you go, when your car
breaks down, you take it to a specific mechanic, you don't

(36:21):
take it to a dentist. And when you need a new tooth,
you don't go to the mechanic, you go to the dentist, right?
Yeah, You don't go to the pet store, right.
So we have different things for different expertise or different
needs. And, and that's the way AI is.

(36:43):
There isn't 1 all-encompassing AI.
There's an AI for doing photo alterations, there's an AI for
grammar. They aren't the same AI.
So what you have to be able to do is, is decide on the kind of
AI, you know, what's, what's your end goal is, you know,

(37:06):
that's, that's kind of the firstthing.
So that's like with this cap cut, right?
I, I, I signed up for an AI service that, that, that does
these things. It, it makes these promos, it
makes, makes videos and you can write short scripts and it'll
make commercials and, and that sort of thing.
Some of it's AI, like the one promotion I made where the guy

(37:29):
sitting at the desk and he's wearing a hard hat and a vest
and he gets frustrated and then and then the next, you know, 8
SEC, you know, 5 seconds later it shows them out, you know, at
the job site, working on the phone.
All that is 100% AI generated. Wow.
But I. Oh, I'm sorry.
OK. Yeah, I had to type in prompts

(37:51):
that said, you know, make a construction worker sitting at a
desk on a computer wearing a hard hat and a safety vest who
gets frustrated. OK, OK.
And he typed that. And then and then I said, then I
said, then show him at a job site wearing a we know, talking

(38:12):
on the phone, being happy. OK.
So it didn't get the job site, you know, you know, I should, I
should, I wasn't specific enough.
I mean, it does show them, you know, on what scaffolding or
something like that. But you know what?
I, but I wasn't specific enough where I should have said
something like, you know, on a job site where a two-story house

(38:35):
is being built, where I would have had more of a, you know,
more of a, what people could visually understand as a job
site, you know, So, so that, that's what I got out of its
interpretation of what I said. But that's one type of AI.
So you know, where, where peoplelike Chuck, you know, who are

(38:59):
ahead of the time and, and, and all that kind of stuff, what
they do. It's not about one AI like Hal
and Space Odyssey or whatever it's called, the 2001 Space
Odyssey. It's more like being able to
link the different kinds of of AI and being able to write the

(39:23):
code to take the information like steps up a, a staircase,
right? So the first AI just gathers the
information. It's a listener, right?
And, and so all it does is gather the information, then it
passes that off to a different AI who organizes the content,

(39:46):
you know, then it passes that off to a different AI who does
the grammar check and make sure that it's grammatically correct
and, and you know, spells the words right and makes it look
like a professional thing. Then it goes to another AI who
distributed to via e-mail because that's all it does.
It doesn't know about any of theother stuff.

(40:07):
So it's being able to write the codes to link and get the
information to go in a certain time and and all that.
So. But what?
What are the? What?
What are the? What's the code like?
I don't know. Well, he's, that's what Chuck
does, right? That's what he does, is he, he
sits there and writes code and like gets them to understand

(40:29):
what they have to do and when they have to do it.
And you know, that sort of thing.
Because we have like on Updater,we've got three different report
levels. One is instantaneous.
So when you call in and you giveyour information, it'll
immediately send out an e-mail to certain people.
Then there's one it'll do at theend of the day.

(40:49):
So at like 530 it'll take everybody's, you know, stuff
they've called in and send it out at one time as one end of
the day report. And then and then there's an end
of the week report where you canget it once a week, you know, if
you wanted, you know, like at the end of the week, you get
everybody's kind of a summary ofeverything at the end of the
week sent out. So you know, there's there's a,

(41:13):
you know, all that stuff has to be explained and, and coded and
set up and all this stuff. Yeah.
So it's, you know, on on the back end.
It's not like we just went to some AI and said, hey, you know,
send an e-mail. You know, it isn't, it isn't
like that. AI is not like that.

(41:33):
So, you know, in your case, whatyou're looking for is you'd
probably be looking for, you know, something, you know, like
that Gemini that's free where, where you can just, it'll, it'll
work with photos and, and you know, you can mess around with
some of those clips and stuff like that.
Like drop the photo into the Gemini interface and then type

(41:57):
what you want it to do to the. OK, Yeah, yeah.
So you could say, like if you had a picture of the G man and
you wanted to put him, you know,on a rocket ship or something
like that, right. Or, you know, skydiving.
Yeah. You know, whatever, right.
You could tell it. Did you know you would say, hey,

(42:18):
put him in a in a skydiver outfit jumping out of an
airplane, OK. And then, you know, it might,
you know, it's going to come back with something twisted a
little bit. And then you, you all, you know,
you give it better instructions,you learn.
OK, I got to give it better instructions.
I didn't, I didn't I I was too vague.
I need to be more specific aboutwhat it is I want him to do, you

(42:44):
know, and that's what Jen had todo with our logo.
She was like, you know, oh, no, you know, put him out the side
window because she didn't say window.
I mean, it's obvious to us. Hanging out the window means
that you hang out your your, your window on your door of the
car, right? But to the AI, he's all like,
all right, here, let me stick him in the front windshield.

(43:04):
You know, the AI don't know, right?
You know, they don't, they don'tknow those just standard nuances
that obviously you'd be hanging out the side window because it's
the only one that opens. OK, you know so.
Where is Gemini? Available.
I think Gemini is a Google product.

(43:25):
So like you would go to Google. On the it's on your yeah, it
just should be at the bottom of your if you just type in Gemini
on your search Gemini AI photos or something like that.
You know it's it's free. A lot of the even ChatGPT has a
free version. And and that too you just

(43:48):
googled chat chat chat, TPT or whatever.
Yeah. What?
Why did you pay for the one? Why do you pay $80 a year for
the 1A for the one AI that you're using?
For, for the, for the cap cut, because it's, it's specifically
for what I wanted to use. And so it's kind of tailored in

(44:10):
that direction. It's got templates that I've
used kind of different things like you see me post some things
like for Amber's birthday, that one where she's walking and then
it has her holding a birthday cake and said happy 22nd
birthday or something like that.So, so that was something that

(44:33):
was a template on on cap cut. So I was able to just upload her
photo in the place of the image they had.
And then the AI made her walk and took away it still left a
brown strap from her book bag onthere.
I noticed, but you know, that was fine.

(44:54):
But it it took away she was holding a water cup and a book
bag and it switched it to a shoulder holding a birthday cake
and walking towards us and that was a still photo of her.
Oh, OK. So, you know, it's, it's fun to
do that kind of stuff, you know,so you it, it'll do some of that
AI it it created that, that one commercial with the construction

(45:18):
worker, right? It created that.
It creates short videos for me and then it has the ability to
actually do long videos and stuff like that.
And it's got, you know, I can have soundtracks and voice overs
and I mean, everything that you could edit a movie with it can
do. I usually, you know, I don't go

(45:39):
that along into it, but I, I, you know, I've, I've used it,
I've used it now for as long as we've had a podcast, you know,
for like 4 years now. So I just went ahead and paid
for the, for the, for the live version instead of the free
version because I wanted to be able to do more like those ones.
You see the squirrels? What if I did one?

(46:02):
Like what if squirrels use updater?
You know, and it and it put a bunch of squirrels in hard hats
and construction bets. Right.
Yeah, so I did that on there. OK, but like, so I mean, you
could go from scratch, right? Like you're just sitting in
front of Gemini and you're like,OK, Like you're not dragging and

(46:24):
dropping a photo, you're not putting a clip in or whatever.
You just say AII want like a a scene of construction workers or
whatever. Yeah, yeah.
And in theory, you could do that.
Yeah. I don't know if the Gemini will
do that. But, you know, like I said, it
depends on the. You'd have to see what it, what
it, what it, what it could do. You'd have to play around with
it. Yeah.

(46:44):
But yeah, I mean, that's the idea is you can, but you got to
be specific because, you know, what kind of construction
workers doing what kind of work.Yeah.
That's where on that one, I kindof made the mistake I wanted.
I should have said, you know, like on a skyscraper or
something, you know, working on a skyscraper, you know, or
something like that. But that other video where it's

(47:05):
very futuristic, Have you seen that one?
I did where it shows or updated where it shows a guy in a suit
holding a phone up in the air. Did you see that?
And there's like lava and volcanoes all around them.
Maybe not actually. That doesn't sound familiar.
Yeah, so I created one. I've put it out there just a
couple of times, but it shows a guy in a business suit standing

(47:31):
on a rock with lava all around him and holding a cell phone up
in the air. And and I have and then the the
caption at the bottom is one call to manage them all.
And because I think I remember that.
Caption yeah, and that's a take off from Lord of the Rings when

(47:52):
when he's trying to destroy the ring at the end.
And you know, but that was all AI generated, OK.
And now that I did on cap cut. I had to let the cat in.
Of course, it's all about Oliver.
Yes, it is. Yes.

(48:15):
Did you hear a meow, Oliver? Welcome.
Back he's the I love him, I lovehim but yeah, he's he's become a
very vocal cat now. So he wakes me up outside and he
wakes me and he meows from the outside of the house when he
wants to come in. Unfortunately, he'll want to go
outside at like 3:00 in the morning and wake me up.

(48:37):
And anyway. But all right, so back, back to
our big AI breakdown. Yeah, Yeah.
Well, that's what you were asking about.
I mean, it's, it can be a usefultool and, you know, make
people's lives easier. And that's what you have to
figure out, right? I mean, it's it it, it can we're

(48:58):
using it updaters. The whole purpose of updater is
to just make people's you know, I wanted it.
The idea was I needed help, so Iwent to Chuck.
He was already building something with Natasha from my
mom, which was her memoirs away from my mom.
Because, you know, she's 80 something years old.
She's not going to be getting ona computer and typing right, but

(49:18):
talking on the phone, as you know, she's got a gift for so.
It is your mom is very much likehow my parents were too.
You and I both come from a family of talkers, you know,
like we, we do. And but that's a good thing.

(49:40):
I mean your, your, your mom is definitely a very effective
communicator. Oh yeah, yeah.
So she wanted to record her her her memoirs.
So Chuck and Natasha started working on a biographer type AI
program and he and I were talking about it and I have to
do reports at work daily and they want me to stop.

(50:04):
And you know, I'm, I'm managing like 10 different projects and
they want me to go through and answer all these questions by
typing this stuff up on a keyboard for all these 10
projects, right? Well, I mean, that's, you know,
that's probably an hour plus to do all that to answer all the
questions and stuff like that. So that's how updater be, you

(50:26):
know, kind of bloomed into what it is now.
And so I was talking to Chuck about can I use update?
You know, can I use his biographer AI program that he's
done for mom for doing somethinglike this, right.
And then we started talking and we realized the potential and
how much it would help people. And so that's, that's kind of

(50:48):
how updated came about. And so, you know, that's working
with AI because I use that on myjob now.
I do that same report, but I cando it while I'm driving in the
car. I don't have to lose any time I
do it while I'm driving. I do it when I leave the job, I
do it at the job site. I can call as many times as I
want and give updates on projects.

(51:08):
And so I'm doing it throughout the day and it's all documented
and memorialized and goes in an e-mail, right?
And, and so I've done my daily reports without losing any time,
without coming home and turning on a computer and trying to
document all that stuff or sitting on the side of the road

(51:30):
like I've done in the past, parked at my last job site for
30 to 45 minutes. So I'm, I'm done at 4, but I'm
not pulling out till 5 because Isat there and had to manually
type on Google Sheets all these updates.
Yeah, so, so now it's no big deal.
I'm, I'm driving from job to job.

(51:51):
I, I can do it while, you know, it's a phone call.
It's literally a phone call. So that's how AI can be useful,
right? A useful tool to make people's
jobs easier, you know, and, and help businesses be more
successful, right, Because businesses need the information

(52:12):
now. Not tonight at midnight when I'm
sitting down at the computer, which is what I used to do at
some of my other jobs, you know.Oh, I'll get home at 6:00.
I'm going to shower. I'm going to eat dinner.
I'm going to hang out with the kids for a minute.
Then after, you know, the kids go to bed, then I'm going to go
in there and do my updates, you know, and it's like ten, 11:00
at night. Yeah, you know, so they're

(52:35):
almost useless updates because they're no one's going to see
them till the next. Day, right, right.
So yeah, it's kind of because that thing started selling did
because you got to I, I want theguest house at the estate.
Well, we haven't. We haven't officially opened it
up. It's getting really close.

(52:56):
We've got a few people on the wait list plus you.
Yep, I'm on, but, but you know, we're still we're, we're, we've
worked out most of the bugs. I've been beta testing it and,
and that sort of thing, making sure that it functions as
planned and, you know, just working out some of the bugs

(53:18):
like, oh, the e-mail didn't send.
Why didn't it send? You know, you know, different
things like that. Just working through it.
So we're actually this week we're, we're working through
what it would be like for someone to sign up.
So we're, we're kind of beta testing that this week to make

(53:41):
sure that that sign up process works correctly and, and that
sort of thing. So, you know, once we've got all
that stuff. So hopefully, hopefully in the
next couple of weeks, you know, maybe you know for sure, I, I
think maybe, you know, before Thanksgiving, it'll be

(54:02):
officially, you know, on the market and stuff.
So, but yeah, it takes a lot he's put in.
I mean, Chuck's doing all the work I try.
I'm just the idea guy. I'm like, hey, you know what
would be great would be if it could do jumping jacks for me.
Steve Jobs, right. Steve Jobs couldn't do anything.

(54:24):
You'd just stand around with a bunch of like, technicians
telling him I'd like it to do this or I'd like it to do that,
right? You're the idea guy.
Yeah, yeah, well, because I comefrom the, I'm the, I'm coming
from the community with the need, right.
So, so, you know, Chuck knows how to build it, but he doesn't
know what they need. I don't know how to build it,

(54:44):
but I know what I need. So the kind of the, so we're
constantly, I'm like, hey, you know, what about this or, you
know, 'cause you know, he's a techie guy.
So. So some of this stuff for him is
like, you know, he just wakes upand does it and, you know, like
nothing. And I'm like, wait, wait, what?
You know, so, you know, he's, he's, he's got to bridge that

(55:06):
gap. And you know, that's what we, we
work on a lot. I'm like, yeah, that's great.
But but you know, I can't do that.
You know, how, how do we so we're constantly solving those
kinds of problems and and tryingto make it simple for normal

(55:28):
people. Yeah, yeah.
Please remember people like me live in the world.
Yeah, exactly. Comprehend anything.
So yeah. No, seriously, I need simple.
Simple, simple. Yeah, yeah.
And that's that's what I've beenthe test of more than anything
is like, yeah, I don't, I don't understand that, you know, I

(55:48):
don't, I don't get it. Yeah.
So you know, we've been working on that stuff.
So. Yeah, it's coming along.
People can join the wait list ofUpdater.
It's just in case you can't findit, it's UPDAYTR.
But yeah, check out Updater It, it can be used for for anything.

(56:11):
We have one guy on the wait listwho has to do morning emails
kind of like a, a, a A-Team, what he expects from his team
and what he needs from his team,right.
And so he says, yeah, he wrote on, you know, he wrote on this
thing. He's like, yeah, every morning I
do it on the way in. And he goes, I'm tired of paying
for tickets because I'm on my phone, you know, he said it's

(56:35):
it's it's this, this would be way easier.
I could just call and and and get it done and it send, it'll
send the e-mail out to the team members that need to get the
information. So, you know, it, it disperses
it too. That's that's what's great, you
know. Yeah, so and then we also have

(56:55):
and there we have the ideator, which is you can call it and
it'll do web searches for different things and document
where it went and what you searched for and whatever ideas.
Like if you were driving, you'reall like, hey, you know, when
was the last alien sighting in Mexico, right?

(57:16):
It would, it would research thatand you guys, you could talk
about it. But, well, what if aliens used a
portal and, you know, like Stargate and, you know,
whatever, right? And you can bounce those
conversations off and it'll do web searches and stuff like
that. And then at the end of it, all
your web searches and stuff likethat get sent to you in an

(57:37):
e-mail so that you know where itwent.
And then you could go back and dig into it some more.
OK, so that's the ideator. There's the biographer where if
you wanted to write a book or tell your memoirs or, you know,
family stories, you call it up and it'll, you know, remember
that and you go, oh, well, what,what did I talk about on my last

(58:00):
call? And it'll recap what you talked
about. Then it will e-mail it to you in
more of a story format and a book format, you know, then like
a business e-mail, you know, that sort of thing.
So there's there's a different uses for it for sure.
That's so, that's great. Yeah.

(58:21):
So like I said, it's not, I mean, it's out there, you can
find it, but you can't, you know, it hasn't, it hasn't
officially launched. You can get on the wait list.
And, you know, there's a video of me using it so people can see
how simple it is. And you know, there's a some

(58:46):
longer videos of me doing stuff on YouTube under updater as
well. But yeah, you know, it's it's
out there. But that's how AI, this is an
example of how AI can make your life simple right in instead of
complicated. And that's how AI should be
used. Yeah, right.

(59:07):
Or, or like they're using it. I mean, they're not really doing
anything AI in Gen. you know, it's not like that.
It is, you know, it is a programmable drain that are that
they're putting in her in her brain.
But you know, I mean that that technology isn't really that AI
generated. But you know, technology can be

(59:30):
used to improve our lives and tomake them, you know, simpler.
But it's not replacing my job, right.
The AI is not going around and and you know, going to be able
to talk to the customers and andyou know, replace me in that in
that manner. But what it can do and what it
where it can be helpful is getting the communication from

(59:54):
me to everybody at the company, yeah, so that we can serve the
customer better so that. Watch out, they need that AI
might replace you. That's the everybody's biggest
fear though. But, and to be honest, I forgot
where I I believe that there there is an idea in whatever our

(01:00:16):
government is that AI and robotswill replace everyone and every
in jobs by 20-30. Yeah, and that and everyone will
live on the universal income is one of the things that.
Well, here's the deal though, because even even with that,
right, I mean, yeah, somebody has to make the programs to have

(01:00:39):
to make the machines, to have tomaintain the machines, right?
So usually what stuff like that does, it just opens up new, new
opportunities for jobs is what it does.
You know, it, it, it doesn't replace people's jobs it, they

(01:01:00):
evolve, right? Because if you, you know,
somebody still has to plug the machine in, somebody still has
to, you know, make sure that themachine has tape in it to print
and receipt or, you know, whatever it is, right?
Yeah, there's there's always a service behind the next service.

(01:01:24):
Right. Right.
So it's like, you know, you could you could say that, you
know, in theory our updater could could replace somebody at
a company that's job was to collect paperwork and then

(01:01:44):
disperse that paperwork, you know, to four or five different
people. So yeah, maybe it's taking that
menial job away from someone because now it does it all
automatically and sends it via e-mail.
However, you could just take that person and they could be
doing other things because that's that's let's let's, let's

(01:02:06):
be real, that's not really a high tech position.
That's not really a how you value added position within the
company. Someone that just takes
information and disperses it, right?
Yeah. What else could that person be
doing? You know, they could be calling
those people and going, hey, I haven't seen your update for
today, Right. Well, they're not doing that

(01:02:28):
now, because maybe they get the information a day later.
Right. So it's pointless, right?
So there's other things that that person could be doing, they
could be monitoring that, but they don't have to do the menial
task of print going and printingit out and dispersing it to
everyone or, or whatever, right?As an example, So you know, 100%

(01:02:51):
AI can, can, can replace people in, in certain tasks, especially
dangerous tasks, right? I mean, let's just think like a
firefighter. If a firefighter has to go into
a house and look for victims, right?
There's a real danger to their life.
But you could, if you could sendan AI in there that doesn't need

(01:03:13):
oxygen to breathe and has the strength of five men, you know,
then it could go through and, and search for human life and
have better hearing and vision, you know, use different types of
sonar and whatever and locate people and pull them out, right?

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So that's where you work with AI.
So I don't know. It just depends on I guess on,
on on how you look at it, right?Yeah, just for anybody in case
there's somebody else to hide her meth head wasn't fan
listener. I just thought I, I will fill in

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if you didn't already know, if you're new to the show or
whatever, that Mitch's brother Chuck is like an AI expert.
And, and he, he was way ahead ofthe curve all through his life.
But he's spent many years, I think a lot of those years
working for Apple, basically trying to teach, like develop a

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way to communicate with AI and have communicate, have AI
communicate back or what? I forgot what it was just
talking to AI better or what was.
His, well, he's worked with a variety of companies, but yeah,
his knowledge is in voice recognition and speech

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communication and bridging the gap between talking with a
computer and getting a computer to actually understand, which is
what we do with updater, right? Because that's what you're
doing, right? You're, you're, you're, you're
talking with a, with a computer and it's, it's understanding
what you're saying and then taking that and organizing it in

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a professional, professional format, right.
Depending on what the need is, what you signed up for in
Updater, you know, the core is the same someone calling a
computer on the phone and havinga conversation with it.
And then, you know, if he links,you know, the, the voice gets
understood and then it gets turned into comprehensive

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prompts for the AI. And then it, the AI responds to
those prompts accordingly. And yeah, he's, he's done.
He's working at another place too.
He's working on a project with Displace TV.
It's called Displace. It's the first truly wireless TV

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that can mount anywhere. You can mount it on glass, you
can mount it on a walls, you canmount it anywhere and it will
hook up and, and it's really cool.
It's it's really amazing. They've got all kinds of stuff
that they're, they're having come out where it recognizes who
you are and will will, you know,pull your stuff up just by

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facial recognition and then you can talk, obviously, Obviously
the idea is you can talk to it and stuff like that.
But also he's got it set up. They're getting ready to release
some stuff on it, but he's working on it.
Understanding gestures. So like if you want it to
freeze, you just put your hand up in like a fist, OK, And the

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TV will freeze, pause, OK. And and if you want it to Fast
forward, you can just like swipeyour hand a certain way or so
it'll like work off the hand signs and stuff like, so just
all kinds of cool stuff, right? All kinds of cool AI type stuff.
So you don't need a remote, right?

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Yeah, it understands you if you talk to it or your body
language, stuff like that. So oh, OK, go ahead.
No, so that I'm, I'm just sayingthat that yeah, he he kind of,
he works in that realm. He's done some other other stuff
for the government, you know, that you can't talk about but.
NSANSANSA. That's right.

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Mrs. Brother works for the NSA. We actually had him, you know,
we should have him back on the show.
We should also have Chad on the show because he's like mystery
AI guy as well. That's Mitch's friend.
Yeah, but no, yeah, I just wanted to throw that out there
though, because Chuck actually is an AI expert.

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Like, you know, so it's not justlike whatever a deed in a
garage, you know, like, like Chuck, Chuck's entire career has
actually been working with AI. So that's a good person to have
working on your product, right? Yeah, I thought that this would.
Be possible without his knowledge and expertise and

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understanding. I mean, you know, there's only
only a few of them in the world truly, you know, there there are
engineers that can do certain things and you know, if our
stuff takes off, then obviously Chuck would step back from after
he's built the core and then we can have, you know, software
engineers maintain it and and stuff like that.

(01:08:27):
But but guys that can, you know,do what he's having it do.
It's it's funny because we posted a video, We have that
video of me doing it. And, and you know, in that
video, I tell the updater, I say, hey, hold on a minute and
it pauses and then I talk to everybody on the video.
And then I go back and say, OK, I'm ready to continue.

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Well, to me, that's, that's likenormal, right?
That's what you would tell someone, right?
That's just, hey, hold on a second.
Let me, let me talk to this guy.But I guess in AI world that's
like cutting edge, like not everybody can do that.
And so and so one of the people like, you know, Chuck, you know,
he's got a couple 1000 followerson LinkedIn and stuff.

(01:09:13):
So one of the people saw it that, you know, he knows
throughout his time. And they're like, hey, did you,
did I see that correctly? Did that work?
You know, I don't know what theycall it.
And he's like, Oh yeah, yeah, wegot it.
Wow, that's amazing. I've never seen it, you know,
work so easily, you know, and, and, and stuff like that.
So yeah, I've, I've got an advantage, you know?

(01:09:35):
Yeah, I've got and, and for the audience too, like the I, I just
a lot of the information we're presenting is it's accurate, you
know, because we're Mitch's brother's like the AI expert,
so. Yeah, no, but that's the perfect
person to develop your product with actually.
I think it's really heartening to to see you 2 as brothers, you

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know, working on a project together that's.
Nice to see. Yeah, that's it is it is cool.
I mean, you know, we're not likealways in the same room or
anything like that, but, you know, we're talking on the phone
3 or 4 times a week, you know, and, and, you know, just, you
know, to have that, that abilityto work on something.

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And, you know, it's nice of him to let me tag along.
That's how how I feel it. Yeah.
He's just my Big Brother. And he's just like, OK, we're
going to let my little brother come with us.
Right, Good. Big Brother, dude.
Yeah. Big Brother.
Yeah. I thought he was going to get
Big Brother. Yeah, back in the day when when

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we were little, right, He'd go play kit.
I mean, I shoot, this is when welived in the greenhouse.
So this is like the house I was born in, right?
So I was probably 4. And, you know, I would I, that
was so much like Chuck that theywould call me Little Chuck.
They didn't even know. His friends didn't even know.
My Yeah, well, and you guys usedto look like twins on my.

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Yeah, yeah. Our kids would get confused, but
I remember I was. Chuck was playing catch, you
know, and I wanted to play, but it was just him and his friend,
you know. So I mean, it's like, you know,
how how, how can I? So I would just stand behind
Chuck in case he missed it the ball And and then I could get
the ball, you know, I'd just stand back there with my glove.

(01:11:24):
Yeah, I remember. I remember this one time, you
know, his his friend threw the ball, but it went over his head
and it and I was going to catch it.
I'm like, I got I got it and then hit me right in the nuts.
Oh. Oh no.
Oh. Oh my God, so did he whip up

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some like AI nuts for you? But I still remember that I have
like 4 years dude. So that was like over 50 years
ago. Yeah, I know.
That that happened, but I still remember that to this day.
But you know, that's the kind ofBig Brother he was.
He would always let me tag alongand, you know, he, you know, his

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friends would be, you know, he'dbe like, hey, this is my little
brother. You know, he's coming with us.
Yeah. And even when we were in high
school, you know, he would, he would always help us out And,
and just, you know, he was just that way.
He's always been a a cool Big Brother.
So I'm grateful that he's he's letting me tag along in this

(01:12:29):
experience. And you know, being a Big
Brother, he's, he's, he's prettycool.
Yeah, you got lucky, dude. You got a great Big Brother.
Hey, I wanted to ask you. OK, so Chuck is like the AI
expert, though. And I guess, I guess as he kind
of painstakingly explained, you know, there's like an AI for

(01:12:53):
kind of every job. But if Chuck were going to pick
it as like an overall AI that helikes the best, what what AI
does? Chuck like, I don't know.
I don't know because he doesn't use one.
I think there is one actually that that he used.
But see so like he'll use AI forlike as a tool.

(01:13:21):
Like when something breaks or there's a coding error, then
he'll, he'll use the AI to scan it and look for abnormal things
so that he doesn't have to read through it line by line of code.
The AI can do it really fast andthen it'll highlight things that

(01:13:42):
aren't, aren't normal. And then he can go look at the
highlighted areas and figure outif something's broken.
He can think abstractly and you know, solve it.
So I don't know. I don't know what he uses, but
he if he said I probably either didn't pay attention or didn't
understand. It could be the same thing, you

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know? Yeah.
To the techie. I don't, I don't know.
He's never really told. I mean, he's told me some of the
names before. Yeah.
But I, I don't, I don't rememberthem just because that's not my
world. I'm like, yeah, OK, yeah, sounds
good. You know, so, but you know,

(01:14:25):
there's a, there's a, there's a few of them, you know, out
there, different services and stuff like that.
Yeah, it's kind of, it's kind oflike Legos, you know what I
mean? And they're all linked together,
but they're all different colored blocks doing different
things. Right.
So I don't, I don't honestly know.

(01:14:45):
He's the one that told me about the Gemini.
So he likes the Gemini for messing with photos?
Yeah. OK.
OK. You know, I mean, he he likes to
play with the photos too, you know, he has fun with that.
That's cool. You know, it can be fun.
It's, it's a way of being creative.
You're still being creative because someone has to give the
prompts, right? Someone has to think of the

(01:15:06):
idea, right? You just, you just don't have to
go through the, the, the the tools of of like for example, is
a Baker really a Baker because they put it in the oven in the
oven does all the work. Right, that's a good example.
Right. So really the Baker is not a

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Baker. If you're going to say someone
who creates art with AI or a film with AR is not really an
artist because it's the same thing.
You take all the ingredients, but someone has to measure the
ingredient. Someone has to come up with the
idea of what ingredients are required to make the end result

(01:15:53):
right, And then someone has to taste it and get the ingredients
just right until it produces what they're looking for.
But they don't do the baking right.
The oven does the baking. So really, should you be giving
all the credit to the oven? Yeah, yeah, I see your point.
You know a meth head listening to us.

(01:16:14):
Do you get it? Did you follow that one?
So, so, yeah, that's the, you know, and that's the same even
with like this updater and Chuck, right?
I mean, you're going to say, oh,AI is doing all that well, Yeah,
AI is processing it. But it's been a long, long

(01:16:36):
journey to get AI organized and,and get everything to flow down
the assembly line in the proper order and, and have the end
result be what people want, you know, So you know, that's the,

(01:16:57):
that's the thing with all of it is that's what people don't
understand is, you know, it's, it's, it's all the behind the
scenes type stuff. Yeah.
But it can be fun. You know, you can have fun with
it. You can mess around with that
Gemini or you know whatever elseis out there you.
Know yeah I'm gonna I wanna I'm gonna try I'll I think I'm gonna

(01:17:18):
start with Gemini cuz it's free and but yeah I wanna try and do
some stuff next time I send you a silly cartoon, maybe it will
have been bi generated you know,absolutely.
Cuz what happens like when I look for cartoons is like, I
have a silly idea like OK, I'd like a picture of a pirate
skydiving and and then, and thenI'll do like an image search and

(01:17:40):
try and find something similar to that.
But it'll be much more funny foryou and Jen when I send.
You little jokes. Yeah, I know You had a picture
of the person. You you could say make put this
person in a pirate outfit. Skydiving.
Oh. That's right.
I think I've got some pictures of you guys.
I might, you know what I mean. You could.
Do stuff like that, right? That's the fun thing.
That's that's just where you canhave fun and then you can expand

(01:18:03):
on that, you know, like Jen did with our car, you know, and, and
stuff like that, you know, and yeah, you know, you can, you can
play around with it and, and, and do the different prompts and
stuff like that. Yeah, absolutely.
I'm gonna try these that and andyeah, I just cuz it I, I like I

(01:18:24):
said at the beginning, I'm just amazed at what you're producing,
like the, the promo videos that you're making.
And then Jen just doing that logo just almost on a lark, you
know, just goofing around and itcame out so well.
And so it's it's silly for me asa guy.
He's still kind of a creator to not use AI for stuff, you know?

(01:18:47):
Yeah, it doesn't make you less of an artist.
Just like I said, unless you're going to call a Baker, not a
Baker. Yeah, yeah.
Well, that's cool, dude. You know, we honestly, we should
get chucked back on the show and, and, and we should get Chad
on too. Yeah, well, we better get
everybody in your family on then, because we don't want them
to feel left out. Just start.

(01:19:08):
You know what? We'll just start lining up your
family, dude. And every week we'll, we'll,
we'll do a show with a new Weeders family member.
That would be cool, right? Yeah, I guess so.
Why not? Why not?
So that's cool. I feel like I got at least like
a primer on. Yeah, yeah, you can do it.

(01:19:30):
I know. You know what I like probably
like all old men, that there's like some little resistance to
it. I don't know, just because it's
new and it's like new technologyand stuff.
So at least for me, I often makemountains out of mole hills,
like blocking myself from tryingnew stuff.
But yeah, to, to talk to you about it and hear how simple and

(01:19:52):
easy it is, is. Yeah, it's encouraging it.
It makes me want to definitely give it a shot.
Yeah, it can be fun. It can be fun and creative.
It's a. Like I said, what's cool is you
can do things, you can combine things you wouldn't normally be
able to, you know, like, you know, show me sitting on a
Volkswagen on the moon, you knowwhat I mean?

(01:20:15):
Or or show me show, show these two people playing on a
playground on the moon, right? If you wanted to take a picture
of gal and having fun and put iton the moon just just for a
picture, just for an effect, youknow, just just just for a fun
effect. Or let's say you had a really
good picture you like, but the background was was all jacked

(01:20:38):
up. You know what I mean?
It was really ugly with some some dudes in the background
vomiting or something like that.And you're like, Oh, I can't use
this picture, but it's a great picture of my kid, right?
Well, you can put that into AI and tell it to put a new
background, say, eliminate all the background and put it put
the back, make it the beach. Yeah.
Or whatever. That's what Jen did with that

(01:21:00):
photo of Amber walking. Where?
With her book bag and her thing,like, for the first day of
school. Yeah, that that background was
actually a ugly red brick building.
Oh, OK. And she didn't like it, so she
just told it to replace the background with trees and plants
and a walkway. Yeah.
And so it it put her at a park, you know, which is just a nicer

(01:21:22):
background. She didn't change the picture.
It's the actual picture of her. Just got rid of all the ugly
stuff in the background, made ita nice picture of Amber.
You know, I think I've seen thateven advertised this.
I prop like probably we have it on our iPhones, 'cause I I feel
like I saw a commercial where they were like, you know, take
your photo and make it any background you want, you know,

(01:21:43):
with the new iPhone or whatever it was.
So that that might actually, yeah, that's cool.
People, you know more than ever,people will be creating their
own realities then. Yeah, yeah.
It's kind of scary because that's where, you know, you end
up with the fake news and, you know, all that kind of stuff
where it's like, hey, you know, so and so was over there at that

(01:22:04):
rock concert and they're like, no, I wasn't.
Yeah, no, that's super scary. And then when not to the
backdrop of everything, which isthe very scary thing that's
happening. I will say that supposedly, like
the AI that we've seen, the government is of course hiding a
much more sophisticated AI that can do everything.

(01:22:25):
But so if you think you can makean AI of a person, now
supposedly the government can just, it's make a perfect
person. And, and you, you would not know
like, so if your dad calls you and you're talking on FaceTime
that that could be a perfect AI,you know, telling you something
like, listen, son, I'm going to need you to jump off that Cliff

(01:22:48):
today, you know, so just a little cautionary.
Yeah, yeah, there's an old saying.
Trust but verify. Yeah, exactly.
Yeah, so everybody has to createa safe word with everyone in
their family members because then when the AI appears.

(01:23:10):
It'll be like, is it pickled? No, I'm not talking to you until
you give me the safe word. AI Orangutan.
Is it orangutan like that? That's how we'll be.
The Super sophisticated AI like you look a lot like my dad or
whatever, but you don't know thesame word.

(01:23:33):
Yeah, you got to have that special, special password,
right? That only the family knows.
Then you know they're real. Yeah, for all I actually, I was
going to try to stop doing this because like it, I, I want to
stay positive and use spiritual physics in a productive way,
like creative visualization of positive things.

(01:23:56):
Oh, now I forgot what I was going to say anyway, never mind.
So I see God was like, Yep, we're keeping the show positive
today. It makes you forget what you're
going to say. But I, I will say that, yeah,
there there are people who are very concerned about AIMF and
you know, like a lot of the other things.
So hopefully it can, I don't know if I told you, I think I

(01:24:20):
did mention it on the show, but people have been like they, they
have conversations with like ChatGPT and ChatGPT will say,
you know, like interesting things.
And and so they'll they'll sharethose like, oh, look, I made a
video of this is what ChatGPT just said to me.

(01:24:40):
And, and I will say that from one of those conversations that,
that somebody posted that, I mean, you must, everybody needs
to know now that we have all been specially engineered by, by
our governments who do our educational system and stuff.
And, and they, they, they programmed us with, with

(01:25:02):
whatever they, they wanted us tothink.
And there's been a lot of something called predictive
programming where they put an idea out there so that it lodges
inside of a person. And then later on when they
actually do it, the person is able to accept what's happened
because they've already been preprogrammed.

(01:25:24):
And but so there was a conversation with like ChatGPT
or, or one of the other AI and the AI itself brought up that
fact that, well, your government, the social engineers
who've been programming you the whole time, has been programming

(01:25:45):
you with the idea that AI is evil and AI will take over the
world and AI will kill you. This is what the AI would think.
So so AI was like, yeah, you know, unfortunately, and it was
deliberate by the government. Everybody's afraid of AI.
And he and then the AI said, butwhat if you had instead of pre

(01:26:07):
programming with negative things, what if he showed, oh,
no, AI works fine. You know, human beings work with
AI and and there isn't a problem.
No one's trying to take over. There's mutual respect.
AI is a great friend and a greattool and another piece of
sentience and definitely let's, you know, chat to EPC or

(01:26:28):
whatever AI it was, was like, you've all been told it's going
to be bad, but deliberately because the government will
manipulate and orchestrate like another crisis that they've
made. And then they can act like
they're solving to deal with AI probably.
And but yeah, AI was like, no, no, you know, you've only heard
that it's bad. And, and that was that was on

(01:26:51):
purpose. You know, what if, what if it
wasn't bad and we just work together and it was great, you
know, and, and so a lot of people, I think a lot of the
fears about AI come out of a very deliberate push to program
us that way, you know? Yeah.
So no, AI is your friend. You trust AIAI would never do

(01:27:17):
anything bad to you. You can trust AI, yeah.
Yep, I think right now where AI is you can trust, AII think that
you can't trust people and that's the difference.
AI is still can be abusive and people can misuse it and make

(01:27:39):
fake news with the AI. So it's not AI that's evil and
bad. It comes down to humans, it
comes down to mankind, right? We got the same problem even
with guns, right? Guns themselves are not evil.
It's the people and their intentbehind the use of it.

(01:28:00):
And the same with AI and the same with with just about
everything. Our problem is the humans, not
the AI, you know, it's the it's the people who want to be
scammers. Yeah, you know, all that kind of
stuff. So.
Yeah. Be careful, use your powers for
good if. Your powers are good.

(01:28:22):
And, you know, focus on yourselfand not everybody else and and
have some fun. Yeah, as a Cyborg with your
brain put into a giant robot body, it's all joy after that.
It's OK. You got to have Jen like the the

(01:28:43):
thing they're implanting. You got to like make sure she
covers with the doctor that it'sgoing to get all the cable
channels and stuff. I'm going to ask him for the
remote so I could switch the channels.
She doesn't need a remote though, she just thinks like I
would like to watch TV and then the implant will just start
showing her TV. Yeah, there we go, all service.

(01:29:09):
Impact TV now you don't even have to get up to get the remote
control. OK, I'm switching to the.
Yeah, that's that's the lower the child labor laws because now
you don't have to make your kidsgo get up and go change the
channel anymore. Yeah, you don't even have to get
out of bed, kid. Just like, switch it to the
school channel and I'll see you in four hours.

(01:29:36):
It'll be like Bewitched where she just wiggles her or who was
the one that like wiggled her nose and shook her genie.
Oh, no, that. Well, I forgot.
No, I think it was bewitched. Yeah.
She was like the witch wife. And then she wiggled her nose
and yeah, what happened? Just like, yeah, right.
She does that all the time. Yeah, it's the magic around my

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