September 4, 2025 • 29 mins
The IMAPS International Symposium returns to the Town & Country Resort in San Diego from September 29-October 2, 2024, featuring restructured technical tracks, new Monday panel discussions, and exciting networking events including a special reception aboard the USS Midway aircraft carrier. General Chair Benson Chan and outgoing IMAPS President Erica Folk share what attendees can expect at this premier microelectronics packaging event.
• Expanded program with six focused technical tracks for better attendee experience
• New Monday afternoon panels on thermal challenges, HIR roadmap, and co-packaged optics
• Co-location with the new Thermal Management Conference (Wednesday-Friday)
• Special reception on the USS Midway aircraft carrier (requires RSVP during registration)
• Student engagement through high school tours, university booths, and the Posters & Pizza session
• Leadership transition as Erica Folk hands the presidency to Dan Kruger
• Multiple networking opportunities throughout the week including the Exhibitor Happy Hour
• Volunteer opportunities that provide valuable professional development and career connections
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Francoise von Trapp (00:00):
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Hi there, I'm Francoise vonTrapp, and this is the 3D
Insights Podcast.
Hi everyone.
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Well, we've had another triparound the sun and it's time for
this year's preview of the IMAPInternational Symposium, which
happens September 29th toOctober 2nd and, as it does,
alternate years.
This year's event takes placeat the Town Country Resort in
San Diego.
So here to tell us all about itare Benson Chan, this year's
General Chair, and Erica Folk,outgoing IMAPS president.
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So welcome to the podcast.
Thank you, glad to be here.
So how's your summer been?
It's been great.
Erica Folk (01:12):
We had lots of travel.
We finally took the trip thatwe planned for 2020 and got
postponed and then canceled.
So now it's happened for realand we're super excited about it
, had a lot of fun there, therewas lots of soccer for us and
yet, with all that crammed inthe summer, it's really hard to
believe that it is time to sendeverybody back to school.
Francoise von Trapp (01:30):
Right?
Well, they've already gone backto school here in Arizona,
because they have year roundschool here.
So they went back at the end ofJuly, believe it or not, but
it's hot, so you might as wellstick kids in an air conditioned
building and teach them Benson.
How about you?
Have you had a good summer?
Benson Chan (01:46):
It's been a crazy summer.
It's been fast, Definitelylooking forward to the time-maps
.
Unfortunately, I also have tohave my own symposium.
That's going to happen thefirst week of September, so I
plan for both.
So after that we'll take somebreaks.
Francoise von Trapp (01:58):
Right, so you're general chair of this
year's event, but year's event.
But you also, in your day job,are at Binghamton University.
Benson Chan (02:05):
Yes.
Francoise von Trapp (02:07):
And so every year you have your own
symposium.
Benson Chan (02:09):
Exactly, it's from the Trinx Packaging Symposium.
It's one of the few symposiumsthat's dedicated to the
Northeast and it has the samekind of topics, same kind of
people.
But I think really, what's niceabout it?
It's a smaller conference.
We basically hold it to 250.
And you know, a lot of thetopics we have are similar.
We have a great panel this yearon co-packaged optics, which I
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think will be fantastic.
Jan is going to have one atIMAPS this year.
Francoise von Trapp (02:38):
Okay, yes, she is.
So now you've both been on thepodcast before and, benson, you
just started, but can you justremind us of your roles both at
IMAPS and the microelectronicsindustry?
Erica Sure.
Erica Folk (02:51):
Currently I am the president of IMAPS.
I stepped into this role inOctober 2023 at the conference
when it was at San Diego Townand Country last time, and I
will be handing over the torchto Dan Kruger at that conference
, coming up here in the next fewweeks.
Microelectronics I started inthat industry when I was in grad
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school, working on LTCC.
That was where I had my firstexposure to IMAPS.
I met folks at my currentemployer there.
My advisor got us into it.
We had student booths atconferences.
From there I continued intosemiconductors, both in
fabrication and design atNorthrop Grumman.
Imaps has been a great way forme to stay informed of what's
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going on in the industry beyondjust aerospace and defense.
Francoise von Trapp (03:40):
And Benson at Binghamton University.
What is your role beyond doingthe symposium?
I'm sure there's much, muchmore that you do.
Benson Chan (03:48):
So at the university I'm the associate
director for the S3IP, which isa small-scale systems
integration package.
It's a center of excellencesponsored by New York State.
We basically are an umbrellaorganization for about six
research centers withinBinghamton that mainly focuses
on electronics six researchcenters within bigington that we
mainly focus on electronics.
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There'll be pieces looking atreliability, materials
development, uh modeling.
We have another center lookingat energy efficiency for data
centers.
We have a center looking attransport hybrid electronics, so
they're tied in with xbox, uh.
We have another center that'slooking at heterogeneous
integration but respect toadvanced thermal solutions, and
then we have another the lastlab really's looking at
heterogeneous integration butrespect to advanced thermal
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solutions, and then we haveanother.
The last lab really is lookingat how to create solar cells and
supercapacitors usingmulti-materials versus using
amorphous silicon.
You know wafers and buildingsubscrides on.
So it's really a way togenerate those functions in a
way that we can actuallytranslate that into a rotor
manufacturing line to makereally cheap solar cells and
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supercapacitors.
Francoise von Trapp (04:52):
Yeah, I always forget how much is going
on in New York State.
I mean, there is a lothappening in the advanced
packaging space.
Even so, that really probablyis good for people coming to the
university because there's alot of options for them from
there.
Benson Chan (05:06):
Oh, definitely, definitely.
I think you know we have allthe major topics in it.
You know engineering as well asyou know science, physics and
chemistry.
We actually get all thesegroups involved in packaging.
You know we have projectsinvolving physics where they're
doing, uh, ab initio modeling ofatoms in the structure, like
create a model of inner metallic, understand how that behaves.
(05:29):
If I throw in differentelements into that solder, what
is it going to do to themechanical properties, the
thermal properties?
So it's not just physics, it'sreally.
How do you get, you know,materials that developed using
modeling, using AI, and say whatcan we do with this?
Can we try now to get someoneto actually synthesize it,
actually test it?
That's in play.
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And also, we have a big effortin energy storage.
We are a MSF engines for energystorage as well as a large
center that was just put inplace two years ago.
We're actually going to bebuilding prototype lines for
building batteries in eithercylindrical or prismatic, so
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anyone could come to the lineand say I have a new formulation
, I'm going to build this.
You know, build prototypes thatnow they could go and ask for
money.
Francoise von Trapp (06:18):
So a lot's happening there.
Yes, so let's talk IMAPs.
You have a very busy fallcoming up.
I understand I mean you'remostly going to talk about the
symposium, but there's otherthings happening before the
symposium.
Erica Folk (06:30):
Absolutely so.
Next up on our list is theon-shoring event which is coming
up here just in a couple weeks.
It is in Pentagon City in thatarea.
So if you're anywhere near DCand you have an interest in
supporting onshoring fabricationof microelectronics and being
part of that effort, please lookinto that and attend.
(06:52):
It's a great event.
It was originally scheduled forApril and got pushed back into
September, so this is a new timeslot for us, but it is a great
event.
Also, there is a new eventthat's going to be happening in
Silicon Valley.
This is the IMAPS ExecutiveSummit.
This is something that has beenpulled together, actually
rather quickly, so you will haveseen announcements come out
(07:15):
just recently about it, but thiswas a grassroots event that
started from that local chapter.
They surveyed their members,they were trying to get their
chapter revitalized and folkssaid, hey, this is something we
think would be of value to us.
It's got a fantastic program.
Anyone should considerattending, but especially if
you're local, you should takeadvantage of this.
(07:35):
It is the week before the IMAPsymposium, so I recognize
schedule-wise that might bechallenging, but it has a great
lineup and it does focus a loton the marketing and the
strategy.
So if you're somebody that'slooking at things kind of at
that 30,000 foot view, thiswould be a fantastic opportunity
for you.
Again.
If you're somebody that's local, it's a great opportunity to
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network and meet the folksaround you that you may be
working with and can make thoseconnections, be working with and
can make those connections.
And then, of course, after thatcomes Symposium, which again
starts September 29th.
This is a packed fall seasonfor us, but we've got on-shoring
in its new time slot of theyear and then this Executive
Summit that's coming up, soplease pencil those in and
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consider them on your calendars.
Francoise von Trapp (08:21):
I'm actually very excited about the
Executive Summit because I wasasked to moderate a panel on
market trends semiconductorpackaging as a strategic
differentiator and that'shappening at two o'clock on
September 24th, so I hope to seeyou there, and then, of course,
I will see you all at thesymposium the following week.
(08:42):
So it's going to turn out to bea pretty busy fall for me as
well, because the week afterthat it's Semicon West.
So, as far as the symposiumgoes, benson, what's new for
this year?
Benson Chan (08:53):
Sure, I think one of the things that we're really
proud of is that you know wehave a track system where we
basically focus on differenttopics within packaging, and
what we did this year was webasically shuffled everything
together and tried to maketracks make more sense and more
focused.
So now, instead of the five weused to have, now we have six.
It's evenly spread so peoplecan actually say I want to go to
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track one versus track fivebecause it makes more sense.
So we hope to give you a muchbetter experience in presenting
the materials that people wantto put out there.
But one of the things that wealso added to this symposium is,
instead of having the first daybeing just PDCs and the welcome
reception, we basically filledin the gap between the end of
the PDCs and the reception andwe're basically hosting panels
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right.
So now we've got an extraopportunity to actually bring
more topics to our attendees bygiving the chance to interact
with presenters and panelists.
The first panel is going to bethermal and thermomechanical
challenges and opportunities inadvanced packaging.
We're going to talk about whatare we going to do to try to
understand how to take care ofthe heat, how are you going to
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do the modeling.
What's the role of simulation,of multi-physics as well?
As you know, ai designs Thingsthat will help you understand
how things are going to behaveand make sure that whatever
you're going to design is goingto be reliable and be able to
function at the temperaturesexpected at the hologramy that's
going to put out.
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We have a HIR, which is the Headof Junior Simulation Roadmap
workshop.
That's going to be split in two.
One is going to be more a paneltalking about what are the
challenges to roadmap, what'sgoing to be expected?
One is going to be introducingRavi Mahajan.
That's going to be replacingBill Chen as the head of HIR, so
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that's going to be exciting.
Chen as the head of HR, sothat's going to be exciting.
He brings a different formulato this thing but, I think,
equally driven as far asunderstanding what's going to
happen and how to help companiesunderstand and prepare for the
future.
The last piece is going to be apanel on co-package optics and
also co-design efforts.
How can we improve the designmethodology to actually create
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better packages?
Francoise von Trapp (11:07):
This is new , that we're having the panels.
I saw the keynotes that arehappening.
I think you've got three onTuesday and one on Wednesday and
one on Thursday.
When are the panel discussionshappening?
Benson Chan (11:18):
This is all happening on Monday.
Francoise von Trapp (11:21):
All the panels are on Monday.
Benson Chan (11:22):
All the panels are on Monday.
Francoise von Trapp (11:24):
Oh, I thought it was professional
development courses on Monday.
Benson Chan (11:27):
Right after the PDCs.
So PDCs run from eight to three.
Right after that is going to bethe first panel.
So we're going to fill fromthree to five.
Francoise von Trapp (11:34):
With panel discussions.
Right, I better get my buttthere, because I was going to
drive out on Monday.
Benson Chan (11:41):
I think that's going to be.
Francoise von Trapp (11:42):
The exciting part is really
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no-transcript, because you mightwant to come in on Sunday so
that you're there to hit theground running on Monday, or
make sure you're flying Mondaymorning so that you don't miss
those panels because there'ssomething new.
It's not something they've hadin the past.
Yeah Well, I'm glad we had thisconversation.
Erica Folk (12:27):
So the extra plug there, francoise, is not just
the panels, which are great,right, and folks should totally
consider the PDCs if that'ssomething on their list, because
we've got a great group forthat as well.
But again, get in early andRSVP for the midway reception.
Yes, I am super excited aboutthat.
This is something that staffhas been working on.
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It was an idea they had,because we're in a location that
has that feel and thatavailability, and to be out
there on the aircraft carrier, Iam just so super excited about
that.
As we've been going through theplanning.
There's going to be tours,there's going to be a
demonstration.
A VR like this is going to beawesome.
You have to RSVP, though, somake sure that when you register
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that you also RSVP.
Francoise von Trapp (13:14):
I did that before I even registered for the
conference.
When that?
Email came out and I was likeI'm going on that, except I've
been on the midway before andyou will see me above decks
because I discovered that I am alittle claustrophobic.
And I discovered that on themidway because I remember going
through the tour and you go downand down and down and then when
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you, when I came out, I wassuddenly took a big breath.
Erica Folk (13:39):
It makes you really appreciate the folks that serve
our country and have to be onships like that for many months
at a time.
Francoise von Trapp (13:47):
Yeah, and they're huge.
It's huge.
But then when you're downinside, everything is designed
for efficiency.
Everything has its place.
It's very, very cool to gothrough.
Erica Folk (13:57):
I'll also say at the mid-ray reception there is a
special surprise and a photo op.
If folks want to just keep that, that is the only hint you're
getting from me right now.
Francoise von Trapp (14:09):
Okay, so let's talk a little bit about
the keynote.
Benson Chan (14:13):
The topics for the keynotes are really what's
going to be driving the industry.
You know, hopefully in the nextcouple of years we have some
great keynotes.
I mean we've got, you know,subu's going to be talking about
worker chips, we've got GlennDavies, we've got Tariq Ibrahim
from Intel and Hamer from AMD.
I mean these are all greattopics, right, talking about all
the challenges and see what'scoming, what's going to be, you
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know, pushing the industry.
What's pushing packaging?
You know whether it's materialsor even just designs, materials
or even just designs.
So, again, this, this is goingto be a great opportunity to
talk to the, you know, theleaders in industry and
hopefully, you know, out of theQ and A's, you'll get something
useful out of it.
Francoise von Trapp (14:53):
Lots of stuff happening beyond just the
technology tracks, lots to learnabout of you know what's
driving the industry, whatpeople can expect going forward,
which is, I think, somethingwe've all been looking forward
to learning.
I feel like we've been on holda little bit, so hopefully this
gets things moving.
This year's IMAPS symposium isco-located with the Thermal
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Management Conference, so howhas that worked?
Benson Chan (15:18):
This is a new event that's going to be put
together for IMAPS, focusedsolely on thermal.
The symposium is going to runfrom Monday to Thursday and
they're going to run fromWednesday to Friday, so what's
nice about it is you got a wayof, if you're attending, you can
also just, you know, add acouple of days and say I can
learn more things about you knowwhat's really focused on
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thermal?
What are you doing as far asremoving heat from a one
kilowatt device?
Right?
Those are the challenges.
Francoise von Trapp (15:48):
Now we've covered like the content, and
let's talk a little bit about myfavorite topics, which is the
student involvement and thenetworking, oh, and also the
exhibit.
So one of the things I knowabout the San Diego event is
that there's generally highschool students coming to the
show and taking everything in,and there is a big commitment
with IMAPS to promote the nextgeneration.
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So what can we expect?
This?
Erica Folk (16:15):
year.
I would expect something verysimilar to what we've done in
previous years.
We've had a high amount ofengagement and success with the
high school students that havecome in and success with the
high school students that havecome in.
Typically, we've got a programwhere we've brought in
technologists and folks thathave been volunteers within
IMAPS to speak to the studentsand then take them out on the
exhibit floor.
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So please be prepared, ifyou're exhibiting, to engage
these students Know that theyare excited, but maybe a little
shy and awkward because theyhaven't been in this type of
environment before.
So ask them questions or beprepared to show them how great
your technology is.
You'll be surprised.
I know that I'm blown away allthe time by the new applications
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and resumes that I'm seeingfrom students out there.
They're absolutely phenomenal.
So you can expect to see thingslike that.
But again, please make themfeel welcome and engage them
while they're here, because youwill see them on the exhibit
floor and again, we willprobably have a handful of
speakers lined up to kind ofgive them just some indication
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of what they might expect, asthey're looking forward to both
getting advanced degrees andthen also going through and just
joining the workforce.
Francoise von Trapp (17:26):
I always have so much fun talking to them
and we usually get them on apodcast and it's probably the
highlight of the podcastingbecause they have so much energy
, they love to talk.
Usually Adrienne brings mesomebody who is not so shy and
then they like to talk about.
You know why?
They're interested inmicroelectronics and all of the
cool stuff they're seeing on thefloor.
Erica Folk (17:47):
Absolutely, and you know I focused Francoise on the
high school students in thatportion of the program.
But we do have a fair amount ofuniversity students that are
attending both undergrad andgraduate students, and you can
see where they're from on theprogram.
There's lots of them that dothe posters and they absolutely
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love having folks from industryengage them and ask them about
the work that they're doing inschool.
So please don't miss the pizzasand poster portion of the event
as well.
And that's thursday, uhthursday at lunch.
Benson Chan (18:16):
and then the other thing I want to bring up is
imaps is going to be doing whatthey did last year, which is
actually offering universities abooth right right In the
exhibit area where the schoolcan do whatever they want in
that booth.
But I think a lot of them willactually show research that's
being done at universities, oreven just the students
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presenting their own posters.
I think what's nice about it isto get an opportunity to talk
to the industry right gives abetter meaning to what their
research is really about,because a lot of times the
research it's a topic that maybethe faculty decided on and then
now they see, well, oh, this iswhere it can lead to and maybe
it can guide their research alittle.
Francoise von Trapp (18:53):
Yeah, I talked to a student at IMF's
device packaging who that wasexactly it.
How he got into advancedpackaging was, you know, his
undergraduate degree wasn'tspecific in advanced packaging,
but he found that path and itmight have been something to do
with thermal, I can't remember.
(19:15):
But anyway, speaking of studentinvolvement, you mentioned the
posters.
Talk a little bit about theannual posters and pizza session
.
That usually wraps things up on.
Erica Folk (19:26):
Thursday?
Right, it does, and so it's oneof those things too.
While you're planning yourtravel and planning to come
early on Monday so that you getto see all the panels, please
try to stay around for lunch onThursday, because that's when
all the posters are displayed.
Years ago, we started thisportion of the conference as a
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way to go display things thatyou know maybe didn't quite fit
within a topic, based on the waythe sessions were put together,
maybe because somebodypreferred to do a poster to have
that engagement with folks thatway as opposed to presenting in
a session.
But it's turned out that thatevent has been so successful
that we actually have peoplethat present in sessions that go
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.
Can I put a poster up too?
Right with my work, Because itis so engaging?
So, again, there's food, that'sthere.
That's part of that event, butit's an opportunity to really
have a little bit more intimateconversation with folks about
what they're working on, Askquestions, have it be
conversational as opposed tofolks kind of speaking at you
while that's happening.
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Again, I've always enjoyed that.
There are a lot of students,like I say, that participate in
that, Typically at the Town andCountry.
We've had it out on the lawn,so the weather, of course.
You're in San Diego, you needto take advantage of it.
It is a fantastic venue and onthe other networking topics.
Francoise von Trapp (20:45):
We've got the Exhibitor Happy Hour, which
is on Wednesday before the panel, which generally leads to a
very exciting panel discussionbecause people are a little
loosened up.
Some of my favorite IMAPSmemories are from those panels.
What about Tuesday?
Is there anything going onTuesday evening that?
Erica Folk (21:05):
has a full program listed that day, but that does
appear like the evening.
That night is a little bit morefreed up from the standpoint
that because so many people aretraveling to the event, it's a
good opportunity that if peoplewant to have separate kind of
break off meetings, it lookslike that Tuesday evening is a
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good opportunity to do that.
We've got keynotes that happen,you know, in the morning of
course, and then sessions allafternoon.
Francoise von Trapp (21:33):
So Tuesday is the night that you plan to
have your customer meetings andcustomer dinner.
Yes, which is good to know.
You know we've got Monday.
There's the big party on Mondayon the Midway.
Tuesday is a free night.
Wednesday is the exhibitorreception, followed by the panel
discussion.
Thursday there's the postersession and the golf tournament,
which I'm sure still has someopenings.
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Maybe I know I'm playing golf.
Erica Folk (21:57):
I plan, but I just realized as we were having this
conversation that I need to makesure that I'm booked and signed
up.
But it is always part of myplan to go play, in that, while
I don't play often ornecessarily well, it is always
good company and lots of fun.
Francoise von Trapp (22:11):
I'm not a very good golfer either, but it
is that best ball.
It's a fun, fun event and Iplayed last year was for the
first time at DPC, so I'mexcited to play this time.
And we mentioned earlier Erica,we kind of touched on the fact
that you're the outgoingpresident and Dan Kruger will be
coming in.
What is that going to be likefor you, Like when does the
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handoff happen and how does thatall go?
Erica Folk (22:36):
The handoff actually happens Tuesday at the
symposium, and so I will moveinto the role of past president
and Dan will step in.
That is when everybody startstheir new terms that are coming
into office, but the election'sclosed recently.
This has been a fabulous twoyears as president but it was
two years before that aspresident-elect.
The people that I work with aregreat.
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All of us that are part of thatexecutive council are
volunteers, so we're giving ofour time because we believe in
IMAPs and we want to createvalue for those members.
I'm very humbled to serve inthat role and I can just tell
you how blessed I feel that I'vehad somebody like Beth Kesser
as a role model and a mentor forme.
She really paved the way andput some good structure in place
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and taught me some things andstill leans in at points and
helps me delegate tasks wheremaybe I may not get to them, and
I think that is a great skillto have somebody who's willing
to poke you and push you to dothings that are actually good
for you, and so Beth has donethat for me.
But Dan is going to come in andhe's going to do a great job.
A couple of things that havehappened during my presidency.
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That I'm just.
I'm lucky that they happenedduring my term.
It was more to the other greatvolunteers.
I'm lucky that they happenedduring my term.
It was more to the other greatvolunteers.
Imaps Academy rolled out.
Mark Gerber did a great jobtrying to pull that together,
but there's lots of folks thatwent into being the instructors.
Staff was absolutely involvedin every step of that and making
it happen.
So, with the heightenedvisibility to workforce
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development, but us alsoacknowledging the
microelectronics and packagingindustry and how much that's
needed to go educate people atall levels.
So if you haven't checked outthe IMAPS Academy, please go do
that.
Again, it's out there.
Habib Hirschi is now takingover that as well and pushing
that.
So if you've got ideas andthings you want to see, kick us
a note.
Let us know.
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Foundation has only continued togrow over the years.
Scott Hayes is now running thatas part of his strategic
objective.
Thank you to 3D Insights againat the donation that was
announced last March at DPC ofthe scholarship funds that have
rolled into that.
But we keep on looking for theright ways to use that money to
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engage students and bring themin because, again, they are our
future.
So I'm very proud of thosethings and what's happening, but
the credit doesn't go to me.
The credit goes to all thevolunteers and everybody that
has been part of this and it'sjust been great for me to have
exposure to so many great peoplethat have really made my job
easy, because everybody has sucha commitment to what we're
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doing and wanting to give backto the members of IMAPS.
Francoise von Trapp (25:10):
I'm always happy to remind people that
involvement in IMAPS, while it'senriching for your career, it
is a volunteer role and IMAPSwouldn't exist without all of
its great volunteers who all, bythe way, have day jobs, so be
sure to look into it.
We've had many conversationsabout how IMAPS helps to grow
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your career and the contacts andthe people that you meet and
the networking that happens, andit's really been for me.
Even at 3D Insights, I learnedeverything I know.
I can honestly say it allstarted at the first IMAPS
International Symposium back in2005.
I had to be at AdvancedPackaging Magazine for three
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weeks and that's how I learnedabout the industry, and then
also when I first started 3DInsights in 2009,.
Imaps BPC was the first eventthat I went to as an independent
journalist, so it's yeah, it'sbeen a ride.
Erica Folk (26:08):
That's a great plug too, because volunteering I've
picked up skills that I wasn'tmaybe necessarily getting in the
workplace quite the same way,right, whether it be developing
your skills, working with people, doing interviews, I think
there's a lot to be said for,you know, learning some of the
behind the scenes thing that youmight want If you have
aspirations of being a leaderwithin your company.
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You started at the volunteerlevel and I've plugged this many
times, it's that say yes if youget asked to volunteer, if
you've got the bandwidth, stepup and do it, because it really
is an opportunity for you.
Benson Chan (26:42):
I totally agree with what Erica said.
I think being part of IMAPS isreally one of the things that
helped me along my career.
You learn a lot about how to dothings, how to organize things
and, with the experience that Ihad early on in IMAPS putting
together the Mid-Atlanticconference, that I think this is
where I met Erica.
We worked a lot in how to put alocal conference together, so
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we had to understand abouthotels and understanding about
programs and who to call andwhat to do and set up things.
Those are things that not manypeople get a chance to see, but
they help you in your life.
When I came to Binghamton thesupposedly I have here they were
in the 70s 80s I have here theywere in the 70s 80s and I came
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in I basically the first year Igot it.
I got it over 250 and I got itup to like maybe 400, right.
Then I realized that's a littletoo much right, but I think the
fact that you can do it reallyis saying something.
Francoise von Trapp (27:40):
Right.
Just because you can do itdoesn't mean you have to, though
.
That is a really importantlesson to learn.
It is.
I'm super excited to see youboth.
What are we four weeks away?
So we'll see you soon.
And, people, if you want to golearn more, go to imapsorg and
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navigate to the imap symposium2025.
You'll find everything you needto know, and there's also a
really nice little video at TownCountry so you can get a
glimpse of what the environmentlooks like and who's there, and
we'll be putting that on ourhomepage for a week or so.
Thank you both for joining metoday.
It's always a pleasure.
Benson Chan (28:21):
Thank you.
Erica Folk (28:23):
Thank you.
It's always good to work withyou, friends, boss, thank you,
thank you.
Benson Chan (28:26):
It's always good to work with you.
Prince Paul, thank you forgiving us a chance to talk about
this.
Francoise von Trapp (28:37):
We'll see you soon Next time on the 3D
Insights Podcast, we've gotanother event preview for you.
I'll be speaking with JoeStakounis, President of Semi
Americas, to learn all about thechanges coming to Semicon West
2025.
We've got a new time of year, anew city, a new venue, a new
program, and it's taking placethe week right after IMAP
Symposium.
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It's going to be a ride.
There's lots more to come, sotune in next time to the 3D
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Hi there, I'm Francoise vonTrapp, and this is the 3D
Insights Podcast.
Hi everyone.
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Well, we've had another triparound the sun and it's time for
this year's preview of the IMAPInternational Symposium, which
happens September 29th toOctober 2nd and, as it does,
alternate years.
This year's event takes placeat the Town Country Resort in
San Diego.
So here to tell us all about itare Benson Chan, this year's
General Chair, and Erica Folk,outgoing IMAPS president.
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So welcome to the podcast.
Thank you, glad to be here.
So how's your summer been?
It's been great.
Erica Folk (01:12):
We had lots of travel.
We finally took the trip thatwe planned for 2020 and got
postponed and then canceled.
So now it's happened for realand we're super excited about it
, had a lot of fun there, therewas lots of soccer for us and
yet, with all that crammed inthe summer, it's really hard to
believe that it is time to sendeverybody back to school.
Francoise von Trapp (01:30):
Right?
Well, they've already gone backto school here in Arizona,
because they have year roundschool here.
So they went back at the end ofJuly, believe it or not, but
it's hot, so you might as wellstick kids in an air conditioned
building and teach them Benson.
How about you?
Have you had a good summer?
Benson Chan (01:46):
It's been a crazy summer.
It's been fast, Definitelylooking forward to the time-maps
.
Unfortunately, I also have tohave my own symposium.
That's going to happen thefirst week of September, so I
plan for both.
So after that we'll take somebreaks.
Francoise von Trapp (01:58):
Right, so you're general chair of this
year's event, but year's event.
But you also, in your day job,are at Binghamton University.
Benson Chan (02:05):
Yes.
Francoise von Trapp (02:07):
And so every year you have your own
symposium.
Benson Chan (02:09):
Exactly, it's from the Trinx Packaging Symposium.
It's one of the few symposiumsthat's dedicated to the
Northeast and it has the samekind of topics, same kind of
people.
But I think really, what's niceabout it?
It's a smaller conference.
We basically hold it to 250.
And you know, a lot of thetopics we have are similar.
We have a great panel this yearon co-packaged optics, which I
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think will be fantastic.
Jan is going to have one atIMAPS this year.
Francoise von Trapp (02:38):
Okay, yes, she is.
So now you've both been on thepodcast before and, benson, you
just started, but can you justremind us of your roles both at
IMAPS and the microelectronicsindustry?
Erica Sure.
Erica Folk (02:51):
Currently I am the president of IMAPS.
I stepped into this role inOctober 2023 at the conference
when it was at San Diego Townand Country last time, and I
will be handing over the torchto Dan Kruger at that conference
, coming up here in the next fewweeks.
Microelectronics I started inthat industry when I was in grad
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school, working on LTCC.
That was where I had my firstexposure to IMAPS.
I met folks at my currentemployer there.
My advisor got us into it.
We had student booths atconferences.
From there I continued intosemiconductors, both in
fabrication and design atNorthrop Grumman.
Imaps has been a great way forme to stay informed of what's
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going on in the industry beyondjust aerospace and defense.
Francoise von Trapp (03:40):
And Benson at Binghamton University.
What is your role beyond doingthe symposium?
I'm sure there's much, muchmore that you do.
Benson Chan (03:48):
So at the university I'm the associate
director for the S3IP, which isa small-scale systems
integration package.
It's a center of excellencesponsored by New York State.
We basically are an umbrellaorganization for about six
research centers withinBinghamton that mainly focuses
on electronics six researchcenters within bigington that we
mainly focus on electronics.
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There'll be pieces looking atreliability, materials
development, uh modeling.
We have another center lookingat energy efficiency for data
centers.
We have a center looking attransport hybrid electronics, so
they're tied in with xbox, uh.
We have another center that'slooking at heterogeneous
integration but respect toadvanced thermal solutions, and
then we have another the lastlab really's looking at
heterogeneous integration butrespect to advanced thermal
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solutions, and then we haveanother.
The last lab really is lookingat how to create solar cells and
supercapacitors usingmulti-materials versus using
amorphous silicon.
You know wafers and buildingsubscrides on.
So it's really a way togenerate those functions in a
way that we can actuallytranslate that into a rotor
manufacturing line to makereally cheap solar cells and
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supercapacitors.
Francoise von Trapp (04:52):
Yeah, I always forget how much is going
on in New York State.
I mean, there is a lothappening in the advanced
packaging space.
Even so, that really probablyis good for people coming to the
university because there's alot of options for them from
there.
Benson Chan (05:06):
Oh, definitely, definitely.
I think you know we have allthe major topics in it.
You know engineering as well asyou know science, physics and
chemistry.
We actually get all thesegroups involved in packaging.
You know we have projectsinvolving physics where they're
doing, uh, ab initio modeling ofatoms in the structure, like
create a model of inner metallic, understand how that behaves.
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If I throw in differentelements into that solder, what
is it going to do to themechanical properties, the
thermal properties?
So it's not just physics, it'sreally.
How do you get, you know,materials that developed using
modeling, using AI, and say whatcan we do with this?
Can we try now to get someoneto actually synthesize it,
actually test it?
That's in play.
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And also, we have a big effortin energy storage.
We are a MSF engines for energystorage as well as a large
center that was just put inplace two years ago.
We're actually going to bebuilding prototype lines for
building batteries in eithercylindrical or prismatic, so
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anyone could come to the lineand say I have a new formulation
, I'm going to build this.
You know, build prototypes thatnow they could go and ask for
money.
Francoise von Trapp (06:18):
So a lot's happening there.
Yes, so let's talk IMAPs.
You have a very busy fallcoming up.
I understand I mean you'remostly going to talk about the
symposium, but there's otherthings happening before the
symposium.
Erica Folk (06:30):
Absolutely so.
Next up on our list is theon-shoring event which is coming
up here just in a couple weeks.
It is in Pentagon City in thatarea.
So if you're anywhere near DCand you have an interest in
supporting onshoring fabricationof microelectronics and being
part of that effort, please lookinto that and attend.
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It's a great event.
It was originally scheduled forApril and got pushed back into
September, so this is a new timeslot for us, but it is a great
event.
Also, there is a new eventthat's going to be happening in
Silicon Valley.
This is the IMAPS ExecutiveSummit.
This is something that has beenpulled together, actually
rather quickly, so you will haveseen announcements come out
(07:15):
just recently about it, but thiswas a grassroots event that
started from that local chapter.
They surveyed their members,they were trying to get their
chapter revitalized and folkssaid, hey, this is something we
think would be of value to us.
It's got a fantastic program.
Anyone should considerattending, but especially if
you're local, you should takeadvantage of this.
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It is the week before the IMAPsymposium, so I recognize
schedule-wise that might bechallenging, but it has a great
lineup and it does focus a loton the marketing and the
strategy.
So if you're somebody that'slooking at things kind of at
that 30,000 foot view, thiswould be a fantastic opportunity
for you.
Again.
If you're somebody that's local, it's a great opportunity to
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network and meet the folksaround you that you may be
working with and can make thoseconnections, be working with and
can make those connections.
And then, of course, after thatcomes Symposium, which again
starts September 29th.
This is a packed fall seasonfor us, but we've got on-shoring
in its new time slot of theyear and then this Executive
Summit that's coming up, soplease pencil those in and
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consider them on your calendars.
Francoise von Trapp (08:21):
I'm actually very excited about the
Executive Summit because I wasasked to moderate a panel on
market trends semiconductorpackaging as a strategic
differentiator and that'shappening at two o'clock on
September 24th, so I hope to seeyou there, and then, of course,
I will see you all at thesymposium the following week.
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So it's going to turn out to bea pretty busy fall for me as
well, because the week afterthat it's Semicon West.
So, as far as the symposiumgoes, benson, what's new for
this year?
Benson Chan (08:53):
Sure, I think one of the things that we're really
proud of is that you know wehave a track system where we
basically focus on differenttopics within packaging, and
what we did this year was webasically shuffled everything
together and tried to maketracks make more sense and more
focused.
So now, instead of the five weused to have, now we have six.
It's evenly spread so peoplecan actually say I want to go to
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track one versus track fivebecause it makes more sense.
So we hope to give you a muchbetter experience in presenting
the materials that people wantto put out there.
But one of the things that wealso added to this symposium is,
instead of having the first daybeing just PDCs and the welcome
reception, we basically filledin the gap between the end of
the PDCs and the reception andwe're basically hosting panels
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right.
So now we've got an extraopportunity to actually bring
more topics to our attendees bygiving the chance to interact
with presenters and panelists.
The first panel is going to bethermal and thermomechanical
challenges and opportunities inadvanced packaging.
We're going to talk about whatare we going to do to try to
understand how to take care ofthe heat, how are you going to
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do the modeling.
What's the role of simulation,of multi-physics as well?
As you know, ai designs Thingsthat will help you understand
how things are going to behaveand make sure that whatever
you're going to design is goingto be reliable and be able to
function at the temperaturesexpected at the hologramy that's
going to put out.
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We have a HIR, which is the Headof Junior Simulation Roadmap
workshop.
That's going to be split in two.
One is going to be more a paneltalking about what are the
challenges to roadmap, what'sgoing to be expected?
One is going to be introducingRavi Mahajan.
That's going to be replacingBill Chen as the head of HIR, so
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that's going to be exciting.
Chen as the head of HR, sothat's going to be exciting.
He brings a different formulato this thing but, I think,
equally driven as far asunderstanding what's going to
happen and how to help companiesunderstand and prepare for the
future.
The last piece is going to be apanel on co-package optics and
also co-design efforts.
How can we improve the designmethodology to actually create
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better packages?
Francoise von Trapp (11:07):
This is new , that we're having the panels.
I saw the keynotes that arehappening.
I think you've got three onTuesday and one on Wednesday and
one on Thursday.
When are the panel discussionshappening?
Benson Chan (11:18):
This is all happening on Monday.
Francoise von Trapp (11:21):
All the panels are on Monday.
Benson Chan (11:22):
All the panels are on Monday.
Francoise von Trapp (11:24):
Oh, I thought it was professional
development courses on Monday.
Benson Chan (11:27):
Right after the PDCs.
So PDCs run from eight to three.
Right after that is going to bethe first panel.
So we're going to fill fromthree to five.
Francoise von Trapp (11:34):
With panel discussions.
Right, I better get my buttthere, because I was going to
drive out on Monday.
Benson Chan (11:41):
I think that's going to be.
Francoise von Trapp (11:42):
The exciting part is really
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no-transcript, because you mightwant to come in on Sunday so
that you're there to hit theground running on Monday, or
make sure you're flying Mondaymorning so that you don't miss
those panels because there'ssomething new.
It's not something they've hadin the past.
Yeah Well, I'm glad we had thisconversation.
Erica Folk (12:27):
So the extra plug there, francoise, is not just
the panels, which are great,right, and folks should totally
consider the PDCs if that'ssomething on their list, because
we've got a great group forthat as well.
But again, get in early andRSVP for the midway reception.
Yes, I am super excited aboutthat.
This is something that staffhas been working on.
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It was an idea they had,because we're in a location that
has that feel and thatavailability, and to be out
there on the aircraft carrier, Iam just so super excited about
that.
As we've been going through theplanning.
There's going to be tours,there's going to be a
demonstration.
A VR like this is going to beawesome.
You have to RSVP, though, somake sure that when you register
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that you also RSVP.
Francoise von Trapp (13:14):
I did that before I even registered for the
conference.
When that?
Email came out and I was likeI'm going on that, except I've
been on the midway before andyou will see me above decks
because I discovered that I am alittle claustrophobic.
And I discovered that on themidway because I remember going
through the tour and you go downand down and down and then when
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you, when I came out, I wassuddenly took a big breath.
Erica Folk (13:39):
It makes you really appreciate the folks that serve
our country and have to be onships like that for many months
at a time.
Francoise von Trapp (13:47):
Yeah, and they're huge.
It's huge.
But then when you're downinside, everything is designed
for efficiency.
Everything has its place.
It's very, very cool to gothrough.
Erica Folk (13:57):
I'll also say at the mid-ray reception there is a
special surprise and a photo op.
If folks want to just keep that, that is the only hint you're
getting from me right now.
Francoise von Trapp (14:09):
Okay, so let's talk a little bit about
the keynote.
Benson Chan (14:13):
The topics for the keynotes are really what's
going to be driving the industry.
You know, hopefully in the nextcouple of years we have some
great keynotes.
I mean we've got, you know,subu's going to be talking about
worker chips, we've got GlennDavies, we've got Tariq Ibrahim
from Intel and Hamer from AMD.
I mean these are all greattopics, right, talking about all
the challenges and see what'scoming, what's going to be, you
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know, pushing the industry.
What's pushing packaging?
You know whether it's materialsor even just designs, materials
or even just designs.
So, again, this, this is goingto be a great opportunity to
talk to the, you know, theleaders in industry and
hopefully, you know, out of theQ and A's, you'll get something
useful out of it.
Francoise von Trapp (14:53):
Lots of stuff happening beyond just the
technology tracks, lots to learnabout of you know what's
driving the industry, whatpeople can expect going forward,
which is, I think, somethingwe've all been looking forward
to learning.
I feel like we've been on holda little bit, so hopefully this
gets things moving.
This year's IMAPS symposium isco-located with the Thermal
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Management Conference, so howhas that worked?
Benson Chan (15:18):
This is a new event that's going to be put
together for IMAPS, focusedsolely on thermal.
The symposium is going to runfrom Monday to Thursday and
they're going to run fromWednesday to Friday, so what's
nice about it is you got a wayof, if you're attending, you can
also just, you know, add acouple of days and say I can
learn more things about you knowwhat's really focused on
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thermal?
What are you doing as far asremoving heat from a one
kilowatt device?
Right?
Those are the challenges.
Francoise von Trapp (15:48):
Now we've covered like the content, and
let's talk a little bit about myfavorite topics, which is the
student involvement and thenetworking, oh, and also the
exhibit.
So one of the things I knowabout the San Diego event is
that there's generally highschool students coming to the
show and taking everything in,and there is a big commitment
with IMAPS to promote the nextgeneration.
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So what can we expect?
This?
Erica Folk (16:15):
year.
I would expect something verysimilar to what we've done in
previous years.
We've had a high amount ofengagement and success with the
high school students that havecome in and success with the
high school students that havecome in.
Typically, we've got a programwhere we've brought in
technologists and folks thathave been volunteers within
IMAPS to speak to the studentsand then take them out on the
exhibit floor.
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So please be prepared, ifyou're exhibiting, to engage
these students Know that theyare excited, but maybe a little
shy and awkward because theyhaven't been in this type of
environment before.
So ask them questions or beprepared to show them how great
your technology is.
You'll be surprised.
I know that I'm blown away allthe time by the new applications
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and resumes that I'm seeingfrom students out there.
They're absolutely phenomenal.
So you can expect to see thingslike that.
But again, please make themfeel welcome and engage them
while they're here, because youwill see them on the exhibit
floor and again, we willprobably have a handful of
speakers lined up to kind ofgive them just some indication
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of what they might expect, asthey're looking forward to both
getting advanced degrees andthen also going through and just
joining the workforce.
Francoise von Trapp (17:26):
I always have so much fun talking to them
and we usually get them on apodcast and it's probably the
highlight of the podcastingbecause they have so much energy
, they love to talk.
Usually Adrienne brings mesomebody who is not so shy and
then they like to talk about.
You know why?
They're interested inmicroelectronics and all of the
cool stuff they're seeing on thefloor.
Erica Folk (17:47):
Absolutely, and you know I focused Francoise on the
high school students in thatportion of the program.
But we do have a fair amount ofuniversity students that are
attending both undergrad andgraduate students, and you can
see where they're from on theprogram.
There's lots of them that dothe posters and they absolutely
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love having folks from industryengage them and ask them about
the work that they're doing inschool.
So please don't miss the pizzasand poster portion of the event
as well.
And that's thursday, uhthursday at lunch.
Benson Chan (18:16):
and then the other thing I want to bring up is
imaps is going to be doing whatthey did last year, which is
actually offering universities abooth right right In the
exhibit area where the schoolcan do whatever they want in
that booth.
But I think a lot of them willactually show research that's
being done at universities, oreven just the students
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presenting their own posters.
I think what's nice about it isto get an opportunity to talk
to the industry right gives abetter meaning to what their
research is really about,because a lot of times the
research it's a topic that maybethe faculty decided on and then
now they see, well, oh, this iswhere it can lead to and maybe
it can guide their research alittle.
Francoise von Trapp (18:53):
Yeah, I talked to a student at IMF's
device packaging who that wasexactly it.
How he got into advancedpackaging was, you know, his
undergraduate degree wasn'tspecific in advanced packaging,
but he found that path and itmight have been something to do
with thermal, I can't remember.
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But anyway, speaking of studentinvolvement, you mentioned the
posters.
Talk a little bit about theannual posters and pizza session
.
That usually wraps things up on.
Erica Folk (19:26):
Thursday?
Right, it does, and so it's oneof those things too.
While you're planning yourtravel and planning to come
early on Monday so that you getto see all the panels, please
try to stay around for lunch onThursday, because that's when
all the posters are displayed.
Years ago, we started thisportion of the conference as a
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way to go display things thatyou know maybe didn't quite fit
within a topic, based on the waythe sessions were put together,
maybe because somebodypreferred to do a poster to have
that engagement with folks thatway as opposed to presenting in
a session.
But it's turned out that thatevent has been so successful
that we actually have peoplethat present in sessions that go
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.
Can I put a poster up too?
Right with my work, Because itis so engaging?
So, again, there's food, that'sthere.
That's part of that event, butit's an opportunity to really
have a little bit more intimateconversation with folks about
what they're working on, Askquestions, have it be
conversational as opposed tofolks kind of speaking at you
while that's happening.
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Again, I've always enjoyed that.
There are a lot of students,like I say, that participate in
that, Typically at the Town andCountry.
We've had it out on the lawn,so the weather, of course.
You're in San Diego, you needto take advantage of it.
It is a fantastic venue and onthe other networking topics.
Francoise von Trapp (20:45):
We've got the Exhibitor Happy Hour, which
is on Wednesday before the panel, which generally leads to a
very exciting panel discussionbecause people are a little
loosened up.
Some of my favorite IMAPSmemories are from those panels.
What about Tuesday?
Is there anything going onTuesday evening that?
Erica Folk (21:05):
has a full program listed that day, but that does
appear like the evening.
That night is a little bit morefreed up from the standpoint
that because so many people aretraveling to the event, it's a
good opportunity that if peoplewant to have separate kind of
break off meetings, it lookslike that Tuesday evening is a
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good opportunity to do that.
We've got keynotes that happen,you know, in the morning of
course, and then sessions allafternoon.
Francoise von Trapp (21:33):
So Tuesday is the night that you plan to
have your customer meetings andcustomer dinner.
Yes, which is good to know.
You know we've got Monday.
There's the big party on Mondayon the Midway.
Tuesday is a free night.
Wednesday is the exhibitorreception, followed by the panel
discussion.
Thursday there's the postersession and the golf tournament,
which I'm sure still has someopenings.
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Maybe I know I'm playing golf.
Erica Folk (21:57):
I plan, but I just realized as we were having this
conversation that I need to makesure that I'm booked and signed
up.
But it is always part of myplan to go play, in that, while
I don't play often ornecessarily well, it is always
good company and lots of fun.
Francoise von Trapp (22:11):
I'm not a very good golfer either, but it
is that best ball.
It's a fun, fun event and Iplayed last year was for the
first time at DPC, so I'mexcited to play this time.
And we mentioned earlier Erica,we kind of touched on the fact
that you're the outgoingpresident and Dan Kruger will be
coming in.
What is that going to be likefor you, Like when does the
(22:34):
handoff happen and how does thatall go?
Erica Folk (22:36):
The handoff actually happens Tuesday at the
symposium, and so I will moveinto the role of past president
and Dan will step in.
That is when everybody startstheir new terms that are coming
into office, but the election'sclosed recently.
This has been a fabulous twoyears as president but it was
two years before that aspresident-elect.
The people that I work with aregreat.
(22:57):
All of us that are part of thatexecutive council are
volunteers, so we're giving ofour time because we believe in
IMAPs and we want to createvalue for those members.
I'm very humbled to serve inthat role and I can just tell
you how blessed I feel that I'vehad somebody like Beth Kesser
as a role model and a mentor forme.
She really paved the way andput some good structure in place
(23:19):
and taught me some things andstill leans in at points and
helps me delegate tasks wheremaybe I may not get to them, and
I think that is a great skillto have somebody who's willing
to poke you and push you to dothings that are actually good
for you, and so Beth has donethat for me.
But Dan is going to come in andhe's going to do a great job.
A couple of things that havehappened during my presidency.
(23:40):
That I'm just.
I'm lucky that they happenedduring my term.
It was more to the other greatvolunteers.
I'm lucky that they happenedduring my term.
It was more to the other greatvolunteers.
Imaps Academy rolled out.
Mark Gerber did a great jobtrying to pull that together,
but there's lots of folks thatwent into being the instructors.
Staff was absolutely involvedin every step of that and making
it happen.
So, with the heightenedvisibility to workforce
(24:02):
development, but us alsoacknowledging the
microelectronics and packagingindustry and how much that's
needed to go educate people atall levels.
So if you haven't checked outthe IMAPS Academy, please go do
that.
Again, it's out there.
Habib Hirschi is now takingover that as well and pushing
that.
So if you've got ideas andthings you want to see, kick us
a note.
Let us know.
(24:23):
Foundation has only continued togrow over the years.
Scott Hayes is now running thatas part of his strategic
objective.
Thank you to 3D Insights againat the donation that was
announced last March at DPC ofthe scholarship funds that have
rolled into that.
But we keep on looking for theright ways to use that money to
(24:44):
engage students and bring themin because, again, they are our
future.
So I'm very proud of thosethings and what's happening, but
the credit doesn't go to me.
The credit goes to all thevolunteers and everybody that
has been part of this and it'sjust been great for me to have
exposure to so many great peoplethat have really made my job
easy, because everybody has sucha commitment to what we're
(25:06):
doing and wanting to give backto the members of IMAPS.
Francoise von Trapp (25:10):
I'm always happy to remind people that
involvement in IMAPS, while it'senriching for your career, it
is a volunteer role and IMAPSwouldn't exist without all of
its great volunteers who all, bythe way, have day jobs, so be
sure to look into it.
We've had many conversationsabout how IMAPS helps to grow
(25:31):
your career and the contacts andthe people that you meet and
the networking that happens, andit's really been for me.
Even at 3D Insights, I learnedeverything I know.
I can honestly say it allstarted at the first IMAPS
International Symposium back in2005.
I had to be at AdvancedPackaging Magazine for three
(25:51):
weeks and that's how I learnedabout the industry, and then
also when I first started 3DInsights in 2009,.
Imaps BPC was the first eventthat I went to as an independent
journalist, so it's yeah, it'sbeen a ride.
Erica Folk (26:08):
That's a great plug too, because volunteering I've
picked up skills that I wasn'tmaybe necessarily getting in the
workplace quite the same way,right, whether it be developing
your skills, working with people, doing interviews, I think
there's a lot to be said for,you know, learning some of the
behind the scenes thing that youmight want If you have
aspirations of being a leaderwithin your company.
(26:30):
You started at the volunteerlevel and I've plugged this many
times, it's that say yes if youget asked to volunteer, if
you've got the bandwidth, stepup and do it, because it really
is an opportunity for you.
Benson Chan (26:42):
I totally agree with what Erica said.
I think being part of IMAPS isreally one of the things that
helped me along my career.
You learn a lot about how to dothings, how to organize things
and, with the experience that Ihad early on in IMAPS putting
together the Mid-Atlanticconference, that I think this is
where I met Erica.
We worked a lot in how to put alocal conference together, so
(27:06):
we had to understand abouthotels and understanding about
programs and who to call andwhat to do and set up things.
Those are things that not manypeople get a chance to see, but
they help you in your life.
When I came to Binghamton thesupposedly I have here they were
in the 70s 80s I have here theywere in the 70s 80s and I came
(27:30):
in I basically the first year Igot it.
I got it over 250 and I got itup to like maybe 400, right.
Then I realized that's a littletoo much right, but I think the
fact that you can do it reallyis saying something.
Francoise von Trapp (27:40):
Right.
Just because you can do itdoesn't mean you have to, though
.
That is a really importantlesson to learn.
It is.
I'm super excited to see youboth.
What are we four weeks away?
So we'll see you soon.
And, people, if you want to golearn more, go to imapsorg and
(28:02):
navigate to the imap symposium2025.
You'll find everything you needto know, and there's also a
really nice little video at TownCountry so you can get a
glimpse of what the environmentlooks like and who's there, and
we'll be putting that on ourhomepage for a week or so.
Thank you both for joining metoday.
It's always a pleasure.
Benson Chan (28:21):
Thank you.
Erica Folk (28:23):
Thank you.
It's always good to work withyou, friends, boss, thank you,
thank you.
Benson Chan (28:26):
It's always good to work with you.
Prince Paul, thank you forgiving us a chance to talk about
this.
Francoise von Trapp (28:37):
We'll see you soon Next time on the 3D
Insights Podcast, we've gotanother event preview for you.
I'll be speaking with JoeStakounis, President of Semi
Americas, to learn all about thechanges coming to Semicon West
2025.
We've got a new time of year, anew city, a new venue, a new
program, and it's taking placethe week right after IMAP
Symposium.
(28:57):
So buckle up, folks.
It's going to be a ride.
There's lots more to come, sotune in next time to the 3D
Insights Podcast.
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