Welcome to the inaugural episode of Four From the South, where every week our hosts Fabrizio Copano and Steve Hely will break down four different stories from the great continent we like to call “The Americas”. This week, Fabrizio gives us the inside scoop on the writing of Chile’s new constitution, which is pretty crazy when you think about it. They’re scrapping the old one, and starting from scratch! One of the members of the constitutional convention likes to dress up as Pikachu. Then the guys look at El Salvador’s millennial president Nayib Bukele’s decision to make Bitcoin legal tender in his country. Thirdly, Steve and Fab marvel at a new wasp that was discovered in the Amazon, and to wrap up the show, Fab introduces us to the legend of Marcelo Bielsa, the legendary argentine soccer coach dubbed “El Loco”.
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Speaker 1 (00:01):
It's boss Steve. Here we go, old Welcome to four
from the South. High fro Brizzio. How are you doing.
(00:22):
I'm great. I'm really happy to be part of this show.
Me too. I'm happy you're part of the show too.
Let's introduce ourselves. This is the pilot episode of our
new show called Four from the South. My name is
Steve Healey. I am a writer mostly for TV shows.
I read for thirty Rock, The Office, Sleep, American Dad.
And you are my friend, Fabrizio Capano. Yes, I'm from Chile.
(00:44):
I'm a comedian. I started there doing comedy shows everywhere,
in farms, in churches, you know, in a mind, famously
to a comedy show in the mine in a mind
with the famous Chilean miners. And then I moved to
the States start all over again, doing comedy for drunk Americans,
white boys, like Woost of ninety nine kind of audiences.
(01:06):
You were one of the first. You really brought stand
up comedia, extend up comedy to children, brought laughter to
that country. No one had laughed, no one had ever
laughed before, and now there's a whole industry around it.
So yes, you started doing comedy in like tango clubs,
and they didn't know. They didn't have had no place,
They had no comedy store, they had no improv they
(01:27):
had no Oh My Ribs or wherever they do comedy
here in Los Angeles. At the beginning, Yeah, there was nothing.
And now well there's a couple of really great comedic
clubs I think even better than once here because they
have like the energy of something new. Hey, they can
pay to advertise, okay, that you don't need to give
them free publicity. Yeah, this is not what our podcast
(01:48):
is about. What our podcasting it's called four from the South.
And our idea here is that we here in the
United States, like it or not, we are part of
Latin America. Maybe at one time we were part of
europe America, kind of British America. It is to just
have been too many Latino people have come to the
United States. Our culture has become very much like that
of Latin America. Cous dictators, mysterious businessmen running same energy,
(02:13):
constitutional chaos, the vibe. We have a Latin America five now,
but so many of us here in the United States
we don't have a lot of knowledge about what's going
on in Mexico, Central America, South America. So what are
we doing on the show. We're gonna have bring you
that energy. We're gonna bring you the four stories every
week so you can figure out your feature. The show
(02:36):
is about you can see coming, Prepare for the future.
That's the idea here, get ready for what's coming down
the pike. And the way we do that is Tim
telling you four the craziest stories of the week from anywhere.
But I think we can include the United States in
our purview. But we're gonna get a lot of stories
from South America, stories from Central America, stories from Mexico,
(02:59):
and just let you fill you in on what's going
on down there. No Canada, that's the only rule. I
think that somewhere around like Portland, Oregon or so, Latin
America does their little pockets up there. But then and
then Canada they're still hanging on. Someday maybe Canada will
be part of Latin America, will bring them down. It's
(03:20):
a matter of time to bring you down. Latin America
is growing. Like maybe this isn't a metaphor people from
Latin America would love, but it's like a mold consuming
a lemon. Or well yeah, maybe, yeah, it's like venom.
You know, it's just like you know, eating the whole
personality of the continent. But I love it. I mean
(03:40):
I feel like home. Uh it's it's great and I
think some something good is going to come out of
this transition. I think there's gonna be a lot of
excitement and dynamism and good in that. So we can
embrace it celebrated, you know what. I sort of represent
the gringo perspective on the show. You're allowed to fear
it and have concerns about what it's like to be
in Latin America, but let's just admit that this is
(04:01):
part of our life and we have to learn about it.
So the first story of the week. We're gonna do
four stories a week, and Fat I think you're going
to lead us in with the first story because it's
from your home country of Chile, exactly. I want to
start this podcast. We did. It's not a new yeah,
it's it's something new in a way, but it's been
going for a minute now. We started like kind of
(04:22):
a revolution movement in October nineteen up to those in
nineteen and Chile went to this whole craziness before the
pandemic of trying to figure out how to change the constitution.
You know, they were riots, they were like people angry
in the streets. The government was like almost uh you know,
the guy goes almost getting impeached. It was a mess.
(04:43):
And then they decided the way to figure out this
is just like rewrite the constitution. The problem with the
all Constitution is that it was grown. It was wrote
by pinot Chet, the dictator. So everyone was like, that's
not for us, and I'll have a lot of rules
that I think are like not helpful for poor people
or middle class people in Chile. So it was time
to rewrite this thing. And I know for Americans that's impossible.
(05:05):
The idea of like rewriting the constitutions like like, I
in my mind, I don't know if I'm write about this.
It's like if someone decided, let's rewrite the Bible. Yes,
it's like rewriting the Ten Commandments. It's like there's one
time when they nailed it and we can't touch it. Yeah,
but what about we find we find new people and
we rewrite the Bible. That's that's for me, what's going
(05:28):
on in Chile. So it's crazy, you know, it's it's
it's a crazy idea. And so we had an election,
we vote for I think it's a hundred and twenty
two conventionals and for different districts. And these are the
people who is right now at this moment in time
writing actually like they're starting writing like the rules of
the convention because they're not even like in the part
(05:50):
of writing the actual constitution. But every day there's new
stories about what's going on over there. But this is
the part of that I really want to put my
attention to. During this whole thing, during the riots, all
back to two thousand nineteen, one woman, I'm lower middle
class woman. Uh in her yeah, she's forty six, she
(06:12):
was forty five at the time for and she she
was with her daughter, and her daughter went online and
she by accident bought Pikachu costume from Ali Express. Okay,
so by accident, your daughter, you know, get a Pikachu costume.
Apartient accident, maybe your daughter just really wanted to Well
(06:35):
that's probably well, the thing is she pretended was an accident.
The Pikachu arrived. Then one day all this riots start
and this woman was angry. You know, you know her
life was not easy, so she decided to wear this
Pikachu costume and go to the streets of Santiago, Chile
and dance, and that created the character of Aunt Pikachu.
(07:00):
This woman is called Jovanna Grendon and she's famously known
as unpeek at You. And she started dancing and there's
a viral videw of she falling on this on the floor.
Because dancing with that costume is not a great idea,
so she's not dancing with it. She phoned floor everyone
can look for dance Peakachu Chile and you can see
her falling, and that video went viral. She became a character,
(07:22):
national character. She was like part of, like the whole movement.
And then she run as one of the person writing
the constitution. And right now she's frighting the Constitution. Can't
you imagine going from your daughter buying an alex Press
Peekachi costume to then be part of the history of
(07:42):
your country in probably the most important position ever, that
is frighting the new Constitution. Incredible just by comparison at
the US Constitutional Convention when they had that in seventeen
nine or so, there there weren't even any women, let
alone any women addressed us famous cartoon characters at the time,
(08:02):
because there weren't the cartoon characters at the time. That's
how far back it was. And then we are trying
to live under a constitution in our cartoon filled era
where women are buying stuff on the internet. So today,
two days ago, in one of the when the breaks
of the constitution, she decided to wear the outfit. So
you've seen this prestigious building, like old building, where they're
(08:26):
writing this new form of living for a country. This
Pikachu woman. And then she was coming with two dinosaurs,
so she was Pikachu and two dinosaurs just walking to
write the new rules. So I love this. I think
there's so many movies in this story. You know, at
least there's five different movies. I don't know if Nintendo
(08:48):
is going to be down to this. I don't know
we're gonna be the rights of Pikachu. But guys, this
is better than the tactic Pikachu. It does seem like
there's an opportunity here for a Nintendo. Like if they're
like somebody in the country is dressing like one of
your characters to write the constitution, maybe you get in
on that send her a couple of extra costumes. Just
keep an eye on this situation. I love this story.
(09:11):
I mean, I I think it's um once again. She's
now kind of like this this kind of Chilean Avengers characters.
So there's like a guy called Partyman. We talked about
this once before, Steve, this guy who is with this
top sign as a it's like this Captain America shield ah,
(09:33):
and she and another guy who's there's a dinosaur, another
guy who's like the dancing spider Man. They all like,
you know, the heroes of this new country that is
growing in front of us. All of the Marvel universe
is represented at the Chilean Constitution, which is I think
should be. Has any have there been any like copycats
(09:55):
who tried to like get in a costume and ride
out to political stuff. Yeah, actually there's a lot of failure,
like failed characters in front of mine. Always send me
this Instagram links to characters who are not that famous,
you know. I remember there was like one called Malcolm Man.
Uh yeah, he was more famous, but like there was
(10:15):
another ones who are like that. They really didn't make
the cut. But I love the idea that there's actually
people right there outside who decided to wear a custom
and you know they want to change the world for real.
That's the that's the dream. That's great. Yeah, I know
how many of the people in the Chilean Constitutional Convention
are like career politicians or lawyers versus people just crazy
costume worrying. Not that many. I mean there's not a
(10:36):
lot of crazy costumes. It's just like two or three.
But actually, like the cool thing is like during the
whole process, they decided to open for independence people outside
political parties, and they have like the same ability of
like create lists and be part of the system we have.
Like I don't I don't know how to explain this system,
but we have a system of like you make a
list and in your list you have five people and
(10:58):
if they want on top get this amount of votes.
You also like bring two of your own list. So
and that for that you need a political party. But
in this case they allowed everyone. I mean, if you
find five people who want to be in a list
with you, boom, you have a list and you can
be part of it. So I don't know, from the
I think more than I mean around the forties something
(11:22):
percent is independent people outside political party that is just
enough to make it very exciting and crazy. I think
there's a lot of people who are really scared. I
mean a lot of people are really scared. And if
you go to Chili Chile and Twitter, uh, and if
you have access to Chilean Twitter, you will see a
lot of people be like, you're never working because you
(11:43):
can live Actually their live streaming every session, so there's
a lot of people watching the live stream like, these
guys are not working with payment to write a constitution.
They're not working. And if you're on Twitter, you're not
working either, right, I think, how hard are you supposed
to be working? It takes a little while, you know,
you got to get to know each other. Okay, we're
(12:04):
gonna We'll be following the story of the Chilean Constitutional
Convention as it goes on, because how often do you
does a country write a whole new constitution. It's kind
of rare, and it seems like they're doing it with
the best of intentions at least, whether it will succeed
or not. I am very positive allowed this. I know
that some people are not. I don't care about them.
I'm very happy with this. Next story, South America we
(12:39):
had a big one. There's a country out there. This
is a country in Central America and they have made
bitcoin legal tender. This is the country of El Salvador.
Lovely country, lovely country, about six million people. Not very big.
I've been to El Salvador and never been and never been.
Not a ton went on all. Most of the houses
(13:01):
look like they were made out of sticks in the
last like six months. But what about the comedy scene
in very minimal. They most people in Al Salvador who
are overage like twenty are survivors of the brutal civil war.
They have a high murder rate. They're famous for. Of course,
they're Gang Marisalva Tricca and its thirteen, which a lot
(13:23):
of people in the gang were like refugees from the war. Horrible, horrible,
horrible dark gang. Great name, amazing name, amazing, It's is good. Yeah.
I think they have this logo. I think that, you know,
I don't know. It's like there's something about when you
have a gang and even like I don't know, political
(13:43):
party that is dark or and and or ever any
institution of a group of people, they always have great
taste for the signs. I don't know what it is.
That's a good point. Yeah, they do better than most
like companies and everything that is positive. It's not it's
not you know how great shirts. You know, you don't
want to wear their logo, you know. Yeah, like that
(14:04):
non profit it's not going to have a good boring.
It was just like the world and kids playing boring.
There's a little it's like a little globe and it's
like yellow and green and it just doesn't and then
there's a hand coming out of it. No, gang is
going to have like a spider with a huge crazy
to give me that more that? Okay, so El Salvador
(14:26):
as a president. His name is Boo Kelly, now you Bookelly.
Very mysterious and strange guy. He looks kind of like
like hipster Dracula. You can look him up his Wikipedia page.
You'll get the vibe immediately. He's got a weird, like
too precisely trimmed beard. This is it's kind of good looking.
I have to say. It's kind of like a good
(14:47):
looking dude. I don't know. I'm not sharing. No, he's
not good looking. He's just like, um, what's the name
of this These people who like take care of their
beers and like they're Yes, he's a metrosexual, like very manicured. Yeah,
he takes care of the beard. He go to the
barbershop and he stayed there for a couple of hours.
(15:08):
He's you know, he's gonna smell of some kind of
essence he put on exactly. And he's a kind of
a strange guy because he's in this country called El Salvador,
possibly the only country named after Jesus Christ, and his
dad is a convert to Islam. I'm not sure where
Boukele falls in religion, but yeah, his his parents are
(15:32):
some kind of emigrations from Palestine and then they at
some point converted to Islam. So and he himself has
been seen praying in a mosque. It's just he's got
a murky but very religious five. I think. Well, something
interesting about this guy is that he's sometimes in if
you google him and a lot of pictures, he's weighing
this hat with white hat backwards. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah,
(15:54):
he looks like a guy from the club, you know,
and you haven't. I think this is the first time
ever I've seen a president doing of any country in
the world. Yeah, not very presidential, but it's working. For him.
It's working really well because make him look like he's
just like in the same spit and and I think
this is related to the bitcoin stuff. It's like in
the same universe of Elon musk Ye, you know, like
(16:18):
what's the name of the other guy? Uh, I don't know. Yeah,
he's in the generation of these Zuckerberg you know, entrepreneurial
neo futurists kind of jacks. Yeah, sus highly sus characters. Anyway,
(16:38):
he's declared uh bitcoin to be legal tender in El Salvador. Yeah, yeah,
And nobody really knows what that means because currently the
currency in El Salvador is the US dollars um, which
they don't really have enough of. Like of the money
in El Salvador comes from people in the US. But
the wait, they had their own money that no one use,
(17:00):
that's the thing, and so everyone used just dollars because
it's like more it's reliable. Now, Okay, I got it,
I got it. I thought that they had changed and
they didn't even bother having their own currency. And what
happened with you you have a country that you have
problems with money, It's like everyone's like just moved to
dollars because it's just like some money that's going to
work something tomorrow. Okay, a steady dollar. Well now they've
(17:20):
got the steadiest dollar, a ball, the bitcoin, the bitcoin,
So okay, what are we doing here? What's going on?
Most people and also are don't even have a cell phone.
Uh there, it's a largely agricultural kind of place. What
are we doing? What's the move here? Uh? Well, there's
two things one in one side. This is kind of
(17:41):
like a cool thing to do that. You know, we're
talking about this country again for something very different. You know,
like most of the time with this news a ball
it's however, they're not good news, you know, and I'm
not sure this is good news, but it's it's it's different,
you know, it's like it's interesting. It's interesting thing. Ah
but now all solved or back in the in the conversation.
(18:04):
You're right, you're right. But now it's this like something
that people gonna make more money through it. I don't
think so. Um yeah maybe maybe you and me. I
think we're like, you know, decent people, but there's some
indecent people out there. Then I'm sure like I can
make some shady business in bait cooins and no one
(18:27):
will full the track and over there, it's gonna be
even harder to like know what I'm doing because bitcoin
is just like the money there. Okay, okay, yeah, maybe
it's a business that you can bring to Solvador. That's right.
Maybe he's saying we're open for business in the shady
economy that transaction bitcoin. You can send your bitcoin here,
(18:49):
turn it into some real estate, turn it back into bitcoin,
and no one contract. But isn't bitcoin the whole? Isn't
the whole idea that you know, bitcoin itself is already
kind of untraceable or or maybe it's super traceable in
one sense, but like you could hide your illegal gains
and bitcoin or move your money out of the whole
cause it's like there's not a central bank just checking
(19:10):
what's going on with your money. I I think that's
the deal. I mean, to be honest, I hate bitcom,
but not because of the way it works, because the
people who love bitcoin. That makes me hate bitcoin. It's
not about the bitcoin itself. It's just like the world
around bitcoin um in Latin America and this is happening
a lot probably in the US. Two But I never
I've never seen this here, but just like this, young
(19:33):
wanna be rich people who make this really like pyramid
schemes using bitcoin as an excuse. So they create like this. Uh,
I'm just gonna throw names like Ferrex Trading business school
for Bitcoin. So they dressing suits, they make these flyers
(19:55):
and they sell. Oh, I'm gonna make your workshop on bitcom.
You have to bring if people, it's free, just have
to bring fight. It's like that's the pyramid scheme. So
maybe yeah, it's bitcoins is just like a world of
douche bags and he's creating like a douche back country.
Or maybe it's just maybe it's a trap lord some
(20:16):
of those guys get him to Elsbo or grab him
take their bitcoin. You're good, I mean, could be positive.
I would like that they the nanny that the care
of my son Elsa is from el Salvo and Elsa
from Elsalvo. She asked me like the other day, what
is this bitcoin thing? What it means for for my life?
(20:38):
And I told her like yeah, now I'm just gonna
pay her and pay her bitcoins and I just make
a sound with my voice and I showed my phone
to her five times, like yeah, I just send you
a thousand bitcoins and she's like, thank you so much. Yeah,
I think she'll prefer paper money for a while. We're
not quite there yet with the bitcoin. Let's not pretending,
(20:59):
but I like the boll. We're not talking about Guatemala.
We're not talking my Posttrica. We're talking about El Salvador.
He he got it on the front page of the
Wall Street Journal, and just that has got to be
a victory for I think. Yeah, and guys, I recommend
to everyone to just google this guy. He's wearing like
different weird outfits. I don't know, it's an interesting guy
to look at. We'll put it in the show notes.
(21:20):
As they always say in the podcast, exactly do if
you ever looked at the show notes of a podcast,
I never presently what is related to, but they're always
promising to put everything in the show notes. We'll just
check out the show notes. You'll find it. As some
people are having finished the podcast, that you're gonna go
and read a magunch particles. But I want more. I
want more of these three our podcast. Okay, speaking of
(21:43):
parasitic schemes, Yeah, we do have to talk about and
this is a discovery in the Amazon. If you look
at this will be our third story today. If you
look at Central and South America in Mexico, if you
look at what south of the United States, the big
riby stake of it all is that big meaty part
of Brazil and it extends an Ecuador and Peru. The Amazon.
(22:05):
That's the big chunk of South America. Right. I don't
even know what percented is, but a huge amount. And
it's like the lungs of the planet, I think, so,
I think, I hope so. I mean it used to be,
but I think that they're cutting it down more and more.
But we had to have a crazy animal story on
our show because there are so many wonderful and crazy
(22:25):
animals in South America, and we will be covering the
natural world of South America as well. So they've discovered
a new wasp in the Amazon. The wasp was discovered
by these guys from the University of Turku, which is
I think is in Finland. So I don't know why
these guys were poking around in the Amazon, but they've
discovered a new wasp that's called dole komitis. Maybe, and
(22:48):
this is a nasty, weird but kind of wonderful creature.
And it's it's black in color, but it's like glitter.
If you have it in the light, it glitters. This
is from the The Science Daily description. It glitters electric blue.
So it looks really like crazy and weird. And apparently
this protects the wasp because like animals that see it
(23:10):
and something that looks this crazy, they're like, that's too poisonous.
I can't eat that. That's not for me. So they
leave the wasp alone. And the wasp has a super
long it's called ovipositor. This it's like a tube something
between a tongue and a penis and whatever that sticks
out of the wasp and and that's how the wasp reproduces.
And so what this wasp will do is it'll go
(23:32):
to a tree in the middle of the dense amazon.
It'll stick it's a little ovipositor in there, and it'll
find um some larvae of like another insect or a
spider like somebody else has already laid their eggs there.
And this wasp goes cool and it lays its egg
right on top of it, and the children of the wasp,
the little larvae of the wash, the babies. As soon
(23:56):
as they start getting going that they need some nourishment,
they just eat the other the larvae of the other insects.
They're there before they're even born. They're eating babies. Okay.
And what's more, this wasp can it can They'll lay
they can lay on a certain kind of spider and
it will attack the spider in its web and paralyze it.
(24:19):
And then it kind of like takes over the spider
and it makes the spider spin a web that's actually
just a really good nest for this wasp and then
it eats the spider and that's it. That's so cool. Yeah,
it's pretty amazing. But also, I mean nature is quite
scary things because nature is just cruel. They don't care
about any moral rules or any all these things that
(24:42):
we care. They're like, no, that doesn't happen here, guys.
I love this, Like these neat documentaries, like old ones
when they tried to put voices in animals and it's like, yeah,
I'm hungry, mama. And actually in real life they would like,
just like I don't know, murdering each other and like
killing babies, and yeah, that's life. This is baby is
killing babies. This is how it goes down down there
(25:03):
at the heart of that. You know what what I
was thinking when you explain me all of this. I
can imagine someone from Bolsonnaro's Brazilian government trying to explain
this to Bollsonaro with that excitement. You mean, like he's like, oh,
just burned, burned that down, just like I don't. I
don't care at all about any mysterial of life, just
like oil out of them. Yeah, yeah, that's it's a
(25:27):
good argument for burning down the Amazon abord Do you
think abortions bath? This is wasp is eating the inside
the little tiny babies, eating them. The Amazon is gross
and scary. Making rubber to make condoms out of this,
you know, so that's way better than this animal making
(25:47):
wood and hamburgers and this horrible wasp on. Do you
want to protect this wasp that's disgusting. Yeah. I also think,
by the way, this was the story of this waspon
there's always like with the villain in a movie he
tells the story of like there's a as I'm not
a bad guy. This is this is just like, well, um,
(26:18):
I I have a final story, okay, please it better
be a good uplifting story or well I thought about
this because we're talking about the Olympics. Of course, the
Olympics are going on right now. Have you watched any
of it? I've watched tons. But really I feel like
in my life, the Olympics were always around me and
I never had to find them. They were like a
(26:40):
TV on with the Olympics, you know, And I think
this is the first year of my life that I
have to like actually go for the Olympics and find
them around me. I mean I don't have cable, I
just have like internet and stuff. So like the I
think the Olympics are not like that easy to digest
as before. Just in my specific case, the time difference
(27:01):
has been killer for one thing. And then the NBC
peacock whatever they're trying to get you to watch it
on all these different absence it's not working. Just put
it out there. You know. They were making the they
were doing all this weird stuff to athletes schedule just
to make it suitable for the US TV audience, like
that they would have the the heat round to make
(27:21):
it into the finals, like at night, and then then
the final would be in the morning. Just for like
we're getting all confused and they're not getting enough sleep.
It was and people we're hating these before even started,
so I'm sure now they're like, I can't even go
what I mean, the Olympics are in your city. You
don't even a lot. I text to the front of
mine in Tokyo. He was like, yeah, we left town.
I mean, it's just it's nothing. We can't see it,
(27:42):
so why would we stick around? So I was looking
for stories from Latin America, from Latina's in the Olympics.
There's a lot of Latina's winning, Brazil is going up
in the ranks. All good for for people. But I
decided to bring out all story about a guy that
we love of and we want to talk about a
lot in this podcast. That is the couch of Argentina team.
(28:05):
Not anymore, but it used to be Marcelo Bielsa Fielsa.
It's uh, it's more than a He's like a hero,
you know, for many countries, for many clubs. He is
like a hero of He's a philosopher of how to
teach the art of soccer. He's super smart. He's always
like I had this Argentine in uh rhythm to explain
(28:29):
things I don't know from Argentina himself or where is
he from? Yeah, yeah, he's from lenus Uh. There's a
lot of like love for him in that town. If
you go there, it's like the whole town. It's just
like his face is everywhere. He's a hero. How would
you compare him to Ted Lasso? I think he's like
if um ted Yeah. It's like, how to explain this
(28:52):
in a way that makes sense. It's like the character
from Mark Swanson in Parking Rex was mixed with Ted
la so in a way okay, so a little more zen,
a little more edge. He's not just taught me on
the back all the time. He's pushing. He's pushing and
at the same time he I don't know. I recommend
everyone to just YouTube videos of this guy. Every speech
(29:14):
he has ever done. It's amazing. And he famously rejects
give you the handshake to the president of Chile that
we all hate that Pinea. So everyone loved him because
of that um because he was more too by Chile
that you know, she was the president before him, and
you know they have a friendship and he was yeah,
(29:34):
and they were at some point in Chile because he
was coaching the Chilean team. He was kind of like
the father of the country, and she was the mother
of the country. So we have this really like we
look up to him a lot. I hope, I pray
for that everything. I dream with that once in a while.
But this is the story Bill said. Tried to win
(29:57):
the World Cup, he failed. Every One was like, this
guy is kind of done, so then boom the Olympics.
And soccer in the Olympics is never like the most
important thing because it's like there's so many other things,
do you know, you never pay attention that you want
to like watch soccer again, I mean, I'm thinking a
lot of American audiences and it's not special. You know,
(30:19):
you don't get to watch hurdles every day exactly. But
they have a lot of rules, like I think there's
a rule about age that you have to be really
young to be in the Olympics. It's a different set
of rules to do soccer. So it's still it's like
even harder for a team that is very successful in
in in in other in World Cups or like I
(30:41):
don't know, international Cups or whatever or local cops to
win then make it in the in the Olympics, so
Argentina never have its gold medals and he makes it work.
He was the first one, and he was coming from
you know, like the biggest failure of his career and
he figured out a way to make them wan and
uh yeah, it's it's just like a crazy story of
(31:03):
a guy who was almost done, hated by his home
country and then with Crespo all that generation they make
it in Japan. Uh, not in Japan. Now, this is
the one, the real one, dozen four no Athens. Yeah,
(31:26):
that was a good one and he did it. He
won Olympic gold for Argentina. Yes, and it's it's it
is a great story. They still remember that day. And
actually the TV in Argentina was just talking about this,
uh every day, because they don't care about anything more
than themselves. I like that story you told about this guy.
Didn't he get together some team? I don't know. I
(31:48):
think it was him. He told him, Hey, if you
if you're here, if you want to live your life
and enjoy life, that's fine, Yeah, get out of here.
What what was it? No, it's like, uh, if you
if you want to just have a normal life and
you know, love your wife and you know, have some
kids and like, you know, get out of here and
it's fine, It's okay. Is your decision. Um, I'm happy
(32:10):
for you, you know, it's not like I'm like and
but then if you choose this little life, it's gonna
be difficult. It's gonna be really hard. People gonna judge you,
hate you, love you in the same week. But this
is a decision that you have to think that you're making.
It's not someone that imposed. It's like life take you
this direction. You can. You can resign right now and
(32:30):
go home and it'll be fine. I would say that,
of course, you can love your wife whenever I would
be if I were on This is why I'm not
on the national team because if he said, if you
want to have a normal life, love your wife, I'm
already I'm gone. I didn't even hear the rest of
the speech. Yes, I'm ready with my wife. I'm driving
(32:51):
away with my wife myself. Well that right now, if
you'll sailites in the UK, okay, cool Dana team. Yeah,
and people love him over there and I think they
sing about him all the time. Everyone love him now,
So yeah, it's a cool guy to google. And look,
he's speeches, Bilsa, the legend of Bilsa, the amazing Argentine
(33:15):
football coach. Okay, we had the Chilean constitution, the bitcoin
hipster president of El Salvador, the parasitic of the Amazon,
and the man Bilsa. We had politics, pop culture, uh, sports, animals.
That is the kind of show we're going to give
you here on four from the South. I think you're
getting your money's worth, since it's free to listen to
(33:37):
here on the I Heart radio app where we get
your podcasts. Um fab anything to leave the people with,
Just follow us, I don't know. That's what people say
in this guy. Follow us, check out the show notes.
We'll put together some way to find us on Twitter?
Is twitter the best way to find a podcast? I
don't know. I don't know how. Yeah, you can find
You can certainly find Fabricio Copano. He's a famous comedian
(33:59):
on Chile. Can find him on Twitter, Instagram, Steve Healey
at Heally Times. You can find me everywhere. You can
tell us if you hate it or but well don't
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it to yourself, tell your friends. But if you love it,
tell us exactly. Thank you so much for Lisa, Thank
you so much. I really appreciate it. For from the
South is hosted by Me, Steve Healey, and Fabrizio Capano.
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It's boss Steve. Here we go, old Welcome to four
from the South. High fro Brizzio. How are you doing.
(00:22):
I'm great. I'm really happy to be part of this show.
Me too. I'm happy you're part of the show too.
Let's introduce ourselves. This is the pilot episode of our
new show called Four from the South. My name is
Steve Healey. I am a writer mostly for TV shows.
I read for thirty Rock, The Office, Sleep, American Dad.
And you are my friend, Fabrizio Capano. Yes, I'm from Chile.
(00:44):
I'm a comedian. I started there doing comedy shows everywhere,
in farms, in churches, you know, in a mind, famously
to a comedy show in the mine in a mind
with the famous Chilean miners. And then I moved to
the States start all over again, doing comedy for drunk Americans,
white boys, like Woost of ninety nine kind of audiences.
(01:06):
You were one of the first. You really brought stand
up comedia, extend up comedy to children, brought laughter to
that country. No one had laughed, no one had ever
laughed before, and now there's a whole industry around it.
So yes, you started doing comedy in like tango clubs,
and they didn't know. They didn't have had no place,
They had no comedy store, they had no improv they
(01:27):
had no Oh My Ribs or wherever they do comedy
here in Los Angeles. At the beginning, Yeah, there was nothing.
And now well there's a couple of really great comedic
clubs I think even better than once here because they
have like the energy of something new. Hey, they can
pay to advertise, okay, that you don't need to give
them free publicity. Yeah, this is not what our podcast
(01:48):
is about. What our podcasting it's called four from the South.
And our idea here is that we here in the
United States, like it or not, we are part of
Latin America. Maybe at one time we were part of
europe America, kind of British America. It is to just
have been too many Latino people have come to the
United States. Our culture has become very much like that
of Latin America. Cous dictators, mysterious businessmen running same energy,
(02:13):
constitutional chaos, the vibe. We have a Latin America five now,
but so many of us here in the United States
we don't have a lot of knowledge about what's going
on in Mexico, Central America, South America. So what are
we doing on the show. We're gonna have bring you
that energy. We're gonna bring you the four stories every
week so you can figure out your feature. The show
(02:36):
is about you can see coming, Prepare for the future.
That's the idea here, get ready for what's coming down
the pike. And the way we do that is Tim
telling you four the craziest stories of the week from anywhere.
But I think we can include the United States in
our purview. But we're gonna get a lot of stories
from South America, stories from Central America, stories from Mexico,
(02:59):
and just let you fill you in on what's going
on down there. No Canada, that's the only rule. I
think that somewhere around like Portland, Oregon or so, Latin
America does their little pockets up there. But then and
then Canada they're still hanging on. Someday maybe Canada will
be part of Latin America, will bring them down. It's
(03:20):
a matter of time to bring you down. Latin America
is growing. Like maybe this isn't a metaphor people from
Latin America would love, but it's like a mold consuming
a lemon. Or well yeah, maybe, yeah, it's like venom.
You know, it's just like you know, eating the whole
personality of the continent. But I love it. I mean
(03:40):
I feel like home. Uh it's it's great and I
think some something good is going to come out of
this transition. I think there's gonna be a lot of
excitement and dynamism and good in that. So we can
embrace it celebrated, you know what. I sort of represent
the gringo perspective on the show. You're allowed to fear
it and have concerns about what it's like to be
in Latin America, but let's just admit that this is
(04:01):
part of our life and we have to learn about it.
So the first story of the week. We're gonna do
four stories a week, and Fat I think you're going
to lead us in with the first story because it's
from your home country of Chile, exactly. I want to
start this podcast. We did. It's not a new yeah,
it's it's something new in a way, but it's been
going for a minute now. We started like kind of
(04:22):
a revolution movement in October nineteen up to those in
nineteen and Chile went to this whole craziness before the
pandemic of trying to figure out how to change the constitution.
You know, they were riots, they were like people angry
in the streets. The government was like almost uh you know,
the guy goes almost getting impeached. It was a mess.
(04:43):
And then they decided the way to figure out this
is just like rewrite the constitution. The problem with the
all Constitution is that it was grown. It was wrote
by pinot Chet, the dictator. So everyone was like, that's
not for us, and I'll have a lot of rules
that I think are like not helpful for poor people
or middle class people in Chile. So it was time
to rewrite this thing. And I know for Americans that's impossible.
(05:05):
The idea of like rewriting the constitutions like like, I
in my mind, I don't know if I'm write about this.
It's like if someone decided, let's rewrite the Bible. Yes,
it's like rewriting the Ten Commandments. It's like there's one
time when they nailed it and we can't touch it. Yeah,
but what about we find we find new people and
we rewrite the Bible. That's that's for me, what's going
(05:28):
on in Chile. So it's crazy, you know, it's it's
it's a crazy idea. And so we had an election,
we vote for I think it's a hundred and twenty
two conventionals and for different districts. And these are the
people who is right now at this moment in time
writing actually like they're starting writing like the rules of
the convention because they're not even like in the part
(05:50):
of writing the actual constitution. But every day there's new
stories about what's going on over there. But this is
the part of that I really want to put my
attention to. During this whole thing, during the riots, all
back to two thousand nineteen, one woman, I'm lower middle
class woman. Uh in her yeah, she's forty six, she
(06:12):
was forty five at the time for and she she
was with her daughter, and her daughter went online and
she by accident bought Pikachu costume from Ali Express. Okay,
so by accident, your daughter, you know, get a Pikachu costume.
Apartient accident, maybe your daughter just really wanted to Well
(06:35):
that's probably well, the thing is she pretended was an accident.
The Pikachu arrived. Then one day all this riots start
and this woman was angry. You know, you know her
life was not easy, so she decided to wear this
Pikachu costume and go to the streets of Santiago, Chile
and dance, and that created the character of Aunt Pikachu.
(07:00):
This woman is called Jovanna Grendon and she's famously known
as unpeek at You. And she started dancing and there's
a viral videw of she falling on this on the floor.
Because dancing with that costume is not a great idea,
so she's not dancing with it. She phoned floor everyone
can look for dance Peakachu Chile and you can see
her falling, and that video went viral. She became a character,
(07:22):
national character. She was like part of, like the whole movement.
And then she run as one of the person writing
the constitution. And right now she's frighting the Constitution. Can't
you imagine going from your daughter buying an alex Press
Peekachi costume to then be part of the history of
(07:42):
your country in probably the most important position ever, that
is frighting the new Constitution. Incredible just by comparison at
the US Constitutional Convention when they had that in seventeen
nine or so, there there weren't even any women, let
alone any women addressed us famous cartoon characters at the time,
(08:02):
because there weren't the cartoon characters at the time. That's
how far back it was. And then we are trying
to live under a constitution in our cartoon filled era
where women are buying stuff on the internet. So today,
two days ago, in one of the when the breaks
of the constitution, she decided to wear the outfit. So
you've seen this prestigious building, like old building, where they're
(08:26):
writing this new form of living for a country. This
Pikachu woman. And then she was coming with two dinosaurs,
so she was Pikachu and two dinosaurs just walking to
write the new rules. So I love this. I think
there's so many movies in this story. You know, at
least there's five different movies. I don't know if Nintendo
(08:48):
is going to be down to this. I don't know
we're gonna be the rights of Pikachu. But guys, this
is better than the tactic Pikachu. It does seem like
there's an opportunity here for a Nintendo. Like if they're
like somebody in the country is dressing like one of
your characters to write the constitution, maybe you get in
on that send her a couple of extra costumes. Just
keep an eye on this situation. I love this story.
(09:11):
I mean, I I think it's um once again. She's
now kind of like this this kind of Chilean Avengers characters.
So there's like a guy called Partyman. We talked about
this once before, Steve, this guy who is with this
top sign as a it's like this Captain America shield ah,
(09:33):
and she and another guy who's there's a dinosaur, another
guy who's like the dancing spider Man. They all like,
you know, the heroes of this new country that is
growing in front of us. All of the Marvel universe
is represented at the Chilean Constitution, which is I think
should be. Has any have there been any like copycats
(09:55):
who tried to like get in a costume and ride
out to political stuff. Yeah, actually there's a lot of failure,
like failed characters in front of mine. Always send me
this Instagram links to characters who are not that famous,
you know. I remember there was like one called Malcolm Man.
Uh yeah, he was more famous, but like there was
(10:15):
another ones who are like that. They really didn't make
the cut. But I love the idea that there's actually
people right there outside who decided to wear a custom
and you know they want to change the world for real.
That's the that's the dream. That's great. Yeah, I know
how many of the people in the Chilean Constitutional Convention
are like career politicians or lawyers versus people just crazy
costume worrying. Not that many. I mean there's not a
(10:36):
lot of crazy costumes. It's just like two or three.
But actually, like the cool thing is like during the
whole process, they decided to open for independence people outside
political parties, and they have like the same ability of
like create lists and be part of the system we have.
Like I don't I don't know how to explain this system,
but we have a system of like you make a
list and in your list you have five people and
(10:58):
if they want on top get this amount of votes.
You also like bring two of your own list. So
and that for that you need a political party. But
in this case they allowed everyone. I mean, if you
find five people who want to be in a list
with you, boom, you have a list and you can
be part of it. So I don't know, from the
I think more than I mean around the forties something
(11:22):
percent is independent people outside political party that is just
enough to make it very exciting and crazy. I think
there's a lot of people who are really scared. I
mean a lot of people are really scared. And if
you go to Chili Chile and Twitter, uh, and if
you have access to Chilean Twitter, you will see a
lot of people be like, you're never working because you
(11:43):
can live Actually their live streaming every session, so there's
a lot of people watching the live stream like, these
guys are not working with payment to write a constitution.
They're not working. And if you're on Twitter, you're not
working either, right, I think, how hard are you supposed
to be working? It takes a little while, you know,
you got to get to know each other. Okay, we're
(12:04):
gonna We'll be following the story of the Chilean Constitutional
Convention as it goes on, because how often do you
does a country write a whole new constitution. It's kind
of rare, and it seems like they're doing it with
the best of intentions at least, whether it will succeed
or not. I am very positive allowed this. I know
that some people are not. I don't care about them.
I'm very happy with this. Next story, South America we
(12:39):
had a big one. There's a country out there. This
is a country in Central America and they have made
bitcoin legal tender. This is the country of El Salvador.
Lovely country, lovely country, about six million people. Not very big.
I've been to El Salvador and never been and never been.
Not a ton went on all. Most of the houses
(13:01):
look like they were made out of sticks in the
last like six months. But what about the comedy scene
in very minimal. They most people in Al Salvador who
are overage like twenty are survivors of the brutal civil war.
They have a high murder rate. They're famous for. Of course,
they're Gang Marisalva Tricca and its thirteen, which a lot
(13:23):
of people in the gang were like refugees from the war. Horrible, horrible,
horrible dark gang. Great name, amazing name, amazing, It's is good. Yeah.
I think they have this logo. I think that, you know,
I don't know. It's like there's something about when you
have a gang and even like I don't know, political
(13:43):
party that is dark or and and or ever any
institution of a group of people, they always have great
taste for the signs. I don't know what it is.
That's a good point. Yeah, they do better than most
like companies and everything that is positive. It's not it's
not you know how great shirts. You know, you don't
want to wear their logo, you know. Yeah, like that
(14:04):
non profit it's not going to have a good boring.
It was just like the world and kids playing boring.
There's a little it's like a little globe and it's
like yellow and green and it just doesn't and then
there's a hand coming out of it. No, gang is
going to have like a spider with a huge crazy
to give me that more that? Okay, so El Salvador
(14:26):
as a president. His name is Boo Kelly, now you Bookelly.
Very mysterious and strange guy. He looks kind of like
like hipster Dracula. You can look him up his Wikipedia page.
You'll get the vibe immediately. He's got a weird, like
too precisely trimmed beard. This is it's kind of good looking.
I have to say. It's kind of like a good
(14:47):
looking dude. I don't know. I'm not sharing. No, he's
not good looking. He's just like, um, what's the name
of this These people who like take care of their
beers and like they're Yes, he's a metrosexual, like very manicured. Yeah,
he takes care of the beard. He go to the
barbershop and he stayed there for a couple of hours.
(15:08):
He's you know, he's gonna smell of some kind of
essence he put on exactly. And he's a kind of
a strange guy because he's in this country called El Salvador,
possibly the only country named after Jesus Christ, and his
dad is a convert to Islam. I'm not sure where
Boukele falls in religion, but yeah, his his parents are
(15:32):
some kind of emigrations from Palestine and then they at
some point converted to Islam. So and he himself has
been seen praying in a mosque. It's just he's got
a murky but very religious five. I think. Well, something
interesting about this guy is that he's sometimes in if
you google him and a lot of pictures, he's weighing
this hat with white hat backwards. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah,
(15:54):
he looks like a guy from the club, you know,
and you haven't. I think this is the first time
ever I've seen a president doing of any country in
the world. Yeah, not very presidential, but it's working. For him.
It's working really well because make him look like he's
just like in the same spit and and I think
this is related to the bitcoin stuff. It's like in
the same universe of Elon musk Ye, you know, like
(16:18):
what's the name of the other guy? Uh, I don't know. Yeah,
he's in the generation of these Zuckerberg you know, entrepreneurial
neo futurists kind of jacks. Yeah, sus highly sus characters. Anyway,
(16:38):
he's declared uh bitcoin to be legal tender in El Salvador. Yeah, yeah,
And nobody really knows what that means because currently the
currency in El Salvador is the US dollars um, which
they don't really have enough of. Like of the money
in El Salvador comes from people in the US. But
the wait, they had their own money that no one use,
(17:00):
that's the thing, and so everyone used just dollars because
it's like more it's reliable. Now, Okay, I got it,
I got it. I thought that they had changed and
they didn't even bother having their own currency. And what
happened with you you have a country that you have
problems with money, It's like everyone's like just moved to
dollars because it's just like some money that's going to
work something tomorrow. Okay, a steady dollar. Well now they've
(17:20):
got the steadiest dollar, a ball, the bitcoin, the bitcoin,
So okay, what are we doing here? What's going on?
Most people and also are don't even have a cell phone.
Uh there, it's a largely agricultural kind of place. What
are we doing? What's the move here? Uh? Well, there's
two things one in one side. This is kind of
(17:41):
like a cool thing to do that. You know, we're
talking about this country again for something very different. You know,
like most of the time with this news a ball
it's however, they're not good news, you know, and I'm
not sure this is good news, but it's it's it's different,
you know, it's like it's interesting. It's interesting thing. Ah
but now all solved or back in the in the conversation.
(18:04):
You're right, you're right. But now it's this like something
that people gonna make more money through it. I don't
think so. Um yeah maybe maybe you and me. I
think we're like, you know, decent people, but there's some
indecent people out there. Then I'm sure like I can
make some shady business in bait cooins and no one
(18:27):
will full the track and over there, it's gonna be
even harder to like know what I'm doing because bitcoin
is just like the money there. Okay, okay, yeah, maybe
it's a business that you can bring to Solvador. That's right.
Maybe he's saying we're open for business in the shady
economy that transaction bitcoin. You can send your bitcoin here,
(18:49):
turn it into some real estate, turn it back into bitcoin,
and no one contract. But isn't bitcoin the whole? Isn't
the whole idea that you know, bitcoin itself is already
kind of untraceable or or maybe it's super traceable in
one sense, but like you could hide your illegal gains
and bitcoin or move your money out of the whole
cause it's like there's not a central bank just checking
(19:10):
what's going on with your money. I I think that's
the deal. I mean, to be honest, I hate bitcom,
but not because of the way it works, because the
people who love bitcoin. That makes me hate bitcoin. It's
not about the bitcoin itself. It's just like the world
around bitcoin um in Latin America and this is happening
a lot probably in the US. Two But I never
I've never seen this here, but just like this, young
(19:33):
wanna be rich people who make this really like pyramid
schemes using bitcoin as an excuse. So they create like this. Uh,
I'm just gonna throw names like Ferrex Trading business school
for Bitcoin. So they dressing suits, they make these flyers
(19:55):
and they sell. Oh, I'm gonna make your workshop on bitcom.
You have to bring if people, it's free, just have
to bring fight. It's like that's the pyramid scheme. So
maybe yeah, it's bitcoins is just like a world of
douche bags and he's creating like a douche back country.
Or maybe it's just maybe it's a trap lord some
(20:16):
of those guys get him to Elsbo or grab him
take their bitcoin. You're good, I mean, could be positive.
I would like that they the nanny that the care
of my son Elsa is from el Salvo and Elsa
from Elsalvo. She asked me like the other day, what
is this bitcoin thing? What it means for for my life?
(20:38):
And I told her like yeah, now I'm just gonna
pay her and pay her bitcoins and I just make
a sound with my voice and I showed my phone
to her five times, like yeah, I just send you
a thousand bitcoins and she's like, thank you so much. Yeah,
I think she'll prefer paper money for a while. We're
not quite there yet with the bitcoin. Let's not pretending,
(20:59):
but I like the boll. We're not talking about Guatemala.
We're not talking my Posttrica. We're talking about El Salvador.
He he got it on the front page of the
Wall Street Journal, and just that has got to be
a victory for I think. Yeah, and guys, I recommend
to everyone to just google this guy. He's wearing like
different weird outfits. I don't know, it's an interesting guy
to look at. We'll put it in the show notes.
(21:20):
As they always say in the podcast, exactly do if
you ever looked at the show notes of a podcast,
I never presently what is related to, but they're always
promising to put everything in the show notes. We'll just
check out the show notes. You'll find it. As some
people are having finished the podcast, that you're gonna go
and read a magunch particles. But I want more. I
want more of these three our podcast. Okay, speaking of
(21:43):
parasitic schemes, Yeah, we do have to talk about and
this is a discovery in the Amazon. If you look
at this will be our third story today. If you
look at Central and South America in Mexico, if you
look at what south of the United States, the big
riby stake of it all is that big meaty part
of Brazil and it extends an Ecuador and Peru. The Amazon.
(22:05):
That's the big chunk of South America. Right. I don't
even know what percented is, but a huge amount. And
it's like the lungs of the planet, I think, so,
I think, I hope so. I mean it used to be,
but I think that they're cutting it down more and more.
But we had to have a crazy animal story on
our show because there are so many wonderful and crazy
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animals in South America, and we will be covering the
natural world of South America as well. So they've discovered
a new wasp in the Amazon. The wasp was discovered
by these guys from the University of Turku, which is
I think is in Finland. So I don't know why
these guys were poking around in the Amazon, but they've
discovered a new wasp that's called dole komitis. Maybe, and
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this is a nasty, weird but kind of wonderful creature.
And it's it's black in color, but it's like glitter.
If you have it in the light, it glitters. This
is from the The Science Daily description. It glitters electric blue.
So it looks really like crazy and weird. And apparently
this protects the wasp because like animals that see it
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and something that looks this crazy, they're like, that's too poisonous.
I can't eat that. That's not for me. So they
leave the wasp alone. And the wasp has a super
long it's called ovipositor. This it's like a tube something
between a tongue and a penis and whatever that sticks
out of the wasp and and that's how the wasp reproduces.
And so what this wasp will do is it'll go
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to a tree in the middle of the dense amazon.
It'll stick it's a little ovipositor in there, and it'll
find um some larvae of like another insect or a
spider like somebody else has already laid their eggs there.
And this wasp goes cool and it lays its egg
right on top of it, and the children of the wasp,
the little larvae of the wash, the babies. As soon
(23:56):
as they start getting going that they need some nourishment,
they just eat the other the larvae of the other insects.
They're there before they're even born. They're eating babies. Okay.
And what's more, this wasp can it can They'll lay
they can lay on a certain kind of spider and
it will attack the spider in its web and paralyze it.
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And then it kind of like takes over the spider
and it makes the spider spin a web that's actually
just a really good nest for this wasp and then
it eats the spider and that's it. That's so cool. Yeah,
it's pretty amazing. But also, I mean nature is quite
scary things because nature is just cruel. They don't care
about any moral rules or any all these things that
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we care. They're like, no, that doesn't happen here, guys.
I love this, Like these neat documentaries, like old ones
when they tried to put voices in animals and it's like, yeah,
I'm hungry, mama. And actually in real life they would like,
just like I don't know, murdering each other and like
killing babies, and yeah, that's life. This is baby is
killing babies. This is how it goes down down there
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at the heart of that. You know what what I
was thinking when you explain me all of this. I
can imagine someone from Bolsonnaro's Brazilian government trying to explain
this to Bollsonaro with that excitement. You mean, like he's like, oh,
just burned, burned that down, just like I don't. I
don't care at all about any mysterial of life, just
like oil out of them. Yeah, yeah, that's it's a
(25:27):
good argument for burning down the Amazon abord Do you
think abortions bath? This is wasp is eating the inside
the little tiny babies, eating them. The Amazon is gross
and scary. Making rubber to make condoms out of this,
you know, so that's way better than this animal making
(25:47):
wood and hamburgers and this horrible wasp on. Do you
want to protect this wasp that's disgusting. Yeah. I also think,
by the way, this was the story of this waspon
there's always like with the villain in a movie he
tells the story of like there's a as I'm not
a bad guy. This is this is just like, well, um,
(26:18):
I I have a final story, okay, please it better
be a good uplifting story or well I thought about
this because we're talking about the Olympics. Of course, the
Olympics are going on right now. Have you watched any
of it? I've watched tons. But really I feel like
in my life, the Olympics were always around me and
I never had to find them. They were like a
(26:40):
TV on with the Olympics, you know, And I think
this is the first year of my life that I
have to like actually go for the Olympics and find
them around me. I mean I don't have cable, I
just have like internet and stuff. So like the I
think the Olympics are not like that easy to digest
as before. Just in my specific case, the time difference
(27:01):
has been killer for one thing. And then the NBC
peacock whatever they're trying to get you to watch it
on all these different absence it's not working. Just put
it out there. You know. They were making the they
were doing all this weird stuff to athletes schedule just
to make it suitable for the US TV audience, like
that they would have the the heat round to make
(27:21):
it into the finals, like at night, and then then
the final would be in the morning. Just for like
we're getting all confused and they're not getting enough sleep.
It was and people we're hating these before even started,
so I'm sure now they're like, I can't even go
what I mean, the Olympics are in your city. You
don't even a lot. I text to the front of
mine in Tokyo. He was like, yeah, we left town.
I mean, it's just it's nothing. We can't see it,
(27:42):
so why would we stick around? So I was looking
for stories from Latin America, from Latina's in the Olympics.
There's a lot of Latina's winning, Brazil is going up
in the ranks. All good for for people. But I
decided to bring out all story about a guy that
we love of and we want to talk about a
lot in this podcast. That is the couch of Argentina team.
(28:05):
Not anymore, but it used to be Marcelo Bielsa Fielsa.
It's uh, it's more than a He's like a hero,
you know, for many countries, for many clubs. He is
like a hero of He's a philosopher of how to
teach the art of soccer. He's super smart. He's always
like I had this Argentine in uh rhythm to explain
(28:29):
things I don't know from Argentina himself or where is
he from? Yeah, yeah, he's from lenus Uh. There's a
lot of like love for him in that town. If
you go there, it's like the whole town. It's just
like his face is everywhere. He's a hero. How would
you compare him to Ted Lasso? I think he's like
if um ted Yeah. It's like, how to explain this
(28:52):
in a way that makes sense. It's like the character
from Mark Swanson in Parking Rex was mixed with Ted
la so in a way okay, so a little more zen,
a little more edge. He's not just taught me on
the back all the time. He's pushing. He's pushing and
at the same time he I don't know. I recommend
everyone to just YouTube videos of this guy. Every speech
(29:14):
he has ever done. It's amazing. And he famously rejects
give you the handshake to the president of Chile that
we all hate that Pinea. So everyone loved him because
of that um because he was more too by Chile
that you know, she was the president before him, and
you know they have a friendship and he was yeah,
(29:34):
and they were at some point in Chile because he
was coaching the Chilean team. He was kind of like
the father of the country, and she was the mother
of the country. So we have this really like we
look up to him a lot. I hope, I pray
for that everything. I dream with that once in a while.
But this is the story Bill said. Tried to win
(29:57):
the World Cup, he failed. Every One was like, this
guy is kind of done, so then boom the Olympics.
And soccer in the Olympics is never like the most
important thing because it's like there's so many other things,
do you know, you never pay attention that you want
to like watch soccer again, I mean, I'm thinking a
lot of American audiences and it's not special. You know,
(30:19):
you don't get to watch hurdles every day exactly. But
they have a lot of rules, like I think there's
a rule about age that you have to be really
young to be in the Olympics. It's a different set
of rules to do soccer. So it's still it's like
even harder for a team that is very successful in
in in in other in World Cups or like I
(30:41):
don't know, international Cups or whatever or local cops to
win then make it in the in the Olympics, so
Argentina never have its gold medals and he makes it work.
He was the first one, and he was coming from
you know, like the biggest failure of his career and
he figured out a way to make them wan and
uh yeah, it's it's just like a crazy story of
(31:03):
a guy who was almost done, hated by his home
country and then with Crespo all that generation they make
it in Japan. Uh, not in Japan. Now, this is
the one, the real one, dozen four no Athens. Yeah,
(31:26):
that was a good one and he did it. He
won Olympic gold for Argentina. Yes, and it's it's it
is a great story. They still remember that day. And
actually the TV in Argentina was just talking about this,
uh every day, because they don't care about anything more
than themselves. I like that story you told about this guy.
Didn't he get together some team? I don't know. I
(31:48):
think it was him. He told him, Hey, if you
if you're here, if you want to live your life
and enjoy life, that's fine, Yeah, get out of here.
What what was it? No, it's like, uh, if you
if you want to just have a normal life and
you know, love your wife and you know, have some
kids and like, you know, get out of here and
it's fine, It's okay. Is your decision. Um, I'm happy
(32:10):
for you, you know, it's not like I'm like and
but then if you choose this little life, it's gonna
be difficult. It's gonna be really hard. People gonna judge you,
hate you, love you in the same week. But this
is a decision that you have to think that you're making.
It's not someone that imposed. It's like life take you
this direction. You can. You can resign right now and
(32:30):
go home and it'll be fine. I would say that,
of course, you can love your wife whenever I would
be if I were on This is why I'm not
on the national team because if he said, if you
want to have a normal life, love your wife, I'm
already I'm gone. I didn't even hear the rest of
the speech. Yes, I'm ready with my wife. I'm driving
(32:51):
away with my wife myself. Well that right now, if
you'll sailites in the UK, okay, cool Dana team. Yeah,
and people love him over there and I think they
sing about him all the time. Everyone love him now,
So yeah, it's a cool guy to google. And look,
he's speeches, Bilsa, the legend of Bilsa, the amazing Argentine
(33:15):
football coach. Okay, we had the Chilean constitution, the bitcoin
hipster president of El Salvador, the parasitic of the Amazon,
and the man Bilsa. We had politics, pop culture, uh, sports, animals.
That is the kind of show we're going to give
you here on four from the South. I think you're
getting your money's worth, since it's free to listen to
(33:37):
here on the I Heart radio app where we get
your podcasts. Um fab anything to leave the people with,
Just follow us, I don't know. That's what people say
in this guy. Follow us, check out the show notes.
We'll put together some way to find us on Twitter?
Is twitter the best way to find a podcast? I
don't know. I don't know how. Yeah, you can find
You can certainly find Fabricio Copano. He's a famous comedian
(33:59):
on Chile. Can find him on Twitter, Instagram, Steve Healey
at Heally Times. You can find me everywhere. You can
tell us if you hate it or but well don't
tell that would be yeah. If you hate it, keep
it to yourself, tell your friends. But if you love it,
tell us exactly. Thank you so much for Lisa, Thank
you so much. I really appreciate it. For from the
South is hosted by Me, Steve Healey, and Fabrizio Capano.
(34:22):
Robert O'Shaughnessy is our producer. Original theme song by Amy Stolzenbach.
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