National Lampoon's Vacation

In this episode, Anna and Derek chat about Clark's suspect husband behavior, not having the physical fortitude anymore when it comes to rollercoasters, and much more during their discussion of the Griswolds' first outing in National Lampoon's Vacation (1983).

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Anna Keizer and Derek Dehanke are the co-hosts of ‘80s Movie Montage. The idea for the podcast came when they realized just how much they talk – a lot – when watching films from their favorite cinematic era. Their wedding theme was “a light nod to the ‘80s,” so there’s that, too. Both hail from the Midwest but have called Los Angeles home for several years now. Anna is a writer who received her B.A. in Film/Video from Columbia College Chicago and M.A. in Film Studies from Chapman University. Her dark comedy short She Had It Coming was an Official Selection of 25 film festivals with several awards won for it among them. Derek is an attorney who also likes movies. It is a point of pride that most of their podcast episodes are longer than the movies they cover.

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Episode Transcript

SPEAKER_03 (00:00):
I'm going to have fun, and you're going to have

(00:10):
fun.
We're all going to have so muchfucking fun, we'll need plastic
surgery to remove our goddamnsmiles.
You'll be whistlingzippity-doo-dah out of your
assholes.
I gotta be crazy.
I'm on a pilgrimage to see amoose.
Praise Marty Moose! Holy shit!Dad, do you want to ask for
something?

(00:30):
Don't touch!

SPEAKER_01 (00:33):
Hello and welcome to 80s Movie Montage.
This is Derek.

SPEAKER_00 (00:36):
And this is Anna.

SPEAKER_01 (00:37):
And that was Chevy Chase as Clark and Anthony
Michael Hall as Rusty Griswoldin 1983's National Lampoon's
Vacation.

SPEAKER_00 (00:48):
That's right.

SPEAKER_01 (00:49):
It's a lot.

SPEAKER_00 (00:49):
Don't touch! That might be my favorite line in the
entire movie.
Don't touch! Which makes mecurious how much was maybe
improv'd to some degree.
They had him

SPEAKER_01 (01:02):
do that a few different ways to have more of a
less profanity-laden version forTV purposes, but Ramos was like,
yeah, that was...
It was tough to get that...
without it just being full ofprofanities.

SPEAKER_00 (01:20):
The whole movie or that particular scene?

SPEAKER_01 (01:22):
That scene in particular.

SPEAKER_00 (01:23):
Got it.
Okay.
Somebody went through his funfacts.

SPEAKER_01 (01:27):
Yeah, that was a fun fact.
This movie has a lot of funfacts.

SPEAKER_00 (01:31):
Yeah, it does.
National Lampoon's Vacation,1983, like you said.
This is one, although it hadbeen a minute since I've watched
it, I've seen this movie like amillion times.
Yeah.

SPEAKER_01 (01:46):
So many times.

SPEAKER_00 (01:47):
So many times.
So this probably was the firsttime in a very long time that
I've just like sat down to watchit with intention, so to speak.

SPEAKER_01 (01:57):
Yeah.

SPEAKER_00 (01:57):
And you do catch things.
You do still catch things.
So we'll go through all of that.
Let's dive in.
So many familiar names.

SPEAKER_01 (02:06):
Yes.

SPEAKER_00 (02:07):
What?
And I don't mean to.
keep talking about this now withevery podcast.
I feel like the last coupleepisodes I've mentioned people
who have passed.
I think, though, I think thismight be the first time where
literally everybody behind thecamera has passed.
Oh, really?

(02:27):
Yeah.
Oh.
Yeah.
And some greats, starting withJohn Hughes.
So this is John Hughes before...
He made his name as the writerslash director slash producer on
all those teen flicks that he isso famous for.

(02:47):
So this is just preceding himgetting into that phase of his
career.
And we have brought him up.
Many times.

SPEAKER_04 (02:57):
Absolutely.

SPEAKER_00 (02:58):
The last time we brought him up, I think, almost
positive, was Planes, Trains,and Automobiles from last fall.
So go check that one out.
I mean, I'm going to list off aton of titles where I'm like,
check this out.
Because we've done a lot ofepisodes with him.
So 53 writing credits.
He was, and I think I've saidthis before, as probably a lot
of people in the industry are, amuch more prolific writer than

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he was like director orproducer.
Like he, to my recollection...
he had scripts upon scripts whenhe passed that they whether or
not they like became aware ofthem once he passed or not he
just had a ton of ideas a ton ofum specifically with john candy
he had a lot more scripts thathe had like wanted to do with

(03:42):
candy but he passed away in 2009which is insane to think he's
already been gone for 15 yearsum all i think literally every
credit writing credit that ihave for him Various stages of
maybe like financial success,but I think they're literally
movies that like every singleperson has heard of.
That's like how amazing this guywas.

(04:04):
Yeah.
The other film, which we havecovered, and I love this movie,
that came along before he brokeout into kind of the teen genre
was Mr.
Mom.

SPEAKER_01 (04:17):
That's the one that always surprises me.
I always forget that that's him.

SPEAKER_00 (04:21):
Yeah.
Love that movie so much.
Yeah.
Have a listen at that episode.
I think that was just lastseason.
And here we go.
So a couple we have not coveredyet, like 16 Candles.

SPEAKER_01 (04:33):
Which is crazy.
You

SPEAKER_00 (04:36):
know what, though?
Once upon a time, you said thatwould be the perfect movie if
and when the day comes where weclose out this podcast.
You thought that that would be agood one to close on, and I
agree with you.
So we're probably going to holdoff on that one for a minute.

SPEAKER_01 (04:49):
Fair enough.

SPEAKER_00 (04:49):
Yeah.
But...
We have covered The BreakfastClub.
That was our very first episode.
I

SPEAKER_01 (04:56):
don't...
Did we record that just on aphone sitting in another room?
I know that we did it.

SPEAKER_00 (05:05):
We did it.
It was

SPEAKER_01 (05:06):
very experimental.

SPEAKER_00 (05:07):
And I do feel like that will be a perfect bookend.
So we start with Breakfast Cluband with 16 Candles.
Yeah.
Of course, he is the writerbehind...
Well...
European Vacation and ChristmasVacation.
And then like The Torch was kindof carried too.
Like he probably had producingcredits on the other vacation

(05:28):
movies.
Oh, he

SPEAKER_01 (05:28):
didn't write Vegas Vacation?
Okay.

SPEAKER_00 (05:31):
So those.
We also, as of yet, haven't doneWeird Science or Pretty in Pink.

SPEAKER_01 (05:38):
Yeah.

SPEAKER_00 (05:38):
Maybe we'll get to one of those at some point.
I've never watched

SPEAKER_01 (05:41):
Pretty in Pink.
What?
Never seen it.
Never seen it from start tofinish.
I've seen

SPEAKER_00 (05:44):
like...
You're lying.

SPEAKER_01 (05:45):
I'm not.

SPEAKER_00 (05:46):
You're married to me.
You're lying.

SPEAKER_01 (05:48):
Yes, yes, and no.

SPEAKER_00 (05:50):
You haven't watched it with me?

SPEAKER_01 (05:52):
No.

SPEAKER_00 (05:53):
You haven't watched any of it?

SPEAKER_01 (05:54):
No, no, I've seen parts of it, but I've never
deliberately watched from startto finish that

SPEAKER_00 (06:02):
movie.
You probably know the story,though.
I

SPEAKER_01 (06:04):
know of it.

SPEAKER_00 (06:05):
You know of it?
Yes.
In the infamous dress, which isactually quite hideous, but...
Yeah.
Yeah, it's...
Not great.
There were so many other optionsshe had with that dress.
But in any case.
It may not be

SPEAKER_01 (06:15):
pretty, but it's pink.

SPEAKER_00 (06:16):
But it's pink.
We did do Ferris Bueller's DayOff.
We did that one with Julia.
Go check that one out.
And some kind of wonderful.
Go check that one out as well.
Where

SPEAKER_01 (06:26):
we all talk about our wonderful high school
experiences.

SPEAKER_00 (06:28):
Yeah, we do.
I mean, that's what it bringsup.
So we...
Yeah, we go through somecatharsis in some of those
movies.
And like I mentioned just lastfall, finally for Thanksgiving,
we did Planes, Trains, andAutomobiles.
Yep.
And then he kind of veers awayfrom– well, he does– she's

(06:51):
having a baby, The GreatOutdoors, Uncle Buck, like I
mentioned, Christmas Vacation.
And then I guess kind of once weget into the 90s, he– Goes more
so into like kiddie fare orjust...

SPEAKER_01 (07:04):
More family comedy featuring like kids as the
leads.

SPEAKER_00 (07:09):
Yeah, that's a great way of putting it.
So he is the writer behind HomeAlone.
And Home Alone 2, Lost in NewYork, Dutch.
I like that movie.

SPEAKER_01 (07:20):
With Ed O'Neill, right?

SPEAKER_00 (07:21):
Correct.

SPEAKER_01 (07:21):
Yeah.

SPEAKER_00 (07:22):
Curly Sue.
He did have a pseudonym.
that he wrote under sometimes.
So he did Beethoven as EdmundDantes.
Did that.

SPEAKER_01 (07:33):
What an interesting pseudonym.

SPEAKER_00 (07:36):
Wasn't Edmund Dantes from like the Count of Monte
Cristo?

SPEAKER_01 (07:39):
Possibly.

SPEAKER_00 (07:40):
I think.
Dennis the Menace, Baby's DayOut.
So all kid fare.
101 Dalmatians, Flubber.
And then one of his last creditswas also, so now we're aging up
a little bit, Made in Manhattan.

SPEAKER_04 (07:54):
Oh, okay.

UNKNOWN (07:54):
Yeah.

SPEAKER_00 (07:54):
Okay, another super familiar name who we brought up
not too long ago, Harold Ramis.
He is the director of this film.
This is definitely earlier inhis career as a director.
He, too, has passed.
He passed now a little bit over10 years ago in 2014.
And as far as like directing,specifically directing credits

(08:18):
go, like he does have like somereally great credits under his
name, but not as prolific of adirector as he was.
Like he also a huge writer,contributed to so many scripts,
so many comedic scripts.

UNKNOWN (08:31):
Yeah.

SPEAKER_00 (08:32):
Wasn't in front of the camera as much in his later
career, but I think a lot ofpeople, obviously he is forever
Egon.
So a lot of people know him forhis acting.
But among his specific directingcredits, we have Caddyshack.

SPEAKER_01 (08:47):
Oh, yeah.
I always forget about that.

SPEAKER_00 (08:48):
Yeah.
And that preceded this film.
It feels

SPEAKER_01 (08:52):
like it.
Yeah.
Yeah.

SPEAKER_00 (08:54):
And, you know, we'll get to that one at some point.
We'll for sure do that.
Groundhog Day.
Multiplicity.
He did Analyze This and AnalyzeThat.
I brought this up not too longago, Bedazzled.
Oh, yeah.
I actually do like that movie.

SPEAKER_01 (09:10):
Brendan Fraser and Elizabeth Hurley?

SPEAKER_00 (09:13):
Correct.

SPEAKER_01 (09:14):
Okay.

SPEAKER_00 (09:14):
Nice pull.
Year one, and then among hisfinal credits, I think he
directed four episodes of TheOffice.
Yep.
So there you go.
Okay.

SPEAKER_01 (09:26):
Do you want to know what those are?
The

SPEAKER_00 (09:28):
episodes?
Sure.

SPEAKER_01 (09:29):
A Benihana Christmas?

SPEAKER_00 (09:31):
Oh, okay.
Okay.

SPEAKER_01 (09:31):
safety training, beach games, which was a
really...

SPEAKER_00 (09:35):
Oh, that's a great episode.
That's a

SPEAKER_01 (09:36):
great episode, yeah.
And then one in season six, thedelivery part

SPEAKER_00 (09:40):
two.
So I'm going to be real honestwith TV shows.
Rarely would I ever know a showepisode by name, but that is one
of the...
And I didn't even follow TheOffice when it was out.
It was only because of you thatI started getting into the
American office.

SPEAKER_02 (09:58):
Yeah.

SPEAKER_00 (09:59):
And yeah.
great great episodes i thinkbetween that and like maybe
friends like the titles fromfriends i would know episodes
immediately yeah

SPEAKER_01 (10:08):
because the friends episodes are all like the one
about this yeah the one aboutthat

SPEAKER_00 (10:11):
yeah

SPEAKER_01 (10:12):
correct

SPEAKER_00 (10:13):
okay this gentleman victor j kemper he passed away
in 2023 we literally justbrought him up because our
previous episode was cloak anddagger oh really he shot Wow.
Oh.

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I will always love saying thetitle of this movie.
Who is Harry Kellerman?
And why is he saying thoseterrible things about me?

SPEAKER_01 (10:57):
What year is that movie from?
Do we know?
If we don't know, it's okay.
It's got to be the 70s.
Yeah, we need to watch it justto see

SPEAKER_00 (11:02):
what it's all about.
Just for personal satisfaction.
Exactly.
The Candidate, Dog DayAfternoon, The Last Tycoon,
Slapshot.
Wish that was an 80s film.
Oh God, The Jerk, Xanadu, whichI'd like to do at some point.
He did shoot Mr.
Mom.
Okay.
As mentioned, Cloak and Dagger.
Pee-Wee's Big Adventure.
We also covered him for Clue.

(11:23):
Go check that one out with Andy.
Beethoven, Tommy Boy, and JingleAll the Way.
Okay.
Moving on to music.
Interesting guy here, RalphBurns.
He passed in 2001.
And from his filmography...
It's clear that like reallywe've gotten this a couple of

(11:44):
times where somebody maybe moreso has.
Does more like Broadway, morelike live type.

SPEAKER_01 (11:54):
Oh, OK.

SPEAKER_00 (11:55):
Yeah, I think I think that really was where he
came from.
And if you look at his credits,I mean, he Oscar winning.
But here's what's so interestingabout his credits.
I don't know how this works.
He won.
Two Oscars.
However, for both those credits,he is uncredited.

(12:15):
So I don't really...

SPEAKER_01 (12:18):
You've done a hell of a job when you win an Oscar
for an uncredited credited...

SPEAKER_00 (12:22):
Yeah, I don't know if it's like he was later...
Maybe in the moment he...
I don't know.
I don't know.
But the two Oscar wins bestoriginal song score are for
Cabaret and All That Jazz.

SPEAKER_01 (12:36):
Okay.
I've heard of those.

SPEAKER_00 (12:37):
Yeah.
And then he also got an Oscarnom.
So we did cover this movie.
He was not the composer onAnnie.
He was the conductor slash musicarranger.
Oh,

SPEAKER_04 (12:48):
okay.

UNKNOWN (12:49):
Yeah.

SPEAKER_00 (12:49):
I don't, like, look, I'll be really honest.
I don't know the details of,like, who qualifies for certain
Oscar categories.
Like, sometimes it is a teamthat is, like, nominated.
Sometimes it's a single person.
So, but he was part of, I guess,the team that was nominated for
Annie.

SPEAKER_02 (13:04):
Okay.

SPEAKER_00 (13:05):
Some of his other credits include Lenny.
So, like, the film with, Ibelieve, Dustin Hoffman as Lenny
Bruce.
Urban Cowboy.
My Favorite Year.
Star 80.
That is a dark movie.
Okay.
And then he pivots to TheMuppets Take Manhattan.
He does perfect.
I will also never get tired ofsaying the title of this film.

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Burt Rigby, you're a fool.
Fool.
Love that.
And then his final credit wasAll Dogs Go to Heaven.

SPEAKER_01 (13:34):
Okay.
Nice.

SPEAKER_00 (13:36):
All right.
Moving on to film editing.
Love this name.
Pembroke J.
Herring.
What a name.
He passed in 2020.
Okay.
Multi-Oscar nominated.
Never won.
I think actually this was hisfirst film that he has a credit
for.
He got an editing Oscarnomination for Tora Tora Tora.

(14:01):
He followed that up.
I think it was maybe back toback even.
Oscar nomination for Bound forGlory.
Skipping ahead a little bit, hecut Little Darlings.
We did cover him for 9 to 5.
Go check that one out.
He cut The Best LittleWhorehouse in Texas.

SPEAKER_04 (14:19):
Okay.

SPEAKER_00 (14:20):
Johnny Dangerously.
He comes back for NationalLampoon's European Vacation.
He gets another Oscar nominationfor Out of Africa.
Some of his other creditsinclude Legal Eagles, Who's That
Girl, Great Balls Fire,Groundhog Day, so he reteams
with Ramis on that.

SPEAKER_01 (14:40):
Yeah, yeah.

SPEAKER_00 (14:40):
As well as his final credit was Multiplicity.
Oh,

SPEAKER_01 (14:43):
okay.

SPEAKER_00 (14:44):
So...
So it sounds like he probably, Ithink he was maybe around like
90 or so when he passed.
And he passed in 2020, soMultiplicity was a 90s film.
So it sounds like he probablyretired after that point just to
live his life.

SPEAKER_01 (15:00):
Imagine naming your kid Pembroke.

SPEAKER_00 (15:03):
Love it.
Love that name.
Okay, we're already at the starsof this film.
Starting with, of course, ChevyChase.

SPEAKER_01 (15:13):
Everyone loves this guy.
Right?

SPEAKER_00 (15:17):
I mean, we know people who really do love him.
I think

SPEAKER_01 (15:23):
people love his work.

SPEAKER_00 (15:25):
Yeah.

SPEAKER_01 (15:25):
Yeah.

SPEAKER_00 (15:26):
Yeah.
I think that's a great way toput it.
I definitely appreciate hishumor.
I especially appreciate hisphysical humor.

SPEAKER_01 (15:33):
Yeah.

SPEAKER_00 (15:34):
Great physical comedy.

SPEAKER_01 (15:35):
Yes.

SPEAKER_00 (15:37):
Guy.
Just

SPEAKER_01 (15:38):
dancing with the sandwich in this movie.

SPEAKER_00 (15:40):
He kind of reminds me, actually, as far as his
physical comedy...
I think there's a comparison tobe made between him and John
Ritter.

SPEAKER_01 (15:48):
Yeah.
Yeah, I could see that.

SPEAKER_00 (15:51):
Really similar.

SPEAKER_01 (15:52):
Yeah.

SPEAKER_00 (15:53):
Although I'd give

SPEAKER_01 (15:53):
the edge to Ritter.

SPEAKER_00 (15:55):
I do too he was

SPEAKER_01 (15:56):
kind of next level but that's what I

SPEAKER_00 (15:57):
oh my god that episode of Three's Company where
he goes to like a party but he'slike I don't know why he's high
on drugs I remember do you knowwhat I know the one you're yeah
oh my god it's incredible yeahit's absolutely phenomenal it
might be like one of the bestlike on par with like Lucille
Ball like oh

SPEAKER_04 (16:14):
yeah

SPEAKER_00 (16:15):
amazing amazing uh but yeah Chevy Chase kind of
reminds me of that so This isour introduction, this film, to
the Griswold family.
And Chase is the patriarch,Clark Griswold.
So it has been a minute sincewe've talked about him.
I think the last time we did,and honestly, there are plenty

(16:38):
of other opportunities, I shouldsay, to talk about him.
He had a very strong 80s.

SPEAKER_01 (16:44):
There are some really bizarre movies with him
in the 80s.

SPEAKER_00 (16:49):
Yeah.

SPEAKER_01 (16:51):
Yeah.

SPEAKER_00 (16:52):
OK.
I mean, maybe I'm not asfamiliar with those, but.
Well,

SPEAKER_01 (16:55):
I think the one where he gets psychic powers
because he's driving behind avehicle with radioactive nuclear
waste.

SPEAKER_00 (17:03):
What's that one called?

SPEAKER_01 (17:03):
Modern Problems.

SPEAKER_00 (17:05):
I think you've brought that up before.
It

SPEAKER_01 (17:07):
feels like like I know that I actually saw it as a
kid.
possibly my parents took me tothe theater to see it which if
we ever saw it you'd realize howbizarre of a choice that would
have been by my parents but

SPEAKER_00 (17:17):
yeah

SPEAKER_01 (17:18):
yeah it's like a fever dream memory of this movie
because it was just so wild i

SPEAKER_00 (17:23):
do remember you bringing this up for something
probably an episode and yeah hedefinitely will always be
solidified as like a greatcomedian um Again, a very
specific type of humor,especially in his heyday in the
80s.
He's still working for sure, butI think most people know him

(17:45):
from his work from the 80s.

SPEAKER_01 (17:47):
People either know him from his movies from the 80s
or from Community.

SPEAKER_00 (17:51):
Yes.
And

SPEAKER_01 (17:52):
everything that comes along with that.

SPEAKER_00 (17:53):
Right.
Yeah.
Correct.
And he, you know, I do have thiscredit down, like, but it comes
a little bit later because of...
When he finally kind of stoppedon that series, just the way
that IMDb ranks credits.
But he started out like many ofthese guys on SNL.
I think a lot of people,probably his most notable bit or

(18:17):
shtick or whatever you want tocall it, was like him being
Gerald Ford.

SPEAKER_01 (18:21):
Yeah, yeah.

SPEAKER_00 (18:22):
And that's where I think he first showcased that
physical humor because...
Right or wrong.
Yeah, accurate or not, which Idon't think it actually was that
accurate.
They portrayed him as just beingthis like bumbling buffoon who,
you know, trips over his ownfeet.
Well, the

SPEAKER_01 (18:39):
guy trips, I think, getting out of a plane or
something like one of thosetypes of things.

SPEAKER_00 (18:42):
So like one time the guy trips and he's forever known
as.
Yeah.
So among his credits, very earlyin the career, again, all films.
So we have Oh, Heavenly Dog.
Oh, yeah.
We will at some point doCaddyshack.
He does return for Caddyshack 2.
We did cover him with Steve forFletch, which very recently just

(19:08):
had its 40th anniversary becauseSteve is a big fan of that film.
So he brought that to myattention.

SPEAKER_01 (19:13):
He's a big fan of the film and the books, right?

SPEAKER_00 (19:16):
Yes.
Yeah.
Yes, he definitely is.
It's So I know that we've, like,largely just this podcast has
evolved to be mostly you and me,but we've had guests on the show
where it's very cool to see whatpeople's, like, passions are
and, like, interests are.
Yeah.
We've had so many guests where,like, Steve is one of them,

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where he loves, like, Fletch.
He, I think, is a fan of ChevyChase's work, his filmography.
You know...
David Mycor, huge Halloween fan,as well as huge Rocky fan.
And we've done both with him.
Of course, our good friendCasey, huge Back to the Future

(20:01):
fan.
Like, it's really fun to see allthese people and what they love
from this era.
I really enjoy that.
And so, yeah, he, of course,comes back for Fletch Lives.
And then he is Clark Griswold.
So he has been part of all themajor vacation movies.
So that includes EuropeanVacation, Chris Christmas
Vacation Vegas Vacation and thenthey did a film more recently

(20:26):
just called Vacation

SPEAKER_01 (20:27):
with Ed Helms and Christina Applegate

SPEAKER_00 (20:30):
good job

SPEAKER_01 (20:31):
yeah

SPEAKER_00 (20:32):
and Ed Helms is like the adult Rusty

SPEAKER_01 (20:34):
yes

SPEAKER_00 (20:35):
so Chase has more of a cameo in that film because it
really follows Rusty and hisfamily

SPEAKER_01 (20:41):
yeah

SPEAKER_00 (20:42):
but he is definitely in it and then other huge 80s
films Spies Like Us

SPEAKER_01 (20:47):
definitely we have to cover that at some point yeah

SPEAKER_00 (20:49):
That's with Ackroyd, correct?

SPEAKER_01 (20:51):
Yeah, yeah.

SPEAKER_00 (20:52):
Three Amigos with Steve Martin and Mark Short.

SPEAKER_01 (20:55):
His name in that movie...
Spies Like Us?
His name in Three Amigos isDusty Bottoms.

SPEAKER_00 (21:01):
Nice.

SPEAKER_01 (21:01):
Yeah.

SPEAKER_00 (21:02):
Funny Farm, Nothing But Trouble, Man of the House,
like we're moving into the 90s,Orange County.
And so...
Later in his career, more TVwork.
He was on Chuck for a while.
I already mentioned that he didstart out on SNL.
The reason why I've listed thatso late is because he must have
made guest appearances and thenthey bump up down the line, that

(21:22):
credit, chronologically.
To your point, community, a lot,a lot, a lot has been said about
that.
A lot

SPEAKER_01 (21:34):
has been said by...
Joel McHale, other people whowere on the show.
So

SPEAKER_00 (21:40):
like we're not going to go down that rabbit hole, but
no need.
But he was on it.
And then more recently, a filmcalled The Christmas Letter.
So like he's still working.
He just I think he's got to beclose to 80.

SPEAKER_01 (21:57):
You know that like.
You're in high demand when it'sjust mostly him and Paul Simon
in the music video for You CanCall Me

SPEAKER_00 (22:05):
Al.
Oh, sure.
Yeah.

SPEAKER_01 (22:06):
And he does really show off a lot of his physical
comedy and goofiness in thatvideo.

SPEAKER_00 (22:12):
Yeah.
There's going to be, as we getthrough all these people, I'm
going to make another comparisonwith somebody else who's
featured in this film.
Oh.
But we'll get to that when weget to it.

SPEAKER_03 (22:23):
Okay.

UNKNOWN (22:23):
Okay.

SPEAKER_00 (22:23):
Next, we're going to go over Beverly D'Angelo, who
plays Ellen Griswold, Clark'swife.
And she's great, too.
I mean, she's had such aninteresting career.
I have actually really similarto Chase, where early in her
career, I have a ton of films.
And later on, she's done someTV.

(22:43):
But she has this little bitpart.
It's not a big role, but I justwanted to call it that she was
in Annie Hall.
Oh, really?
Yeah.
I didn't know that.
OK.
Little role.
Little role.
Every Which Way But Loose?

SPEAKER_01 (22:54):
Oh, so there were two of the Clint Eastwood, him
as a trucker with his orangutanbuddy, Clyde, possibly.
There was Every Which Way ButLoose and Every Which Way You
Can.
And I can never remember whichone's first.
But that was the premise wasthat he was a truck driver who

(23:16):
had an orangutan companion whomade extra money on the side
street fighting.

SPEAKER_00 (23:22):
wow

SPEAKER_01 (23:23):
yeah that was that was the premise

SPEAKER_00 (23:27):
okay okay um okay yeah i know

SPEAKER_01 (23:32):
it leaves you speechless just thinking about
it i know i get it

SPEAKER_00 (23:36):
she was in the film hair coal miner's daughter so
she's in a lot of well hair imean here's a musical but like
more serious fare And then shestarts up with like the vacation
movies.
And look, she's done far morethan the vacation movies, but I
think she will always beremembered most.

(23:56):
for this franchise.
I

SPEAKER_01 (23:59):
think so.

SPEAKER_00 (23:59):
Yeah.
I don't know how she feels aboutthat, but I think that that is
probably what she will be known

SPEAKER_01 (24:04):
for.
Like Leslie Nielsen did seriousstuff, but you're always going
to remember him from The NakedGun and from Airplane.

SPEAKER_00 (24:10):
She has done drama since, and I'll get to one in
particular.
But yeah, so she's part of allthose films too.
So she comes back for EuropeanVacation, Christmas Vacation,
Vegas, and just Vacation.
She was in the film Made toOrder with Ally Sheedy, High
Spirits, Man Trouble, Eye for anEye.
She has a very notable role inAmerican History X.

SPEAKER_01 (24:33):
Another family comedy.

SPEAKER_00 (24:35):
Oh, Jesus.
Never watching that movie.
It is...

SPEAKER_01 (24:39):
Especially now.
Especially now.
It would be particularlydifficult to watch now because
it's as though the movie neverexisted and no one ever got the
message.

SPEAKER_00 (24:48):
Yeah.
Yeah.
It...

SPEAKER_01 (24:53):
Maybe people should watch

SPEAKER_00 (24:54):
it now.
It's a phenomenal movie.
It is.
The performances all around areabsolutely astounding.

SPEAKER_01 (25:00):
Yeah.

SPEAKER_00 (25:01):
From like everybody.
But...
And she plays the mom.
Yep.
So...
But it is a highly challengingfilm to watch.
It was then, and I'm sure it isnow.

SPEAKER_01 (25:13):
It was the kid from Terminator 2.

SPEAKER_00 (25:15):
Yeah.

SPEAKER_01 (25:15):
Right?
And

SPEAKER_00 (25:16):
Edward Norton?
Norton, yep.

SPEAKER_01 (25:17):
Yeah.
So I'm going to make a hugechange in directions and say
it's not as though it's a moviethat may as well have never been
made.
It's like a movie that isprobably more important for
people to see now than ever toget a sense

SPEAKER_00 (25:31):
of...
It's kind of...
Well, no, I shouldn't say this.
I was almost going to say it'skind of insane that it got
greenlit.
But there's plenty of indies,real indies that do still get
made today.
But I mean, I'm glad it wasmade.
I'm glad I watched it.
I'm never going to watch itagain because it's...

(25:52):
It's really fucking tough.

SPEAKER_01 (25:53):
It's difficult to watch.

SPEAKER_00 (25:54):
Yeah.

SPEAKER_01 (25:54):
Yeah.

SPEAKER_00 (25:55):
She also was in Sugar Town.
And talk about a pivot.
Harold and Kumar escaped fromGuantanamo Bay.
This might be the first and onlytime I ever bring up this movie
on this show.
She's in The House Buddy.
Oh,

SPEAKER_01 (26:09):
really?
Yeah.

SPEAKER_00 (26:10):
Yeah.

SPEAKER_01 (26:12):
You were kind of in that.
Yes.
Right at the beginning, right?

SPEAKER_00 (26:18):
And at the end.
Yes.
Yeah.
Yeah.
Yeah.
Okay.
So if anybody ever wants towatch the house, buddy.
So in the opening sequence whereAnna Faris is talking about her
childhood.
I

SPEAKER_01 (26:37):
respect that they got, even though the
pronunciation is wrong, they gotAnna, Anna.

SPEAKER_00 (26:42):
Yeah.
Yeah.
From one Anna to another.
So they're doing kind of thisquick montage and like a series
of photographs and And there's aclass picture and they linger
for a second on a little girlwho air quotes looks normal.
And then they pan over to kindof this like geeky looking girl

(27:04):
and that's supposed to be her.
I am the normal looking girl inthat.
And then at the very, very endof the movie, there's another
photograph of all the sororitysisters.
You actually could find meprobably a couple times because
we had to double up on some ofthe images.
So I think I'm probably in thatmore than once.

(27:27):
That's my claim to fame.
That is probably the first andonly time I'll ever be in front
of a camera.
And I'm not even really in frontof a camera.
It's just photos.
Anyway, so there we go.
There's that.
And then she did have a stint onEntourage for a while.
So now some TV shows, Shooter,and then I think it's already
been canceled, but the TV seriesof True Lies.

SPEAKER_01 (27:48):
Probably.
Yeah.

SPEAKER_00 (27:50):
So, okay.
As far as billing goes, theseare not the two people that are
billed next.
I understand why they gave it toImogene Coca, and we will get to
her in a second.
However, I'm just going to goover the entire Griswold family
because...
That's what I think makes sense.

SPEAKER_01 (28:07):
We can do what we want.

SPEAKER_00 (28:08):
Yeah.
So we're going to start with, ofthe two kids, Anthony Michael
Hall.
You mentioned him at the top.
He is Rusty Griswold.
I mean, it's hilarious becauseliterally that's kind of, I
don't know if I'd say it's thejoke.
Obviously, kids grow up and theysomewhat keep these films static
in time.

(28:30):
Because they always have teenagekids.

SPEAKER_01 (28:32):
Yeah.
They grow up a little bit forVegas Vacation.
Sure.
Yeah.

SPEAKER_00 (28:38):
Yeah.
But they have to have kids.
Except for this last movie,Vacation, they were always kids.
And so, obviously, you've got toswap out the kids.
You can't keep the same kids.
They

SPEAKER_01 (28:51):
barely kept him in this movie.

SPEAKER_00 (28:53):
Yeah.
Anthony Michael Hall is thefirst Rusty.

SPEAKER_01 (28:56):
Because he kept growing.
Yeah.

SPEAKER_00 (28:57):
I imagine.
So is that what you read that?

SPEAKER_01 (29:00):
He was supposed to be the younger sibling, but he
grew three inches from when theyfirst started the film.
So they kind of like switchedthat up.
And you can notice in thebeginning of the movie, he's
about the same height as hismom, as Beverly D'Angelo.
And then by the other sceneslater, he's already grown.
He's had like

SPEAKER_00 (29:19):
this huge growth spurt.
Did they film it in order?
Yeah.
well

SPEAKER_01 (29:23):
no I was thinking of that as I said I and I don't I'm

SPEAKER_00 (29:25):
not sure but okay

SPEAKER_01 (29:26):
like you'll notice it in different scenes I'm not
sure when you would see it butyeah

SPEAKER_00 (29:31):
that's hilarious I mean yeah he's a teenager he's
growing his puberty

SPEAKER_01 (29:35):
they did really travel to all those locations
they did

SPEAKER_00 (29:38):
oh I would imagine so yeah

SPEAKER_01 (29:40):
they visited all those spots that the you see and

SPEAKER_00 (29:42):
that's why it was hilarious at the end when we
were watching closing credits Iwas just like man it's wild how
how things have and like lookI'm not saying unnecessarily so
but when you watch credits todayeven for the most indie films.
It is a long list of credits.
And the fact that they didtravel to all these places and
just what that would entaillogistically.

SPEAKER_01 (30:01):
There's some busy people.

SPEAKER_00 (30:03):
Yeah, I was surprised that there was such a
small crew.

SPEAKER_01 (30:05):
Although, I'll just bring this up.
We noted, we were talking aboutwhen they get to the end, when
they get to Wally World, it'sobviously Six Flags, Magic
Mountain.
But when they're in the parkinglot, that was actually the
parking lot of Santa Anita.

SPEAKER_00 (30:19):
That makes a lot of sense.

SPEAKER_01 (30:20):
With like a big background.

SPEAKER_00 (30:22):
We've been there.
That makes a lot of sense.
And they

SPEAKER_01 (30:24):
were like, they're doing the run, like running back
up to the entrance gate.
It was like well over 100degrees when they were doing

SPEAKER_00 (30:32):
that.
Oh, I can imagine.
Yeah.
And I think because what othermovie did we film or did we
cover where they...
probably couldn't get the rightsto the chariots of fire theme.
And so they did something thatwas really similar, but it does
sound like they did get therights to the chariots of fire
for this one.
I

SPEAKER_01 (30:50):
think so.
Yeah.
Yeah.

SPEAKER_00 (30:51):
They actually had some like legit songs in this,
uh, the Ramones.

SPEAKER_01 (30:56):
Yeah.

SPEAKER_00 (30:57):
Maybe this is the best time to bring this up.
Maybe somebody can let us knowit.
I love the song Holiday Road byLindsey Buckingham, but it
sounds like it's been sped upthroughout the entire film.

SPEAKER_01 (31:09):
So we watched it just through our spectrum, like
our cable provider.
You could watch it on demandthrough that.
I was wondering, because we alsohad a version where it edited
the profanities.

SPEAKER_00 (31:22):
Yeah.

SPEAKER_01 (31:23):
I wonder if there was something where they
compressed the front and backfor a time.
I don't

SPEAKER_00 (31:28):
know.
Maybe.
I don't know.
So back to...
Anthony Michael Hall.
I mean, he's great in this.
He is.
I really love this kid in thismovie.
He kind of has his dad's numberthe entire time.
Yes.
He has this really interestingdemeanor about him.

(31:50):
He kind

SPEAKER_01 (31:50):
of knows his dad is full of

SPEAKER_00 (31:51):
shit.
Yeah.
He kind of knows his dad's kindof this idiot, but he's still
just...
Kind of loves him anyway.
Like, it's a really interestingperformance.

SPEAKER_01 (32:02):
Interesting when you consider he eventually turns
into Ed Helms, who is the same.

SPEAKER_00 (32:06):
Yeah.

SPEAKER_01 (32:08):
He turns into his dad.

SPEAKER_00 (32:09):
Yeah, exactly.
Yeah.
And also what's so interestingabout this is that this.
OK, so Hughes was the writer.
So this is probably theintroduction between them
because then he does go on.

SPEAKER_01 (32:23):
Yeah.

SPEAKER_00 (32:24):
And literally his next three films are 16 Candles,
The Breakfast Club, WeirdScience.

SPEAKER_01 (32:29):
He's great in this.
So it makes sense, right?

SPEAKER_00 (32:32):
It is.
I think it is reallyinteresting.
And I do not fault him at allfor what kind of like the
different pivots he made in hiscareer.
Because like in this film...

SPEAKER_01 (32:40):
Big time.
He made some huge pivots.

SPEAKER_00 (32:42):
He made some huge pivots.
In this film, he's just a kid.
And honestly, he's pretty savvy,like we were saying.
And like not a...
air quotes whatever not a nerdnot a dork not a geek at all
he's just a kid

SPEAKER_02 (32:58):
yeah

SPEAKER_00 (32:59):
and then once he gets into his like hughes era he
is unfortunately every singlerole typecast as like literally
in 16 candles his name is geekwell like like that's the that's
like the credit name that he has

SPEAKER_01 (33:14):
and he didn't have to be right like I guess
compared to the rest of the caston that, that makes the most
sense for him.
But he wasn't a geek in this.
Like

SPEAKER_00 (33:25):
you said, he was just a kid.
No, no, he wasn't.

SPEAKER_01 (33:28):
He's the geekiest, though, in 16 Candles.

SPEAKER_00 (33:31):
By far.

SPEAKER_01 (33:32):
Yeah.

SPEAKER_00 (33:32):
I mean, Breakfast Club, he is, again, he is an
archetype.

SPEAKER_01 (33:36):
Yeah.

SPEAKER_00 (33:37):
In Breakfast Club, as they all are.
And so, again, that's where hefalls into.
Weird Science is the most, like,kind of egregious in terms of,
like, really over the top.

SPEAKER_01 (33:47):
I'm not looking forward to when we do that and
we have to talk about the club.

SPEAKER_00 (33:52):
Yeah.
Yeah.
Well, we have some stuff to talkabout in this film, too.
Yeah.
We do.
Yeah.
So...
Yeah, so he goes through his,like, Hughes era, and then he
pivots hard out of that to tryto, you know, I don't know if
I'd say, like, rebrand himself.
But, like, then he does the filmJohnny B.
Goode, where he's this, like,popular jock who gets all the

(34:12):
girls.
It's kind of a cringe film.
Yeah.
He, again, plays, like, thistotal meathead in Edward
Scissorhands.
Yeah.
he's in Freddie got fingered.
I've never watched that movie.
So I don't know what that'sabout.
Um, so he, he's in a video, Ithink it was like direct to
video, but it's interestingcause he was in a film called

(34:34):
the dead zone.
And then that became a TVseries, which he had it up.

SPEAKER_01 (34:38):
So yeah, that was a Stephen King novel.
I thought so.
And the original movie wasChristopher Walken playing that
role.
Yeah.
Michael Anthony Hall playslater.
Um, Yeah, it's about someonewith, like, this...
He's in a car crash.
He's in a coma.
When he comes back, he, I think,just shakes the hand of the

(34:58):
president.
That's right.
Or a candidate for presidency.
And he sees, like, into thefuture of, like, the apocalypse
that this candidate will bring.
And so then the rest of themovie is him kind of figuring
out how to assassinate thispotential candidate.

SPEAKER_00 (35:15):
Yeah, so I do remember you...
You've brought up that filmbefore, or

SPEAKER_01 (35:21):
maybe just the book.
Not really a John Hughes kind ofstory.
No.
Very much a pivot into different

SPEAKER_00 (35:28):
stuff.
Yes, yes, for sure.
And this is now, we're like inthe 90s.
He, I think, has just a smallrole in The Dark Knight.
He's done other TV work.
He was on a TV show calledAwkward for a while.
This, okay, I don't mean to ragso hard on...
The Halloween franchise.
But...

(35:49):
It's,

SPEAKER_01 (35:49):
you know, we critique it because we love it.

SPEAKER_00 (35:53):
Yeah.
I'm sure that's what other StarWars fans would say about their
toxic fandom.

SPEAKER_01 (35:58):
No, they're just nuts.

SPEAKER_00 (36:00):
But...
So he's in Halloween Kills.
He is the adult version of TommyDoyle.
And...
Honestly, because Idouble-checked the filmography.
I was like, does he have anycameo at all in either the 2018
Halloween or Halloween Ends?
I don't think he does.
I don't think he does.
He's just in Halloween Kills.

(36:21):
Yeah.
So he's in that.
He's in Clerks 3.
I did not know that was a moviemade.
This makes all the sense in theworld.
He had a stint on the Goldbergs.

SPEAKER_01 (36:35):
Yeah, it does make sense.

SPEAKER_00 (36:36):
And the TV show Reacher.

SPEAKER_01 (36:39):
Okay.

SPEAKER_00 (36:39):
So, okay, moving on to the daughter, Dana Barron.
She plays Audrey in Same.
This is her one and only, oneand done as Audrey.
Other actresses have taken onthe role.

SPEAKER_01 (36:51):
Not necessarily.

SPEAKER_00 (36:52):
What?

SPEAKER_01 (36:54):
She comes back.

SPEAKER_00 (36:55):
Oh, are you talking about the commercials?
No.

SPEAKER_01 (36:57):
So there's a TV movie called At least it's
listed as a TV movie.
Christmas Vacation 2, CousinEddie's Island Adventure.

SPEAKER_00 (37:05):
Okay, so I saw that.
What is that?
I saw it.
I didn't even bother withlisting that for anybody.
Fair enough.
Okay, fair.
I stand corrected.
I stand corrected.
She plays Audrey more than once.
I

SPEAKER_01 (37:17):
didn't even know that existed.
I'm probably not going to...

SPEAKER_00 (37:21):
Although once we get to Randy Quaid, he has such an
interesting career.
OK, so among her credits, Imean, she's still working.
It's not as extensive afilmography, but she was in the
film Heaven Help Us, HeartbreakHotel.
I don't know this show, but shehad a extremely long stint on a
series called Crossbow.

SPEAKER_01 (37:41):
Never heard of it.
Yeah.
But it looks like it featuresarchery of some kind.

SPEAKER_00 (37:45):
Maybe.
She, for a while, was on theoriginal Beverly Hills 90210, as
well as the TV series TheMagnificent Seven, and then
beyond that.
And now we're going to startgetting into everybody else who
I've listed my common refrainof, like, she's done a ton of,
like, one-offs and two-offs onTV shows.
So, okay, now we're going tocover, and I love her first

(38:07):
name, Imogene Coca.

SPEAKER_01 (38:08):
That is a cool name.

SPEAKER_00 (38:10):
Yeah.
So she played...
Aunt Edna.

SPEAKER_01 (38:14):
It's no Pembroke, but it's a cool name.

SPEAKER_00 (38:16):
It is a cool name.
Both her character name and realname.
She passed in 2001.
And here's what's like sointeresting.
This is just a fuck up, I think,on IMDb or whoever listed her
credits.
So she was a comedian, maybevery much akin to Lucille Ball.
I am not super familiar with herwork prior to this.

(38:36):
This is like what I know herfrom.
But she...
was a very popular comedicactress, especially in
television.
Okay.
And I think that one of herbiggest shows is called Your
Show of Shows.
It was probably like...
Your Show of Shows.
Like sketch comedy, I think,type stuff.

SPEAKER_01 (38:56):
Yeah.

SPEAKER_00 (38:57):
And she was on it as like a regular series character,
but she is only credited withone episode.
That's

SPEAKER_01 (39:04):
weird.

SPEAKER_00 (39:04):
So...
weird she had her own show shealso had the imaging coca show
okay so there you go she was ona tv show called grindle don't
know as well as it's about timeand just in general like i mean
she was in other films but likereally her her foot was solidly
in tv and that's what she didfor most of her career so okay

(39:28):
moving on to randy quaid cousineddie

SPEAKER_01 (39:34):
Cousin Eddie, Jesus Christ.
This guy.
This guy.
This whole family.

SPEAKER_00 (39:38):
Well, look, I brought this up, I think, at the
tail end of the previous episodeof any vacation movies.
And I know a ton of peopleabsolutely love and adore
Christmas Vacation.
But this is my favorite of thevacation movies because it's the
most subdued.
And that includes Cousin Eddie'srole.

SPEAKER_01 (39:58):
Yes.
I think that's mostly right.
I think...
Like Christmas vacation getspretty crazy.
Two is just too jarring withlike the changes to the cast.
And it's just like.

SPEAKER_00 (40:12):
You're being in vacation is like bananas.

SPEAKER_01 (40:15):
Yeah.
I actually, I do like Vegasvacation.
I think it's really, I love thePapa Giorgio storyline for
Rusty.
I

SPEAKER_00 (40:24):
don't.

SPEAKER_01 (40:25):
He gets a fake ID.
Oh,

SPEAKER_00 (40:26):
okay.

SPEAKER_01 (40:27):
And his name is like something Papa Giorgio.

SPEAKER_00 (40:30):
And isn't Rusty the guy from Big Bang Theory?
Yeah.

UNKNOWN (40:35):
Possibly.

SPEAKER_01 (40:37):
But he just goes

SPEAKER_00 (40:38):
on like...
Oh no, that's ChristmasVacation.
Never mind.

SPEAKER_01 (40:40):
He goes on like this incredible winning spree.
Wins the family cars.
It's like...
It's kind of nice to seesomething good happen to him.

SPEAKER_00 (40:47):
Actually, I think Rusty is...
What's his name from a far offplace, right?

SPEAKER_01 (40:52):
You're just like naming things now.
I don't know.
I was thinking maybe if I justkeep talking about this win

SPEAKER_02 (40:59):
streak...

SPEAKER_01 (41:03):
I would have to admit that I'm not sure I
understand the references.
I'm not getting them.

SPEAKER_00 (41:07):
It's...
Oh, my gosh.
It is...
I know that Audrey is JulietteLewis.
And then...
Oh, no! It was...
Okay, wait.
I just looked up ChristmasVacation.
So Christmas Vacation, the kidsare Juliette Lewis and Johnny
Galecki.
Yeah.
So that's who...
I meant from Big Bang Theory.
So that's Christmas.

(41:28):
And then Vegas Vacation.
Yeah,

SPEAKER_01 (41:31):
let's look at it.
Let's get some quacking keysgoing.

SPEAKER_00 (41:33):
What do we got?
I try to be quiet about it.
But then the kids.
That's what I thought.
Rusty is Ethan Embry.
Okay.
And then Audrey.
I don't know her.
Marisol Nichols.
So, okay.
There we go.

SPEAKER_01 (41:47):
There

SPEAKER_00 (41:48):
we go.
All right.
I'm sorry.
You were saying?

SPEAKER_01 (41:50):
I don't remember.
Okay.

SPEAKER_00 (41:52):
He got a fake ID.

SPEAKER_01 (41:55):
Yeah, he became this Papa Giorgio character and just
won.
And to be fair, the whole familywins because that one guy dies
playing that game at the end andthey just take his

SPEAKER_00 (42:07):
ticket.
Oh, yeah, that's right.
Yeah.
That's right.
Okay.
So Cousin Eddie, Randy Quaid,what an interesting career.
Indeed.
He...
Before these Vegas movies...
had a fairly serious, like, Ithink was known a lot as a

(42:27):
dramatic actor.
I

SPEAKER_01 (42:28):
mean, he's in one of the most serious fucking movies
that you will

SPEAKER_00 (42:33):
see.
Midnight Express?
Yes, that's the one.
Yeah.
I clocked that too.
I am not, and this was, Ilearned a lot about his career.
I, really only know him from thevacation movies and he has

SPEAKER_01 (42:47):
Independence Day

SPEAKER_00 (42:48):
Independence Day and then like I'm not gonna go down
the rabbit hole but he's had awhole thing outside of like his
work where he has I thinkbehaved or said things that come
across a little erratic a littlewacky I'm

SPEAKER_01 (43:02):
disregarding all of those for purposes of of this

SPEAKER_00 (43:05):
yes same so I don't remember him.
We watched this for a differentpodcast.
Not our podcast.
Last Picture Show.
Really?
Yeah, I don't remember him, likewho he was in that.
I don't

SPEAKER_01 (43:19):
either, but I really enjoyed that movie.

SPEAKER_00 (43:21):
Yeah, I know you did.

SPEAKER_01 (43:22):
I mean, it's a good movie.

SPEAKER_00 (43:24):
It's a great movie.
And it's clear that he had arelationship with Peter
Bogdanovich because he's inseveral of his movies.
Last Picture Show is one ofthem.
My favorite of his movies,probably, well, What's Up, Doc?
He's in that.
And the reason why I was like,eh, eh, is because I also love
Paper Moon.
Yeah.
So he's in all those movies.
He...
is an oscar nominated actor hewas up for best supporting actor

(43:49):
in a film called the last detailhe is in the film the missouri
breaks you already mentionedmidnight express he is in we
could do this the wraith

SPEAKER_01 (43:59):
oh we're going to i think yeah that's going to be
like a halloween one right

SPEAKER_00 (44:04):
If you want to pick the Wraith, then go for it.
It wasn't my pick this year, butwe have talked about it so much
that maybe

SPEAKER_01 (44:10):
we should.
Because what's his name?
Charlie Sheen is in that, right?
Yeah.
So I figured we wouldeventually.
We

SPEAKER_00 (44:17):
will eventually.
Yeah.
He is in Kitty Shock 2, so hekind of reteams with Chase.
He's in a film.
I remember this film.
I never saw it.
Parents.
Isn't it like cannibalistic ormurderous?
Murderous parents?
I have not seen that

SPEAKER_01 (44:30):
movie, but you're- peeking my curiosity.

SPEAKER_00 (44:34):
I think that's somewhere around what it's
about.
He does come back for Christmasvacation and Vegas vacation.
He's not a European becausethey're in Europe.

SPEAKER_01 (44:44):
Yeah, right?
God, we're all ripped off.
We don't get the

SPEAKER_00 (44:48):
cousin Eddie experience.
We're ripped off?
Yes.
I don't know who he possiblycould play.
He's in Days of Thunder.

SPEAKER_01 (44:55):
Well, Days of Thunder, to the extent it's a
movie about NASCAR racing, hecould be virtually anyone.

SPEAKER_00 (45:01):
Sure.
I did not know that he was onSaturday Night Live.
I

SPEAKER_01 (45:06):
didn't either.

SPEAKER_00 (45:06):
So that show, I don't know it.
It's called the Dave or I'msorry, just Davis Rules.
He was in the film The Paper.
And then to your point, probablythe two other films that he is
most well known for IndependenceDay and Kingpin.

SPEAKER_01 (45:21):
Yes.
Big time.
Kingpin.

SPEAKER_00 (45:23):
Yeah.
Yeah.
He was in another teen movie.
I don't know who he would haveplayed in this, but he is in
Brokeback Mountain.

UNKNOWN (45:32):
Hmm.

SPEAKER_01 (45:32):
Just probably a rancher or cowboy dude.

SPEAKER_00 (45:36):
And then he reteams yet again with Chase because he
too is in The Christmas Letter.

SPEAKER_01 (45:43):
The Christmas Letter.

SPEAKER_00 (45:44):
Yeah.

SPEAKER_01 (45:45):
Is that a Hallmark movie?

SPEAKER_00 (45:46):
Maybe.

SPEAKER_01 (45:47):
Oh.

SPEAKER_00 (45:48):
Or Lifetime.
I don't know.
Who knows?
All right.
Moving on to Cousin Catherine,Miriam Flynn.
She...
You know what?
Of any of the characters, sheremains understated, I think,
for all of her stints as CousinCatherine.

SPEAKER_01 (46:06):
I think she has to, to balance that out.
Yeah.
It'd be too much if they wereboth like Cousin Eddie.
Agreed.

SPEAKER_00 (46:14):
And she is still very much working to this day.
Very early in her career, shewas on a TV show called Maggie,
which I think she might haveeven been the...
She was Maggie?
Yeah.
We brought her up for Mr.
Mom.

SPEAKER_01 (46:28):
Oh, she like one of the neighbors?
Yes.
Okay.

SPEAKER_00 (46:31):
She's like the normal neighbor who actually
kind of, she's the neighbor thatdoesn't hit.
She's not

SPEAKER_01 (46:36):
the affair neighbor.

SPEAKER_00 (46:37):
No, she is not the affair neighbor.

SPEAKER_01 (46:39):
Okay.

SPEAKER_00 (46:39):
Now I recognize her.
So she's great.
I love her role in that film.
So she's in that.
She's in For Keeps, StealingHome.
She, too, comes back forChristmas Vacation, Vegas
Vacation.
She's done a ton of voice work.
So some of the shows, likeanimated shows that she's done
voice for, Tasmania, TheSpooktacular New Adventures of

(47:02):
Casper, Chalk Zone.
Yeah.
Other movies, Waiting forGuffman, Evolution.
And she's done shows where she'slike in front of the camera,
like Grounded for Life, Call MeCat, and just a lot more TV
work.
Like both for voice and in frontof the camera.
Okay.
Okay.
So this is what I brought up.
This is the last person we'regoing to like really feature.

(47:23):
Eddie Bracken.
So he is Roy Wally.
Wally World.

SPEAKER_01 (47:28):
Of Wally World, right?

SPEAKER_00 (47:30):
Correct.
Yeah.
Passed in 2002.
And...
Are you familiar with him atall?

SPEAKER_01 (47:39):
I have to admit, I am unfamiliar with his work.

SPEAKER_00 (47:41):
That's okay.
So he had a huge career beforethis movie ever came along.
But, you know, it's totally coolif people of a certain
generation only know him fromthis film.
Huge comedic actor.
And he was in a couple filmsfrom probably my all-time
favorite filmmaker, PrestonSturgis.

(48:03):
Okay.
And, I mean...
If there's anybody in theindustry who I admire and am
like a little envious andjealous of, it's Preston
Sturgis.
He was a phenomenal writer,phenomenal director.
He was so adept at clever comedymixed with slapstick.

(48:25):
He just was amazing.
And if I– ever brought him up toyou is probably for The Lady
Eve.
Oh,

SPEAKER_01 (48:33):
yes.

SPEAKER_00 (48:33):
Which is actually a little bit more of one of his
subdued comedy films.

SPEAKER_01 (48:37):
I mean, I'm not...
Just generally speaking, itfeels the way...
I've seen some others thatyou've shown me that are...

SPEAKER_00 (48:43):
Sullivan's Travels is probably his most well-known
film.
However, Bracken...
was in two films that I do love,The Miracle of Morgan's Creek
and Hail the Conquering Hero.
Probably more well known for TheMiracle of Morgan's Creek.
It is a little bit more of afrantic film than the ones that
you have seen, or Lady Eve atleast.

(49:06):
But he's phenomenal.
He is phenomenal in thesemovies.
And honestly, he is a muchearlier version in some regards
to Chevy Chase or John Ritter interms of that type of comedy.
And I...
want to take a guess that theybrought him on this film in
large part as like homage to, tothat type of comedy that was so

(49:27):
popular with screwball comedyback then.
I

SPEAKER_01 (49:30):
would assume that that held some influence over
like Ramis.

SPEAKER_00 (49:35):
I would think so.
If they know anything abouttheir film history.

SPEAKER_01 (49:39):
Yeah.
And I'm sure they

SPEAKER_00 (49:40):
do.
And Chase.
They did.
Yeah.
And maybe even Hughes.
And, and he was just phenomenal.
And honestly, I think like, Idon't I don't know why I'm like
pitting people.
But like he he's he is asuperior version even of Chase.
Like Chase is great.
But like if you go back toBracken's early work, he's

(50:00):
amazing.
So if ever you want to check outwho he was 40 years prior.
What's

SPEAKER_01 (50:06):
the name again?

SPEAKER_00 (50:07):
Go.
If you're going to pick one ofthe two, go to Miracle Morgan's
Creek.

SPEAKER_01 (50:10):
OK.

SPEAKER_00 (50:11):
So anyway.
Yeah.
Huge career success.
When he was younger, besidesthose two films, Hold That
Blonde, We're Not Married, bothwith exclamation points.
So Hold That Blonde, We're NotMarried.
Skipping ahead decades, he's inthe movie Oscar.
He is in Home Alone 2, Austin,New York, Rookie of the Year,
Baby's Day Out.

(50:32):
So he must have had some kind offriendship with Hughes.
And his final credit, I think hewas just on one episode of the
TV series, Ed.
But besides a ton of film work,also a ton of TV work.
Okay.
Okay.
Now, I'm not going to singlethem all out in their individual
filmographies, but I did want tonote a ton of cameos.

(50:55):
There's a lot.
Yeah, there's a lot.
I guess you would say probablythe most prominent is Christie
Brinkley.

SPEAKER_01 (51:02):
The girl in the Ferrari.

SPEAKER_00 (51:03):
So let's talk about that.

SPEAKER_01 (51:05):
Look, she held her ground and did not did not get
nude for this movie.
No.
Which they wanted her to.
But she like, you know, strippeddown underwear before hopping in
the pool.
Yeah.
But but it early versions of themovie before Jason Ramis had
done some like unofficial, Idon't know, rewrites, uncredited

(51:28):
rewrites.
It was going to be a youngercharacter who Probably not her,
Brinkley.
But it was going to be like alove interest for Rusty.
Oh.
And that was changed to likewhat we now see with it being
this like weird like obsessionwith Clark.

(51:50):
But it's just so bizarre.
Yeah.

SPEAKER_00 (51:56):
It was a really interesting choice to have that
be part of the film becauselook, it's not great.
It's pretty skeevy that he islike obsessing over this chick.

SPEAKER_01 (52:09):
This guy had one fight with his wife on the road
trip and is stripping down andjumping naked

SPEAKER_00 (52:15):
into pools.
Yeah.
And I may say this to you, likeI can say this to you because it
would never happen, but I waslike, There'd be a way bigger
problem if I ever caught younaked in a pool with somebody.

SPEAKER_01 (52:28):
Because he just comes back in and it's like...

SPEAKER_00 (52:33):
And she's more than anything, she's like, do you
like her?
Is that what you want?
I'd be fucking throwing down ifI caught my partner doing
something like that.
He

SPEAKER_01 (52:44):
tried to convince Rusty that she was like a
waitress, a swimming waitress.
And Rusty's like...
Ah, you think mom's going tofall for that?

SPEAKER_00 (52:54):
Yeah, because like I said, Rusty knows what's up.
And look, maybe this is as gooda place as any to...
Talk about, like, almost everyfilm we cover, there's stuff
that hasn't aged well.

SPEAKER_01 (53:08):
And...
It makes me wonder, like,because this was based
supposedly in part on, like...

SPEAKER_00 (53:13):
Oh, Vacation 58.

SPEAKER_01 (53:15):
Vacation, like, yeah, from John Hughes.
So I'm like, what happened onyour vacation to where, like,
was this part of it or was thisjust, like, added in?
I hope...

SPEAKER_00 (53:24):
Yeah.
I mean, look, Christie Brinkleywas hugely popular then.
So it probably was a way to justget more eyes on the film.

SPEAKER_01 (53:31):
There's a cutout of her...
For like a sunblock, suntanlotion ad or like a cardboard
cutout you'd see if you're goingto buy some sunblock in one of
the places that they visit inthe movie.

SPEAKER_00 (53:44):
Oh, that's fun.

SPEAKER_01 (53:45):
Yeah.

SPEAKER_00 (53:46):
Oh, yeah.
Oh, yeah.

(54:06):
But the whole storyline is justkind of icky.
It

SPEAKER_01 (54:09):
happens in all of them, though.
Like, in every one of them.
Like, in Christmas Vacation,there's, like, the...

SPEAKER_00 (54:17):
Oh, the woman at the store.
Yeah.
Yeah.
It's gross.
And it...
Clark is not the best husband.
No, no, he's not.
And I, again, you know, like,look, I'm not going to get too
deep on this for vacation, butlike, I hate the way that Ellen
responds.

SPEAKER_04 (54:35):
Yeah.

SPEAKER_00 (54:35):
That she just is like, oh, is that what you want?
Instead of being fucking

SPEAKER_01 (54:39):
pissed.
Well, that's why it's nice,again, bringing up Vegas
vacation.
She basically gets her ownvacation.
The Wayne Newton experience.

SPEAKER_00 (54:47):
That's right.
Yeah.
That's right.
So, and then what I was going tosay about other things that
haven't aged well.

SPEAKER_01 (54:54):
Oh my God, are you talking about when they were
trying to find directions?

SPEAKER_00 (54:57):
Yeah.

SPEAKER_01 (54:58):
Holy shit.

SPEAKER_00 (54:59):
So look, as a lot of 80s movies are, this is a very
white movie.
Yes.
And very white.
The only, and it is almost likeso starkly white.
jarring in this film becausethey make jokes out of it yeah
both instances the only timepeople are of color are shown is

(55:22):
to be the butt of a joke is tobe the butt of a joke with
horrible stereotypes yeah orjust outright like humiliation
and and you know a character isliterally treated as a dog yeah
and as it is gross that that isplayed for a joke and And then,
yes, earlier when they findthemselves in East St.

(55:44):
Louis, they're surrounded by menwho, you know, are presented as
like gangbangers or whatever andsteal from them and rip them off
money wise.
And it's just it's gross.
And it's

SPEAKER_01 (55:59):
the look, I think the portrayal of East St.
Louis.
Fair enough.

UNKNOWN (56:06):
Yeah.

SPEAKER_00 (56:07):
I don't know.
I mean, I've driven through EastSt.
Louis.
I don't know.
But it's not great.
In terms of

SPEAKER_01 (56:15):
the potential danger generally associated with East
St.
Louis.

SPEAKER_00 (56:19):
Regardless of, you know, creed, color, race,
ethnicity, background of thepeople who live there.
But, yeah.
So just calling that out.
It's really unfortunate.
I hate...
And, like, this is not to excuseanyone.
I know that, like, we, again...
A lot of 80s films are veryproblematic in a lot of ways.

(56:40):
This, again, just seems so starkbecause of the jokes that are
made out of those stereotypesand just the way that people of
color are used in this film.
And I hate that it's associatedwith two filmmakers that I, in a
lot of ways, have esteem for interms of Ramis and Hughes.

SPEAKER_01 (57:00):
I hadn't seen the movie before.
from the very beginning and solong that I completely forgot
about the whole East St.
Louis bit.

SPEAKER_00 (57:08):
I mean, more so Hughes than Ramis, and I can say
this as being somebody who hasdone a lot of study and has done
a lot of evolution on mythoughts on Hughes.
Hughes legitimately, inretrospect, leaned heavy into
gross stereotypes about a lot ofdifferent ethnicities.

(57:29):
Yeah.

UNKNOWN (57:29):
Yeah.

SPEAKER_00 (57:30):
Again, I'm not going to go on a deep dive, but I just
want to call that out because itis something that we both
clocked

SPEAKER_01 (57:34):
for this film.
And the reason I brought up notseeing it in a while is because
without seeing that bit at thebeginning, you don't really make
that same connection at the end.

SPEAKER_00 (57:43):
Correct.

SPEAKER_01 (57:43):
Because without that, it's just like, oh,
there's like another- But it'slike twice now.
But yeah, exactly.
You see it again, you're like,oh, shit.

SPEAKER_00 (57:49):
Yeah.
So other cameos.
We have Bill Murray's brother,Brian Doyle Murray.
So he's the clerk- I mean, it'sfunny little.
So it's when they're staying inthose tents.
Yeah.
And he's not like over the topredneck or whatever you would

(58:12):
describe him.
He's more just like a guy who'skind of eating a sandwich.
And I don't know what are thefunny more understated things.
like bits for me was when Chaseis like, why do you need my
address?
He's like, we send a mailer.
Like, I don't know why I foundthat so funny, but he's just
because he plays it so straight.
Yeah.
We said to me, we said toMiller.
So he's in it.
I think a lot of people clockEugene Levy at the very

(58:35):
beginning of the film as the carsalesman.

SPEAKER_01 (58:37):
Yeah.

SPEAKER_00 (58:37):
So he's great.
He's great.
Of course, John Candy.
He is Russ Lasky.

SPEAKER_01 (58:46):
Million bucks for that for that appearance.

SPEAKER_00 (58:49):
Really?

SPEAKER_01 (58:50):
Yeah.
Yeah.

SPEAKER_00 (58:52):
I mean, he was so, so early in his career, but
okay.
Like, wow.
And

SPEAKER_01 (58:58):
then funny enough, they, they created a like Wally
world water park, I think inCanada possibly.
And they tried to get him forlike the opening.
They could not afford him.

SPEAKER_00 (59:10):
They could not afford him.
You know, it's kind of funny.
Cause it's like, uh, Hughesreally liked working with him,
but even, you know, part of itis he was just in such high
demand.
He was so busy up until hispassing.
But, you know, they had aliteral, like, 24-hour clock for
him on Home Alone.

(59:31):
Like, they had to just, like,power through those scenes
because he was only availablefor literally, like, a day.
Wow.
Yeah.
So...
There you go.
And then maybe you said thiswhen we were watching it.
You're like, oh, I did notrealize that was Jane Krakowski.
So she is cousin Vicky.

SPEAKER_01 (59:50):
She has the most horrifying line possibly in the
entire movie when she's talkingabout like making out and French
kissing.
And Audrey's like, that's not abig deal.
I've done that.
And what is her line?
Like, yeah, but my dad says I'mthe best at it.

SPEAKER_00 (01:00:11):
I don't like it at all.
I don't like it at all.
I

SPEAKER_01 (01:00:14):
forgot about that.
Oh my God.
Oh

SPEAKER_00 (01:00:18):
yeah.
So probably at the time theydidn't realize this was going to
be a franchise where thatcharacter was going to keep
coming back.
But I

SPEAKER_01 (01:00:26):
mean, it's not the only inappropriate joke that
they make like throughout thefranchise.

SPEAKER_00 (01:00:32):
Oh no.
And even like, look, I reallydon't even want to repeat it,
but Wally has a terriblestereotype line.
Oh, yeah.
I'm not going to.
Yeah.

SPEAKER_01 (01:00:42):
Not going to do it.

SPEAKER_00 (01:00:43):
So, yeah.
And then lastly, Popeye the dogas Dinky.

SPEAKER_01 (01:00:50):
Fun fact.
Fun fact time.
Chevy Chase adopted that dogafter the movie.

SPEAKER_00 (01:00:56):
Yeah.
Okay.
Yeah.
I love that.
Yeah.
Oh, I love that so much.
Wait.
How was that dog not already...

SPEAKER_01 (01:01:07):
No, that was my first question as well.
There's no answer to thatquestion.
All I can tell you is that headopted that dog.

SPEAKER_00 (01:01:16):
Okay, because I would highly suspect that I was
a trained dog to, on cue, beable to bite and do what it did.
So, interesting.

SPEAKER_01 (01:01:27):
Okay.
Maybe not.
Maybe...

SPEAKER_00 (01:01:30):
They just literally grabbed a dog from the shelter.
Maybe that's just

SPEAKER_01 (01:01:34):
what it did.

SPEAKER_00 (01:01:34):
Maybe.
I know they've done that before.
Actually, what were we watching?
We covered something for theshow where they literally pulled
a dog from a shelter becausethey...

SPEAKER_01 (01:01:45):
Maybe Dinky was a pro and was trained to do all
this, but maybe Dinky was readyto retire.

SPEAKER_00 (01:01:49):
Maybe.
And

SPEAKER_01 (01:01:51):
Chevy

SPEAKER_00 (01:01:51):
Chase gave him that home.
God, I would...
Anyway.
Okay.
Look, I love adoption stories.
Film synopsis.

SPEAKER_01 (01:02:01):
What do you got?

SPEAKER_00 (01:02:02):
The Griswold family's cross-country drive to
the Wally World theme parkproves to be much more arduous
than they ever anticipated.
Yeah.

SPEAKER_01 (01:02:14):
I mean, if they had included something about like
wild madcap misadventures, Iwould have accepted that too.

SPEAKER_00 (01:02:21):
Sure.
Yeah.
Very accurate.
Yeah.
Fine.
Yeah.
I'm fine with it.
Good one.

SPEAKER_01 (01:02:26):
Thumbs up.
No notes.

UNKNOWN (01:02:29):
Yeah.

SPEAKER_00 (01:02:30):
Yeah, you know, it's interesting because, like, now
that I'm thinking about it withthe franchise, the first two
films are very much themtraveling from place to place,
and that's how a lot of thecomedy comes about is kind of
them brushing up against these,like, absurd locales or
scenarios that they findthemselves in, whereas–

(01:02:51):
Christmas Vacation Vegas,they're pretty static in one
location.
And it's just the things thathappen to them while they are
there.
But then they kind of go back, Ithink.
Although I saw it, but I haven'tseen it since the first time I
saw it.
Vacation with just Ed Helms, Ithink, goes back to kind of more
of the original concept.
I think so.
In terms of travel, actualtravel.

(01:03:12):
The

SPEAKER_01 (01:03:12):
first studio that they were shopping it to felt
like, well, it's too episodic.
And they were like, yeah, butit's a road trip.
So, of course.

SPEAKER_00 (01:03:22):
Both are right.

SPEAKER_01 (01:03:23):
Yeah.

SPEAKER_00 (01:03:23):
Both are right.
It is an interesting film inthat regard because, yeah, it's
a bunch of little bits that arestrung together.

SPEAKER_01 (01:03:31):
Last fun fact.
Yes, that was them on the rides.
And yes, they had to do it overand over again.
And yes, Beverly D'Angelo, Ithink, was literally passed out
afterwards because they were allgetting sick from going on the
rides over and over again.

SPEAKER_00 (01:03:47):
Really?
I would have loved it.

SPEAKER_01 (01:03:48):
Like, Rusty...
michael anthony hall was likelegitimately terrified on some
of them

SPEAKER_00 (01:03:55):
like really yeah they did he did a great job
acting because he looked like heenjoyed every second of it

SPEAKER_01 (01:04:01):
but the uh the one the it's it's in real life
called the revolution that wasthat was just the revolution
ride which at the time was thefirst to have like that um loop
in it

SPEAKER_00 (01:04:11):
oh really but

SPEAKER_01 (01:04:12):
they've definitely like retrofitted that with more
like over the shoulder like adifferent kind of harness
because you wouldn't have justlike a lap restraint

SPEAKER_00 (01:04:20):
for that now no no no no i mean i Yeah.
Yeah.

(01:04:41):
I don't think my physical bodytolerates them as well as it
used to.
It

SPEAKER_01 (01:04:46):
has been a very long time since I've been to Six
Flags.
But I was there when they hadwhat was at the time a new
coaster called Goliath, whichhas this insane drop.
And then...
kind of a couple turns that pullenough Gs that you will start
blacking out.
And if I blacked out then, Idon't know if I'd make

SPEAKER_00 (01:05:05):
it.
I mean, my whole thing growingup outside of Chicago was Great
America.
Also Six

SPEAKER_01 (01:05:10):
Flags.

SPEAKER_00 (01:05:11):
And the big ride at that one was called like the
Eagle.

SPEAKER_01 (01:05:16):
Okay.

SPEAKER_00 (01:05:17):
Super rickety, like all wood.
I think at one point it was likeriddled with termites.
Perfect.
But they had that.
That was the big ride.
But yeah, I mean, I've alwaysreally enjoyed roller coasters.
I think, what's the one wherelike, was it a, now I'm
beginning to mix up like myamusement parks, but like
there's one where it's like kindof just a loop-de-loop and you

(01:05:38):
just keep going back in this

SPEAKER_01 (01:05:40):
loop-de-loop.
That is featured at Knott'sBerry Farm and that's called
Montezuma's Revenge.

SPEAKER_00 (01:05:44):
It's got to be another place because I've
actually never been to Knott'sBerry.

SPEAKER_01 (01:05:47):
That's the one at Knott's Berry Farm, though.
You take off, do a loop, andthen you go through the whole
thing backwards.

SPEAKER_00 (01:05:52):
Yes, exactly.
They have that in a coupledifferent places because that
one, after a while, you're like,oh, my God, enough.
But they're fun.
I mean, the last roller coasterwe were on was...
What's the other half of Disney?

SPEAKER_01 (01:06:09):
Oh, California

SPEAKER_00 (01:06:10):
Adventure.
There you go.
Yeah.
The Incredibles ride.

SPEAKER_01 (01:06:13):
That's decent.
It's

SPEAKER_00 (01:06:14):
pretty decent.
Yeah.
No, I like it a lot.
Yeah.
So watching this film again.
Sure.
Yeah.

SPEAKER_01 (01:06:22):
I'll do it.
Yeah.

SPEAKER_00 (01:06:23):
Definitely.
I mean, I think we've said it acouple of times now lately.
Not a movie I need to just sitdown and watch.
Could have it in the backgrounddoing whatever, I guess.
It

SPEAKER_01 (01:06:34):
is a movie that's on quite a bit.
It just happens to be on if youhave any kind of cable
subscription whatsoever.
Or if you just want to searchfor it, you can try.
We didn't find it on anything.

SPEAKER_00 (01:06:44):
Although I will say that I think probably...
film for film, ChristmasVacation is the one that gets
the most airtime nowadays.
Even for a very limited amountof time, it's on constantly at
the holidays.
It

SPEAKER_01 (01:07:00):
is.
I'd honestly rather watch thisthan Christmas.
Christmas is...
I don't know how I think abouteuropean vacation i don't really
watch it because it's just kindof annoying in parts

SPEAKER_00 (01:07:13):
i mean we'll probably cover at some point i
love the fact that i'm prettysure amy heckerling directs it
so it's like okay femaledirected but it's it's my least
favorite by a long shot yeah umand

SPEAKER_01 (01:07:24):
maybe i've just been like overexposed to christmas
vacation at this point it's juston

SPEAKER_00 (01:07:29):
yeah i think that's probably what it is it's just
like saturation yeah that filmso it's Call to action.
Actually, okay, so this leadsright into it.
I'd love to know what people'sfavorite vacation movie is.
Oh, yeah.
And why.
I was going to say, what's yourfavorite roller coaster?
That's fun, too.
Yeah.
Or just amusement park.

(01:07:50):
Are all Six Flags affiliatedwith Looney Tunes?

SPEAKER_01 (01:07:56):
Oh, jeez.
I don't know.
You know, they probably are, butI've only been to the Magic
Mountain one, Valencia.

SPEAKER_00 (01:08:02):
And Great America was very much affiliated with
Looney Tunes.
I

SPEAKER_01 (01:08:06):
mean, I heard that they just laid off a ton of
people, so that's not great.

SPEAKER_00 (01:08:11):
So beware if you decide to go on these roller
coasters.
So

SPEAKER_01 (01:08:13):
it might be like the movie where there's just no one
there and you're setting it upyourself.

SPEAKER_00 (01:08:16):
Yeah, I was like, no way would that ever happen.
Actually, now that we're intosummertime, I've been seeing
around town local carnivals,never going on a carnival ride
again.
Look,

SPEAKER_01 (01:08:27):
I'm not going to...
Ride a carnival ride that's onVan Nuys Boulevard blocked out
in the middle of summer where

SPEAKER_00 (01:08:36):
it's like...
Or Ventura.
There's one on Ventura.
Maybe it's gone already.
I didn't see it this morning.
But yeah, not doing it.
The one thing I might do is theone where you're stuck to the
wall.
Oh, the

SPEAKER_01 (01:08:47):
Gravitron?

SPEAKER_00 (01:08:47):
Yeah.
I don't know why that feels alittle bit safer, but I'm not
doing anything else.
I don't

SPEAKER_01 (01:08:54):
know if it's safer.
It's essentially climbing into agiant...
drum from a washing machine orsomething and just going on spin
cycle.

SPEAKER_00 (01:09:02):
Yeah, but it is hilarious.
So if you want to get in touchwith us, we'd love to answer
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We'd love to hear from you.
You can reach out throughFacebook, Instagram, or Blue
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SPEAKER_01 (01:09:20):
Sneak

SPEAKER_00 (01:09:20):
peek!

SPEAKER_01 (01:09:21):
What do we got?

SPEAKER_00 (01:09:23):
Well, this is super interesting.
We have gotten recommendationsbefore.
But I've never had arecommendation.
And now look, to be fair, thiswasn't put forth as like, oh,
you should do this for thepodcast.
It was just like, you shouldwatch this movie.

SPEAKER_02 (01:09:36):
Yeah.

SPEAKER_00 (01:09:37):
And it was from a co-worker.
Yeah.
Actually, my boss's boss.
Wow.
Yeah.
So

SPEAKER_01 (01:09:44):
basically, it's a requirement.

SPEAKER_00 (01:09:45):
It's a mandate.

SPEAKER_01 (01:09:46):
Yeah.

SPEAKER_00 (01:09:48):
No, but here's the thing.
It's a film that I know of, butI know that it exists.
I know nothing about the movie,and I only know the star.
That's all I know, too.
And what is that movie?
Sorry, I totally...
What is that movie?

SPEAKER_01 (01:10:04):
It is Thief starring James Caan.

SPEAKER_00 (01:10:08):
Cracked.

SPEAKER_01 (01:10:08):
Yeah.

SPEAKER_00 (01:10:09):
Yeah.
No, I'm super excited because,like, look, I know James Caan in
two very different ways.

SPEAKER_01 (01:10:14):
Elf.

SPEAKER_00 (01:10:15):
Cracked.

SPEAKER_01 (01:10:17):
That's all I got.
Oh, Misery.
Misery.

SPEAKER_00 (01:10:19):
No.

SPEAKER_01 (01:10:20):
Okay.

SPEAKER_00 (01:10:20):
No.

SPEAKER_01 (01:10:21):
Those are two very different ways, though.

SPEAKER_00 (01:10:22):
They are, so it does qualify.
But no, what do you think I knowhim from?
I

SPEAKER_01 (01:10:27):
don't know.
I just said the two things thatI know.
Oh,

SPEAKER_00 (01:10:30):
oh, oh.
I'm tilting my head at you rightnow.

SPEAKER_01 (01:10:35):
Sunny from The

SPEAKER_00 (01:10:36):
Godfather.
Yes, yes, yes.
Yeah.
So- I really don't know him welloutside of those roles.
And I'm super excited to see himin this.

SPEAKER_01 (01:10:46):
Yeah.

SPEAKER_00 (01:10:46):
So that is coming up on deck.
In the meantime, thank you somuch for taking the time to tune
in to the show.
We really appreciate it.
Lots of options as always.
I think every day, just morepodcasts coming out.
So thank you for taking the timeto hang with us, and we will
talk to you again in two weeks'time.

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Oh, I totally forgot.
Oh, what's happening?
I totally forgot, because wenever do this.
People have already left,though.
I know, I know, but I'm going tostill do it.
Okay.
It's our halfway through theseason anniversary.
Yes, it is.
Yes, we are officially halfwaythrough season six.

UNKNOWN (01:11:25):
Okay.

SPEAKER_00 (01:11:25):
And I only ever do this midway through and at the
end of the season.
Oh, yeah.
This is when

SPEAKER_01 (01:11:31):
we start our pledge drive, right?

SPEAKER_00 (01:11:33):
Exactly.
This is when we say, if you wantto listen to us on Patreon.
No.

SPEAKER_01 (01:11:37):
For the avoidance of doubt, we do not have

SPEAKER_00 (01:11:40):
a Patreon.
We don't have a Patreon.

SPEAKER_01 (01:11:41):
We never will.

SPEAKER_00 (01:11:42):
No, I don't think we will.
But anyway, but what I will sayis if you do enjoy listening to
this podcast and we reallyappreciate that you do tune in,
Give us a review.
Algorithms matter.
And we don't do it often becausewe just don't want to really be
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SPEAKER_01 (01:12:03):
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