May 3, 2025 • 32 mins
All UNIT agents report for our review of Doctor Who season 2, episode 4: Lucky Day! On the menu: Doctor lite episodes, Ruby’s return, the dangers of podcasts, UNIT spinoff potential, Mrs. Flood mysteries, Kate going too far, and more!
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(00:00) - Intro
(01:50) - General Thoughts On EP 4
(05:15) - Ruby Without The Doctor
(08:05) - Conrad & The Twist
(15:29) - UNIT Spin-Off Potential
(21:01) - Think Tank
(24:03) - Ending & Final Thoughts
(20:31) - Stand Out Scenes & Ending
(26:47) - Mrs. Flood & Final Thoughts
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If there's one thing that this Doctor Who episode has taught
me, it's that you can't trust podcasters.
Noah and their deep, dark agendafull of lies and conspiracies.
Spoilers. And murder.
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So anyway, watch slash. Listen to this episode with
caution is on a bite of We're talking about Doctor Who Season
2 Episode 4, Lucky Day, Yeah. Oh, we're halfway through the
season. Halfway through the season of
Lies. I'm Noah.
That's Derek. So we're on another Doctor Light
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episode. Will this compare to 73 yards?
Who can say us? We will say.
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Vinshuti's run of Doctor Who, and this episode specifically.
Yes, so let us officially take abite of Doctor Who Season 2
Episode 4 Lucky Day, written by Peter Mcteague and directed by
Peter Whore. The Vindicator anchors in 2007
where the Doctor and Belinda bump into a young Conrad Clark.
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Amazed by what he has seen, Conrad spends his life tracking
down the Doctor and eventually finds the one and only Ruby
Sunday. Conrad and Ruby grow close, but
what seems like a blossoming relationship is actually an evil
plot or Ruby. Or Ruby.
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What did you think overall? Oh, oh good I I think this is
episode is very good. I'm still I still question
having these types of episodes in such a short run of Doctor
Who. I like them.
Last season, 73 yards I thought was amazing.
It was one of my favorite episodes.
This one, I honestly think it's a very good episode of
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television. Pushed Ruby's story forward a
little more, even though we haven't really seen Ruby this
season. But also it makes me question
like, do we need the OR not not do we need them?
But with such a short run, I don't know.
It's more like, can we get to the story?
Like there's still so many questions that we have.
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And I'm curious if this just almost stops the momentum for
the season. Well, I think that.
So if you're comparing this to 73 yards, it's kind of like a
stand alone Ruby episode. I thought, personally, I thought
73 yards was more entertaining. It kind of had me more on the
edge of my seat. But I didn't think 73 yards
really did anything to progress the plot of that season
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necessarily. Whereas this one, if I think,
you know, they're doing what they're doing, like if I'm
correcting that thought, this isreally the point where things
start going bad and why the doctor and Melinda can't get
back to 2025. Yeah.
I mean, I will say this one, if we're going to compare the 73
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yards in this, 173 yards didn't really push the plot as much as
this one did, especially in the end because we have a new
villain and we have another mysterious figure kind of taking
a villain into the fold in some capacity.
So there is stuff that is setting up, I agree, but I don't
know, it's just more of like, ah, where's the Doctor?
You know, like, I mean, we can have episodes without it.
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But I will say if this is like asoft pilot for a UNIT episode or
if the Land in the Sea spin off series is going to be anything
like of this caliber, I'm very excited for that.
That is totally what it also felt like to me, like they were
testing a spin off series. And you know, it's always funny
when they do stuff like that 'cause they try and like sneak
it in. It's like when they try, when
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parents try to sneak vegetables into their kids meals.
It's like we're enjoying it, butwe know something's off.
Yeah, they're trying to do something else here.
It's not. As bad as when Stranger Things
try to do a spin off in the middle of their season.
Yeah, these kids with power. Yeah.
So overall, I really like this episode.
I think the twists, there was a few twists in here where
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genuinely I did not know that they were going to happen.
So that was a fun surprise. But I think the biggest thing
here is Ruby, right? I was so excited to have Belinda
and Ruby finally meet and interact.
Unfortunately, we didn't get that in this episode.
So that's my expectation. That was not met the thought on
the show. But I really can't wait for them
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to meet. I just can.
We just have like a third serieswith all three of them
traveling. I would love that so much.
That would be really cool. So Ruby had her solo episode
last season and now Ruby has a solo episode this season, but
Belinda doesn't seem like she like it doesn't seem like she's
going to get a solo episode. That to me seems unbalanced and
unfair. Well, I do think this season is
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still doing some weird parallelswith the first season.
Again, I don't know if that's intentional or not, but it is
interesting that we're seeing parallels again through the
season, specifically with Ruby Sunday.
I always find it really fascinating when we catch up
with companions after the Doctorhas left their lives.
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And you know, a lot of times in Doctor Who, the saddest thing
isn't necessarily when the companion dies, cause a lot of
times the companion doesn't necessarily die.
It's more the, the death of the friendship, which is just
equally as sad because we know we're not going to see these
people again. So when we do see them, like in
this case for Ruby, we can see how the time with the Doctor has
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changed them for the good or thebad.
And picking up with Ruby here and seeing how she almost feels
a little lost, but she has some PTSD.
But traveling with the Doctor with the world ending, she, I
think she said in this episode that, you know, she saw
everything turn to dust and she hasn't really processed that.
I think she's always still waiting to hear the TARDIS and
to be swept away again. Yeah, that's one of the, IT
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almost seems one of the dangerous things of being a
companion of the doctor is, well, first you might die, but
you go through a lot of trauma, and then he kind of says goodbye
to you and he keeps going on hisadventures and living that life,
and you're left to your own devices, basically.
And I think we really see that here with Sunday and I think
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with Sunday with Ruby Sunday, because something else that I
think we need to talk about withRuby is that she's constantly
being left by people, right? She has a obviously has an issue
of abandonment with her bio mother.
And granted, they've been reunited at this point, but that
was really her main thing throughout the whole first
season was trying to figure out who her mother is.
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And so she once again is being abandoned by someone she loves
and again, with really no way tocontact them.
And so being through wars, having lived an entire life and
73 yards and all the all these different things, it's really
left her kind of in shambles. And I think that's a very
realistic portrayal of someone who's gone through these things.
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I will say it was very nice to see Jerry and Carlo again and
Louise thrown into the mix now, which is just lovely to see
Ruby's extended family and immediate family of different
sorts kind of hang out together.I just, it's just so I don't
know. I didn't know how much I missed
them until I saw them, so I wishthey were more of a regular on
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this. That's why I really want just.
Ruby, can you come back? You were gone too quickly.
I need all of you back. Well I don't know, will she be
in the UNIT spin off if they do one?
Or you think she'll just jump back in the TARDIS?
I don't know, maybe I, I mean, we don't really know much about
the last two episodes of the season.
So I'm hoping that she will comethrough and she'll be with our
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current companion and Doctor. But it's really for us to see.
I think this episode was really fucked up and what it did.
So we meet Conrad, which we meethim in 2007 when he's a child.
We see that he his mother's an alcoholic and she hits him a
little bit. So he's going through his own
thing. But he runs into the Doctor in
Belinda and he's just fascinatedby that, right?
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He kind of becomes maybe obsessed with it.
Maybe it's the thing that could take him away from his home
situation. But he never saw the Doctor
again. And I think seeing these two
people, Conrad and Ruby, Ruby went with the Doctor and we see
the side effects of that. Conrad never got to go with the
Doctor and we see the side effects of that.
So I think it's a interesting kind of character study with
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both of them on, like how one side can go way far this way and
the other one needs some healingand some time to themselves and
not waiting to hear that TARDIS noise.
Yeah, it's so interesting, the effect that the doctor has on
people. It's like whether you're with
him or you're not with him, you become obsessed with him and
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what he can do. Hence this podcast.
And here we are, another two victims of the doctor.
I think for Conrad, he was looking for an escape.
He was looking for a way to get out of the life that he was
living. And unfortunately, he was left
wanting. And so he really dedicates his
life to trying to figure out what's going on, but somehow
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that turns into him not believing in the doctor or not
thinking it's true. And so it's like it takes a
weird turn for Conrad. Yeah, so the biggest twist in
this episode is finding out thatConrad, while being obsessed and
kind of luring Ruby in with the photo that he took of them when
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the doctor and Ruby were doing their adventures, and then
turning in pretty much doing this elaborate prank on UNIT and
Ruby and just. I mean, they were dating for
weeks. And like Ruby, you hear from
like her whole family unit, like, oh, you haven't had a
boyfriend. Finally you have somebody else
and everything. They were so happy for her.
And then for that to be completely shattered and it was
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a lie is devastating. But I think it shows that
Conrad, you know, he was abandoned probably multiple
times. And he maybe just felt jealous
and slighted by the doctor. Like, why Ruby?
Why did Ruby get to go do that? Why is Belinda getting to do
that? Why can't I do that?
What made me not so special, Youknow, the doctor spent time to
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give him a A50P and it was like,it's your lucky day.
But then he got smacked by his mother and he left him.
So like, is it really his lucky day?
It's one of those things as simple as, I don't know, he just
felt wronged even though he really wasn't wronged and he
felt like he was entitled to more that he got.
I mean, So what we're saying is,is that he represents straight
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white men on this Earth, on thisplanet.
Yeah. And just people that think like
they know that they're lying, they know that they're lying,
it's just relentless noise and that's all that they are.
And even when he's literally living through these horrors and
these science fiction, you know,tales come to life, he's still
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spewing out lies and still saying it's make up.
And so he's a frustrating character to watch, obviously
because of what he does to Ruby,but then how he even progresses
and presents himself throughout the rest of the episode, I mean.
Also, to convince all your friends to do this is just wild.
I mean, maybe they're not even friends.
It's just this think tank bullshit of an organization.
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It's very like Joe Rogan ask like, you know, just a weird
cult following of people that I think they know that they're
wrong, but they just they're loud and they want to just
oppress people. And I don't know, He said, I
think Conrad when they were recording, he said something
like he looked at Shirley and itwas like, look at her.
She's taking benefits. And it's like, are you kidding?
Like, I don't know. I I think the whole twist and
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everything like that was just soshocking that I don't know.
I didn't expect them to go this.Far at first I thought it was
just a punked type show and so like I was like, oh that was
really evil. But then as he kept talking and
they brought all the cameras andthey were going live and they
were recording them, it was likekind of a shock to me.
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And I was trying to just like, wrap my mind around everything
that was going on. He just was like, weaponizing
it. Yeah.
And it became really just gross.And I know, exploitative.
Yeah, I I feel so bad for Ruby just seeing the look on.
Also, can we give it up for Billy Gibson?
I mean, jeez Louise. Like, so fantastic, just the
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look in her face and how it justprogressively gets more
devastated and just of course, of course this happened to me.
Especially when she it seems like she's opened up her open
herself up to someone finally. And you know, that point that
you made about Cherry and Carla of them being so excited because
from the outside, they can see that she's stuck, that Ruby is
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not herself and she's trying to find herself.
And so this seems like a moment for them to be like, oh, you're
you're trying something new. You're getting out of your shell
again. We can see a little bit of
yourself. And you know, there's even a
part when he kind of is like throwing everything in her face
once everything is revealed. And he's like, oh, I had to
listen to you whine and I had tolisten to your stupid keyboard
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songs. And it's almost these things of
she's opening up to someone. And maybe she's finally
expressing herself again throughmusic, and he's throwing that in
her face as if those are bad things.
He literally said everything that who she is is annoying.
That's so that's so devastating.That's so devastating.
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It's one of those things where, I think, you know, she got
infatuated by him, obviously, and she was starting to fall for
him, which everything we saw. OK, yeah, that makes sense.
There was a meet queue everything.
I think her going on that podcast was very much like, this
is a way for me to talk about the doctor because I love the
doctor and is a little obsessed,right?
And she's just waiting for that adventure again.
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But to have to finally have thisother person, they, her family
unit says, like, oh, she hasn't talked to other doctor in, like,
weeks. And so she's finally being able
to be herself. And then she's told again that,
no, I what whoever you are, I don't want it.
Yeah. It's not worthy of my time.
And that's all she felt with hermother abandoning her.
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It's so sad. It's so like, can she catch a
break? It, it doesn't seem like it,
right? And it seems so unfair.
And so, you know, I, I really hope that we get to see Ruby
progress and come into her own more.
I think that would be unfair to us as the viewer and unfair to
the character to kind of just leave her squandering.
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And I, and I mean, at the end ofthe episode, she does regain
some of the power, but there's no closure for her in any of
this. I think she says to Kate
something like she acknowledges it.
She's like, I think I need some time for me, like outside of the
Doctor and outside of all of this.
I don't know how long she's going to get with that because
we were literally I would say 2 episodes away from like the two
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parter finale. So good luck Ruby.
I hope you can get some time in there.
Again, I am going to harp on thefact that I believe the Doctor
Who universe needs good therapists.
UNIT needs to take some of theirmoney out of crazy guns and they
would need to put it into a mental health department.
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I think they should, yeah. Yeah.
Where's Rose? Where's Rose at?
And I didn't, you know, I was, Iwas listening for Rose.
She Kate says something like Melis in Sydney, which tracking
something. I don't know.
But it was like they were letting us know that Mel's still
around. Oh, maybe.
So they're they are doing like aspin off show.
I believe it's still happening. I haven't heard much about it,
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the land and the sea. So I'm curious if she's going to
be in some capacity involved with that.
I don't know. We'll see.
Maybe that's why, yeah. They mentioned her and so kind
of continuing in just this little bit of the spin off
conversation, I really feel likethey planted some interesting
seeds here, especially like the romance between Kate and I think
it's Captain Abraham. So it's.
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Like I call him Captain Arms andFace.
Guard Oh yeah, he's a, he's a real hottie.
But it was like they were reallykind of putting some plot points
into place. You know, we even have Shirley
Anne Bingham come back. So it's like, is this going to
be our unit crew for the spin off?
I don't know. I mean, I always worry about
spin offs, right? I think Torchwood had some
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success with being a spin off from Doctor Who.
I worry in this current state oflike streamers and stuff like
that on the, I don't know, willingness and the studios
trusting that it will happen because IA lot of these studios
tend to be like, oh, in the first 3 episodes of the first
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season, it didn't capture his viewership.
Now we need to pull the plug. When in reality, I think if it's
not like a huge like sometimes it takes a minute for people to
discover things and for it to find its audience.
I don't this is like a really weird example, but Gilmore
Girls, while it was really popular when it was on, it got
so extremely popular when it went on Netflix.
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So I think that's a weird example, but I just think it
takes time for like an audience to find something.
Yeah, but unfortunately it's just not how it works now.
Right. And Doctor?
Who it's always now it's just the fanbase is weird.
Like people are always rooting for it to end for some weird
reason, and then people always want it to continue.
So I don't know, it's weird, butI, I, I always want more Doctor
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Who. I don't care.
Like I could want something where it's literally like in
Donna's garden. Just talking about what's
happening in the world outside of Doctor Who.
This if this UNIT spin off, it really seems like it would be
sort of like an Agents of SHIELDtype thing, which is hard
because I think when you're watching Doctor Who, you're
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looking for the time travel, you're looking for the creatures
you're looking for this sort of silliness every so often with
this cast of characters that they have here, it feels like it
would be a very serious show. Yeah, I feel it could be
serious. It could be, yeah.
It would be very like political,almost like a political
thriller. It could be supernaturally.
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You know, the way that they dealt with the shriek in this
episode I kind of liked because it showed that they had a
containment unit for all of these different types of
entities and creatures and stufflike that.
So I think it could be interesting.
I don't I don't know how much legs it has that would like they
would almost have to have crossovers and really spill into
each other to not make people watch it but like why?
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Why does this have to exist? Right, Yeah, and or, or some
while I like Kate and Cap the captain, I feel like we need a
stronger, I don't know, character at the lead.
Then Kate. How dare you.
Kate is a legend. Sorry.
I think Kate would be No I I agree.
I think now her status is more like she comes in when shit is
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bad and she's the person that you don't want to piss off.
And she's also that legacy character.
So she's definitely there. But I agree they would have to
almost fill it out. Almost, but I don't.
I like having like headquartery type shows like that can tend to
get a little repetitious. So I would be very cautious of
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that. I I think in Ruby has said
something when she's talking to Conrad about stuff and she's
like, well, aliens exist. We all know that when she's on
the show. So it's like, yeah, the the
world does know aliens exist. So it's interesting to see how
the world kind of perceives the Doctor Who universe.
Well if if anyone needs it's this spin off.
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It's Ruby, that's for sure. I would watch it all of them.
But so my question is, is like, I feel like whenever I watch
shows like this, I'm always wondering how much this the
general public know, right? And it's so it's like the
general public, they know the doctor exists.
And they know that unit exists. Yes and no.
I, I think sometimes it does getconfusing with like timelines
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and how much they do know because we get so little of what
they know. But it's apparent that like it's
not a secret to talk about thesethings existing.
I just think it's a secret of what they can do because a big
thing in this episode, it's like, imagine if, like, you
know, other people got access tothat time window or even time
travel and stuff like that. It would be really bad.
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So I don't think that everybody knows about that, but they know
that there's stuff, there's things that exist.
And obviously that their tax dollars are going towards it.
Yeah, which God, I this is the Ilike having an episode like this
in this current like political climate is so stressful.
It's like because Oh yeah, before like I would I would love
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to be like this would never happen.
Like imagine if a government wasran like this.
It's literally happening right now.
Yeah. So we're living through the
apocalypse. What did you think of Think Tank
and all of them? I got it.
You know, it's so funny. You're like think tank, what
does it mean? But it's just one of those like
generally branded nonsense things that people latch onto.
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And so I mean, it made sense, right?
And taking kind of the truth andtwisting it for conspiracies
gain. You have a charismatic, good
looking guy at the head of it who spews enough lies with
enough passion and people are going to follow it.
Look, if Ariel could fall for him and Ruby can fall for him,
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who's to say we can't fall for? Him.
He didn't even sing in this episode.
I didn't sing. Yeah, I I think yeah, they they
made sense. They were very annoying.
But to villainize Unit in this episode and kind of put them as
the bad guys was a really interesting, I don't know, side
to be on, even though we're rooting for them and we know
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that they're not bad, right? It was just interesting to see
the world and media kind of turnon them.
And there's even the comment of,you know, he's Conrad is playing
sort of like this every man, this almost pauper, this look
how my life has been ruined. And then Kate's like or, or
someone at unit. It's like he has 80,000 paid
subscribers. He's super rich, like he's lying
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about his mother. And so it's like, you know, he's
capitalizing on the kind of foolishness of the general
public. I there's this whole thing, I
don't know, I think there's somepeople that keep getting access
and, and things that shouldn't get it and it's just constantly
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happening and it's very frustrating.
There's a this is like completely sideways, but it goes
along with the same point. There's a, there's a recent
thing coming out about the Oscarvoters, right?
And that, oh, some of the Oscar voters would just press play
because they need to see that they watched it but wouldn't
actually watch it. And so it's like, why are people
like that continuing to get access when it's like there's
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people that deserve access or just fighting get their stuff
seen, but these people are just entitled to it.
And it's kind of the same thing.You see all these like
thumbnails on YouTube of like Doctor Who Woke that all the
stuff. And it's like, why are those
things getting hundreds and thousands of views?
And people are paying them for this even though they're just
hate watching it? It's like, turn the channel on
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them, silence that noise. Like we need to just like, stop
it. Yeah, I, I, I don't understand
it either. And it's, I don't know it.
It's something to be said of like the squeaky gear gets the
oil. Someone yelling just foolishness
as loudly as possible seems to get more love and more views
than people you know having an intelligent conversation about a
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property. I mean, it's not even that it's
Yeah, I mean, listen to us, not them.
Yeah, it's sorry. That was like a weird soap boxy
moment. But I think this episode plays
into that, right? It plays into the just how much
people can get influenced just to jump on a bandwagon, which is
stupid. They they all know they're
lying. So let's talk about the ending
here. I did think it was a cool detail
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that Remember when the doctor first meets Belinda and he's
like, oh, your name is Melinda? I was told, like I was told
about you already. We find out that that's Conrad.
Conrad is the one that kind of dropped to that hand.
But so like the final showdown in UNIT, which I thought was
quite crazy because Kate almost went too far.
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Like she was, I don't know how far she was going to let that go
because she didn't give Ruby thething to shock the shriek.
Like how far was Kate going to let this go?
I wanted her to let it go all the way.
No, she can't stoop to that level though.
That's dangerous. I don't know.
And it was live streamed. And then they could have seen
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that, but then they would have said it was fake.
Whatever. I know.
But you know, when there's a character as infuriating as
Conrad, you want them to come totheir ultimate end because as we
see, because he didn't come to his ultimate end, now he's able
to create more trouble. And so I kind of wanted Kate.
I, I see how angry Kate was. I see how frustrated she was,
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you know, and it's that annoyingthing of like, well, when they
go low, we go high. It's like, well, sometimes we
want to go low too. No, Yeah.
I mean, I I don't even think it's about going low.
I just think it's about no, these are consequences, murder.
And you deserve to get eaten by a shriek.
Yeah, You were given the antidote.
I think you didn't take it. Yeah.
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Yeah. I this whole, I think the ending
was fine, right? I, I was worried that Kate was
going to go too far. I maybe there's going to be some
consequences with that later on.But what I really liked about
the end of this episode is afterConrad is has his arm reattached
with some technology, he's in his cell and the Doctor kind of
like, summons him into the TARDIS.
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I just love the idea of the Doctor always having tabs on his
companions whenever they get wronged.
So like, if somebody's really rude to them, does he do this?
He's like you don't ever. You hurt my friend.
Yeah, even like a nasty barista.Yeah, he'll he'll bring them
into the TARDIS and give them what for?
Absolutely. But this, Oh my, I think this is
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the first time we've really seenthe Anshuti like do the not dark
side, but the scary side of the Doctor.
It was hinted at a little bit inthe beginning of the season, but
his like full on, this is a Doctor's speech.
I love a Doctor's speech. All the Doctors incarnations of
the Doctors have their speech moments, and this was one of
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them for Anshuti. That's going to be like up
there. And I think that this moment is
really powerful on a number of levels, right?
We have this like white in cell guy and then we have this
Blackbeard Dr., you know, reallystanding in front of him and
giving him what for. And you know, you want Conrad to
listen. And I think Conrad is scared,
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but obviously not scared enough.No, he's not scared enough.
And I just the, the, some of thethings that the doctor says here
is just saying that like I fightfor everyday people that just
want to exist. And then you come in here with
this noise, this relentless noise, you're nothing.
You're ash in the wind, like, just completely, like, putting
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it in his face, like what you'redoing is not worth it.
And it's nothing. And it's like, I think it's
like, what is he saying here? He says something like, he's
like, I have all the time in theuniverse and energy to spend.
And I was like, yes, he does. Yeah.
Got him, got him, got him, got. Him, he's so good, but then to
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have Conrad just say I don't accept your reality is also just
so frustrating on like just a base level of like you can't
can't, you can't make up a reality.
But that's how easy it is. That's how easy it is.
You could literally show someonein black and white, you can be
the living person saying I exist, I'm real, I'm here and
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they go, I don't believe it. Oh.
My God. Welcome to our life.
God it's so infuriating. But to have the doctor go as
like dark as like, you're going to die in the cell at the age of
49 when your heart gives out in the same exact cell, lonely,
unloved. See, but us as foolish viewers,
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we think, well, he's going to bein that specific cell he's in,
but I think unfortunately he's not going to be in that.
I don't. Know he might, you never know,
maybe things get reversed and hegets put back in there.
But having Missus Flood come to Conrad and call herself the
governor, which I think that's just, which is calling herself
then and there, but her saying it's bigger isn't like it's
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bigger. Not bigger on the inside.
She says something in the inside, it's bigger.
She says it weirdly. But so does that mean that she's
been inside the TARDIS? It's I think that it's feeling
more and more to me like she is another spurned.
I just, I hope it's not. The set 'cause remember, in the
first season, the second it landed, she knew exactly what it
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was and she told Ruby to go for it.
The weird thing was is that she didn't recognize it at 1st and
then when we saw her again with it then she was like, you've
never seen a TARDIS Because whenshe first sees it she's like oh
what is this? OK, ultimate, ultimate
hypothesis. That's Ruby.
No, no, no, no. We've seen Ruby though, when
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she's older, she doesn't like anything like Missus Flood.
I I'm still on the side of maybeit's his child, you know, I, I,
it just kind of almost makes sense.
Like maybe it just took the TARDIS being close to like
reignite some of those memories.I don't know.
There's so many theories out there with Missus Flood, but why
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is she like gathering people that were beaten or scorned or I
don't know, the doctor is defeated, why is she gathering
them? Because they got a chip on their
shoulders, baby. They want to get revenge.
Yeah, there's a lot of hand. And and you know what, I, I hope
it's something like what we're talking about because I think I
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would be frustrated if it was like she's just another God
like, oh, I. Think we need to be prepared for
that though. Or just like she's a Time Lord,
you know, there's been theories out there that she might be like
certain Time Lord, which I'm notgoing to say if you don't want
to get spoiled, but I don't know, who knows?
Also, could she possibly be the master?
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There's too many theories. But I I really like that they're
going more and more with misses Flood in the season.
And we obviously can see that she can time travel in some sort
of way. So is she connected to the
TARDIS or what? Does she have her own TARDIS?
So I guess we'll see. But man, I will say I missed
Ruby. I I really did that, that scene
in the pub when that guy was like, who put you in charge?
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She's like, why don't you go getsome fresh air?
How about? That, yeah.
Oh, I missed her. And then her explaining to
Conrad how the shriek works and just that whole scene of the
lights flickering and getting dark.
So good, So so good. I I really like this episode.
I missed the doctor and I missedour story that we were on, but
it was a nice little pit stop. I miss Belinda, so I'm looking
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forward to this next episode with more Belinda and more
Doctor. I I'm curious if we're going to
see the rogue. I know this is sideways, but I'm
just trying to see like we have some strings that are kind of
hanging from their first season,and I'm just curious if we're
going to get some rogue stuff orif that's going to be like a
future, future thing. But when?
Yeah. When do all of our characters
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meet? We shall see.
OK, well so we have episode 5 next week.
Let us know what you thought of this episode, and if you thought
it was the Doctor's lucky day, it really wasn't Ruby's.
I think it was just Conrad's. I think just the bad person got
the lucky day every time. That's always the way it works.
All right, we're going to go crynow.
If there's one thing that this Doctor Who episode has taught
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Episode 4 Lucky Day, written by Peter Mcteague and directed by
Peter Whore. The Vindicator anchors in 2007
where the Doctor and Belinda bump into a young Conrad Clark.
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Amazed by what he has seen, Conrad spends his life tracking
down the Doctor and eventually finds the one and only Ruby
Sunday. Conrad and Ruby grow close, but
what seems like a blossoming relationship is actually an evil
plot or Ruby. Or Ruby.
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What did you think overall? Oh, oh good I I think this is
episode is very good. I'm still I still question
having these types of episodes in such a short run of Doctor
Who. I like them.
Last season, 73 yards I thought was amazing.
It was one of my favorite episodes.
This one, I honestly think it's a very good episode of
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television. Pushed Ruby's story forward a
little more, even though we haven't really seen Ruby this
season. But also it makes me question
like, do we need the OR not not do we need them?
But with such a short run, I don't know.
It's more like, can we get to the story?
Like there's still so many questions that we have.
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And I'm curious if this just almost stops the momentum for
the season. Well, I think that.
So if you're comparing this to 73 yards, it's kind of like a
stand alone Ruby episode. I thought, personally, I thought
73 yards was more entertaining. It kind of had me more on the
edge of my seat. But I didn't think 73 yards
really did anything to progress the plot of that season
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necessarily. Whereas this one, if I think,
you know, they're doing what they're doing, like if I'm
correcting that thought, this isreally the point where things
start going bad and why the doctor and Melinda can't get
back to 2025. Yeah.
I mean, I will say this one, if we're going to compare the 73
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yards in this, 173 yards didn't really push the plot as much as
this one did, especially in the end because we have a new
villain and we have another mysterious figure kind of taking
a villain into the fold in some capacity.
So there is stuff that is setting up, I agree, but I don't
know, it's just more of like, ah, where's the Doctor?
You know, like, I mean, we can have episodes without it.
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But I will say if this is like asoft pilot for a UNIT episode or
if the Land in the Sea spin off series is going to be anything
like of this caliber, I'm very excited for that.
That is totally what it also felt like to me, like they were
testing a spin off series. And you know, it's always funny
when they do stuff like that 'cause they try and like sneak
it in. It's like when they try, when
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parents try to sneak vegetables into their kids meals.
It's like we're enjoying it, butwe know something's off.
Yeah, they're trying to do something else here.
It's not. As bad as when Stranger Things
try to do a spin off in the middle of their season.
Yeah, these kids with power. Yeah.
So overall, I really like this episode.
I think the twists, there was a few twists in here where
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genuinely I did not know that they were going to happen.
So that was a fun surprise. But I think the biggest thing
here is Ruby, right? I was so excited to have Belinda
and Ruby finally meet and interact.
Unfortunately, we didn't get that in this episode.
So that's my expectation. That was not met the thought on
the show. But I really can't wait for them
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to meet. I just can.
We just have like a third serieswith all three of them
traveling. I would love that so much.
That would be really cool. So Ruby had her solo episode
last season and now Ruby has a solo episode this season, but
Belinda doesn't seem like she like it doesn't seem like she's
going to get a solo episode. That to me seems unbalanced and
unfair. Well, I do think this season is
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still doing some weird parallelswith the first season.
Again, I don't know if that's intentional or not, but it is
interesting that we're seeing parallels again through the
season, specifically with Ruby Sunday.
I always find it really fascinating when we catch up
with companions after the Doctorhas left their lives.
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And you know, a lot of times in Doctor Who, the saddest thing
isn't necessarily when the companion dies, cause a lot of
times the companion doesn't necessarily die.
It's more the, the death of the friendship, which is just
equally as sad because we know we're not going to see these
people again. So when we do see them, like in
this case for Ruby, we can see how the time with the Doctor has
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changed them for the good or thebad.
And picking up with Ruby here and seeing how she almost feels
a little lost, but she has some PTSD.
But traveling with the Doctor with the world ending, she, I
think she said in this episode that, you know, she saw
everything turn to dust and she hasn't really processed that.
I think she's always still waiting to hear the TARDIS and
to be swept away again. Yeah, that's one of the, IT
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almost seems one of the dangerous things of being a
companion of the doctor is, well, first you might die, but
you go through a lot of trauma, and then he kind of says goodbye
to you and he keeps going on hisadventures and living that life,
and you're left to your own devices, basically.
And I think we really see that here with Sunday and I think
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with Sunday with Ruby Sunday, because something else that I
think we need to talk about withRuby is that she's constantly
being left by people, right? She has a obviously has an issue
of abandonment with her bio mother.
And granted, they've been reunited at this point, but that
was really her main thing throughout the whole first
season was trying to figure out who her mother is.
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And so she once again is being abandoned by someone she loves
and again, with really no way tocontact them.
And so being through wars, having lived an entire life and
73 yards and all the all these different things, it's really
left her kind of in shambles. And I think that's a very
realistic portrayal of someone who's gone through these things.
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I will say it was very nice to see Jerry and Carlo again and
Louise thrown into the mix now, which is just lovely to see
Ruby's extended family and immediate family of different
sorts kind of hang out together.I just, it's just so I don't
know. I didn't know how much I missed
them until I saw them, so I wishthey were more of a regular on
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this. That's why I really want just.
Ruby, can you come back? You were gone too quickly.
I need all of you back. Well I don't know, will she be
in the UNIT spin off if they do one?
Or you think she'll just jump back in the TARDIS?
I don't know, maybe I, I mean, we don't really know much about
the last two episodes of the season.
So I'm hoping that she will comethrough and she'll be with our
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current companion and Doctor. But it's really for us to see.
I think this episode was really fucked up and what it did.
So we meet Conrad, which we meethim in 2007 when he's a child.
We see that he his mother's an alcoholic and she hits him a
little bit. So he's going through his own
thing. But he runs into the Doctor in
Belinda and he's just fascinatedby that, right?
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He kind of becomes maybe obsessed with it.
Maybe it's the thing that could take him away from his home
situation. But he never saw the Doctor
again. And I think seeing these two
people, Conrad and Ruby, Ruby went with the Doctor and we see
the side effects of that. Conrad never got to go with the
Doctor and we see the side effects of that.
So I think it's a interesting kind of character study with
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both of them on, like how one side can go way far this way and
the other one needs some healingand some time to themselves and
not waiting to hear that TARDIS noise.
Yeah, it's so interesting, the effect that the doctor has on
people. It's like whether you're with
him or you're not with him, you become obsessed with him and
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what he can do. Hence this podcast.
And here we are, another two victims of the doctor.
I think for Conrad, he was looking for an escape.
He was looking for a way to get out of the life that he was
living. And unfortunately, he was left
wanting. And so he really dedicates his
life to trying to figure out what's going on, but somehow
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that turns into him not believing in the doctor or not
thinking it's true. And so it's like it takes a
weird turn for Conrad. Yeah, so the biggest twist in
this episode is finding out thatConrad, while being obsessed and
kind of luring Ruby in with the photo that he took of them when
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the doctor and Ruby were doing their adventures, and then
turning in pretty much doing this elaborate prank on UNIT and
Ruby and just. I mean, they were dating for
weeks. And like Ruby, you hear from
like her whole family unit, like, oh, you haven't had a
boyfriend. Finally you have somebody else
and everything. They were so happy for her.
And then for that to be completely shattered and it was
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a lie is devastating. But I think it shows that
Conrad, you know, he was abandoned probably multiple
times. And he maybe just felt jealous
and slighted by the doctor. Like, why Ruby?
Why did Ruby get to go do that? Why is Belinda getting to do
that? Why can't I do that?
What made me not so special, Youknow, the doctor spent time to
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give him a A50P and it was like,it's your lucky day.
But then he got smacked by his mother and he left him.
So like, is it really his lucky day?
It's one of those things as simple as, I don't know, he just
felt wronged even though he really wasn't wronged and he
felt like he was entitled to more that he got.
I mean, So what we're saying is,is that he represents straight
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white men on this Earth, on thisplanet.
Yeah. And just people that think like
they know that they're lying, they know that they're lying,
it's just relentless noise and that's all that they are.
And even when he's literally living through these horrors and
these science fiction, you know,tales come to life, he's still
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spewing out lies and still saying it's make up.
And so he's a frustrating character to watch, obviously
because of what he does to Ruby,but then how he even progresses
and presents himself throughout the rest of the episode, I mean.
Also, to convince all your friends to do this is just wild.
I mean, maybe they're not even friends.
It's just this think tank bullshit of an organization.
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It's very like Joe Rogan ask like, you know, just a weird
cult following of people that I think they know that they're
wrong, but they just they're loud and they want to just
oppress people. And I don't know, He said, I
think Conrad when they were recording, he said something
like he looked at Shirley and itwas like, look at her.
She's taking benefits. And it's like, are you kidding?
Like, I don't know. I I think the whole twist and
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everything like that was just soshocking that I don't know.
I didn't expect them to go this.Far at first I thought it was
just a punked type show and so like I was like, oh that was
really evil. But then as he kept talking and
they brought all the cameras andthey were going live and they
were recording them, it was likekind of a shock to me.
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And I was trying to just like, wrap my mind around everything
that was going on. He just was like, weaponizing
it. Yeah.
And it became really just gross.And I know, exploitative.
Yeah, I I feel so bad for Ruby just seeing the look on.
Also, can we give it up for Billy Gibson?
I mean, jeez Louise. Like, so fantastic, just the
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look in her face and how it justprogressively gets more
devastated and just of course, of course this happened to me.
Especially when she it seems like she's opened up her open
herself up to someone finally. And you know, that point that
you made about Cherry and Carla of them being so excited because
from the outside, they can see that she's stuck, that Ruby is
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not herself and she's trying to find herself.
And so this seems like a moment for them to be like, oh, you're
you're trying something new. You're getting out of your shell
again. We can see a little bit of
yourself. And you know, there's even a
part when he kind of is like throwing everything in her face
once everything is revealed. And he's like, oh, I had to
listen to you whine and I had tolisten to your stupid keyboard
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songs. And it's almost these things of
she's opening up to someone. And maybe she's finally
expressing herself again throughmusic, and he's throwing that in
her face as if those are bad things.
He literally said everything that who she is is annoying.
That's so that's so devastating.That's so devastating.
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It's one of those things where, I think, you know, she got
infatuated by him, obviously, and she was starting to fall for
him, which everything we saw. OK, yeah, that makes sense.
There was a meet queue everything.
I think her going on that podcast was very much like, this
is a way for me to talk about the doctor because I love the
doctor and is a little obsessed,right?
And she's just waiting for that adventure again.
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But to have to finally have thisother person, they, her family
unit says, like, oh, she hasn't talked to other doctor in, like,
weeks. And so she's finally being able
to be herself. And then she's told again that,
no, I what whoever you are, I don't want it.
Yeah. It's not worthy of my time.
And that's all she felt with hermother abandoning her.
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It's so sad. It's so like, can she catch a
break? It, it doesn't seem like it,
right? And it seems so unfair.
And so, you know, I, I really hope that we get to see Ruby
progress and come into her own more.
I think that would be unfair to us as the viewer and unfair to
the character to kind of just leave her squandering.
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And I, and I mean, at the end ofthe episode, she does regain
some of the power, but there's no closure for her in any of
this. I think she says to Kate
something like she acknowledges it.
She's like, I think I need some time for me, like outside of the
Doctor and outside of all of this.
I don't know how long she's going to get with that because
we were literally I would say 2 episodes away from like the two
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parter finale. So good luck Ruby.
I hope you can get some time in there.
Again, I am going to harp on thefact that I believe the Doctor
Who universe needs good therapists.
UNIT needs to take some of theirmoney out of crazy guns and they
would need to put it into a mental health department.
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I think they should, yeah. Yeah.
Where's Rose? Where's Rose at?
And I didn't, you know, I was, Iwas listening for Rose.
She Kate says something like Melis in Sydney, which tracking
something. I don't know.
But it was like they were letting us know that Mel's still
around. Oh, maybe.
So they're they are doing like aspin off show.
I believe it's still happening. I haven't heard much about it,
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the land and the sea. So I'm curious if she's going to
be in some capacity involved with that.
I don't know. We'll see.
Maybe that's why, yeah. They mentioned her and so kind
of continuing in just this little bit of the spin off
conversation, I really feel likethey planted some interesting
seeds here, especially like the romance between Kate and I think
it's Captain Abraham. So it's.
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Like I call him Captain Arms andFace.
Guard Oh yeah, he's a, he's a real hottie.
But it was like they were reallykind of putting some plot points
into place. You know, we even have Shirley
Anne Bingham come back. So it's like, is this going to
be our unit crew for the spin off?
I don't know. I mean, I always worry about
spin offs, right? I think Torchwood had some
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success with being a spin off from Doctor Who.
I worry in this current state oflike streamers and stuff like
that on the, I don't know, willingness and the studios
trusting that it will happen because IA lot of these studios
tend to be like, oh, in the first 3 episodes of the first
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season, it didn't capture his viewership.
Now we need to pull the plug. When in reality, I think if it's
not like a huge like sometimes it takes a minute for people to
discover things and for it to find its audience.
I don't this is like a really weird example, but Gilmore
Girls, while it was really popular when it was on, it got
so extremely popular when it went on Netflix.
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So I think that's a weird example, but I just think it
takes time for like an audience to find something.
Yeah, but unfortunately it's just not how it works now.
Right. And Doctor?
Who it's always now it's just the fanbase is weird.
Like people are always rooting for it to end for some weird
reason, and then people always want it to continue.
So I don't know, it's weird, butI, I, I always want more Doctor
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Who. I don't care.
Like I could want something where it's literally like in
Donna's garden. Just talking about what's
happening in the world outside of Doctor Who.
This if this UNIT spin off, it really seems like it would be
sort of like an Agents of SHIELDtype thing, which is hard
because I think when you're watching Doctor Who, you're
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looking for the time travel, you're looking for the creatures
you're looking for this sort of silliness every so often with
this cast of characters that they have here, it feels like it
would be a very serious show. Yeah, I feel it could be
serious. It could be, yeah.
It would be very like political,almost like a political
thriller. It could be supernaturally.
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You know, the way that they dealt with the shriek in this
episode I kind of liked because it showed that they had a
containment unit for all of these different types of
entities and creatures and stufflike that.
So I think it could be interesting.
I don't I don't know how much legs it has that would like they
would almost have to have crossovers and really spill into
each other to not make people watch it but like why?
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Why does this have to exist? Right, Yeah, and or, or some
while I like Kate and Cap the captain, I feel like we need a
stronger, I don't know, character at the lead.
Then Kate. How dare you.
Kate is a legend. Sorry.
I think Kate would be No I I agree.
I think now her status is more like she comes in when shit is
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bad and she's the person that you don't want to piss off.
And she's also that legacy character.
So she's definitely there. But I agree they would have to
almost fill it out. Almost, but I don't.
I like having like headquartery type shows like that can tend to
get a little repetitious. So I would be very cautious of
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that. I I think in Ruby has said
something when she's talking to Conrad about stuff and she's
like, well, aliens exist. We all know that when she's on
the show. So it's like, yeah, the the
world does know aliens exist. So it's interesting to see how
the world kind of perceives the Doctor Who universe.
Well if if anyone needs it's this spin off.
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It's Ruby, that's for sure. I would watch it all of them.
But so my question is, is like, I feel like whenever I watch
shows like this, I'm always wondering how much this the
general public know, right? And it's so it's like the
general public, they know the doctor exists.
And they know that unit exists. Yes and no.
I, I think sometimes it does getconfusing with like timelines
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and how much they do know because we get so little of what
they know. But it's apparent that like it's
not a secret to talk about thesethings existing.
I just think it's a secret of what they can do because a big
thing in this episode, it's like, imagine if, like, you
know, other people got access tothat time window or even time
travel and stuff like that. It would be really bad.
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So I don't think that everybody knows about that, but they know
that there's stuff, there's things that exist.
And obviously that their tax dollars are going towards it.
Yeah, which God, I this is the Ilike having an episode like this
in this current like political climate is so stressful.
It's like because Oh yeah, before like I would I would love
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to be like this would never happen.
Like imagine if a government wasran like this.
It's literally happening right now.
Yeah. So we're living through the
apocalypse. What did you think of Think Tank
and all of them? I got it.
You know, it's so funny. You're like think tank, what
does it mean? But it's just one of those like
generally branded nonsense things that people latch onto.
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And so I mean, it made sense, right?
And taking kind of the truth andtwisting it for conspiracies
gain. You have a charismatic, good
looking guy at the head of it who spews enough lies with
enough passion and people are going to follow it.
Look, if Ariel could fall for him and Ruby can fall for him,
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who's to say we can't fall for? Him.
He didn't even sing in this episode.
I didn't sing. Yeah, I I think yeah, they they
made sense. They were very annoying.
But to villainize Unit in this episode and kind of put them as
the bad guys was a really interesting, I don't know, side
to be on, even though we're rooting for them and we know
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that they're not bad, right? It was just interesting to see
the world and media kind of turnon them.
And there's even the comment of,you know, he's Conrad is playing
sort of like this every man, this almost pauper, this look
how my life has been ruined. And then Kate's like or, or
someone at unit. It's like he has 80,000 paid
subscribers. He's super rich, like he's lying
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about his mother. And so it's like, you know, he's
capitalizing on the kind of foolishness of the general
public. I there's this whole thing, I
don't know, I think there's somepeople that keep getting access
and, and things that shouldn't get it and it's just constantly
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happening and it's very frustrating.
There's a this is like completely sideways, but it goes
along with the same point. There's a, there's a recent
thing coming out about the Oscarvoters, right?
And that, oh, some of the Oscar voters would just press play
because they need to see that they watched it but wouldn't
actually watch it. And so it's like, why are people
like that continuing to get access when it's like there's
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people that deserve access or just fighting get their stuff
seen, but these people are just entitled to it.
And it's kind of the same thing.You see all these like
thumbnails on YouTube of like Doctor Who Woke that all the
stuff. And it's like, why are those
things getting hundreds and thousands of views?
And people are paying them for this even though they're just
hate watching it? It's like, turn the channel on
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them, silence that noise. Like we need to just like, stop
it. Yeah, I, I, I don't understand
it either. And it's, I don't know it.
It's something to be said of like the squeaky gear gets the
oil. Someone yelling just foolishness
as loudly as possible seems to get more love and more views
than people you know having an intelligent conversation about a
(23:45):
property. I mean, it's not even that it's
Yeah, I mean, listen to us, not them.
Yeah, it's sorry. That was like a weird soap boxy
moment. But I think this episode plays
into that, right? It plays into the just how much
people can get influenced just to jump on a bandwagon, which is
stupid. They they all know they're
lying. So let's talk about the ending
here. I did think it was a cool detail
(24:08):
that Remember when the doctor first meets Belinda and he's
like, oh, your name is Melinda? I was told, like I was told
about you already. We find out that that's Conrad.
Conrad is the one that kind of dropped to that hand.
But so like the final showdown in UNIT, which I thought was
quite crazy because Kate almost went too far.
(24:31):
Like she was, I don't know how far she was going to let that go
because she didn't give Ruby thething to shock the shriek.
Like how far was Kate going to let this go?
I wanted her to let it go all the way.
No, she can't stoop to that level though.
That's dangerous. I don't know.
And it was live streamed. And then they could have seen
(24:52):
that, but then they would have said it was fake.
Whatever. I know.
But you know, when there's a character as infuriating as
Conrad, you want them to come totheir ultimate end because as we
see, because he didn't come to his ultimate end, now he's able
to create more trouble. And so I kind of wanted Kate.
I, I see how angry Kate was. I see how frustrated she was,
(25:14):
you know, and it's that annoyingthing of like, well, when they
go low, we go high. It's like, well, sometimes we
want to go low too. No, Yeah.
I mean, I I don't even think it's about going low.
I just think it's about no, these are consequences, murder.
And you deserve to get eaten by a shriek.
Yeah, You were given the antidote.
I think you didn't take it. Yeah.
(25:37):
Yeah. I this whole, I think the ending
was fine, right? I, I was worried that Kate was
going to go too far. I maybe there's going to be some
consequences with that later on.But what I really liked about
the end of this episode is afterConrad is has his arm reattached
with some technology, he's in his cell and the Doctor kind of
like, summons him into the TARDIS.
(25:57):
I just love the idea of the Doctor always having tabs on his
companions whenever they get wronged.
So like, if somebody's really rude to them, does he do this?
He's like you don't ever. You hurt my friend.
Yeah, even like a nasty barista.Yeah, he'll he'll bring them
into the TARDIS and give them what for?
Absolutely. But this, Oh my, I think this is
(26:20):
the first time we've really seenthe Anshuti like do the not dark
side, but the scary side of the Doctor.
It was hinted at a little bit inthe beginning of the season, but
his like full on, this is a Doctor's speech.
I love a Doctor's speech. All the Doctors incarnations of
the Doctors have their speech moments, and this was one of
(26:42):
them for Anshuti. That's going to be like up
there. And I think that this moment is
really powerful on a number of levels, right?
We have this like white in cell guy and then we have this
Blackbeard Dr., you know, reallystanding in front of him and
giving him what for. And you know, you want Conrad to
listen. And I think Conrad is scared,
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but obviously not scared enough.No, he's not scared enough.
And I just the, the, some of thethings that the doctor says here
is just saying that like I fightfor everyday people that just
want to exist. And then you come in here with
this noise, this relentless noise, you're nothing.
You're ash in the wind, like, just completely, like, putting
(27:27):
it in his face, like what you'redoing is not worth it.
And it's nothing. And it's like, I think it's
like, what is he saying here? He says something like, he's
like, I have all the time in theuniverse and energy to spend.
And I was like, yes, he does. Yeah.
Got him, got him, got him, got. Him, he's so good, but then to
(27:47):
have Conrad just say I don't accept your reality is also just
so frustrating on like just a base level of like you can't
can't, you can't make up a reality.
But that's how easy it is. That's how easy it is.
You could literally show someonein black and white, you can be
the living person saying I exist, I'm real, I'm here and
(28:11):
they go, I don't believe it. Oh.
My God. Welcome to our life.
God it's so infuriating. But to have the doctor go as
like dark as like, you're going to die in the cell at the age of
49 when your heart gives out in the same exact cell, lonely,
unloved. See, but us as foolish viewers,
(28:31):
we think, well, he's going to bein that specific cell he's in,
but I think unfortunately he's not going to be in that.
I don't. Know he might, you never know,
maybe things get reversed and hegets put back in there.
But having Missus Flood come to Conrad and call herself the
governor, which I think that's just, which is calling herself
then and there, but her saying it's bigger isn't like it's
(28:56):
bigger. Not bigger on the inside.
She says something in the inside, it's bigger.
She says it weirdly. But so does that mean that she's
been inside the TARDIS? It's I think that it's feeling
more and more to me like she is another spurned.
I just, I hope it's not. The set 'cause remember, in the
first season, the second it landed, she knew exactly what it
(29:17):
was and she told Ruby to go for it.
The weird thing was is that she didn't recognize it at 1st and
then when we saw her again with it then she was like, you've
never seen a TARDIS Because whenshe first sees it she's like oh
what is this? OK, ultimate, ultimate
hypothesis. That's Ruby.
No, no, no, no. We've seen Ruby though, when
(29:39):
she's older, she doesn't like anything like Missus Flood.
I I'm still on the side of maybeit's his child, you know, I, I,
it just kind of almost makes sense.
Like maybe it just took the TARDIS being close to like
reignite some of those memories.I don't know.
There's so many theories out there with Missus Flood, but why
(30:00):
is she like gathering people that were beaten or scorned or I
don't know, the doctor is defeated, why is she gathering
them? Because they got a chip on their
shoulders, baby. They want to get revenge.
Yeah, there's a lot of hand. And and you know what, I, I hope
it's something like what we're talking about because I think I
(30:22):
would be frustrated if it was like she's just another God
like, oh, I. Think we need to be prepared for
that though. Or just like she's a Time Lord,
you know, there's been theories out there that she might be like
certain Time Lord, which I'm notgoing to say if you don't want
to get spoiled, but I don't know, who knows?
Also, could she possibly be the master?
(30:44):
There's too many theories. But I I really like that they're
going more and more with misses Flood in the season.
And we obviously can see that she can time travel in some sort
of way. So is she connected to the
TARDIS or what? Does she have her own TARDIS?
So I guess we'll see. But man, I will say I missed
Ruby. I I really did that, that scene
in the pub when that guy was like, who put you in charge?
(31:07):
She's like, why don't you go getsome fresh air?
How about? That, yeah.
Oh, I missed her. And then her explaining to
Conrad how the shriek works and just that whole scene of the
lights flickering and getting dark.
So good, So so good. I I really like this episode.
I missed the doctor and I missedour story that we were on, but
it was a nice little pit stop. I miss Belinda, so I'm looking
(31:29):
forward to this next episode with more Belinda and more
Doctor. I I'm curious if we're going to
see the rogue. I know this is sideways, but I'm
just trying to see like we have some strings that are kind of
hanging from their first season,and I'm just curious if we're
going to get some rogue stuff orif that's going to be like a
future, future thing. But when?
Yeah. When do all of our characters
(31:49):
meet? We shall see.
OK, well so we have episode 5 next week.
Let us know what you thought of this episode, and if you thought
it was the Doctor's lucky day, it really wasn't Ruby's.
I think it was just Conrad's. I think just the bad person got
the lucky day every time. That's always the way it works.
All right, we're going to go crynow.
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