July 11, 2025 • 29 mins
Look up! It's our review of James Gunn's SUPERMAN! On the menu: James Gunn’s first chapter for DC Studio Movies, Superman’s humor & heart, David Corenswet’s Clark Kent/Superman, Rachel Brosnahan’s Lois, why Lex Luthor is so evil, the best worst dog Krypto, who will the Justice Gang become, and more!
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(00:00) - Intro & Update
(02:18) - General Thoughts
(05:08) - Superman & David Corenswet
(08:18) - Rachel Brosnahan & Lois Lane
(11:03) - Guy Gardner, Mr. Terrific & Hawkgirl
(16:01) - Lex Luthor & Nicholas Hoult(23:29) - Krypto & Final Thoughts
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I know he's a Superman, but you know who's a good boy?
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Yeah, I didn't know where that was going.
It's just a pop. He's.
Always listening and thank you for listening to this episode of
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A Bite of I'm Derek. That's Noah.
And today we are talking about James Gunn's Superman.
Yes, Superman DCU has officiallystarted.
We have lots of thoughts. We are literally fresh from
seeing the movie. We saw a mirror like hour ago.
We have lots of thoughts. Before we get into it, make sure
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you're following comments. Are you excited for James Gunn
Superman? If you've seen it, what do you
think? Let us know down below in the
comments. If you're listening to this,
follow us leave a review. There's many ways that you can
consume this media here, so spoilers ahead for Superman as a
character and definitely James Gunn Superman.
Absolutely. All right, so let us officially
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take a bite of Superman. Written and directed by James
Gunn. Superman's place in the world is
questioned after he stops a war between two foreign nations.
Using these rising tensions and many under the table deals, Lex
Luthor attacks Superman in as many ways as he can.
His envy drives him to not only put Superman's existence in
jeopardy, but the Earth's as well.
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Earth's. Earth's that Lex with her, He's
got a chip on his shoulder. Let me tell you something.
He. Really does.
So angry, So angry. OK, So what did you think of the
first starting off point for theDCU let?
Me tell you a little something about this movie right here, OK?
It had action. It had heart.
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It had laughs. That I think was my favorite
part about it was that it didn'ttake itself too seriously.
That's really general thoughts. OK, How about you?
What'd you? Think we'll leave it there.
Yeah, I think there's this word that's been going around with
the the early reviews and stuff.It's like the most comic booky
comic book movie. And I didn't know what that
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meant going into it, but I agree.
Like, I think I finally understand there's a lot of not
really caring to hold people's hands into the weird, wacky
world of comic books when it comes to this movie.
And I really enjoyed the silliness that Superman can be.
One of my favorite things about reading Superman comics is yes,
there is serious moments and there's big world ending things
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that happened, but this just James Gunn gets the character.
So my general thoughts is James Gunn gets it.
And I left that movie with a huge smile on my face.
Yeah, absolutely. And you know, the thing with
James Gunn is that, as we know, I mean, he did the right MCU and
now he's doing, are they callingit the DCU?
Is that what they're calling it?And I think that it had a
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different feel from the MCU. And I think that was smart,
right? He wasn't just replicating what
he's already done. He's taking these this other
universe and giving it a different kind of spin.
Now, do I think that it, as it goes on, needs to be slapsticky
or anything like that? No, absolutely not.
But I do like these little nods to things that happened
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throughout the film that make you laugh a little.
You know, one of the things thatI thought was so nicely
downplayed is Superman and Lois are having a conversation.
She hands him Coco. They're kind of just talking
about their next steps, what's going on?
And there's, like, a galactic fight happening in the
background. And it wasn't over the top.
No one came flying through the window.
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It's just like, this is their life, and that's how it's
happening. Yeah.
That was a lot of fun. One thing that I really liked
about this movie and what James Gunn I think did with it is it
didn't give us Krypton exploding.
We don't need that. I think us as just general
audiences, right? We've seen that many times.
Everybody knows Superman. I think Superman, Spider Man and
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Batman, we get it like we know their origin story.
So starting this of three years,he's already Superman.
We're getting that. He's at the lowest point.
He lost his battle. That's where the movie starts,
right? I liked it because it felt like
you picked up an issue of a comic book and you're just
thrown into it. So the comic, comic book Ness of
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it and what James Gunn sought out to do, I think he nailed.
I think he nailed the feeling ofthat because a lot of the action
fights and just that moment thatyou're talking about where
they're talking and you see thatfight in the background, it just
looks like a splash page. So he did a good job with that
and it does feel different from Guardians and you still get the
James gunness of it. So he carried that over.
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But I think it's a a little bit more polished.
James Gunn, yeah. Yeah, I like that feeling too.
You know, it, it's it's the StarWars thing, right?
Of we're reading the kind of prologue of what happened.
And so we're already put into all of the action.
We don't have to figure out how the character was created, where
it came from. Like you said, we know.
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And so just by what were there like maybe 456 lines, it was
like, all right, we're good. We know what we're doing.
Yeah, at the beginning it explains.
Yeah. And of course, we see Superman
crash into the ice of Antarctica, and we see our first
moment of David Korzwith as Superman.
What did you feel about his betrayal of Superman?
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We've gotten a few and some havebeen casted but never got to see
the light of day. True.
I mean, I think what David did is that he got what James Gunn
was trying to do with the Superman, right?
The thing that I love most that he he brought to it was really
this sort of wholesome, almost, Gee Williker's Superman, which I
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really appreciated, right? There's that goodness and that
kindness. And really, that's at least from
this film, what Superman is all about.
Well, I think that's what Superman is about.
And a lot of times when they're creating these big movies and
supposed to be blockbuster moments that they tried to make
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them a little more serious than they should be or they lose some
of those core things that make that character.
And I think DC prior to this, itlost Superman.
It lost to Superman is supposed to be in what he means.
And I like that they just brought it back.
You know, he didn't really curseat all in this movie and he did
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I think maybe once, but it was those G Williker moments where
it's like, yes, that's Superman,but it's like the kindness of
him, him saving everything from a a squirrel and a dog to a
little girl and everybody holding a building up so it
doesn't crush them on a bridge. You know, it's like him looking
after from the smallest to the biggest things.
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That's what makes Superman Superman, and I think they
nailed that. And especially David.
David just has this, like I laughed, I was with him when he
was serious. I those conversations, there's
only one really slow moment and it's with Lois and Superman when
she's interviewing him and I just just hearing him do those
levels. He's a fully formed figure and
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not just starting out. Yeah.
And an interesting thing that I thought is that we really got to
see him become super, even though it wasn't an origin
story, right? Because when we're first meeting
him, he's injured. He just lost his fight.
So we see him in that respect, and then we see him having this
kind of intense conversation with Lois.
But then as it goes on, we're building his heart, we're
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building his character. And then we see those really
great fight sets, you know, towards the end of the film.
And I liked that at first because I actually thought it
gave the other characters a chance to shine, and I thought
that was really important in building out this world.
Yeah, there was a lot of characters in this movie too.
I I was really worried when I saw the Castless and I saw
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everything from like a Green Lantern to Mr. Terrific.
I was like, Oh no, like the first movie for this, this is
going to be too much. But I, I think it was handled
well. I I think they were able to
balance everybody, but I like that the core always came back
to Lois and Superman. Absolutely, and I think it also
was a fun thing for to be three.What was it 3 dates into their
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relationship, however long that is.
And so she knows who he is already.
There isn't this big. Oh gosh, you're Superman.
It's like she knows what she's dealing with.
And I thought that Rachel Brosnahan did a fantastic job.
You know, Lois was so headstrongand intelligent and, you know,
could fly Mr. Terrific's ship with without any lessons, which
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I thought is just like. Yeah, Mr. Terrific thinks that
the hardest things are simple. So when he tells somebody it's
intuitive, it's not very intuitive.
It's really funny to see that happen even with somebody as
smart as Lois, right. Rachel Brosnahan I the second I
heard that they were casted as Lois, absolutely perfect.
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She she had the look, she had the wit, she had the the
brazenness of Lois and also justthe braveness of her and not
afraid like even though she's dating this man, right?
Get back to that interview that they're having.
She's like, Oh no, I'm a journalist first and foremost,
and I'm just going to ask you these hard hitting questions.
Sorry. Like, yeah, we can still date
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after this, but this is my job, right?
I absolutely amazing. And I like how much they
involved her in the movie. And again, it just bookended it.
It started with them seeing thisrelationship and then I just
love that final moment with themkissing and then kind of
floating up. I was so happy.
Right. I, that is like the ultimate
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Superman lowest thing, right, isthe kissing and kind of
revolving into the air. I was really happy that we got
them moving, too. Yeah.
And I really did enjoy her pushing, you know, into Clark
pushing against Superman and asking him these really
important questions. And I think The thing is because
he's in this bubble of kindness,he almost can't understand how
people can see what he's doing as challenging, right?
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And so she, in a way, is trying to make him realize this is how
you're being perceived. And even in this world, you
know, we see a lot of stuff about social media as well and
how much it upsets him. Did you like the the
introduction of social media andkind of Internet journalism into
this? It's fine.
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I mean, we're not going to get any suits changing into phone
booths because they don't exist anymore.
So I think it's just the naturalevolution of the character that
you have this billionaire egomaniac that's running around,
of course he's going to use monkeys as his bots to, to farm
hatred towards his character online.
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I, I liked it and I didn't. It's one of those things where
it's like when we get some of that really real world stuff in,
in our media, it's like God, of course.
But I think it was fine. I, I don't think it was played
too much. I did like the monkeys though.
I didn't, but I did like the monkeys.
I thought it was funny. We're all just the monkeys
typing away. I was kind of curious of what
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your thoughts were about the thegame the Justice Gang.
The Justice Gang, Oh man, I I liked them there.
I mean, I think Mr. Terrific wasprobably my favorite out of all
of them. Nathan Fillion as Guy Gardner
was fine. I liked him a lot more than I
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thought I would. I'm interested to see him in
Lanterns and then just that whole Green Lantern side get
flushed out. Isabel Merced as hot girl.
Fantastic, yeah, I thought they were good.
I think they all kind of got moments to shine and it wasn't
too overstuffed with them. But I think Mr. Terrific kind of
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comes up on top for me at as faras the gang.
But I did like we're getting theseeds planted of the Justice
League because that's obviously what it is, or the Justice
Society, who knows what it's going to morph into, but it's
definitely not Justice Gang. But I I liked the the nods to
that and then seeing the building that Maxwell Lord is
obviously paying for. That's going to be the Hall of
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Justice. So it's very exciting.
It's like, oh, this is like the building blocks to stuff that is
just going to be great to see coming to fruition.
I thought it was so funny. Another kind of sight gag was
them in this Hall of Justice. Like it's not fully furnished
yet, like they're still working on it.
And then Lois leaves, and, like,her car is just parked right
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outside. It's like the grandeur of the
Hall of Justice. Exactly what happens.
Like, she's like, OK, be beep. All right, I got to go.
I got to go. What did you think of them?
I really like them. You know, I have to admit that
the the Guy Gardner character was interesting, right?
He was kind of giving me almost like a peacemaker, which who
makes a cameo and this, but likethat kind of bravado that I know
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best thing. And it was just kind of the
styling of him felt almost the least new IT was.
It must have been that haircut. I don't know what it was, but he
has. That haircut, unfortunately,
there's been instances where he has a fresher cut, but he just
always has the bowl cut. He's he is that guy that's like
the one Green Lantern that is inyour face kind of, you know,
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well, not too great to be aroundall the time, but he's a good
guy at the end of the day. Yeah, yeah, that's true.
And you know, you could see thatthey're out in the end where
there's the big battle as his Green Lantern powers are
flipping the tanks, they're alsoflipping them off, which I
thought was really funny with Hawk Girl.
I'm so happy to see Isabella Merced, you know, again.
We're getting so much of her lately.
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We heart her, we're just all about her.
And one of the things that I liked really was like her
fierceness, you know, and how she's not afraid to really fight
back. And kill and kill political
leaders. That should be.
Yeah, So I thought that was, youwant to let that settle?
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Yeah, I thought that was really cool.
I really. Well, it's so funny, right?
Because we, you know, they're doing this huge press tour,
obviously, and we've watched a couple of interviews with them
and they were taking a BuzzFeed quiz.
And Rachel Brosnahan, he was like, oh, they were like, oh,
who did you want? You want to be Hawker?
She's like, I don't want to be Hawk Girl.
And I was like, oh, man, what isHawk Girl's deal?
But, you know, I guess she just kind of, she stays back and
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maybe doesn't fight for justice as often as maybe Lois Lane
would like her to. She does.
They just, I think what I like that they showed was that even
though this Justice gang has different characters, they're
not all Superman. Like, they're all going to not
not kill, right. And I think the that particular
scene with Hot Girl, he's like, you're not going to kill me.
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She's like, I'm not Superman. You don't know.
Bye. Bye.
Yeah. And I really like that because I
think it does give us some different varyings of what each
character means to be here and what their moral code is.
Superman shouldn't kill. I think that's just kind of been
a thing, right? And it's like we hold the the
highest members up to the highest level, but it's like,
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hot girl, yeah, go, go do it felt right.
It's so silly. A little slip through the
fingers. And as far as Mr. Terrific is
concerned, I really loved that he had a big part in this entire
thing. His technology, really, if it
wasn't for his technology, they wouldn't have been able to do
much of anything at all. Yeah, I think they used him
really well. I was so excited that this
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character was going to be in something because they're just
so interesting and they're so cool.
And Eddie Gothiggi, so good. I am glad that he finally got
justice as a good comic book character because when he was in
X-Men First Class, he played Darwin.
Darwin is a character that has reactive evolution, meaning he
cannot die. He can't die.
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They killed him in that movie inthe dumbest way possible and he
even agrees that it was like really bad.
So I'm glad he has redemption inthe comic book world.
I absolutely think he does. And you know, whatever this kind
of DC Universe becomes, I think Mr. Terrific is going to be a
solid. Yeah, what did you think about
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Nicholas Holt as Lex Luthor? Well, I think Nicholas Halt is
less Luther. I mean, he really did it right.
He he played the part really well.
That is the one character, though, that I almost felt like
I needed a little back story on.So yes, because yes, I know he
is Superman's adversary, but my whole thing, I'm going why?
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Why not? But why?
He, he, I think he says it perfectly and towards the end of
the climax and like he's admitting he's like, I know my
ego is so big. I know these things about
myself. I'm going to do those things
because I know who I am. Like this is like, that's
something I can't change about myself.
And he, he sees Superman as the next step of evolution that they
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will never be able to get to so that he is better than the human
race. And Lex Luthor cannot deal with
it as far as this is what this interpretation of that
characters is talking about. And that's just who he is.
He, his ego is so conflated and so huge that he can't stand
somebody being the perfect being.
How dare, how dare somebody the perfect being.
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And that's Lex's deal. He just can't.
He can't understand why somebodyis that good when he has all the
resources and he can help everybody.
But yet Superman is the one that's praised and lauded
around, right? All right, I appreciate.
Thank you for explaining that tome.
But I was just for a lot of it, I was going like what what is
the deal? Like what is the deal?
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And then he. Just hates him man.
He's obsessed with him. He's like and, and I love that
he Superman says that to him. He's like, your obsession with
me is just. Too much I mean that's that's
LAX like that's that sums him upman, I love it.
I love it because the. Hair.
The hair. You're jealous.
Well, he's jealous of the hair, Yeah.
You would know, no, you can relate.
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I was outright attacked on this podcast.
You all just heard it or saw it.Facts are facts, Lois Lane.
What did you think of Nicholas? I know him, so I call him
Nicholas. Wow first name basis.
I thought he was good. I I do think he's one of the
best Lex movie movie Lexus. I think that there is not
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disparaging the classics. I think they're great, but I
just think he kind of brought multiple levels to this
character, levels that I've wanted to see like, oh, he could
get away with things. Oh, he it it would make sense on
how he could become president, right, But also be the villain
to Superman. Do these all these like kind of
in the shadows, working things and creating these conflicts to
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get his way. I really, really liked I think
that. And again, that's writing and
that's plot and that's what theydid.
But I think he delivered those so well.
In particular, I think the one that scared me in the most is
when they're in that prison and he does like the the Russian
roulette with the guy and he's like, oh, I didn't think that
would end so quickly. I was like Yikes this guy is
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messed. Up.
Yeah, he has. No, he doesn't really have
regret in anything. He's just willing to do whatever
he has to do to get his way. Yeah.
He has the resources and money and he can.
It's going to be interesting to see what happens next.
Like he's obviously going to getout of Belle Reeves, we know
that, but how and when is going to be very interesting to see
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that. Yeah, I think, you know, as a
whole, this character of Lex Luthor, one of the things that I
remember way, way, way back whenwe covered The Mandalorian
season 2, we we would have conversations about like, OK,
but how do you become a stormtrooper?
Like, why do you, why do you want to be a stormtrooper?
And we see in this that Lex has this like, very eager, very
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loyal following in a number of different ways.
And, you know, I think the paintthe picture that it's painting
that if someone has enough resources and some bit of
charisma, people are willing to follow them, right?
And so there was one point you and I had kind of leaned over to
each other when we're looking atthe gate in the desert.
And all those people wearing their Hawaiian shirts and I had
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said something like they're likea cult.
And then later on they are described as his cult.
And so it really does have that cult like following.
Where are these people who are just like, blindly following
this person because they've fed into whatever megalomania they
have about them? Yeah, he has the resources and
he can let them kind of explore things that maybe other jobs
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won't let them, you know? So why not?
I'll wear that Hawaiian shirt ifI want to fiddle with pocket
dimensions and. You know, I mean, I guess it is
exciting. So with any good villain and his
hench men, there's always lots of fights, which is duh.
And you know, one of the things that was like kind of crazy was
that again with his obsession, Lex has studied Superman so much
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that he's coded every single oneof his moves.
And so those fight scenes are really interesting, right?
He's kind of talking to, I mean,spoiler alert, super clone
Ultraman. Ultraman Cloner, man.
Yeah, yeah. But the the interesting thing,
like kind of like what I was saying earlier was that I felt
like there the action Superman'saction sequences weren't very
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action Y in the beginning. It was a lot of him just like
saving squirrels, which save thesquirrels and, you know,
stopping buildings from falling on people.
But like he wasn't doing a lot of the destroying or or beating
up. Well, I don't think he should be
destroying I I well, and I the only reason why I say that is
because I do think there were some digs at the Man of Steel a
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little bit because one of the big critiques of the Man of
Steel was the final fart fart. The final fight with General Zod
and Superman. They'd like destroyed Metropolis
and everybody was like, oh, geez, like in a Superman film.
It's like how many people died in that?
A lot. And granted, it did play into
future movies, but they had kindof said something.
And one of the things that Superman kept doing in a lot of
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these fights was trying to save people and lessen the damage,
which I appreciate. And I think that a hero at the
caliber that Superman is has to be wary of those types of
things. And so for him to punch and
fight, he has to have enemies that he can punch and fight.
So having the Engineer and having Ultraman, I think was a
good choice because he can do things physically that he might
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not be able to do with like regular robbers, right?
The action sequences were interesting though, because I
felt like they were too close up.
Like it was a very interesting way to shoot the action.
I almost wanted them to pull back a little bit sometimes
because almost every action sequence was like right close
up. And I think if I could be wrong,
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but I'm pretty sure the person that did the Flash also did this
one and it made sense. And my head was like 01 of the
things I didn't like about the Flash was that.
And unfortunately that almost carried over in this.
That's that. That's like my biggest thing
with the fights. I maybe we'll get more
superhuman fights later on, but I think it was a good
introduction. Not.
Enough hot dogs. No.
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There was a baby. So there's also that similarity.
And in that fight scene, I completely agree.
I was. So they're in the pocket
universe and Superman is inside.I don't know what it was some
sort of, I don't know, Photon river or something like that.
And like I didn't really know what was going on.
Like he was kind of going down the river or into the black hole
and then out of the black hole. And then at some point he turned
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around in the black hole. So that being all super close
up, I felt like things got lost in in translation there.
But I mean, we did get to see the best boy.
No Crypto. Crypto yeah, his action
sequences were perfect and. Follows.
Crypto the best devil shit of a dog.
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I'd die for that dog. I hate him.
You know, the things that this movie has taught me is that
humans can be kind and they can be loving and that we should
treat animals with respect and love.
OK. Because Superman has shown me
all those things and crypto. Even though he might think T
spheres are just playthings, he's a good boy.
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Yeah, he's great. I love the addition of crypto in
this movie. I think the changing of him was
fun, him being kind of rambunctious and untrained to
make sense because he's Cara, he's super girls dog and she's
very much on a Bender right now.So I don't think she trained
him, but I thought that it was great.
And also just the visual, like they've never included crypto.
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I was going to say super dog crypto really in anything
because, you know, fear of it being too goofy and not really
working. I think it worked perfectly
fine. But you know, maybe it just took
a guy like James Gunn to come around and just be like, like, I
can do it. It's fine.
A dog? No problem.
I made you guys feel for a raccoon you.
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Just have to go into it with confidence and also just not be
afraid. And I think that's exactly what
he did. I think crypto was a really
great addition to this and I think it added to that really
that comicy feeling of this movie, you know, just really the
the fun that can be had. And, and, and I again, I really,
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really enjoy that. I really loved that in this
movie. I don't know, I can't explain
it. Like I felt like Superman's
Blues were Blues. His Reds were red, right?
They weren't dark and mysterious.
He's a good guy, right? He's got one single curl that
hangs from his head. I mean, he is.
He is also the goodest guy. It was actually really nice,
too, that we, I love Clark and Ilove that they, you know, did
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little Easter eggs about his hypno glasses and stuff.
That's wild that we ever got that in film.
But we didn't really see a lot of Clark, which I feel like some
of the earlier adaptations, theyalways try to balance it.
And, you know, yeah, we need theClark stuff.
But I think the Clark stuff worked so well when we were with
Mom, Pop Kent and Lois. And I think we didn't need more.
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I think it showed us this. He can be Clark, but Clark is
just as much a part of him as Superman is, and it's hard to
tell the difference sometimes. And I think that's the good sign
of understanding that character.But we got so much Superman in
this. It just felt.
It felt right. It felt right.
Yeah, I, you know, one thing I was thinking about, I was like,
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man, they must think he is some great field reporter because he
is never in that office. He's just gone.
Nope. World is ending.
Gone. I like that Lois also was like,
even though she knew who he was at the beginning, I was like,
oh, no, we're going to have to. She's going to have to find out.
I was like, rolling my eyes, butshe knew.
And she was almost checking him when she was saying when he
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came. And she was like, oh, you always
get these exclusive interviews with Superman.
Weird. It's like, yeah dude, chill out.
Yeah, he's like, that's what he told me.
Yeah, very good. Yeah, I just, I'm, I'm so
excited. I think the DCU looks bright.
I'm very interested to see whereit goes from here.
The only thing that does worry me, and I would love to be
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proved wrong, is that like the next stuff that's coming is
interesting because it's not, you would think like it's
starting with Superman and we'regoing to get like, you know,
another bigger here or like maybe Mr. Terrific, it's a movie
or whatever. But like we're getting the
lanterns, which is fine. It's going to be fun, but it's
ATV show I'm trying to piece together, like why are we going
from here to here? But I don't know.
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I'll trust the process. Yeah, it it is interesting,
right? You would think that this, this
film would be the springboard for these characters to move on.
But we're going to other characters.
Or even like bigger ones, you know, like Aquaman, Batman,
Wonder Woman, Flash, like I guess those are just going to be
down the line, right? And also, do they exist already?
But when I get when I hear TV series, I get nervous.
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I get a little nervous. All right, final thoughts.
Final thoughts, just I haven't said this in a while.
What a romp I. Haven't said it in a while. 3
episodes ago. Not true, not true.
We were talking about The Last of Us, not a romp, not a romp,
just a lot of fun. And I felt like this, like this
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is going to sound so cheesy, butlike, this is for the whole
family, right? This isn't just for dad who
collected superhero comics when he was a kid.
This isn't just for kids. And it's goofy.
Like this felt like there was something in it for everyone and
I really like that. Yeah, I agree.
I think it's a fantastic start to this new endeavour.
I hope it takes off and I hope we can get more of this because
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I love these characters just as much as I love the MCU.
I just, I'm excited for the variety.
I'm excited for the difference difference of them and seeing
how it all connects. But yeah, I, I thought fantastic
cast, visually great man. What mortgage you want?
Super fun Superman. Super fun.
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Let. Us know what you thought of
Superman and you know, not to like take it away from DC, but
the MCU, the next thing we're going to be doing is Fantastic
Four and very excited for that one.
I'm just letting you know what'scoming up.
It's fantastic. Four.
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Oh. Noah has been singing Fantastic
Four like non-stop for no reasonalways.
It is my it's just like the vocal stem that is just
constantly in my head. And I just found out that the
Herbie popcorn bucket, when you put push the button, it sings
the Fantastic Four theme song. And you know what?
(29:31):
I'm getting that Herbie bucket so I don't have to sing it, but
Herbie can sing it. We're all really excited.
Goodbye.
I know he's a Superman, but you know who's a good boy?
Oh no. Crypto, OH.
Yeah, I didn't know where that was going.
It's just a pop. He's.
Always listening and thank you for listening to this episode of
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A Bite of I'm Derek. That's Noah.
And today we are talking about James Gunn's Superman.
Yes, Superman DCU has officiallystarted.
We have lots of thoughts. We are literally fresh from
seeing the movie. We saw a mirror like hour ago.
We have lots of thoughts. Before we get into it, make sure
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Superman? If you've seen it, what do you
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Absolutely. All right, so let us officially
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take a bite of Superman. Written and directed by James
Gunn. Superman's place in the world is
questioned after he stops a war between two foreign nations.
Using these rising tensions and many under the table deals, Lex
Luthor attacks Superman in as many ways as he can.
His envy drives him to not only put Superman's existence in
jeopardy, but the Earth's as well.
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Earth's. Earth's that Lex with her, He's
got a chip on his shoulder. Let me tell you something.
He. Really does.
So angry, So angry. OK, So what did you think of the
first starting off point for theDCU let?
Me tell you a little something about this movie right here, OK?
It had action. It had heart.
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It had laughs. That I think was my favorite
part about it was that it didn'ttake itself too seriously.
That's really general thoughts. OK, How about you?
What'd you? Think we'll leave it there.
Yeah, I think there's this word that's been going around with
the the early reviews and stuff.It's like the most comic booky
comic book movie. And I didn't know what that
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meant going into it, but I agree.
Like, I think I finally understand there's a lot of not
really caring to hold people's hands into the weird, wacky
world of comic books when it comes to this movie.
And I really enjoyed the silliness that Superman can be.
One of my favorite things about reading Superman comics is yes,
there is serious moments and there's big world ending things
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that happened, but this just James Gunn gets the character.
So my general thoughts is James Gunn gets it.
And I left that movie with a huge smile on my face.
Yeah, absolutely. And you know, the thing with
James Gunn is that, as we know, I mean, he did the right MCU and
now he's doing, are they callingit the DCU?
Is that what they're calling it?And I think that it had a
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different feel from the MCU. And I think that was smart,
right? He wasn't just replicating what
he's already done. He's taking these this other
universe and giving it a different kind of spin.
Now, do I think that it, as it goes on, needs to be slapsticky
or anything like that? No, absolutely not.
But I do like these little nods to things that happened
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throughout the film that make you laugh a little.
You know, one of the things thatI thought was so nicely
downplayed is Superman and Lois are having a conversation.
She hands him Coco. They're kind of just talking
about their next steps, what's going on?
And there's, like, a galactic fight happening in the
background. And it wasn't over the top.
No one came flying through the window.
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It's just like, this is their life, and that's how it's
happening. Yeah.
That was a lot of fun. One thing that I really liked
about this movie and what James Gunn I think did with it is it
didn't give us Krypton exploding.
We don't need that. I think us as just general
audiences, right? We've seen that many times.
Everybody knows Superman. I think Superman, Spider Man and
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Batman, we get it like we know their origin story.
So starting this of three years,he's already Superman.
We're getting that. He's at the lowest point.
He lost his battle. That's where the movie starts,
right? I liked it because it felt like
you picked up an issue of a comic book and you're just
thrown into it. So the comic, comic book Ness of
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it and what James Gunn sought out to do, I think he nailed.
I think he nailed the feeling ofthat because a lot of the action
fights and just that moment thatyou're talking about where
they're talking and you see thatfight in the background, it just
looks like a splash page. So he did a good job with that
and it does feel different from Guardians and you still get the
James gunness of it. So he carried that over.
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But I think it's a a little bit more polished.
James Gunn, yeah. Yeah, I like that feeling too.
You know, it, it's it's the StarWars thing, right?
Of we're reading the kind of prologue of what happened.
And so we're already put into all of the action.
We don't have to figure out how the character was created, where
it came from. Like you said, we know.
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And so just by what were there like maybe 456 lines, it was
like, all right, we're good. We know what we're doing.
Yeah, at the beginning it explains.
Yeah. And of course, we see Superman
crash into the ice of Antarctica, and we see our first
moment of David Korzwith as Superman.
What did you feel about his betrayal of Superman?
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We've gotten a few and some havebeen casted but never got to see
the light of day. True.
I mean, I think what David did is that he got what James Gunn
was trying to do with the Superman, right?
The thing that I love most that he he brought to it was really
this sort of wholesome, almost, Gee Williker's Superman, which I
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really appreciated, right? There's that goodness and that
kindness. And really, that's at least from
this film, what Superman is all about.
Well, I think that's what Superman is about.
And a lot of times when they're creating these big movies and
supposed to be blockbuster moments that they tried to make
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them a little more serious than they should be or they lose some
of those core things that make that character.
And I think DC prior to this, itlost Superman.
It lost to Superman is supposed to be in what he means.
And I like that they just brought it back.
You know, he didn't really curseat all in this movie and he did
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I think maybe once, but it was those G Williker moments where
it's like, yes, that's Superman,but it's like the kindness of
him, him saving everything from a a squirrel and a dog to a
little girl and everybody holding a building up so it
doesn't crush them on a bridge. You know, it's like him looking
after from the smallest to the biggest things.
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That's what makes Superman Superman, and I think they
nailed that. And especially David.
David just has this, like I laughed, I was with him when he
was serious. I those conversations, there's
only one really slow moment and it's with Lois and Superman when
she's interviewing him and I just just hearing him do those
levels. He's a fully formed figure and
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not just starting out. Yeah.
And an interesting thing that I thought is that we really got to
see him become super, even though it wasn't an origin
story, right? Because when we're first meeting
him, he's injured. He just lost his fight.
So we see him in that respect, and then we see him having this
kind of intense conversation with Lois.
But then as it goes on, we're building his heart, we're
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building his character. And then we see those really
great fight sets, you know, towards the end of the film.
And I liked that at first because I actually thought it
gave the other characters a chance to shine, and I thought
that was really important in building out this world.
Yeah, there was a lot of characters in this movie too.
I I was really worried when I saw the Castless and I saw
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everything from like a Green Lantern to Mr. Terrific.
I was like, Oh no, like the first movie for this, this is
going to be too much. But I, I think it was handled
well. I I think they were able to
balance everybody, but I like that the core always came back
to Lois and Superman. Absolutely, and I think it also
was a fun thing for to be three.What was it 3 dates into their
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relationship, however long that is.
And so she knows who he is already.
There isn't this big. Oh gosh, you're Superman.
It's like she knows what she's dealing with.
And I thought that Rachel Brosnahan did a fantastic job.
You know, Lois was so headstrongand intelligent and, you know,
could fly Mr. Terrific's ship with without any lessons, which
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I thought is just like. Yeah, Mr. Terrific thinks that
the hardest things are simple. So when he tells somebody it's
intuitive, it's not very intuitive.
It's really funny to see that happen even with somebody as
smart as Lois, right. Rachel Brosnahan I the second I
heard that they were casted as Lois, absolutely perfect.
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She she had the look, she had the wit, she had the the
brazenness of Lois and also justthe braveness of her and not
afraid like even though she's dating this man, right?
Get back to that interview that they're having.
She's like, Oh no, I'm a journalist first and foremost,
and I'm just going to ask you these hard hitting questions.
Sorry. Like, yeah, we can still date
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after this, but this is my job, right?
I absolutely amazing. And I like how much they
involved her in the movie. And again, it just bookended it.
It started with them seeing thisrelationship and then I just
love that final moment with themkissing and then kind of
floating up. I was so happy.
Right. I, that is like the ultimate
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Superman lowest thing, right, isthe kissing and kind of
revolving into the air. I was really happy that we got
them moving, too. Yeah.
And I really did enjoy her pushing, you know, into Clark
pushing against Superman and asking him these really
important questions. And I think The thing is because
he's in this bubble of kindness,he almost can't understand how
people can see what he's doing as challenging, right?
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And so she, in a way, is trying to make him realize this is how
you're being perceived. And even in this world, you
know, we see a lot of stuff about social media as well and
how much it upsets him. Did you like the the
introduction of social media andkind of Internet journalism into
this? It's fine.
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I mean, we're not going to get any suits changing into phone
booths because they don't exist anymore.
So I think it's just the naturalevolution of the character that
you have this billionaire egomaniac that's running around,
of course he's going to use monkeys as his bots to, to farm
hatred towards his character online.
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I, I liked it and I didn't. It's one of those things where
it's like when we get some of that really real world stuff in,
in our media, it's like God, of course.
But I think it was fine. I, I don't think it was played
too much. I did like the monkeys though.
I didn't, but I did like the monkeys.
I thought it was funny. We're all just the monkeys
typing away. I was kind of curious of what
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your thoughts were about the thegame the Justice Gang.
The Justice Gang, Oh man, I I liked them there.
I mean, I think Mr. Terrific wasprobably my favorite out of all
of them. Nathan Fillion as Guy Gardner
was fine. I liked him a lot more than I
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thought I would. I'm interested to see him in
Lanterns and then just that whole Green Lantern side get
flushed out. Isabel Merced as hot girl.
Fantastic, yeah, I thought they were good.
I think they all kind of got moments to shine and it wasn't
too overstuffed with them. But I think Mr. Terrific kind of
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comes up on top for me at as faras the gang.
But I did like we're getting theseeds planted of the Justice
League because that's obviously what it is, or the Justice
Society, who knows what it's going to morph into, but it's
definitely not Justice Gang. But I I liked the the nods to
that and then seeing the building that Maxwell Lord is
obviously paying for. That's going to be the Hall of
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Justice. So it's very exciting.
It's like, oh, this is like the building blocks to stuff that is
just going to be great to see coming to fruition.
I thought it was so funny. Another kind of sight gag was
them in this Hall of Justice. Like it's not fully furnished
yet, like they're still working on it.
And then Lois leaves, and, like,her car is just parked right
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outside. It's like the grandeur of the
Hall of Justice. Exactly what happens.
Like, she's like, OK, be beep. All right, I got to go.
I got to go. What did you think of them?
I really like them. You know, I have to admit that
the the Guy Gardner character was interesting, right?
He was kind of giving me almost like a peacemaker, which who
makes a cameo and this, but likethat kind of bravado that I know
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best thing. And it was just kind of the
styling of him felt almost the least new IT was.
It must have been that haircut. I don't know what it was, but he
has. That haircut, unfortunately,
there's been instances where he has a fresher cut, but he just
always has the bowl cut. He's he is that guy that's like
the one Green Lantern that is inyour face kind of, you know,
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well, not too great to be aroundall the time, but he's a good
guy at the end of the day. Yeah, yeah, that's true.
And you know, you could see thatthey're out in the end where
there's the big battle as his Green Lantern powers are
flipping the tanks, they're alsoflipping them off, which I
thought was really funny with Hawk Girl.
I'm so happy to see Isabella Merced, you know, again.
We're getting so much of her lately.
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We heart her, we're just all about her.
And one of the things that I liked really was like her
fierceness, you know, and how she's not afraid to really fight
back. And kill and kill political
leaders. That should be.
Yeah, So I thought that was, youwant to let that settle?
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Yeah, I thought that was really cool.
I really. Well, it's so funny, right?
Because we, you know, they're doing this huge press tour,
obviously, and we've watched a couple of interviews with them
and they were taking a BuzzFeed quiz.
And Rachel Brosnahan, he was like, oh, they were like, oh,
who did you want? You want to be Hawker?
She's like, I don't want to be Hawk Girl.
And I was like, oh, man, what isHawk Girl's deal?
But, you know, I guess she just kind of, she stays back and
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maybe doesn't fight for justice as often as maybe Lois Lane
would like her to. She does.
They just, I think what I like that they showed was that even
though this Justice gang has different characters, they're
not all Superman. Like, they're all going to not
not kill, right. And I think the that particular
scene with Hot Girl, he's like, you're not going to kill me.
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She's like, I'm not Superman. You don't know.
Bye. Bye.
Yeah. And I really like that because I
think it does give us some different varyings of what each
character means to be here and what their moral code is.
Superman shouldn't kill. I think that's just kind of been
a thing, right? And it's like we hold the the
highest members up to the highest level, but it's like,
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hot girl, yeah, go, go do it felt right.
It's so silly. A little slip through the
fingers. And as far as Mr. Terrific is
concerned, I really loved that he had a big part in this entire
thing. His technology, really, if it
wasn't for his technology, they wouldn't have been able to do
much of anything at all. Yeah, I think they used him
really well. I was so excited that this
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character was going to be in something because they're just
so interesting and they're so cool.
And Eddie Gothiggi, so good. I am glad that he finally got
justice as a good comic book character because when he was in
X-Men First Class, he played Darwin.
Darwin is a character that has reactive evolution, meaning he
cannot die. He can't die.
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They killed him in that movie inthe dumbest way possible and he
even agrees that it was like really bad.
So I'm glad he has redemption inthe comic book world.
I absolutely think he does. And you know, whatever this kind
of DC Universe becomes, I think Mr. Terrific is going to be a
solid. Yeah, what did you think about
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Nicholas Holt as Lex Luthor? Well, I think Nicholas Halt is
less Luther. I mean, he really did it right.
He he played the part really well.
That is the one character, though, that I almost felt like
I needed a little back story on.So yes, because yes, I know he
is Superman's adversary, but my whole thing, I'm going why?
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Why not? But why?
He, he, I think he says it perfectly and towards the end of
the climax and like he's admitting he's like, I know my
ego is so big. I know these things about
myself. I'm going to do those things
because I know who I am. Like this is like, that's
something I can't change about myself.
And he, he sees Superman as the next step of evolution that they
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will never be able to get to so that he is better than the human
race. And Lex Luthor cannot deal with
it as far as this is what this interpretation of that
characters is talking about. And that's just who he is.
He, his ego is so conflated and so huge that he can't stand
somebody being the perfect being.
How dare, how dare somebody the perfect being.
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And that's Lex's deal. He just can't.
He can't understand why somebodyis that good when he has all the
resources and he can help everybody.
But yet Superman is the one that's praised and lauded
around, right? All right, I appreciate.
Thank you for explaining that tome.
But I was just for a lot of it, I was going like what what is
the deal? Like what is the deal?
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And then he. Just hates him man.
He's obsessed with him. He's like and, and I love that
he Superman says that to him. He's like, your obsession with
me is just. Too much I mean that's that's
LAX like that's that sums him upman, I love it.
I love it because the. Hair.
The hair. You're jealous.
Well, he's jealous of the hair, Yeah.
You would know, no, you can relate.
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I was outright attacked on this podcast.
You all just heard it or saw it.Facts are facts, Lois Lane.
What did you think of Nicholas? I know him, so I call him
Nicholas. Wow first name basis.
I thought he was good. I I do think he's one of the
best Lex movie movie Lexus. I think that there is not
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disparaging the classics. I think they're great, but I
just think he kind of brought multiple levels to this
character, levels that I've wanted to see like, oh, he could
get away with things. Oh, he it it would make sense on
how he could become president, right, But also be the villain
to Superman. Do these all these like kind of
in the shadows, working things and creating these conflicts to
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get his way. I really, really liked I think
that. And again, that's writing and
that's plot and that's what theydid.
But I think he delivered those so well.
In particular, I think the one that scared me in the most is
when they're in that prison and he does like the the Russian
roulette with the guy and he's like, oh, I didn't think that
would end so quickly. I was like Yikes this guy is
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messed. Up.
Yeah, he has. No, he doesn't really have
regret in anything. He's just willing to do whatever
he has to do to get his way. Yeah.
He has the resources and money and he can.
It's going to be interesting to see what happens next.
Like he's obviously going to getout of Belle Reeves, we know
that, but how and when is going to be very interesting to see
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that. Yeah, I think, you know, as a
whole, this character of Lex Luthor, one of the things that I
remember way, way, way back whenwe covered The Mandalorian
season 2, we we would have conversations about like, OK,
but how do you become a stormtrooper?
Like, why do you, why do you want to be a stormtrooper?
And we see in this that Lex has this like, very eager, very
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loyal following in a number of different ways.
And, you know, I think the paintthe picture that it's painting
that if someone has enough resources and some bit of
charisma, people are willing to follow them, right?
And so there was one point you and I had kind of leaned over to
each other when we're looking atthe gate in the desert.
And all those people wearing their Hawaiian shirts and I had
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said something like they're likea cult.
And then later on they are described as his cult.
And so it really does have that cult like following.
Where are these people who are just like, blindly following
this person because they've fed into whatever megalomania they
have about them? Yeah, he has the resources and
he can let them kind of explore things that maybe other jobs
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won't let them, you know? So why not?
I'll wear that Hawaiian shirt ifI want to fiddle with pocket
dimensions and. You know, I mean, I guess it is
exciting. So with any good villain and his
hench men, there's always lots of fights, which is duh.
And you know, one of the things that was like kind of crazy was
that again with his obsession, Lex has studied Superman so much
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that he's coded every single oneof his moves.
And so those fight scenes are really interesting, right?
He's kind of talking to, I mean,spoiler alert, super clone
Ultraman. Ultraman Cloner, man.
Yeah, yeah. But the the interesting thing,
like kind of like what I was saying earlier was that I felt
like there the action Superman'saction sequences weren't very
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action Y in the beginning. It was a lot of him just like
saving squirrels, which save thesquirrels and, you know,
stopping buildings from falling on people.
But like he wasn't doing a lot of the destroying or or beating
up. Well, I don't think he should be
destroying I I well, and I the only reason why I say that is
because I do think there were some digs at the Man of Steel a
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little bit because one of the big critiques of the Man of
Steel was the final fart fart. The final fight with General Zod
and Superman. They'd like destroyed Metropolis
and everybody was like, oh, geez, like in a Superman film.
It's like how many people died in that?
A lot. And granted, it did play into
future movies, but they had kindof said something.
And one of the things that Superman kept doing in a lot of
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these fights was trying to save people and lessen the damage,
which I appreciate. And I think that a hero at the
caliber that Superman is has to be wary of those types of
things. And so for him to punch and
fight, he has to have enemies that he can punch and fight.
So having the Engineer and having Ultraman, I think was a
good choice because he can do things physically that he might
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not be able to do with like regular robbers, right?
The action sequences were interesting though, because I
felt like they were too close up.
Like it was a very interesting way to shoot the action.
I almost wanted them to pull back a little bit sometimes
because almost every action sequence was like right close
up. And I think if I could be wrong,
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but I'm pretty sure the person that did the Flash also did this
one and it made sense. And my head was like 01 of the
things I didn't like about the Flash was that.
And unfortunately that almost carried over in this.
That's that. That's like my biggest thing
with the fights. I maybe we'll get more
superhuman fights later on, but I think it was a good
introduction. Not.
Enough hot dogs. No.
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There was a baby. So there's also that similarity.
And in that fight scene, I completely agree.
I was. So they're in the pocket
universe and Superman is inside.I don't know what it was some
sort of, I don't know, Photon river or something like that.
And like I didn't really know what was going on.
Like he was kind of going down the river or into the black hole
and then out of the black hole. And then at some point he turned
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around in the black hole. So that being all super close
up, I felt like things got lost in in translation there.
But I mean, we did get to see the best boy.
No Crypto. Crypto yeah, his action
sequences were perfect and. Follows.
Crypto the best devil shit of a dog.
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I'd die for that dog. I hate him.
You know, the things that this movie has taught me is that
humans can be kind and they can be loving and that we should
treat animals with respect and love.
OK. Because Superman has shown me
all those things and crypto. Even though he might think T
spheres are just playthings, he's a good boy.
(24:05):
Yeah, he's great. I love the addition of crypto in
this movie. I think the changing of him was
fun, him being kind of rambunctious and untrained to
make sense because he's Cara, he's super girls dog and she's
very much on a Bender right now.So I don't think she trained
him, but I thought that it was great.
And also just the visual, like they've never included crypto.
(24:27):
I was going to say super dog crypto really in anything
because, you know, fear of it being too goofy and not really
working. I think it worked perfectly
fine. But you know, maybe it just took
a guy like James Gunn to come around and just be like, like, I
can do it. It's fine.
A dog? No problem.
I made you guys feel for a raccoon you.
(24:47):
Just have to go into it with confidence and also just not be
afraid. And I think that's exactly what
he did. I think crypto was a really
great addition to this and I think it added to that really
that comicy feeling of this movie, you know, just really the
the fun that can be had. And, and, and I again, I really,
(25:07):
really enjoy that. I really loved that in this
movie. I don't know, I can't explain
it. Like I felt like Superman's
Blues were Blues. His Reds were red, right?
They weren't dark and mysterious.
He's a good guy, right? He's got one single curl that
hangs from his head. I mean, he is.
He is also the goodest guy. It was actually really nice,
too, that we, I love Clark and Ilove that they, you know, did
(25:29):
little Easter eggs about his hypno glasses and stuff.
That's wild that we ever got that in film.
But we didn't really see a lot of Clark, which I feel like some
of the earlier adaptations, theyalways try to balance it.
And, you know, yeah, we need theClark stuff.
But I think the Clark stuff worked so well when we were with
Mom, Pop Kent and Lois. And I think we didn't need more.
(25:52):
I think it showed us this. He can be Clark, but Clark is
just as much a part of him as Superman is, and it's hard to
tell the difference sometimes. And I think that's the good sign
of understanding that character.But we got so much Superman in
this. It just felt.
It felt right. It felt right.
Yeah, I, you know, one thing I was thinking about, I was like,
(26:13):
man, they must think he is some great field reporter because he
is never in that office. He's just gone.
Nope. World is ending.
Gone. I like that Lois also was like,
even though she knew who he was at the beginning, I was like,
oh, no, we're going to have to. She's going to have to find out.
I was like, rolling my eyes, butshe knew.
And she was almost checking him when she was saying when he
(26:34):
came. And she was like, oh, you always
get these exclusive interviews with Superman.
Weird. It's like, yeah dude, chill out.
Yeah, he's like, that's what he told me.
Yeah, very good. Yeah, I just, I'm, I'm so
excited. I think the DCU looks bright.
I'm very interested to see whereit goes from here.
The only thing that does worry me, and I would love to be
(26:57):
proved wrong, is that like the next stuff that's coming is
interesting because it's not, you would think like it's
starting with Superman and we'regoing to get like, you know,
another bigger here or like maybe Mr. Terrific, it's a movie
or whatever. But like we're getting the
lanterns, which is fine. It's going to be fun, but it's
ATV show I'm trying to piece together, like why are we going
from here to here? But I don't know.
(27:19):
I'll trust the process. Yeah, it it is interesting,
right? You would think that this, this
film would be the springboard for these characters to move on.
But we're going to other characters.
Or even like bigger ones, you know, like Aquaman, Batman,
Wonder Woman, Flash, like I guess those are just going to be
down the line, right? And also, do they exist already?
But when I get when I hear TV series, I get nervous.
(27:42):
I get a little nervous. All right, final thoughts.
Final thoughts, just I haven't said this in a while.
What a romp I. Haven't said it in a while. 3
episodes ago. Not true, not true.
We were talking about The Last of Us, not a romp, not a romp,
just a lot of fun. And I felt like this, like this
(28:05):
is going to sound so cheesy, butlike, this is for the whole
family, right? This isn't just for dad who
collected superhero comics when he was a kid.
This isn't just for kids. And it's goofy.
Like this felt like there was something in it for everyone and
I really like that. Yeah, I agree.
I think it's a fantastic start to this new endeavour.
I hope it takes off and I hope we can get more of this because
(28:27):
I love these characters just as much as I love the MCU.
I just, I'm excited for the variety.
I'm excited for the difference difference of them and seeing
how it all connects. But yeah, I, I thought fantastic
cast, visually great man. What mortgage you want?
Super fun Superman. Super fun.
(28:48):
Let. Us know what you thought of
Superman and you know, not to like take it away from DC, but
the MCU, the next thing we're going to be doing is Fantastic
Four and very excited for that one.
I'm just letting you know what'scoming up.
It's fantastic. Four.
(29:09):
Oh. Noah has been singing Fantastic
Four like non-stop for no reasonalways.
It is my it's just like the vocal stem that is just
constantly in my head. And I just found out that the
Herbie popcorn bucket, when you put push the button, it sings
the Fantastic Four theme song. And you know what?
(29:31):
I'm getting that Herbie bucket so I don't have to sing it, but
Herbie can sing it. We're all really excited.
Goodbye.
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