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The pollen count is high and so are the emotions in this raw, unfiltered conversation between Victoria and Michael. Between sneezes and watery eyes, they dive into the grueling realities of advocacy work—the sleepless nights, endless paperwork, and emotional toll that comes with fighting for those who cannot fight for themselves.

Victoria opens up about a new family she's working with, revealing the complex dynamics involved in cases with multiple children and parents. Michael courageously shares his personal experience as a male survivor of domestic abuse, shedding light on the silent suffering many men endure when society tells them to "take it like a man." His powerful testimony offers hope to other men trapped in abusive relationships, affirming that escape and healing are possible.

The conversation shifts to frustrations with healthcare systems that make patients wait months for necessary surgeries while jumping through bureaucratic hoops. But the most passionate moments come when Victoria fiercely defends her daughter against narcissistic family members who show love only when it benefits them. Her maternal protectiveness ignites as she recounts how these individuals have repeatedly disappointed her daughter despite her unwavering love and desire for genuine connection.

A beautiful highlight emerges when Victoria shares a touching poem written by her daughter—a testament to resilience despite experiencing neglect and pain. This heart-to-heart reminds us that while we cannot choose our biological family, we can create supportive environments with people who truly value us. Listeners struggling with toxic relationships will find validation and encouragement in this authentically human episode about standing up for what's right, even when it's difficult.

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Speaker 1 (00:02):
how do y'all welcome to another episode of a
contagious smile unstoppable,with the lovely and sexy
victoria, whom doesn't thinkshe's sexy, and I say you're
wrong woman, whatever, becauseyou are okay, and michael that

(00:23):
guy.
So y'all have to forgive us.
We've had a lot of pollen herewhere we're at, and even though
we had some good rainstorms comethrough, we're still kind of
stuffy.
Our eyes are watering, ourthroat's itchy, so we might not
sound 100% Right now.
My wife's eyes are red andpuffy.
One lack of sleep because sheworks 32 hours a day, and two

(00:48):
all this dang pollen, not tomention one of our golden
retrievers scratched her eye.

Speaker 2 (00:54):
No, no, no, no, no.

Speaker 1 (00:55):
It was yours, specifically mine so.

Speaker 2 (01:01):
Your computer background is the Matrix.

Speaker 1 (01:04):
Yes, because I like the matrix.
Um kiana, if you want to comeon our show, please, uh, reach
out to us, have your people, getwith our people, and you know
we'll get you on the show, buddyI'll show, I'll share my cameo
space with him I would like itlike the other day.
Y'allall, she, the wife.

(01:25):
We're sitting at the dinnertable and she gets a freaking
video call or chat or whateverfrom none other than Lou Diamond
Phillips.
Like, are you freaking, kiddingme?
Lou Diamond Phillips calls mywife.
Okay, I'm not jelly in theslightest.

Speaker 2 (01:45):
What if it was James Spader?

Speaker 1 (01:48):
Oh, okay, that's all you.

Speaker 2 (01:50):
What if it was Jason Statham?

Speaker 1 (01:52):
Then hooray.

Speaker 2 (01:55):
Really Hooray, hooray .
So somehow or another,something new is I was asked by
Facebook to have a privatechannel Sorry, a public channel

(02:16):
and I could send out all sortsof new things and what's going
on, and yada, yada, yada, blah,blah, blah.
And yada, yada, yada, blah,blah, blah.
And I looked at like who elsehas channels and it was like um,
the actor from chicago pd whoplays hank boyd and if he not
that he would listen to this.
But he is so awesome in thisrole and he was also in gi jane.

(02:39):
He played demi moore'sboyfriend.
But, just as I always say, jamesspader was made for Raymond
Reddington.
This gentleman, his name isJason.
He is made for Hank Voight.
He's fabulous in his role, sohe has his own channel.
And then all of a sudden, likeFacebook asked if I wanted to do

(03:00):
it or I would do it.
So I'm just waiting on thesepeople to wake up and say who is
this woman and why.
I had someone say to meyesterday we read your article
about you in the magazine whereyou were in the main magazine
for we, and it was fascinatingand I was like shh, don't tell

(03:22):
anybody.

Speaker 1 (03:28):
They actually came up and said and I was just like.

Speaker 2 (03:29):
Interesting.
And they said you don't actlike you have any fame on you or
about you at all and I was likeI don't.

Speaker 1 (03:40):
I don't think I do, and we're still trying to get
her book into production.
Hopefully somebody will pick itup and make a movie out of it.

Speaker 2 (03:48):
Who kicked first it?

Speaker 1 (03:50):
would be a horror story To shed light on these
monsters, these abusers that areout there and what you know at
the time the victims, thesurvivors, what they go through.

Speaker 2 (04:03):
I don't think some people understand what advocates
go through Like and I'm tryingto hold back a sneeze, hold on,
so you take for a second.
I'm so sorry, warn yourself,turn down your volume if I start
sneezing.
So I mean advocates, like I gotto sneeze, you're going to have
to talk.
It's like right there.

Speaker 1 (04:24):
As an an advocate.
My wife puts in heart and soulinto these cases.
Uh, for the kids.
You know that that's the themain.
I'm gonna kind of cover the michere oh, it's right there look
at the light, uh.
So she puts in just gobs amountof hours and the research and

(04:44):
then rewriting stuff and thenyou know making presentations,
going for the courts, gettingrecords pulled, getting police
reports, talking to the DFAX andthe officers, whomever else is
involved.
So it's a lot on theseadvocates and kudos to y'all.

Speaker 2 (05:08):
If you're advocating for, uh, special needs or
children or domestic violencesurvivors, you know my wife
feels your pain well, you camein here the other night at like
what time was it four in themorning, and he walks in and he
says are you freaking, kiddingme?

(05:30):
You haven't been asleep, haveyou?
I was in here working and hewas like are you freaking,
kidding me?

Speaker 1 (05:39):
me, I'll go to.
I go to sleep on my dime ateight at night.

Speaker 2 (05:42):
Drop of a dime eight at night he'll go to.
He go to sleep on my dime Ateight at night.

Speaker 1 (05:45):
Drop of a dime Eight at night.

Speaker 2 (05:46):
He goes to sleep sooner than grandfathers and
great-grandfathers.
Like he goes to bed.
I ate dinner.
I'm full.
I don't even think he finishesthe sentence.
Hey, that actually made me feela little bit better, sorry.

Speaker 1 (05:59):
A hock-a-loogie now.
No A, what A?

Speaker 2 (06:01):
hock-to, that's if you're Jewish.
What is Hock a what?

Speaker 1 (06:08):
No Hock-a-loogie.

Speaker 2 (06:11):
Hock-a-loogie what it sounds like an island in Hawaii
.
Like, come on, I want to lay a.
Like what?
That's not an island, it is onGrumpy Old Men.
The old guy says, hey, want tocome have a pokey?
You want to come have a pokey,you want to have a, you know,
licky diggy.
That's where licky diggy camefrom.
You serious, yes, I love grumpyold man.
That's where it came from waslicky diggy.

(06:31):
You know all about licky diggy,keep it pg.
And that is what the greatgrandpa said.
He says come on, you want tolicky diggy.
You want, you want to go to theisland of.
You want to lay up?
Come on, I want to lay up he's.
I love them, they were awesome.
We don't have like actors likeJack Lemmon and Walter Matthau
anymore.
We don't have that like a stoic, you know, seasoned you got

(06:56):
Jack Burns who.

Speaker 1 (06:59):
Jack Burns from the Falkers.
Come on now.
You ever seen the meet theFalkers?
I tried to now.
You ever seen Meet the Falkers?

Speaker 2 (07:06):
I tried to make it through the whole thing but if I
can't get my movie made and youhave like Streisand and what's
his name on it.
Streisand was the mom, theFalker mom.

Speaker 1 (07:20):
Oh yeah.

Speaker 2 (07:21):
And then the daughter was Martha, yeah, yeah.
And then you had the dad, who Ialways confuse pacino and
deniro.
I always I don't know why yes,but we didn't like walter mathau
and jack lemon.
Jack lemon stayed besidewhichever, I don't remember who
was who, but they stayed besideeach other all the time when

(07:42):
they were sick and they werelike the best of friends.
And and then you have, likeSean Connery.
There are not actors like thatanymore.
They're just not, and it's sad.
I mean, who is rising intothose roles?
Like you know, I saw a pictureof Arnold Schwarzenegger the
other day and almost fell over.
I said, oh, is he playing Santa?
No, that's him.

(08:02):
He's almost fell over.
I said, oh, is he playing santa?
No, that's him.
He's in his late 70s orwhatever now.
And I'll be back.
Look like he was hoeing.
You know, like I thought, oh,he's playing a santa.
And no, that was him being him.
You know, he just got seriouslyaged.

Speaker 1 (08:16):
He's the same age as sly I bet sylvester's had a lot
of work done.

Speaker 2 (08:29):
Sylvester, you know, has paralysis in his lip and him
and Arnold had shoulder surgerythe same day, the same time,
and I'm trying to think.
But he's still making kick-assmovies.
Sly still does, but that's likesly and arnold are playing

(08:52):
roles at the age that jack lemonand walter mathau did and
they're nowhere.
I mean I like sylvesterstallone, I tolerate arnold
schwarzenegger, but like they'renot jack lemon and walter
mathau, they're not.
You know, they're not bettywhite.
We do not have a betty whiteanymore.
You can't, I can't even come upwith someone who's relatively
close to a betty white.
Nobody, I mean they're just not.

(09:16):
She was a legend in her own, Imean just a class act.
Okay, I'm sure nobody wants tolisten to us talk about
hollywood yeah.

Speaker 1 (09:23):
so those of y'all who have been waiting on the
podcast powerhouse courses thatmy wife and so Dylan do work on,
we found an era that I did.
I own my mistakes and we are we.
She is going back andcorrecting them and it's taken a
lot of man, woman, hours, okay.

(09:44):
So please be patient.
If you look for those courses,classes coming out, and let me
tell you from what I saw, shehas added probably 20, something
more since the last time I wentthrough them.
I don't know, am I wrong?

Speaker 2 (10:00):
no, there's four collections and you have a
collection for people that, ifyou want to talk about them we
have one is just for powerhousepodcast and social media growth,
where it tells you and teachesyou all the ins and outs,
because we have no employees,like it's all in-house, it's

(10:25):
done in this office and theclasses teach that.
And my husband, of course, doesnot go eye to eye with me on
the fact that I have them pricedso low, because there are
classes I've seen classes outthere that are like several
thousand dollars and ours arenot.

(10:46):
I think we don't buy.
I don't want to misquote, but Imean none of our classes are
anywhere near even a hundreddollars.
Like they're not priced thathigh at all.
Most of them are under 50.
I think almost all of them are.
And then we have the uh safehaven phoenix center, where it's
for survivors of any type ofabuse and how to get or continue

(11:11):
on your road of healing and howto help rebuild that beautiful
inner light from within.
And so that is that collection.
And then we have LimitlessRecovery Tribe, which is for
anyone in any type of recovery,and what people don't realize is
that you're probably inrecovery and don't even realize

(11:33):
it, like you and I are both inrecovery from abuse.
You know whether it'snarcissistic recovery,
narcissistic abuse recovery,domestic violence recovery.
You know it could be a slew ofdifferent things.
You know alcoholism there'scourses in there for people who

(11:54):
have lost loved ones by suicideor lost by addiction.
You know recovering from thedeath of a loved one there.
There's a whole bunch of thingsin there that really help you,
uh, get back up and dustyourself off, if you will, and

(12:15):
help you in this road.
And then my my baby project mybaby baby project because it's
stucco, is the Stucco Squad andI love it because I wish I write
these courses, thinking this issomething I want to do.
When I was little Like, I wish Ihad these fun things to do.

(12:38):
When I was little, like lastnight I did life skills for
tween queens and then lifeskills for tween boys, who you
have, the tween queens and thenyou have the king's court, which
I think are adorable, and eachof them have their own chat room
so you can go in there and makefriends and you can meet new

(13:02):
people.
And the classes are so fun anduplifting and none of them are.
When the kids hear classes orcourses they think, oh, it's
like school.
It is not like school.
There are each my husbandhasn't looked at like I don't
think any of these.
Each one has a fun activity todo and each one ends.

(13:22):
Each lesson ends with amotivational quote to help you
realize what a superstar you areand there's so much fun.
And then there's even one aboutlike the division are living,
your two homes, only one you.
I just did that one two daysago where it talks about how

(13:47):
some of these beautiful kidsthey're living week to week,
from parent to parent or everyother weekend and they're living
out of a suitcase.
And you know what my heartbreaks for these kids, because
these kids are used as pawnsmore often than not between
parents.
And that course specificallyhelps you realize and go through

(14:11):
the motions and figure out youknow that you are not the bad
one, that you're amazing, getmore acclimated and settled in
to the two different placesyou're domiciled in and how you
can kind of make it better andeasier for you, not for the
parents, but for you as thechild or young adult.
And so there's all thosecourses that really there's

(14:35):
something in there for everyonethat they can relate to.
It's written with love andempathy and compassion.
You know you can just feel thatit's not like a textbook
excerpt that's just thrown inthere.
It's real upbeat and upliftingand it adds there's a lot of

(14:56):
character in it.

Speaker 1 (14:57):
So y'all just stand by as she finishes mistakes,
airs up and then I own it, I, Idid it, it's.
It'll be coming soon.
She's got a lot on her plateright now.

Speaker 2 (15:10):
That's an understatement.
So I have a new family I'mworking with.
Go ahead, sorry.

Speaker 1 (15:17):
Just be patient.

Speaker 2 (15:18):
I have a new family that I'm working with and the
Kids have grabbed.
All of the kids I work withgrab my heart.
Some of them grab it muchtighter, and the family that I'm
working with has more than asoftball league team of kids.

(15:40):
Isn't that right about right?
Yeah, close.
And there are so many factorsin this that there's multiple,
multiple did I mention multiplefathers.
And you know, all I can sayabout this is this is one of

(16:01):
those 1% cases that it's wherethe male is the victim and
survivor of abuse, and I cannotand won't give specifics about
the case, but I think for thelast two weeks I don't know, on
average every night it's, I mean, I've been at a drop of a dime

(16:25):
where I'm like I got to go andI'm on my way to the hospital,
and that's been more than once,and let's see six eight-hour
days, 10-hour days, workingsolely on this.
But some of the people in thisare so amazing and so full of
love and the like, talking aboutsome of the grandparents and,

(16:50):
and you know, there there's somepeople that are so sweet and
loving and it's such an honor.
I just hate how we've come intopaths with one another, Like
one, if you've read who KickedFirst or if you haven't.
There's an excerpt in the bookfrom a memory where I was in a

(17:13):
store.
I was very pregnant.
I was in a store and I was justtotally disfigured.
I had black and blue eyes, Iwas in a sling, my nose had been
broken, my jaw had beendislocated.
I just didn't look human, ifyou will.
And I am in the store and I hada woman asked if she could come
up and say something to me andshe did.

(17:35):
And she said to me you are themost beautiful pregnant woman
I've ever seen.
And I kind of hid my hair overmy face and said I'm so sorry
and she's like not that way andshe's like in your heart.
And she was like.
It just resonates and I'vementioned this story to my
husband.
I don't even know many times andhow much that woman just made

(17:58):
my day and made me feelvalidated and visible, Because
so many people who've beenthrough abuse knows that you
feel invisible.
You don't feel like you'reworthy or valid in any way to
anyone except the playground ofyour attacker, who uses you as
their punching bag.
Excuse me so this one lady thatI'm honored to have met and

(18:22):
become a part of in thisunfortunate event reminds me of
that exact person, and I toldher that the other day, and I
really believe, though I do knowfor a fact it wasn't her.
It could have been someone whowas her twin.
I'm gonna let him talk for me.

Speaker 1 (18:40):
I'm about to go to a coughing spell so why said she
the wife mentioned that this isa one percent that the male is
the victim in this instance.
I personally came from anabusive relationship in my
second marriage where I keptsilent, as most of us men do.

(19:02):
We keep silent, we bottle it up, you know, as everybody tells
us to.
You know, you're a man, take itlike a man Shut up, you know.
So what, what does that do forus men?

(19:25):
Well, it, it numbs us, sort of,but when we bottle it up, uh,
sort of.
But when we bottle it up, therethere's only so much room that
that we can put inside of us.
You know, and as the years wenton and I kept ignoring it and
and I kept denying it, um, I gotworse as as a human being.
Um, I got worse as as a humanbeing.

(19:49):
Okay, when I would come home orto the house and I would open
the front door and I would seethe second wife in the kitchen,
uh, my countenance would drop.
I would just, I would just, Iwould change and I've spoken
with my wife over my, my currentwife here, my last and my
soulmate over the years, and shehas recorded me um, how I was

(20:13):
back then, and it is such a.
To me it's, it's a differentperson.
Uh, it it's so soulless, reallylifeless, to hear myself and
how depressed I sounded, how youknow despondent I was.
I was like you know, just hey,someone just shot my puppy.

(20:34):
I'm lost, I've lost everythingin the house fire.
I just sounded miserable, andy'all because I kept ignoring it
.
Um, as the victim, I wouldn'tspeak up.
I didn't want to listen toanyone, y'all.
It got bad.
I did to.

(20:54):
You know where I was drinking onthe job and, sorry to say, I
was not a cop at the time.
Uh, this was after what I wasdrinking.
Oh no, that's not true, becauseI did drink on the job as a cop
.
As a cop, okay, I do notcondone that, and I was wrong
for that.
I do recall, yes, with wife one, no two, okay, and it got so

(21:27):
bad that I would go to work withliquor in my coffee and then,
well, hell with it.
I just brought a flask to workwith Crown April, you know.
And every day after work, everyone of us would go out to our
pickup trucks and every one ofus had a cooler with beer in
there and we'd pop a beer in theparking lot and then drive, uh

(21:49):
to the the bar right down thestreet.
But yeah, um guys, you don'thave to live with it.
You don't have to live with it.
You hear me, you don't have tolive with it.
Okay, if she's got financialcontrol over you, you can start
breaking away.
My wife has several coursesbooks out there that teach

(22:23):
survivors how to start planningtheir escape.
Am I right?
As my wife's yawning?
Yes, my wife's been up for manyhours and these allergies are
just killing us.
So I shouldn't say killing us,but they're making us miserable.
I've been snoring at night.
I wake up, she's snoring overthere and my wife don't snore.
It's just because of thecongestion and allergies.

Speaker 2 (22:42):
My eyes were glued shut this morning.
Yeah, they were swollen shutand now she's here.
Guys, I'm outside for hours andhours every day with this
family and it's nobody's fault.
It's just how it's turning.
You know, it's how it's workingout.

(23:04):
Right to one of the cute littlekids that I'm honored to be
working with said I look like apuffer fish.
That was it was cute, but alittle like.
Yeah, thanks, appreciate it,he's like just a little bit.

(23:25):
He's so stinking cute, thatlittle kid.
I was like, see this, this iscalled pollen.
He was like you look like apuffer fish.
So, yep, it's not pretty.

Speaker 1 (23:41):
Anyway, that's just all I want to say on the 1%, on
the guys.
You know you don't have to livewith it, you can get out of it.
Guys, you know you don't haveto live with it, you can't get
out of it.
And I promise you, from myperspective it's been so much
better, like a bazillion timesbetter, to be out of that
relationship, to be away fromthat.

Speaker 2 (24:02):
Would you ever get married again?

Speaker 1 (24:03):
Abuser To you.

Speaker 2 (24:06):
To anyone else?
Yes to you, Only you.
No, anybody other than me.

Speaker 1 (24:10):
In fact, I think we have another wedding date coming
up very soon.
No, we don't.
Yes, we do.

Speaker 2 (24:15):
No, we don't.
Yeah, we do.
What are you talking about?

Speaker 1 (24:17):
We've got another date coming up.

Speaker 2 (24:20):
Would you care to explain?
Yes, every year this is goingto get good guys we're.

Speaker 1 (24:26):
This is going to get good guys and the other one to
remarry them Correct, getremarried, correct, and then we
get new wedding rings Right, andwhat date is this newlywed
thing?
No, no, no.

Speaker 2 (24:42):
You said when we got married the first time that you
wanted us to stay newlywedsforever.
And I said what did you do withStucco, because I don't know
where he went?
And you said, yes, I'll callour minister.
And she'll be like, yep, youdid.
And so I asked you last yearand planned the big party and
the wedding and even brought inAbby from the other side of

(25:07):
where she is, the other side ofwhere she is and your dad to be
here for the wedding.
And that was on your 50thbirthday, which is just around
the corner when you climb upanother ring on that ladder.
So you are, our newlywedterminology will be nolan boyd

(25:33):
here in just mere weeks if youdon't piss or get off the pot
and talk to our minister andhave rings I haven't waited to
the last minute before you wereless than 12 hours from losing
the title in newlywed One year.
Less than 12 hours.

Speaker 1 (25:53):
I like to keep you in suspense.

Speaker 2 (25:56):
Yeah, no.

Speaker 1 (26:02):
No no.

Speaker 2 (26:06):
No.
So how do you get bugs notbeing in the house?
How do you get rid of bugs inthe house?
Do you get rid of bugs in thehouse?
Are you serious?

Speaker 1 (26:11):
yeah, I'm serious you ask your husband nicely to go
spray every day.

Speaker 2 (26:16):
You're like babe, can you remind me tomorrow?
So I will spray.
And I say sure I'll remind you.
And I'm like babe, did youspray?
You gotta spray.
I'll do it tomorrow.
You know I'll do it tomorrow.
You know I'll do it tomorrow.
We have so much.
Can I get Kayla up here for?
This yeah, it's called a gamecontroller and sleep.

Speaker 1 (26:41):
Well, of course we're going to have a nap.

Speaker 2 (26:43):
A nap is singular.
A nap is singular.
There's grass to cut.
Many naps is plural.
There are times you have hadthree and four.

Speaker 1 (26:53):
Hello.

Speaker 2 (26:58):
There are times you've had three and four.

Speaker 1 (27:00):
She went, space cadet there?

Speaker 2 (27:02):
No, because I mentioned Kayla, not Faith, and
I'm talking about that otherfriend, and that's why we're
talking about our other friend.
And I can get faith up here too.
And faith will tell you one napis singular, but there are days
where you do three and four andfive.
You've gone five naps in oneday.

(27:25):
I'll call faith Five naps.
You have had five naps in a day.
She's just going to play offyou.
Are you ready?
I'll tell you, I'll call Faith.
Five naps.
You have had five naps in a day.
She's just going to play offyou.

Speaker 1 (27:32):
Are you ready?
I'll tell you.

Speaker 2 (27:33):
I'll tell you when they were oh, you know, I do
know, you know my memoryAbsolutely In the car on the way
to one of my surgeries.
When we arrived, you fellasleep in the waiting area
before I went back arrived, youfell asleep in the waiting area

(27:56):
before I went back.
You were brought back prior tome going into post-op or pre-op
and you fell asleep standing up.
Oh, that's great then when wearrived back here for my surgery
, I came in and went straight towork and you went back and took
a nap four.
Then in the afternoon, later inthe afternoon, you had too much
to eat.
You said I had too much to eat,I have to go take an old man
nap five, and I'm not evencounting going to sleep for the

(28:18):
night and I know if I get on myphone and see if kayla is home
or if she's out and about on herphone and arcel, I can see
where she is and she'll say thesame thing.
Or or we can call our daughter,faith, up here and you can ask
her, because I've told everybodyhe had five flippin' naps.
I have surgery.

Speaker 1 (28:40):
What can I say?
I'm a superhero.
Five naps, yes.

Speaker 2 (28:44):
You have more sleep in one nap than I get in
overnight.
And how many?

Speaker 1 (28:49):
guys out there are going to argue your side.
What's wrong with a nap?

Speaker 2 (28:56):
I welcome it.
I need a good debate.
Let's talk about theincompetency of Okay.
Okay.
So when you I am advocating foran individual who has been

(29:17):
misdiagnosed and when I spoke tothe chair of the division of
the hospital, I was informedthat I would be called back.
It was done on a friday andthey said they'd call it a
Monday.
That did not happen.
That is now.

Speaker 1 (29:36):
Three months later.

Speaker 2 (29:38):
No, it's 11 weeks tomorrow.
That's almost three months,right?
So then I talked to patientadvocacy and they say well, we
need to get x, y and z okay.
Well, don't you think you needto get consent as well from the

(30:01):
patient?
And I could have had jane bagof donuts right there, say, that
was who they were.
And they don't even verifythese people.
The health care system isscrewed up.
Number one, number twoinsurance cares more and makes

(30:22):
you go through more hoops thananything I've ever seen in my
life.
If you need something like whenI have to have a surgery, why
is it I have to wait months toget on the calendar.
It's not like I'm getting aboob job.
Okay, this is a necessaryoperation, but you're in pain
and they make you wait foreverto get it done.

Speaker 1 (30:46):
For the record, my wife does not need a boob job
I've had a breast reduction.

Speaker 2 (30:50):
I openly state it was one of the best things ever.
Ever after my shoulder wasreplaced, they said the boulder
holder ain't gonna work, soyou're gonna have to get sucked.
I was, yeah, I'm availableright now.
I don't know why men think thatbig-breasted women, you carry

(31:13):
those things around.
It is not pleasant.
And here's what I don't get.
A breast is nothing but fat.
It's just fat with a nipple onit.
That's all it is.
But men are like well, yougotta have big boobs, but you
gotta be like tiny everywhereelse.
Well, if you like big boobs,why don't you like bigger women?
If you want the boobs big,right, or they're going to be

(31:36):
fake.
Tiny, little framed peopledon't have big kahunas Like.
They're just kazuntas, whateveryou want to call them, they
don't.
So when I ended up going andgetting a breast reduction,
they're like also, you get alift right, this is so exciting
for this surgery Finally one I'mhappy about.
And they're like we lift you.
And I'm, you know, naive.

(31:56):
And I was like what do you mean?
Well, we lift you so you Anever have to wear a bra again,
ah, ah, woohoo.
And B you'll never havefurniture disease where your
chest goes into your drawers andthey droop right, so you never
have to worry about them sagginginto your bridges.
Because as you get older, youknow, the boobs start sagging.
Well, when you get a reductionand you get lifted, they don't,

(32:19):
which is a beautiful thing.
And then, like big breastedwomen know this, when you lay on
your back, they flop onto theside.

Speaker 1 (32:28):
What was that they do ?
They what Flop?
What was that animated sound?
Why they do it's like breakingglass?

Speaker 2 (32:36):
They could right.
I mean they literally just flopover.
I've never heard a titty go.
Why did you use that word?

Speaker 1 (32:45):
Because that's what they are.

Speaker 2 (32:46):
No.

Speaker 1 (32:47):
It's a breast, don't say boobs.

Speaker 2 (32:53):
That just sounds funny.
I hate that word.
No, booby.
No, the other one, oh, but it'strue, no.
So when I had my reduction, Iwas so I wanted to be flatter.
I was like no, I want to besmaller, nope is this show about
your?
boobs.
I'm just saying, that's whatI'm saying.

(33:14):
Why is it?
When you need to have a surgery, you have to wait forever to
get it done, and that's notright, that's not fair.
And then they make you jumpthrough hoops.
Perfect example is that I hadto go through all this rigmarole
malarkey to get this thing.
It's like aa-roll malarkey toget this thing.
It's like a pacemaker thatthey're gonna put in me.
And they make you go throughall of this crap in order to get

(33:37):
insurance approval while you'restill in agony.
So then they put in a temporaryone to see how you handle it.
Then they yank it out of you inthe office the temporary one.
And then you schedule and youhave to like rip the band-aid
off, deal with all of it again,and then go back and get the
real one, the permanent one,whatever, and where do you want

(34:00):
it?
It's going to look like alittle pocket underneath your
skin, right.
Stop, don't you?
Even so, my husband's trying tolike why are you shaking your
legs?

Speaker 1 (34:10):
Because I'm thirsty and my throat hurts.
I'll go fetch you something.

Speaker 2 (34:13):
No, we have to cut this short Because, like my eyes
are watering, I'm coughing.
I don't want my friends andfamily that listen to this,
because everybody who listens,we're one big happy family Going
holy Toledo.
Victoria, like you know, youcough and it's like you.
No need for ear test today.
I don't want to do that to them.

(34:34):
That's not fair I care aboutour listeners.
I care for our listeners.
Yes, because, by the way, happyeaster to everybody oh yeah,
happy easter.
We totally forgot that one.
However.
My husband got Easter gifts,faith got Easter gifts.

Speaker 1 (34:52):
How do you know it was Easter?

Speaker 2 (34:53):
Do you?

Speaker 1 (34:54):
know when.

Speaker 2 (34:54):
Christmas is.

Speaker 1 (34:56):
Yes, it's this year.
Do you know about?

Speaker 2 (34:58):
Valentine's.

Speaker 1 (34:59):
Yes.

Speaker 2 (34:59):
My birthday.
Yes, case closed.
You're pretty smart.
Oh, I don't know why peoplethink I'm not seriously.
Uh-huh, yep, so are youspraying tonight?
Yes I have it recorded now.
Yep, are you beautiful?

(35:22):
No, and our oldest just lied.
I did not.
Beauty's in the eye of thebeholder.
I'm looking and I havetrifocals at you and I have
trifocals, so I really Look, Ihave trifocals and all three
agree.
However, our oldest is legal inlike a few hours.

Speaker 1 (35:41):
Legal is 18.

Speaker 2 (35:42):
21 to drink Legal.

Speaker 1 (35:44):
To drink, yeah Is 21.
Yeah, okay, there's adifference.

Speaker 2 (35:50):
Damn, you're old.
I am old, but you're like afine wine.
Not Sean Connery fine wine, butlike a fine wine he's shaken
instead.

Speaker 1 (35:58):
I'm a fine wine yeah you know, Is that wine at the
dentist?

Speaker 2 (36:03):
No, you're a pure P word at the dentist.
You're a wuss.
Go get this thing done.
That they just did to my backand see how you handle it.
Yeah.

Speaker 1 (36:16):
So the reason for all these surgeries that my wife's
having.
You may ask why, victoria, areyou having all these freaking
surgeries?
Well, pop over to Amazon andpick up our first book.
Oh Lord, it's called who KickedFirst, by Victoria Curie.

Speaker 2 (36:33):
Here's something my husband doesn't understand the
protocol and timeliness of theexecutive function chain.
No matter how many people heasks, they all tell him that the
president is under the founderand CEO.
So that makes you under me, andso, with that being said, I
need to move you into marketing.
So maybe you can start doingsome of the marketing, because I

(36:56):
do all of it.

Speaker 1 (36:57):
I'm just saying I have no problem being on top.

Speaker 2 (37:01):
I thought this was PG rating.

Speaker 1 (37:03):
You said I was under you.

Speaker 2 (37:05):
As president.
I designated you as president.
I brought you as president.
I designated you as president.

Speaker 1 (37:11):
I brought you in as president, so you can't be over
me, because this has been mycompany since inception of 2006.

Speaker 2 (37:24):
Now it's mine, no, it's ours.

Speaker 1 (37:25):
But I'm the founder and CEO.
Great, wonderful, tell themabout your books.
I don't have to, I've got you.
Wonderful, tell them about yourbooks.

Speaker 2 (37:29):
I don't have to, I've got you for that.

Speaker 1 (37:31):
You've got 41 books.

Speaker 2 (37:32):
They're not all out at Amazon.
No, they're different placesand some of them have they're
out, but some of them are notfor sale at this point because I
use them.

Speaker 1 (37:40):
But you can finish or publish all of them.

Speaker 2 (37:42):
See how men always want to finish first, and you
want to finish first and youteach people how to publish
their books.

Speaker 1 (37:54):
Yes, why do men always want to finish first?

Speaker 2 (37:56):
I don't know what all men do I just know what I do
what do you do?

Speaker 1 (37:59):
I'm a certified certifiable no, no, I'm a
certified cunnilinguist and Imake sure my woman is pleasured
to the utmost are you talkingabout countries?
What what woman what?

Speaker 2 (38:19):
you said this was supposed to be pg.
This shirt is so perfect foryou.
This shirt is so perfect foryou.
I have a short attention span.
I just saw oh wait, look asquirrel.
Faith got that for you.
Oh, can we just say Faith wroteme a poem within five minutes.

(38:41):
Where is it?
Where's my purse?
Where's my purse?
Ha, ha, I'm going to read it.
No, you know, yeah, I ha, I'mgoing to read it.
No, you know, yeah, I am, I'mgoing to read it.
Hold on, let me get it Okay.

Speaker 1 (38:54):
You don't stand by until she gets this poem.

Speaker 2 (38:57):
My mom.

Speaker 1 (38:59):
Yeah, y'all just remember, this is my daughter.

Speaker 2 (39:02):
Listen, nutbag, this is my daughter.
My bag, no, she is my daughter.

Speaker 1 (39:07):
She's become my bag.
No.

Speaker 2 (39:11):
She's my heart as the world looked down upon her.
Unsafe, neglected, and pain isin her mind.
Yet she pushes it back.
She hides it For the one thatshe loves.

(39:34):
You see, she has been pained,yes, she has been neglected, yes
, she has been bruised andscarred and all in between.
But her hope still lies withinthose few in her walls.
Her husband, who is a pain todeal with, has sweet moments.

(40:03):
He's been loving her for over20 plus years.
Her sweet child, who's stubbornyet loyal, has always been her
number one fan.
Her life was hell rollercoaster if must.
But yet behind those walls arethe people who keep her grounded

(40:27):
and supported and in spite ofthe many letdowns, she had
always rised back up like aphoenix because those that
support her broke, scarred.
They supported her, broke herand scarred her.
Yet she flies and the ones whoshe knows and are behind that

(40:50):
wall will eternally stay by hersign.
For her to write that and shewrote it in like three minutes,
and Faith has never read whoKicked First.
Faith knows of a bad man whohurt mommy, and not way too much

(41:18):
more than that.
She has seen scars that cannotbe hidden and she doesn't know
the stories behind them.
But for her To Write somethingfrom her heart like that Chokes
me up, because she's so amazing.

(41:41):
She is so amazing.
I can't believe that I.

Speaker 1 (41:48):
No I in T.

Speaker 2 (41:50):
There's no I in T.
There's no I in asshole.
I cannot believe how amazingshe is, because she has fought
and overcome more in her lessthan 21 years of life than most

(42:11):
people have in 10 lifetimes, anda contagious smile was built
around her.
And my greatest honor in thisentire world is being her mom,
because she is a smart ass.
She is a ray of light in thedarkest night.
She is hope when you have none.

(42:33):
She is amazing, she is thegreatest gift and anyone who has
been around her for fiveminutes is better because of it.
And the sorry pieces of shit inand has been in her life, who
are so self-centered andnarcissistic that their head is

(42:54):
so far in their ass that theyhave allowed negativity to
transpire between them and Faith, when Faith didn't do anything
but try to love you.
You all can go to hell.
I'm just saying you know thenarcissistic people who gave her

(43:15):
her word and his word that theywould never, ever hurt her or
not be there for her or turntheir backs on her for her or
turn their backs on her andwould never stop loving her and
did all of the above can go tohell, and if they want to like

(43:39):
be negative about me.
I'll tell you where you canemail me and you can write me.
If you go against my child andyou make empty promises to her
and you lie to her face and youcuss her out and you say all
these hurtful, nasty things,then you are a worthless piece
of shit, because this kid, sincefour years of age, has done

(44:02):
nothing but try to help otherpeople.
She has fundraised since theage of four.
She has loved people who do notdeserve to be in her presence
for 30 bleeping seconds.
She has always been thereunconditionally for people.
She has always loved thesepeople without asking for a

(44:26):
thing back, and in turn, thesepeople use her maliciously and
walk all over her until theydidn't think they could get
anything else out of her.
And that was it.
This is a beautiful, giftedyoung lady who has so much love
to give, has the biggest heartof anyone I've ever met in my

(44:47):
life, and even her hugs wrapyour heart.
There's no way to look at thatbeautiful face and not just melt
when you see her and thesepeople and there's a few, I can
name a few, and I would like tohear what my husband has to say,
because I really already know.
I would like to hear what hehas to say about this, like to

(45:07):
hear what my husband has to say,because I really already know.
I would like to hear what hehas to say about this.
These people no, no, no,because I have no problem.
I won't like shelter in placeabout it, I won't filter it
these people who said I willnever, ever do this to you.
I will be there for you, I loveyou.
And she says all I want is agrandfather, all I want is a
grandmother, all I want iswhatever.

(45:30):
I don't want anything from you.
I don't want your money, Idon't want your anything.
I want time and I want to loveyou and that's what she asks for
.
And we have people, not just onmy side.
At least I can say not that fora millisecond.
I want to defend my sperm andegg donor.
They never cussed her out.
They've done a lot, but theynever cussed her out.

(45:56):
There have been other people inthose roles that have, and she
did nothing to them.
And she laid up in a hospitalbed and they said she wouldn't
make it through the night.
She laid up in a hospital bedand they said she wouldn't make
it through the night, and shedid.
She was in complete organfailure.
She was getting a kidneytransplant.

(46:17):
I started the process to giveher mine, my husband started the
process, then we went throughthe adoption and none of these
people could do so much as tosend a congratulations, a thank
you, a kiss.
My ass, nothing, nothing butthe minute oh, you got spam mail

(46:40):
or whatever else.
The reason is, today that'sdifferent, because it's about
them.
That is the pure definition ofnarcissism at its finest.
What do I know?
I don't have education in it,right?
I'm uneducated, right, like Idon't know anything about
narcissism.
I don't know anything aboutabuse.
I don't know anything aboutcounseling people who've gone

(47:01):
through this, even though everysingle one of these people have
had me help them in those exactarenas.
I've helped every single one ofthese people who have hurt our
daughter, which makes me anidiot, because I try to do the
right thing and help them, andit's been every single one of

(47:24):
them, and I've tried and triedto help them and I did, and we
didn't want anything from itbecause they were supposed to be
family.
But when it came to our kid, oreven my amputation, which I
don't care because it was aboutme and I don't care, but my

(47:45):
amputation happened to me, butit also happened to my husband
and it happened to my daughter.
Their mom and their wife losttheir arm, lost the arm and not
even so much as a reach out,however, you can get told well,
she has another arm.
She could have called us right,because I'm not a carpet, even
though most people because I'mnot a carpet, even though most

(48:07):
people and my husband has saidthis for far too long that I
have a very bad habit of lettingpeople walk all over me and I
let them take advantage of me,and I do it because I have a big
heart and I don't say a word.
I just let it keep happening.
But when you hurt our daughter,it's now my daughter and it's

(48:27):
now me.
And when these people whodefine the terminology of
narcissism want to artificially,at the time, love her when it's
advantageous materialisticallyfor them, they can kiss my ass.

(48:52):
Period, bold italic highlighted.
And if they have an issue, youcan reach out to me on my email.
I would say it, but I don'tthink you're smart enough to
write it down.
I can spell it out for you sothat you don't make the mistake
that you couldn't spell my nameright to begin with, and that's
not me degrading them, that'snot me belittling them, that's

(49:13):
me being truthful, because Ihave letters of writing where
not even the names are spelledcorrectly, of their own kin.
So I am sticking up for what isright, and now I'm going to let
you say what you have to say,and he's going to say something
like I agree with her, she saidher, speak, or whatever.
Defend your daughter, defendwhat's right, say your piece

(49:39):
about it no, I think we prettymuch said enough.
I knew you were going to saythat I knew it you did perfect.

Speaker 1 (49:48):
I love to see her get fired up.
She's so hot and sexy.
I think we're pretty much saidenough.
I knew you were going to saythat.
I knew it.
You did perfect.
I love to see her get fired up.
She's so hot and sexy.
But she's mine.
She's my wife.
I love her for it.
No, I didn't leave her when shehad her arm amputated.
No, I haven't left her over theI don't know God, 20,
30-something surgeries over thepast four years that I've seen

(50:11):
her go through.
No, I love her and I know sheloves me.
You're pointing at our daughter.
Yeah, I don't like to thinkabout how many surgeries she's
been through.

Speaker 2 (50:28):
What about how people have treated her?

Speaker 1 (50:30):
Well, that's already in the past.
Did something spark this today?

Speaker 2 (50:35):
I'm just saying in general, like we reach out to
the people to make sure they'reokay and they don't even respond
to us, but then somethinghappens with her and they don't
say anything.

Speaker 1 (50:48):
Well, yeah, we know they're a piece of shit.
I mean, it's not just familymembers, it's also friends.

Speaker 2 (50:54):
Well, I don't call them friends anymore, but I'm
saying I watch the pain in herface because all she wants to do
is love these people and thesepeople don't know whether to
itch their watch or whine theirass.
And I know she wants to feelvalidated by having us say
something on her behalf, becauseshe just wanted to love them.

Speaker 1 (51:15):
She knows we do.

Speaker 2 (51:16):
Right, she's talking about them.

Speaker 1 (51:19):
She knows we do.
We stick up for our kids.
That's what we do as parents.

Speaker 2 (51:27):
Obviously, I'm the vocal one.
Sometimes, If you could say anyone thing to these people, what
would you say?

Speaker 1 (51:36):
Whatever you're going to say to them, they have to
speak up first.
They have to come to us.

Speaker 2 (51:44):
If they did, would you forgive them?
I don't need to forgive themthat's not what I asked you,
though it's up to y'all if theycame to you and asked if you
would forgive them, what wouldyou say?

Speaker 1 (51:58):
I don't know yet, I really don't know, but they need
to come to y'all first.

Speaker 2 (52:07):
And you know that'll never happen.

Speaker 1 (52:09):
You and our little girl are the ones they offended
first and foremost.

Speaker 2 (52:14):
But you know they're not going to.
They've lost out on the mostamazing girl they could have
ever had in their life.
Yeah.

Speaker 1 (52:25):
Yep, here in a few hours could have ever had in
their life.
Yeah, you know, here in a fewhours we'll try to reach out to
our son, wish him a happybirthday Only first birthday, so
I think this was a good episode.

(52:48):
Yeah, that a child fired up.
I'm very fired up yeah, she'sthe vocal one.
I'm the guy in the backgroundwho y'all have to watch out for

(53:08):
more.
No, no, no.
Here's the difference.
Hold on, no, no, no, I'm notnoisy, hold on.

Speaker 2 (53:14):
First of all, I'm not noisy, I'm deaf, and so I speak
louder I have hearing aids toofine, but what, what?
What spike mike?
What did you call me?

Speaker 1 (53:31):
I have hearing aids too.

Speaker 2 (53:33):
I have 90% hearing loss in one ear and 100% in the
other.

Speaker 1 (53:38):
You don't wear your hearing aids.

Speaker 2 (53:39):
What Exactly?
I am the quiet one.
I never yell, I don't scream, Idon't curse, I don't disrespect
you don't curse, Not atsomebody.

Speaker 1 (53:51):
On this show alone you said the word ass a hundred
times.

Speaker 2 (53:54):
I'm referencing a person, it's an adjective, it's
a discriminatory word thatexplains how stupid somebody is.
And I don't say stupid as amental intellect.
I'm telling them a place theycould go visit, first of all and
second.
I'm not saying stupid as ifit's a disability or a challenge
.
I'm saying because their headsand their ass.
There's a difference.
And here's the difference.
I'm the quiet one until you dosomething to hurt a child or

(54:17):
someone I love.
But here's the thing.
You've seen me argue.
Well, it's not really anargument, can't really say
debate.
Like when Faith was in thehospital and I fired the nurse
and the other nurses were in thehall watching, right, seriously
, I can't tell you how manytimes people are like I wouldn't
want to be on her, against her,like I don't want to be on the
side of her Right no-transcript.

(54:49):
And the other people who onlycome around when they need stuff
and they talk about you as ifyou're some dirty carpet the
rest of the time.
You know that's the wholedefinition of narcissist.
They can never admit they'rewrong.
They can never admit they'vedone anything wrong.
They cannot be accountable foranything.
It's always someone else'sfault.

(55:10):
Poor, pity me.
Blah, blah, blah.
When have you ever heard me say,oh my God, I'm so tired I'm not
going to work.
I go into bed and work and youdon't ever hear me say I can't.
I tell you I got to go getstuff done.
The minute we're done eating,I'm up here working.
I got to get stuff done.
You're like babe, can't youtake 10 minutes and just sit
with me?
I got stuff to do.
I got to work, I got to getstuff done.

(55:31):
Right, that's accountabilitywhen you purposely, maliciously
hurt somebody who has donenothing but try to take care of
you and be there for you and allthey want to do is talk about
you and like slander you andthen what they say about other
people, you and then what theysay about other people.

(55:52):
They like the, the podcast thatI have that I've never released
.
I won't release them because Idon't want to hurt the kids.
I will never hurt the kids butit would destroy them.
But I won't do it because Iwon't hurt the kids.
If I was vindictive andnarcissistic, I would release it
because narcissists love to seeother people misery like
themselves.
Okay, I'm done, you can closeit out.

Speaker 1 (56:16):
Are you sure?
Sure, all right y'all.
Thank you for listening toanother episode of the
Contagious Smile.
My wife is so funny.
I don't know who got her firedup tonight, but yeah, she, she's
fired up.
Say good night, babe good nightbabe really good night y'all.
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