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Jemese LaChel (00:00):
Have you ever
felt like other people knew what
you were dealing with or whatyou were doing in secret that it
would be so shameful, soembarrassing, if people actually
knew what you were battling?
Maybe you give the appearancethat you're super put together
from the outside, but deep downin your heart you need help,
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you're struggling.
If that resonates with you, youdefinitely don't want to miss
this episode.
There is hope inside.
Inside, let's go.
Hey friend, welcome to a newcreation podcast where we're
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pointing women towards victoryin Christ, one Jesus story at a
time.
My name is Camille Lachelle.
I'm so glad that you're here.
Let's dive right in to today'sepisode.
Friends, I want to welcome youback to the podcast.
I am super excited because I'vegot my girl, danny, here for her
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part two.
If you scroll back to episode Ithink didn't we say it was 17?
I think we said seven, episode17 you'll hear the first part
and this is the second partexcited to um.
Just here with the Lord hasbeen doing Just.
He's been moving in your life.
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We intend it.
I don't know, we know we didn'tactually say it like this, but
we intend it.
I think we both thought likepart two would come pretty quick
, but it's like what six monthslater?
Yeah, for a purpose though,because I'm Having shot it with
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you, I I just know that if youhad shared it, then it wouldn't
have been.
It would have been the fullness.
Like this is the story that weneed to hear.
This is this is it, and I'mexcited.
Dani Kay (02:03):
Yeah, it's all in his
perfect timing and I am grateful
for his timing.
Yeah, always on time.
Jemese LaChel (02:09):
So before we get
into that, let's pray.
Dani Kay (02:16):
So, father God, we
thank you for this time.
We thank you, lord Jesus, forevery person who clicks on this
podcast to listen.
Lord, we lift up every listener.
We thank you for them.
Lord Jesus, would you Show themyour heart?
Lord, would you Be the centerof this whole entire testimony?
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Lord Jesus, I thank you for thework that you've done in my
life and I pray that you woulddo the same work in the lives of
every person who's listening.
Lord Jesus, you are the chainbreaker and we thank you, lord
Jesus, for what you're going todo in the lives of each and
every listener.
And Jesus, mighty name, amen,thank you, thank you, thank you.
Jemese LaChel (03:07):
Yeah, so I'm not
gonna blabber on, cuz I want to
hear you yeah, let me hush mymouth and turn it over to you
Tell us what's been going onsince like Episode 17, I suppose
, and like was I know.
People are wondering yeah, youdon't have to, you don't have to
start like that.
Dani Kay (03:27):
Obviously, but I want
to hear like a little bit about.
You know life alright, so umpretty much within this last six
months or so, the Lord's beentaking me through a process of
Sanctification really is what Iwould call it.
I think we had, you know, wetalked about the last one being
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from Out of the darkness intothe light, right, and so part of
that is that I was strugglingwith some sin in my life and
it's been a process, and that'swhy I say in his perfect timing,
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because it really is a process,and I'm so grateful for
deliverance, because reallythat's that's what he did in my
life.
He delivered me from the sinthat I was struggling with, and
that's mainly what I want totalk about is what that process
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of Deliverance andsanctification was like for me.
I'm not gonna lie, it was noteasy, but oh, lord Jesus, was it
worth it.
I just praise him foreverything that he's done.
And so, with that, I want tostart by Acknowledging what it
was that I was struggling with.
So when I first got saved, Iwas struggling with a multitude
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of things, but he it was kind oflike one by one, he was taking
me through, setting things downright because he requires us to
Do our part, and a couple of thethings that I was struggling
with.
The first thing that I put downwas alcohol.
I had used to drink a lot, andthat was the first thing that I
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put down.
The other two things that Istruggled with the most was
smoking, marijuana and Vaping,and so it was.
It was really hard, but I saythat to say that it was worth
putting it down.
One of the things that I wasstruggling with was One of the
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first things that the Lordstarted revealing to me.
Was that the sin that I wasDoing, the things that I was
doing smoking, weed, vaping,doing those things that was
separating me from him.
And that was the firstconviction that I felt was that
Even the amount of time that Ispent Smoking, the amount of
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time that I spent Going to vapeshops and you know all that kind
of stuff that was separating mefrom him, because that was time
that I spent doing somethingother than Giving him my
attention.
And he is a jealous god right,he's jealous for us, he wants
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our time, he wants our love, andthat was the first thing that
he revealed to me was that wasseparating me from him.
And, of course, nothing canseparate us from his love, but
it was separating and causingInterference in my relationship
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with him because it reallyinterferes with our ability to
see and hear him clearly, andthat was difficult, but you know
, in these last days it's soimportant for us to see and hear
him clearly.
And you know, any kind ofaddiction, whatever it may be
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and it could be drinking, itcould be smoking, it could be
vaping, it could be fornication,whatever it is an addiction Is
a bondage that god wants to setyou free from, and when you're
addicted to something, youbecome a slave to.
Whatever it is that you'readdicted to.
John 8, 34 says that everyonewho commits sin Is a slave of
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sin, and when you repent and youturn away from it, you change
your mind about Whatever it is.
Then roman 6, 18 says that youhave been set free From sin and
you have become slaves ofrighteousness.
And that's what I want to be.
I want to be a slave ofrighteousness, I want to Be set
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apart, I want to To Be holy,just as he is holy and that was
one of the things that he wasrevealing to me was that that
sin that was still in my lifewas Making me a slave.
I was a slave to sitting downand smoking when my spirit, man
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wanted to be worshiping god.
My spirit wanted to be readingthe word.
My spirit wanted to be doing somany other things, but my flesh
was screaming and I was a slaveto that and it was oh my
goodness, it was exhausting.
It was so exhausting.
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You know, the word of god saysthat our spirit and soul Really
are our flesh, and our spirit isconstantly at war with each
other.
And that is One of the biggestthings that I was experiencing
in that process ofsanctification was that I was
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feeling that war going onbetween my spirit and my flesh
and I so desired to be free Fromthat.
One of the things that I feltled to talk about was that when
I was deep in my sin, I wassmoking.
I was smoking weed like threeor four times a day.
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It wasn't Satisfying me.
It got to the point where itwas just it felt like a chore
and I really struggled becausewhen I would try and go to sleep
, I would have to smoke weedfirst, because for so many years
I had unintentionally trainedmy brain and body to not be able
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to settle down and go to sleepwithout smoking first.
And the same thing was true foreating.
You know, because I struggledin the past with eating.
It really was more so of aneating disorder, but, um, I had
told myself that it was okaythat I was smoking Because I was
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able to eat on a regular basis,and so I made excuses for my
sin and in that it helped mesleep, it helped me eat.
But Really, what god revealed tome was that he desires to help
us with those things.
You know, he is our peace, hedesires to overflow us with ease
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, you know.
It also, too, is that thosethings they're false comfort,
they're false Helpers is reallywhat it is, and that is a false
holy spirit, because the holyspirit is our comforter, the
holy spirit is our helper.
I used to hear people say falseholy spirit, false holy spirit,
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and I didn't know what thatmeant.
But while god was taking methrough this process, I
understood that that is what hemeans when there's something,
when there's something thatwe're placing in our life or
even just allowing to stay inour life, and we are using it as
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a help, for as comfort.
I'm like there were times that Iwould smoke to get comfortable,
but the holy spirit is mycomforter, and so it was causing
so much confusion anddisruption in my spirit, man,
and I wanted to be free fromthat.
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I wanted to be free fromfeeling like I was Not doing
what I was supposed to be doing.
First Corinthians, 612, saysthat if you say or you say, I'm
allowed to do anything, but noteverything is good for you.
And even though I am allowed todo anything, I must not become
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a slave to anything.
And I'm so grateful that theLord revealed to me that we can
do anything.
Right, we have free will.
We can do anything, yeah.
Jemese LaChel (12:27):
Yeah, we have
liberty in Christ.
A lot of people say that I'vegot liberty.
Yep, he's given us liberty.
Dani Kay (12:34):
He's given us freedom
and that's true, it is
absolutely true, and that's why,you know, in the Word it says
that you know we've been givengrace, but with that grace,
should we just keep on sinning?
No, no, his grace is there sothat when we sin, when we mess
up, when we fall short, we canrun to him.
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We have an advocate with theFather and you know, his grace
is there so that when we mess up, we can go to him and repent
and turn away from it.
And that was one of the biggestthings that he was showing me
was like not everything is goodfor you.
So, yes, you can do anything,but you should not just do
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anything, you should weigh thecost of it.
What is it going to cost meSpiritually, and do I want to
become a slave to anything otherthan Christ Jesus?
And when God was taking methrough this, he was revealing
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to me, because there were a lotof times I feel like this is
super important to touch on,because this was something that
really tripped me up in thisprocess of sanctification,
because I was so eager to be setfree from the things that were
holding me back in my walk withGod and I would put the things
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down.
For example, I would quitsmoking weed for a few weeks,
I'd put it down and then I wouldpick it back up, and then I
would put it down and then Iwould pick it back up, and it
was a vicious cycle of quittingand starting, quitting and
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starting.
And the same was true withvaping.
I would go days, weeks withoutvaping and then I would fall
into temptation and I wouldstart again, and it was causing
so much frustration.
And so I asked the Lord whydoes this keep happening?
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Why can't I put it down andstick to it?
And it was because I was tryingto do it in my own strength.
I was trying so hard to do itby myself, without relying on
the help of the Holy Spirit,even though there were times
that I would ask Him for helpand I would pray and I would
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think that I was leaning on thehelp of the Holy Spirit, but I
was still trying to do it in myown strength.
And with everything that westruggle with, with every sin,
with anything that does not beGod, there's a wrong mindset
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that goes with that there'smindset.
So we need deliverance from thething itself, but we also need
deliverance from the mindsetaccompanying that.
Jemese LaChel (15:52):
That's so true
because without the deliverance
of the mind, you may lay it down, but if your mind doesn't
change, you go right backthrough it.
I've seen it happen over andover Yep and I meet the people
who win the lottery and thenthey get all that money and then
they're back broke again in sixmonths, because they spent it
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all, because their mindsetdidn't change Exactly.
Dani Kay (16:16):
Exactly, and that was
when I was asking the Lord about
that.
He was revealing that to me.
We have a mindset that needs tochange, and that's why, when we
talk of repentance, when werepent, repentance is
acknowledging our wrong, butit's also changing our mind.
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It's turning away from whateverit was and changing our mind
about it.
So you know, the biggest thingthat renews our mind Drumroll.
Jemese LaChel (16:52):
Drumroll.
Dani Kay (16:53):
It's the Word of God,
the Word of God, the Bible,
renews your mind.
So when you're reading the Word, when you're getting filled up
on what His Word says, you'rerenewing your mind.
Those mindsets are shifting.
You're getting deliverance inyour mind from things that
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sometimes there are, mindsetsthat you don't even realize are
there until you get deliveredfrom them and you look back and
you're like whoa, I'm thinkingdifferently about that.
Or this is something thathappened with me.
I would interpret a scriptureone way, with a wrong mindset,
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and then, when I renewed my mindand I got free from that
mindset, I would read thatscripture and see it completely
differently than how I used tosee it.
And you know, god desires toset us free from mindsets as
well that don't serve us,because our mindsets should
glorify God.
Jemese LaChel (17:59):
Amen, absolutely.
And I'll be honest Like I don'tbelieve that I have ever quite
heard many people speak on thistopic.
We love to talk about gettingdeliverance from the devil,
stomping on the devil we love totalk about that, but I think we
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also have to recognize likethere is a battlefield in our
mind and, of course, we need tobe delivered from those wrong
ways of thinking as well,because it's your thoughts, like
you were just saying, like youwere convincing yourself that it
was okay.
Yep, you know, like it helps mein some way For that such a lie
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, it's such a lie, it isabsolutely a lie.
We don't want ourselves to likebe talking ourselves into sin.
Basically, that's exactly right.
Yeah, you know, we talk you andI talked about this the other
day that, like, repentance andsin have become cuss words to
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some people.
Yeah, people don't want to hearabout it, they don't want to
talk about it, but it's a giftto know what is sin.
It's a gift to know, like man,I'm not crazy, yeah, I was
addicted.
The addiction, the addictionwas a sin pattern.
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I'm not crazy.
Yeah, you know, like that'ssuch a gift of God to know what
you're dealing with, first ofall, and put language to it, and
then to have Jesus who boughtall of our sins for us.
He's the one who sets us free.
The whole thing is incredible.
Dani Kay (19:42):
Yes, come on, that's
exactly right and it.
Repentance in and of itself istruly a gift.
To be able to recognize ourwrong, change our mind and turn
away from something is a gift,and praise God that we have the
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ability to do that.
Praise God that we have theability to get back up when
we've fallen and we, when wedon't do the things that we
should do, we can change ourminds, we can change our actions
, we can turn away from thingsthat are not glorifying God, and
the other thing with that isthat we can ask God to remove
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mindsets that are not glorifyinghim Right.
So we can ask God to help uswith that process, cause, let me
tell you, doing it by yourselfdoes not work.
I tried it.
It does not work.
It's not worth it.
God wants to help you to breakfree from addiction.
God wants to help you to breakfree from wrong thinking.
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I've heard people refer to itas stinking thinking, and it is.
It's thinking in a way thatdoes not glorify God, when we
should be glorifying our fatherRight.
Jemese LaChel (21:07):
Yeah, so it's
also thinking in a way that
doesn't even honor yourself.
You know, this culture is somoved by self self self, self,
mimi, and honestly, a lot of thetimes, that the thought
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patterns don't even honorourselves.
Dani Kay (21:31):
It's like very double
minded.
Jemese LaChel (21:33):
Come on you know
what I'm saying, like you said
you care about yourself.
I just need to relax, I justneed to take care of me.
But the reality is that a lotof times the wrong thinking, the
sin causes you to even sinagainst your own self.
Dani Kay (21:51):
Yeah, which is yeah,
that's what sin does.
We are sinning against our ownself.
And the other thing, too, isour body is the temple of the
Holy Spirit.
The Holy Spirit lives in us.
So when we sin, thank God tosin with us and the whole.
That's a whole revelation inand of itself.
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Because, you know, when Irealized that it made me feel
bad, I was like man, jesus, Idon't want to.
You know like I don't think youwant to smoke.
Smoke with me, you know like Iwould.
Just, my mind was shifting.
I was starting to look at it ina different way, because I used
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to make excuses for it.
And the more that I got in theword, the more that God worked
on my heart and worked on mymindset, the more I started to
see sin for what it was.
I started to see that what Iwas doing was not pleasing my
father, it was not glorifyinghim in any way, shape or form,
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it was not benefiting my spiritman at all.
And there's another thing too,that another excuse that I used
to make for my sin was that itwas helping me to focus on him.
It was bringing me intoencounters with him, which was
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not true.
Jemese LaChel (23:23):
That's so like
let's talk about that.
Dani Kay (23:26):
Yeah, it just simply
was not true.
Yeah, I know Exactly, yeah.
Jemese LaChel (23:31):
You know to this
day, like how many people think
that they're using weed to havea spiritual experience, not
realizing they are encounteringdemons.
There you go.
That's exactly right.
That's exactly right.
What does the Bible say?
That Satan comes and hemasquerades around as the angel
of light.
Yep, and if you don't have thewisdom and the word of God in
you to be able to test thespirit, to even know how to do
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that, I mean, go on.
Dani Kay (23:55):
I think that's first
John 4.
I talked about test everyspirit to see whether or not
it's of God.
We are called as children ofGod to test every spirit.
If you are smoking and you arebelieving that it is taking you
into an encounter with yourfather, can I just tell you, I
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promise you it is not doing that, it is not doing that.
The Holy Spirit wants to takeyou into an encounter with your
father and he can do that, somuch more so than smoking weed
can.
That's right.
And he desires to take you intothose deep places with your
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father, god.
The Holy Spirit desires to takeyou into those deep places and
those deep revelations and thosedeep encounters with your
father, who loves you so, somuch, so much, yeah.
Jemese LaChel (24:55):
You told me that
at a point you had gotten numb
to the conviction that the HolySpirit was giving you about some
of these things.
Tell us about that.
I did, I did.
Dani Kay (25:12):
I absolutely became
numb to the conviction that I
was experiencing.
And you know, conviction is agift as well.
It's there to help usunderstand that whatever we're
doing is not pleasing God.
And I became numb to thatfeeling because, even though I
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was experiencing the conviction,I would still continue to do it
, I would still continue tosmoke, I would still continue to
go and buy vapes and continueto vape, because you know, I
would get so angry with myselfwhen I would experience the
conviction and I would continueto do what it was that I was
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doing.
I got angry and it got to thepoint where I just started to
dismiss the conviction I juststarted to.
I was numb, I just dismissed itto a point and what I did not
realize was that disobedience isas unto witchcraft.
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The Word of God says in 1 Samuel1523, this is the amplified
version says that for rebellionis as serious as the sin of
divination or fortune telling.
Disobedience is as serious asfalse religion and idolatry,
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because you have rejected theWord of the Lord.
He also has rejected you asking.
So that is really serious.
That is you when we are inrebellion, when we are in
disobedience and we'redismissing the conviction of the
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Holy Spirit in us.
That's the same as falsereligion, idolatry, fortune
telling.
As children of God, we don'twant anything to do with that.
That is not our portion.
And when he revealed that to me, that that is the same as
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witchcraft.
Ew Right, gross, I don't wantanything to do with witchcraft.
And by being disobedient, bybeing rebellious and continuing
to do what I wanted to do, itwas not producing fruit, it was
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not benefiting me, it was notglorifying him and it really did
become idolatry.
I was idolizing smoking weed, Iwas idolizing vaping.
I constantly had those thingsin my hands when I should have
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had the Word of God in my handsis the conviction that I felt it
truly was.
It was a hard revelation toswallow.
Jemese LaChel (28:14):
Yeah, yeah.
So for me, like outside lookingin for our listeners, me and
Danny are very good friends.
I consider Danny, like you'reliterally one of my best friends
, yes, and so I knew some ofthis, but I didn't know at all.
And that just goes to show youthe insidious ickiness of sin
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and what it does, because notonly does it interfere with your
relationship with God, but itbecomes a thing between your
most personal relationships aswell.
Yeah, any kind of addiction,you know.
You feel like you have to hideit.
Then shame comes in, and sooutside, looking and being on
this side of the testimony,looking back, I would be praying
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for my girl, danny, I would bepraying for you and it would be
like the cycle.
I didn't know everything, butI'd be praying and we'd be
breaking stuff off and like howmany times that we pray
deliverance and be breakingstuff off and like, but it would
seem like a cycle, you know,and I was like, okay, so it's.
It's beautiful to me to see howthe Lord truly does hold on to
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us.
He does not let us go.
He had you in your hand, in hishands, he was keeping me, yeah,
and he was pulling along.
But it is such a cycle.
It is a cycle.
It is like a, a merry-go-round,and she wouldn't get off from it
.
Dani Kay (29:40):
I'm glad that you're
off.
It's a cycle.
It's a vicious cycle, but can Itell you that it does not have
to be.
Jemese LaChel (29:49):
It doesn't.
It really doesn't.
It does not.
It does not have to be.
Let's highlight that in circle,that that's so true.
I think with addiction that youget used to these kind of
worldly messages of you're goingto relapse.
So you might as well just likejust accepted and being known by
that name, being known as allyour alcoholic, your, your weed
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smoker, your vapor being knownby those names.
But the Lord doesn't call youthat.
It doesn't have to be a cycle.
You don't have to be called bythose names.
Dani Kay (30:20):
That's exactly right.
You do not have to live in thatvicious cycle.
The biggest thing is that withaddiction, with sin, whatever it
may be, it requires an actionstep.
It requires you to take a stepof faith and to decide to put it
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down.
And this goes in with renewingyour mind with the word of God.
But it requires you to put itdown and that was one of the
biggest things that God wasshowing was that you know, like,
towards the end of this processhe was.
He kept telling me to put itdown.
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I actually had an encounter withthe Lord one night when I was
smoking.
He I heard him so clearly inthe middle of smoking he said
put it down.
And I was like whoa, and so Idid, and he told me to go and
get a pen and a notebook andstart writing.
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And in that moment that was howhe was speaking.
I was praying and as I waspraying in the spirit, he was
speaking to me and he answeredsome questions that I had had
since I got saved and he wasshowing me that in that
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encounter, he was showing methat my relationship with him in
order to continue to moveforward and go, like the word
says from glory to glory.
For him to take me where he hasfor me to go, it requires me to
make a decision put it down.
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I was crying out to God onenight and I was so frustrated.
I was so frustrated Because,let me tell you, after that
night, when he told me to put itdown, I picked it back up and
then I put it down again, andthen I picked it back up and I
put it down again and I wascrying out to him and I was so
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frustrated.
I was so tired of the cycle.
I was so tired of continuing todo what I know he did not want
me to do.
And I heard him so gently, sogently said Danny, I want all of
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you.
I want all of you.
And he wasn't angry.
He was not angry.
I could hear the love, I couldhear the sincerity in his voice.
He wanted every part of me.
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He didn't want a single part ofme to be held captive by any
kind of sin, any kind ofrebellion, any kind of shame.
And there were parts of me thathe didn't have.
There were parts of me that Ididn't allow him it.
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I wanted him to have all of me.
I wanted him to have every partof who I am and every part of
who he created me to be.
I wanted to have it, and I knowthat he wants every part of
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every single one of his children, that's right, every single
part of whom you are.
He wants it because he lovesyou, he desires to set you free,
he desires to take you in towhat he has for you.
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And he told me again I wasgetting ready to go to a
conference right after.
He said that to me, actually.
So I put it down and I went tothis conference.
And it was at this conferencethat the second night I was
there because I didn't bringanything with me.
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I put it down and I knew I wasgoing out of town.
So that was my step of faithwas to put it down, leave
everything here and go away tothis conference.
That was what I did in thesecond night.
They it was a deliveranceservice and they called up
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everyone who needed deliverancefrom anything, any single thing
that was holding them down.
They called you up to the altarand I'm standing back there and
my heart is pounding so hard.
It felt like it was going topound out of my chest and I knew
I had to go up there.
So I went up there and theyprayed over everyone.
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They laid hands on everyone,they prayed over everyone and I
told this woman.
I said I want to be free,completely free from weed and
nicotine.
She prayed over me and I feltthis weight lift, like the
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spirit of addiction.
I felt it live along with themindset.
I felt like I was free in mymind.
I felt like I could feel thelove of God just flood in and
fill up every part of me wherethe addiction was, where the
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shame was, where thecondemnation was, where all of
the things didn't work by himand where I felt the love of God
fill those places.
And it was so much greater thanwords can even express.
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It was huge.
And I went back to my seat and Iwas praying and I said God.
I said what is it about thistime that makes it different
from all the other times that Ireceived prayer, all the other
times that I tried to do selfdeliverance on myself, all the
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other times that I tried tosurrender everything to you?
What makes this time different?
And they gave a message about.
He had started to minister thisword to me, but then someone
else in the conference a daylater gave a word on this, about
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lots wife and about how sheturned back.
And she turned back at what shehad come from and she turned
into a pillar of salt and Godsaid to me don't turn back.
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Don't turn back.
He said Jesus.
He said your future needs youmore than your past does.
Let me tell you, if you arelistening to this, your future
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needs you more than your past.
Your future needs you more thanyour yesterday.
You are needed in the body ofChrist.
Your gifts are needed.
Your talent is needed.
There are things that you havethat I don't have.
There are gifts that you havethat I don't have.
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And every single one of us isnecessary.
Every single one of us isimportant in the body of Christ.
Having that revelation of yourfuture and where God wants to
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take you, that is huge.
Don't look back.
Don't look back.
Don't look back.
Getting that revelation thatfreed me from a mindset of that
vicious cycle of continuing togo back to whatever it was,
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because my flesh was screamingat, because I felt like it that
broke off of me that day, thatmindset of that vicious cycle.
It broke.
And the second Corinthians sevenone says let us cleanse
ourselves from everything thatcan defile our body or spirit
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and let us work toward completeholiness, because we fear God.
God is not the fear that wethink it is.
It's not the worldly fear likewe would imagine.
It's fear of God is reverence,it's honor, it's honoring the
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King of kings and the Lord ofLord.
And so we are to cleanseourselves, and God does that
cleansing in our spirit.
And but we have a part to playin our freedom.
We have a part to play in oursanctification, and that's our
willingness to put down whateverit is.
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That's our willingness to takethat step of faith.
That's our willingness tocooperate and partner with the
Holy Spirit to become free.
God doesn't desire for us todefile ourselves.
God doesn't desire for us tolive in those vicious cycles.
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He wants us to be free.
He wants us to be free morethan we want to be free.
He wants us to be free so thathe can take us to the place that
he has for us.
There's a process, but itdoesn't have to be a cycle.
Jemese LaChel (41:09):
I love that.
It's a process, but it doesn'thave to be a cycle.
That's exactly right.
Yeah, there's a freedom inJesus that you will not find it
any place else.
So I work as a trauma therapist, as a Christian counselor, and
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so it's interesting becausebefore I got into this work, I
worked in like secularworkplaces where we couldn't
pray, you know none of that kindof stuff.
Dani Kay (41:41):
And it's just
interesting.
Jemese LaChel (41:42):
Having seen that
psychology could take you so far
, you need Jesus to get thattrue freedom.
Psychology can give you tools.
The Lord made our minds.
He knows all the he knows.
There's people who think thatwe don't need, like you know,
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counseling.
Whatever.
I'm of the mindset that Godmade our minds just like he made
our body.
So you have a doctor for yourbody.
I believe that he made our mind.
There's a science to the mindas well.
You can't get so far in doing it, the the quote unquote normal
way with psychology tools, or orfollow this many steps and then
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you'll be free, or you know.
But there's a freedom in Jesus.
You just won't find it anyother way.
You don't got to.
You got to take one step to him.
Yep, that step is yes, jesus,that step is a yes, yes, I'm not
going to resist you.
No more, I'm not going to do itanymore.
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Yes, jesus, I want it your way.
Yep, yes, I'll lay it down.
Yes, you're the King of Kingsand the Lord of the Lords.
Yes, lord, I receive salvation.
That yes to Jesus.
Dani Kay (43:03):
He wants our yes.
Jemese LaChel (43:05):
Yeah, he does.
I've been.
I've been on this yes thing forlike it feels like about two
years for real, like I don'tthink I'm going to let it go
because it's like we got to givehim that fresh yes, yep, we got
to do it.
We don't want to get so familiarwith him To the point where we
think that we got it.
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Yep.
Oh, I don't like that phrase.
People say I got it, I got it,I got this, you got this, but
the fact is we don't got it.
We don't If we, if we got it,the word would be the need for a
savior.
If we could do it in our ownstrength.
Dani Kay (43:43):
Yes, we were talking
about that.
We were talking about that.
Why would Jesus have had tocome?
Why would we have needed asavior if we could have done it
ourselves?
Yeah, we can't.
And that was what he wasshowing me when I was trying to
do it in my own strength, tryingto get free in my own strength.
I couldn't do it Right.
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I failed so many times, I fellso many times.
But it's not about how manytimes you fall, it's about how
many times you get up.
But the thing is is that limitthe amount of times that you
fall and just say yes to Jesushelping you.
Just say, yes, jesus, I wantthe freedom.
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Yes, jesus, I want to submitthis to you.
I want to lay this down.
I want what you have for me inexchange for what I think is
good for me.
I don't want what I think isgood for me, I want what you
know is good for me.
Yeah, and we really can't do itourselves.
Jemese LaChel (44:48):
We need Jesus, we
can't.
And also, if you don't want tosay yes to, if you're listening,
you're like what are theytalking about?
Because I know how that is tofeel.
Like, oh, somebody else is somuch further ahead in their
faith walk and like, oh, I can'tever be like that, you know
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which is just not true, first ofall.
But if you don't know what yesto say, say, yes, jesus, I trust
you Because in that statement,you lay down your need to
understand how it's going towork out.
Because, yes, jesus, I justtrust you.
You lay down your need to haveto fix it on your own.
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Because, yes, jesus, I justtrust you.
Yes, jesus, I trust you thatyou're good and you're going to
do this thing for me and thatyou want to.
I trust you.
Yes, jesus, I trust you.
Start there.
Dani Kay (45:48):
Yes Jesus, yes Jesus.
Well, you know, we getdeliverance.
There's pretty much threedifferent types of deliverance.
There's deliverance from death,which is our salvation.
We receive Jesus as oursalvation.
So we're delivered from deathon the grave.
But then we get deliverancefrom our mindset and we get
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deliverance from sin and sayingyes to all three things.
That is how he takes us fromglory to glory.
That is how he takes our handand he walks with us.
We're not supposed to try anddo this on our own.
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God does not desire for us totry and do it on our own.
Do you know how overwhelming itwould be to do this on our own?
Yeah, impossible.
Jemese LaChel (46:46):
We can never
carry the load.
We couldn't carry it we justcouldn't.
Dani Kay (46:50):
No, he wants us to
partner with him, to say yes,
yes, jesus, I trust you.
And then to walk with him, totalk to him like he's our best
friend, because he is, and theHoly Spirit, the Holy Spirit's
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also our counselor.
So the Holy Spirit will help us, he will counsel us, and
there's so much freedom in that,there's so much freedom in
having a Savior that will holdhands with you and walk with you
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, will walk you through thethings that are difficult, will
walk you through the process ofsanctification, will walk you
through deliverance, will walkyou through healing, because
healing and deliverance go handin hand.
That vicious sin cycle that Iwas in.
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It was hurting my heart becauseI knew that it was not pleasing
my father and it was hurting myheart that I was not pleasing
him.
And with the deliverance fromthat, my heart was healed from
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the wounds that I continued toinflict on myself.
It was a heart healing, a mindhealing, all in one.
Jemese LaChel (48:29):
Yeah, amen,
praise God.
So I don't know how much timewe have I feel like we're
running up on time but I do feelled to ask you this question
before we pray.
Yes, so I know that there arepeople listening who are in the
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church and believers, but theyare struggling and it's in
secret, nobody knows.
I wonder what you would say tothat person.
Dani Kay (49:05):
Yeah, yeah, I was one
of them.
I would say that talk tosomeone that you trust.
The Bible says to confess oursins one to another and to pray
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for each other.
And not only are you notsupposed to do this alone, in
the sense that God wants to helpyou, but you have brothers and
sisters in Christ who also canhelp you and want to help you.
If there is someone that youtrust, you trust the spirit of
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God on the inside of that person, talk to them, confide in them.
And I will say this you know,there's not a single thing that
you are tempted by that otherpeople are not tempted by, and
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that is why we have each otherto bear each other's burdens, to
pray for each other.
You know, I had a couple ofvery close, trusted sisters in
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Christ that I confided in aboutthis, when it got to the point
where I felt like the Lord wasnudging me to talk to someone
because it was gnawing at me,and I did, and it helped so much
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because I didn't feel alone.
I felt like there was some typeof accountability, like there
was some type of freedom, andeven just talking about it that
is also a form of feeling, anddeliverance is opening up and
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talking to someone, confiding insomeone that you trust, and
having that person pray with you, having that person believe for
your deliverance with you, thatwas huge, that was a huge help
to me, and so I would say thattalk to someone and I would also
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say that you're not alone.
There's people all around youwho are struggling that you know
nothing about and you know weare all as the body of Christ.
We are all pressing on towardsthe mark of the high calling,
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which is Christ Jesus.
We are all, every single day,we are striving towards Jesus.
We are trying to be more likeJesus, and so don't get in
condemnation.
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Condemnation is not yourportion Conviction pay attention
to, but condemnation is notfrom God.
For those who are in ChristJesus, there is no condemnation.
So do not get in shame.
Beat yourself up.
Confide in someone.
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Go to your father.
You have an advocate with thefather.
Go to him.
Talk to him.
Talk to Jesus, ask him for hishelp.
And go to a trusted friend andask them to pray with you, ask
them to believe with you,because there's power in numbers
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.
You know the word says one, twoor three agree as touching
something.
It will be done for them.
That is true for deliverance,that's true for healing, that is
true for all kinds of things.
But touch and agree withsomeone that your freedom is now
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, your freedom is now, andpartner with God on that,
because he wants to set you free, completely free, and he wants
to take you to where he has foryou in his kingdom.
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You are necessary, you areimportant, you are needed and
your gifts are needed.
So that that is my heart, thatis what I would say, because I
was one of those people and Ifelt like I was living a double
life.
You don't have to live a doublelife.
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You can set one of them downand that is the one that doesn't
glorify your king.
You are so important to thebody of Christ and your holiness
, your purity, yourrighteousness is a huge part of
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that.
Jemese LaChel (54:50):
Thank you so much
, Tanny.
Thank you, I am so grateful.
I just thank God for you.
I love to see you on the sideof it.
I can see, I can see by thespirit, the difference in you
and it just, it just makes meglorify the Lord.
I'm just so grateful for, forhis name and the freedom that is
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found in him.
But he loves us so much.
Yeah, I just want to see anyone of his children left behind
struggling.
He doesn't want that for anyone of his children.
No, he does not.
Would you pray for putting youon the spot?
That's okay.
You're powerful Intercessor.
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Would you pray as you're?
Dani Kay (55:36):
led.
Yes, absolutely, I would behappy to Abba, Abba, abba,
father.
Lord Jesus, we thank you.
I just declare and decreefreedom over every single person
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listening to this podcast.
I declare that a newness of thespirit of the living God come
upon you, that the desire forholiness, righteousness and
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purity would grow in your spirit.
Father God, I pray that youwould cleanse each person's
heart and renew a right spiritwithin them.
Father God, I thank you thatyour love for each and every
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person is so, so great, it isoverflowing.
God, I thank you that the workthat you have done in my heart,
that you are doing it in eachlistener's heart.
God, I ask that you would raisean awareness in the spirit
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realm of your love, that theawareness of your Holy Spirit
living on the inside of everybeliever would be raised, that
they would come to anunderstanding of how much you
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desire their freedom.
God, I ask that you would holdeach person's hand, that you
would be their wraparound love.
The wraparound love of Jesuswould be with them.
God, I ask that if there arethose that are struggling with
sin, lord Jesus, help them tolay it down.
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I find every spirit that is notthe Holy Spirit and we command
it to go now in Jesus' name andnot return.
Lord Jesus, your desire foreach and every person to walk in
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the fullness of who you havecalled them to be is greater
than any desire we could everwant.
So, lord Jesus, I pray that youwould give each listener's eyes
, ears and ears to hear yourHoly Spirit, that, god, you
would reveal to them theircalling, that you would reveal
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to them their giftings and thatyou would help them to walk into
their future and not look attheir path.
I declare and decreedeliverance and freedom from all
sin In Jesus' mighty name.
Lord Jesus, help them to walkforward, not backward.
Thank you, Lord Jesus, for yourfreedom.
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Thank you, lord Jesus, for yourlove.
We praise your Holy Name, god.
We praise your Holy Name.
In Jesus' name, we pray Amen,amen.
Amen.
Jemese LaChel (59:15):
Amen, Amen, Amen,
Amen.
Yes, thank you.
Thank you so much, Danny.
It has been a pleasure.
If anybody listening is movedby this testimony, how can
listeners reach you if they want?
Dani Kay (59:33):
to connect.
If you want to connect, you canreach me by email at Danny
D-A-N-I 414 1399 at gmailcom.
Wonderful.
Thank you so much, danny andJimmy, I want to thank you for
having me on.
Thank you so much for giving methe ability to share my
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testimony.
I honor you, I respect you andI love you.
Jemese LaChel (01:00:01):
Thank you, danny.
Thank you all for tuning in andlistening.
If any one of you has atestimony for Jesus that you
want to share, please reach out,go to our newcreationpodcastcom
and connect with me there, and,until the meantime, may God
keep you and bless you until wemeet again.