January 22, 2025 • 54 mins
Speech has the power to shape our world, but what happens when words are replaced by emojis and symbols? In this episode of "A Show of Faith," we explore the profound impact of language through the lens of religion and philosophy.
We kick off with a discussion about the transformative power of speech, drawing inspiration from the Hebrew scriptures and the unforgettable words of Martin Luther King Jr. As we navigate the intricacies of verbal and non-verbal communication in our digital age, we delve into the significance of understanding both spoken and written language, while sharing a few light-hearted musings about weather preferences.
Rudy takes us on a personal journey through his silent retreat experience, highlighting the importance of listening amidst the constant noise of modern life. We dive into the concept of self-revelation through language and the parallels between human interaction and divine revelation. The discussion addresses how our words serve as a reflection of our inner selves, acting as a barometer for our hearts' abundance.
The episode examines the dual nature of speech as both a biological function and cultural construct, with English and Judeo-Christian traditions playing a key role in shaping how we communicate.
The conversation shifts to the delicate balance of truth, love, and civility in communication. Through everyday scenarios and historical examples like Martin Luther King Jr., we highlight the importance of speaking truth with compassion. We also touch upon the divine aspect of humor and its role in communication, sharing a humorous anecdote about a monk in a silent order. As we wrap up, we celebrate contributions from notable figures such as Darrell Bock and Father Mario, and remind our listeners of the significance of events like Martin Luther King Day.
Join us as we reflect on the power of words and humor in connecting us to one another and fostering a sense of community.
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Speaker 1 (00:00):
Well, I guess it would be nice if I could touch
your body.
I know, not everybody has got abody like you, but I gotta
think twice before I put myheart away.
And I know all the games youplay because I play them too.
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Oh, but I need some time offfrom that emotion Time to get my
heart back off the floor.
Oh, well, never comes down withan emotion.
Well, it takes a strong man,baby.
But I won't shoot the doorCause I gotta have faith.
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I gotta have faith Cause Igotta have to have faith.
I've got to have faith BecauseI've got to have faith.
Faith, faith.
I've got to have faith, faith,faith.
Welcome to A Show of Faith whereprofessor, priest, millennial
and rabbi discuss theology andphilosophy and anything else of
interest in religion.
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Our priest's father, marioArroyo, retired pastor of St
Cyril of Alexandria, in the10,000 block of Westheimer.
Speaker 2 (01:19):
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I am tired again.
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Speaker 3 (01:27):
You aren't just tired .
Speaker 1 (01:29):
I am re-tired.
You can go to discount tireshop for the re-tiring.
Speaker 2 (01:35):
Yeah, I know, I can even discount tire.
Okay.
Speaker 1 (01:41):
Professor David Capes is our Baptist minister,
director of academic programmingfor the Lanier Theological
Library.
Speaker 4 (01:47):
Hey, great to be with you guys again this evening on
the cold night in Houston.
Speaker 2 (01:52):
The night before the inauguration.
Speaker 4 (01:54):
I know, yeah, it's been moved indoors apparently.
Speaker 1 (01:57):
I don't like super cold, I don't like super hot.
Speaker 2 (02:02):
Then you must not like me.
Speaker 4 (02:04):
Super hot.
Speaker 2 (02:06):
yes, yes, but not cold, not cold, no, but I'm
super hot.
Speaker 1 (02:12):
Let's see Rudy.
Speaker 5 (02:14):
Kog is our millennial .
Speaker 1 (02:15):
He's a systems engineer, has his master's
degree in theology from theUniversity of St Thomas Rudy.
Speaker 6 (02:20):
Howdy, howdy.
Speaker 1 (02:21):
Hey, I am Rabbi Stuart Federo, retired rabbi
from Congregation Sha'arHaShalom in the Clear Lake area
of Houston, texas.
Howdy, howdy, although we'drather you email us.
Speaker 4 (02:54):
And Jim and Miranda and Crystal help us sound
fantastic.
It takes a hot priest too.
Yeah, that makes all thedifference.
Speaker 6 (03:04):
Hey, rudy, is it going to be snowing down in
Guatemala in the next couple ofdays?
They don't call it the eternalspring for nothing, and let me
tell you, the weather here isactually pretty much the most
consistently fantastic I've everbeen in in my life.
Speaker 4 (03:15):
It's great steward is going to be moving down soon
because he doesn't like hot orcold.
Speaker 6 (03:20):
No, I don't well, you just have to deal with
volcanoes and earthquakes and alittle bit of unstable
government, you know, but that'sgreat.
Speaker 4 (03:30):
Great.
A little bit of unstablegovernment, okay.
Well, we've been up here andwe've had unstable government
for a big unstable governmentfor a while.
All right, hey, this is MartinLuther King weekend.
Speaker 7 (03:45):
Yes.
Speaker 4 (03:47):
And it's really appropriate, Stuart, that you
have chosen the idea of speech.
Yes, language Because languageis so very powerful and
influential.
Speaker 1 (04:02):
Words can hurt, words can heal, and influential words
can hurt, words can heal.
And there's a bunch of versesthat come to mind in the hebrew
scriptures about speech.
So, for example uh, god spokeand the world came into
existence.
Open up my lips that my mouthmay declare your glory.
Guard my lips from speaking,guile.
Speaker 2 (04:25):
Uh, plenty of verses in the hebrew scriptures about
speaking I used to have aprofessor that we used to call
ether lips ether lips.
Speaker 1 (04:35):
yeah, because what he spoke would put you to sleep.
I think we've all hadprofessors like that.
Yeah, oh, but animals theycommunicate with each other, but
I don't think they really havespeech, not to the degree or the
sophistication that humans do.
You know, dogs, cats, pets theycan make their will known so
(05:03):
they can communicate, but itisn't speech, no.
Speaker 4 (05:07):
So speech is a specifically human advantage or
characteristic or whatever youwant to call it, but if you
listen to communication experts,they tell us that about 70% of
what we communicate is reallynon-verbal.
Speaker 1 (05:26):
Right, yes, but that means you have to see them.
Okay, we text now, we email now.
Speaker 4 (05:32):
No, I don't mean that .
I'm talking about our body,face-to-face, the body language.
Speaker 1 (05:37):
But that's all face-to-face.
Yeah, I wonder what percentageof communication now isn't
face-to-face because of ourelectronic world.
Yeah, like I was telling youearlier, I'm teaching this class
this past Friday in Indonesia.
Speaker 4 (05:54):
75 students there and we're 12 hours, 13 hours apart.
It's their evening, my morning,and you know a lot of
communication goes on betweenthem and me, and me and them,
but that's the way the worldworks.
Speaker 1 (06:10):
Now it's not face-to-face Exactly, but there
are rules for speech, there arerules of etiquette for speech
and there are rules foretiquette of the written word,
like in an email or a textmessage.
There are certain things youwill say and certain things you
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will not say.
There's a certain way to saythings when we do it
electronically.
There are rules that we follow.
Either we know the rules or wedon't know them, or we know them
in the back of our heads.
We follow them even withoutthinking, and I'm not talking
grammar.
I'm talking about how youformulate whatever it is you're
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trying to communicate.
Okay, we now have the littlesymbol Emojis, emojis, emojis to
help us communicate, which isspeech, but there are certain
single finger hand symbols.
(07:17):
You're not going to send overan email Talking about crude
things.
Yes, okay, there's an etiquetteto it, and etiquette are rules.
So we organize our speech.
We have rules about not onlyhow you can say, which would be
(07:38):
like grammar but also in termsof what we say, and the Bible
talks about gossip.
Speaker 4 (07:47):
So we Is it for gossip or against it?
Speaker 1 (07:53):
Pretty sure it's against it, okay, I want to make
sure I'm against it.
Speaker 4 (07:55):
You're against it.
Speaker 1 (07:56):
I'm against it.
All right.
So speech is one of the mostpowerful we have.
Well, I'm not sure I caninclude Rudy is one of the most
powerful we have.
Well, I'm not sure I caninclude Rudy, but we have three
clergy who, until retirement atleast, we were having to give
speeches, sermons.
Well, mario still does it.
(08:17):
Yes, he does.
And you also teach, yeah, andI'm free.
No, just kidding.
So Everything that we do teach,yeah, so, and I'm free, notice.
So everything that we do interms of speech has expectations
(08:41):
.
So I just think, and speech alsoour language, what we say, how
we say, how we say it, who wesay it to, what we say to one
person about someone else, whichmay or may not be actual gossip
.
Okay, a lot of times it is, wedon't think it is, but that's
why I thought we would talkabout speech tonight, because of
its incredible importance, andI think it was Rudy who brought
(09:05):
up the idea about how do we talkto God.
You know, we, I would hope,approach God with respect, love,
but is it okay to be angry atGod?
And if it is, is that reflectedin what we say to God?
I mean, it can go in so manydifferent directions, but that's
(09:30):
why I thought I would bring itup.
So, prayer being a part of that, and prayer is a part of that,
although we've talked aboutprayer in recent weeks, I even
think Well, one of the dumbestthings I ever heard was sticks
and stones can break my bones,but words will never hurt me,
right?
Speaker 4 (09:48):
That's one of the dumbest things anybody has ever
said, has ever put into poeticform Now.
I've been hurt with some sticksand stones, but probably
throughout most of my life.
I don't know about you, mario,but the greatest pains that I
have gone through have oftenbeen words spoken to me.
Words spoken about me Right Canbe very painful and very
(10:12):
lasting.
I remember talking to a womanone time whose husband was
verbally abusive to her and shesaid I wish that he would hit me
because I know that that painwould go away quicker than the
verbal abuse she really did.
(10:34):
And I think when she said thatshe really meant it, that she
would prefer to be hit than tobe talked to the way that she no
, he talked to her Right.
So I mean that's one thing, andthe other thing that is wise is
the pen is mightier than thesword.
(10:58):
Right that words spoken, wordswritten can have a great deal of
power.
Not just God's word when hesays let there be light.
Speaker 1 (11:11):
Brought the world into being.
But, the things that we say.
There's a book and I actuallyreferred to it, not obviously by
Rabbi Joseph Telushkin, calledWords that Heal, words that Hurt
, words that Hurt, words thatHeal.
It's a great book.
On watching our speech.
Could you go?
(11:34):
Oh, mario, there are, if Iremember correctly, retreats
like for a weekend in theCatholic tradition, where for
the whole weekend nobody speaks.
That's correct.
Why?
What's the advantage to havinga weekend where you're not
(11:56):
talking?
Speaker 2 (11:58):
It's to deepen your understanding of the deeper word
that's inside.
Speaker 1 (12:04):
What does that mean?
Speaker 2 (12:06):
This is something that I was thinking while you
guys were talking the word.
I think it's extremelyimportant that God speaks
creation into existence.
That means that speech in someway is a communicator of spirit,
(12:28):
which is why they hurt so muchand they can heal, because there
is an actual communication ofspirit occurring and when God
speaks to us, he speaks.
I'm responding to your question.
The reason that you are silentin the Catholic Spinal Retreat
(12:53):
is that God's spirit cancommunicate with your spirit and
many times what is lacking isspeech.
Listening to God speaks,listening Right, yeah, because I
always tell people prayer is98% listening, but you'll have
to listen to something and whatyou listen to is God's speech to
(13:17):
you, so you have to turn offyour own speech to hear God's.
Yeah, have you ever thoughtabout trying to think without
speech?
Speaker 1 (13:26):
No.
Speaker 2 (13:27):
You can't, you can't, and so it's interesting,
because then you can go linkthat insight to my thoughts are
not your thoughts and my wordsare not your words.
As high as the heavens are abovethe earth.
Are my thoughts above yourthoughts and your words above my
words, my words above my words?
So I think that the answer toyou is you quit irrelevant or
(13:52):
superficial speech in order tolisten to the deeper speech.
And it's the same thing withhuman beings.
With human beings, if you onlyspeak superficially to each
other, you end up not being incommon union, right.
But if you only if you makesure to intentionally speak
(14:14):
something that is substantive,substantive then you enter into
common union.
It's always.
I find it interesting thatjesus said if, if my words stay
a part of you, then you willremain in me and I in you.
He didn't say that only aboutthe Eucharist, he said that
about his Word.
So, I think that thecommunication of spirit and the
(14:38):
ability to be in common unionwith another….
When we come back.
Speaker 1 (14:42):
I'm not sure I understand what you mean by that
.
Speaker 2 (14:45):
My spirit.
Speaker 1 (14:47):
Are you talking about the Christian Holy Spirit?
Speaker 2 (14:49):
I'm talking about any kind of spirit.
Speaker 1 (14:53):
You mean the spiritual?
Speaker 2 (14:54):
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It's phenomenal okay, I have heard about a million
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So, david, what does 25 mean toyou?
(17:55):
No, I'm just kidding, martin,you were saying what I was
talking about is spirit.
Speaker 2 (18:00):
Is that the foundation of all human
interaction is spiritual?
Okay Meaning, for example, whenI so it's two, if I am common,
listen to the word communicationor common union.
Okay, if I just go sense data,I am not.
(18:22):
I don't know you by sense data.
It's what sense datacommunicates.
That I know, and what I know isthe spirit that.
Speaker 5 (18:32):
I identify, as you know, a person's spirit.
That's right.
Speaker 2 (18:36):
And so the word is the only way you can enter into
another person's life, it's theonly way we can enter into
common union with each other islanguage.
Speaker 4 (18:49):
And part of that part of the language thing and I
want to get Rudy in here on partof this in a second but is that
we have to choose in thatcommunication moment to reveal
something of ourself?
The only way we can knowanother person is if they choose
to reveal.
What is your name?
What do you do?
(19:09):
What do?
Speaker 1 (19:09):
you like, what do you dislike?
Yeah, how do you spend?
Speaker 3 (19:12):
your time.
What's your favorite?
Speaker 4 (19:13):
right.
Chicago song 25 or 60, no, what?
Whatever, whatever it might be,wait, david revolution is a
part of, just like it is with,god.
We wouldn't know God except forthe fact that God reveals
himself, he acts and speaks todisclose himself to us.
Speaker 1 (19:29):
So you're trying to say that we're not mind readers?
Speaker 4 (19:32):
We are not, not really Now.
We do have intuitions and we dohave things that we pick up on
that are bodily based, becausewe are embodied creatures and
our bodies do, in a sense,betray what's on the inside or
tell what's on the inside, andso, gifted communicators, if a
(19:57):
person's a speaker, let's say ina conference or something, he
or she can normally sort of lookat the audience and tell the
degree to which the audience iscapturing what he or she is
saying, right, how they'reresponding, right, right.
Speaker 1 (20:11):
So, Rudy, are you a mind reader?
Speaker 6 (20:17):
I don't know if I would even want to be a mind
reader.
Can you imagine that?
What about your wife?
Speaker 4 (20:23):
I would like to read her mind a little bit.
Speaker 11 (20:27):
No, no, if you could read my mind love.
Speaker 4 (20:30):
That could be a scary , scary thing, right it's a
scary thing.
Speaker 6 (20:35):
No, no no.
Speaker 4 (20:37):
So let me ask, rudy have you ever been on a silent
retreat?
Speaker 6 (20:42):
Yeah, I actually, funny enough, I did a.
There was a time where I kindof was sort of discerning
whether I was being called tothe priesthood and I took a.
I mean, I went on a retreat andit was a silent retreat and the
(21:06):
focus was, just like FatherMario said, to listen.
You know, especially in today'sday and age there's so much
noise.
And I went to this retreat Idon't know if you guys are
familiar with it, it's onMemorial, are familiar with it?
(21:28):
It's on memorial.
I don't know if maybe they gotflooded out after no, it's a
little bit before Harvey.
But I feel nice, that's a calm.
Passion is good yeah, it's aholy name retreat house, mm-hmm
right it's called holy nameretreat the holy name retreat
and and it was, it was actually,it was actually pretty great.
I mean, when you're in it, likethe first night and the first
day, you're sort of like atleast for myself, I was antsy,
(21:54):
but then near the end of it, man, I didn't even want to pick up
my phone, I didn't even want toreally listen to music, I didn't
.
You know, I got out and therewas traffic and people are
honking and you're just like, oh, this is just terrible and it's
.
It's interesting when we, whenwe talk about speech right, and
it's, I think, it in in somereal aspect, it's sort of a
(22:17):
mirror to the soul.
It kind of reveals who we areand and what we value, right.
And it's interesting becausethere's a lot of sort of debate
between you know, whether speechemerged as sort of a pure
biological function, right,because there's some animals
that can mimic speech, likethere's even parrots that show
(22:40):
advanced communication, right,they can identify colors, shapes
, all kinds of different things,right.
Or is it more of a culturalconstruct?
And I was thinking about thisbecause there's this tribe.
It's kind of a how would I sayit?
It's kind of a remote tribe andthey don't have certain things
(23:04):
like speech recursion, right.
So the way that they say things, we would think of it as sort
of very how would I say, sort offundamental right.
There's not a lot of complexityto the language and frankly, I
think about this of English,actually, because my sister is a
(23:28):
speech and language pathologistI think it is, but she works
with people that have, forexample, they were in an
accident, right, and they havesome sort of brain damage, so
they have to relearn how to makesounds, and English is actually
one of the most complexlanguages of sounds that has
(23:54):
ever existed, with Chineseactually coming after.
So people think about English.
It's why a lot of people thatare not native speakers of
English or weren't or didn'tgrow up with English, have
difficulty with particular words.
So one thing I think about Iknow it's almost time to go, but
(24:14):
how much you know in this sortof Judeo-Christian culture that
we've grown in, right, how muchhas that actually developed our
word usage, our language, theway we speak, the way we speak,
the way we engage communally,culturally, with each other, I
mean, I think they'refundamentally tied to each other
.
Speaker 4 (24:33):
I think you're right in a lot of ways.
Let me I know we've got to goto a break here in just a second
, but let me quote Jesus,because I think you were in a a
sense quoting Jesus a moment ago.
You didn't, you didn't realizeit, but you when you talked
about that I don't use this wordor not but that the mouth
language is kind of a goodbarometer for the heart, right?
(24:55):
I mean, you get a measure ofthe heart, jesus and Luke.
Luke's Gospel says the goodperson out of the good treasure
of his heart produces good.
The evil person out of his eviltreasure produces evil.
For out of the abundance of theheart, the mouth speaks.
(25:17):
Out of the abundance whateveris abundant in your heart,
that's what comes out.
So if you want to see what ismy heart like, take a look at
what you say.
Take a look at your mouth.
Speaker 2 (25:33):
Take a look at the things that you say.
Got to go to a break FatherMario.
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Great, great, great great.
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And speech can be very regionally distinctive,
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dorm room?
One is from New York City, oneis from Boston, one is from
Chicago, one is from Miami andthe fifth one is from Lubbock
Texas, and they can't evencommunicate?
They all speak only English,but their accents are so thick
they have to write it downbefore they can understand what
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each other's saying.
Speaker 4 (29:31):
That's crazy.
Speaker 1 (29:31):
Yes, but that's what happens.
Speaker 4 (29:33):
It can be.
Speaker 1 (29:34):
Because the pronunciation is so radically
different?
Speaker 4 (29:36):
Yeah, yeah.
Speaker 1 (29:38):
Like the rain in Spain, stays mainly in the plain
.
Stays mainly in the plain.
Speaker 4 (29:41):
Yes, All right.
Well, what about?
Here's one use of languageLying, lying.
Speaker 1 (29:49):
That's not true?
Speaker 4 (29:50):
No, just kidding.
I mean, Stuart.
Yes.
What does your tradition sayabout lying?
Is it a good thing, bad thing?
Speaker 1 (29:58):
Of course it's a bad thing.
Okay, the thing I find mostoften with people is that they
feel like they have been lied to, and I always have to point out
to them that they were toldthings that were not true, but
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the people who told it to themweren't lying, because lying
requires the intent to deceive.
And even if they were toldthings that were not true, the
person who told it to thembelieved it.
They weren't trying to deceivethem.
It's just that what they wereteaching was wrong.
Speaker 2 (30:44):
Is lying always wrong ?
No, no, of course not.
Speaker 1 (30:48):
No, it's like anything, anything at all, any
act.
You can create circumstanceswhere it's the right thing to do
and you can createcircumstances where it's the
wrong thing to do.
Speaker 2 (30:58):
Lying is one of them.
Yeah, because it's interestingwhen I hear confessions.
Periodically, I hear people sayyou know I have lied.
And I said what about?
I said, well, they say to mewell, what does it matter, it's
a lie.
And I go, so is that a badthing?
And of course it's a bad thing.
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Lying is bad.
And I said what if?
Let me give you the.
I can think of a couple.
Yeah, just let me give you the,the I can think of a couple.
Yeah, just let me give you anextreme situation.
Uh, let's say that, uh, amurderer is seeking to find a
person who has who they'rechasing and uh, they just ran by
and they just ran by you.
You're gonna say, if you ask, ifthey ask you, have you seen
(31:41):
them and you go.
Uh no, which way do they go?
Are you supposed?
Have you seen them and you go?
Speaker 9 (31:43):
no, which way do they go?
Speaker 2 (31:44):
Are you supposed to?
You know how I always tellpeople to make the distinction
that the truth is a combinationbetween fact and love.
Speaker 1 (31:57):
Okay.
Speaker 2 (31:57):
In other words, if you're telling the fact which
does not need to lead to love,it is therefore not the full
truth.
And now, of course, I get thisfrom Jesus, okay.
Speaker 1 (32:12):
I am the way.
Speaker 2 (32:13):
Wait say that last part again If it's not say it
again If you're saying the fact,but the fact does not lead to
love, it is not true.
Speaker 4 (32:24):
Okay, does not lead to love, it is not true, okay,
in other words, to speak truth,you must to say what just to
speak to me too.
Speaker 2 (32:34):
Okay to speak, to speak you say the truth see, the
truth is a combination of factand love oh, fact and love okay
truth is a combination speak tofact and love right, that's
right, it's
Speaker 1 (32:46):
factual without love.
It's not the truth.
If it's love.
Speaker 2 (32:49):
It's not the full truth if it's love without the
facts, yeah because if god is uh, well for us in terms of
christianity, if god is true andhis love, there's no
distinction between the two ofthem.
The truth must be love in orderloving in order for it to be
(33:10):
the truth.
Speaker 4 (33:15):
So the most loving thing to do in the situation
that you described a moment agois not to tell the person the
facts, the fact See, I make thedistinction Because it would
lead to a murder or injury.
Speaker 2 (33:24):
I make the distinction between the fact and
the intent.
If the intent is loving and itmatches with the fact, you say
that's the truth.
Okay.
If the intent is harmful and itmatches with the fact, that's
not the truth.
Speaker 4 (33:43):
Well, so many people lie to cover up things they've
done.
Speaker 2 (33:47):
Yeah, well, you know how does that work?
Speaker 4 (33:50):
Could that be?
Speaker 2 (33:51):
Yeah, I mean, for example, if you know when I go,
when I am invited somewhere andI don't really feel like going.
Well, I don't know if this iswhat you're referring to, but I
can say no, I really am busysome other place and you can say
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well, you can make up somethingin your own head.
But in effect you're misleading.
But misleading is not wrong ifit is done out of a motive of
love, because you don't want tohurt their feelings.
Or like, for example, a littlegirl puts on all her mom's
makeup and her shoes and shelooks like a freaking clown and
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she goes do I look beautiful?
You don't say, oh, you lookstupid, right?
You don't say that becausethere's a mixture.
It has to lead to love, right?
Speaker 1 (34:41):
similarly does this dress make me look fat.
Speaker 4 (34:45):
You're wearing dresses now, Stuart.
What is that?
Golly Boy and women?
Oh, okay, okay.
Speaker 8 (34:55):
No, what you say is no, but you need to get your
eyes checked.
Speaker 2 (34:57):
There we go there we go Okay, this is.
Speaker 4 (34:59):
Oh, we've got five more minutes, we still do yeah,
paul said in Ephesians leteveryone speak truth to his
neighbor.
So if truth in that particularcase and I'm assuming neighbor
is broader than just the personwho lives next door, right,
right, speaking truth.
Speaking truth is generally thething that you want to do.
Speaker 2 (35:21):
But don't confuse truth with fact.
Speaker 4 (35:23):
Don't yeah, Because facts sometimes can be
misleading.
Speaker 2 (35:29):
Especially if it's not loving.
Speaker 1 (35:30):
Yeah yeah, have you ever seen the movie Absence of
Malice?
Speaker 4 (35:37):
It's been a long time Gosh, I don't.
Speaker 1 (35:42):
I can't think of the names of the actors and
actresses, but basically thetheme of the movie is that you
can tell something that'stotally factual and absolutely
untrue and you can say somethingthat's totally true but not
based on fact, that's right.
Speaker 4 (36:00):
It's a great movie.
That's exactly what I'mreferring to what about there?
About another aspect We'll getRudy in here just in a minute,
but to think about the lack ofcivility in speech of late in
culture.
Speaker 1 (36:20):
And on our internet and in Facebook comments.
Speaker 2 (36:24):
But if you think about it, that's a lack of love.
Speaker 4 (36:27):
Well it is, that's exactly right.
Speaker 2 (36:29):
That's right.
Speaker 4 (36:29):
Lack of civility, rudy, are you civil on the
internet?
Speaker 6 (36:38):
I, you know I used to be way more involved in
answering people and, you know,trying to make a point, but
honestly I rarely get on anymoreand answer anything.
I just found that it just, Idon't know, it tended to take my
peace of mind and one of thethings there's this saying in
(37:07):
proverbs 18 and so the tonguehas the power of life and death.
Right, and it's interestingbecause there's a sort of dual
nature of speech.
Right, it's.
It's creative and destructive.
We participate in the image andlikeness of God.
So to say that you know whatyou were saying earlier, david,
(37:28):
to say that you know words, andstill you know they make my
words, will never hurt me.
It's not true you know we canreally, we can really tear
somebody down and drive them toto a point, you know.
So, when we fail to see ourneighbor with the same dignity,
(37:52):
right, that in essence God seesus, right, we fail to reflect
Him in that love.
Going back to what Father Mariowas saying, then speech really
just becomes a means ofdestruction and what we find is
absolute chaos, right, which iswhat we find ourselves in today
(38:13):
in this world, and with theconstant war, with the constant,
you know, sort of death andeverything just seems so
apocalyptic.
And it's just there's thiscomment that you know, father
Mario said it a couple times, Iknow's just there's this comment
that you know, I've told theMarius a couple times.
I know we've got to go to abreak, but it's almost.
We bring God's wrath sort of onourselves by failing to see each
(38:39):
other in the same light of thisImago Dei, and when we stop
treating and it starts with theway that we speak to each other
right, and that doesn't meanthat we have to lie to each
other, right, we should betruthful, right, god is truth
and love right, love is truth.
But that doesn't mean that Ihave to be in a way that's
harmful to you or with harmfulwords, right, I don't have to
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distort that image of God thatwe all bear, and I mean to some
very large degree.
I would even say that speech isreally a sacred faculty, right?
I mean, it's something thatreally creates or destroys.
It's kind of incredible how Godallows us to kind of
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participate in that tooObviously not to the same degree
, right?
Speaker 4 (39:30):
I thought about Martin Luther King and how his
words were so powerful in hisspeeches and his books and he
helped create that world in asense that brought about greater
justice not where, no, we needto be, ought to be, but greater
justice and and the the civilrights movement.
(39:52):
So without those words, many ofthose mine, from the scriptures
, book of amos, book, psalms,words of j, many of them from
there, they helped create thisnew world, just like God's world
.
Speaker 2 (40:09):
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Speaker 4 (43:21):
There you go.
I mean, that's powerful.
That's powerful stuff.
I mean the voice.
Thank you, miranda.
Thank you, that's powerful,that's powerful stuff.
I mean the voice.
Thank you, miranda.
Thank you, that's fantastic.
That's an example of that whichwas used to move the world and
change a nation.
And eventually, you know, movesout.
The little drop in the watermoves out to other parts as well
(43:44):
.
So there's a passage in thebook of James that talks about
can you get salt water and canyou get fresh water from the
same spring?
And obviously you can't.
And it goes on to ask thequestion how is it that our
(44:06):
tongue can praise God and yettear down our neighbor?
With the same tongue, we?
Speaker 1 (44:14):
praise the one, god, human choice.
Speaker 4 (44:18):
The issue isn't the speech, it's how we use it but
it's like, it's like a spring,you know that gives sweet and
bitter water at the same time.
Speaker 1 (44:31):
Right, because it's not the water, it's how we use
the water, and you can have saltwater and fresh water come out
of the same thing.
You just need a salt shaker.
Speaker 4 (44:48):
Smart Alec.
But the point is, we whobelieve, who go to church, go to
synagogue and praise God withour mouth, should we take it out
on the next day or the next dayand use it to run down, destroy
, corrupt?
Speaker 1 (45:08):
again, words that heal, but it should not be.
Speaker 4 (45:13):
That's the point.
It shouldn't be that way.
From the same mouth should notcome bitterness as well as
praise, but it does.
It's a part of urging people tothink differently about their
speech, and that's what James ison about.
(45:33):
He's trying to help us to seethat this grand, wonderful,
amazing gift of speech that wehave can be used for such great
good, great terror at the sametime, and urging us to choose
and to seek to live better livesin God's eyes.
(45:56):
At that point I don't know.
Is it just a choice?
Go ahead, rudy.
Speaker 6 (46:06):
I would argue, of course, from the Catholic
tradition.
It's something that is directlytied to sin, right, the more we
sin, the more disordered webecome, the more corrupt, let's
say, our reality, ourunderstanding becomes when this
(46:32):
misuse of speech becomes, howwould you say, a habit, right,
it's something that has to belearned, it has to be sort of
inculcated into somebody.
It's, there's this famous bookI forget the title, but it has
to do with these German soldiersand we're taken right,
(46:58):
initially, to a particular campand were told by their commander
, right, that they would have todo these gruesome tasks.
And when they first started,these tasks were abhorrent.
(47:19):
They were ordered, you know, tokill, to maim, to rape, to do
all these things, and many ofthem in Italy, you know.
They vomited, they couldn't doit.
But over time, what happened?
They became sort of a habit,right, it became something that
they had performed.
Speaker 1 (47:39):
Yep, it became easier .
It became easier.
Speaker 6 (47:43):
Right, exactly so, and unfortunately I think that's
what we have in our culture isthe more we've drifted away,
going sort of back to thisinherent understanding that all
people are created in the imageand likeness of God, the more we
move away from that as aculture, the easier it becomes
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for me to destroy you with mywords, especially easier with my
words and especially with thedetachment that we have today
with technology.
I mean when I can sit here andnot do you David or Father, and
I can just write you a text andsay you know, you guys are
always wrong, but I never seeyou, and it just becomes so
(48:30):
impersonal.
But if I'm telling you that toyour face, you can hide behind
being anonymous Also helps.
Exactly.
That's why it's so importantwhat David was saying earlier,
these non-verbals, right, whatDavid was saying earlier, these
non-verbals, right, thesenon-verbals, they are a
fundamental part of the way wecommunicate and I mean, I would
argue to some degree, speech,right, I mean we could get into
(48:56):
what exactly speech is if it'ssomething only that a vocal cord
comes out of.
But I mean, to some largeextent, I think it has
everything to do with how wecommunicate towards each other,
right, even down to the way wedress, we carry ourselves.
I mean, it just talks about usas much as it talks about our
community and culture.
Speaker 1 (49:16):
Rudy quick story.
It goes along, I think, withwhat you're saying.
But when I was the Hilleldirector it included the Baylor
College of Medicine and theyteach surgery and the surgeon
even though the patient is outcold from the anesthesia.
The surgeon has to watch whatthey say and there's an
(49:39):
automatic human response.
Where something goes wrong anda person will verbally respond
to it without thinking somethingwill happen.
It'll go oh, shoot, okay, andthat's not the word I had in
mind.
And there's literally a place inthe brain that these words of
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exclamation are stored and whatyou put in there is what you're
going to get out of it.
So the surgeons literally haveto retrain their brain to put
different words in that littlesection.
So, god forbid, if on thesurgery, on the operating table,
something goes bad, they don'tsay something that's going to
(50:29):
scare, even though they're outcold, their bodies will react
and it'll be something like uh,I don't know what, candy bar or
something innocuous, and that'sthe word that they're there
because your vocal cords like,go to this part of your brain,
grab the word and say it withouteven thinking.
And they have to change thewords in that section of the
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brain so they don't scare thepatient on the table.
Speaker 4 (50:55):
Who may be completely out of it.
Speaker 1 (50:57):
They're completely out of it, but they're,
physically, will react to this,to what they're consciously,
subconsciously, whatever,hearing, and so you got to be
careful what you put in yourbrain.
Speaker 6 (51:07):
You've got to be careful how you teach yourself
to speak the amount ofdocumented cases I've read from
neurosurgeons, neurologists andpeople that have been proclaimed
dead, okay, and somehow theyhave this out-of-body experience
(51:27):
and they're able to hear thingsin the room, in the next room
and then for some miracle, theycome back and they remember it
exactly what was going on andthey can tell the surgeon
exactly what they heard, who didwhat, where they were standing
and be right.
Speaker 5 (51:44):
So the surgeon has to be careful with what they say.
Speaker 1 (51:48):
So they have to train themselves, because what you
put in is what you're going toget out.
Speaker 2 (51:54):
So let me ask a question what does humor do?
Speaker 1 (51:59):
Also speech.
But there are different kindsof humor too.
I can make a joke at yourexpense.
Speaker 2 (52:09):
Yeah, but what does good humor?
Speaker 1 (52:11):
I mean, let's, the good humor man.
Ice cream no.
Speaker 2 (52:15):
What does it?
Because it teaches us to view,I think, the idiosyncrasies of
life.
Speaker 1 (52:23):
Right.
The absurdities of life.
Humor can also teach us.
Speaker 2 (52:28):
Yeah, it can teach us , yeah.
Speaker 4 (52:31):
I mean, I think humor is amazing, yeah, amazing gift
of speech.
Speaker 1 (52:36):
If you read the Bible in Hebrew, there are puns,
there are plays on words, thereare jokes.
Yeah, and it's subtle, but it'sthere.
And in the same way that I saythis about love, I also say this
about humor.
God loves humor in us so muchthat God gives us the ability to
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have humor.
Speaker 2 (53:00):
Yeah, by the way, did you hear the story?
Which one?
Speaker 1 (53:07):
Oh boy, here we go.
Speaker 2 (53:09):
The story about the monk that joined a silent order.
They were not allowed to speak.
They could only speak two wordsevery five years.
Every five years, every fiveyears, every two words every
five years.
And this monk goes in and hespends the first five years and
his superior comes up and sayswhat two words every five years.
And this monk goes in and thefirst, he spends the first five
years and his superior comes up,says what two words.
He says bad food.
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Then 10 years later, his turn.
Two words are now and he saystoo cold.
The third year, the after 15years, he gets the third chance
and he says hard bed.
And then after 20 years he saysI quit.
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And the master says whathappened?
And he says I don't know.
But ever since he's been hereall he's done is complain.
Speaker 1 (54:08):
Very good, very good.
See how speech is important.
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
Speaker 4 (54:11):
No, I think it's just a part of the gift of speech,
right, and I know we've got togo here in a minute, but some
great people out there that helpmake us laugh by observing
things in such humorous, butthrough their speech, speech
they make us appreciate itDarrell Bock.
Speaker 2 (54:26):
They make us laugh.
Speaker 4 (54:27):
Darrell Bock.
Speaker 3 (54:27):
All right, father Mario we've got to go, father
Mario.
Speaker 4 (54:29):
Yes, darrell Bock On a Friday night, father Mario On
a Friday night.
Speaker 3 (54:32):
I know Sunday night Darrell Bock, yes, Sunday,
father.
Speaker 2 (54:33):
Mario.
Speaker 5 (54:34):
Sunday night.
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Faith and tomorrow, happy MartinLuther King Day and
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Well, I guess it would be nice if I could touch
your body.
I know, not everybody has got abody like you, but I gotta
think twice before I put myheart away.
And I know all the games youplay because I play them too.
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Oh, but I need some time offfrom that emotion Time to get my
heart back off the floor.
Oh, well, never comes down withan emotion.
Well, it takes a strong man,baby.
But I won't shoot the doorCause I gotta have faith.
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I've got to have faith BecauseI've got to have faith.
Faith, faith.
I've got to have faith, faith,faith.
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Speaker 4 (01:47):
Hey, great to be with you guys again this evening on
the cold night in Houston.
Speaker 2 (01:52):
The night before the inauguration.
Speaker 4 (01:54):
I know, yeah, it's been moved indoors apparently.
Speaker 1 (01:57):
I don't like super cold, I don't like super hot.
Speaker 2 (02:02):
Then you must not like me.
Speaker 4 (02:04):
Super hot.
Speaker 2 (02:06):
yes, yes, but not cold, not cold, no, but I'm
super hot.
Speaker 1 (02:12):
Let's see Rudy.
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Kog is our millennial .
Speaker 1 (02:15):
He's a systems engineer, has his master's
degree in theology from theUniversity of St Thomas Rudy.
Speaker 6 (02:20):
Howdy, howdy.
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Hey, I am Rabbi Stuart Federo, retired rabbi
from Congregation Sha'arHaShalom in the Clear Lake area
of Houston, texas.
Howdy, howdy, although we'drather you email us.
Speaker 4 (02:54):
And Jim and Miranda and Crystal help us sound
fantastic.
It takes a hot priest too.
Yeah, that makes all thedifference.
Speaker 6 (03:04):
Hey, rudy, is it going to be snowing down in
Guatemala in the next couple ofdays?
They don't call it the eternalspring for nothing, and let me
tell you, the weather here isactually pretty much the most
consistently fantastic I've everbeen in in my life.
Speaker 4 (03:15):
It's great steward is going to be moving down soon
because he doesn't like hot orcold.
Speaker 6 (03:20):
No, I don't well, you just have to deal with
volcanoes and earthquakes and alittle bit of unstable
government, you know, but that'sgreat.
Speaker 4 (03:30):
Great.
A little bit of unstablegovernment, okay.
Well, we've been up here andwe've had unstable government
for a big unstable governmentfor a while.
All right, hey, this is MartinLuther King weekend.
Speaker 7 (03:45):
Yes.
Speaker 4 (03:47):
And it's really appropriate, Stuart, that you
have chosen the idea of speech.
Yes, language Because languageis so very powerful and
influential.
Speaker 1 (04:02):
Words can hurt, words can heal, and influential words
can hurt, words can heal.
And there's a bunch of versesthat come to mind in the hebrew
scriptures about speech.
So, for example uh, god spokeand the world came into
existence.
Open up my lips that my mouthmay declare your glory.
Guard my lips from speaking,guile.
Speaker 2 (04:25):
Uh, plenty of verses in the hebrew scriptures about
speaking I used to have aprofessor that we used to call
ether lips ether lips.
Speaker 1 (04:35):
yeah, because what he spoke would put you to sleep.
I think we've all hadprofessors like that.
Yeah, oh, but animals theycommunicate with each other, but
I don't think they really havespeech, not to the degree or the
sophistication that humans do.
You know, dogs, cats, pets theycan make their will known so
(05:03):
they can communicate, but itisn't speech, no.
Speaker 4 (05:07):
So speech is a specifically human advantage or
characteristic or whatever youwant to call it, but if you
listen to communication experts,they tell us that about 70% of
what we communicate is reallynon-verbal.
Speaker 1 (05:26):
Right, yes, but that means you have to see them.
Okay, we text now, we email now.
Speaker 4 (05:32):
No, I don't mean that .
I'm talking about our body,face-to-face, the body language.
Speaker 1 (05:37):
But that's all face-to-face.
Yeah, I wonder what percentageof communication now isn't
face-to-face because of ourelectronic world.
Yeah, like I was telling youearlier, I'm teaching this class
this past Friday in Indonesia.
Speaker 4 (05:54):
75 students there and we're 12 hours, 13 hours apart.
It's their evening, my morning,and you know a lot of
communication goes on betweenthem and me, and me and them,
but that's the way the worldworks.
Speaker 1 (06:10):
Now it's not face-to-face Exactly, but there
are rules for speech, there arerules of etiquette for speech
and there are rules foretiquette of the written word,
like in an email or a textmessage.
There are certain things youwill say and certain things you
(06:32):
will not say.
There's a certain way to saythings when we do it
electronically.
There are rules that we follow.
Either we know the rules or wedon't know them, or we know them
in the back of our heads.
We follow them even withoutthinking, and I'm not talking
grammar.
I'm talking about how youformulate whatever it is you're
(06:57):
trying to communicate.
Okay, we now have the littlesymbol Emojis, emojis, emojis to
help us communicate, which isspeech, but there are certain
single finger hand symbols.
(07:17):
You're not going to send overan email Talking about crude
things.
Yes, okay, there's an etiquetteto it, and etiquette are rules.
So we organize our speech.
We have rules about not onlyhow you can say, which would be
(07:38):
like grammar but also in termsof what we say, and the Bible
talks about gossip.
Speaker 4 (07:47):
So we Is it for gossip or against it?
Speaker 1 (07:53):
Pretty sure it's against it, okay, I want to make
sure I'm against it.
Speaker 4 (07:55):
You're against it.
Speaker 1 (07:56):
I'm against it.
All right.
So speech is one of the mostpowerful we have.
Well, I'm not sure I caninclude Rudy is one of the most
powerful we have.
Well, I'm not sure I caninclude Rudy, but we have three
clergy who, until retirement atleast, we were having to give
speeches, sermons.
Well, mario still does it.
(08:17):
Yes, he does.
And you also teach, yeah, andI'm free.
No, just kidding.
So Everything that we do teach,yeah, so, and I'm free, notice.
So everything that we do interms of speech has expectations
(08:41):
.
So I just think, and speech alsoour language, what we say, how
we say, how we say it, who wesay it to, what we say to one
person about someone else, whichmay or may not be actual gossip
.
Okay, a lot of times it is, wedon't think it is, but that's
why I thought we would talkabout speech tonight, because of
its incredible importance, andI think it was Rudy who brought
(09:05):
up the idea about how do we talkto God.
You know, we, I would hope,approach God with respect, love,
but is it okay to be angry atGod?
And if it is, is that reflectedin what we say to God?
I mean, it can go in so manydifferent directions, but that's
(09:30):
why I thought I would bring itup.
So, prayer being a part of that, and prayer is a part of that,
although we've talked aboutprayer in recent weeks, I even
think Well, one of the dumbestthings I ever heard was sticks
and stones can break my bones,but words will never hurt me,
right?
Speaker 4 (09:48):
That's one of the dumbest things anybody has ever
said, has ever put into poeticform Now.
I've been hurt with some sticksand stones, but probably
throughout most of my life.
I don't know about you, mario,but the greatest pains that I
have gone through have oftenbeen words spoken to me.
Words spoken about me Right Canbe very painful and very
(10:12):
lasting.
I remember talking to a womanone time whose husband was
verbally abusive to her and shesaid I wish that he would hit me
because I know that that painwould go away quicker than the
verbal abuse she really did.
(10:34):
And I think when she said thatshe really meant it, that she
would prefer to be hit than tobe talked to the way that she no
, he talked to her Right.
So I mean that's one thing, andthe other thing that is wise is
the pen is mightier than thesword.
(10:58):
Right that words spoken, wordswritten can have a great deal of
power.
Not just God's word when hesays let there be light.
Speaker 1 (11:11):
Brought the world into being.
But, the things that we say.
There's a book and I actuallyreferred to it, not obviously by
Rabbi Joseph Telushkin, calledWords that Heal, words that Hurt
, words that Hurt, words thatHeal.
It's a great book.
On watching our speech.
Could you go?
(11:34):
Oh, mario, there are, if Iremember correctly, retreats
like for a weekend in theCatholic tradition, where for
the whole weekend nobody speaks.
That's correct.
Why?
What's the advantage to havinga weekend where you're not
(11:56):
talking?
Speaker 2 (11:58):
It's to deepen your understanding of the deeper word
that's inside.
Speaker 1 (12:04):
What does that mean?
Speaker 2 (12:06):
This is something that I was thinking while you
guys were talking the word.
I think it's extremelyimportant that God speaks
creation into existence.
That means that speech in someway is a communicator of spirit,
(12:28):
which is why they hurt so muchand they can heal, because there
is an actual communication ofspirit occurring and when God
speaks to us, he speaks.
I'm responding to your question.
The reason that you are silentin the Catholic Spinal Retreat
(12:53):
is that God's spirit cancommunicate with your spirit and
many times what is lacking isspeech.
Listening to God speaks,listening Right, yeah, because I
always tell people prayer is98% listening, but you'll have
to listen to something and whatyou listen to is God's speech to
(13:17):
you, so you have to turn offyour own speech to hear God's.
Yeah, have you ever thoughtabout trying to think without
speech?
Speaker 1 (13:26):
No.
Speaker 2 (13:27):
You can't, you can't, and so it's interesting,
because then you can go linkthat insight to my thoughts are
not your thoughts and my wordsare not your words.
As high as the heavens are abovethe earth.
Are my thoughts above yourthoughts and your words above my
words, my words above my words?
So I think that the answer toyou is you quit irrelevant or
(13:52):
superficial speech in order tolisten to the deeper speech.
And it's the same thing withhuman beings.
With human beings, if you onlyspeak superficially to each
other, you end up not being incommon union, right.
But if you only if you makesure to intentionally speak
(14:14):
something that is substantive,substantive then you enter into
common union.
It's always.
I find it interesting thatjesus said if, if my words stay
a part of you, then you willremain in me and I in you.
He didn't say that only aboutthe Eucharist, he said that
about his Word.
So, I think that thecommunication of spirit and the
(14:38):
ability to be in common unionwith another….
When we come back.
Speaker 1 (14:42):
I'm not sure I understand what you mean by that
.
Speaker 2 (14:45):
My spirit.
Speaker 1 (14:47):
Are you talking about the Christian Holy Spirit?
Speaker 2 (14:49):
I'm talking about any kind of spirit.
Speaker 1 (14:53):
You mean the spiritual?
Speaker 2 (14:54):
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It's phenomenal okay, I have heard about a million
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Okay, welcome back to the show,faith and Antim sending the
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So, david, what does 25 mean toyou?
(17:55):
No, I'm just kidding, martin,you were saying what I was
talking about is spirit.
Speaker 2 (18:00):
Is that the foundation of all human
interaction is spiritual?
Okay Meaning, for example, whenI so it's two, if I am common,
listen to the word communicationor common union.
Okay, if I just go sense data,I am not.
(18:22):
I don't know you by sense data.
It's what sense datacommunicates.
That I know, and what I know isthe spirit that.
Speaker 5 (18:32):
I identify, as you know, a person's spirit.
That's right.
Speaker 2 (18:36):
And so the word is the only way you can enter into
another person's life, it's theonly way we can enter into
common union with each other islanguage.
Speaker 4 (18:49):
And part of that part of the language thing and I
want to get Rudy in here on partof this in a second but is that
we have to choose in thatcommunication moment to reveal
something of ourself?
The only way we can knowanother person is if they choose
to reveal.
What is your name?
What do you do?
(19:09):
What do?
Speaker 1 (19:09):
you like, what do you dislike?
Yeah, how do you spend?
Speaker 3 (19:12):
your time.
What's your favorite?
Speaker 4 (19:13):
right.
Chicago song 25 or 60, no, what?
Whatever, whatever it might be,wait, david revolution is a
part of, just like it is with,god.
We wouldn't know God except forthe fact that God reveals
himself, he acts and speaks todisclose himself to us.
Speaker 1 (19:29):
So you're trying to say that we're not mind readers?
Speaker 4 (19:32):
We are not, not really Now.
We do have intuitions and we dohave things that we pick up on
that are bodily based, becausewe are embodied creatures and
our bodies do, in a sense,betray what's on the inside or
tell what's on the inside, andso, gifted communicators, if a
(19:57):
person's a speaker, let's say ina conference or something, he
or she can normally sort of lookat the audience and tell the
degree to which the audience iscapturing what he or she is
saying, right, how they'reresponding, right, right.
Speaker 1 (20:11):
So, Rudy, are you a mind reader?
Speaker 6 (20:17):
I don't know if I would even want to be a mind
reader.
Can you imagine that?
What about your wife?
Speaker 4 (20:23):
I would like to read her mind a little bit.
Speaker 11 (20:27):
No, no, if you could read my mind love.
Speaker 4 (20:30):
That could be a scary , scary thing, right it's a
scary thing.
Speaker 6 (20:35):
No, no no.
Speaker 4 (20:37):
So let me ask, rudy have you ever been on a silent
retreat?
Speaker 6 (20:42):
Yeah, I actually, funny enough, I did a.
There was a time where I kindof was sort of discerning
whether I was being called tothe priesthood and I took a.
I mean, I went on a retreat andit was a silent retreat and the
(21:06):
focus was, just like FatherMario said, to listen.
You know, especially in today'sday and age there's so much
noise.
And I went to this retreat Idon't know if you guys are
familiar with it, it's onMemorial, are familiar with it?
(21:28):
It's on memorial.
I don't know if maybe they gotflooded out after no, it's a
little bit before Harvey.
But I feel nice, that's a calm.
Passion is good yeah, it's aholy name retreat house, mm-hmm
right it's called holy nameretreat the holy name retreat
and and it was, it was actually,it was actually pretty great.
I mean, when you're in it, likethe first night and the first
day, you're sort of like atleast for myself, I was antsy,
(21:54):
but then near the end of it, man, I didn't even want to pick up
my phone, I didn't even want toreally listen to music, I didn't
.
You know, I got out and therewas traffic and people are
honking and you're just like, oh, this is just terrible and it's
.
It's interesting when we, whenwe talk about speech right, and
it's, I think, it in in somereal aspect, it's sort of a
(22:17):
mirror to the soul.
It kind of reveals who we areand and what we value, right.
And it's interesting becausethere's a lot of sort of debate
between you know, whether speechemerged as sort of a pure
biological function, right,because there's some animals
that can mimic speech, likethere's even parrots that show
(22:40):
advanced communication, right,they can identify colors, shapes
, all kinds of different things,right.
Or is it more of a culturalconstruct?
And I was thinking about thisbecause there's this tribe.
It's kind of a how would I sayit?
It's kind of a remote tribe andthey don't have certain things
(23:04):
like speech recursion, right.
So the way that they say things, we would think of it as sort
of very how would I say, sort offundamental right.
There's not a lot of complexityto the language and frankly, I
think about this of English,actually, because my sister is a
(23:28):
speech and language pathologistI think it is, but she works
with people that have, forexample, they were in an
accident, right, and they havesome sort of brain damage, so
they have to relearn how to makesounds, and English is actually
one of the most complexlanguages of sounds that has
(23:54):
ever existed, with Chineseactually coming after.
So people think about English.
It's why a lot of people thatare not native speakers of
English or weren't or didn'tgrow up with English, have
difficulty with particular words.
So one thing I think about Iknow it's almost time to go, but
(24:14):
how much you know in this sortof Judeo-Christian culture that
we've grown in, right, how muchhas that actually developed our
word usage, our language, theway we speak, the way we speak,
the way we engage communally,culturally, with each other, I
mean, I think they'refundamentally tied to each other
.
Speaker 4 (24:33):
I think you're right in a lot of ways.
Let me I know we've got to goto a break here in just a second
, but let me quote Jesus,because I think you were in a a
sense quoting Jesus a moment ago.
You didn't, you didn't realizeit, but you when you talked
about that I don't use this wordor not but that the mouth
language is kind of a goodbarometer for the heart, right?
(24:55):
I mean, you get a measure ofthe heart, jesus and Luke.
Luke's Gospel says the goodperson out of the good treasure
of his heart produces good.
The evil person out of his eviltreasure produces evil.
For out of the abundance of theheart, the mouth speaks.
(25:17):
Out of the abundance whateveris abundant in your heart,
that's what comes out.
So if you want to see what ismy heart like, take a look at
what you say.
Take a look at your mouth.
Speaker 2 (25:33):
Take a look at the things that you say.
Got to go to a break FatherMario.
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Welcome back to a show of favorites.
Great, great, great great.
Speaker 1 (28:58):
And speech can be very regionally distinctive,
shall we?
Speaker 4 (29:04):
say oh, it is Absolutely.
Speaker 1 (29:09):
Can you imagine being with four other people in a
dorm room?
One is from New York City, oneis from Boston, one is from
Chicago, one is from Miami andthe fifth one is from Lubbock
Texas, and they can't evencommunicate?
They all speak only English,but their accents are so thick
they have to write it downbefore they can understand what
(29:29):
each other's saying.
Speaker 4 (29:31):
That's crazy.
Speaker 1 (29:31):
Yes, but that's what happens.
Speaker 4 (29:33):
It can be.
Speaker 1 (29:34):
Because the pronunciation is so radically
different?
Speaker 4 (29:36):
Yeah, yeah.
Speaker 1 (29:38):
Like the rain in Spain, stays mainly in the plain
.
Stays mainly in the plain.
Speaker 4 (29:41):
Yes, All right.
Well, what about?
Here's one use of languageLying, lying.
Speaker 1 (29:49):
That's not true?
Speaker 4 (29:50):
No, just kidding.
I mean, Stuart.
Yes.
What does your tradition sayabout lying?
Is it a good thing, bad thing?
Speaker 1 (29:58):
Of course it's a bad thing.
Okay, the thing I find mostoften with people is that they
feel like they have been lied to, and I always have to point out
to them that they were toldthings that were not true, but
(30:28):
the people who told it to themweren't lying, because lying
requires the intent to deceive.
And even if they were toldthings that were not true, the
person who told it to thembelieved it.
They weren't trying to deceivethem.
It's just that what they wereteaching was wrong.
Speaker 2 (30:44):
Is lying always wrong ?
No, no, of course not.
Speaker 1 (30:48):
No, it's like anything, anything at all, any
act.
You can create circumstanceswhere it's the right thing to do
and you can createcircumstances where it's the
wrong thing to do.
Speaker 2 (30:58):
Lying is one of them.
Yeah, because it's interestingwhen I hear confessions.
Periodically, I hear people sayyou know I have lied.
And I said what about?
I said, well, they say to mewell, what does it matter, it's
a lie.
And I go, so is that a badthing?
And of course it's a bad thing.
(31:18):
Lying is bad.
And I said what if?
Let me give you the.
I can think of a couple.
Yeah, just let me give you the,the I can think of a couple.
Yeah, just let me give you anextreme situation.
Uh, let's say that, uh, amurderer is seeking to find a
person who has who they'rechasing and uh, they just ran by
and they just ran by you.
You're gonna say, if you ask, ifthey ask you, have you seen
(31:41):
them and you go.
Uh no, which way do they go?
Are you supposed?
Have you seen them and you go?
Speaker 9 (31:43):
no, which way do they go?
Speaker 2 (31:44):
Are you supposed to?
You know how I always tellpeople to make the distinction
that the truth is a combinationbetween fact and love.
Speaker 1 (31:57):
Okay.
Speaker 2 (31:57):
In other words, if you're telling the fact which
does not need to lead to love,it is therefore not the full
truth.
And now, of course, I get thisfrom Jesus, okay.
Speaker 1 (32:12):
I am the way.
Speaker 2 (32:13):
Wait say that last part again If it's not say it
again If you're saying the fact,but the fact does not lead to
love, it is not true.
Speaker 4 (32:24):
Okay, does not lead to love, it is not true, okay,
in other words, to speak truth,you must to say what just to
speak to me too.
Speaker 2 (32:34):
Okay to speak, to speak you say the truth see, the
truth is a combination of factand love oh, fact and love okay
truth is a combination speak tofact and love right, that's
right, it's
Speaker 1 (32:46):
factual without love.
It's not the truth.
If it's love.
Speaker 2 (32:49):
It's not the full truth if it's love without the
facts, yeah because if god is uh, well for us in terms of
christianity, if god is true andhis love, there's no
distinction between the two ofthem.
The truth must be love in orderloving in order for it to be
(33:10):
the truth.
Speaker 4 (33:15):
So the most loving thing to do in the situation
that you described a moment agois not to tell the person the
facts, the fact See, I make thedistinction Because it would
lead to a murder or injury.
Speaker 2 (33:24):
I make the distinction between the fact and
the intent.
If the intent is loving and itmatches with the fact, you say
that's the truth.
Okay.
If the intent is harmful and itmatches with the fact, that's
not the truth.
Speaker 4 (33:43):
Well, so many people lie to cover up things they've
done.
Speaker 2 (33:47):
Yeah, well, you know how does that work?
Speaker 4 (33:50):
Could that be?
Speaker 2 (33:51):
Yeah, I mean, for example, if you know when I go,
when I am invited somewhere andI don't really feel like going.
Well, I don't know if this iswhat you're referring to, but I
can say no, I really am busysome other place and you can say
(34:11):
well, you can make up somethingin your own head.
But in effect you're misleading.
But misleading is not wrong ifit is done out of a motive of
love, because you don't want tohurt their feelings.
Or like, for example, a littlegirl puts on all her mom's
makeup and her shoes and shelooks like a freaking clown and
(34:31):
she goes do I look beautiful?
You don't say, oh, you lookstupid, right?
You don't say that becausethere's a mixture.
It has to lead to love, right?
Speaker 1 (34:41):
similarly does this dress make me look fat.
Speaker 4 (34:45):
You're wearing dresses now, Stuart.
What is that?
Golly Boy and women?
Oh, okay, okay.
Speaker 8 (34:55):
No, what you say is no, but you need to get your
eyes checked.
Speaker 2 (34:57):
There we go there we go Okay, this is.
Speaker 4 (34:59):
Oh, we've got five more minutes, we still do yeah,
paul said in Ephesians leteveryone speak truth to his
neighbor.
So if truth in that particularcase and I'm assuming neighbor
is broader than just the personwho lives next door, right,
right, speaking truth.
Speaking truth is generally thething that you want to do.
Speaker 2 (35:21):
But don't confuse truth with fact.
Speaker 4 (35:23):
Don't yeah, Because facts sometimes can be
misleading.
Speaker 2 (35:29):
Especially if it's not loving.
Speaker 1 (35:30):
Yeah yeah, have you ever seen the movie Absence of
Malice?
Speaker 4 (35:37):
It's been a long time Gosh, I don't.
Speaker 1 (35:42):
I can't think of the names of the actors and
actresses, but basically thetheme of the movie is that you
can tell something that'stotally factual and absolutely
untrue and you can say somethingthat's totally true but not
based on fact, that's right.
Speaker 4 (36:00):
It's a great movie.
That's exactly what I'mreferring to what about there?
About another aspect We'll getRudy in here just in a minute,
but to think about the lack ofcivility in speech of late in
culture.
Speaker 1 (36:20):
And on our internet and in Facebook comments.
Speaker 2 (36:24):
But if you think about it, that's a lack of love.
Speaker 4 (36:27):
Well it is, that's exactly right.
Speaker 2 (36:29):
That's right.
Speaker 4 (36:29):
Lack of civility, rudy, are you civil on the
internet?
Speaker 6 (36:38):
I, you know I used to be way more involved in
answering people and, you know,trying to make a point, but
honestly I rarely get on anymoreand answer anything.
I just found that it just, Idon't know, it tended to take my
peace of mind and one of thethings there's this saying in
(37:07):
proverbs 18 and so the tonguehas the power of life and death.
Right, and it's interestingbecause there's a sort of dual
nature of speech.
Right, it's.
It's creative and destructive.
We participate in the image andlikeness of God.
So to say that you know whatyou were saying earlier, david,
(37:28):
to say that you know words, andstill you know they make my
words, will never hurt me.
It's not true you know we canreally, we can really tear
somebody down and drive them toto a point, you know.
So, when we fail to see ourneighbor with the same dignity,
(37:52):
right, that in essence God seesus, right, we fail to reflect
Him in that love.
Going back to what Father Mariowas saying, then speech really
just becomes a means ofdestruction and what we find is
absolute chaos, right, which iswhat we find ourselves in today
(38:13):
in this world, and with theconstant war, with the constant,
you know, sort of death andeverything just seems so
apocalyptic.
And it's just there's thiscomment that you know, father
Mario said it a couple times, Iknow's just there's this comment
that you know, I've told theMarius a couple times.
I know we've got to go to abreak, but it's almost.
We bring God's wrath sort of onourselves by failing to see each
(38:39):
other in the same light of thisImago Dei, and when we stop
treating and it starts with theway that we speak to each other
right, and that doesn't meanthat we have to lie to each
other, right, we should betruthful, right, god is truth
and love right, love is truth.
But that doesn't mean that Ihave to be in a way that's
harmful to you or with harmfulwords, right, I don't have to
(39:02):
distort that image of God thatwe all bear, and I mean to some
very large degree.
I would even say that speech isreally a sacred faculty, right?
I mean, it's something thatreally creates or destroys.
It's kind of incredible how Godallows us to kind of
(39:22):
participate in that tooObviously not to the same degree
, right?
Speaker 4 (39:30):
I thought about Martin Luther King and how his
words were so powerful in hisspeeches and his books and he
helped create that world in asense that brought about greater
justice not where, no, we needto be, ought to be, but greater
justice and and the the civilrights movement.
(39:52):
So without those words, many ofthose mine, from the scriptures
, book of amos, book, psalms,words of j, many of them from
there, they helped create thisnew world, just like God's world
.
Speaker 2 (40:09):
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Speaker 4 (43:21):
There you go.
I mean, that's powerful.
That's powerful stuff.
I mean the voice.
Thank you, miranda.
Thank you, that's powerful,that's powerful stuff.
I mean the voice.
Thank you, miranda.
Thank you, that's fantastic.
That's an example of that whichwas used to move the world and
change a nation.
And eventually, you know, movesout.
The little drop in the watermoves out to other parts as well
(43:44):
.
So there's a passage in thebook of James that talks about
can you get salt water and canyou get fresh water from the
same spring?
And obviously you can't.
And it goes on to ask thequestion how is it that our
(44:06):
tongue can praise God and yettear down our neighbor?
With the same tongue, we?
Speaker 1 (44:14):
praise the one, god, human choice.
Speaker 4 (44:18):
The issue isn't the speech, it's how we use it but
it's like, it's like a spring,you know that gives sweet and
bitter water at the same time.
Speaker 1 (44:31):
Right, because it's not the water, it's how we use
the water, and you can have saltwater and fresh water come out
of the same thing.
You just need a salt shaker.
Speaker 4 (44:48):
Smart Alec.
But the point is, we whobelieve, who go to church, go to
synagogue and praise God withour mouth, should we take it out
on the next day or the next dayand use it to run down, destroy
, corrupt?
Speaker 1 (45:08):
again, words that heal, but it should not be.
Speaker 4 (45:13):
That's the point.
It shouldn't be that way.
From the same mouth should notcome bitterness as well as
praise, but it does.
It's a part of urging people tothink differently about their
speech, and that's what James ison about.
(45:33):
He's trying to help us to seethat this grand, wonderful,
amazing gift of speech that wehave can be used for such great
good, great terror at the sametime, and urging us to choose
and to seek to live better livesin God's eyes.
(45:56):
At that point I don't know.
Is it just a choice?
Go ahead, rudy.
Speaker 6 (46:06):
I would argue, of course, from the Catholic
tradition.
It's something that is directlytied to sin, right, the more we
sin, the more disordered webecome, the more corrupt, let's
say, our reality, ourunderstanding becomes when this
(46:32):
misuse of speech becomes, howwould you say, a habit, right,
it's something that has to belearned, it has to be sort of
inculcated into somebody.
It's, there's this famous bookI forget the title, but it has
to do with these German soldiersand we're taken right,
(46:58):
initially, to a particular campand were told by their commander
, right, that they would have todo these gruesome tasks.
And when they first started,these tasks were abhorrent.
(47:19):
They were ordered, you know, tokill, to maim, to rape, to do
all these things, and many ofthem in Italy, you know.
They vomited, they couldn't doit.
But over time, what happened?
They became sort of a habit,right, it became something that
they had performed.
Speaker 1 (47:39):
Yep, it became easier .
It became easier.
Speaker 6 (47:43):
Right, exactly so, and unfortunately I think that's
what we have in our culture isthe more we've drifted away,
going sort of back to thisinherent understanding that all
people are created in the imageand likeness of God, the more we
move away from that as aculture, the easier it becomes
(48:06):
for me to destroy you with mywords, especially easier with my
words and especially with thedetachment that we have today
with technology.
I mean when I can sit here andnot do you David or Father, and
I can just write you a text andsay you know, you guys are
always wrong, but I never seeyou, and it just becomes so
(48:30):
impersonal.
But if I'm telling you that toyour face, you can hide behind
being anonymous Also helps.
Exactly.
That's why it's so importantwhat David was saying earlier,
these non-verbals, right, whatDavid was saying earlier, these
non-verbals, right, thesenon-verbals, they are a
fundamental part of the way wecommunicate and I mean, I would
argue to some degree, speech,right, I mean we could get into
(48:56):
what exactly speech is if it'ssomething only that a vocal cord
comes out of.
But I mean, to some largeextent, I think it has
everything to do with how wecommunicate towards each other,
right, even down to the way wedress, we carry ourselves.
I mean, it just talks about usas much as it talks about our
community and culture.
Speaker 1 (49:16):
Rudy quick story.
It goes along, I think, withwhat you're saying.
But when I was the Hilleldirector it included the Baylor
College of Medicine and theyteach surgery and the surgeon
even though the patient is outcold from the anesthesia.
The surgeon has to watch whatthey say and there's an
(49:39):
automatic human response.
Where something goes wrong anda person will verbally respond
to it without thinking somethingwill happen.
It'll go oh, shoot, okay, andthat's not the word I had in
mind.
And there's literally a place inthe brain that these words of
(50:06):
exclamation are stored and whatyou put in there is what you're
going to get out of it.
So the surgeons literally haveto retrain their brain to put
different words in that littlesection.
So, god forbid, if on thesurgery, on the operating table,
something goes bad, they don'tsay something that's going to
(50:29):
scare, even though they're outcold, their bodies will react
and it'll be something like uh,I don't know what, candy bar or
something innocuous, and that'sthe word that they're there
because your vocal cords like,go to this part of your brain,
grab the word and say it withouteven thinking.
And they have to change thewords in that section of the
(50:51):
brain so they don't scare thepatient on the table.
Speaker 4 (50:55):
Who may be completely out of it.
Speaker 1 (50:57):
They're completely out of it, but they're,
physically, will react to this,to what they're consciously,
subconsciously, whatever,hearing, and so you got to be
careful what you put in yourbrain.
Speaker 6 (51:07):
You've got to be careful how you teach yourself
to speak the amount ofdocumented cases I've read from
neurosurgeons, neurologists andpeople that have been proclaimed
dead, okay, and somehow theyhave this out-of-body experience
(51:27):
and they're able to hear thingsin the room, in the next room
and then for some miracle, theycome back and they remember it
exactly what was going on andthey can tell the surgeon
exactly what they heard, who didwhat, where they were standing
and be right.
Speaker 5 (51:44):
So the surgeon has to be careful with what they say.
Speaker 1 (51:48):
So they have to train themselves, because what you
put in is what you're going toget out.
Speaker 2 (51:54):
So let me ask a question what does humor do?
Speaker 1 (51:59):
Also speech.
But there are different kindsof humor too.
I can make a joke at yourexpense.
Speaker 2 (52:09):
Yeah, but what does good humor?
Speaker 1 (52:11):
I mean, let's, the good humor man.
Ice cream no.
Speaker 2 (52:15):
What does it?
Because it teaches us to view,I think, the idiosyncrasies of
life.
Speaker 1 (52:23):
Right.
The absurdities of life.
Humor can also teach us.
Speaker 2 (52:28):
Yeah, it can teach us , yeah.
Speaker 4 (52:31):
I mean, I think humor is amazing, yeah, amazing gift
of speech.
Speaker 1 (52:36):
If you read the Bible in Hebrew, there are puns,
there are plays on words, thereare jokes.
Yeah, and it's subtle, but it'sthere.
And in the same way that I saythis about love, I also say this
about humor.
God loves humor in us so muchthat God gives us the ability to
(52:59):
have humor.
Speaker 2 (53:00):
Yeah, by the way, did you hear the story?
Which one?
Speaker 1 (53:07):
Oh boy, here we go.
Speaker 2 (53:09):
The story about the monk that joined a silent order.
They were not allowed to speak.
They could only speak two wordsevery five years.
Every five years, every fiveyears, every two words every
five years.
And this monk goes in and hespends the first five years and
his superior comes up and sayswhat two words every five years.
And this monk goes in and thefirst, he spends the first five
years and his superior comes up,says what two words.
He says bad food.
(53:31):
Then 10 years later, his turn.
Two words are now and he saystoo cold.
The third year, the after 15years, he gets the third chance
and he says hard bed.
And then after 20 years he saysI quit.
(53:53):
And the master says whathappened?
And he says I don't know.
But ever since he's been hereall he's done is complain.
Speaker 1 (54:08):
Very good, very good.
See how speech is important.
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
Speaker 4 (54:11):
No, I think it's just a part of the gift of speech,
right, and I know we've got togo here in a minute, but some
great people out there that helpmake us laugh by observing
things in such humorous, butthrough their speech, speech
they make us appreciate itDarrell Bock.
Speaker 2 (54:26):
They make us laugh.
Speaker 4 (54:27):
Darrell Bock.
Speaker 3 (54:27):
All right, father Mario we've got to go, father
Mario.
Speaker 4 (54:29):
Yes, darrell Bock On a Friday night, father Mario On
a Friday night.
Speaker 3 (54:32):
I know Sunday night Darrell Bock, yes, Sunday,
father.
Speaker 2 (54:33):
Mario.
Speaker 5 (54:34):
Sunday night.
Speaker 2 (54:35):
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Faith and tomorrow, happy MartinLuther King Day and
Inauguration Day.
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