Boy Scout To Man Child

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Boundaries need to be set no longer will you be obligated to be a team player, help people in need or pay child support. 

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Wes (00:00):
Everybody welcome back to another episode of the According
to Wes podcast.
Damn dryer goes off.
You got me Wes Right on cue.

DeLaw (00:14):
Right on cue with the dryer going off.

Wes (00:17):
And always you got a D-Law here.

DeLaw (00:20):
You got D-Law the sniper out here.

Wes (00:26):
Still playing the division.
Lord, A sniper out here Stillplaying the Division 2.

DeLaw (00:28):
Yeah, just getting my eye out, I figured I got to keep
progressing in it.
So I'm like, all right, I'll doone little side, you know,
either a side mission or a mainmission and then I'll go and put
the rest of my time in the 2K.

Wes (00:44):
I mean, you can put your time up between both.
You just gotta know how to doit yeah, but I figured why not
put it.

DeLaw (00:52):
You know, at least I know what I've noticed is if you do
the missions or side missions,you get a lot more xp to help
you level up.
Right on my way to going to dothese missions, I fight anything
and everything that is possibleand collect anything and
everything that is possible,because you get points for that
too.

Wes (01:10):
Right.

DeLaw (01:11):
By the time I get to the mission, I'm about to finish up
this side of the mission beforegoing into playing 2K.
Generally, once I finish onemission I'm almost leveled up to
get you know, to go to the nextlevel really, and that's just
another, maybe side mission orgiving resources to another base

(01:35):
, because I noticed that givesyou.
That gives you a lot of pointstoo.
Like if you go to one of yourlittle bases that you capture
the control points, they giveyou considerably, considerably
good amount of points.
So I've been doing that andfiguring you know, figuring all

(02:03):
that out.
I'm at.
You know, figuring all that out, I'm at.
You know.
I guess last time we recorded Ihad just restarted last week or
something.

Wes (02:11):
No, yeah, something like that, like a week and a half ago
or so.

DeLaw (02:15):
So I went from level one to I'm at level 18.
After completing this sidemission, I did not level up to
level 19, but I am fairly close.

Wes (02:31):
Gotcha.

DeLaw (02:32):
So it all kind of ends up working itself out.

Wes (02:36):
Hell yeah.
So Shit, I played all dayyesterday and a little bit this
morning.
Oh, the Division or 2K.
You know I'm not playing on thedivision 2K, no, but I was
putting my time in between thatStreet Fighter and second eight.

DeLaw (02:54):
So it's tricky.
Well, for the most part I'mjust trying to catch up to you
and my player.
I'm like all right, well, letme catch up to you for division.
What's your number Then?
18.

Wes (03:07):
Yeah, you should stop.
I'm at 21.
You should stop, I should stop.
All right, yeah, I ain't sayingstop right now, but you get
what I mean.

DeLaw (03:18):
If you get to 19,.

Wes (03:19):
Just, you know slow it down a little bit more, cause I know
you you'd be like damn, I gotthe 30.
I don't know whatever you wereand I'll be like 21, we back in
the same situation, yeah allright.

DeLaw (03:30):
So I will slow down once I get to a certain point,
because I mean, obviously I justwant to get to where I was, so
that when, um one, I want to getthat mission, that I was like
shit, I could have got thatmission and finished it and got
whatever that little specialthing was, and then I'll be
content.
Right, you know what I mean?

(03:51):
I think it's one of thosethings.
It's just like I knew that Icould have got the thing if I
had known what I was doing aheadof time.
And now I'm like I'm going tocomplete that shit.
Right, that's where I'm kind ofat right now.
I'm leaving a lot of my controlpoints open Now that I'm over

(04:14):
where the settlement is, becausethat's where we were fighting
to get to at that point.
So I'm back to where the castlesettlement is, which is good.
And, yeah, now I found my first.
Now I have all three of thelittle checkpoints.

(04:34):
Wait a minute, what's going on?

Wes (04:37):
Oh, I completed two missions at one time.

DeLaw (04:39):
Okay, that's weird.
Okay, outside playable area.
Oh, I'm outside the playablearea.

Wes (04:53):
Yeah, that means you're on a mission, that means you're
leaving the mission area.

DeLaw (04:57):
Oh, okay.
Well, that was weird because Ifinished the mission.
I think I was just going thewrong way.
Let's see if it does again.
I think I was just going thewrong way because I'm not
looking at the edge of the map.
Well, yeah, so I have my truesons open.

(05:20):
I have my hyenas one, I have myhyenas one, and now I have
found my first.
I didn't realize that theoutcast control points were all
in, like western DC.
I didn't realize that becauseit's good.
So now it makes sense of howeverything's broken up.

(05:40):
It looks like southern DC isthe true true sons, eastern
slash, northern is all hyena,and then western western dc is
all um outcast.
So, hey, shit works out.
Yeah, so how?

Wes (06:00):
so far, I was uh, sly and kevin.
How was Sly and Kevin?

DeLaw (06:05):
Well, you know Sly and Kevin.
I haven't seen Kevin in a while, so I think he might have been
the one that got stuck on amousetrap that was in our office
.
You know Sly, sly might be dead.
I ain't seen him run acrossthat motherfucker either.

Wes (06:20):
So I think.

DeLaw (06:22):
I think they're.

Wes (06:23):
Both are dead, I think they're both dead, and a more
serious question how is the newjob?
Is what I guess, what I'mtrying to say.

DeLaw (06:35):
Well, I got some disappointing news.
You ready to leave?
I've been ready to leave sinceI got there and I met Sly and
Kevin Jeez.
Oh man, you ready to leave?
I've been ready to leave sinceI got there and I met Sly and
Kevin Jeez.
Oh man, I was like you know,I've been applying to jobs.
And the guy was like yeah, youknow, if you apply vertical,

(06:56):
they won't negotiate with you toget more money.
They're going to tell you howto take a step in.
And I said I said they willgive me something.
I ain't going to move a lateralto get the same money.

Wes (07:05):
It's dumb yeah, that's dumb as shit yeah.

DeLaw (07:08):
I said, that defeats the purpose of moving on.
If you're in a bad situation.
It's like.
It's almost like saying allright, well, if you.
I was like you know what.
So I looked it up.
So it's not what it says, butit's kind of what he said.
But if what it says, but it'skind of what he said, but if
they negotiated, so it's a.

(07:30):
It's one of the things if youmove lateral without a promotion
, going up a grade, it's notthat they can't negotiate, but
they only negotiate minimally.
So like between 6% to 12%, I'mcool with that.
I'm cool with that too, becausesix percent of we bought 60
grand, a little bit more, maybelike 63 give or take.
So if it's like so, let's say I, I end up going back to my old

(07:55):
unit in a different position andI'm like well, I want to
negotiate this because I don'twant to, I'm not going to come
back, have to pay for parkingfirst off, because now I got
compensated for that in mybudget pay for parking, all the
other stuff to come back.
Have to pay for parking firstoff, because now I've got to
compensate for that in my budgetPay for parking, all that other
stuff to come back and justmake what I'm making now, this
new place for that might as well.
Stay there with Sly and Kevin,right?
The rest of them, you know whatI'm saying, right, but right

(08:17):
now they're talking reallynicely as far as they're
thinking about moving mysupervisor up and then move me
over, which would give me agrade increase.
But even with that, I couldtake that and negotiate more,
which in my head, I'm like whynot?

Wes (08:33):
I'll thank you, they'll let you, they'll let you, uh,
negotiate the grade increasethey'll let you negotiate how
much more you get into the steps.

DeLaw (08:46):
So, instead of me moving and just going up to a 16-3, if
I'm like, well, if I'm moving upand I know what the
responsibilities are giving me,I want to negotiate 12% more
money.

Wes (09:03):
I see what you're saying.
That shit's always tricky man,the organization's the only one
to pay people.

DeLaw (09:16):
Well, my biggest thing is I want to try and get.
I need more steps, becausewhere I'm at, what Wes Moore has
done is he's taken away thebeginning steps, so everything
is starting.
So, pretty much my salary nowis the starting salary for
anyone that comes in at my grade, yeah, so with him cutting the

(09:36):
first two steps out andeverything starts at a step
three.
If you were to apply to comeinto my position, since I've
been going step-by-step sinceI've gotten there, my step is
now to beginning getting, uh,beginning of, of, uh, the start
of salary.

Wes (09:53):
They changed the uh, they changed the range, probably
because of cost of living andstuff like that.
So where you're at right now uh, you had to work to get there,
but anybody new coming in waslike, oh no, just a new step,
but the the cap is greater, iswhat you're saying?
Yeah, I got you.
So that sucks, that sucks inthis.
I I wasn't.
I was in a situation like thatwhere I was coming close on

(10:17):
because of the uh, the colas andstuff like that.
I was coming close to the capfor the position I used to have.
I don't know my luck, not evenluck, just the things that's
been going on with me when itcomes to the organization that
I'm at.
It's just like if I sat downand told you all the stuff,

(10:40):
you'd be like this sounds like amovie and I'd be like.
Or a TV show, and I'd be like,yeah, like a movie, and I'd be
like or a tv show, I'd be like,yeah, I feel like that too.
Yeah, I don't even feel like I'mthe main character in this shit
.
I feel like I'm just I'm justlike a supporting cast and
what's going on in that and that, that's with that situation.
When I explained it to people,I explained it into detail to my

(11:01):
wife, but she was just like ahha ha, that's so political, not
political like presidential orwhatever, like office politics
stuff.
And I'm just like people are inoffice politics, people are
using other people for their ownbenefit, but the people that
are being used don't knowthey're being used.

(11:23):
Yeah, not that it affects thatperson negatively, it's just
well, you know, that's what Iwas going to point.

DeLaw (11:35):
Everybody need more money , yeah, so I'm like all right,
well, no matter what happens,I'm going to have to negotiate.
Because I'm like there's no waythat when I get my next step
increase and Westmore says, ohyeah, I'm canceling out the step
freeze.
That means no matter what.
I'm starting with everyone elsewho just got to.

(11:56):
I'm like no, I can't keep, soI'm going to need some money.
So I feel like I'm going toneed some.
You know it's shorted somemoney.

Wes (12:06):
So I feel like I'm I'm going to need some.
I'm going to need some, youknow, to show that I'm valued.
Yeah, go through this shit likethat and I get it.

DeLaw (12:14):
Yeah, we'll see what happens.
I mean, you know how politicsin the office goes.

Wes (12:21):
Hold on Now that I'm thinking about it.
If that's the case, why didn'the just give you a cost of
living?
I did, I got that, but why arepeople coming in, according to
you, then?

DeLaw (12:32):
Because he got rid of the earlier steps.
Yeah, you did say that he gotrid of the earlier steps.
There's nothing I can do withgetting rid of the earlier steps
.
It's like all right, well, Ithink we don't need this stuff
anymore.
We'll just increase it more orwhatever.
Whatever, All right, cool, butwhat about us that just got work

(12:55):
in China and now people comingin?
Well, we make it.

Wes (12:58):
We had to wait a year, just to be like, oh shit we're
getting raises.

DeLaw (13:01):
You know what I mean.

Wes (13:04):
Yeah, tricky, yeah, like, oh shit, we're getting reasons,
like you know what I mean.
Like yeah, tricky, yeah, truly,truly tricky.
But, um, I've shared lately,I've been um, not even lately, I
um, you ever, um.
You ever wonder what, uh, likeat work or wherever whatever

(13:28):
compels you to be a good personor do the right thing.
Like you know, the right thingis the right thing, but some of
the things that you willprobably want to do, like it
ain't against God's law, youever think like yo, why am I
doing this?
Why am I being Mr GoodyTwo-Shoes today?

(13:51):
No, why am I Huh?

DeLaw (13:55):
You don't need my damn job.

Wes (13:57):
Yo.
But being Mr Goody Two-Shoesdon't mean you don't keep your
job.
It might mean people don't likeyou, but it don't mean you'll
keep your job.
I hope so we all need our jobs.
But I was thinking about thatshirt recently because it's like

(14:18):
you know, like you got your uh,your internal thoughts when
you're dealing with, uh,co-workers and like that, or
just like you know you'll be atthe grocery store and stuff, and
it's just like of co-workersand shit like that, or just like
you know you'd be at thegrocery store and stuff.
And it's just like lately, andit's probably because I needed a
couple days off and I did takea couple days off, but it's like
lately I've just been like man,petty stuff has just been
running through my brain soheavily you want to go and be

(14:40):
petty.
I'm not searching for petty.
Here's the thing.
Here's the crazy thing.
I'm not searching for petty.
Here's the thing.
Here's the crazy thing.
I'm not searching for petty.
People aren't being petty to me.
I'm just like.
I don't feel like knowing thisshit.
It's so easier, it's easier tobe.
It's easier to be an asshole.
It takes a lot of energy to belike no problem.

(15:02):
I'll you know, whatever,whatever, whatever, turn up the
cheek will be the bigger person.
So much energy, so much energywhen it's so easy to be like
fuck that, I ain't doing that.
Oh, fuck you.
Who do you think I am?

DeLaw (15:17):
yeah, we is tight.
I mean it is tight, I mean itis tight.

Wes (15:24):
Yeah, yeah, I, um, but I was just thinking about that
shit Like cause, uh, like allthis week I've been in
situations where like I'm likeokay, because 2k came out, right
, I'm like all right, all I wantto do is get the 2k.
And then it's like, oh, momneeds something, one of my
homies needs something, this,this and this.
And I'm like yo, why?

(15:47):
Now I could.
Just, I really just want to saynot fuck y'all, but just like
no, I want to come home.
I had a rough day at work.
I was hitting one of yourjoints.
I didn't want to decompress,but I was excited to play.
2k came out the first day, theonly thing that I could.
I was home.
I didn't do the pre-order,right, I was home.

(16:07):
So I'm like I'm downloading it.
This shit, take it forever.
I'm like cool, I'm stillworking.
You didn't do the pre-order.
Mm-mm.
Walking around being busy,being busy, so busy that I ain't
have enough time to get on myphone to boom, boom, boom, boom,
boom, boom because so manyother important things.

DeLaw (16:24):
Quote unquote are taking precedence.
I've been playing two cases.

Wes (16:28):
Last Wednesday, Fuck you yeah because it was funny, I was
like all right, well, I ain'tgoing to play.
I mean, it came out third.
I mean it officially came outthird.
You only got to play it a dayearly.

DeLaw (16:39):
It officially came Friday , didn't it, fizzy?
Come out Friday.

Wes (16:43):
Thursday I was planning Thursday.

DeLaw (16:48):
Oh well, you guys one day longer than everybody else.

Wes (16:50):
Remember, we was talking and I was just like, well, shit,
I'm teleworked that Thursdayanyway, so it's kind of like, so
I didn't get a chance to try topre-order, to pre-load it and
maybe try to play a couple ofplay something until like 1
o'clock that day, since I wasgonna be home.
Yeah, so me being me being uhtrying to be the best west that

(17:12):
I could be helping people out on, uh, you know, throughout the
week and shit like that, didn'tget a chance to forgot to
download it.
Thursday come.
I'm like all right, boom, itdownloading this shit, I'm
waiting for it to do the copystuff and this, this, you know
all that bullshit that it does.
Right, I'm like all right, boom, I'm in there.
I get a call, I'm at work, Imean, I'm working from home and

(17:36):
shit and I'm like, damn, I kindof got to be Superman in this
bitch because, boom, I have anew title.
I'm kind of responsible forthis shit now.
So now I got to leave my house.

DeLaw (17:48):
Just say fuck that title man.

Wes (17:49):
Nah, I want it to go fucking bad man, not even just
because it was 2K, just becauseit was just kind of like come on
, man.
So I'm like, alright, I guessthis is what an adult is about.
So I go handle that shit, I gohandle.
No, that was Friday.
Anyway, I go handle all thisshit on Thursday, whatever have

(18:12):
you, and Come to find out I haveto work on that situation on
Friday.
So Thursday I'm like alright,bet, well, shit, at least I know
I'm doing that.
Friday I come home.
Some other shit happened.
2k is like on the screen.
I'm on the home screen and shitand still can't play it because

(18:32):
things are just happening.
People need my assistance andthis, this and that.
So I'm like fuck, I just wantto do this and be like fuck
everybody, you gotta pay thecost to be the boss.
Snoop Dogg no, that's finePaying the cost to be the boss.
Like yo, I'm going to get moneyfor that.

(18:57):
But sometimes I guess I came tothis conclusion like yo, either
I have bad time management orthe man above is like yo, I'm
trying to show you that the way,way I took it, it was one of us
.
Like I'm trying to show youthat, um, maybe you just need to
be spending more time withpeople that love and care and
care about you and stuff likethat, instead of getting wrapped

(19:18):
up in all your shit.
And I'm like, yes, but I don'tever get to get wrapped up in
all my shit, so I'm like thatcan't be it.
So I'm just trying to figureout why I keep getting put into
situations where it's just like,no, you ain't going to go do
that fun shit, you're going togo do this, and then you're
going to only have like 2% ofyour time for the fun shit that
you want to do.

(19:38):
I'm like yo, I'm eithermanaging my time badly or
something is conspiring againstme, or maybe I'm saying
something, I'm supposed to belearning a lesson and shit.

DeLaw (19:51):
I don't know.

Wes (19:54):
You don't know, go that way .
You have absolute all the timeyou need to do what you want to
do outside of family and yourfriends and shit like that.

DeLaw (20:02):
Yeah, probably the life, of my living, I do everything I
need to do unless.

Wes (20:12):
I say want, I do everything I need to do.
I'm talking about want to do.
Want is different.
I do everything I need to do.
I go get gas, I go groceryshopping, I go to work, I go buy
.
You know what I mean.
I do everything I need to do.

DeLaw (20:26):
The only thing I mean.
I pretty much do.
But also that came with lettingeverybody know I need this time
, like even if I come home andI'm like you know what I feel
like going to the bar, babe, I'mgoing to the bar, okay, bye.
See you Feedback in an hour.
Yeah, did you finish dinner?

(20:49):
Yep, dinner's already fixed.
I'm just going to the bar.
See you soon.
Did you clean a cat litter?
Yep, did that already.
I'm going to the bar.
Or like playing a video game,I'm like I'm going to go play
some video games.
Well, you're always on thegames.
I said I'm only on there for anhour, hour and a half.
Tops.
You get to sit up in the roomand relax and not have to worry

(21:12):
about nobody telling you what todo or calling your name.
That's what video games does forme it allows me to just kind of
sit there, do nothing andpretend that I'm actually still
as athletic as I used to be.

Wes (21:28):
Yeah, true.

DeLaw (21:30):
Very, very true.
We did talk about 2K, didn't we?
Let me go get my alcohol.
We talked about 2K boom man,that was my drink.

Wes (21:39):
Yeah, man, I hear what you're saying.
I don't know.
I don't know, man, I hear whatyou're saying.
I don't know, I don't know.
Man, I'm starting to feel likemaybe I'm just a little bit
selfish when it comes to like mytime and shit and I hate I
don't know If I'm going to wastelike, if my time is going to be

(22:00):
wasted.
I'd rather me waste my goddamntime and not nobody else.
I'm not saying that people arewasting my time, but I feel like
I got a couple of needy peoplein my life and I'm just like I
want to be petty towards them.
So bad.
And I think the only thing thatdoesn't compel me to be like
petty or be a bad person quoteunquote is because I want what I

(22:24):
put out.
So I don't want, like, if I'mever in time of need and stuff
like that, for somebody to belike you know what this old
begging ass motherfucker likealways want something Like I
don't want that, so I try not to.
You know what I mean.

DeLaw (22:37):
Well, you want the good news or the bad news?

Wes (22:45):
I want both.
What do you mean?

DeLaw (22:47):
Well, the bad news is, it don't matter whether or not
you're sober or not, they stillgonna say the same shit yeah,
yeah, that's right.
The bad news is whether or notyou're sober or not, if they
gonna help you, they gonna helpyou.
So it don't matter.
It don't matter.
It don't matter.
If we're really talking aboutit.

(23:09):
It don't matter, because peoplewho are selfish still will ask
for someone's help at a time ofneed and then be the same ones
to turn around and not give thatreciprocated back.
It don't really matter.
You got somebody who would helpsomebody all the damn time, and
when they need some help,don'tiggas want to help them.
Oh, I ain't got it.
I like, come on, it do notmatter whether you're

(23:34):
self-injured time or not.
If someone won't help you, theywon't help you, and if they
ain't, they ain't.
Now you got some people whoknew they weren't going to help
you, and when you don't helpthem when they need you, I
wouldn't say the reason theydidn't help you is because you
didn't help them, but they hadno intentions of helping you.

Wes (23:50):
Yeah, I feel you on that one.
Let me tell you like, remember,I was telling you like I just
got finished saying, um, talkabout how I had to leave the
house and shit to investigatesome shit, and this is like
after hours type shit.
So I'm there, I'm doing somestuff, mind you, I'm in the

(24:11):
can't.
Really, I think I'm gonna justbleep it out and I gotta
remember where I'm bleeping andall that.
I was in the basement ofbuilding.
Yeah, so I'm in the basement,look up, you know, trying to
figure something out, becauseone of the buildings connected
to it went down and shit likethat.
Okay, and it's after hours, soI don't know when the alarm
gonna come on or this, this andthat.

(24:32):
But I come to find somecleaning people there.
I told myself I'm only gonnaspend 10 minutes there, right,
so you spent an hour there.
No, I didn't spend an hourthere because I wasn't even.
I mean, I was there just beinglike Superman and shit.
So I'm there, I'm in thebasement, I'm trying to figure
some shit out.
I'm like, alright, I see this.
I see that Blah, blah, blah,blah, blah.
My mom calls.

(24:53):
I'm like, alright, I'm going tocall her back, I'm still doing
some shit, this, this, this.
And that Two minutes later shecalled again.
I I'm like yo, what you wantfrom me?
Nah, I was like usually if it'simportant, she'll use a
voicemail.
She ain't leave a voicemail.
So I'm like, all right, well,maybe she was just calling to
see if she can get me again.
She calls me again.
I'm like, hello, yeah, how do Iget the Amazon package out of

(25:18):
the locker?
I was like man, this is theshit I'm talking about.
Don't call.
This is like I'm already doingsomething.
And you called me to see how toget the Amazon package out of a
locker.
I said, yo, mom.
I said I normally just get acode, I type it in and then the
fucking I didn't say fucking andthe door pops out and she was

(25:39):
like well, now I got one whereit says the Bluetooth and locate
.
I said I don't know how to dothat, ma, I did.
But I said I don't know how todo that Because I'm not about to
walk her through something whenI'm already doing something,
she just calling to get what shewants right away.
I'm just like you power.
Called me over an Amazonpackage that you can get at any
time and I'm like I was like yo,mom, can I call you back?

(26:02):
And she was like yeah, that'sfine and all defeated and shit.
And I'm just like that's what Imean, like how my day, how my
day went, how my days gosometimes.
And I'm like yo, what?

DeLaw (26:11):
is wrong with people.
You know why she was defeated?
Because her baby said mom, stopcalling me or I start acting
ignorant out in this mode.

Wes (26:20):
She might as well have heard that.
But here's the thing she hastwo other children.
We're not even children.
She has two.
Yeah, she with her children,but we're not young.
She has two other adultchildren.
Call one of them, please.
Well, you know, it was justlike.
It was like stuff like that.
I'm like yo.
I had no intentions of helpingher, because there is no way

(26:44):
that you getting your books orwhatever you was getting is more
important than me doing this soI can keep my cat, or to look
good, you know what I mean.
As far as like, uh, working andstuff, I'm just like, come on,
maybe she did.
Yeah, listen, of course, anymom is gonna think their time is
more valuable than anythingelse.

(27:05):
I birthed you.
That's how they operatesometimes, especially black moms
.
I'm going to say all moms,because you know I don't think
of the race.
Most moms feel that way.
Like yo, don't disrespect me,you came out of my coochie, I
birthed you, so but that's whatI mean.

(27:27):
Man, I'll be like.
I don't be wanting to be petty,but I don't want to be selfish,
but it's like in, like incertain situations, I'm like yo,
like I don't want to uh, like Iwant the.
I want the good karma, and ifthe good karma doesn't come to
me, let it come to one of myfamily members or loved ones
when, uh, like, if they everneeded it, like, oh, because
your son or your cousin orwhoever was, you know, help that
old lady, somebody going tohelp you when you're in your

(27:48):
time of need, or whatever.
That's how I think sometimes.
But lately I've just been likeI don't care about all that.
I don't care.
People need to leave me alone.
And I'm not saying leave melonely, just like I shouldn't be
the first choice, don't want tobe the first choice for a while

(28:11):
.
Hate to tell you, yeah, I know,I know how to go.
I know how to go, especially ifyou're dependable.
That's how that works.
If you're dependable, you'realways going to be dependent,
like a real job, right, yeah?
Yeah, if you're dependable,you're always gonna be
dependable yeah so, yeah, man,I'm just like like thing.
I'm like that's the only thingthat fucking compels me to to be

(28:33):
on the straight and narrow.
Like I'm minus the the hood rat, shit I like to do, but like
I'm just like yo.
It's better to be that way.
But sometimes you get burnt out.
I know that sounds crazy.
That's why you need to do that.
That's why I said it's soappealing, because sometimes you
just need to get that part off.
Like you know, you at work,holding your tongue being the

(28:56):
best that you can be.
Yes, sir, yes, ma'am, let meget the door for you and stuff
like that.
And you might not even feellike that today, but you know
that's what you gotta do at work.
You gotta do that for eighthours straight.
When it's time to go home,you're throwing on some old
pooch iced tea, you fuckingundoing the sunroof and shit

(29:17):
like that.
You wait till you get off theblock of your job and you put
that shit on 85 with the heavybass and you good, that's me.
That is why there needs to besome type of push, I see.
That's why it needs to be sometype of balance when it comes to

(29:38):
that shit.
You need to have full red shitincorporated into your life.
That's how I've been feelinglately.
Shout out to Pushoh Shiesty,she'll be coming home soon.
Yeah, I was going through itthis week.
I couldn't play 2K and I alsojust wanted to cut the fucking

(30:04):
grass.
I'm like yo.
This fucking grass needs tokick my grass.
This grass needs to be cutBecause I'm like yo.
After a couple days, after acouple you know what I mean the
shit is up to your fucking shin.
And it's just like be out therefucking for two, three hours
straight.
So I was going through it thisweek.
I was kind of like fuckeverybody on the low.

(30:26):
Fuck everybody on the low.

DeLaw (30:29):
That sounds like a.
It sounds like you don't haveweeks like that Sounds like
you're having a rough time,buddy.

Wes (30:42):
Trying to think of a marriage situation that we both
can relate to, because my wifedoes shit to me all the time,
like I show her how to dosomething or I say this is what
you have to do, and she nevercommits that shit to memory and
I'm just the motherfucker thatdoes that particular task around
the house.
And it gets to the point whereI just be like.
One time I told my wife I waslike so what I show you how to
what you're supposed to do inthis situation?

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And I made her step by step ashow much she needed to do.
I'm like I'm not going to keeppopcorn.
That's what it was earliertoday.
She was like man, I want somepopcorn, but I like the way you
make it.
And I was like I showed you howto make it.
We got like the kernels andshit, not the bag popcorn.
I was like I showed you how Iseasoned it and flavor it and

(31:24):
shit.
Like we got all that shit.
Something very, very simple andyou can only think you can
imagine three ingredients, right, the fucking liquid butter,
shit, some salt and maybe someother extra seasonings and shit
and some MSG.
No, but no MSG.

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So it's like stupid shit likethat where it's just like yo,
just because you want popcorn,I'm not getting off the sofa,
the motherfucker reclined back,and shit like that, and you know
we're watching Ridiculousness.
I'm not getting up because youwant popcorn.
I showed you how to make it.
Go make that shit.
And I said if I get up, if Iget up, I was like it's not

(32:06):
going to be nice for you.
It's not going to be nice foryou.

DeLaw (32:12):
It's just so mean to your wife, man.

Wes (32:15):
Yo, I know for a fact that you felt the same way.
You show a wife.
You're just not going to say it.
My wife ain't here.
She went to go take a walk withher sisters.
I'm good I can say this shit tothe top of my lungs right now.
You can't Exactly, I know youdon't know what I'm talking
about, but what I'm saying toyou is that's what I mean.
It's just kind of like yo, I'mnot doing this again.

(32:36):
Popcorn.
Same thing with my, my yo, any,any, any, anybody.
It could be my nephew.
I'm like I showed you how to dothis.
I can't show you you eithergonna burn the out of this
popcorn.
Who's gonna be nasty?
Yeah.

DeLaw (33:02):
I'll pass you.
That's all I can say.

Wes (33:05):
Something you're saying to me is you know you're getting
worked that way and you justdecide to get worked.

DeLaw (33:11):
That's what you're telling me Damn, damn, damn damn
.

Wes (33:14):
You could blink the left eye for no and the right eye for
yes.

DeLaw (33:20):
Sometimes you just got to do things you got to do.
Listen, listen, listen.

Wes (33:27):
There comes a point in time where you do too much and you
just don't do it no more.
How is they going to learn andI'm not saying just like your
wife, anybody how is they goingto learn what if you are gone
tomorrow?
They'll figure it out.
So today is the day to figureit out.
Message.

DeLaw (33:46):
Yeah.

Wes (33:47):
I guess you're right with that one.
I know I'm right.
I'm saying it with my chest,I'm confident as hell.
I know I'm right because youwould do the same thing for your
children, like you want, likethey're like, they're
adolescents, getting into theirteen age years and they're
working and shit.
It's like you're going to fuckup your money a couple times as
an adult, but at some point youshould not be fucking up your

(34:07):
money.
Exactly, you've been there.
I've been there.
I know you had to have beenthere at least once or twice.
I've been there like five timeswhere I fucked up.
I ain't fucking my money sincethe age of 24.

DeLaw (34:20):
At some point you shouldn't be fucking your money.
But I get what you're saying.
Yeah, what you're saying isthat everybody needs to figure
out their shit and stop askingus to do random shit.
That's what I got.

Wes (34:34):
You forgot the caveat If you're able and willing, be able
and willing to handle your shit.
Do not pass it on to somebodyjust because it's easier for you
to do.
Yeah, that part too.
Yeah, that's the main part.
That's the main part I'mtalking about At the office, at
home, and stuff like that.
Okay, I see that.

(34:55):
Now I see why that has been mygripe this whole week.
It ain't it ain't the othershit, it's the able and willing,
and you choose not to do whatyou're supposed to do as an
adult and to pass it on tosomeone that's more dependable.
Not knowing what they have todo, or since they love you and
care about you, they stop whatthey're doing and they putting

(35:16):
and putting you first, eventhough they should be putting
themselves first.
That is the issue I've beenhaving all week outside of the
job, shit, but that's the issueI've been having all week.
Yeah the job, shit just addedon.
Yeah, man, I don't want peopleto think I won't do stuff for my

(35:37):
wife or just take time out ofmy day to make sure she's
straight when it comes to littlestuff like that.
I will.
But enough is enough.
Sometimes, just like they sayoh, I'm not your maid, I'm not
your maid either, I'm not yourMr Fix-It.
You know what I mean.
I am Mr Fix-It, but I ain't MrFix-It.

DeLaw (35:59):
I ain't even getting paid .

Wes (36:03):
I'm not just dropping everything I can each and every
time, just like they shouldn't,hey man.

DeLaw (36:12):
You know what we are.
We are, mr Fix-Its.
We're the ones they don'tlisten to, but want.
They want us to come up withsolutions and then they still
don't follow it.

Wes (36:24):
You know any solutions.
You know any solutions forthings I came up with with my
wife and it was like nothing.
And then come to you to cry andcomplain about when shit ain't
right.
See, the pettiness in me couldbe like well, I told you so, or
where this is the reason whythis, this and that, but it's
just like I just throw my handsup internally mentally in my

(36:46):
head, that interface is justkind of like yeah, I get it, you
know how much, how much of youknow at this point.
I didn't say what you probablyshould do.
I didn't suggest some otherthings, and it's not like you
did those things and it didn'twork.
You just didn't say what youprobably should do.
I didn't suggest some otherthings, and it's not like you
did those things and it didn'twork.
You just didn't do anything.
Anybody can swear one.
So yeah.

(37:07):
Hey, so I was on Reddit, right?
I'm always on Reddit now andthis lady wants to know if she
is the asshole for refusing tocommunicate with her ex-husband
through a language app, since heclaims he can no longer speak

(37:31):
or understand English.
What?

DeLaw (37:37):
How many of you all of a sudden stopped?
Yeah, you got it.
Okay, you know what I what I'masking too many smart questions.

Wes (37:42):
my bad shouldn't ask anything smart, listen this shit
is stupid shit, so she goes.
So I've officially given uptrying to co-parent with my
ex-husband and I need to ask isit really possible for an adult

(38:03):
to forget how to speak orunderstand English after
speaking it their entire life?
Yeah, because it's true.
Or a seizure, hey.
Hey, you're saying smartanswers.
I dare you Some context.
My ex-husband, who spoke perfectEnglish throughout our entire
marriage, just claimed in courtthat he does not speak or

(38:26):
understand English anymore andrequested the use of a court
interpreter.
The judge asked him simplequestions like why are you
unable to pay child support, I'msorry, why are you unable to
support your children?
And my ex just stared at thejudge with a blank expression as
if he didn't understand thequestion.

(38:47):
Only when the interpretertranslated did he respond in
Spanish.
Mind you, I'm not bilingual.
He spoke perfect English to methroughout our entire marriage.
Here's some background to howwe got here.
We are divorced.
My ex quit his job of 14 yearsand moved away from the States

(39:10):
to the Dominican Republic toavoid paying child support for
our children, who are two andfour at the time.
Eight years later, after nocontact or support, he's back
with a new wife and baby in tow,asking the court to clear his
outstanding child supportbalance and stop future child
support payments for our twochildren.

(39:31):
His reason his new wife doesn'twork and he claims he can't
afford to care for her and theirnew child if he has to continue
supporting his first twochildren.
I had to fight the urge to laughin court as he kept his act,
pretending not to understandEnglish, and the judge kept

(39:54):
asking him questions like am Ibeing punked?
How does someone who's beenfluent in English their whole
life suddenly forget?
It seems obvious to me thatthis is a tactic to get leniency
from the court.
He must think that speaking adifferent language somehow
exempts him from fathering hischildren.
It took everything in me not toask how his lawyer managed to

(40:15):
keep a straight face through itall in me not to ask how his
lawyer managed to keep astraight face through it all.
The crazy part is he's probablyspent more on lawyers to come up
there with these ridiculousexcuses than what he really owes
in child support, than what hereally actually owes in child
support.
I even told the court that theyshould just stop trying to get

(40:36):
that.
They should just stop trying toget that.
They should just stop trying toget payments, but the judge
said that the only, that onlythe kids can decline support
when they're of age.
I'm never doing that.
If that was the case, the judgealso added a clause to the
order going forward if he missestwo payments or warrant for his
arrest will be issued.
At this point, he's only madeit worse for himself.

(40:58):
Now I'm left wondering how ourkids are supposed to communicate
with him, since they don't evenspeak Spanish.
Jesus, take the wheel.

DeLaw (41:07):
I might as well for thinking he's faking it and want
no part in this circus as longas he keeps up this straight so

(41:27):
is it unheard of someone notbeing able to speak their native
language anymore, or a languagethat they spoke, if they go
back to their home country andonly get engulfed in that?
It's not unheard of, is ithighly possible?
Probably?

Wes (41:37):
They speak English in the DR as well.
He was probably speakingEnglish over there too.

DeLaw (41:45):
He was probably speaking it over there too.
Yeah, he probably was.
I'm not saying that he wasn't,he probably was, but there's
some foolish shit man, I ain'tgonna lie.

Wes (42:00):
When I read this shit I was just like he probably was.
But there's some foolish shitman, I ain't gonna lie.
When I read this shit I wasjust like Now I've been in court
like jury duty.
Some guy was like you know howyou get picked this shit?
And I was like I can't, I can'tbe one, I can't be a juror
because I got something wrongwith my brain.

(42:21):
And then the judge asked me aquestion.
He waited 30 seconds and saidhuh, what you saying?

DeLaw (42:27):
And I'm just like oh my gosh, you got to like the
creativity, you got to like it.

Wes (42:37):
You got to like the creativity.
Yeah, I ain't going't gonna lie, the creativity is, uh, that is
something we're just like.
Yo, you was married to thislady.
If the judge said yo, has thisman been speaking english to you
in your entire marriage?
Who you think?
He won't believe.
He or she won't believe.

DeLaw (43:00):
Ah, yeah, look, I'm just saying, I'm just trying to give
him the benefit of the doubt.

Wes (43:06):
No, I ain't giving him shit .
I ain't giving him shit.
Take care of your kids.
I mean, even if you, let's justsay it's true.

DeLaw (43:16):
What's wrong with you taking care of your kids?
Now, all I'm saying is, it'snot that he can't speak it, I
just think he just he don't wantto pay child support, which I
think you're right about.
You want to say he right forthat, but I ain't going to say
he wrong for it if he make asubstantial amount of money for

(43:41):
paying child support.

Wes (43:44):
Yo, you were met.
So here's the thing I'm all for.
I'm definitely going to be formen taking care of their
children.
Yeah, I also understand thatthe system is not fair and I and
it sucks for those men.
However, this isn't like oh, Imessed up.
Y'all was married.

DeLaw (44:03):
Right, Y'all was married right.

Wes (44:07):
Yeah, that's different.
You ain't even got to pay childsupport for real, you just got
to take care of your kids.

DeLaw (44:15):
You dipping is what caused her to do the the child
support situation, yeah I mean,in the grand scheme of it,
that's exactly what it was, itwasn't?
It had nothing to do with.
Oh uh, he tried, she tried toget me on it, you trying to duck
it, so you know I like.

Wes (44:34):
pretending not to speak english is a is a weird
situation, yep.

DeLaw (44:44):
It's one of the weirder things I've heard before.

Wes (44:47):
Oh no, I read it full of it , man.
I read it, it's full of you.
Know, there was another one.
I was going to read it afterthis one but I was like nah, but
yeah, man, man, she ain't thatasshole.
Like I'm surprised, like, comeon now.
I just don't understand, likeshe said, I don't understand how

(45:13):
he thinks.
Like yo, I don't speak English.
If that's the case, I'm aboutto go tell a couple of my
homeboys like yo, come beatDisney guy no, why you go there?
Nah, something happened.
You can only speak whatever,whatever and this, this and that
, but you gotta be bilingual inorder for that shit to happen.
I don't know, man.

(45:36):
That's a yeah, and that's whatI mean by like putting good
karma out there.
Nothing's gonna come, nothing'sgonna be right.
I can't even say that becausesome of these dead beats out
here living their best life menand women, so I can't even
really say that shit, yeah, butI say men and women it's a
multitude of dead beaters, whoa.

(46:00):
Michael Paul's moment rightthere.

DeLaw (46:05):
Quite a few of them.
I'm not going to say that thereisn't, but yes, there's quite a
few.

Wes (46:09):
Yeah, that one takes the cake.
I don't speak English, so it'sjust stupid that one takes the
cake.
I don't speak English, so it'sjust stupid leniency.
You think the courts will giveyou leniency like oh, he didn't
know what he was doing when hestuck his penis in her vagina.

(46:30):
He don't speak English.
Oh, he was very sore.
He didn't know what he wasdoing because he didn't speak
English.
Oh, nah, I don't know what hewas doing because he didn't
speak English.
Nah.

DeLaw (46:42):
I don't know, man, maybe that's what he really thought.
No, no, he might have reallythought that.

Wes (46:52):
I don't know.
He had a job for 14 years inthe States.
Remember that, yeah, there's noway.
There's no way you don't becomea customer For 14 years in the
States.
Remember that, yeah, there's noway.
There's no way you don't becomeaccustomed For 14 years.
You don't become accustomed tothe, to the, to our, not to our
but to the society that you'reliving in, and you should know
what marriage looks like.

(47:13):
You should know what potentialchild support looks like.
It's been 14 years.

DeLaw (47:17):
Right, hey look.
I don't think he really caredat that point.
He just all of a sudden said Idon't speak English, no more,
you can't give him child support, because I can't say I
understand.

Wes (47:32):
But he got an interpreter, so it doesn't even matter at
this point.
You will understand now thatyou have to pay child support.
The interpreter is here, youdid have to.

DeLaw (47:44):
That's true, man man, man .

Wes (47:50):
Part of me is like yo, is this lady black?
Because I don't think a blackwoman going for this.

DeLaw (47:57):
She sounds white?
Does she seem malarkey orsnarky?

Wes (48:02):
Nah, let me, uh, let me see if I can find her screen name,
because that'll tell me.
Uh, I don't know what the fuckthat means.

(48:23):
Yeah, she's.
This shit might even be fake.
Might be, I don't know man, she,uh, I couldn't tell you.
I couldn't tell you, I couldn'ttell you.
But, um, shout out to Earl ifshe get that shit together, but

(48:46):
not shout out to him, causesounds like a piece of shit.
Yeah, I mind the ass over forrefusing to wear a skimpy made
outfit to an exclusive party.
My friend hold up.
My friend got invited to.

(49:07):
Yo don't go to the party.
Don't go to the party and notdress accordingly, like if I was
doing a lingerie party andshorties come in there without
lingerie.
You got a robe Right.
You know what type of partythis is.
You ever been to one of thosebefore you hung your jersey up?

DeLaw (49:29):
No no.

Wes (49:36):
More than one person.

DeLaw (49:39):
More than one person.
More than one person.
No, now I've been to pajamaparties, but all you'd be
wanting to see is.

Wes (49:49):
But even with the pajama parties, like maybe wearing
lingerie to them, shits too.
So, man, I went to one of themone time and girl had a onesie
with the butt flap, but she hadto flap down and it was just
like a g-string.
She was walking around likethat.
Yeah, I was telling my wife.
Man, my wife was talking, uh, Iwas um studying, so I was just

(50:13):
like um, so I was studying.
And I was telling her that, uh,this was during that time I was
having a real rough shit atwork and shit like that week,
this week was just rough andshit.
I was like I'm at work, I thinkI'm going to play some house
music to like get me going andshit, I'm at my desk and shit
like that, closing the officedoor, not with like without

(50:33):
headphones and shit, but justkind of get the you know and do
some some admin type shit workor whatever I get up for.
And then I had to get up, so Iwas telling her about this.
This guy he produces music is acomedian blah, blah, blah, blah,
blah Black guy, zach Fox.
I was like he's DJ in this set.
So I played a set and it wasall house music and I was like

(50:56):
this is a good set that he did.
I was like my sister got meinto house music a long time ago
but she liked Baltimore housemusic.
I don't like Baltimore housemusic.
I like the soulful lo-fi housemusic or whatever and a little

(51:17):
bit of New Jersey shit and Iused to like the Miami Bay shit,
but that's not really housemusic so now you gotta get on
that, go-go man.

DeLaw (51:24):
Yeah man, come on now DC that's not house music hey look,
that's music I play in thehouse but uh, what was the story
?

Wes (51:38):
I was trying to say, oh, oh yeah.
So I was just like yo.
I was like I asked her has sheever been to like a little house
party with like house musicplaying?
She was like, nah, I don'tthink so.
I was like man my early 20s.
I was like yo.
If the DJ was doing his thing,it'd be times where I was just
holding up the wall and girlswere just coming Like with was
just coming Like with me, twobeers in my hand and they just
doing their thing and I'm justlike this is the best shit ever,

(52:00):
like sweating like amotherfucker.
I was like the right DJ withthe right music, the right songs
and rotation and stuff likethat.
With house music you woulddefinitely be sweating from 8
o'clock to 1 o'clock, whatevertime you get there.
So I was just telling herstories and shit like yo, since
my fucking bathroom, this, this,and that I was like whole time

(52:21):
just holding up the wall, bigbooty train is just coming over,
like we talking like that, andshit, don't let Back that Ass
come on.
No house music, that's notcoming on.

DeLaw (52:31):
Hey, look Back, that Ass is in the house music.

Wes (52:36):
Yo, that's twerk fest music .
You're a twerk fest music, soyou were at a twerk fest.
Right, you might have alreadybeen married when I think.
I don't even think they dotwerk fest anymore.
So long story short.
Not even long story short,maybe like 2018.
I think 2017 was the first one.
I was already like married andshit, I was with my ex, but I
wasn't married.

DeLaw (52:53):
Yeah, yeah.

Wes (52:54):
So, long story short, it's just like a little music
situation, not concert, but likewhat do you call it?
Festival?
Quote, unquote, and it's justnothing but music to do that to,
and it's just girls doing that.
And if you're lucky to be oneof those guys that they think
you look good yo, you get to dosome.
You know, yeah, yeah, yeah so,but yeah, we was talking about

(53:19):
that shit.
I was just like man lingerieparties, little house parties
and shit where the drugs wasflowing but you didn't know who
on them yet.
Wow, and so they starteddancing and sweating and like
that bitch on the beam, I'm notfucking with her, that drug shit
.
Get crazy.
When you like try and date agirl, I mean, you know, try and

(53:39):
get with a girl, talk to her andshit like that you like, well,
fuck her head up.
Because if she, you know,heavily intoxicated, it's like,
nah, I ain't fucking with that.

DeLaw (53:48):
Yeah, see, I wasn't a real big party goer.

Wes (53:55):
Neither was I, but kickback .
So it was just like yo, likethe homie, like one of the big
homies.
The homie was like yo, mom, outof town, we got the house this,
this and that we're going tocall up about a couple girls,
see if we can bring like threethrough, whatever, whatever,
that type of thing.
Now, party party, I don't partyparty, as Diddy would have said
to you know, Fabulous, in thatone party party I've never party

(54:17):
, party.

DeLaw (54:18):
You ain't been to the take that, take that.

Wes (54:19):
No, I ain't been to that.
No, not at all, not at all.
But I do know a couple ofhomies that's been to shit like
that, like orgies and littlesituations like that, and I'm
just like hey, I just couldn't,I just couldn't.
So, no, I ain't been to thosetypes.
But little joints at the housewhere I know like maybe 50% of

(54:43):
the people or 40% of the peoplehave been in little shit like
that, those are always myfavorites, cause it's kind of
like you and your element aslong as ain't nobody fucking up
about scaring the hoes you knowwhat I mean and just doing extra
, that's a guaranteed good night.
Right, it's a guaranteed goodnight.
Right, it's a guarantee.
And let it be fried chickenthere.
I know that sounds kind of crazy, but yo, when you partying and

(55:04):
got that liquor going, it'snothing.
Fried chicken, perfectlyPopeye's.
When all that shit is in themix, it's some alcohol.
Yo, that is what I miss.
I don't do that often becauseeverybody got kids and they
doing things and professionalsand shit and you know making
money and shit.
So ain't nobody doing shit likethat, no more.

(55:25):
But I do miss that shit.
I do miss that shit, but uh.

DeLaw (55:33):
I don't really do a lot of parties.
Also, I don't do a lot ofclubbing either that's why I did
the house party shit.
I barely like doing that.
I didn't do a lot of clubbingeither.
Neither did I.
That's why I did the houseparty shit.
I really like doing that.
I didn't do clubs the clubs yougot to pay to cover.

Wes (55:50):
None of that shit mattered to me.
It was like when you got in,how everybody was just so.
So, in my opinion, I feel likemost of us kind of just go to
the wrong clubs.
Like we, when we go, like whenwe were younger, we go to a club
, it was hip-hop and r&b andshit like that.
Like yo, they gonna play what'spopular this, this and that,
blah, blah, blah but there is noconstant uh energy, there's no

(56:13):
constant rhythm, there's nowhatever, whatever.
You just waiting for songs orwhatever.
Have you waiting, woman?
I'm waiting for guys to buythem drinks, this, this and that
, right, but I wish at one pointin time I could have partaked
and like going to one of thoseclubs was just like house music
or maybe a little bit of some Ithink down that time was dubstep

(56:33):
, but like a little bit of edmor that trap, edm, shit and that
type of energy.
Yeah, you've never heard that.
This is remember.
Like when little john stoppeddoing what he was doing.
He was doing that for a reason.
I mean not for a reason, he wasdoing that for a while.
It was just like trap music,but it was just like the harp
hitting uh, 808s and shit likethat, but just in a steady
rhythm like one maybe 140 bpm orsome shit like that right, okay

(56:59):
, and the east side boysactually split up, I know he was
doing a whole lot of stuff withlike flm, mmo
that, yes, right.
So what I'm saying is he wentthat route and then he, you know
, started going festivals andshit like that.
That's what I mean.
That type of energy like if youever in a situation where the
energy is just non-stop, you'regoing to have a good time.

(57:20):
You don't have to literally beon alcohol, it's the, I mean, or
any drug, is the energy?
So what I'm saying is, if Icould go back in time, I'll
probably visit those clubs.
Now see why my homies two of myhomies would like to go to
Baltimore to go to those clubsbefore they come up here and I
was like I'm not going toBaltimore, but they would go

(57:41):
there, and it was just one ofthose things.
It was like yo, we're going tomake it out one way or another.
That's literally how they,you're going to party in
Baltimore.

DeLaw (57:48):
I ain't going.
You're going to party inBaltimore because that's what
they like to do.

Wes (57:54):
Right, but the way they was going, they was going off some.
We're going to make it out oneway or another.
So they was going and that'sall I'm going to say.
But you can already catch mydrift.
I'm like, I'm not gettingcaught, like that.
I'm like and these were, we wasall.
These are college students.
It was like yo who carryingthis time.

(58:14):
I'm just like nope, don't evenput me in that situation.
Thank the man above that.
Nobody got caught up, butthat's the type of time it was
on.
It's like yo, we gonna do this,we gonna get some.
Hey, I am reminiscing about thewhole time, but listen, house
music.
I love it.

(58:35):
Shout out to my sister.
I'm about to say her name.
Shout out to her.

DeLaw (58:39):
I guess.
I guess I love it.
Shout out to my sister I'mabout to say her name, shout out
to her yeah, I guess, yes, Iguess.
Yeah, I guess.
I'm telling you I'm pretty sure, mrs.

Wes (58:51):
Smith can do some house music.

DeLaw (58:52):
See, mike, I don't know She'll do if she's been feeling
it as long as the music hittingright.

Wes (58:57):
I'm going to tell you like this Nice little, like something
, that if you already buzzed oryou're already sipping and that
shit going and that music going,you're going to have a good
time.
You can just sit there and sipand just be.
I'll send you, I'll send you alink to a mix that you know you
send her sushi if you want, butI'm going to send that same shit

(59:19):
to my sister because I know alink to a mix.
Then you know, you send her asushi, sir, If you want, but I'm
going to send that same shit tomy sister because I know she
likes it.

DeLaw (59:28):
Yeah, shit, or if you send it to me, or do you have a
title?

Wes (59:33):
No, it's a YouTube.
It was on YouTube.
I don't know that it's achannel I'll send you the
channel where they do it likeevery Sunday.
I think it's called Soulful.

DeLaw (59:44):
Let me just look at that real quick if you had a title
and you shared your titlestation or whatever, then I
could have just went about itthat way.
We use a lot of title what areyou saying?
I'm not understanding whatyou're saying well, in title you

(01:00:05):
can share your stations likethings.

Wes (01:00:06):
Oh, title, title, title.
No, this isn't on time.
It might be on title, but thestage, the youtube channel,
because they do, uh, they dovideo right, but the, the music
is, uh, pumped out the regularway, like so we can enjoy it.
You kind of I'm saying so, it'snot, you're not hearing crazy
audio, you're hearing good audio.
It's called a, yeah, it'scalled black house radio.

(01:00:28):
That's the name of the channel.
But I will copy.
Doesn't like now, but thatparticular set was the one I was
listening to.
Yes, the other day, when I wasstudying, and I was like, oh
shit, okay, this shit is nice,this shit is nice, let me see,
but I'm going to send it to mysister too.

(01:00:50):
Okay, I copied it there, sendit to my sister, I'm going to
send that shit to you.
But, yeah, man, I was done.
That's the vibe man.
You want to clean it up in themorning, saturday morning, and
shit, yeah, oh shit, I ain'ttaking nothing off for dinner,

(01:01:11):
my bad Time for carry-on.
Yo, I ain't talking about wife.
I had a car the other day.
My shit was $29.70.
It was something like that.
Because I sent it to my homie.
I was like, yo, this is why Idid not want to fucking eat
Carver.
My shit was $29.19.

(01:01:34):
So, yeah, come on now.
$60 is just like that's a tankof gas right now.
It's just like that's a tank ofgas right now.
It's like, ah, and I'm noteating McDonald's, so it's just
like that shit out the window.
So I don't feel like cookingnothing but dog, I had a fucking

(01:01:55):
I had a salmon sandwich withsome mayo, olive oil mayo with
some what's that shit calledSome mumbo sauce to mix that
shit in, man God, and I toastedthe fucking bread.
Man, oh, my goodness, that wassome true fat boy shit.
The only thing I was missingwas some french fries.

DeLaw (01:02:12):
Man.
So, oh, I do got a question foryou, what's?

Wes (01:02:15):
up.

DeLaw (01:02:23):
All right, what's up?
All right.
So how do I put this way?
Ah, so you know the same.
You know the same thing comesup all the time when you're in
the bar, right?

Wes (01:02:31):
so wow, woman ain't sucking like they used to yeah, pretty
much, pretty much.

DeLaw (01:02:38):
But no, she.
So they were talking.
So, too, pretty much, prettymuch.
So they were talking.
Mind you, knowing the bartendershe's a little older, she's
loud, she's a firm believer inwomen are better cheaters.
Right, I've already told herthe only reason that you guys
are better cheaters is becauseof us.
It's because we know how toplay our role.

(01:02:59):
We know how to keep our mouthclosed and not get all clingy
and be like well, look, you'regoing to pay half this rent,
bitch, we ain't that.
No, of course you guys have nosort of oh well, I'm going to
fuck about Happy Home.
I don't give a fuck because Iwant mine and I'm short on shit

(01:03:21):
and you fucking me, it's one ofthose things like I'm fucking
you so you owe me low.
No, no, no, that's not how itworks.
Just like you say, if I takeyou out to dinner, it doesn't
mean I'm going to hit Bitch.
If I fuck you, it doesn't meanI'm going to give you money,
usually with that logic.

Wes (01:03:38):
sometimes I was just, I was a car driver and one day I was
just thinking I'm like, damn,they act like they not getting
good dick.
Sometimes I'm just like yo,like what happened to?
Like man, and that's theexchange.
I don't have to give you meat,but they making it seem like
they doing us a benefit ofgiving us that it's like no, but

(01:04:00):
I gave you meat too.
I got to give you meat andmoney.

DeLaw (01:04:05):
Right, so I was telling, so they was over there talking
and I'm like, in my job, no,we've already answered this
question, but now the young folkwere getting involved in it and
so I'm like all right, this isgetting a little out of hand,
because, and so I'm like, allright, this is getting a little
out of hand because not that theyoung folk ain't going to go
through it, but should the olderfolk older folk being someone

(01:04:28):
older than them, and they stillare 16, 17, 18 years old should
we be influencing the cheatingculture?

Wes (01:04:37):
What do you mean influencing?
I will only influence it if I'ma cheater, like I said.
Should you mean influencing, Iwill only influence it if I'm a
cheater.

DeLaw (01:04:42):
Like I said, should we be influencing?
Yeah, clear that up please.

Wes (01:04:47):
Both of us.
What do you mean?

DeLaw (01:04:51):
So, even though the chick was like, well, I don't cheat
anymore, I'm like, okay, butshould we be telling the young
folk it's okay to cheat on theperson Because you know?
That's in essence I thinkthat's a lot of times what we
tell the young folk.
It's okay to, and the way Ialways tell it like the young
folk, it's okay to date around,as long as everybody knows

(01:05:13):
you're dating around and youaren't being, you're not being
serious with anybody datingaround and you aren't being,
you're not being serious withanybody.
So if you fuck, you fuck.
If we do whatever, we dowhatever, but that does not mean
we are together.
So chick was telling her waslike, yeah, you know, I cheat on
my boyfriend all the time andyou know blah, blah.

(01:05:34):
And she gave her a reallyawkward reason of why.
Like, oh well, you know, hejust didn't have time for me.
Like pretty much gave her areally awkward reason of why.
Like, oh well, you know, hejust didn't have time for me.
Like pretty much gave her areason why she would.
But in essence, I'm like ifyou're in a full committed
relationship and you justcomplained about your husband,
your ex-husband, cheating on you, then why do it anyway, but

(01:05:58):
that's neither here nor there.

Wes (01:06:03):
All right, then why do it anyway?
But that's neither here northere all right.
So my whole thing is um, likewith anything, when you, when
you, I'd even given advice,because I try not to give advice
.
I try to like to give points ofview, points of views, because
my advice is going to be,according to me, right.
It always is.
So I mean, I leave shit openended, like you just said.
Like I would say yo, you'llnever want to tell somebody to

(01:06:24):
do something that you know isgoing to be kind of destructive,
or it can be either way.
And sometimes you say, yo, youcould say you can go this way,
you can go this way.
This is what's going to happenif you do this.
This is probably what's goingto happen if you do that.
This is another way that youcan go.
I would never say, yo, it'sokay to cheat.
Never say that.
I would say, like you said inone instance, like yo, it's okay

(01:06:45):
to date around, but when you'recommitted, you're committed.
If you tell that person you'recommitted, you're committed.
So once you say you'recommitted, that's why it hurts
when other people you know stepout and shit, because they are
under the assumption that youguys are committed, I am only
yours this, this and that you'retaking away that choice.
You'll never want to take awaysomeone's choice to to do

(01:07:08):
whatever, and that's why you'realways so true.
So if it was a young lady or ayoung man, I'm like yo just be
honest with yourself and behonest with them.
Once you're honest and you feellike it's going that way, you
know it's up to you to saysomething Simple as that Now,
does that work?
I mean not work.
Does that happen?

(01:07:28):
No, but it does work, becauseI've been in situations where
it's like I had a girl that knewabout another girl.
It just was that because wewere casual and shit it works.

DeLaw (01:07:40):
It does not work with everyone, but it works it
doesn't work with everyone and Idon't expect it to work with
everybody, but at the end of theday, if you in in my head and
I'm in firm belief the onlyreason that people who cheat get
away with it is because whoeverthey're messing with is uh,

(01:08:03):
they're open with them about it.

Wes (01:08:05):
No, it's not cheating if you're getting away with it.
Cheating is if the person isunder the assumption that y'all
are the only two that's going tobe intimate or emotional
together.

DeLaw (01:08:18):
Even though he told one, he didn't tell who he was
actually or who they wereactually intimate with but is it
a serious relationship?
Hey look, I say like this withwomen everything's a serious
relationship, even theircheating relationships are
serious.

Wes (01:08:36):
No, I know I get that that.
We both know that there's noway around that.
But what I'm saying to you is,sometimes people have
revisionist history where it'sjust like I never said we were
together, but you fucking melike we're together.
Yes, that's what I like to getyou run into those situations
where it's just like yo, but nah, we're not together.

(01:08:56):
Though Now it's different if aguy's straight doing that
womanize and shit, like oh, wetogether this, this and that,
and you, you're saying thethings and acting like that.
I don't, we ain't.
It takes.
I mean, it's still up to theother person to be like what are
we like?
Yeah, men don't like those thatquestion, but it's like that

(01:09:19):
conversation, but it's like thatconversation, but it's not like
it's doing anything, yeah, yeah.
So now I would never say yo,that I wouldn't even influence
the.
You mean condone, that's whatyou're trying to say, because we
condone.
I don't condone the.
Uh, personally, I don't have.
I benefited from it.

DeLaw (01:09:35):
Yes, but I don't condone it I think a lot of times with,
especially with, with the oldergeneration they they kind of say
it's, they kind of almost sayit's okay to do it, that's not
it and and like I've heardmarried people be like oh well,
you know, I you know I've beenwith my wife since I was 16.
I got a little side, james, andit's almost like it's okay to
do it if you don't get caught.

(01:09:56):
You've been together longer,they ain't gonna leave.
But you.

Wes (01:09:59):
That's not true either.
Here's the thing.
It's understandable that it canhappen.
It's not okay.
It's normal that it happens.
It's not okay.
I'll be telling one of my homieshe got his whole team.
Yo, this dude got a whole team.
He getting food from everybody,he getting stuff paid for, not

(01:10:20):
that he womanizing, but it'sjust more of like he's in a
relationship with all of themand he and he ain't I'm sorry
he's not in a relationship withall of them.
He is entertaining all of themand they don't all know about
each other, but they know thatthere's another person Right,
because it's casual at thispoint, like he and his.

(01:10:41):
You know they close to 40.
It's all casual, everybodydoing what they gotta do to be
safe, and that's how you gottahandle that shit.
But I say that to say it's gonnaget to a point where he it gets
to a point with him where hedon't even like dealing with
either one of them.
And that's what I'm saying Like, and that's what I'm saying
Like no man.
I mean yes, but to be If a mancould have it his way, he's not

(01:11:10):
going to want to be in arelationship, relationship with
two women, not alone more thantwo women.
So it's kind of one of thosethings where it gets to physical
.
That means that they actuallylike liking them and digging
them and shit like that, becauseif it wasn't, you'll just be in
the friend zone and you'll behearing all the emotional shit

(01:11:31):
which no guy wants to be in,nope.
So it's kind of like when shortywhen you said shorty was like,
uh, you know, she used to cheator whatever I was, she cheated
because ain't't had time.
You ain't like thatmotherfucker to begin with.
Right, because most men that'sdoing what they supposed to do,
don't got time.
A hundred percent of their timefor your ass.
That's just what it is.
If you truly like them, or ifyou felt like you liked them or

(01:11:53):
loved them, I don't think youwould have cheated right away.
You know what I mean.
I don't know, I won't I to sayright away, but you get what I
mean.
Yeah, you would have beenemotionally with someone and
doing all this other stuff this,this and that and it maybe led
to another thing and youremotions tricked your pussy and
it was like you know what, letthem have some.

(01:12:14):
I could see that happening,getting charmed out of your
panties.
I mean, you've done it.
I've done it, so that shit doeshappen, but you gotta, you know,
as a person, you gotta allowfor that to happen.

DeLaw (01:12:28):
I've done it many times.
I'm not gonna lie.

Wes (01:12:31):
Me too.

DeLaw (01:12:32):
But I remember when I told her she was like well, you
know, like it was a weird thing,like was it was a weird.
It was a weird thing Likebecause, like when she, when she
said it, I was like wait aminute.
I feel like we just had thisconversation of cheating and I'm
like you, just you.

(01:12:53):
I remember when you said ohyeah, you know, I don't like
cheaters.
And I'm like you don't likecheaters.
And I'm like you don't likecheaters.

Wes (01:13:04):
She don't like being cheated on which it's different,
like not as different, but I'mlike you don't like cheaters or
you don't like being cheated on.

DeLaw (01:13:14):
You got the icon people.
You know what I'm saying.
All these people are sayingthat they like my game.

Wes (01:13:20):
How's it?

DeLaw (01:13:21):
go my game.
I only had six points and fiveassists, but they said they like
my game.

Wes (01:13:27):
Listen, people get cheated on every day.
D People get cheated on everyday.
It's not the fact that, withtrips, most probably tripping
her up, it's like this.
It's a double standard.
We all know this and it's justbecause the way both parties

(01:13:49):
operate.
Cheating to us from them islike yo, you giving this man
your time, you spending timewith him, shit like that.
You already started cheating,you just ain't suck his dick yet
.
Right.
Well for us.
And women, they think cheatingyou already started cheating,
you just ain't suck his dick yet.
Right.
Well, for us and women, theythink cheating is like yo, you
got your dick sucked and it'slike no, that was a dick suck, I
don't give a fuck about thatperson, right?

(01:14:10):
So yeah, we're not going to getpast that part.
The only way we resolve that ismore or less like we understand
it as a double standard, andthese are the rules for you and
these are the rules for me.
Now, that's how I believe.
That's how marriages kind oflasted whatever, whatever,

(01:14:31):
whatever.
Because you know what they saya man won't be a man, or
whatever.
Oh, that was just some, thatwas just some.
Whatever, whatever, that wasrandom.
Your man won't be a man, orwhatever.
Oh, that was just whatever.
That was random.
Your wife won't be mad at youbecause she ain't going nowhere,
because you're already takingcare of her own Right.
And if it is a one-off thing,how would your wife ever fucking
know, unless you just fucked up?
Unless you just fucked up, yeah, yeah, would you imagine being

(01:14:57):
married, your wife give you allthe dumb shit and then she's
being pleasant with somebodyelse?
That's yo.
I would destroy everything inthis fucking house.
Man, I'm laughing.
I'm laughing about it, but thatshit is painful you gotta do it

(01:15:20):
just because yeah.
On that note.
Don't do it just because.
But no, no, no.
Don't do it just because Dudeis wrong, skipping out on his
wife and shit On hisresponsibilities.
He already divorced, skippingout on his responsibilities and
shit.
Women cheating and men cheatingact the same, and 2K is looking

(01:15:42):
promising.
We'll see you in a month.

DeLaw (01:15:47):
We'll see you in a month when they decide to change the
game.

Wes (01:15:49):
Which they will, because the season won't be over.
Thank everybody for tuning in.
See you next time.