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DeLaw (00:00):
what I want for christmas .
I tell her don't give me shit.
And she's like well, no, I got.
I said you don't gotta give meshit.

Wes (00:06):
I don't know.
I know I need something for thepain and suffering that the
mind be putting me throughthroughout the year.
I'm never I am never gonna sayyou crazy you crazy.

DeLaw (00:19):
All the all the art no, all the arguments.

Wes (00:22):
You knew you won, but you didn't win because you knew it
was gonna escalate somewhereelse, because they won back like
a child.
Hell, no, no, don't ever saythat again, man.
Hey everybody, welcome back toanother episode of the Court in
the West podcast.
As always, we got D-Law here.

DeLaw (00:42):
You got D-Law the brisk iced tea, strawberry melon,
whitbacher drinker today.

Wes (00:50):
Okay, Always going to have the double son-in-law and I was
going to ask if you're votingfor Trump on Tuesday.

DeLaw (00:55):
No, no, no, no, no.
I'm not voting for Trump.
Someone asked me the other dayit was like why do you say the
double son-in-law, aren't youChristian?
I said, well, you know, it wasjust catchy.
You know you gotta have acatchphrase.
You know it's like a wrestler,a wrestler name.
Yeah, you gotta build apersonality and then once it
sticks and you go back to itperiodically, then you can

(01:18):
always change it based on howyou feel in that day day.
It'd be weird if I just startedsaying I was d-law, something
else.
I had to establish theson-in-law you know as the main
character before I startedcharacter building myself into a
new, evolved person yes, indeed, some shit.

Wes (01:36):
Some of my, um, some of my favorite rappers.
I'm gonna say some of it.
Yeah, some of my favoriterappers got wrestling type names
.
Uh, like Brazil that was doingthat run for like a good two,
three summers and stuff.
So yeah, vinny the butcher,conway the machine West side gun
, those all sound like wrestlingwrestling names to me.

DeLaw (01:57):
So hey man, I'm trying, I'm trying to character build
like my boy, cause now that he'shome he's doing all his social
media stuff going live and it'sthe weirdest thing.
It's like it's like watching areal live, like TV show slash
wrestler who, like he comes in,he hits the scene hard and he's
violent, he's aggressive, hedon't give a shit and then it's

(02:20):
like, as time goes, he go bellowout it's like he mellows out
and it's like alright.
It's like it's like, as timegoes, he go bellow out.
It's like he mellows out andit's like all right.
It's like he's like he did aface turn aka in the wrestling
world called going from the badguy to the good guy.
Yeah, and it's like he did thisface turn, but he still got
that personality of fuck aroundand you will find out I ain't

(02:41):
ducking smoke, I'm just notlooking for it, no more.
When I say it's like the biggestcharacter build, I was like yo
and I was talking to him theother day.
I was like yo.
I said you came on thereflashing guns talking about
something.
Yeah, all on Facebook live.
Yeah, he ain't talking shit.
He made all soft ass,motherfucking man, fuck these

(03:03):
bitches.
Blah man, y'all all soft-assmotherfuckers, man, fuck these
bitches.
And I was like hey, look man,look, you got to take care of
your body.
Look, you got to be clean.
You got to.
You know I got moisturized.
You know I got this stuff right.
I got this right.
It's for eczema.
Like right now I'm cooking.
Like yesterday he was doingstuffed peppers.
He was like I got if I was toshow you a clip from his first

(03:24):
time being live to yesterday,you'd be like that is not the
same motherfucker, that's quickListen.

Wes (03:33):
I got.

DeLaw (03:34):
Uncle July.

Wes (03:36):
That ain't quick.
I mean it is quick.
I got Uncle Some of that stuffstill come out.
He's been home for about maybe15 years now and it just it
comes out.
I ain't gonna say I'm nottalking about every once in a
while it comes out, or damn nearevery other interaction slash
sentence.
Not bad stuff, but just thewording and the agenda and the

(04:00):
and the and the movements andthe mannerisms.
You'd be like damn he's still.

DeLaw (04:05):
You know what I mean Mm-hmm, it's bad, it's weird,
because he'll call me onFacebook and we'd be chopping
and I'd be like you know, wegotta go live one time.
You know we gotta go live onetime, we gotta talk about some
shit.
I'm like uh, uh, yeah, I wantto.
But it long as I was tellinghim, he said he had gotten an
offer to come out to Vegas to doa podcast with somebody.

(04:27):
A couple episodes, I was likego do it, man do it.
He's like my anxiety ain't built.
I said look, it's like when meand my boy first sat down and
started recording I was scaredas shit.
But eventually, once you get inthere, it's like you two having
a conversation and then,because your personality kind of
brings everyone in, reallyeverybody be changing their
styles just to fit yourpersonality, because of how your

(04:50):
personality is.

Wes (04:52):
So it'll run smooth, where you'll feel even more
comfortable because of and he'slike I'm gonna think about it,
don't think about it, just do ityou know, see, first tell him
to see how that person talks toother people, because you don't
want to go in there and you'd belike Dismal, because you're not
expecting what you you know,because you don't know what he's

(05:14):
going to expect.

DeLaw (05:15):
I'm expecting the best if he does do it.
But it was more or less like.
You know, you don't have nomoney backing anything you're
doing and if people are lookingat you trying to bring you on,
you ain't got nothing to lose.
I mean, really, it's just morepublicity for you in the long
run, unless that person reallysets you up and try to get you
triggered to do something crazy.

(05:35):
But in the grand scheme of it,I'm assuming you know this
person and they just want tocome on because they want to get
more views too and they likehow your style is.
So I was just kind of like Isaid go for it, man.
Ain't nothing wrong with it,wrong with it at all.
I mean, I know we haven'treally been offering anything.

(05:56):
I think the plaintiff, jane,asked if I wanted to come to the
radio show one time, but thatjust fell through because of
just timing.
But that was more or less whenwe first got started and I was
trying to like, really kind oflike, all right, well, if I can
reach out to certain people,maybe they'll put us on there.
No, maybe we can finagle someget, maybe get out a little bit

(06:17):
more.
You know, yeah, but um, yeah, Istill Terci, you know, because
me and the Planet Jane, we goback to where she was my
bartender, so I know.

Wes (06:29):
Is that the one that I might be mixing up people?
They got the edible, the weedstuff popping.
That's not her.

DeLaw (06:41):
I don't know.
I don't think she does.
I know she does a lot of.
Originally, her YouTube channelused to be like beauty stuff
and just talking about I don'tthink it might have been her,
but I know she's kind ofcatapulted into like being on
radio shows and meetingcelebrities.
So I know she's been doing thisfor years, a whole lot longer

(07:05):
than we have.

Wes (07:06):
She's got her momentum to get in those things.
Every time we get up I get sometype of momentum.
The 9 to 5 is like I'm going todisrupt your shit for a little
bit.
I'm like, come on, man.

DeLaw (07:24):
It can't be no person that's waiting for that episode
from Sex with Lex to come outwith me on it.
Has it come out yet?

Wes (07:32):
I thought it came out Nope.

DeLaw (07:35):
You're lying, it never come out.
When I talked to her last shewas like yeah, you know.

Wes (07:40):
You know what?
I just saw the clip.

DeLaw (07:42):
Yeah, she had the clip where she was, like you ever
done, busing.
I was like, oh lord, that wasthe only clip she gave us and
when I texted her, she's stilldoing her thing.
I think so.
So her co-host was in Atlantaso they had to record around his
schedule, but apparently Ithink he moved back.
So I think they're trying toget everything situated and I

(08:03):
was like you know, at this pointyou might as well just release
the episodes.

Wes (08:10):
Why didn't they do the virtual thing?
I don't know yeah that's themyeah yeah, yeah, I get it.
She probably like it's probablyeasier to do the YouTube thing
from what she knows or whatever.

DeLaw (08:17):
Doing the YouTube.
Yeah, I mean like we coulddefinitely record this and put
it on YouTube and be some blaseblase.

Wes (08:25):
But listen, all I can say is I, we, I tried that.
And then I was like, well, damn, I gotta get fresher.
He's put one of thesemotherfuckers up and I ain't
want to do that.
And then it was like we bothhad the same idea.

(08:46):
Today we put on hoods, hoodies,hey, come on now.

DeLaw (08:48):
I even wore my, you know, my my.
Do you see us now?
Yeah, yeah, yeah, you wouldhave been perfect for this one.
You know, do you see us now?
And shit man.

Wes (08:58):
Listen, I, and it took a while to edit the way I want to
edit.
I ain't got that much time in aday.

DeLaw (09:06):
So the audio shit has been Because you edited based on
the audio that you put out.
So if you cut something, I gotto cut it in the video.
I got to cut it in the video.

Wes (09:14):
And some stuff.
I'll be like you know what?
I need to take all that outbecause I'm implicating myself
with something.
Because you know what's funnyyou know it's funny, we both got
good jobs.

DeLaw (09:25):
I was telling somebody.
I said my only saving grace isthat our face isn't on on camera
, so it's not like, let's say, Iwas talking about my job.
Someone finally saw it and it'slike this nigga said what so
then I don't even know who thatis so that it probably does make

(09:46):
it safer for us.
But if I knew we were going tobe recording and our face was
going to be shown, I'm prettysure the conversation would go a
whole lot different.

Wes (09:53):
I don't want to do that.
I don't want to do that.

DeLaw (09:57):
Apparently, some people don't even get much.
Well, you know what.
They're trying to get reallyinto the podcast social media
game.
We to get really into thepodcast social media game.
We kind of doing this at theleisure, if something hits.

Wes (10:09):
We like cool.
Unfortunately, that's how it'sbeen, because every time I'm
like, all right, I got to gorhythm and stuff.
I'm migrating stuff over toother stuff, other pages and
stuff.
I'm just like, okay, you're asupervisor now, and I'm just
like, well, fuck.
And then I'm like, okay, you'rea supervisor now, and I'm just
like, well, fuck.
And then I'm like on call, oncall, so that shit gets tricky.

DeLaw (10:29):
But yeah, when we was in Texas.
All you see down in Dallas isgo Dallas, dallas Cowboys.
That's man, fuck themmotherfuckers.

Wes (10:41):
I said it to myself Okay, even the football season.

DeLaw (10:48):
It felt good to see the Skins win in Texas.
In Dallas, you know, with thatHail Mary, I was like all right
and they were all like damn.
But you know what's funny?
The Cowboy fans down there andthe Cowboy fans out here are
completely different.
I know.
Here's what I don't like aboutthe Cowboy fans down there and
the Cowboy fans out here arecompletely different.

Wes (11:07):
I know here's what I don't like about the Cowboy fans up
here, and I'm not even aRedskins fan.
You can say what you want it'sthe, it's the.
I feel like the ones up hereare more bandwagon-y.
Those are the ones that theLakers are their favorite team
as well.
If you have noticed, everyDallas Cowboy fan up here, the

(11:28):
Lakers are their favorite team.
I'm like what do you think I'mgoing to actually respect you
right now In this conversation?
You choose winners because theywin, and I get what I just said
.
I understand that Some peopledo choose winners because they
win.
They understand the greatness,but Dallas ain't been great for

(11:48):
a while.
You was doing it because of theSuper Bowls and stuff like that
.
How many they had.
And the Lakers is only greatbecause of LeBron.

DeLaw (11:59):
I mean, if that.

Wes (12:01):
I mean, if that he bought them, what two championships?
One championship One, one Abubble championship, the Disney
World one.
I mean, if that he bought them,what two?

DeLaw (12:05):
championships.
One championship, one, a bubblechampionship, the Disney World
one.

Wes (12:10):
Yeah, the Mickey Mouse one.

DeLaw (12:13):
I put you this, I put you this, but down in Dallas they
were so realistic.
It was like, yeah, we're justnot really good, like we just
need them to run the ball and weit's almost like it's not like
the Ravens fans up here, but itwas like you know, because in my
head Ravens fans are a littlebit delusional too, but at least
they're realistic with theexpectations that they have.

(12:36):
Dallas fans in Dallas were veryrealistic that we're just not
that good and the skins are, youknow the commander's looking
good and you know like we justneed to do better up here.
When was the last time y'allwon anything?
I'm like now I can say I'm aRedskins fan that went to Dallas
, and have you been to Dallas?

(12:56):
No, Well then, guess what?
You ain't a Dallas fan, nigga.

Wes (13:05):
I could be turned around on you in so many ways, man.

DeLaw (13:08):
Maybe, hey, you're a fan of a team you ain't even been to
they city.

Wes (13:14):
I ain't been to Indianapolis and I don't plan to
go.

DeLaw (13:17):
I wouldn't tell you to go .

Wes (13:18):
Yeah, ain't that the birthplace of Ku Klux?
I think so.
No, no, no, no, no, no.
I don't know what it is.
No, it might be.

DeLaw (13:27):
I think it might be.
It was heavy up there.
I think it started, like youknow.
Georgia, I think yeah, but theyare heavy up there.

Wes (13:37):
Well, they were heavy, you don't know what.
Yeah, my shit.
We were talking before beforewe uh recorded about um, what
was I saying shit that's costingso much, or whatever.
I forgot what I was saying.
Um, no, I was like yeah, yeah,I was like man, um, because you
say you're looking for anotherjob, you always looking.

(13:58):
I said you said shit costs toomuch.
And I'm like yeah, I was like Ididn't go to college.
No, I didn't dream of actuallybeing a outstanding adult,
didn't think I would go tocollege, go to college, make
good money for damn near onemonth.
I get sort of good and make agood money for one month, and
now everything is expensiveagain.

(14:18):
I really feel like swinging onpeople because I'm just like yo.
This inflation has to come down.

DeLaw (14:29):
I'm going to tell you now it ain't coming down.

Wes (14:31):
Well, I got to make some more money.
Like we were saying, I got tomake some more money.

DeLaw (14:36):
As much as everybody's like, oh, it's going to come
down.
You know Trump's going to getit to come.

Wes (14:40):
No, no, no, no no.
I don't think that's the case.

DeLaw (14:45):
I no, no, no, no, no.
I don't think that's the case.
I don't think he Based on him.
Well, Kamala Based on the world.
Yeah, and everybody right nowis.

Wes (14:53):
It's just they're getting, they're getting demolished.
I'm like yo if inflation's notgoing to go down, then wages
need to go up.
I need this.
I just want someone to have aplan for how money can be
injected back into the countrywithout fake stimulus shit.

(15:15):
Yeah, and and jobs, because I'mjust like, god damn, if I got
to earn an extra 50, let me earnan extra 50.
Let me gradually get up to theextra 50K or something.
But God damn man, what the fuck.

DeLaw (15:28):
I think I might lose to my mom this week.
Huh, I'm playing my mom infantasy football this week.
Oh, I might lose.
I ain't gonna owe you.
I might my quarterback's on byeweek.
Dj Metcalf is hurt and I gotJames Winston as my starting QB

(15:55):
right now Great, but they'replaying the Chargers, so I might
be all right, might be able toshake some.

Wes (15:58):
Might be able to shake some Shit, man, you're supposed to
do that shit at the job.
But ain't nobody want to put nomoney up?
Yeah, I'm like yo, we all knowwhat we do here.
We all got an idea of how muchwe all make.
Ain't nobody want to put itinto the pot?
Fuck it.
Yeah.
But yeah, man, I I was tellingmy wife, I was like, uh, I was

(16:30):
like yo, did anything come inthe mail about where I can vote
early?

DeLaw (16:34):
yet she was like oh, that's over, I'm like what, yeah
, I gotta go, I gotta go withthese regular motherfuckers you
can fill out a form.
You can fill out a form forthem to send you your early your
come on now a day.

Wes (16:48):
I might as well just go up there man.

DeLaw (16:52):
My wife sent hers in by mail, so I should have did that
shit and I was like man, howcome I didn't do that like
because I did it.
See, here's my thing duringcovid, I did it because they
sent it to everybody.
Right, you had to request it.
This time, I think, yeah, youhad to request it or whatever,
and I just like man, whatever.

(17:13):
But what I've noticed?
What I've noticed is becauseeverybody's absentee ballots or
mailing in the early votinglines are worse than the voting
lines, like.

(17:34):
I remember, my very firstelection was uh, bush and john
kerry, and I went the day of theelection and that line was long
as shit, okay, long as shit.
I don't know what my first onewas.
That was my first one Curry andBush.

(17:55):
I had just started teaching, Ihad just turned 18, right when
the election started.

Wes (18:01):
I ain't gonna lie, my shit might have been Barack.

DeLaw (18:05):
Really, oh yeah, you lie, my shit might have been Barack.
Really, oh yeah, you areyounger, yours might have been
the first Barack.

Wes (18:11):
Well, it should have been.
The Bush was in there for twoterms.
It should have been the secondBush.

DeLaw (18:21):
Because mine was the second Bush.
I was 18 before the second Bushwon.
Oh, you were.
Oh, then mine was the secondBush.
I was 18 before the second Bushwon oh, you were.
Oh, then mine was definitelyBarack, mine was definitely
Barack because I remember I wantto say because it was Bush.
Then I start because rightbefore the Obama election I had

(18:42):
just gotten laid off from thefeds and then I stood in that
line with trying to, you know,go vote for that one, and that
was a pretty long line too.
I want to say the second Obamaone, I early voted and it was
just as bad as waiting in line.

(19:04):
So for the Hillary Clinton one,I went um the day of and when I
say the line wasn't long, theline wasn't bad at all but I
also early voted, I think I wantto say no, I didn't early vote,
no, I did.
I early voted again that yearbut the line wasn't that bad.

(19:27):
I want to say it was for theBiden one, because we had just
moved out here, I voted, I voted.
I had to put my ballot inbecause it was COVID.
So I'm going to say all theelections I've done since we've
been out here, since maybe theObama Trump-ish time and I've

(19:47):
gone the day of, has been prettyeasy just to kind of go in and
out, Especially over here.
I want to say for everyelection I've been to them lines
be crazy, but when I go upthere the day of I walk in, do
my thing, walk out and I'm done.
So I think it might be astrategy to it, or maybe I think

(20:10):
I went.
I'm going to see, I'm going tosee what happens.

Wes (20:15):
All I know is Tuesday's the day, so we'll see all the
fuckery that's about to happen.

DeLaw (20:21):
Because I don't know if I don't know if for the primaries
or just general election, ifpeople actually come out and
vote the day of, because I knowa lot of people early vote.
I know a lot of people sendtheirs in and maybe I just got

(20:42):
lucky that they were primariesof just doing the two-year
elections of Westmore and all ofthem A lot of people.
Maybe people just don't comeout and vote for that.
So I'm going to see whathappens.
I know I'm not going to get upearly and go do it because I
know if people are going to godo it they're going to do it
early in the morning.
So I might wait around 2, 3o'clock.

(21:03):
I figured everybody would begoing in like 7 o'clock when the
polls open and they want to bedone by like lunch time.
So about 3 o'clock might bethat sweet spot to go.
The polls open at 7?
.
I don't know nothing about thisshit, I mean I do but the polls
open.
I want to say the polls open atlike 6 or 7, and they close at

(21:27):
8.
I know that much.
They give out 12, 14 hours topoll.

Wes (21:34):
I might have to join them one of them.

DeLaw (21:37):
I like to hit right after lunch like 2, 3 o'clock that
sweet spot because I can see theschool that I got to go vote at
.
I can see it from my house, soI can always look Lucky you man.

Wes (21:50):
So here's the thing Mine's what's close too.
It's just that I'll be to workat 8.30.
So it's kind of like I just gotto get out there and just walk
and do my thing.
That's not a problem.
You know what I'm about to hatesaying All them fucking I voted
stickers.
I don't give a fuck.
I mean, I give a fuck, but Idon't give a fuck that you

(22:12):
posted that shit.

DeLaw (22:12):
I don't even shit if they voted, because I don't allow
them to vote for Trump.

Wes (22:15):
That's not what I was about to say To me that's the
equivalent of people postingtheir dinner.
I hate that shit.
Only because I'm like yo.
You ate this ain't even thatfancy, it's not what you think
it is.
Or when women post their littleraggedy ass dinner that they
made too Paper plate fuckingchicken, look dry.

(22:39):
Macaroni, that's the crabmacaroni and cheese, not like
the macaroni you put in the ovenyeah, not the one that you yeah
when you hit a noise yeah, youhear the bougie.
Noises like nah, they ain't makethat macaroni, it's just just
macaroni.
I hate that.

(23:00):
That is like a pet peeve ofmine the eye bolt stickers, the
food pictures and, in a sense,in a sense, in a way, kids'
first day of school picture.

DeLaw (23:17):
See, I hate when people say you voted Like so, my wife
was like, so who you voting for?
Why does it matter who I'mvoting for?

Wes (23:26):
She need to know she's going to stay married to you, Yo
who.

DeLaw (23:30):
I vote for.

Wes (23:32):
Who.

DeLaw (23:32):
I vote for Our vows.

Wes (23:34):
said till death, do us part she's trying to see if the
death is about to happen.
So y'all can part.
That's what she did.

DeLaw (23:44):
I told her.
I told her.
I said I'm going to put me andyou on the ballot and we're
going to run.
I wrote.

Wes (23:51):
who did I write in for?
I wrote somebody in lastelection not last election, but
it was for like a countyexecutive or some shit like that
and I wrote somebody's name man.

DeLaw (24:06):
Random name.
Hey, look, look when it saysyou gotta pick up the five and I
only see two names DeLarce yeah, alright, I'm technically.
You know the funny part is,once I turned 35 I was
technically eligible to run forany position in the country you
don't want that man.

Wes (24:27):
Hey look, if they said they gonna find some old frat
pictures, you'd be like yo.
Who the fuck took this picture?
And you holding up two beersIrish red and shit.
You ever say something to yourwife where it was like yo dope,
you went overboard with thenastiness and her mouth just
opened like yo.
What the fuck did you just sayto me?

DeLaw (24:49):
I don't know, have I ever gone overboard?

Wes (24:52):
She said yeah, yeah, I've done that shit too.

DeLaw (24:56):
Alright, that's fine.

Wes (24:59):
Yeah, man, I've done that too.
Man, you're just looking at melike what I'm like, nah man, nah
man.
You're just looking at me likewhat I'm like, nah man, nah man.
But yo Halloween over with.
So Christmas is right aroundthe corner, fuck Thanksgiving.
What do you think your wife isgetting you for Christmas?

DeLaw (25:22):
We'll see.
I don't know, with the wayeverything's been going, I don't
know.
We, we gotta survive till then.
That's the biggest thing.
Oh my, we gotta survive tillthen.
Yeah, I, I guess going tomarriage counseling has helped
us somewhat.

Wes (25:40):
So it should help a lot, man it's.
It's helping somewhat get y'allviewpoints across, because
y'all seem to be missing eachother with that that's, that's
therapy.

DeLaw (25:53):
Counseling is a little different oh so so therapy is
where you vent your.
You vent your stuff and theytell you all that stuff.
Counseling Counseling is givingyou your guidebook of how to
navigate your marriage.
It's a tad bit different.
It's still the same thing, butit's not when people go to

(26:19):
therapy.
It's to let out, let this out,let this out, blah whatever.
What's really bothering youabout your spouse.
If you want to be with yourspouse, that's therapy.
But they don't necessarily giveyou.
They give you a thing to trythat could work, but they don't
give you the foundation you needto make it work with counseling

(26:43):
, no matter how you look at it,counseling gives you your base
and foundation of where you needto be.
So let's say I want to go totherapy for drinking.
They're going to ask me why amI drinking?
Why am I doing?
They're going to ask me allthese questions, trying to
underline why I'm doing it, butit doesn't give me a reason to

(27:03):
stop.
It's just identifying an issue.
Right With counseling.
You go in there and say, well,what can we do to get you to
stop?
So this is here's some thingswe could use.
They're going to give you asolution while still allowing
you to figure out why are youdrinking?
So it's, they're the same butdifferent.
I got you.

(27:26):
So when we, when we decided togo to Mary's counseling, she
wanted to go to therapy, causeshe you know, she wanted to air
my ass out, all the things I'm,oh gosh man, I don't think it
would work, cause one person'sperspective and then the other
person's perspective now is like, well, that's not true, that's

(27:47):
not how I see it.
Well, no, that's not how yousee it, because you're telling
it from your perspective, you'renot telling it from my
perspective.
So I only can tell you from myperspective, like the, I think
we were talking about the wholething with the bathroom.
She's like well, you alwayscome running into the bathroom
and taking it from.
I'm like, well, I got to bework on time.

(28:08):
You have a flexible scheduleand you leave early every time
you go to work.
So, or, that doesn't change thefact that you come and just
take the bathroom.
I said so.
So in my head, I'm like well,I've only been getting in the
bathroom before her since Istarted at my new position, and
that was in July.
Yeah, okay, in July, I startedgetting in the bathroom at six,

(28:33):
45.
Before that, I got in thebathroom at seven, 15, seven, 30
.
Okay, you're complaining aboutnot getting to work on time and,
like you, never get in thebathroom first.
And bazi bazi, what about whenI was getting?

Wes (28:49):
hold on, hold on.
Y'all problems be crazy.
So why can't?
Why can't one of you guys justget in there before that?

DeLaw (29:01):
you normally get in there for that was a thing when I
worked for MDH or DHS, for thatyou normally get in there for.
Well, that was a thing when Iworked for MDH or DHS.
She would be done her exerciseat 6.30.
It will go upstairs to startgetting ready to go to work,
getting a shower.
Anything else I had that was inmy work at 6.30.
I went walking, walking toabout 7.15, 7.20 at the latest

(29:27):
I'll come in.
She's been done since 6.30.
This is after she washed dishes, made her lunch, exercised.
She's up since 6.30.
She still ain't gotten in theshower in 7.15.
What you been doing for 45minutes, what you been doing for
45 minutes.
So for 45 minutes, what haveyou been doing for 45 minutes?
So now I got to be working at 8o'clock.

(29:50):
I got to be working early.
I get done my workout at.
Actually we work on maybe goingwalking together.
So at 6.45, when we get back inthe house I immediately brush
my teeth.
Get in the shower, boom, boom,boom.
I'm done by 7.10.
All of 30 minutes, that'sincluding my teeth.
Get in the shower, boom, boom,boom.
I'm done by 710.
All of 30 minutes, that'sincluding my teeth getting

(30:12):
washed.
Boom, I'm done.
You're like well, I got to beworking at 8 o'clock too, okay,
but even when you get in therebefore me, you still leave at
830.
Okay, I mean, I'm just sayingfrom my perspective, like I said

(30:34):
, from your perspective, yeah,maybe I do come in and I just
jack the bathroom from you, butin my perspective I don't do
that.
If you're sitting there, notusing the bathroom, what am I
waiting for you for?
If you're currently in thereand there's been times where
she's been currently in thereand she'll be in there I
remember one time she was inthere until 745.
I had gotten in the house 715.

(30:56):
Come upstairs.
I hear her turn the water on.
You just get in.
Yeah, well, I had to do this,this and this.
Hey, you've been upstairs since620.
What did you do this last hourOn your phone Picking out
clothes, like, come on, I'm like.

(31:18):
And I told her.
I remember I told her.
I said you can't keep sayingI'm always on my phone.
When you're always on yourphone, you're pretty much saying
I'm always on my phone becauseyou're always on my phone.
If I'm on my phone, I'm playinggames on my phone.
It's your life.
It's your life.

Wes (31:34):
You're both wasting time.
That's the nature of it.

DeLaw (31:37):
I don't waste time in the morning because I know I don't
have time to waste.
I've been in positions wherethere's no such thing as coming
in late.
I'm late to my jobs Like I wasin the stock market almost 12
years.
I had to be there by 7 am onthe dot, no later, only earlier.
When I worked for Emergency Opsthey gave me five-minute grace

(32:02):
period.
I had to be there at 8.30.
8.35 was the latest I couldshow on my floor and that was
when I went to work after her,so she had the bathroom before
me.
Now I got to be at work at 8o'clock because now I'm
inventory, so I got to be thereon time.

Wes (32:16):
But what it sounds like what you're saying to me is
she's not willing to change her.

DeLaw (32:22):
She don't utilize her time properly.
She got to be on social media.
She got to look at her memes.
She got to be on social media.
She got to look at her memes.
She got to do this In themorning time.
The most I look at my phone isto turn my damn alarm off.
When I finally look at my phoneto do anything play games,
social media I'm sitting at mydesk at 8 o'clock in the morning

(32:45):
.
I think when it comes to movingwith a purpose in the morning,
she doesn't do everything with apurpose.
If I get up at 6.15, 6.45, 5.15, 5.45, and I know I have a time
crunch everything I do is witha purpose.
Get up, I work, I work out, Ido my walk.

(33:08):
I go straight upstairs, wash myhands, brush my teeth, wash
myself, put my lotion on, put myclothes on, walk out the door.
At no point do you see me on myphone sitting there, yo, mine
be the same way.

Wes (33:26):
But I do be on mine, but I'm on mine because I got the
time to spare for five minutesand then I'm going to hop in the
car.
So I get that, yeah.

DeLaw (33:34):
I don't have time to spare.
I got in and I try to beconscious of, and by the time
I'm in the shower nowadays 6.45,I'm out by 7.10.
That's brushing my teeth,everything else done with the
bathroom, that's 30 minutes tops, 30 minutes tops, and most of

(33:57):
that time is waiting for thewater to warm up.
So you know what I'm saying.
It ain't necessarily like oh,I'm up there doing something
crazy, so she might get you awatch for Christmas.

Wes (34:11):
is what you sign.

DeLaw (34:13):
I already got a watch.
What you need to give me is anew job that I could tell you
Can't give you that.
I'm just saying just from myperspective.
I told her just from myperspective.
You're like, you're always this.
I'm like saying just from myperspective yeah, yeah, yeah, I
told her just from myperspective.
You're like, oh, you're alwaysthis.
You're always I'm like well, ifyou're on your phone, sitting

(34:35):
on a bed naked and all you didwas brush your teeth and you've
been upstairs for 45 minutes,what the hell were you doing?

Wes (34:44):
Yeah, that would piss, me off.

DeLaw (34:45):
If I come in the house and I'm fully dressed and I'm
about all right, I'm taking offmy stuff and start.
Oh, you're about to take thebathroom.
You've been up here 45 minutes.
The fuck are you doing?
Get in the shower.
Oh well, here you go.
Go ahead and take it, okay,because you ain't going to lose
your job for being late.

Wes (35:04):
I will.

DeLaw (35:05):
So, yeah, no, I have to make a.
If she works somewhere where itwas like that, we would really
have to work it out.
Look, you have to be out of thebathroom at this time Period.
No questions asked.
Or maybe you should wake upearly.
We got to be at work at thesame time and you still go to
work 30 minutes to an hour afteran hour late and still leave on

(35:29):
time.
It's your life, come on.

Wes (35:32):
You think it'll get?
Do you think how would I phrasethis?
Do you think for Christmasyou'll get the equivalent of
getting a smoothie, like thisone guy got for his birthday?

DeLaw (35:57):
from his girlfriend.
My wife asks me what I want forChristmas.
I tell her don't give me shitand she's like well, no, I said
you don't gotta give me shit.
Nah, I need something for thepain and suffering that my mom
be putting me through throughoutthe year and she's like well,
no, I got.

Wes (36:09):
I said you don't gotta give me shit, nah, nah, I need
something for the pain andsuffering that the mom be
putting me through throughoutthe year.
I am never gonna say you crazy,you crazy.

DeLaw (36:19):
All the no all the arguments.

Wes (36:22):
You knew you won.
But you didn't win because youknew it was gonna escalate
somewhere else, because theywanted to act like a child.
Hell, no, don't ever say thatagain, man.
But you didn't win because youknew it was going to escalate
somewhere else, because theywanted to act like a child.
Hell, no, no, don't ever saythat again, man.

DeLaw (36:35):
This is what I tell her.
I tell her she's like well, howcome you don't want to?
I said, because if there'ssomething that I want to get,
I'm going to go get it.
Yeah, I get that.
And so and I told her, I saidthe last time I, I actually
legitimately asked you forsomething, you got the wrong
thing.
So I said, you know, becauseshe asked me for for one
Christmas, she asked me for ablanket for her for Christmas.

(36:57):
So I looked at the blanket,made sure it was full size, that
it covered up a human body okay, that it covered up a human
body.
Got it because I knew if itcame back and it didn't do that
she'd be real pissed off.
Human body Okay, that itcovered up a human body.
Got it because I knew if itcame back and it didn't do that
she'd be real pissed off.
I said well, babe, I want toplay with my name on it, so that

(37:18):
way I won't keep.
Is your name wrong?
No, it was too fucking small,it's too.
Look this.

Wes (37:26):
Look, I thought that's the blanket.
That's the blanket, that's theblanket.

DeLaw (37:31):
That's a towel, that's a towel and she was like, oh, I
didn't know what the size of Iwas.
Like, what the hell am I goingto do?
She's like how come you don'tuse your blanket?
What the hell is it going tocome with it's a towel this is
like literally something yougive to your mom when she says
her legs are cold.

Wes (37:54):
That's the size of the blanket you get right after you
start beating the joint.
You finish your shit and it'scold and I was a little bit.
You need to run to the bathroom, so you just tie the joint
around your waist and walk tothe bathroom.
That's a towel.

DeLaw (38:09):
So and then she's like well, you know what I said?
Well, and I told her before Ieven asked her for that blanket.

Wes (38:15):
I said Is it the right size ?

DeLaw (38:18):
No, no, I said, the reason I don't ask anybody for
anything is because they alwayseither mess it up or they don't
get it, or it's some random shit.
Listen, I think that's thestory to most men's life.

Wes (38:35):
That's the story to my life too.
It's just more or less like Idon't go into it with any
expectations.
I say, yo, get me whatever youthink I would like.
Now there's been times that Ihave been surprised, but I don't
never go into it saying, yo,this is what you should get.
No, that's not true too,because if I say yo, go get me
2K, whatever she know which oneto get, sometimes she'd be like,

(38:56):
all right, you said which oneand you know be at the store or
whatever.
Have you or this, this and that, but no, you will always get
disappointed.
As a man, you always getdisappointed.

DeLaw (39:07):
I was just like I said you gotta be kidding me right
now.
There's no way in hell that Iwould have came in and said
here's your blanket and you lookat that.
It would have been a wholething like wow, you couldn't
even get this shit right.

Wes (39:16):
It would have been a whole argument it would have been like
you just don't love me, becauseif you love me you would make
sure, but we can't pull that.
This has been like well, youknow my, you would make sure,
but we can't pull that.

DeLaw (39:29):
This has been like, because she's like well, you
know my son, he didn't, he madeit his work, Okay.

Wes (39:37):
Yeah, I'm not him.

DeLaw (39:39):
I'm like you wouldn't have made this work.
You'd have felt some type ofway about it, but you might have
found a use for it because youmight be like well, my legs
might be the only thing that'scold, so let me put it over my
legs.
It might work for you.
But no, I asked for what Iasked for.
You got it wrong, so now yougot to deal with what I got to
deal with when I get shit wrong.

Wes (40:01):
I don't want to deal with that.
Nope, listen to this story.
This guy got a smoothie on hisbirthday.
Listen to the story.
This guy got a smoothie on hisbirthday.
So is that cool for sex?
I wish it was for his sake.
He's a 42 year old male.
He was simply taken out for asmoothie by his 35 year old

(40:24):
banker girlfriend for hisbirthday well, she don't make a
lot of money anyway a banker abank teller A banker.
A bank teller or a bankerBanker I didn't say teller.

DeLaw (40:36):
Okay, If she's a banker she makes about 80.

Wes (40:41):
And I think this might be in the UK.
No, it's not in the UK.
A part of me thinks it'sactually here, but listen to the
story no gifts, so not in theUK.
A part of me thinks it'sactually here, but listen to the
story no gifts, so we haveseparate residences.
She makes considerably moremoney, plus extra financial help

(41:02):
for taking care of her niece.
This Invisalign is fucking withmy reading.
Right now.
It's a visit line.
It's fucking with my uh readingright now.
My family took us both out todinner the night of sid birthday
, which was a complete disasterof a restaurant experience, so
we then went out again forbrunch the next day.
I paid for her.
She expresses loving to receivegifts.

(41:25):
I give her gifts all the time,including holidays and her
birthday, at which times I Letme just move this shit right
here, so I ain't looking upreading At which times I really
made a big effort to make herfeel happy and special, but she
can expect a little thoughtfulgift nearly every time I visit

(41:47):
For her birthday.
At her request, I made anelaborate meal and cake from
scratch, plus provided alcoholicbeverages.
I am an experienced cook andmake fine dining level meals, as
I have worked at some of thenice, as I have worked at some
very nice restaurants.
Today, I feel I was feelingbothered by the imbalance and

(42:11):
told her that if I were to haveher, if I were to have joined
the Tropical Smoothie Cafe Club,I've gotten two smoothies from
there for my birthday.
And she just happily agreedwhat?
Hold on, let me read that shitagain.
I don't even understand thatToday I was feeling bothered,
bothered by the imbalance, andtold her that if I were to have

(42:33):
joined the tropical smoothiecafe club, I've gotten two
smoothies from there for mybirthday.
Oh, I see what you're saying.
I guess that's some type ofsituation that they do.
Looking back at this, lookingback this this has been the pace
of this has been the pace forproviding for the meals
throughout our time together.
I make her and her niece adinner three or more times a

(42:55):
week and provide 90% of thebeverages, mainly wines, mixed
alcohol beverages, juices andsodas.
Every other week, she buys us aburger and fries.
This has been an ongoingfrustration for me.
I've been I've been expressiveabout it, often resulting in her
providing an extra takeout meal.
I don't want no extra takeout.

(43:16):
Lately I'm providing more thanthose takeout meals, as I, as I
see how much she enjoys that,but the imbalance remains five
to one.
Honestly, I'm considering thisas being largely the energetic
exchange.
What is he saying?
Honestly, I'm considering thisas being largely the energetic

(43:38):
exchange rate and thinking aboutending things.
She's very verballyaffectionate and talks about her
future a lot.
She tells me that I'm the bestboyfriend she's ever had, of
course, but still I still feelshorted by the amount of energy
she puts in.
Is she cheating on him?

DeLaw (43:57):
Huh Is she cheating on him.

Wes (43:58):
I don't know Versus the amount of marital energy I'm
putting in.
Second, she's from the innercity, which she's used to people
close to her taking advantageof her.
I grew up in a beautiful quaintuniversity town where most
people I know still keep theirdoors unlocked.

DeLaw (44:17):
I wanted this nigga to know that nobody cared about his
whole.

Wes (44:23):
The fact that he said Tropical Smoothie Cafe.
I know we got a bunch of themin the area.
That doesn't make any sense butum, does that sound on point
for uh situations relationships?
The guy does most of the uh,most of the buying and spending

(44:45):
shit I remember one chick for mybirthday.

DeLaw (44:48):
She said she ain't had no money, but she wanted to go to
Chili's.
I said so wait, am I paying forit?
Well, yeah, because you got themoney.
I said so what am I getting?
I mean, we can have sexafterwards.
So wait, I'm taking you out tofuck you.

Wes (45:02):
It's a regular day.

DeLaw (45:03):
It's a regular.
That's a regular fucking day.

Wes (45:12):
Right, regular fucking day right, come on right.

DeLaw (45:14):
So do you?
You think he should?
Uh, you think he's okay for onemore?
Uh, yeah, you took me to afucking smoothie.
Like, what the hell am I gonnado with this?
Like, was I like licking thesmoothie off of her?
Did she like slurp it up withher pussy or something?

Wes (45:28):
like yo.
Sometimes I think that, uh,when it comes to stuff like that
, I think women have such a lowbar for men that they feel like
once again, all they have to dois not even the bare minimum,
just some shit that we wouldn'teven want for ourselves.
And it's just kind of like andyou think that's whatever,
that's supposed to be your grandjester, but when it comes to us

(45:49):
, we, we have to over, exceedand this, this and that, and I
have to be romantic.
And it gets to the point whereit's like do you like the
gesture more than the man?
Because a lot of women like thegesture more than the man Like,
oh he, this was done for me,not like he did this for me.

DeLaw (46:10):
I don't know.
I think it's a you kind of getwhat I'm saying, I get what
you're saying, but I think it'smore of Think about it from this
aspect.
When you're growing up, mom anddad, what do you get for dad on
Father's Day?
Tie socks, random, you know,regular random stuff, random

(46:31):
stuff, right, like not nothingthat he might really want, but
because he's dead, he's expectedto accept it, because he's
supposed to be able to gowithout and be able to sacrifice
for his family, blah, blah.
Women are natural creatures ofwanting gifts.

(46:52):
So, you know, when it comes toyou know, and counseling, the
guy was like do you guys knowwhat each other's love language
are?
Right?
So, obviously, guys, first oneis sex.
So where do you think women goto all the time for gifts?
Sex, well, you know, it'sfather's day, I'll fuck him.
Oh, it's father's day, hisbirthday, christmas I'll suck

(47:14):
his dick.
You know I'm saying they, theygo with that, not understand
that some guys are like well,the reason I don't ask for
anything is because you can'tprovide anything else for me,
because the only thing you everprovide for me is is sex.
And then when I ask you forsomething else, it's half done,
half ass.

(47:35):
I gotta accept it as it is andnot say shit about it.
So the only thing you're goingto go full out for because you
get equal enjoyment of it is sexthat's not true.

Wes (47:45):
They don't go.
Most women don't go, fall out,or they give you the same thing
that they would on Sunday.

DeLaw (47:54):
Compared to the gift that you'll get Nine times out of
ten.
You ain't going to bedisappointed with sex, but let's
say you wanted a bottle of this.

Wes (48:04):
I almost I guarantee you there are some men that have
been disappointed with sex onValentine's Day on.
Valentine's Day.
I do too on Valentine's Day, onChristmas or birthdays and on
anniversaries.

DeLaw (48:17):
I know those guys what I'm saying is in women's head
and how guys are built.
Women aren't built to give,aren't built to give, aren't
built to do what we do.
We're built differently thanthem and that's why we give up

(48:41):
more to be with them than theydo us.
You know what I'm saying.

Wes (48:46):
Nah, let them tell it, they give up their whole soul please
you ain't getting nothing forChristmas.
You ain't getting nothing forChristmas.
You not getting shit for.

DeLaw (48:57):
Christmas.
You know, look, I look at it aswell and in all honesty, I do
love my wife.
I know me and her.
We've gone through our ups anddowns but a lot of times we've
come to terms that that's whatmarriage is You're going to for
rich or for poor?
You might be going through thatthree or four times.
Good and bad, sickness andhealth you're going to go

(49:18):
through that Damn near all thetime.
So getting a divorce makes nosense just because you go
through it once Like if marriagewas a very easy thing.
Why?
Why?
Why everybody ain't married?

Wes (49:31):
you know I mean no, I think the thing is they yeah, that's
yeah, yeah, facts um, I think alot of people go into it like
the moment they are happy, theywant to stay unhappy.
So it's more like a quick fix,like instant gratification.
So it's like I'm not happyright now, so everything must be
in shambles, rather than justlike why aren't you happy, or

(49:53):
could you actually be happy?
Uh, you know what I mean.
Like what?
What are the other logicalsituations?

DeLaw (50:01):
Women's, women's idea or happiness is so fucked up it's
crazy.

Wes (50:07):
What is your idea of the idea?

DeLaw (50:10):
My idea of them being happy is that everything is this
perfect.
Your husband comes home, he'slike hi, honey, how are you?
Don't worry, I don't neednothing else but you to occupy
my time.
Do you need me to rub your feetand start this heart bath for
you?
Don't worry, I have dinner foryou and I went ahead and ruffled

(50:31):
up something.
And don't worry, I will fuckyou and you ain't got to do jack
shit and go to sleep and behappy.
That's how I think they thinkthis shit's supposed to be.

Wes (50:41):
Mine is a little bit more.
That's just the short version Ican go.
Mine is even shorter than yours.
That's just the short version Ican go on.
Mine's even shorter than yours.
They want to be, they want youto be their personal genie,
where you just make shit happenand you are the source of their

(51:02):
happiness.
And they want to be entertained.
And that's why, when I betalking to my homies, I'm like'm
like yo, it just sounds likefrom, because they out there I
ain't out there, you know,jersey in the rafters and shit.
I'm like it just sounds likefrom what you're saying.
The women that you're dealingwith they more impressed with
the, the idea of you doing stuff, rather than the nigga that's

(51:26):
doing the stuff.
You know what I mean.
It's like yo, I'm the I'm, I'mthe reason this is happening,
not like oh, you got to havethis done for you and he was the
source of it.
So it's kind of like he's, he'srunning into a woman that off
and on, flip-flopping in betweenthat, and then, when he checked
them, it's more or less likethey don't know what's going on.
Or you this, this and this, andthen they my one particular

(51:49):
friend call them two days laterlike, so you just gonna say
forget about me.
And it's like yo, stop.
And I also said stop dickingthem down like that too, because
that's making them a little bitweird too.
Because it's kind of like yo,like he has a girl that comes
into a came in some situationlike this is how things gonna be
.
Like she was the nigga, hetreated her like he was the
nigga, and then she don't knowhow to act.

(52:10):
It's just kind of like no, I'mlike, I'm that dude, like you
ain't about to come over herewith your, your modern women's
shit and this, this and this islike yo, like fall in the fall
in the fall in line, like yo,it's gonna be what it's gonna be
.
Yeah, she, this lady, when hetell me this lady don't know how
to act at, when I say act, Imean not like act like she's

(52:33):
like not uh, respectful andstuff like that she don't know
if she coming or going when itcomes down, because she, like
she ain't never really been witha dude.
That's like nah, like puttingher in her place each and every
step of the way.
It's like it's not gonna happen.

DeLaw (52:46):
Yeah no, but I know what you're talking about.
I mean because in my head whenI see a lot of this, especially
chicks that I date, I rememberthey do this.
Oh well, you know, I just don'tsee the husband qualities in
you and I'm not going to bedoing wife qualities, if you
know.

Wes (53:01):
I'm like wait a minute.
You're saying stuff that youheard from someone else.

DeLaw (53:07):
There's no way you want me to show you husband qualities
, but you ain't even going toshow a wife quality.
What?
Just because you suck my dickand fuck me, that's the only
wife quality you got.

Wes (53:18):
Here's the catch-22.
I decide what my wife qualitiesor what my qualities are going
to be in my wife.
If I don't see those in you, itdon't matter what you think
you're doing, it gonna be in myway.
If I don't see those in you, itdon't matter what you think you
doing, it ain't it?
So in my head I'm like yo and Ihad the same thing happen to me
like around when I was like 22and shit like what, we need to
be married this, this and this.

(53:38):
And I'm so sure I'm like yo,I'm not ready for marriage,
can't even really, uh, supportyou or whatever, whatever,
whatever, it's not gonna happen.
Motherfucker tried to pressureme into marriage.
I was like it's not going tohappen.
Motherfucker tried to pressureme into marriage.
I was like it's not happening.

DeLaw (53:49):
Oh, I had the same thing Right when I was about to
transfer to UMBC.
I just got my accepting letterand we broke.
I want to say we broke up inOctober.
Like in October, I had just gotmy foot in the fist and she
calls me.
She's like October, I had justgot my foot in the fist and she

(54:11):
calls me.
She's like well, you know.
So what's up?
I'm like, well, nothing, youknow at this point.
We've been together five, sixyears, you know, from high
school, like 16 years old.
I'm like what's up?
Well, you know, like my momsaid that you know you, you know
you're stringing me along andlike if you can't marry me
within two years, then you knowobviously we need to be breaking

(54:34):
up.
I'm like what?
Where the fuck is this comingfrom?
We've been together since high,you know, since 16.
I'm in college.
I said I ain't got no way totake you.
I don't have no, no, no housefor you.

Wes (54:45):
I ain't got none of that shit when you, when you young,
when you young and dumb, likethat those things are supposed
to happen.
Like you know, if you're a man,you're a girl saying some shit
like that and y'all break it up,or you're thinking she the one
and she not the one, or you know, you find out she was sucking
somebody else's dick.
Like those things are supposedto happen, because that shit

(55:05):
happens.

DeLaw (55:12):
But that comes from her not having no good friends in
her corner and listen to hermom's story of how she was with
this one guy.
But her mom married thoughright, and that's the point Like
her mom, when she was in Jersey, was with this one guy.
I think he's a senator, he waslike a congressman, a senator in
New Jersey at the time thatthis all happened.

(55:32):
But your mom was in thisrelationship with this guy for
20 years or whatever, and sheknew the guy was cheating on her
.
She knew that he could see thegirl in his room, but she stayed
with him and then came toMaryland, met her husband.
They got married.
Whatever.
You're sitting here listening toyour mom's story, you're
internalizing your mom's story,thinking that that's what's

(55:54):
happening to you, when inactuality that ain't what's
happening to you.
We've been together since highschool.
I'm in college, you're in tradeschool.
It's not like she had her ownplace that she was living in.
She was living at her mom'shouse.
It wasn't like I had my ownplace I was living in.
I was living at my parents'house.
So if she had lived in her ownplace and I remember telling one

(56:18):
of my homies about this yearsago I said if either one of us
was living in our own place andwe had that conversation, she
had a point.
Nah, she don't she conversation.
She had a point no she don't.

Wes (56:34):
She don't have.

DeLaw (56:35):
Well, I'm not, no, hear me out for it.
Okay, here we go.
She would have a point becausenow I can move in, now we can
put our money and resourcestogether and and and build this
thing.
But neither one of us had evenstepped out of our parents house
to even venture out on our ownto do it, to pay for something
on our own.
So if she was like, well, let'ssay I was staying at her house

(56:57):
all the time, she's like well,you're going to marry me or not?
We've been together six years.
Okay, you got a point.
I, I get what you're saying,because now it looks like I'm
freeloading off you, but I ain'teven doing that because neither
one of us are on our own.
So you have no real foundationto say, well, you're just
stringing me along.
You lived in your own place andI was just coming over there

(57:20):
fucking you and keeping itrolling.
Oh, yeah, I'm stringing youalong then.
But come on like, yeah, yeah,once it was over.
It was over, and I remember wehad a conversation before that
breakup.
She's like, if we ever break upagain, like what I said, we
ever break up again, that's it.
I'm not coming back.

(57:40):
We've broken up two times.
The third time I'm done becauseyou break up with me over
bullshit every time, every time.
One time was because I don'twant to have a boyfriend going
into my senior year, but twoweeks later you're with your
ex-boyfriend who lives next door.
Okay, next time you break upwith me.
Well, I heard this sermon thatsaid that blase, blase, blase.

(58:02):
So I'm breaking up with you.
What?
And I asked one of the ladiesup too, like that's not what the
guy meant, like that's not whatthe guy meant, like that's not
how it should have been taken.
So she breaks up with youbecause of what?
Okay then, and then we break upagain.

Wes (58:20):
That's it, that's it that sounds like somebody that's
perpetually looking to be.
I ain't gonna to say looking,I'm going to say she probably
just wasn't happy.

DeLaw (58:36):
Look, I put it this way, me and her shouldn't even meet
in six years.
And look, I'm not going to sayI was a perfect saint in that
relationship.
But when it came down to thatrelationship, even though it was
cool and all, for the amount oftimes she'd cheat on me, I'm
like.
And then when I didn't comeback the third time, well, you

(58:59):
know, you treated me bad, likemy father treated my mom bad and
bothered Bitch.
You cheated with the same niggaevery time.
Bitch, I'm done for keep takingyour ass back.

Wes (59:15):
She tried to play victim.

DeLaw (59:17):
She tried to play the victim in a relationship that
you done caused it to break up.
You broke the woods every timeso that you and what I gathered
from it and I never said it toher, but in my head I said it
sounds to me every said it toher, but in my head I said it
sounds to me every time we brokeup so that you could go back to
him and be free to kind of fuckaround with him and then

(59:39):
realizing that nigga ain't shit.
Like why did I do that?
Like I need to go back to this.
You know what I'm saying.

Wes (59:46):
Yeah, Listen, I told my homie one time something that I
heard from one of my homegirlsshe said she was saying to the
group was like I need to hurryup and find a boyfriend because
when I get bored I just fuckaround with my baby father and I
don't want to continue to dothat.
And in my head I'm like this isa thing like women get bored

(01:00:07):
and then they just be like I'm afuck with him.
A thing like women get boredand then they just be like I'm a
fuck with him.
And that's what I'm saying.
Like yo, women show theirimmaturity in so many ways.
It's a lot different from guysbecause you know, we'll show our
immaturity in like the thingswe buy or like putting ourselves
in harm's way for no fuckingreason, like stupid shit, like

(01:00:27):
that they be bored.
Bored made you get into arelationship.

DeLaw (01:00:33):
I was telling my boy.
I was like, while we werechopping it up the other day, I
was like man with women.
Sometimes I don't understandtheir process.
It's like everything is like Ican give you a simplified answer
.
What's like everything is likeI can give you a simplified
answer.

Wes (01:00:54):
What's going to make me happy?
It's like the happiness thoughtcomes first and then everything
else comes second.
If it comes second, If it comessecond.
Long story short.
Dude deserved more than afucking smoothie for his
birthday.

DeLaw (01:01:07):
Yes, he did, he definitely did.
He definitely deserved morethan a fucking smoothie.
That bitch Whoa.

Wes (01:01:11):
He did, he definitely did he definitely deserved more than
a fucking smoothie.
That bitch Whoa, whoa, whoa,whoa, Jeez man.

DeLaw (01:01:20):
Hey look man, my mic is loose this week.
What?

Wes (01:01:25):
Hey, listen, you only continue to get what you
tolerate.
So he brought it to ourattention.
We'll see what happens withhomie.
Maybe we won't, but I wouldassume that that's another thing
too.
It's one of those things whereit's like, you know, sometimes
in relationships and shit, womenalways like to, they like to

(01:01:51):
acknowledge the, uh, the doublestandard when it comes to them
being the victim, right, butwhen they never, you know, they
never recognize the doublestandard when it's to their uh,
to their benefit, right, and Ibelieve most men, they just kind
of like oh, that's the game, Igotta play it.
Like, there's no way around it.

(01:02:11):
I'm the player in the game, Ididn't make the game, I can't
destroy the game, right, butthat's the game.
So it's just kind of likethat's how I go about shit.
It's more or less like yo, weall know like if you're like,
theoretically you work in andyour woman working because she
wanted to go to college, shestill expects you to pay for
stuff.
That's the game.

(01:02:31):
We know that you can kind ofget away with the, the her
paying for stuff.
If it's not 50, 50 it got to be60, 40 or 70, 30, we know
that's the game.
We also know there's a lot ofwomen out there that yo, I don't
want to pay for nothing, butI'm coming to you with a lot of
debt.
Maybe you can make that work.

DeLaw (01:02:53):
That's the game like coming to you with only pussy
that's the game.

Wes (01:02:59):
So it's kind of like come on now like men know this, you
gotta be better yeah we gotta bebetter as men my homie was
telling me.
He was like like we got to bebetter as men and we also have
to not allow them to go forwardto other men once they leave us
and we check them.
So we got to check them so thatthey know that yo, if I get

(01:03:20):
checked enough, like OK, I'm outof order, I'm out of pocket.
How the fuck do I expect tocome to this man with 100K in
debt and be like pussies here,marry me Like I ain't make that
debt with you, like you wouldn'teven put that on your, you
wouldn't even tell your son todo that.
If you was a mother Like yo, ifshe comes to you with $100K in

(01:03:40):
debt, your duty as a man is topay that.

DeLaw (01:03:44):
I hope no woman will ever tell their son to do that
Listen.

Wes (01:03:50):
I asked that question to one of my uh group uh, like
group friends and shit like thatand you know what one woman
said to get out of this questionnot answering it, the right
like not answer it at all.
She says I wouldn't mind if myson does that, if he, if the
woman is like me, I'm like whatdo you mean?
Like you, a gold digging bitch?
And she didn't understand whatshe was saying and I'm like no,

(01:04:12):
no, no, you and I'm trying tohelp her, but the whole table
looking at her, kind of crazy.
I'm like it don't matter whattype of woman you are.
Do you think that's fair foryour son to do that?
I wouldn't mind it if she'slike me.
I'm like no.
So basically you saying likeyou need that, you need that
type of assistance.
I'm just like come, come on,man.
My whole thing is if you wantto be a modern woman, those are

(01:04:35):
the modern prices.
You don't want to pay 50%, youdon't want to go half and half,
so you'll continue to pay foreverything on your own because
you want to be a modern woman.
If you was a traditional woman,you stand at your folks' house
until you get married off.
You ain't coming to him with nodebt and it's just a transition

(01:04:56):
.
Like you said earlier, like yo,he, my, whoever my daughter's
married, the man has to be ableto take her from here to here
and she not coming back and this, this and that.
That's how I was traditionallydone.
And I was talking to my homie.
He got like he got threedaughters.
He was like I would love for mydaughters to stay with me until
they get married.
Like that's the type of shitthat he wants.
He'll make sure that everythingis straight because he's dealt

(01:05:18):
with women, including his wife,that just fucking spend up money
, come to them, come with them,with debt, argumentative and
shit like that.
He was like no, I don't wantthat for my daughters.
I don't want them to be like yo.
I don't want their futurehusband to be like damn, this
nigga ain't teach her shit.
And I'm like I kind of agreewith you, like if I had

(01:05:39):
daughters, I'm like yo,hopefully they can stay with me
until they get married.

DeLaw (01:05:43):
How could you not agree?
Because it's I mean, it's cutand dry.
It's like women are expectingthese expectations of men and
they're not even providing thebare minimum.

Wes (01:06:01):
Here's the thing.
Granted, I'm not saying likeback traditionally, all women,
the traditional women back then,our grandparents or our
great-grandparents, all of themknew how to do everything.
Some of them couldn't sew wortha damn, some could not cook
worth a damn, some couldn't.
Some did some things betterthan others.
Right, all I'm saying is, ifthat, if that's the, if that's

(01:06:24):
the type of woman you want to be, you have to be that woman all
the way through.
If that's the type of man youwant to be, you got to be that
woman all the way through.
If that's the type of man youwant to be, you got to be that
man all the way through.
I don't want to be atraditional man.
I would like to be a modern man, and a modern man that wants a
modern woman.
And when I say that I mean youare, you understand, let's just
say our community.
You understand that no one'scoming from a place of privilege

(01:06:49):
.
You understand that, yo, youwon't have to work and you
understand we're going to makethis work together.
Now, me, being the man that Iam, I'm like yo, it's not going
to be 50 50, but you're going topay something.
So it might be a 70 30, and ifyou can't get with 70 30, then
yo, I'm the man.
You don't have to stay with me,you don't have to be with me,

(01:07:10):
it's not.
It only you know what I mean.
Like yo, that's just what it is.
Now, as a modern man, I can't goto a traditional woman and say
yo, go get a job, I'm gonna workyour ass to death.
She'll be like nah, I'mtraditional, like I'm ready to
move into a situation.
I ain't coming to you with nodebt.
I ain't coming to you with noextra whatever, whatever,
whatever.
I'm coming to you literally asa dependent and if you can pay

(01:07:32):
my phone bill, get my hair done,get me a little car and give me
a little stipend for you knowthe month, whatever, I'm
straight and it's kind of likeyeah, I could do like most men
could do that.
Like, if it's going to costlike a thousand dollars to
maintain you a month, what do we?
You know I mean, what are wereally doing?
What am I really missing out on?

(01:07:53):
The only thing that gets alittle crazy is if you get sick
or something happens to thebreadwinner.
She don't have no damn skills.
That's why modern women wasinvented.
You know what I mean, that'swhat it is.

DeLaw (01:08:08):
I can't even say.
That's why it was invented.

Wes (01:08:10):
No, I know why it was invented it was for money.

DeLaw (01:08:14):
Honestly, I wouldn't even say it was for money.
I'm telling you it was?

Wes (01:08:19):
I'm telling you it was because of the credit cards.
The credit card companieswanted credit cards.
Out there, women spent a lot offucking money, they're the
biggest consumers and shit likethat.
I might be mixing this up withsomething else.
So long story shortindependence.

(01:08:42):
I think that, if I'm notmistaken, lobbyists and credit
card companies pushed the womenempowerment right for that
particular reason for them to beable to get credit cards
because you couldn't get acredit card.
Companies push the womenempowerment right for that
particular reason for them to beable to get credit cards
because you couldn't get acredit card, you couldn't get a
credit card by yourself as awoman, you couldn't vote by
yourself as a woman, and this,this, and that Most women didn't
even want that fuckingprivilege.

(01:09:04):
They loved their man doingeverything because they stayed
at home, they looked after thekids, and you have to go do
whatever, whatever, whatever.
And even when women blamed thataspect of it, like we had to
get out there or this, this, andthat y'all didn't have to be
modern women at that point, youstill could have been
traditional.
Y'all just had the option.

(01:09:24):
Men don't have the option.
There's no.
Like yo, I'm going to just stayat home and you know, fuck
around, play some Call of Duty,and you go out there and do that
shit.
Y'all got the option of both.
I don't understand how theydon't see the ballers in their
court and they still playing thegame the wrong way.
You asking for too much is whatI'm trying to say.
Most of y'all asking for toomuch.

DeLaw (01:09:51):
Most of y'all asking for In my head.
They ask them for too much andthey're playing the game wrong,
because a lot of them always oh,I'm playing the game like y'all
guys, do no you're not.

Wes (01:09:55):
You can't play the game.
You're not a guy, right.
So you can't play the game likewe play.

DeLaw (01:09:59):
There's no way you're playing the game like I would
play, because if you're playingthe game like I would play, we
wouldn't have no issues.
Yeah.

Wes (01:10:08):
Yeah, don't settle for that smoothie.

DeLaw (01:10:10):
I wouldn't settle for that.

Wes (01:10:12):
Yeah, don't.
I think I would have broke upwith her on the spot.
You know, what I'm saying.
I might have On my birthday.

DeLaw (01:10:19):
You want to just buy me a smoothie.

Wes (01:10:22):
I get it If I go to Five dollars.
Dog.

DeLaw (01:10:25):
Five dollars.
If I go to Smoothie King allthe time you're like I'm going
to pay for your smoothie andwhatever.
Like, whatever your lunch was,I get it, I get it, I get it.
But if that's not somewhere Igo, you just want to go there,
so you pay, like now that's like.

(01:10:46):
That's like if my wife camedown and said, oh, I'm going to
take you to meet the mushroomand you know I don't eat vegan
shit.
You want to go there, not me.
But let's say you can't, youcome to my job and you're like
I'm going to take you to thisfood truck over here to Mike's
chef.
All right, cool, I want to getMike's chef today.

(01:11:07):
Anyway, so thank you for payingfor my lunch.
Like it's a little, it justdepends.
It just depends Like ifTropical Smoothie is somewhere
that he goes all the time andshe wanted to pay for his
regular smoothie that he gets, Idon't see nothing wrong with it

(01:11:29):
if she provides more.
She didn't, I mean, I know shedidn't, but if she provided more
, then I could understand it.

Wes (01:11:40):
Nah, yeah, that needs to be a whole Yo, we just get
shortchanged a lot when it comesto this shit.
That's what it is.
Yeah, Everybody got to dobetter man.
Everybody got to do better.
Everybody got to do better.
Everybody got to do better man.
Everybody got to do better.
Everybody got to do better.
Thank everybody for tuning in.
We'll see you next time.