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Wes (00:00):
fucking question comes up
like what you want?
I'm like in my head, I'm like Ifeel like I'm the fucking
bougie bitch because I'll belike yo, what I want, I'm not
going to ask you to buy becauseit costs too much fucking money.
It costs.
Listen, listen.
What I truly want right now isgoing to be like one of the
things I want is going to belike two thousand dollars.
What I actually want is goingto be yeah, what I actually want
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is going to be like 15.
So it's kind of like yo, I'llbe.
That's when I've resolved toyour shit, like I'll be happy
with this, this and this.
Go pick me up a video game.
You know, give me some.
It's gonna be a good day.
Everybody.
Welcome to another episode ofuh, the important west podcast
and, as always, we got DeLawhere.
DeLaw (00:43):
You got DeLaw the head
coach, the assistant coach of
the Green Belt.
Wes (00:54):
Dragons Yo, I don't even
think he coached for that team.
He don't even know the fuckingmascot.
DeLaw (00:59):
I think we're the Dragons
.
When I coached at Mount Oak, wewere the Saints.
When I coached for my uncle'steam, jehovah Christian
Ministries, we were, I want tosay, the Warriors.
This is my look.
I've been with the team for twoweeks.
I don't even know them littleniggas' names, I just be like
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hey you come, hey you come here,come here, move here all right.
Wes (01:27):
So we got d-law.
Don't know who their names are.
Devil son of all, you got mewest.
DeLaw (01:34):
Uh, just trying to
facilitate all of this and, like
my wife asked me, she said sohow do you think you played?
I said you, let me tell youfrom a, a fan perspective, or
from a coach perspective, or acoach perspective.
She was like, uh, I don't sharewith you.
I said I'll tell you from mine.
I said we play like pure trashyeah you know, we scored 10
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points.
The other, by the time we scored, the other team already had
nine.
You know, we didn't.
And the weirdest thing, and Iwas telling my old supervisor,
the head coach.
So he asked me to come on boardand I was telling him I was
like you know, I said we'regetting all hyped up and he's
like, well, at least we don'thave to.
I said I wasn't a very big,let's get hype, coach, we're
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winning it.
Here's the game plan.
Let's do this, let's do this,let's do this.
One, two, three, whatever.
You know what I mean.
They all, yeah, they get allhype, they get all hype.
As soon as the ball tipped offand that team scored the first
two points in the first five,ten seconds of the game, they
all went out the window.
Wes (02:42):
I was like Lord, I remember
one time this was like one of
the games, one of the only gamesmy mama came to and I just got
blown out.
By who we get blown out by.
I forget the team, but themotherfucker, I forget the team.
I was just like damn, this hadto be the one game my mom come
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to.
I hit my mom to.
I'm in the car.
They just seemed like they wasmore aggressive and they wanted
it more than y'all.
That was the first time Iwanted to say yo, you need to
mind your business.
Did you know what you didn'tsay?
I didn't say shit.
I said that shit under mybreath.
I said that shit as I went tobed last night.
You need to mind your business,these little motherfuckers.
DeLaw (03:25):
I said that shit as I
went to bed last night.
You need to mind motherfucker,these little motherfuckers, not
to call them littlemotherfuckers, because they're
good kids.
We got a couple kids that thisis their first year playing
basketball, so they're stillgetting accustomed to it.
First year, 11 and under.
Wes (03:40):
Oh, it's 11 and under 11
and under First year organized,
first year organized, first yearorganized.
DeLaw (03:47):
So imagine it's your
first year organized.
Wes (03:50):
You have my old supervisor,
who is Not on the plan that
first year organized.
DeLaw (03:58):
So you got your head
coach.
Former Georgetown player playedwith Alonzo Moore and played
with AI.
You got me, who I coached athigh school level, middle school
level, girls, boys, mixed.
I done played throughout mywhole life.
I have a nose and nose of thegame.
You got two guys who know whatthey're doing.
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You got a bunch of kids.
You got two solid kids whocould really, who won't even
focus enough to learn from us.
Then you got the rest of them.
As soon as a butterfly goesflying there's no butterflies in
the wintertime, what the fuck?
Oh shit, you see that we try towin games or we just here to
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have fun, like I mean, I don'twant to tell the kids like look,
I ain't you know, because we'renot supposed to according to
the code of conduct.
I ain't here to lose no games,I'm here to win this is what you
say.
Wes (05:00):
None of us here is to waste
.
None of us here.
None of us are here to wasteour time.
That us here, none of us arehere to waste our time.
That is a way of skirtingaround.
I'm not here to lose, nofucking games you should not be
here to lose no games.
Do you know how well your lifecan be in middle school if you
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win games?
You gotta be able to skirtaround their.
You know a?
way or skirt around the thingsyou ain't supposed to say to
pique their interest, Because weall know winning games and how
you get treated in school, thestories you hear I'm not saying,
but you get what I mean.
DeLaw (05:40):
Because they could have
easily got the Lord of the Devil
son-in-law yesterday and itwouldn't have been good.
I'd have, because they couldhave easily got D-Law, the
devil's son-in-law, yesterdayand it wouldn't have been good.
I'd have been like, look, youcan't, they went on yet, but you
can't get come back, you can'tdo these.
But I kept it, I kept it, Ikept it, just D-Law.
You won't believe what happenedto me.
Wes (06:03):
I'm sure I won't.
Camera's still fucking up.
I don't know why I did theupdate, man.
DeLaw (06:13):
Oh, man, man, man man.
Wes (06:16):
Lord, you had a fight
someone.
Hmm, you had a fight someone.
DeLaw (06:22):
Nah, nah, nah, nah, no.
So a person.
You know I'm not against women,I'm not against the feminist
movement.
So here we go.
The feminist movement is thedumbest shit ever.
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The feminist movement hascreated theseest shit ever.
The feminist movement hascreated these modern women who
don't like men and they want allmen to be women so that they
can like them.
It's craziness, but, lord, Idon't even know where to start.
I'll just start from thebeginning.
So I was told at my job by theyoung lady there that I was
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displaying toxic masculinity.
No, you know Someone told youthat at the job, yeah, you were
displaying toxic masculinity.
And I said why you say that?
Because the job, yeah, you'redisplaying toxic masculinity.
And I said why you say that?
Because, like, you're doingthings that are toxic.
I said so what did I do?
Wes (07:33):
well, I was telling you
about my boyfriend and lady, I
don't even hear this shit now.
DeLaw (07:38):
It's like I was telling
you about my boyfriend and you
told me that he wasn't wrong fortelling me about myself.
I said because he wasn't.
Wes (07:49):
I said my whole thing is
talking, go ahead.
DeLaw (07:54):
He wasn't.
He told you you being a brat,you being ungrateful, you being
this, and you were.
I said in the day if I was backin the dating pool, who's
dealing with that shit?
I said in the end of the day,if I was back in a dating pool,
who's dealing with that shit?
I said at the end of the day,you out here expecting him to
give you diamond and gold allyou got is sex.
Wes (08:14):
You didn't say that Okay,
okay, that's another situation.
That's an HR call at that point.
DeLaw (08:20):
Yeah, that's an HR call,
but pretty much I said all you
have to offer is sex that you'vegiven to other guys.
That's what I thought, that'show I said it.
So you can't be mad that he'sready to move on and he don't
want you.
So what's the issue?
You didn't hear my side of it.
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You know he would.
He hit me.
So why'd you stay?
Well, because I thought it wasjust one time I said well,
you're done for that.
Well, you know he's.
He's like 20 years older thanme, so why are you dating whoa,
whoa, whoa?
So once he said that, I waslike well, why, why are you
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dating a 20 year old?
Then you got it.
Oh, you know, um, there's nogood guy out there.
Wes (09:15):
I said it probably is yo
for sure the fuck yo it probably
is.
DeLaw (09:18):
I said you just think
they lame, you think they more,
they don't fit your swag.
Wes (09:26):
I don't understand how a 20
year old man does.
If that's the case, hold on.
So first of all, you gotta backthis up just a smidge.
You told she didn't okay, shewas acting like a brat, her
defense was you didn't Okay shewas acting like a brat.
Her defense was you didn't hearmy part.
DeLaw (09:49):
I didn't.
Wes (09:51):
I didn't tell you my part.
DeLaw (09:52):
I didn't validate her
part.
Wes (09:53):
I didn't validate her part.
You don't know the whole story.
He hit me.
DeLaw (10:00):
But she tells me that
after the fact she didn't tell
me that when she really told methe story.
Wes (10:04):
What was her part again
that, uh, you told us last time
he put his hands on her, prettymuch what she said no, no, no,
no, no.
Before you found that out, youtold me this last time we talked
that she was a brat.
What was the reason you saidshe was a brat again?
DeLaw (10:23):
who was it?
That was a long time ago.
No, no, this is a different guy.
Hold up.
Wes (10:32):
No, no, no, Hold up.
We've had this conversationlike this.
I've heard this before.
DeLaw (10:40):
That was a different
person.
Wes (10:41):
So another person got
called a Brett Okay.
Why did she got called a brat?
Okay, why did she get called abrat?
DeLaw (10:49):
Because the guy she said.
So what I gather from shewouldn't tell me the whole thing
.
I gather she was asking for toomuch.
Oh well, how come you don'ttake me out no more?
How come you don't do this?
Like you got me.
Now we just sitting out likejust being like a brat, like I
get it, you want to go out, youwant to do this.
But have you ever asked him?
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And I said did you ever ask himwhat's going on?
Do you care about his emotionalwell-being?
Maybe something's going on.
He just wants to talk tosomebody emotionally there to be
trying to support you inwhatever bullshit you're going
through.
Yeah Well, why does it matter?
Like I'm supposed to be themain thing for him.
Like, why, like I get it, hegoes through stuff and I listen
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to him.
But like who really cares?
Wes (11:33):
I'm like, well, that's why
she said who really cares?
Who really cares, and that wasverbatim, that's why you called
him a brat I why you called hima brat.
I mean, that's why you calledher a brat.
Yes, okay, that sounds likebrat shit.
DeLaw (11:46):
It sounds like brat shit.
And so she's like, well, youknow, he hit me.
I said, oh, okay, well.
Wes (11:54):
Why'd she throw that out
there so casually?
Did she throw it out therecasually?
DeLaw (12:00):
No, she said you don't
know the whole story about all
of it and how I've been tryingto support him, and you know,
but he done hit me a couple oftimes.
I said, okay, then lead offwith that.
Lead off with that.
Wes (12:14):
You're trying to justify
your attitude based on it sounds
like first time hearing.
What it sounds like is that shewasn't getting a response.
She was getting, so she waslike victim.
Well, he hit me, he's beenhitting me and it's kind of like
and granted, not granted, Itake it.
DeLaw (12:36):
I'm not for guys hitting
women.
Wes (12:37):
I'm not either, but how old
is this woman?
DeLaw (12:42):
just to protect the
innocent, we'll say 30.
I mean we don't know her, buther boo thing is like 50, 60,
somewhere around that age range.
She said 20 years I don't knowhow old the motherfucker is so
that when she said he was, Ithink she said he was like 60,
so I'm assuming she's around.
Wes (13:00):
I'm only asking that
because it's kind of like you
have the wherewithal, you shouldhave the wherewithal and the
experience.
I would assume.
Asking that because it's kindof like yo, you have the
wherewithal, you should have thewherewithal and the experience.
I would assume at that age youknow what.
This ain't cool.
No man should be putting hishands on me.
My experience usually brats areusually the ones that start
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putting their hands on you first.
DeLaw (13:23):
Now, this is the kicker,
this is the part that got me.
Now, mind you, she from PrinceGeorge, she from Suitland or
whatever and I was like, shoutout to Suitland, shout out to
Suitland.
I was like In my head, I'm likey'all were just talking about
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getting married and I'm like howy'all just gonna all of a
sudden just break up like that,like what the nigga do?
She's like, well, he's not anigga, he's a white man.
I said, oh lord you're sostupid.
Wes (13:53):
You're so stupid.
I'm not laughing at that.
I'm not laughing at that.
DeLaw (14:00):
I'm not laughing at that
and it wasn't that I wanted to
stereotype the white dude,because we always see them TV
shows and movies where the whitedudes the oldest shit messing
with them, young gents justsmacking them around.
That's what popped in my headwhen he said it.
I was like, are you serious?
I'm like so let me get thisstraight.
You got men your age and you gofor the old wrinkly white dick,
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like, come on, like, make itmake sense.
And you go for the old wrinklywhite dick, like come on, like,
make it make sense.
And I told her your firstmistake was I tried to use
straight face.
Wes (14:37):
Okay, hold on, hold on, I'm
going to do it straight face.
So hold on.
God damn, hold on.
I can't see your face becauseyour screen is frozen.
Alright, I'm going to do itStraight face.
DeLaw (14:47):
So hold up, goddamn Hold
up.
Wes (14:49):
I can't see your face
because your screen's frozen.
Yeah, my shit fucked up.
DeLaw (14:51):
I can imagine what it
looks like.
Wes (14:54):
So, so hold up.
So why?
Okay, what was the kicker?
She that you, she said thatpart, but the time that you do,
you know, the times that he puthands on her, for no, I, that
was my first time hearing it I'mnot, so I'm not adding up.
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I'm not.
No man should be putting theirhands on a woman.
I'm not.
That's not the part that's notadding up.
The part that's not adding upis why are you still there?
Usually someone is being abused.
They don't tell you someone.
That's to say someone's beingabused.
I would assume and for my, uh,I don't have that much
experience in it because I ain'tdoing the abusing and I really
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don't um know too many womenthat are that have been abused.
I know some.
They don't exhibit bratbehavior and stay with the guy.
DeLaw (15:50):
I think they so because
remember I talked about the
little 21 year old messing withthe dude from the other state,
this one, I think she has kidsby her, the older guy yeah.
Then she got like two kids bythe white guy.
Oh, my gosh so and, mind you, Idon't have no kids except for my
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step-sister.
I don't know how it is forwomen when you're in that sort
of relationship and you got kids.
I don't know if it is hard toleave or if you don't want to
leave because Yo, no, no, no, no, no.
Wes (16:31):
The thing is, you said that
she said yeah, you got feelings
, you're probably dealing withstuff, but who cares?
Do you think someone is gettingabused?
That sounds like something thatthey would say.
DeLaw (16:47):
I put this way, I think
it would be something that
someone would say that's fed up.
Wes (16:54):
With the abuse and stuff
like that.
You can't keep saying thatthat's the reason why you're
doing it.
I got that.
I can understand that.
DeLaw (17:02):
She's fed up, because she
was like yeah, blah, blah, blah
.
And so pretty much from what Igather from her is that he's
moved out, he left the house andnow they're selling the house
because they live together.
And so you know, that's why I'mlike, that's why, when she said
it and she was like alright,well, clearly you guys are
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broken.
You finally left.
But in my head I'm like so yougot two kids by this dude.
You are selling your house,y'all about to get married.
So now I guess you know nowyou're not getting married, no
more.
You're like man, fuck thatnigga, fuck this, fuck that blah
blah.
Because now you're sitting,you're not getting married, no
more.
You're like man, fuck thatnigga, fuck this, fuck that blah
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blah.
Because now you fed up.
But not once did you think, okay, how do I do better in this
relationship?
Like?
It to me would always soundedlike was, do this for me, do
this for me, do this for me, dothis for was, do this for me, do
this for me, do this for me, dothis for me, do this for me.
And you already know thisdude's been married once.
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So if you never asked him, well, how did your last relationship
end Like there's questions.
You got to ask him, man, but itsounded to me that it was about
her, and when he had somethingon his mind that he wanted to
say and she's like man, shedecided man, fuck your feelings,
nigga.
It got to a point where maybehe did touch her, which was
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wrong.
It's just completely wrong,definitely.
But if you're in a relationshipwith somebody and they can't
feel like they can talk to you,eventually they're going to
explode.
Black, white, asian, don'tmatter who it is, man or woman.
If I don't valid, if I don'ttalk to my wife and and and get
her to come out and say what wason her mind, she's gonna blow
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the fuck up.
Yeah, it's the reality of it.
And I, and even me telling mywife, I said look, you can't
every time I tell you somethingyou can't say well, you know,
it's funny how you say this, butyou do this.
No, no, that is not what theissue is.
Anytime he told you something,did you say that.
Well, I mean, he told me I didthis, but that's what he said.
Wes (19:14):
But once again, it's not
good communication, it's
combative communication.
DeLaw (19:20):
Combative communication,
because now you're attacking me,
so now I'm going to tell youwhat you did to piss me off.
Wes (19:25):
It's like, oh so not taking
criticism, basically, or
accountability, that thing, thatthat it's so elusive for some,
for some people and and themajority of those people are
women so elusive thataccountability?
Oh my gosh, goodness, thataccountability.
Oh my gosh, goodness forbid.
I tell you like, hey, this issomething I don't like that
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you're doing.
How could you tell me that I'mdoing everything right, I'm
perfect, right?
DeLaw (19:51):
And that's how they think
of it.
And then, when you hear themtalk about that, well, he
thought he was perfect, hethought he did everything right.
Wes (20:02):
Well, what did he do wrong?
Well, he did this thing.
If you don't never tell me I'mdoing something wrong, I'm going
to think I'm doing everythingright, and that's what I always
tell my wife.
I'm like yo don't have mefeeling like I'm doing
everything right, cause that'sthe and I'm doing and I'm
actually doing something wrong,cause that's the number one
thing that my pet peeve is thatI hate like smiling and thinking
I'm, you know, I got shit goingon, I'm this, this, this and
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this, and all the while you'resitting in the corner struggling
and shit, and it could besomething that I could change,
like at that drop of a hat andthen you happy again.
I would hate for my wife or mywife because I mean, I'm the
other woman.
I wait for my wife to feel likeyou know, I ain't doing what
I'm supposed to do or to make,not to make her happy, but just
to make sure that she she'scomfortable being my wife.
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You know what I mean.
Like the other, happiness, shit, some of that shit I can't
control, like I can't.
You know what I mean.
Like the other stuff that Ican't control, I can't control
that's, that's what it is.
That is what it is, but outsideof that, yeah, I would love to
do any and everything so this is.
DeLaw (20:59):
This is when I became the
devil's son-in-law on the back
half of this conversation.
So she said well, you know,this 2025 is going to be working
on me.
I said, okay, that's cool.
Wes (21:17):
Working on you is a
never-ending thing.
DeLaw (21:19):
Right.
So here I go.
I said so what are you going towork on?
And she just looked at me likewhat?
I said, yeah, what are yougoing to work on?
And she just looked at me likewhat?
I said, yeah, what are yougoing to work on?
I mean working on you.
What are you going to work on?
I mean, you can't just say workon you and not have a goal of
what you're going to work on.
Oh well, you know my attitude.
What about your attitude?
What do you mean?
My attitude as a whole.
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I said why you want to keepthings to yourself.
Wes (21:48):
At that point she had
already pissed me off by calling
me toxic masculinity, that Ijust wanted to be a pure asshole
just for that, I'm going tomake you think twice about what
the hell you done said andhopefully I send you home more
confused than you already arebecause you a confused
motherfucker.
I've done that.
I've done that.
I was like, oh, we're going tobreak down your shit today.
DeLaw (22:10):
Right, because you know
what, because let it have been
me, that's the question somebodywould ask me.
I'm like so, I said so what'swrong with your attitude?
What does?
Wes (22:17):
that mean to you Like,
because attitude is a broad,
broad term.
They're like what about yourattitude?
Is it good, is it bad?
Are we going to do this?
We're going to do this all theway, and then I'm going to show
you that you're just sayingstuff and you have no plans to
actually do it.
DeLaw (22:33):
You're saying something
that's going to sound good,
because when you go out and youstart messing with other dudes,
well you know, I don't want tobe just working on myself.
Well, bitch, what you're workingon.
How long does it take you towork on yourself?
Did you go to counseling?
Did you do this?
Well, no, I don't believe inOkay.
Well, cool, that's fine.
So you said you can work onyour mouth, but at what point
did you talk to somebody aboutwhy you do all this?
Why are you just spitting shitout your mouth just to hurt
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somebody's feelings?
Well, if they hurt my feelings,that's the case.
Wes (23:03):
One thing is you need to
work on being vindictive.
That is clearly right there,right, listen, the fact that I
said that working on yourselfshould be a never ending thing.
Anytime I'm talking to any ofthe homies or whoever have you
even family members and they askthat stuff, I can, without
hesitation, tell you all thethings I need to work on,
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because it's constantly smackingme in the face Like I either
cause some harm in some waybecause I did it or said it, or
not acting accordingly, orwhatever, whatever, whatever,
like that's how some people needno, all people need to live
that way.
Be aware of your shortcomings,the only way you're going to get
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better and they don't becomeshortcomings.
You know you might overcomethat.
You don't have that flawanymore.
You don't have that, uh, thatbad habit.
But a lot of people like payingthat lip service, shit like oh,
I'm gonna work on it, this, thisand that.
Oh, they made me go back to theold me.
They made me do this, this andthis.
Oh, I'm going back to you.
Know what?
They made me do this, this andthis, or I'm going back to you
know what I mean?
It's just kind of like nah,you're choosing to.
DeLaw (24:09):
Yeah, because I'll say
this for women, and I'm not
going to say men aren't the sameway, but for a lot of women,
men, are definitely the same way.
I'm not saying they aren't, butyou hear from women.
They made me go up.
Well, even my woman.
They made me go up.
Even my wife.
She almost brought the bitchout of me.
I said, well, how did she dothat?
Well, because she was asking methese questions and she knew I
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didn't know the answer.
I said, well, how do you knowthe answer?
Because they didn't train me onit.
I said, okay, I mean, I getthat, but how are they going to
bring something out of you?
And she's just like you knowwhat?
Never mind, I don't even wantto talk about it.
I'm just asking because you'retelling me they're about to do
this, they're about to almostbring this out, which means that
now you want to bring this home.
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So I need to know what am Ipreparing for?
I mean, I know dudes that belike man.
I went out to the bar and thisdude kept challenging me.
So, man, he brought an old me.
I had to smash it.
Everybody has that moment.
But I feel like women theyalways say dudes got short fuse.
I feel like women have no fuse.
Yeah, women have no fuse.
Wes (25:11):
You know what's crazy about
that whole?
What we're talking about nowToday I was thinking because I
was talking to one of myhomegirls about some stuff and
it was kind of like she made astatement about.
She didn't make a statement, itwas just like a comment.
Like you know, I'm just tryingnot to be that way this year and
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this is like the same wholething.
Like the old me, or what I'mtrying to not do is this, this
and that.
And I thought about I'm like Ithink sometimes, with certain
people, they run into a wallwhen they get in the mindset of
like I'm still fleshing this out, I just thought about it today.
They get into the mindset oflike yo, I'm trying to not be
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the old me, but you gottarecognize.
I feel like you need toacknowledge what makes you that
way and don't change that.
You are that way, but changewhat you do when that, when that
moment or that feeling comesabout.
Because if that is who you arelike, then that's who you are.
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That's who you are.
However, um, I'm still fleshingit out, so that's why I sound
like a bunch of whatever.
If that's who you are, that'swho you are.
However, um, okay, I'll giveyou a better example.
This is probably the best wayto explain this.
Tupac.
I know I'm going left fieldwith this shit.
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Tupac side note.
Before I get to the Tupac shit,we got robbed of a tiny Tupac
side note.
Before I get to the Tupac shit,we got robbed of a Tiny Desk
Tupac situation.
Think about how dope that wouldhave been.
We would have got some poetry,we would have got some thug-ass
shit.
But that's a whole otherconversation.
DeLaw (26:55):
I would have said the
same thing about Big.
Wes (26:58):
Yeah.
DeLaw (27:00):
But before you finish
your story I'm going to say this
the Tiny Desk.
I'm not saying this for peoplewho are trying to revitalize a
career or they're on tour orsomething, but by that point I
don't think they would have beentoo interested in doing Tiny
Desk because they you knoweveryone that's done it has been
like well, they came out likethey made mainstream at like 99,
(27:25):
2000.
You know what I'm saying?
Tupac and Big 92.
You know if I saw Nas?
on Tiny Desk alright, butWu-Tang is the only ones from
that Biggie and Tupac era thatI've seen on there, and they
didn't even have all of Wu-Tang.
They had the Wu-Tang part thatwasn't Method man Right.
Wes (27:45):
The only reason why I say
Tupac is because, um, his range
as far as talent and creativitywas so vast that he could have
been doing some poetry.
He could have been doing newpoetry that we never heard of.
(28:06):
He would have been recitingsome of this stuff as poetry
Might have been.
We don't know what Tupac wouldhave done, but that's our vision
of shit.
We would have got some poetry.
We would have got some raps.
We would have got somethought-provoking stuff we would
have got.
He might have showed up in allblack and had the Black
Panther's whole situation.
That's what I'm saying.
DeLaw (28:26):
I think they more or less
robbed us of a Tupac Biggie.
Well, not Tupacupac, but themindividually.
If they, or if they did squash,it'd be of a front porch before
Tiny Desk.
Wes (28:38):
Tupac would've jumped.
Tupac definitely would'vejumped on that front porch.
DeLaw (28:41):
Hell yeah, he would've.
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
And if Big was, you know Bigwas still alive, or you know he
was like hey, man, that shitpopping, like I'm about to drop
an album, let me go out here, yo, it would have been juicy part
two, because he would have, like, did it in front of the same
brownstone Boom.
Wes (28:57):
But okay, let me go back to
my yeah, yeah, yeah.
DeLaw (29:03):
Your far left point.
Wes (29:04):
Yeah, my far left point.
So Tupac, for example like youhad the conscious Tupac, you had
the gangster rap Tupac, you hadthe actors.
Those are different aspects ofthat man.
Those were different aspects ofthat man.
Some people was like, well, youdon't know if he was really
this.
He was really that, he was allof those things.
No matter what you, you know,defining him to like, oh, he had
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to be one of those things, sothe other stuff must not have
been real.
Because you hear that argumentsometimes and this, this, and
that I feel like that's the samething that, uh, all of us have
to uh kind of tap into.
Like yo, if you know you can bea hothead, that's fine.
Learn when the when it's timefor that, because sometimes,
when it's time for that, youknow that that's the
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motherfucker you want in yourcorner like, all right, it is
time for this nigga because he'sone like let's just say, we all
out and about my, my homie, heacting cool until it's time not
to act cool, but this is thenigga I want in my corner when
it's time for things to be notcool.
I, I am now starting to thinklike yo, learn how to harness
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who, that what that is learn howto respect people when you're
interacting with them.
Not to say that you can'tchange those habits, but learn
and acknowledge that you gotthat shit in.
You use it for good and notevil, like great responsibility,
great power, that bullshit likenot bullshit, but you get what
I mean, like that type of shit.
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Haven't fleshed that wholethought out, but I was just
thinking like, well, shit,motherfucker, you've been saying
this for years.
You don't have to.
Obviously you I ain have to,obviously you I ain't gonna say
obviously you can't do it, butobviously you're missing what
you're supposed to be doing,which is probably just treating
people with respect.
That's the best what I'm tryingto get at.
So that's what I was saying.
As far as, like her, sayingthat when you was like you was
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being a complete asshole, likeI'm going to work on me and this
, this, and that Sometimes I'mjust like when it comes to
certain things like that, shitfirst starts with
acknowledgement and you justkind of lean into the
positiveness of that and thenyou'll eat what I'm thinking
You'll be able to stop thatnegativity because you see that
you can still be yourself and itcould come out in a positive
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outcome have a positive outcomeBecause that's how I see it.
DeLaw (31:16):
It's like if, in the long
run and not that I I appreciate
that dude beating on it becauseno, no no, you know what I'm
saying, but to to notacknowledge what also you've
done wrong to me.
(31:37):
You know, and there's nothing inmy mind that my wife could do
to me for me to hit her, but Icould also tell you she does a
lot of stuff to me that makes mevery irritated, in that she
knows she's wrongful, but untilI say something she doesn't know
, and then you say, well, whatdo I care about his feelings,
like you know what I'm saying,he's a man, he's a man, you know
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it's like no, no, that's notwhat we do Basically.
Wes (32:01):
you shouldn't have that
mentality, Right?
No, you shouldn't have that.
Because you wouldn't want us tohave that mentality about you
or just women in general.
DeLaw (32:10):
Right, because if that
you cook clean, fuck and shut
the fuck up, you're going to beall in your feelings.
And then, when you don't do itand he put his fist in your face
, you're going to be like why'dyou hit me, Bitch?
I told you what to do and soyou don't want that.
And we don't want to feel likeour feelings aren't secure or
valid, because that's what weall run across, is that when
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something bothers us and we saysomething to you about it, next
thing we know is you're turningit on us and we're apologizing
for making you feel bad becausewe feel bad.
When is that?
Come on, it don't make no sense, yeah.
Wes (32:49):
Valentine's Day is coming
up.
Yeah, question to you have youbeen paying it forward Like your
taxes, if you get what I mean?
Have you been paying it forward?
DeLaw (33:05):
I barely get shit back on
my motherfucking taxes, but
what I do get normally goes tomy wife.
Wes (33:15):
That's not what I'm saying.
Have you been paying it forwardin the regards of like yo, I've
been doing what I'm supposed tobe doing in this marriage that
Valentine's Day should just be alayup.
DeLaw (33:34):
I always pay for it sort
of okay, smart guy it should?
This should be a layup.
She was just asking me what Iwanted to.
I said look, babe, at the endof the day, as long as I get to
spend time with you it don'tmatter what we do, why you lie
to that woman like this enoughyou know what you want.
(33:58):
Yeah, I know I want that cheekin the mouth, but still I got
you.
Remember we had thisconversation almost two, three
years ago that men can't saywhat men want to say, because if
we say it that way, because wedidn't say it a different way,
they don't want to do it Everytime that fucking question comes
up, like what you want.
Wes (34:19):
I'm like in my head, I'm
like I feel like I'm the fucking
bougie bitch because I'll belike yo, what I want, I'm not
going to ask you to buy becauseit costs too much fucking money
it costs.
Listen, listen.
What I truly want right now isgoing to be like one of the
things I want is going to belike $2,000.
What I actually want is goingto be what I actually want is
going to be like $15,000.
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So it's kind of like yo.
That's when I've resulted inyour shit, like I'll be happy
with this, this and this.
Go pick me up a video game.
You know, give me some, it'sgoing to be a good day.
DeLaw (34:56):
All it's going to be a
good day.
All I ask for, whatever I askfor, is free.
Wes (34:59):
What I'm going to do is
just not make sure her jaw get
locked up.
Nah, here's the thing.
I'm not saying that it has tobe monitored, but this is one of
the one few and rare situationswhere it's like yo, I can
request something of you withoutfeeling like a you know,
whatever, whatever.
So, yeah, I could requestsomething of you without feeling
like a you know, whatever,whatever.
So, yeah, I'm going to requestsomething and usually I'm not.
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And usually I'm requesting,like yo, a video game and shit,
Like shit.
Earlier on in me and my wife'srelationship before we got
married and shit, she asked mewhat I wanted, for it was
something.
You know what I told her.
I said yo, give me the newtravis sky giant birds in a trap
(35:40):
.
And and it was, yeah, birds inthe trap, st mcknight or birds
in the trap.
I forgot.
I remember the original titlewas gonna be birds in the trap,
st brian, mcknight or some shitlike that, but it was birds in
the trap and something another,I forget another giant, maybe a
Dom Kennedy joint, and I wasgoing to be there and I'm like
yo, I don't really be wantingnothing for real.
For real, it's the fact for me,as a man like yo, we don't get
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gifts like that.
So why not let it be somethingthat I'm like, okay, I'm going
to use this shit.
Like, oh, give me a wallet.
Like what if I did the woman?
Shit, Give me a wallet, Give mesome, give me the new J's.
I'm going to kill them J's.
You know what I mean?
Like I'm not going to have themforever.
DeLaw (36:22):
You gave me a good idea.
I'm going to ask her for ablanket with my name on it.
That actually fits me.
A what?
Wes (36:32):
So for yeah, I remember the
story, the blanket don't fit.
Do not bring that up with herDon't say do not say, do not say
, give me a blanket that fits,because it's going to make her
feel like, like what?
DeLaw (36:44):
No, I have a point now in
my marriage, and I think she's
gotten to that point too, whereif it ain't right, it ain't
right.
Wes (36:54):
I hear you, Because she'll
be like look.
DeLaw (36:57):
And I told her.
I said, if I had brought you toa too small blanket like that,
you'd have looked at me likedamn, and you fucked that up.
Wes (37:04):
Right, like you don't
really love me because you ain't
take the due diligence to payattention to feed us us.
DeLaw (37:10):
I wouldn't even have sent
it back.
I'd have just brought anotherone that was bigger, yeah, and
it came in just to appease it.
But she brought that for me twoyears ago.
I ain't got no new blanket.
That means do you love me?
Do you love me for real?
Wes (37:29):
That's not gonna work.
Yeah, yo yo For the sake of thepod.
So we gonna have a story you dothat, you do that, you do that,
and we'll follow up.
DeLaw (37:44):
Hopefully she don't say
she want to uncouple.
Wes (37:47):
Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah,
we'll follow up.
But shit, I'm trying to seewhen new games come out.
So whatever's out right aboutnow, I ask her to get it for me
or some shit.
DeLaw (37:56):
I get it from my wife all
the time.
What do you want forThanksgiving?
Wes (38:01):
What I want for
Thanksgiving is my ring.
DeLaw (38:07):
I feel like I don't.
I would never ask nobody forsomething that I know I can't
afford.
You know what I'm saying.
If all I know is I can't afford, Right, you know what I'm
saying.
So if all I know is I can giveyou dick and and and engage some
cunnilingus, hey, that's what Ican give you.
So if that's good enough for me, it's good enough for you.
Wes (38:30):
True, indeed, true indeed.
DeLaw (38:31):
So now we're at a point
where, well, what do we want to
do?
True, indeed.
So now we're at a point where,well, what do we want to do?
So, do we want to go and getdinner?
So now it becomes a well, whatdo we want to do?
Do we want to go?
Wes (38:39):
and get dinner.
Mind you, it ends up beingY'all actually be doing dinner
on Valentine's Day.
DeLaw (38:44):
We do yeah.
Wes (38:46):
I hate that shit man.
DeLaw (38:47):
So and it's my fault that
I fucked it up I fucked it up
this time, so I took itsomewhere four pounds I think,
but I also cooked four.
Now, what I didn't compensatefor was I made jambalaya, and
jambalaya was good, but I forgotthat you gotta separate the
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shit.
Wes (39:12):
So now, when I talked about
this, the rice rice got to be
separate.
DeLaw (39:18):
When I say separate, you
still want the rice to have the
flavor of the stuff.
You still stew it in thetomatoes and stuff like that.
But everything else you can putin a different sauce and put it
over it.
I did it all together.
I was like I ain't got time towait for shit.
You know what I'm saying.
And then you know also, could Ihave made the rice on the side
(39:42):
and then did the whatever?
Yeah, I could have, but that'snot jambalaya.
You know what I'm saying.
You know it's pretty much someshit over rice.
Wes (39:53):
Which I'm going to the key
to.
I know we're getting all on atangent here.
The key is to have that stew,juice, broth shit, a little bit
of that, separate, so when theoriginal shit dry out, you can
kind of just pour a little bitin there, whisk it up a little
bit, warm it up, boom.
DeLaw (40:10):
Yeah, probably.
Wes (40:12):
I don't know, I'm just
saying things.
DeLaw (40:14):
Here's what I'm planning
for for this Valentine's I'm
going to make gumbo okay okay,so that means I do got to buy
some crab meat, got to buy somemussels and oysters I'm going to
make it a seafood check.
I got to buy some chickenthighs, you know whatever.
(40:35):
Um, after that pretty mucheverything's easy.
Um, the hardest part is pickingout the uh, picking out the
stuff out the crab meat, theshells and shit.
That's the hardest part of thewhole thing.
But making the rule, gettingyour onions and peppers, making
sure you do all that, boom, putthe little.
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And make sure, if you decide todo this, make sure you get a
good seafood broth that you canpour in there to get the whole
thing going, boom, boom, once itgets thick, throw your stuff in
there.
Put your rice on the side.
Now I will do jambalaya again.
I am going to do jambalayaagain.
I'm not going to say I won't,and you know I might have enough
(41:18):
money that I might could justdo both.
Make a pot of rice, here'sgumbo, here's jambalaya, which
one you want, babe, you knowwhat I'm saying.
Yeah, so we'll see how it allplays itself out.
But that's the plan.
Plan.
I got a month to go to figureall this out no, you don't.
(41:39):
I got three and a half weeks, soI got time.
I got two paychecks between nowand then to like buy this shit
to whatever.
But what I've really beenbothered about is that how all
these fucking companies gotthese lump crab meat, crab cakes
(42:02):
, and all I can find is the shitthat I get.
I want my crab meat to looklike that, with the lump crab
meat and that motherfuckertasting good.
All the lump parts all the goodlump parts are all on the top
and after you dig through itit's just a little stringy meat
and shit.
Where the fuck they get thatshit from?
Wes (42:21):
I don't know, I don't cry
to me like that.
DeLaw (42:24):
I might just have to
order some from Jimmy Seafood.
Wes (42:29):
So listen to this story,
alright.
My wife wants to travel withoutluggage for Valentine's.
I don't.
So off the rip before I eventell you the story.
Why do you think the reason isthe wife wants to travel without
luggage?
DeLaw (42:45):
Because she wants to
spend my goddamn money.
Wes (42:47):
Ding, ding ding.
So that's what I thought, butapparently that's not what she
says.
Let's read she don't want totake a shower and have her
koozies staying here.
I don't know.
Here's how this shit go.
We are a married couple.
I'm 30.
She's 30.
30 for 30.
They're both 30.
We're planning a trip onValentine's Day to Europe from
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London, where we stay.
My wife chose Vienna and aflight with Rain Air or Ryan Air
, ryan Air, ryan Air, ryan RyanAir, priced at 60 pounds each.
That must be the spirit abovethat area she suggested we take.
She suggested we should takethat flight for a four-day trip.
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The flight doesn't include anyluggage.
With cabin luggage the flightis worth 120 each and she said
we can manage without theluggage.
She says she wants to experiencetraveling for a cheap amount
and doesn't want to spend toomuch.
For context, we are highearners and we live way below
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our means, so this is not due tobudget constraint.
I suggested that we should atleast be able to take some cabin
baggage, as I don't liketraveling without clothes,
especially on a four day trip.
We got into an argument and nowshe won't talk to me.
I told her I wouldn't want togo for a trip if this is how
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we're going to be traveling.
So to me that does sound likean okie doke be traveling, so to
me that does sound like anokey-doke, like we ain't gonna
go with some stuff, and then I'mgonna miraculously be like I
need the Gucci stores here.
Can we stop in here?
DeLaw (44:26):
It is.
Wes (44:26):
Valentine's.
DeLaw (44:27):
Day.
Wes (44:28):
Think about where they're
going.
DeLaw (44:29):
They're going to Italy.
Wes (44:31):
No, vienna's in Italy,
isn't it Vienna's Austria, or
something like that, right?
I thought Vienna was Italy.
No, vienna's in Italy, Vienna'sAustria, right, or some shit
like that right.
DeLaw (44:36):
I thought Vienna was
Italy.
Wes (44:38):
Is it?
I don't know.
We both definitely said twodifferent fucking countries yeah
, you know what austria?
DeLaw (44:51):
yeah, yeah, I knew it was
something like that was italy,
but yeah, it's venice isprobably what you're talking
about.
Yeah, see, yeah see, look,that's how you know I don't read
enough.
Look, in my head I was spellingit out and I spelled venice.
I ain't spoke Vienna, vienna,sausage.
Wes (45:13):
Yo.
I'm automatically thinking,like yo, like, yeah, this is an
okey-doke, what you planning tokill him?
Wow, it's a whole violent sideof the day.
I mean, like it would be easier.
Like yo, I ain't got paid asmuch money.
This is the net.
Blah, blah, blah.
That easier.
Like yo, I ain't got paid asmuch money.
(45:33):
This, this and that, blah, blah, blah.
That's the morbidness in methinking.
But you know, that just soundslike.
You know how I say in the songslike yo don't pack no bags, we
just going to go because wegoing to pick up clothes
wherever we at.
Like that's what that soundslike to me.
I don't know Doing what thatsounds like to me.
DeLaw (45:52):
I don't know Doing that
on Valentine's Day it just
sounds like that guy will besetting himself up.
Well, here's what I'll say.
It's not a bad thing on herpart.
So for every dollar in the US,every US dollar, that's like 13
(46:16):
Australian, whatever they have.
Wes (46:19):
Australian.
DeLaw (46:20):
Austrian, sorry, not
Australian Austrian, whatever
their currency is right so forone it's like for every 7 cents.
One, it's like for every sevencents we have it's a dollar.
For the other, give or take.
If she is trying to finesse it,she's doing a horrible job.
(46:45):
You know what I'm saying?
She's doing a horrible job andI get the idea of, well, let's
go out.
And I get the idea of, well,it's going to cost too much for
this and this, but at least takesome underclothes.
I mean, take some underclothes.
Wes (47:00):
You know what?
DeLaw (47:01):
I'm saying Take a second
pair of jeans and another shirt.
It's a four-day trip.
Don't spill no shit on yourshit, Make sure you just take
enough under clothes.
But but no, it does sound likethe okey-doke, where it's like
oh well you know, I need someshoes, my feet hurt.
Wes (47:25):
But in her defense, shit
might be cheap over there.
Here's the thing.
Here's the thing.
They don't.
It's not even the like he said,and I'm pretty sure I don't
know if you have come acrossthis yet, this whole string of
sentences I'm about to say.
He said they're high earners,so it's not the budget thing, so
it ain't even the fact thatshit being cheap.
It could be one of those thingswhere he just wants her to stop
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spending money or they don'thave space in where they're
staying.
So it could be one of thosethings where it's like yo take
some of the stuff that you gotwith you, because every time we
go to places you keep buyingshit and then sending the shit
back home is crazy.
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And her head she's like well, Ican get ahead of that if I can
just buy shit.
You know what I mean.
It could literally be one ofthose situations because there's
no way on a four fucking daytrip, I'm just gonna be buying
drawers wherever I'm at.
I don't want to do that.
You know how crazy that sounds.
I ain't taking no luggage.
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Look, I ain't gonna lie Justbecause it's $60?
.
DeLaw (48:34):
I'm putting it to you
this way For you to go to Vienna
for one month will cost youjust as much as to go to
anywhere else for a week.
That's popular.
Think about that.
Wes (48:53):
So you leaving your clothes
at home too?
Is that what you're telling me?
DeLaw (48:56):
I don't know, I ain't
saying that, but but someone my
co-worker is looking for a tripto not Angola but to Aruba.
It's going to cost $2,100 justto go for like a couple days,
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like four or five days, ten daysobviously.
It's going to be about $4,000,some change and maybe a week
will be about $6,000, or not aweek, but like two weeks will be
like $6,000.
You're talking about a monthwould cost just as much as going
for two weeks to a group of.
She might be on to somethingbecause you might get some shit
(49:45):
for the low over there,something just to you know, get
a little book bag.
Wes (49:51):
I feel like he's getting
set up for the Valentine's Ogie
Dope.
DeLaw (49:54):
Yeah, no, he definitely
is.
Wes (49:56):
It doesn't matter if it's
for the low because they are
high earners, it doesn't matter.
DeLaw (50:01):
I mean Austria is not
really known for none, except
for what their music, theirculture, I mean their culture,
they're not known for too much.
Wes (50:07):
I'm almost certain if I go
and type in Austria high-end
shopping, there's some districtwhere it's Gucci and Louis
Vuitton on the strip.
DeLaw (50:18):
Vienna, austria, high-end
, just clothing.
Wes (50:22):
Here we go all right, I
can't go for damn right now
let's look at these prices here.
Nah, you just got to go to theIM boutiques.
DeLaw (50:40):
I'm looking at it now.
They don't have no prices uphere.
You know, other countries don'tput no prices up.
Wes (50:45):
No, we just need to know if
there's an area where you can
go and get your Dolce here.
It is right here.
I found it that fast.
DeLaw (50:55):
I got it.
Wes (50:58):
There's a Gucci there.
There's a Fendi right there.
Come on now.
Once was home to a large numberof imperial and royal court
purveyors, today the stores ofbig luxury.
Luxury brand line in the street.
The elegant Swiss watch andjewelry company Chopard has set
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up shop right at the start ofthe pedestrian zone.
DeLaw (51:22):
You got Doge Cabana,
tiffany Company, ferragamo,
michael Kors, burberry, borgari,gucci, fendi, dory or whatever
it is D-O-R Dory or whatever itis D-O-R-I-R or whatever it is
Dior, he's getting set up.
She's trying to finesse.
Wes (51:45):
He's getting set up.
He's getting set up, AlexanderMcQueen.
DeLaw (51:49):
He's getting set up
Because she was like oh, oh,
let's go with no luggage.
Wes (51:54):
I'm gonna need luggage to
bring this stuff back.
Well, I can just go into theGucci store get some bags, and
you know some carry-ons.
DeLaw (52:01):
But here's the other part
of it.
I'm not saying that she's rightor wrong.
Even though it might say 5,000Turkish or Austrian, whatever
they have, that's about $350.
(52:23):
It's about what they would havepaid back home anyway after the
currency exchange, or it mightbe less, it might be well, it's
only $1,000.
If it's only $1,000, you'relooking at $50?
Wes (52:41):
Listen.
So it's not even the fact thatthe money I'm.
Of course I'm throwing my ownnarrative out there because it's
the podcast.
Why wouldn't I throw my ownnarrative?
I'm looking at it from astandpoint of I'm looking at it
from a standpoint of since theyboth high earners, how we were
talking about yesterday shespends all.
I mean not yesterday, last lastepisode.
(53:03):
She spends all her money.
He has to bail her out.
She's looking for a way toactually get some extra shit in.
I'm throwing my own narrativein.
I'm spinning this, my story.
She's throwing in, she's tryingto figure out a way so she can
get some more stuff to make itseem like she actually needs it
by putting herself in asituation where she will need
the stuff.
Right, that's what I think isgoing on.
(53:29):
I couldn't allow it.
I'd be like yo, we ain't goingnowhere, don't worry about it.
I'll be like this I'll be likeyou know what I'll do.
This is how petty I'll be.
I'll be like you know what.
You don't have to bring anystuff.
I'll bring some stuff and youknow what I would do.
I would bring sensible stuff,but I'll pack some of her shit
too, and she's not going to know.
So, in the event that she pullsthis bullshit, uh, oh, I don't
(53:53):
have no shoes.
I got you shorty.
Here you go.
These shoes are comfortable.
You always said these arecomfortable.
I took them out the closet.
Oh, I ain't got no.
Here you go, shorty.
It's your shirts and this, this.
And that she won the awardsright then and there.
Because you want to know whyshe's been using me for my money
.
She can't take care of her damnself because all she wants to
(54:18):
do is spend.
It's like you said they're notsatisfied until they have five
dollars in their account oh, Iforgot to tell you.
DeLaw (54:29):
Let me show it.
Please don't show me that yougot five dollars in your account
.
Oh, I forgot to tell you.
Let me show it.
Wes (54:31):
Let me show it please don't
show me that you got $5 in your
account no, no, no.
DeLaw (54:36):
I got $5 in my account,
so you remember that liquor I
told you I could never find yeahit eluded me.
Wes (54:48):
I found it.
What is that?
What type?
DeLaw (54:53):
of this is Blattons, the
original single barrel bourbon
whiskey.
So each one of these is youknow.
Obviously the horse is on it,and each underneath the bottom
foot of this horse right herehas a letter.
It spells out Blanton's.
(55:14):
So I have T.
So Blanton's has a greatmarketing strategy.
Wes (55:21):
You put all of them
together, Captain Planet comes.
DeLaw (55:26):
I'm not sure I'm hoping,
but everybody is looking for
these letters.
So I got hoping, but everybodyis looking for these letters.
So I got T.
Blanton is spelledB-L-A-N-T-O-N apostrophe S.
Wes (55:43):
So people search, because
this is one of the hardest
bottles to find, unless you goon their website and even with
that, they say, oh great, wedon't know which one we want to
ship you Right, don't be askingfor a T.
DeLaw (56:01):
Right.
So this is one of the hardestbottles to find and up the
street from my house they haveit for $99.
They originally had it for $150.
God damn, and I said, man fuck,that they dropped it to $99
because I think they got toomany bottles of it and ain't
nobody buying it.
So I'm like shit nigga.
If I can get me another $99,I'm gonna buy me a second one
(56:25):
and that's gonna be the one Idrink, but this one is
untouchable.
It's like a trade.
Wes (56:32):
I didn't know people traded
alcohol from different regions
until when I was working at Iain't gonna say this guy's name,
I can't say the company myprevious place of employment.
He was telling me how he wasinto that type of shit and he
was closer to the the Richmondside of Virginia.
So sometimes he'll go to tradewith people in North Carolina or
(56:53):
you know, just with differentpeople in Virginia, like he was
on his blog not blog, but like a, like a Facebook group and it
was like yo, you got the blah,blah, blah, blah, blah.
I'll trade you a case If youbuy me a case of this, this and
this.
And I'm like, damn, that is agood way to get shit from the
local liquor stores at areasonable price, because
sometimes if you try to buy itonline, they don't even ship it
(57:14):
to you.
They be like nah, go to yourlocal liquor store to get it and
it's like well, shit, there'snot that flavor or that.
Whatever ain't sold here, Ican't get it.
DeLaw (57:24):
Now what I will say about
this bottle.
Wes (57:28):
I think that's illegal,
ain't it?
You can't transfer.
I'm thinking about it.
You can't transfer.
Oh shit, I didn't say his nameso this bottle was bottled on
September 30th 2024.
DeLaw (57:50):
This bottle is registered
number 58.
And this came from barrelnumber 1,640.
They give you all the detailsabout this right here, so I'm
going to get another one.
Wes (58:01):
Are you going to drink that
?
DeLaw (58:02):
one.
I ain't going to drink this one.
Wes (58:04):
No, I told you you can
drink the other one, I'm going
to get it.
DeLaw (58:07):
I'm going to see if it's
the same information on it.
If it's the same information onit, I'm going to be like, y get
it.
I'm going to see if it's thesame information on it.
If it's the same information,I'm going to be like, yeah,
bullshit, I'm going to drinkboth of them.
But if it's differentinformation, like, oh, this
barrel was made on this day.
I'm like yo, that's like thescotch I got when I went to
Madison and I got that scotch Adifferent barrel strength every
time.
Yeah, yeah, I finally got it.
(58:29):
Man, I've been looking for thisbottle for six years.
Wes (58:37):
Six years.
DeLaw (58:38):
Six years, six it might
have been longer than that.
I'm trying to think, when MattyJ sent me that picture, that he
had this and I was like.
Wes (58:47):
What is that?
DeLaw (58:48):
Is it good?
He's like, yeah, nah, that'ssome good shit.
I was like all right bet hadthis.
And I was like what is that?
Is it good?
He's like, yeah, nah, that'ssome good shit.
I was like alright bet.
But I'm going to say I've beenlooking for since, for sure,
covid.
So five years, for sure itmight have been.
I want to say six to sevenyears.
I've been looking for thatbottle to find it.
(59:09):
I've only been been looking forthat bottle to find it.
I only been aggressivelylooking for it for maybe four
years.
So the prior years I wasn'taggressively looking for it
until I had it at Fat Boys andthen I was like I need this
bottle.
So, yeah, I got it.
(59:31):
Congrats, man.
Yeah, man, look, I felt like,look, a weight of the world was
lifted off.
No, shut the fuck up.
But you know what?
In Austria they might have hadthis bottle for cheap as shit
nah hold up Austria.
Wes (59:49):
What are they?
They're beer.
DeLaw (59:54):
Austria is beer and music
.
I mean, think about it over inthose other countries.
A lot of it is really,especially in those countries,
it's beer because they have thestuff, the ferment you got
champagne and certain parts tooit's not spirit spirits, not
like Russia does vodka.
Wes (01:00:15):
Yeah, I just picked up some
Tito's yesterday, I got the
grapefruit flavor.
When you asked was I drinking,I was like I want to.
I just bought something.
However, I haven't had a mealyet today.
Look, look, look, I just boughtsomething, however.
DeLaw (01:00:31):
I haven't had a meal yet
today, but but but to me.
My wife came in the house andwas like are you going to wash
your dishes?
I was like, are you going towash yours?
She said, well, I only gotthree.
I said I only got five.
What's the problem?
Jeez y'all.
That's neither here nor there.
(01:00:52):
But yes, you know, othercountries are known for things
like Panama is known for theirrum, central America rum.
A lot of those Caribbean placesare known for their rum because
when you ferment fruits it'srum pretty much.
(01:01:16):
That's why a lot of rum hassuch fruity flavors to it.
It's like oh, it tastes sweet.
Yeah, because it's fermentedfrom fruit.
I can't tell you what scotch isfermented and all that else is
fermented from, but I know rumfor sure.
I used to buy a lot of rum.
You know, back in my po days Iused to get a lot of Bacardi
(01:01:39):
can't go wrong with that.
Wes (01:01:41):
You need the buzz.
You need the buzz yeah, thathangover was killer before we go
, what is your advice for thisyoung man?
DeLaw (01:02:03):
The biggest thing I can
only ever explain to someone
when it comes to stuff like thatis you got to stand on your
ground.
Wes (01:02:14):
I mean he said he ain't
coming.
He said, if they won't be likethat, he ain't going.
You got to stay on your ground.
DeLaw (01:02:20):
But then you also, you
know you got to stay on your
ground and you got to be willingto be like, okay, well, if
she's going to go by herself,okay, fine, bye, I might do a
lot of work.
Wes (01:02:29):
Valentine's Day.
DeLaw (01:02:30):
Yeah.
Wes (01:02:31):
If she's going by herself,
she ain't.
DeLaw (01:02:33):
You kind of got to be at
peace where it's like, oh okay,
well, I'm going to Bye, see you,okay, I'm leaving.
Okay, with no bags.
See you, peace.
And you know she might have agood time, she might not.
She might meet somebody overthere, she might not, you never
(01:02:58):
know but you gotta be okay withwhat comes from it.
Wes (01:03:00):
Y'all both higher earners,
so that mean really it just
means that she fuck around,she'll find out.
Yeah, but you know I like I, wewould.
We would uh say like yo.
Remember when you were sayinglike yo, so I gotta keep money
on the side?
Just because she fuck up hermoney, that shit gets tiresome.
And you damn sure don't want tobe like she's saying this
egregious shit for Valentine'sDay and you're like I know I'm
going to have to buy something.
I know she, I don't want to getset up like this.
(01:03:21):
That's so in your face.
DeLaw (01:03:24):
You're going to have to
put money aside to eat.
You're going to have to putmoney aside to do a lot of stuff
and you want to put money asideand do a lot of stuff and when
you and we'll get tired?
For a lot of guys, you know, aswe go through our relationships
and marriages, is is literallythe you buy we.
You know we.
Okay, we got to do this, we gotto do this and we have to think
(01:03:44):
about how much money you'regoing to have as you get into
the second week of not beingpaid.
You know what I'm saying.
So you get paid this week.
Then you got your non-paid week.
We got to worry about whatyou're doing, because now you
done spent all your money doingthis, this, this, this and this
and we done saved it.
Now we got to spend our moneyon you too.
And it's like you know I get it.
(01:04:05):
You know you see money, youwant to spend money.
You spend money before you getit.
But that can't be your MO andbe like oh, you knew that was me
when you married me.
No, you got to constantly workon yourself for stuff like that.
Right, I want to buy hood ratshit with my shit too.
But if you doing that, we bothcan't.
Wes (01:04:27):
No, we both can't.
We just have to limit.
We can't go full, we both can't, we just have to limit.
We can't go full hood.
Don't go full hood, right.
DeLaw (01:04:34):
Nah, nah, look, think
about it.
Me and my wife, we're goinginto a very healthy diet.
You know how much healthy costs?
A lot, a lot.
You know what I'm saying.
So it's like if I was like youknow what?
Fuck it, I'm just to just spendmy money on whatever I want and
then I'll figure all that othershit out later when it's time
(01:04:56):
to get some food, because we gotno food left in the house
because we ate all the healthyshit who won't get it if we both
done spent all our money.
You know what I'm saying.
It's just you can't.
It's messed up for guys notbeing able to spend their money
how they want to spend it,because they got to worry about
(01:05:17):
how their wife or significantother or however they address
them spends their money, becausethey're not thinking about you.
When they're spending money,they're thinking about them, but
when you spend your money, theywant you to think about them
and what has to go on in thehouse, and why do you spend your
money?
They want you to think aboutthem and what you have, what has
to go on in the house, and whydo you spend your money that way
, when we should be questioningthe same way, like I don't know
(01:05:37):
you watch the upshows.
Wes (01:05:39):
No, my wife watches it.
I don't really like you know.
Answer that one.
DeLaw (01:05:44):
So there's an episode in
the upshows and the new season
that just came out.
Benny got his investment backfrom his son.
He only gave him $500.
As soon as that money came in,guess what his wife said?
Oh, he gave you the money back.
Good, we can go do this.
We got to get this.
He's like this is my money thatI already invested, that I got
(01:06:05):
back.
That's the dilemma men have alot of times is, as soon as they
get it, they're trying to spendit.
Let's say my cousin's shop.
I put, let's say I was like youknow what.
Let's say I had a lot moremoney than what I had.
Hey, I'm going to put in$30,000 into your business.
(01:06:30):
He says, hey, here's your moneyback with interest.
It's $50,000.
Who that?
I told my wife.
Yeah, my cousin gave me mymoney back for the investment.
It went interest-free.
Oh, as soon as you say thenumber, oh, then we can do this
to the house.
We can do this.
Already have plans for itAlready spending your money.
(01:06:51):
It's like whoa, you didn't putthat $50K, that $30K in, you
didn't make that money to dothat.
So, no, this money is goingback to me, and if I choose to
do that with the money, thenthat's what.
I'll do with it, but it's notgoing to be.
No, you spend my money becausenow, oh, you got it and I spent
(01:07:13):
all mine, so now we can do thisbecause I couldn't save enough
money.
No, we're not doing that.
Why am I the only one savingmoney to do shit, when really we
should be saving money togetherto do shit, like we want to get
a deck or a new kitchen orwhatever.
We need to be saying, okay,this is how much money we're
going to put with the side to dothis.
It shouldn't be that I got todo it or I invested in something
(01:07:33):
.
They gave my money back.
Oh good, now we can do thatthing we've been talking about.
Hold on, that's not what thisis for.
This is going back to my bankaccount because I was 30 grand
short from putting theinvestment in.
You know so.
You know.
It just always matters my mindof how, how people will always.
(01:07:58):
They want to spend your money.
When you get it, you get that.
You get that advancement, youget that that little, that
little bump.
But as soon as you ask them forshit, they like oh wait, oh,
I'm broke.
Oh, that's for me, like I gotthat.
Like that's for broke.
Oh, that's for me.
Like I got that, like that'sfor me.
I invested that, that's for me.
Like I'm going to spend on whatI want to spend, like why you
want to spend mine, but youain't going to let me spend
(01:08:18):
yours, like no, that's not howit works.
All right, so long story short.
Wes (01:08:27):
But if you follow my advice
which is what is my advice
Don't go.
Don't even set yourself up,without a headache, even if it
is legit where she's probablynot going to buy anything.
That was just me beinghyperbolic, just for the sake of
it.
But she's not going to buyanything.
She actually wants to witnessthis.
(01:08:47):
We all know, as men andrelationships, your wife can be
annoying and you really want toput yourself in a situation
where you know she's probablygoing to be that way and it's
going to be Valentine's Day andthey give a fuck about that, so
it's going to be heightened.
Don't do it to yourself, king,definitely don't do it to
(01:09:10):
yourself On that note, or youwill be doing it to yourself,
king.
Definitely don't do it toyourself on that note, or you
will be doing it to yourself onthat note.
We thank everybody for tuningin.
We thank everybody for tuningin.
We'll see you next time.