New Year, Same Money Issues

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What really happens when you mix gambling winnings with personal spending? Balancing the love we have for our wives and our check books, nothing has changed on our end. Happy New Year!

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Wes (00:01):
I don't let her know when I get angry.
We talked about this before.
If I hit parlays, those parlaysis my money.
If I get some extra money,that's why I'm on the boat as
long as I handle what I'msupposed to handle.
Any extra money I come into isWesley's money and I hide my
purchases Like I'm not goingthrough that part.

(00:24):
Hey, everybody, welcome back toanother episode another year
before the West podcast.
As always, we got D-Law you got.
I just get a fish having acoffee fish you got D-Law, the

(00:44):
devil's son-in-law, in thebuilding.

DeLaw (00:47):
I'm not sick and shutting , like my wife was saying I am.
I'm probably just sick, but I'mnot going to be shutting.

Wes (00:54):
You got me Wes.
Whenever I'm sick, I'm dying.
Yep, that's how I be.
I be so miserable, I just wantto stay in the house.

DeLaw (01:07):
I don't want to fuck with nobody.
Hey look, we've been on a boat,we've been on a little boat
tour.
We walked through Times Square,we walked through everything,
central Park, and she's like wedon't have to do this.
And no, I ain't no sucker, wegonna do this or I will be
really hurt and try it.
I don't think I was going todie trying, but she was like you

(01:31):
said, you can do it.
Come on, let's go.
All right, come on, let's go.

Wes (01:35):
Usually when it comes to that, whenever I'm on a trip,
she don't want to get sick andI'd be mad because it's usually
a trip that I ain't even goingon in the first place or
someplace that she wanted to go.
So I'm stuck wherever she's atsick, whether it's a hotel room,
fucking cabin or you know whatI mean Boat, the room on the
boat and shit because she's sickand I don't want to do none of

(01:56):
the shit outside of the fuckingplace anyway.
So it's just like damn.
I wish I had my PlayStation.

DeLaw (02:01):
Well, you know what, I wish I had my PlayStation.
Well, you know what I think ifwe were going to be there one or
two more days, then I wouldn'thave pushed it on Friday.
I'd have just been like, let meget some NyQuil and let me
sleep this off a little bit so Ican be ready for tomorrow,
because we were only down there,we were only going to be there
two days anyway to go and lookat everything, which was

(02:23):
Thursday and Friday.
When we came back Saturday, Iwas like there's no way I can
get a day of rest to try andshake this off.
I gotta just go ahead and grindit.
So that's what I ended up doing.
So, but you know, we got to seeeverything.
You know, upgraded our time,share stuff.

(02:46):
So now we get to go on tripsmore.
Yeah, she's like, yeah, moremoney.

Wes (02:53):
Don't let her lie to you I feel like you getting sick,
subconsciously or in the back ofyour head.
You have come up with some newyear's resolutions for yourself,
and I can already probablyguess one don't get sick again

(03:14):
okay oh no.
I'm gonna keep drinking.
No, come on man, listen to thecapacity that you've been for
2024 probably not to thatcapacity.

DeLaw (03:30):
Yeah, I know, probably not to that capacity listen,
listen, listen.

Wes (03:39):
Yeah, if you ain't changing something in the new year, if
you don't think you need tochange something in the new year
, something's uh, if you don'tthink you need to change
something in the new year, um,you didn't have a, you didn't
learn anything last year, not tosay you should have resolutions
and shit, but you know you getto analyze you.
That's self reflection, like Idid some things wrong.
Huh, I just need more money.

(03:59):
Yeah, the world wants to know.
Yeah, the world wants to knowdid you find another job yet?

DeLaw (04:04):
No, I haven't.
I haven't found another job.
Still, you know, I'm waiting onthem to either promote me or
I'm waiting on them to findanother job, to like give me an
interview.
Yeah, yeah, yeah, you know howit goes.
You know the government.
They take their time.
It's like asking a kid to go dosomething.
They got an attitude with itand they slide their feet across
the floor to take their time.

Wes (04:25):
I don't know nothing about that.

DeLaw (04:27):
Yeah, I thought your little nephew would do that.
Ask your sister.

Wes (04:33):
Nah, so my nephew just ignores you.

DeLaw (04:38):
Like the government does.

Wes (04:39):
Yeah, they just ignore you.

DeLaw (04:43):
Yeah, the government do the same shit.
Yeah, shout out, just ignoreyou.
Yeah, the government do thesame shit, yeah.

Wes (04:47):
Shout out to the government New year, new president, new
government.
Shout out to them.

DeLaw (04:52):
We'll see how he fucks us this year.
He got the feds coming back towork.
You got the feds talking about.
You got the people that workfor the feds talking about.
So if he made me come back towork every day I'm out.
I'm like, well shit, I complainabout going.
I already go to work five daysa week.

Wes (05:12):
Y'all know what that is here's the thing if our traffic
in our area wasn't what it is, Iwould not mind going to work
five days a week.
The only reason why I mindgoing five days a week is
because of the traffic.
That is the only reason, onlyreason.

DeLaw (05:30):
Only reason you only get a lot of fed jobs in the
downtown area.
Yeah, so like closer to you andthen going into, like Arlington
Falls Church, you get someother ones.

Wes (05:43):
And traffic crazy too.
You only get the fed jobs in,you get some other ones and
traffic crazy too.

DeLaw (05:47):
You only get the fed jobs in the downtown area.
We got some in downtownBaltimore City, yeah, but it
ain't a bunch of them where it'slike.
You know you go down todowntown DC and you could walk
any block and you come across abuilding.
I mean, they got bad stuff allover the state of Maryland.

(06:11):
You just gotta find it.

Wes (06:13):
I'm not moving to those places.
You think you'd be good atEastern Shore for a fair job?
Look Allegheny Garrett.
I applied to be Wacomico for afair job.

DeLaw (06:27):
Sheesh, look Allegheny, look Garrett.
I applied to be Wacomico, Iapplied to be Eastern Shore
liaison for them.
And I was like, and I wastalking to my old supervisor.
He was like, well, they mightmake you go over there every day
.
And I said, well, if they makeme go every day, I want there

(06:52):
every day.
And I said, well, they make mego every day, I want them to
assign me a vehicle, because myhome location to my home
location is down the street frommy house.
Yeah, so that would mean eitherI'm coming there to work or you
need to give me a vehicle to goback and forth, because I'm not
about to drive across thebridge to do whatever then a lot
of times with the liaison it'snot necessarily going down,
unless there's something thatyou got to do down there.
We'll see.
Yeah, yeah, yeah, maybe anotherjob will come through and I

(07:16):
make $100,000.

Wes (07:21):
Yeah, more money is welcomed, I I believe, for
everybody this year.
But you know, like at any andevery fucking beginning of the
new year you kind of like youknow there's parts of you that's
hopeful, there's parts of youlike I ain't getting my hopes up
and just by just by hearingpeople talking, what they kind

(07:45):
of going through right now, I'mlike it's the same bullshit from
last year, like I was like it'sthis girl I ain't gonna say
where I know her from oranything like that not a girl,
but it's this guy.

DeLaw (08:01):
He wow now I'm thinking about somebody else.

Wes (08:08):
You missed the whole transgender there.
Like I did, I didn't say Iain't mean like that, but, long
story short, he got a goodpaying job and he has, uh, his
mom has been rubbing him thewrong way as far as, like yo,
since you got a good paying job,I need money for this, this and
this.

(08:28):
And sound like a woman.
Wow, he like 30, in his 30s andhis mom's like 60.
Some, Long story short, she indebt, got an SUV that she don't
drive and she can't afford anSUV.
She paid like $1,000 on thatbitch a month but she works from

(08:49):
home and only got like 20Kmiles on it.
Let's just say 25,000 miles onit.
She's had it for three years.
He told her to sell it.
She don't want to sell it,Going back and forth with all
the Back and forth of sell it,don't sell it.
I'll give you some moneytowards it.
This, this and that and blah,blah, blah.
Long, slow, short.

(09:09):
She just acted ungrateful andI'm sitting there like, yeah,
I'm going to be a lot of that.
Sound like a woman.

DeLaw (09:17):
I'm going to be a lot of that D-Law said that, d-law said
that, and I say hear me out,and I and I say this with love
to all women when they, whenthey have a male in their life
husband, son, whatever and itturns into like, oh y'all who
asked my d-mind?
You know, let me get you knowthe mind doing this.
I want to do this like it's,it's almost like, especially

(09:39):
when you're married.
Married is different, y'allliving together I mean, but you
know they spend their moneybefore they get it.
Then when you get your moneyyou get an increase.
They're already spending yourmoney, you know it's like I
can't say that I don't know thatfeeling I can't say that good
like let's say, I get apromotion at my job and I start
making 13 000, 14 000 more, eventhough I'm like, all right,

(10:03):
cool.
It means now I can budget thisa little bit differently.
I'm budgeting in my head beforeI get it oh okay, well, cool.
That means we can do this andshe's done that before.
We can do what and do what, andnow you can do this and you can
pay for this.

Wes (10:22):
Now describe before, because my shit is constant.
Describe before yeah, can payfor this and he can now now.
Now describe before, because myshit is constant.
Describe before yeah, like, isit?
Like, oh, okay, it's happenedlike a handful of times.
My shit is whenever it justrandomly pops up and if you feel
like stupid shit, like can Iget 15 dollars for the movie?

DeLaw (10:38):
I'm like what?

Wes (10:39):
it's any increase oh, any increase if you get an increase
in fun.
No, I should know what you'resupposed to do.
I'm talking about the everydayshit.
The everyday shit Like I spentall my money.
I shouldn't have did that.
I want to go get some cereal,but I like this cereal from
Target.
Can I get $10?
And it's like yo, it's $10.

(11:00):
You ain't got $10?
And that's what would be sopetty, because it's like it's
$10.

DeLaw (11:05):
Oh no, that's happened too.
I mean, it's not a oh well, Idon't have no money.
It's oh well, you got it.
You just got the increase.
You can let me get this, or youcan go get it.
I'm like what?

Wes (11:17):
You'll sound worse than mine.

DeLaw (11:23):
You'll sound worse than mine and a lot of times, a lot
of times, what it ends up beingis it's something I don't even
use and I'm like what, oh, doyou mind give me somebody to get
some milk.
I don't drink milk oh well, Ineed some olive oil, or I might

(11:44):
go to the store and get some.
I'm like what come on?

Wes (11:49):
you know it was.
That's never going to change.
That ain't even like a 2024thing.
Leave back there that's.
Have you ever had that feeling?
But as I get older, it's likeyo as a man there's going to be
things you're not going to runaway from.
That's something that you can'trun away from, no matter how,

(12:10):
how.
What is the word?
How one-sided that situationslike that is, or how unfair it
is.
Like that's just the way it go.
So once you accept that shitlike yo something random going
to happen just make sure you gotthe fucking money for something
random and don't get too mad,because it's gonna happen
tomorrow, it's gonna happenagain and it's gonna happen

(12:31):
again I don't even believe that.
Nah, I believe it, me having tokeep money on the side because
you don't know how to manageyour money nah, yo, that's the
part of us man, and I'm not thisis not me capable of like you
know that super pro, whatever.
It's just one of those thingswhere it's like yo, it happens
to all the guys I know that'sburied or got, or got some type

(12:51):
of girl or whatever.
Like it happens.
So it's just kind of like yo,like it is what it is.
We talk bad about them behindtheir back to our other friends.
We keep it moving, cause it'skind of like yo, we can't afford
to come up short.
But they can afford to come upshort.
That's just what it is.

(13:12):
It's always been that way.
The world is built around itbeing that way.
Now, if it wasn't built aroundbeing that way, then, yeah, you
know, we can do that thingcalled holding them accountable,
but the only thing we could sayis like next time, but I know
I'm sorry, I'll do it next timeand I'm gonna do all that.
No, I do.
You ain't about that, yo, youain't about to give.

(13:34):
You ain't about the.
You ain't about to keeprequesting without me saying
something like come on now,because I'm like so where's your
money?

DeLaw (13:40):
oh well, I had to do this .
I had to do this.
I'm like so where's your money?
Oh well, I had to do this, Ihad to do this.
So why'd you have to do allthat?
Oh, because so you couldn'ttake care of your own finances.
Because what, oh, you ain'tgoing to?

Wes (13:53):
yeah well, what make it so bad for my wife?
Like she'll, I'll give her thethird degree and I'm like yo.
It gets to the point where shedon't want to ask, because she
was like I already know you takecare so much and I'm like so
why can't you just like, not dothis?

DeLaw (14:17):
can't give me an answer so I mean because I, even,
because, even with my wife beinglike, oh well, can you, you
know, can you do this, this andthis?
I'm like why do I need to dothat?
Oh well, because I mean, well,you know, you got it.

(14:38):
You just got that increase, soI figured, since I've been
paying it, you can take it thistime like what it's like
punishing you for doing good isthat a reward?

Wes (14:45):
figured, since I've been paying it, you can take it this
time.
What it's like punishing youfor doing good Is that a reward?

DeLaw (14:51):
Yeah.

Wes (14:55):
Yo, let me fill this money for a little bit before you.
You know what I mean.
Yeah, nah, the reason why Idon't listen and this stays
between me and you maybe my wifeahead is, maybe she don't.
I don't let her know when I getangry.
We talked about this before.
If I hit parlays, those parlaysis my money, if I get some
extra money.
That's why my devote as long asI handle what I'm supposed to

(15:16):
handle, any extra money I comeinto is Wesley's money and I
hide my purchases, like I'm notgoing through that part where
it's just like well, because Iwent through that shit one time,
one time, and I think we waslike married two, maybe two
years or three years in, and Ibought something for one of my

(15:40):
cars and she was like, uh, shewas like, well, you buying stuff
for cars.
And she was like she was like,well, you buying stuff for cars
and stuff like that and this,this and that.
I just thought I was like, okay, that's how we're going, that's
the problem.
You just thought I'm like okay.
And then at one point in timethis is why probably about to

(16:01):
cause some controversy here that50-50 shit.
Okay, let me put it this wayprobably about to cause some
controversy here that 50-50 shit.
Okay, let me put it this waythe woman that say they don't
mind 50-50 shit, that is a lottoo.
At one point in time, justbecause she didn't know how

(16:21):
money worked, she thoughtbecause I remember I had the
house before she moved in andshit, she thought that I was
getting thousands of dollarsback on my tax return for the
house and I wasn't giving herand that it was unfair that I
wasn't giving her any becauseshe pays half of the mortgage.

(16:42):
She pays half of the mortgage.
Now you, as a math tutor and amathematician, math major, you
know that's wrong.
I'm not getting thousands ofdollars back a year because I
have a house.
I might get a thousand dollarsback because I have a house.
You're lucky if you get thatmuch.
I said I may and what.

(17:04):
I explained it to her.
She could.
She it's like she didn'tbelieve me so I had to break out
fucking stuff and I'm like hereit is.
And she was like so you don'tgive.
I'm like so you've beensecretly kind of feeling a
certain type of way because Ithink I'm getting thousands of
dollars back.
I'm like, nah, I wish you thinkpeople would be house poor if

(17:27):
that was the case.
Yeah, I don't file a joint withyou.
Hell, nah, I don't do nothingjointly financially.
See, we have joint.
Yo, we tried that, we triedthat right and I tried to do the
bank black thing.
I'm like yo, we're going to doindustrial bank, we're going to
have our stuff in there, stuffthat you need to take care of
for the house.
We want to use this and for thelife of me, my wife, she just
don't.

(17:47):
How could I put it?

DeLaw (17:52):
Trying to say how not to use the money.

Wes (17:54):
That's what it sounds like.
Yes, so it turned into asituation of that.
It turned into a situationwhere she wasn't putting money
in and then she'd be like, oh,it's some money in the account,
Can I use this to go get this,this and this?
And I'm like these are forbills, this ain't like for
target runs and stuff like that.
And then she was just nowgetting used to using a bank.

(18:16):
She would get shit put on alittle prepaid card.
I'm like yo, you're too old forthis.
Why are you banking like this?
I'm dead serious.
It came a long way.

DeLaw (18:28):
It came a long way Prepaid cars, but that's back
when you used to work at likeExpress.

Wes (18:39):
That's what she was.
That's what she was used to.
I've been used to banking whenChevy Chase was a bank, not
Chevy Chase.
Yeah, chevy Chase was a bank.
That was a long time ago.

DeLaw (18:52):
Long time ago.

Wes (18:52):
Yeah, yeah, yeah, neither here or there, so it was just
like stuff like that is thereason why we don't share
finances.
I had to close the account andshit.

DeLaw (19:06):
See, me and my wife have our own bank accounts, but we
have a joint account that we douse, yeah, and it's strictly for
our car notes and saving moneyfor trips.
So we both put money over thereand for the car notes.
So even if you're like, oh, Iput money over there.
And for the Cardinals, so evenif you're like, oh, I see money

(19:27):
over there, let me use it, ohshit, there's a Cardinal that
comes out of this.
I wonder how much is you know?
Like it's always that, and thenwe're not putting that much
money in it.
That is like, wow, there's 10grand.
You might look over there.
It might be $30.
You know what I'm saying?
Like, right now, I think theremight be $150 and zero on the

(19:49):
savings, because we used it whenwe went on the trip, because
that's what it was for.
But she, I tell you, she saidyou spend your money how you
want to spend it.
Just give me the half.
I need to pay whatever,whatever you do with it after
that.
That's that.
But don't ask me for any money,because I make considerably
less than you.

Wes (20:10):
Listen, I do.
You want better.
After me and my wife had thatconversation about the house and
shit.
She thought I was just gettingthousands of dollars back in
taxes.
I said, yo, if it makes youfeel any better, I'll take over
the whole mortgage.
But you got to take care ofeverything else and I was like

(20:34):
that's going to leave some moneyin your pocket.
And it left money in her pocketfor a little bit, for a little
while, and then stuff juststarted catching up to her and
adding up.
And now I'm back to square onewhere I'm paying a whole
mortgage plus some other dealsthat we share, and I'm just like
yo, like it's just like theyhad that conversation back then,

(20:54):
just for me to actually startpaying more.
I'm just like how the fuck didthis happen you know what I mean
.
Like how did I get?
That's why she, that's one ofthe reasons why I was like she
asked me for like money here andthere and shit not that I have
a problem with it.
But it's just one of thosethings where it's like, like I
was saying to you earlier likeyo, shit like this is gonna

(21:15):
happen.
In order to not get mad, youjust gotta accept, like yo, you
are supposed to be the provider,quote, unquote.
That doesn't mean you provideall, but you're a good provider
to the household and that shitcomes with the territory.
That's what stops me frompunching a hole into a center
block wall.

DeLaw (21:31):
However, that's where we are right now is.
She doesn't ask me for anymoney right now because she
knows that I make less.
I said I get it.
I don't spend a lot of money,but if you're making this, this,
this and this right and I don'tknow what other bills she has
going on.

Wes (21:52):
I don't.
You know, at one point in timeI had to figure that out for my,
for my wife, cause I rememberone time she was, I was on
something, I was about to sendher something.
I was on something and she waslike, why do you have all that
money in your account?
And I'm like, what do you meanall that money?
You don't have no money in youraccount and that shit scared
the shit out of me.
I'm just like, oh shit.

(22:13):
So I gotta be super duperresponsible for both of us.
Not that she's not responsible,but sometimes she'll be like
I'm gonna go get a bag, I'mgonna go get some clothes.
I'm like you don't need thatright now one, we ain't got the
space for you to keep.
You know what I mean.

DeLaw (22:32):
Women, just they have a different outlook on life than
we do, and I was having thisconversation with my boy.
I was like, well, I said Idon't know what women's thing is
, but it seems like every timethey get paid, if they don't
have zero dollars in theiraccount, they didn't do
something right.

Wes (22:54):
What the fuck.

DeLaw (23:00):
Oh shit, they get paid.
And if they don't have zero orcan tell somebody oh, I got five
dollars in my account, it'slike they didn't do something
right.
Don't have zero, or can tellsomebody oh, I got five dollars
in my account, it's like theydidn't do something right.
It's like as soon as they savemoney, you know like oh my gosh,
I still have three hundreddollars in my account before
they got it, burn it.

Wes (23:20):
Nah, I'll put it to you this way what I think that is
not that some of them want to beirresponsible with the money.
I think some of them, some havenot been taught, like yo, these
are the things that you can dowith your money and these are
the things that you need to bedoing with your money, like as,

(23:43):
as guys, we're probably taughtthat with our uncles like here
and there, not necessarily likethey sitting us down, but we see
certain things like, oh, I willSoand-so put this.
He told me put this money awayand did this, this and this, and
that's how you're going to getthis.
You see that from your dad,your mom might even tell you to
be doing certain things, butwith their daughters it's just
more or less like they eitherlearn that or they learn to be
like yo, find you a good husband, find you a man to make some

(24:06):
money.
So they think that's all theyhave to do.
It's finding that guy to makesome money that's going to take
care of them.

DeLaw (24:13):
Because they've been taking care of their whole life.

Wes (24:15):
Yeah, most definitely, Most definitely.

DeLaw (24:17):
So it's like I get that being responsible with money
isn't the first thing on theiragenda.
For them, being responsible fortheir money is as long as the
bills are paid, and then theyburn the rest of it they're good
.

Wes (24:29):
No, no, no, that's some, that is some, a lot of them.
Not, it is, it is, it is a lotof them, there's a lot of them.
But um, yeah, man, I honestlythink it's just that, because
every time I like we got my wifelike on, uh, the right path to
that shit is when I broke downlike yo, you're living, like
you're like, we're like we'remillionaires, I was like yo, we

(24:52):
got stuff that needs to be takencare of 15 years from now and
you can't just be throwing moneyaway because, oh, it's not
throwing it away, but likegetting new shirts, because you
want to get new shirts orgetting new.
You know what I mean.
Like you don't even go nowhere.
You know what I mean.
Like you don't even go nowhere.
You know what I mean.

DeLaw (25:09):
So it's just kind of like that's how I look at it.

Wes (25:12):
You don't even go nowhere like that.

DeLaw (25:13):
So it's like we get Amazon packages almost every day
and you're talking about youain't got no money.
I said look at how much moneyyou spent on Amazon.
I'm getting stuff for the house.
What am I going to do with thedress that's the shield?
What am I going to do with somehigh heels?
What am I going to do with yoursneakers that don't fit me?

Wes (25:32):
listen, true, you shouldn't be wearing them.

DeLaw (25:36):
Listen, you're right like the last thing I got on Amazon
besides her Christmas gifts.
I got Leo a new motor for hiswater fountain because the other
one wasn't working, so itstarted going out and I was like
, alright, gotta get it $10.

(25:57):
That's all I spent on Amazon.

Wes (26:00):
Yeah, the last thing I got was two Blu-ray DVDs Looper and
After Earth.

DeLaw (26:07):
Oh yeah, after Earth, I like After Earth, it's funny.
After Earth, oh yeah, I likeAfter Earth, it's funny.
After Earth isn't one of those.
You can watch it the first timeand understand it.
You got to watch it like two orthree times.

Wes (26:17):
And I basically only watched it a half a time and I
got it for like $5.
So my whole thing is I've beencollecting used Blu-rays and
I've been putting them on thecomputer and shit.
That's a nerdy project I'mdoing right now.
Nerd Finances are gettingbetter managed over here,

(26:42):
hopefully, the way this economygoing and tariffs and shit.

DeLaw (26:47):
Oh yeah, it's going to be a lot of tariffs.

Wes (26:51):
Then I ain't showing my feet out here for money.
So, yo, speaking of showingyour feet for money, I do
showing you.
Speaking of showing your feetfor money.
Uh, one of something that Iheard or read is another
indicator of like yo, yo, uh, Idon't know what's going on.

(27:16):
I don't know what's going on.
Um, so I'm reading somethingand this girl says I am 21.
Currently I am single.

(27:37):
I've always wanted a boyfriend,slash husband that would like to
be dominated and sometimes liketo be submissive.
My ex was very masculine and wepretty much have a normal
relationship and I always wantedto control him, but in a good
way.
And then basically, shebasically saying like yo, she
just wants a guy that shewouldn't be able to pay.
And when I read that I was likeyo first of all, I was like yo

(28:08):
first of all.
I was like what?
Like how do you go from?
Like my last boyfriend it wascool, very masculine and shit
like that, but he wouldn't letme do no shit like that to him.
What does that sound like toyou?

DeLaw (28:29):
ugh, what does that sound ?

Wes (28:32):
like to you.
It sounds like more fuckery forthe year right.

DeLaw (28:35):
Yeah.

Wes (28:37):
It sounds like it's.
It sounds like in somewhere ina deep, deep somewhere in a very
, very current future, therewill be a discussion had between
somebody and it makes it tosocial media and it goes viral
where a woman is telling a manwell, if it's not a man doing it
, you shouldn't feel gay.
I'm doing it to you, it's awoman, so you shouldn't feel gay

(29:01):
or you should be okay with it.
I feel like that's coming.
I feel like that's coming.
Now, mind you, for the men thatlike that stuff and that are
straight hey, you know, that'swhat y'all do.
Yeah, I stay out of that.
That's just something thatdon't interest me.

(29:23):
But the fact that this womansaid, nah, she just want her man
to be all the way submissive toher.
I'm like, alright, that's herman to be all the way submissive
to her.
I'm like, alright, that'sthat's.
I think it's the submissivepart, because it's kind of like
yo, like what?
Now he getting on all fours orhe got his legs behind his head
and shit.
I was just like I thought womenliked masculine men, that's all

(29:46):
.
That's all I'm saying.
I just thought women and shewas with a masculine man.
I just that shit threw me for aloop.
I'm like alright, but I knowit's different flavors of women.
It's like it's different typesof guys and stuff.
Women, if you let them tryanything.
They would.
Man, like you know, sheprobably was like, well, fucking

(30:09):
Sasha, letting her boyfriendletting him letting her bag him.
Like I want to try that shittoo.

DeLaw (30:16):
I had a chick who said she wanted to put her finger in
my ass.
I said hold up, bitch.
No, no, no, I ain't never hadthat.

Wes (30:24):
I ain't never had that.
My whole thing is with that,like your sexual, you know,
preferences and shit like that,like what you'd like to do, it
is what it is right.
But I ain't never, none of that.
Shit never interests me.

(30:44):
And even if a guy was like,yeah, let my girl do that shit,
I ain't gonna think he gay, Ijust think you like booty play,
which is, you know, like bootyplay, but shit like that don't
interest me.
Just like if a woman was tosuck my toes, that shit would
not interest me.
Just certain things that don'tinterest me.

(31:09):
Certain things interest otherpeople.
I uh, I read that shit.
I'm just like, alright, here wego again.
And I just recently seen a um,a little ad saying, um, cause
you know the uh, the olympicshit and the goby stuff.
I seen an ad, pretty much athing from California, some
department of California, stateof California, wagobe stuff.
I've seen an ad, pretty much athing from California, some

(31:30):
department of California, stateof California, saying we don't
want Wagobe, like fat people,saying that we love the skin
that we're in and I'm just likedog.
There is a.
All this social stuff is gettingweird and with that particular

(31:53):
subject, personally my opinion.
I feel like it's a fine linebetween like yo, loving yourself
or loving being fat, becausethat makes that makes sense to
you, right?
Yeah, fat is unhealthy.
Fat will kill you.
You should always love yourselfif, even if you are fat, love
yourself enough to be like.
You know what this is unhealthy.
You don't love yourself enoughto be like, I'm gonna be lazy

(32:16):
and stay this way.
That's just like saying I, ifI'm a, I ain't gonna use that.
Yeah, if I'm an alcoholic orwhatever, then I love alcoholism
, I'm going to continue to drinkand shit like that.
And you got cirrhosis of theliver and shit Like nah, love
yourself well enough to be likeyou know what, let me get my
shit in order.
Let me get my body in order.

(32:37):
It's weird.
It's weird.
Here we go.
A part of me wished that thosedrones that was flying over New
Jersey and shit was actuallyreal aliens and get a change of
how things are going here,because eventually this might be

(32:59):
the most expensive four yearswe ever had.
This might be the weirdestsocial geo-economical, be the
weirdest social geo-economicalsituation we had in the longest,
because so many people arequote-unquote right about what
they're saying and everybodycan't be right.

(33:23):
You know what I mean.

DeLaw (33:25):
Well, everybody can be right, no, they can't.

Wes (33:29):
No, if there is a no, if there is not even an acceptable
truth, if there is a, in yourface, common truth of certain
things that have been proven,there are facts, just because
you feel that, let's just say,socially, a man should be acting

(33:50):
a certain way, a woman shouldbe acting a certain way, or you
know, vice versa, this factorwas wrong.
Like, fuck your feelings.
You know what I?

DeLaw (34:01):
mean, yeah, you already know.
First off, we already knew themen women fuckers was going to
happen.
I don't even know why the whatthe men women fuckers was going
to happen.
I don't even know why the whatthe men women fuckers was going
to happen.

Wes (34:13):
Yeah, I mean, that's what I'm going to continue.

DeLaw (34:16):
Look, because everybody coming in like you know what I
ain't dealing with the bullshitfrom last year.
So now everybody weighs intheir standard.
Now a nigga's going to have tobe 6'5".

Wes (34:27):
Well, they're standing out.
Niggas gonna have to be 6'5".
I thought you were saying now awoman gonna be like I'm doing
the fucking, not just you.

DeLaw (34:33):
Nah, they gonna have requirements.
Nah, you gonna have your womenwho they wanna be dominant.
I never understood a woman whosays I want a man who's dominant
, or masculine and dominant,that I can be submissive to, but
then they have a list ofrequirements for them to be
submissive.
So not only do you have to bewhat she wants you to be those,

(34:57):
but then there's requirements toit.
Like all those women who saythey cook, their husband treats
them good, they cook, they clean, they fuck, they shut up.
If you ask every last one ofthem, how much does your husband
make?
Oh, my husband, he's well off.
He makes blah, blah, blah, sohe takes care of everything.
Of course he does.
That's why you cook, you clean,you fuck, you shut up.

(35:17):
What about your normal womenwho ain't got the husband that
do that and they gotta go towork?
They might complain aboutcooking, cleaning, fucking, and
you sure as hell ain't shuttingup.

Wes (35:30):
Listen, I think that's a.
Honestly, I'm starting to thinkthat's a small minority of
women.
It's just that they speak theloudest when it comes to.
Let me get to my point.
So, when it comes to like theirrequirements, like I was saying
with the other thing, there's athin line between like a

(35:52):
requirement and what yourpurpose is.
In a man, the requirements tendto be what is the word?
Tangible, physical stuff likethat?
Right?

DeLaw (36:08):
Yeah.

Wes (36:09):
And when it's that you're paying for the submissiveness.
Those are hoes to me.
Like it's just like yo, I gottahave, you gotta have these
things.
Now, when they start sayingshit like yo, I want him to be
respectable, I want to see goodqualities in.
When is that type of thing?
When you get what I'm saying.
When it's that type of thing,you get what I'm saying.
When it's that type of thing,when you're looking for, when
women are looking for thosetypes of things in men, they

(36:33):
generally are submissive becauseno matter what that man is
making them happy, whetherthey're going to work or not and
I see that in some of myfriends, I see that in my
relationship and stuff like that.

DeLaw (36:44):
I see that.

Wes (36:46):
You kind of get what I'm saying.
So those are a certain type ofwoman that it has to be this,
this, this, this and this.
You could have all those thingsand they will still be like.
I don't want to, because itnever fulfilled them to begin
with.

DeLaw (36:58):
Right, well, I'm not talking about those women.
You kind of get what I'm saying,though I could be saying I
wouldn't talk about those oneswho don't always say I was
talking about the ones who don'tsay, oh, I'll be submissive to
my husband.
And a lot of you know, I'veheard from my wife, I've heard
from other women oh, I'll besubmissive to my husband, but

(37:18):
the but is but.
Then I begin to take care ofthese things that make me feel
secure enough that I can besubmissive, or that you be more
direct, or whatever.
But it's like, in that sameinstance, then everything you do
turns into toxic masculinity.
I'm like, in my opinion, ifyou're submissiveness, or you're

(37:45):
, if you're going to do this andthis requires me to go above
and beyond so that you can feelconfident enough that I'll take
care of everything thenobviously we don't miss the
whole point of getting marriedor being with each other,
because that's not therequirement that it was to be
with each other.
It's I'm going to protect andprovide, you're going to be by

(38:07):
my side and we're going to takecare of each other one step at a
time.
So it shouldn't be negotiation.
It shouldn't be based on if Ido this, it's like I'll be here
every night.
If you do this, I'll do this.
If you do this, yeah, it'stransactional at that point.

Wes (38:25):
That's why I say that's kind of like some I'm the trick
in you to hold type shit.
I don't want my relationship tofeel transactional, whereas
it's like I'm only as good aswhat I can do and it's kind of
like if I treated you like thatyou're only as good as what you
can do, as good as what you cando.
When your beauty runs out, yougotta go.
When you start getting fat, yougotta go, and that wouldn't be

(38:47):
nice.
You know what I mean.

DeLaw (38:48):
I started finding out that like because even like
outfits on I didn't like.
You know, only time I don'thave to do like this, this and
this to get sex with my wife iswhen she wants to do it.
When she want to do it, shejust drop her drawers and be
like come on.
I would say, well, look, I'llfuck the bus if you make me this
sandwich and make me this drinktoo.

Wes (39:07):
We ain't transacting, but we can do that, though we just
can't do it in that way.
So it's just kind of like oh,you want something?
I didn't get my dick sucked.
This month.
It's going to be a no today,susan, you can't get these
pillows from Target.
No, I didn't get my dickssucked.

DeLaw (39:25):
But you can put a pick on them.
No, no most definitely, and I'mnot saying that my wife isn't
submissive or that I'm justsaying that a lot of times when
you get to these relationships,don't be submissive about
certain things and a lot oftimes.
I don't even think womenunderstand what submissiveness
is.
A lot of them think they'rethinking of like a servant.

Wes (39:41):
Yeah, and me and my homeboy talk about that a lot too.
I'm like yo.
A real man don't want a servant, a real man just wants to.
Submissiveness means you'relistening, you're letting me
lead.
It's not saying that you don'thave a voice.
I need your voice, like we aredoing this shit together.

(40:02):
You know what I mean.

DeLaw (40:03):
This means, in a nutshell a help me, someone to help me.
That's all it really means In avery broad definition, that
somebody who's listeningunderstands.
It's not me saying this is whatyou're going to do Now, go over
there and make that sandwichand get naked in the bed.
That's not being submissive.

Wes (40:22):
I mean, here's the thing, they like that too.
Yeah, you got to figure outwhen that mood is to talk like
that, and they'll happily oblige.

DeLaw (40:32):
You don't want them to try to figure all that out.
I look, I look.
If I done helped you put a goodtable, I done put air in your
tires.
If I'm not, you put together atable, I done put air in your
tires.
If I'm not sick this.
If I asked you to let me get alittle bit of that cookie, I
shouldn't even hear a no.

(40:52):
But the fact of the matter is,you might hear a no, like oh
well, that's stuff you should bedoing.
So then it turns into that likewell, you shouldn't do that
anyway, I should have had to askyou to do it.
Well, how am I supposed to know?
Well, you should be doing so.
Then it then it turns into thatlike well, you shouldn't do
that anyway, I shouldn't have toask you to do it.
Well, how am I supposed to know?
Well, you should be checking mycar.
No, that's your car.
So it's like come like.

Wes (41:11):
So here's a here's a, here's a, here's a.
One of the things I talked to,uh, let you, you know, because
you, uh you jogging my memoryabout something, like I spoke to
my homeboy about thisparticular thing and my wife
about our, you know, ourcommunity, black community, and
shit like that.
I'm like, um, sometimes forcertain women in our community

(41:31):
to speak like that, I'm like youforgot how you, you forgot your
history.
Black men, black men weren'thigh earners ever.
So for you to be expecting acertain I'm not saying that we
can't go out there and do it, alot of us are doing it but if

(41:55):
you are expecting the masses tobe a certain type of way, you
already pricing yourself out ofus.
To begin with.
Number one, number two, theargument of like, well, you
won't pay the bills.
Like our grandfather, like yourgrand great grandfather, paid
the bills, and stuff like that.
I was like, truth be told,great great grandmother had to
work and do stuff too.

(42:16):
I don't know what his new, Idon't know what his new mindset
came from, where it was.
Just like our great, greatgrandmmas were just sitting
pretty, sitting on a pile ofmoney and this, this, and that.
It was like, nah, great-greatgranddad had to either go in a
factory and do some other stuffand it wasn't enough money If
grandma didn't work orgreat-great grandma didn't work.

(42:36):
She didn't work, they didn'thave that much money.
If she went out to work, theystill didn't have that much
money If she went out to work,they still didn't have that much
money.

DeLaw (42:43):
Well, great-great-grandma , I'm not going to say they did
work, but they could read andwrite and the husbands normally
couldn't.

Wes (42:50):
Yeah, that's true.

DeLaw (42:51):
So all they could do was go out and work, work, work,
work, work.
They'll come home and a lot oftimes they probably couldn't
even tell the numbers.
That's on the check.
They give it to the wife.
The wife will make sure all thebills are paid and they can do
whatever they need to do.
That's how it worked.
So they still had their role inthe house.
That's why they cooked, that'swhy they cleaned.

Wes (43:12):
Exactly who the hell wants to be doing backbreaking work.

DeLaw (43:17):
And then come home.
So, babe, where's dinner?
Oh well, I wasn't hungry.
Like you got two hands and twofeet.
Like I just went to work andbrought all this home and you
tell me I need to cook too, likeyeah yeah, I just never.

Wes (43:33):
I never understood the logic when they say that I was
like and it's not even just ourcommunity.
I'm like that's the waycapitalism works.
In the United States they'regoing to be a very, very, very
small few that can afford fortheir partner to stay at home.
The rest of us we have to.
Either both parties have to beworking or one partner has to be

(43:57):
OK with just getting what theycan get if they don't want to
work.
That's the examples all around.
The things that women aretalking about is people that's
making well into the six figures.
You know what I mean.
And that's not.
Is it?
Six figures, five figures?
And most of those chicks cheatin the world.
That too.

(44:18):
So it's kind of like he takescare of everything.

DeLaw (44:21):
He takes care of his.
He takes me on his trip and my.
I'm not saying that the guysain't cheating on him, because
they probably, like I alreadyknow, she's just with me for the
money.

Wes (44:28):
So my whole, my whole thing is everybody need to be more uh
uh, understand the nuance ofwhat we are requesting and
asking and thinking we're goingto receive.
It's just kind of like like yo,like I was, like I was talking.
I was talking to one of mycoworkers.
I was like what seemed to workfor me and my wife is more or
less by, we don't go 50, 50, butI'll pay the percentage ratio.

(44:53):
Uh, I'm paying more of thepercentage of what we are doing
and she's cool with that.
And it's kind of like that'swhy I like when we're talking
earlier.
I'm like if I'm paying morepercentage-wise, I feel like you
shouldn't have to ask me formoney.
You should be doing what youneed to do to make sure your
shit's straight.
But that ain't the casesometimes.
So now I got to make sure I'mstraight and make sure I keep

(45:16):
you on the straight and narrowwhen it comes to your finances
and stuff or, you know, showingyou opportunities so you can
feel like you are being you knowtaken care of in that regard
and shit I understand but thatcomes with the territory.

DeLaw (45:36):
You can make more money yeah.

Wes (45:41):
So I don't know, man, it's um, I'd be glad when this whole
conversation of modern women andtraditional women and men and
shit finally dies down.
I think it's dying down, butit's just one of those things
like, if you can afford to do it, you can afford to do it, but I

(46:03):
don't think anyone it, but Idon't think anyone should have
that.
I don't think anyone shouldhave that as a a determining.
I can't say that.
I would say no one should havethat as their.
What do you call it?
The filibuster, the thing thatlike knocks every.

(46:23):
You know what I mean.
That trumps everything.

DeLaw (46:25):
All these modern women that are out here talking about
they want a traditional man.
They lie through their damnteeth.

Wes (46:33):
Even, even as, even as, even as men.
It's kind of like yo, your lifeand what you're doing right now
dictates if you're going to beable to get a traditional woman
or a modern woman.
Most of us, because of thisthing called capitalism, because
of us being Black and systemicracism and stuff like that,

(46:53):
we're going to have to get thequote-unquote modern woman,
because we're going to need alittle bit of help.
I personally don't need a littlebit of help, but you get what
I'm saying.
It comes time for, like, theraising of the family and as
things you know I mean things tohave a stay-at-home life.

DeLaw (47:13):
In a nutshell, you know, so is it?
If we're looking at traditionalas in like the traditional
traditional, unless you live inan economy apartment and you pay
$800 a month, that's not reallywhere you're doing it, because
the stuff is too high to betrying to pay the shit on your
own.
But because I hear a lot ofpeople oh well, you know, I feel

(47:39):
you know, I want a traditionalman like someone who's going to,
like, take my tires to thething and da-da-da, yeah, that's
fine, I'll do all that.
I'm like, oh okay, that soundsgood.
I said so what do you bring tothe table?
I mean, I mean, look at me.

Wes (47:52):
No, no, no, no no.

DeLaw (47:55):
Because you try to pull a traditional man.
There's a lot of them out there.

Wes (48:02):
You got some that are hybrids I'm gonna tell you, like
this, right.
So hybrids, hybrid, like, whenit comes to that, I'm gonna say
traditional values.
I'm not a traditional man, Ihave traditional values.
I'm looking for a woman withtraditional values.
I'm not looking for her to betraditional, and the only reason
why I'm not looking for her tobe traditional is because, like
I said, all those variables, uh,they, we are not afforded the,

(48:26):
the, the luxuries of other racesand stuff like that.
So there are going to be timeswhere it's just like I don't get
something or something doesn'thappen for us the way it should
happen, because the color of ourskin not say that it's going to
happen all the time, but thosemoments do happen.
I could be laid off or I couldlose my job and stuff like that,
and I don't.

(48:46):
I would hate to put us in asituation where, um, like, we
live in solely off of me and wehave the lifestyle living solely
off of me, and then, when it'snot me, we appear to be poorer
than poor because we can't payfor anything, right?
So in situations like that, I'mnot a trust fund baby, my

(49:07):
parents don't have money.
It's not like I can say well,mom and dad, can you hold me,
could you hold our family downfor a little bit while I look
for a job Like the community isthere, but the community don't
have, uh, resources like thatlike other communities.
So for that very reason I knowin the top of my head I'm like
yo sure who wouldn't want atraditional woman, but I kind of

(49:29):
just need her to have sometraditional values, some
submissiveness here and thereNot here and there, but some
submissiveness Like these arethe things I'm looking for, and
let's work at this shit together, because that's the only way
that we're going to get ahead.

DeLaw (49:44):
I can't even say I just want something.
I need food Submissive.
It's like look, I get it.
You've been taught to be astrong black woman.
Mama taught you.

Wes (49:54):
There's nothing wrong with being a strong woman.

DeLaw (49:56):
There's nothing wrong with any of that.

Wes (49:58):
It's just when it comes to me and your relationship, you
give all the mother people that,when it comes to me and your
relationship, that's what I'msaying.
That's why I said somesubmissiveness, because I don't
want you to be in.
You know out there.
You know what I mean.

DeLaw (50:15):
I'm not talking about like at work.
I'm just saying like what ishere and the decisions made,
like this is what I think weshould do.
I think we should go forwardwith this.
I'm not saying that I want youto just go in there blindly.
No, you still talk, you stilltalk about it and if I think,
hey, you know what, you got apoint there yeah, no, no, no, we
should go.
Like, even when we updated ourtimeshare and my wife first of

(50:36):
all, you know we went in thereto say no.
And they end up saying yeah,Well, here's the logic, and I
broke it down because I didn'twant her to think I just went in
there already trying to upgradeand do all that stuff.
I told her.
I said what the guy told uswhen we was in Myrtle Beach was,
if you decide to move on it orwhatever and the numbers don't

(51:01):
come out right, say fuck it,it's not that serious.
You can always, you know, I waslike, okay, I hear what you say
, og.
So I told her, I said, well,when they showed us the numbers
about what we could do, and Ikind of think they got over on
us, just just a little bit.
Just enough that I'm like, ah,you got me.

(51:22):
But for all this, just a littlebit, just enough that I'm like,
ah, you got me.
But I wasn't mad at it becauseI knew I didn't have $1,900.
They gave me a credit card, butthat's neither there.
When I looked at the monthlypayment that we would have to
pay once we get the credit cardpaid down or whatever we've been

(51:45):
paying you know we're payinglike $88 a month for the
timeshare and then it goes up tolike $127 in like two months I
told my wife.
I said we have to pay that $120for another two years.
I said we're better off justgoing ahead and getting this and

(52:05):
paying $81 a month for 10 years, possibly sending our loan to
the bank, letting the bank takecare of it, and we paid a bank
back for a lower interest rate,lower monthly fee and we'll be
all right.
You know what I'm saying?
And she was like, oh, andthat's why you did it.
I said yes, because if we'regoing to have to pay, we have to

(52:26):
pay this for another two and ahalf years.
Why not get the full benefit ofit?

Wes (52:32):
you know what I'm saying.

DeLaw (52:34):
And she was like, okay, I mean that's why I let you make
the decision, because obviouslyyou were doing the numbers in
your head and you were thinking.
I said yeah because it ended uplike we're about to have this.
You know, next month this goesup.
So you already gonna becomplaining about why we got
this, like I knew I shouldn'tlet you talk me back into that

(52:55):
in July and blah, blah, blah.
Now we can travel.
You know what I'm saying.
All we gotta do is use ourpoints.
So we go.
So let's say we.
I was like you know what I'msaying.
All we got to do is use ourpoints.
I was like you know what?
Wes, I'll be down in Oxon Hill.
Man, we're going to be over inwhatever.
Over in Oxon Hill, come hollerat us, use our points.
All we got to do is drive downhere.

(53:16):
It's free for us.
Use the points, keep it rolling.
You know what I'm saying.
It's the easiest way to travel.

Wes (53:25):
Less money being put in.
This sounds like Wyndham.
Yeah, of course.

DeLaw (53:30):
Of course they gave you the sweet deal.
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
But I also told my wife.
I said, even if it's somethingthat Wyndham can't do, we
already have the other timeshare.
We have all our boys over there.
If we want to go somewhere forseven days, it's only going to
cost us like $306.
Seven days Would you rather pay$306 per night?

(53:54):
Would you rather pay $306 forseven days?
When we went to Pocono, when wegot married, I paid all of like
$360 for a week in a Poconos.

Wes (54:09):
A week, it's not bad.

DeLaw (54:12):
When we went to Williamsburg, Virginia, I paid
$400 for the week.

Wes (54:18):
I don't know about Williamsburg, but you know,
williamsburg is up there inprice.

DeLaw (54:22):
It's just, you know, kings, williamsburg is up there
in price, kings of the Millionis right down there.

Wes (54:28):
Oswell, is it Oswell, oswell?
I keep forgetting that fuckingcity or that area, the exit, but
anyway, busch Gardens, kings ofthe Million, kings of the
Million being bought out by.

DeLaw (54:39):
Yeah, yeah, yeah, I know y'all ain't go to Kings of the
Million, it's Busch Gardens butnonetheless I said look, all the
places we can go to for just alittle bit of money would do us
a whole lot easier than havingthat only go on one trip a year.
Then we got to save up 1500just to stay in a place long

(55:03):
enough and then we got to get aflight.
It takes too much time to buildup to do that.
Along with, if we pay anoutright price for it and we had
seven days there and you'retalking about, you want to come
back after four days we're goingto have some issues Because if

(55:25):
we pay $1,500, $2,000 to do that, oh hell, no, we ain't coming
back early.
Yeah, yeah, yeah, we out here,we out here.
We're telling them to switchour roles, something, whatever
we do.
But we're not leaving earlyBecause we paid full price.
Now we're not leaving earlybecause we paid for a price.
Now we paid only $400 for aweek.
And you're like I'm tired ofthis place, I'm ready to go

(55:47):
after four or five days.
All right, see you, let's roll,because we've only paid a
fraction of the cost and I knowmy wife we can get a seven-day
trip by day four.
She's ready to roll.

Wes (55:58):
Listen, that was mine too.
Roll, Listen, that's mine too.
I'm like yo.
I personally be mad that I'mhere for fucking seven days and
I'm like, oh, I'm not wasting,Yo, we're going to have to find
something else to do.

DeLaw (56:12):
And that's the other thing.
That's the other thing too.
It's like I get it.
You know you're ready to comehome and everything else, but
like like I told her.
I got to tell you I got to haveone thing to tell them like you
have telework, I don't havetelework days, but you have
telework days, so so you couldliterally be working from there
and um.
And, like you know, andespecially being an emergency

(56:33):
officer, if I had telework daysand I was going to be gone, I'd
have to let them know because Icould be called in at any moment
.
Yeah is, I could be called inat any moment.
So if I'm teleworking, I'm inSouth Carolina and a hurricane's
coming up the coast and theysay, hey, we need you to come in
for those suggested stuff, Igotta go.
Hey, babe, I'll be back inabout a day, maybe you know.

(56:54):
But it's one of those thingswhere it's like, if I had a job
where I could telework and Iknew I didn't get called in, I
just had to have my laptop andmy job.
I don't mind working on myvacations, I'll turn my laptop
on, do some work, all right, oh,we go where.
All right, cool, let me justmove my mouse a little bit and
and and dart out.
But now I got you, yeah, butthen I will say I will save days

(57:22):
off, because then it's like allright, well, I tell work monday
and thursday.
We're leaving saturday, so thatmeans I can tell work monday,
take tuesday and wednesday off.
Tell work thursday, come backfriday.
You know what I'm saying.
Yeah, and I could manage it alittle differently, but I go in
every day.
So if I go in every day I don'thave the same option to like

(57:45):
save leave that way.
No, so that's why I always tellher, like you know, if we're
going to go.
And just because you tell herwe're on a certain day, you
don't mean you're not phased byusing leave.
It's different by side, becauseif I take off that day, we best
to not be coming back until myleave is over.
Yeah, so if I'm like I tookleave until Thursday, we better

(58:09):
be coming home on Thursday.
Yeah, on Tuesday, not onWednesday night, thursday.
You know what I'm saying.
The only way I can even livewith coming back early is if we
somehow another got a uh, got auh, a credit or like the money

(58:30):
comes back and then I can, andthen, if I can get my time, I'm
coming in tomorrow, I'm about totake this leave or whatever,
but then that takes time forthem to approve all that.

Wes (58:41):
It shouldn't take time for them to approve you coming back
to work.

DeLaw (58:45):
Well, one, you got to get the guy to, you got to get them
to do it.
I just do it Cause.
So let's say it's more likelike.

Wes (58:53):
Would you want not pay me?
And I came in.
I'm forcing your hand.
I came in.
You can't not pay me, right?

DeLaw (58:59):
I mean I'm just saying like, let's say it's on, let pay
me, right.
I mean I'm just saying like,let's say it's on.
Let's say I'm submitting mytime and I'm coming back on
Tuesday and time goes in onWednesday.
Or let's say I'm submitting mytime and I'm trying to change my
time to not come in on Tuesday.
If I don't get it in on time,then I'm better off staying out
versus coming in.

(59:20):
And then even if it getssubmitted, and now all of a
sudden it's like oh well, youknow, we submitted the time, so
you got to take the time.
I can't go back and retroactand take it out, it's stuck.
So that's why I'm always likelook, don't book no trips that
are longer than what you'rewilling to go.

Wes (59:39):
Yeah, I got you.
So, yeah, I understand that.
So another yeah, I got you.
So, yeah, I understand that.
So another before we go.
Another thing that I saw thatspread for me for this year is
that this guy was like it was aKevin Gates video on in the tire

(01:00:00):
shop and it was I don't gettired, and he was mad.
I don't get tired and he wasmad.
Ain't nobody ever say shitabout the video being on.
Oh wait, listen, I don't knowif he was expecting, you know,
people to sing along to the shitor whatever, whatever, but hey,

(01:00:24):
makes no sense, right?
And that's what I'm saying thisyear is not going to make any
sense.
Welcome 2025.
Hopefully I can make some moneyin the stock market and
continue to see the future.
So what does Kevin Case thinkhe really?

DeLaw (01:00:43):
think he want people to sing market and continue to see
the future fuckery.
So what does Kevin Gates thinkhe's going to?
He really think he's going toput people to sing along to it?

Wes (01:00:48):
No, no, no, no, not Kevin Gates.
Kevin Gates wasn't in the tireshop.
A guy was in the tire shop.
Okay, yeah, yeah, yeah, and thevideo was on and he's looking
around like ain't nobody gonnasing, ain't nobody gonna say
none.
But thank everybody for tuningin.
D-law is uh silence.

DeLaw (01:01:11):
I'm baffled baffled and silence this is the first
episode of the year.
I'm just like damn.
I just wanted to see the PlazaHotel where I can get me a job.
You know what I'm saying.
Thank everybody for tuning in.
See you next time.

Wes (01:01:22):
I just wanted to see the Plaza Hotel where I can get me a
job.
You know what I'm saying.

DeLaw (01:01:25):
Thank, everybody for tuning in.
See you next time.
I know it's not the king of NewYork, but still.