Risking It All For A Relationship

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Tim Allen's transformation from cocaine dealer to Hollywood star reveals stark privilege in the justice system. His cooperation with authorities after being caught with 650 grams of cocaine led to multiple convictions while allowing him to avoid a life sentence and build a successful entertainment career.

• Tim Allen faced life imprisonment for cocaine trafficking before becoming a TV star
• The cocaine trade was once considered "a gentleman's game" with established codes
• Rising inflation and utility costs are creating financial pressure on households
• Open relationships often create imbalance and favor one partner over another
• The show "Medusa" depicts the complications of non-traditional relationship arrangements
• Setting personal boundaries is crucial in maintaining healthy relationships
• Work-life balance becomes especially challenging when financial obligations require long work hours
• Couples often struggle finding compromise between individual needs and togetherness

Episode Transcript

Wes (00:00):
I would say yo just lay in the bed until you fall asleep,
but then you run the risk offalling asleep yourself.
I've tried that numerous times.
I'm not doing that no more.
I personally do not do that nomore.

DeLaw (00:10):
Oh, you're going to bed.
Okay, where are you going?
Downstairs, downstairs.
Yeah, you better go to sleep.
No, no, I'm up, I'm up, I'm up,don't let me fall asleep.
If you guys tell me, don't letyou fall asleep, go to bed,
we'll still be married tomorrow.

Wes (00:26):
It's all right, everybody.
Welcome back to another episodeof the According to Wes podcast
.
As always we have.

DeLaw (00:34):
Yeah, lord, the irritated coach, because we don't ever
get no good calls when we'reaway from home Playing
basketball.

Wes (00:46):
Yeah me Wes Home improvement, Tim Allen.
Good cause when we're away fromhome playing basketball.
You got me Wes home improvement, tim Allen, minus the snitching
minus the snitching you knowthat story right.
So before he became Tim the twoman, taylor motherfucker was
dealing cocaine, so he was doingthat right.
And then he got caught up, goesin front of the judge, you know

(01:11):
, pleading like yo, if you cangive me a second chance, this,
this and this Want to go on acomedy, blah, blah, blah, blah,
blah.
And then ends up snitching Ooh,supplying on his plug and shit
like that and he walked.
Yeah, minus the snitching.
Only a white man can do that inDetroit.

DeLaw (01:33):
I'm glad you snitched, but your career's gonna have to
start in 10 years.

Wes (01:39):
Only a white man can do that in Detroit.
I think it was Detroit thatthat happened.
Let me look that up real quickbecause I might just be saying
shit, but I'm pretty sure TimAllen cocaine dealing.
Let's see.

DeLaw (01:53):
Don't get us universal out here, because you know we
don't want to get sued.
We ain't got no money, Fuck.

Wes (01:58):
Tim Allen.
I mean not fuck Tim Allen, butit's his life.
If it happened, it happened.
Boom, boom, boom.
Here we go.
I'm just trying to make sure itwas Detroit.
I know the story is realbecause I remember hearing it.
I remember him being on TV.
Yeah, it was Detroit.
I remember him being on TV inan interview talking about it.
The family moved to Detroit,michigan.

(02:18):
His mother got remarried to herhigh school sweetheart Boom,
boom, boom.
Drug trafficking, cocainedealer.
You want to see his mugshot?

DeLaw (02:28):
Did he throw some gang signs?

Wes (02:30):
No, this is in the.
It was caught at KalamazooBattle Creek International
Airport in possession of 650grams of cocaine 1.4 pounds.
So here is the mugshot.
Wow, that's your boy, that is.

DeLaw (02:55):
Tim VanTaylor Put the whole porn stash though.

Wes (03:00):
Yeah, he began dealing drugs two years after graduation
.
He was caught face seriousprison time and, unfortunately
for Allen, the state legislatorhad just passed a law that tied
a life sentence to carry anyconviction of selling that
amount and I think he justsnitched what set up.

(03:22):
And I think he just snitchedwhat's that up oh, I don't know
what name who allegedly has beenfollowing amateur drug dealers
for months that's the truth,therefore.

DeLaw (03:41):
Yeah, lucky someone with it.
Yeah, yep, he facing lifeimprisonment.

Wes (03:44):
He pleaded guilty to drug trafficking and opted Lucky
Samoan, yeah Yep, he faced lifeimprisonment.
He pleaded guilty to drugtrafficking and opted to provide
the names of the dealers Toauthorities.
In exchange for a lightersentence, they allowed him to be
sentenced In federal courtrather than a state court, so
that Michigan law could beignored.
Dun dun dun.

(04:05):
That's real great as a futurestar, charmed a judge.
Throughout the ordeal he toldAllen that he expected him to be
a very successful comedian.
Fortunately, in the comedyworld, being a snitch isn't a
deal breaker.
Nah, with his information heindicted.
He helped indict 20 people inthe drug trade and resulted in a

(04:29):
conviction and sentencing offour major drug dealers.
White boy Tim.
White boy Tim, Telling you man.

DeLaw (04:41):
Tim the two-man.
Taylor yeah, I didn't know hewas out here snitching like that
.

Wes (04:48):
Yeah, yeah, yeah boy, yeah, boy snitch, but that's neither
here nor there.
I forgot why that even came up.
But yo, I'm out here, we outhere, we out here that's crazy,
tim the two man.

DeLaw (05:04):
Taylor, we out here.
That's crazy.
Oh yeah, it's crazy.
Tim the two-man tailor, I wouldhave never guessed it.

Wes (05:12):
I mean, I mean, why not Everybody got doing a little?
Not everybody, but everybodygot a pass.

DeLaw (05:24):
Yeah, Apparently a lot of them got cocaine passes.

Wes (05:31):
Yo cocaine, god dang, you just gonna get on a Listen if he
wasn't being watched or set upby the undercover cop.
That means he's been doing thatfor a long time.
He's been taking a pound,flying that shit to wherever he
need.
Been doing that for a long time, like he's been taking a pound,
flying that shit to wherever heneeded to fly it to and then
coming back Back.
Then that just must have been.
You know what I mean.

DeLaw (05:53):
Well, from what I hear From back then, they said it
used to be a gentleman's game,so it was like a code that came
with it.
It wasn't all the killing andstuff they had.
Oh yeah, of course it wascocaine, a lot of street level
shit with the heroin and crackand all that.
That's what we see now as faras an overview of the whole drug
game in general.

(06:14):
A lot of it.
When it came to cocaine andmoving it and stuff like that, a
lot of old school was like,yeah, no, it was a gentleman's
game.
It was a gentleman's game.
There was a code.
You didn't just do this, youdidn't just go and take over
this, you sold what you sold,you do whatever.
That's why a lot of them, whenthey got out, they knew how to

(06:36):
store their money.
They were good.
They were good.
I wouldn't change a bit of itbecause back then it wasn't you
risking your life to do it.
It's not like you're seeing asnowfall.

Wes (06:48):
What's more honorable in your opinion.
This is on topic Sellingcocaine or selling crack.

DeLaw (06:58):
Cocaine.

Wes (06:59):
Okay.

DeLaw (07:01):
I say that because recreation, that's your choice
to put them rails in your nose.

Wes (07:08):
It's addictive, but it ain't.

DeLaw (07:09):
Yeah, it's addictive, it's crack it ain't crack, yeah,
and a bunch of people oh, whenI, if you do crack, you do coke,
you don't get hooked.
No, it's a recreational drug.
People do it, you know, you doit every day.
Yeah, you gonna get your whipdropped and all that.
But if you do it casually, likeat a party, here and there, you
don't instantly.
It's not like crack youinstantly you addicted.

Wes (07:31):
That how it might take control of you Right.

DeLaw (07:36):
But like people that I know, like you know, I mean Big
Nick's dead, but he said thatwhen he was at Howard.
He said they would all do a lotof drinking.
But because you get hungry whenyou drink and they all you know
the standard of beauty wasbeing smaller they all do bumps
of cocaine so that they wouldn'tbe hungry, no more.

Wes (08:02):
And then they said, they instantly would sober up and
keep drinking.

DeLaw (08:06):
I'm like yo, that's some crazy.
I can't have a night like that.
Man like that.
He said he had a lot of friendsthat uh had had their stomachs
pumped because of uh alcoholpoisoning.
Yeah, stuff like that.
Because you know it's like uh,pretty much it's like drinking
on adderall.
Adderall is pretty much justreally sophisticated cocaine.
It sobers you up instantly andyou wide awake and ready.

Wes (08:25):
Yeah, some of that shit is like a molecule away from being
an actual pair of coke, itchanged some things within it.
It wasn't like cocaine, but itcomes from that.
You know what I mean?
It comes from that genealogy, Iguess.
But yeah, man, I've been on myDIY shit and I was cause, uh,

(08:45):
you know, global warming is uhin effect and it's starting to
feel a lot like uh we outsidewhen I leave the house.
After COVID is even, we'recoming on the cusp of this shit
being even more expensive.
So I need to definitely doubledown and figure out some of the

(09:09):
how I'm going to be social andhave fun inside of the goddamn
house.
So I've been, you know,finishing up my my quote,
unquote honey do list as far as,like, this need to be fixed,
that need to be done, this needto be done, this need to be
moved.
Still ain't got no grill as faras like this need to be fixed.
that need to be done.
This need to be done.
This need to be moved.
Yeah, still ain't got no grillFuckin' up on that, but I will

(09:34):
buy one this year.

DeLaw (09:35):
Fuckin' up.

Wes (09:38):
Yeah, I am, I will buy one this year.
Should have been that one.
Yeah, the bar would bereplenished, you know.

DeLaw (09:49):
Yeah, I got one bottle to add to my bar, so I did get a.
I already told you, I got theBlantons and yeah, I just got a
refill.
I took some Basil Hayden to aparty that's gone.
I need my Basil Hayden now toget that back.
It's not bad.
Basil Hayden's price is goingdown a little bit.

(10:10):
It's not $50 or more, it's morelike $45.

Wes (10:14):
It ain't much better, but I just need to get my, because
once I start to replenish thatbar, just like you, it's
probably going to last you abouta couple years.
Only because you don't drinkthat shit every day.
Your everyday shit is like your.
Okay, I bought a bottle ofTito's Now it might be a special

(10:35):
Tito's in the bar.
You just want some vodka.
You know you're just getting a$20 bottle.
You know what I mean $20 bottleof Tito's.

DeLaw (10:45):
Like $20 bottle.
You know what I mean $20 bottleof Tito's.
It ain't nothing crazy, unlesssome people come over and they
start opening up bottles.
I've been in that man Eventoday.
I might not even drink today.
Try to cut back on it a littlebit, we'll see what happens.

Wes (11:03):
All I know is, like I said, I've been focusing on that and
making sure I don't overspendTalking about eggs.
We talked about all that othershit.
We talked about groceries.

DeLaw (11:20):
When you said eggs were $8, I said, man, thank God,
trader Joe's can only take oneout the store, so the prices can
stay at about $3.498,.
I said, man, thank God, traderJoe's has a.
You can only take one out thestore, and so the price can stay
at about $3.49.
And I was like, yes, thank you.

Wes (11:31):
Yeah, people.
Just I don't know I understandwhy just the bird food shit, but
it's just.

DeLaw (11:37):
But you know that Trader Joe's, my mom, called me and
told me Trader Joe's hasfertilized eggs that you can
hatch and get a chicken.

Wes (11:48):
For the Filipinos that like to eat them half mid.
I forget what they call it,with the proper term that they
call it, but they eat them likethey eat it half grown and cook
them and eat them.
I forget what it's called.
I think it's the Filipinos.

DeLaw (12:05):
They were like yeah, they got the eggs and you can hatch
it, and the chicken, you justgotta raise it and it gives you
an egg periodically.

Wes (12:12):
I was like oh, that's what you're getting there.
Yeah, we were talking aboutyeah, yeah, yeah, I might have
to look into that, but I justgotta figure out.
Like I said, once the fencecome in, once I put that fence
in around the yard, I might haveto look into keeping a chicken
or two.

DeLaw (12:26):
Right, I might have to come to you and be like yo fam,
you got any eggs today?
Yeah, man, I got about four.
I'll give you one Damn.

Wes (12:38):
Nah, I really, I'm really, I want to look into it.
And I got the space for, likeif it's outside, and I got to
keep into it.
And I got the space for I guessit's outside and I got to keep
them.
Like I could buy a shed, likemy tools are going to the shed
If they're going to stay in theshed or whatever I have you at
night and I left them.
I don't know what I'm gonna do.

DeLaw (12:53):
I got to really research, I mean chickens don't fly away,
but you still got to keep themprotected.

Wes (12:58):
No, no, yeah, that's what I'm saying.
Like how would I?
What is the best way to do that?
Because I don't mind doing theegg shit.
That seems like the easiestthing to do in the city is have
some chicken.
I mean, I'm not in the city,but you get what I mean, Close
to it enough.
I seem like the easiest thingto do is to keep some chickens.

DeLaw (13:16):
Yeah.

Wes (13:18):
And grow some plants.

DeLaw (13:19):
Yeah, I mean, if you're into that stuff.

Wes (13:24):
I'm into saving money and eating healthy and prolonging my
life, so yeah, you ain't got alot of that man.
We all know At some point inlife we all used to indulge in
planting plants.
No, I plant plants, yeah.
Yeah, I mean at some point thathas been my life.
I like planting plants.

(13:48):
Now, do all of them make it?
I'm on a good ratio.
About 80% of my shit makes it.
Sometimes the 20% is I fuckedup something or I did a wrong
ratio or something and it neverrecovered Like I put the plant
in shock.

DeLaw (14:00):
But 80% of my shit.
Oh, you put the plant in shock.
Yeah, you but 80% of my shit.
Oh, you put the plant in theshop.
Yeah, you can do that.

Wes (14:07):
Yeah, 80% of my shit.
Yeah, it's still here for likeyears so.
But yeah, man definitely needto get a grill, especially on
those days where you're runningthe AC all day and shit like
that and don't want to use the.
The utility is just crazy.

(14:29):
Everything's up, everything'sup.

DeLaw (14:32):
Yeah, utilities are pretty crazy right now.
But somebody was telling methey said their BG&E went
skyrocketing.
I was like what?
Yeah, that shit went up, up, upup.
I'm like what the fuck is goingon?

Wes (14:49):
It's going up, up, up, up up.
Yeah, I think that shit isskyrocketing.
I don't know if it's just oneof those things where we notice
it more when money is tight.
No, no, no, Just when money tostart for everybody.

DeLaw (15:07):
You know what I mean.
It could be something like that.
It might be.
I mean, I don't know.
It's a tough call because Ifelt like they've been creeping
up.
They've been creeping up for awhile but I couldn't pinpoint

(15:27):
exactly like they've really beencreeping up.
You know what I'm saying?
Because I don't necessarily.
I don't pay the BG.
My wife does, so she'll be theone that has to tell me that
it's creeping up and everythingelse.
But I noticed like the internetbill's going up.
I pay the internet and we usedto pay 89 a month.
We're now paying about 99 amonth.

(15:49):
I'm like yo, y'all went aboutten dollars and literally we've
been here what four years.
Y'all go up ten dollars in fouryears, a little less than four
years.
I'm like yo, yeah, like whatare y doing?
Like, are y'all giving mefaster internet or y'all just
raising the price?

Wes (16:08):
I'm telling you the price of the service fees.
Probably, like they throw onsomething like, oh, this is the
fee for this, this and this,that's gone up, but not the
price of their service.
You know what I mean?
I know it's not a service fee,not B service fee or maintenance
fee or whatever.
I mean.
Right, because I know DC isnotorious for like, let's just

(16:31):
say they had Comcast or someshit like that.
I forget what it's called, Iforget the name of the fee, but
dependent and it's a percentageof your bill.
Some people paying $50 in a fee, just one fee, and that's not
even for one fee, and that's noteven for the service, and
that's not even for the service.
That's crazy.
Yeah, listen, when stuff likethis happens, it makes everybody

(16:55):
want to do an audit of whatthey're paying for.

DeLaw (16:57):
I mean, because you know, that's what me and my wife do.
What the hell are we paying?
Because it's Cause, it's, it's,it's just, it's like it popped
up on a soap critic and it waslike almost like without warning
a little bit, but with awarning.
It's like almost without awarning but with a warning, like

(17:19):
you know what I mean.
Like all right, yeah, we got toget ready for this.
And da, da, da da.
You know it's like all right,cool, whatever, but yeah, it's
just been going up, likeeverything has been going up.
I'm like I don't get it.

Wes (17:42):
It's no, you get it.
You know what they say.
Not, you know what they say.
Say so we're feeling it becauseinflation never really went
down 100% and then groceryprices are up because of still
inflation or they gouging.
I'm gonna say they gouging.
And then these terror shit is,you know, scaring all the
companies and shit like that.
So that's why I said thissummertime, like the we outside

(18:03):
shit, like yeah, it's coming tothat time, you know, changing,
season changing in this area,but how many people won't be
outside doing what they did lastyear?
I guarantee you a lot of themare just going into that doing
it, because the five guys cost20 for a burger and some fries.
How you know much you doing onthose bottomless mimosa brunches

(18:28):
, you know what I mean them dayparties.

DeLaw (18:33):
You got to budget that shit.
What's a month?
Maybe In April we're goingbottomless mimosa, all right, so
let's start putting money awayfor it.
Well, I want to get put $10away, alright, look, that means
we might have to eat before wego, but we can get the
bottomless mimosa while we'rethere.
We'll get a thing of fries Iput on our stuff.

Wes (18:57):
I'm just saying, you know, I'm just saying but yeah, man,
it's just, I don't know, I don'tknow, I don't know nothing, no
more.
I'm living in the world likeeverybody else and trying to
play the game the best way I canyeah, man, that's all you can
do.

DeLaw (19:17):
what else is there to do is just play the game the best
you can.
I mean already you got peoplelosing their jobs left and right
and they were like, oh yeah,everything's going to be fine.
Sleepy Joe's gone, now you gotwoke Trump.

Wes (19:34):
Listen fuck all that shit.

DeLaw (19:40):
I can't even blame that on on Biden and Trump.

Wes (19:45):
I blame that on everybody else that voted for the
motherfucker listen, like I told, when my wife was talking about
this shit I was like it's thegovernment as a collective,
because if things were wrong,nobody did anything to stop
anybody so it's everybody'sfault.
We're stuck in the middle, youknow I mean that's in the middle

(20:09):
of all of it too yeah, that'show I uh, that's us, that's how,
that's how I see it yo.
So you was telling me before weuh recording, like the show
that you was watching.

DeLaw (20:25):
Oh, medusa, medusa, yeah, man, man, man, hold up.
It just lets me know that Iain't ready for no open
relationship Now, mind you, theshow is good.
It's about corruption, about awoman who all of a sudden became
the CEO of Medusa Corporation.
Go on a little boat ride orboat trip.

(20:46):
Boat explodes, they assumeshe's dead and she comes back
with no memory.
I think, honestly, she dies inthe midst of all of it.
Some lady comes and saves her,brings her back to life with
some healing powers and shitlike that, so a little mystical,
but comes back and she's tryingto figure out her life.
Was I a bitch back when I wasfirst here?
Was I this, was I that?

(21:08):
And so the main part, I wastalking about that, you know the
whole corruption bumping familytrying to kill her.
All this I wouldn't worry aboutit.
It was a relationship betweenher and her husband, because she
was like yeah, you know, Ithink she like came home with
her husband and then hishusband's girlfriend was like so

(21:29):
she doesn't remember anything.
Why don't you just tell her youguys got a divorce so we can be
together?
He's like I'm not about to dothat.
I love my wife and my daughter,the hell's wrong with you right
and she's like so we just yeah.
So eventually the wife's like,so well, before the accident,

(21:49):
were we good?
He's like, yeah, no, we wereperfect.
And she's like, why are youlying to me?
I know you're lying.
He said fine, we were in anopen relationship.
By your choice, you asked forit and we, you know, and before
you, before your, you know youraccident, we had pretty much

(22:12):
said you know we were done withit.
It's going to be me and you.
That part he lied about.
They didn't have thatconversation.
She was still being for thestreets murder.
So she starts getting theseflashbacks of all this stuff and
seeing part she was still beingfor the streets murder.
So she starts getting theseflashbacks of all this stuff and
seeing part of her life andseeing people who were wrong and
everything else.
But she has a flashback ofgetting no, the dude.

(22:37):
The husband has a flashback ofwhen he was like walking around
at his house and he sees hiswife just getting hit from the
back by some muscular black dude.
Oh, that was a show, yo, yeah.
And he looks over and he's like, oh shit, the wife looks over
and she's like, don't worryabout it, he doesn't mind, keep

(22:57):
going Yo none of this is popularas fuck.
You could see dude's face.
The husband's face was likethis bitch, you got somebody in
my house.
So he goes out to his brother,poo, and she comes down like
you're not mad, are you?
And he's like I didn't know,you had company.
Oh, so she like startsunbuckling his pants and like

(23:20):
giving him a handjob.
Like I told you, you know wegot an open relationship, so you
should be out there doingsomething and you should bring
back what you learned to me.

Wes (23:28):
No, no, no.
You pimped me at this point.
You pimped me yo.

DeLaw (23:36):
I mean I'm like yo, you were watching this with your
wife.
Yeah, I was watching it with mywife.
There's so many sex scenes inhis drink.
I'm just like what the fuck?
Like all right, whatever.
So here's where it gets funny,because we don't know the
stipulations of an openrelationship.
We know what an openrelationship to us is If you
fuck and you might have a littlegirlfriend on the side, but you
don't bring no drama, no kids,nothing else to.

(24:06):
So the wife pulls up on him,sees him at like a hotel,
wherever he was fucking hislittle side.
That I guess you can't reallycall a side, I guess his
girlfriend and the chick gettingsmashed and she's like oh, I
love you, I love you, and she'staking a video of it and she get
mad, oh my other thing, myother thing.

Wes (24:20):
You, you know why you married me.
My, that's what I do.
I don't say that, first of all,that's some crazy shit, like I
know.
I said I'm bringing this intoour relationship, but I need to
see where I stand in thissituation and don't worry about
what I'm doing.
But I need to see where I'mstanding in this situation, like

(24:40):
, come on now, brought somebodyto the house and you following
me, right?

DeLaw (24:46):
You follow me.
You brought somebody to thehouse and you following me,
right, you followed me and youbrought somebody to the whole
crib, like, come on, make thatmake sense.
You broke the rules of it.
You broke the rules.
So the rules to the openrelationship was you only can
fuck the person once and youcouldn't fall in love with her,

(25:06):
which is a little easier saidthan done.
But, like I told you, itfavored only one of the genders.
Now, mind you, in the anomalyof things, it could favor a man,
but we'll just say this man,even though he had the money and
a little bit of power, hewasn't just going to hit the bar
and find a check to take home,unless it was a hooker.

(25:29):
It's those circumstances whereyou can go out and you meet
somebody and they're already alittle drunk and you might could
.
It's not uncommon.
It really favored her.
She was like who initiated thisopen relationship?
He said you did.
You said you were tired.
You know it's been 20 years,you want to try some new stuff

(25:51):
and this, this and this, and youwant to try to open
relationship.
It was on you.
He said I wasn't for it, Iwasn't opposed to, but to make
you happy because I love you, Isaid, sure, why not?
Yeah, I'm like nigga, myanxiety ain't built that way,
because I already know my wifeoh, I'm out, bye, see you.

(26:12):
She come back like, oh Lord,I'm worn out, mind you.
And they're still sleepingtogether too.
So well, you know, let's say mywife come home, it's like damn,
I'm worn out.
Let's say that you're a hugehit in my heart.
So yo, that's you know.

Wes (26:24):
That's why you, as a let's say, that's a huge amount of
time.
That's why, as a man, you don'tput yourself in those types of
situations.
You just shouldn't.
As an adult, you should not putyourself in those situations if
you're not able to shut yourmind off when your mind decides
to wander around and startthinking about shit.

DeLaw (26:43):
My biggest thing is they didn't show any oil or anything
or whatever.
Wander around and startthinking about shit.
My biggest thing is I wouldn'twant it because they didn't show
any or anything or whatever inthis.
But I know what comes with theterritory they're going.
You know the woman going togive some hands, the dude going
to nick her down, she wants somemore.
Then your wife going hey,goodnight, babe, kiss you like,

(27:04):
hold up what you got.
Yeah, no, the downstream oncein a morning.

Wes (27:06):
Then your wife comes home.

DeLaw (27:07):
Hey, goodnight babe kiss you like hold on, babe, what you
got.
Yeah, yeah, yeah.

Wes (27:12):
No Oof goodness mine.

DeLaw (27:15):
That was a, that was the.

Wes (27:22):
uh, that was that that just reminded me of like a
conversation I was having one ofmy own girls when I was uh, she
was talking about um, the showmarried to medicine, and I used
to watch that when it first cameout, like way, way back in the
day because I thought it wouldbe something different, and it
just ended up being anotherclone of uh, house, housewoods,
of I mean housewives or whateveryeah, but long story short I

(27:46):
was like I was telling her I'mlike yo, as a man, you shouldn't
even put yourself in asituation to be on a show like
that, because any, any andeverything can happen and you
end up defending.
You got to defend your wife atall costs, even if you don't
even believe in the goddamncause, but at home it's a little
bit more easier to you know,kind of.

(28:07):
You know, I mean, this is whatyou did, wrong, this, this and
that now, as a man, you might beput in a situation where you do
correct her at home.
She don't want to be correctedin public.
So you got to be on tv lyingand not believe in a damn thing
that you say, just the back ofyour wife, right?
I was like nah, or you fightingsome dude because she felt like

(28:27):
she could talk to some guy anytype of way, and you know what I
mean.
And then it went into a wholesituation of, uh, it went to a
whole situation of her tellingabout a scenario that happened
and it was all based off of what, uh, what someone said to a man
.
And then the guy saying my wifecan say whatever she want, or my

(28:49):
girlfriend say whatever shewant, and I was like a woman
can't say whatever she wants toa man.
He was like well, why not, I'mlike?
I was like because it'sdangerous.
So, like you don't know whoyou're talking to, men don't
even say whatever they want tobecause there's the threat of
like you don't even say whateverthey want to up the minute,
because there's the threat oflike you don't have to fight
this motherfucker.
Not that I'm scared or not,that a person is scared, it's
just like yo, if I got to getthe Chick-fil-A to get my baby,

(29:12):
some, you know my kids, somechicken fingers and shit like
that.
I say whatever I want to say tothis dude and he ready to fight
me.
Now I'm probably not going toget that chick filet.
I might go to jail because Imight hurt him, I might die.
You know what I mean.
You just like.

DeLaw (29:25):
Might be a combination of a lot of things.

Wes (29:27):
A lot of things.
So it's just like you can'tjust say you shouldn't just feel
, like you could say whateveryou want to say to people, and
that's I was like as a man, likeif you got a wife that feels
that way, don't go on thoseshows.
But hey, they on them shows.
She do the well, y'all canhandle it gracefully and classy

(29:50):
and stuff like that.
And I'm like, yeah, you could.
There are some shows where youdo see that.
But the man in that situationshould know his wife and know
what type of situation she mightget herself in.
And if she ain't that type,don't go on that show my thing
is about that is the perspectivethat they keep.

DeLaw (30:08):
They keep oh, you know, these are shows all right, cool.
It's a show that ischoreographed a little bit, but
the reactions are real.
Like when, uh, jim jones is uhwith chrissy, hit that chick
that said that she uh used to gowhen she came on there her, I
think it was her and Yanni cameon there, she was like, yeah,

(30:29):
you know, like we're not gonnatell you what happens, but it's
a show.
Like they knew that, like meand Fab had messed around a
little bit.
So they said, yeah, at somepoint in the show you're gonna
have to say that and you'regonna do it in such a setting
and we're just gonna kind of letit go where it goes.
Yeah, and I'm like I would hateto be on a show, especially like

(30:50):
a show, where you knoweverybody.
Yeah, okay, so we investigatedand we saw that you used to mess
with such and such, so they'remarried.
You need you to tell everyone,needs you to kind of like, just
kind of bring it up, just kindof like out the blue, like like
just try to put it, make it seemas natural as possible, because
you know at some point.
He's going to talk about thissituation, about this, and just

(31:12):
slide it in there.
We'll just see what happens.
Like what?
So you want me to get my asskicked by this big military
motherfucker just to be like, ohyeah, man, you know she used to
do the same thing to me whenshe used to get me here, like
what?
Like you want me to get my asskicked?
Oh my God, you know what I'msaying.
That's how I view these things.
That's why I like watching thereal House Husbands of Hollywood

(31:35):
, because it made fun of it.
You knew it wasn't real, butthat's pretty much like.
In my opinion, even though itwent on.
For however long it went on, itwas like really just making fun
of that.
Yeah, I know, this ain't real.
They're just scripting it, likeanyone else.

Wes (31:55):
You think that show should come back?

DeLaw (31:59):
Real House Husbands.
Honestly, I think all themshows should get off Now.
Hear me out, so you get veryfew people who get on from those
shows.
K Michelle Cardi B.

Wes (32:13):
K Michelle was successful in her own right before that.

DeLaw (32:16):
Yeah, kind of.
But it really propelled hercareer, it got her into the
mainstream front.
And then it's one thing ifyou're known, you're on an album
but you've never been seenbefore.
So now you get on this thinglike I heard of that name.
Now you're now a market.
So now Rick Ross is like hey,I'm about to do a song that's

(32:38):
about to hit the radio.
You're going to be on it, I bet.
Come to the studio.
So now you become a name A,Cardi B.
Who ever heard of Cardi Bbefore?
She said that the dude from whowas that group?
The group that guys from PeteGunz or whatever?
Huh, Was it Pete Gunz?

Wes (32:59):
Peter Gunz, yeah, and Lord Tariq.

DeLaw (33:03):
Yeah, so because he's on Love and Hip Hop right he was, I
don't know, I haven't watchedthat.

Wes (33:11):
He was like yeah, he fucked .

DeLaw (33:13):
I fucked him.
He paid me.
Like why am I gonna fuck him?
He's not gonna pay me?
That was the clip that happened.

Wes (33:19):
Yeah, I don't remember any of that shit because I wasn't.

DeLaw (33:23):
I mean, you know, I'm not , yeah, I don't remember any of
that shit.

Wes (33:24):
It was at a reunion show.
I'm not a watcher, as you wouldsay.

DeLaw (33:30):
But I saw the clip.
I didn't see the actual reunion, but I saw the clip and I was
like what the hell is thisperson?
And then you don't know whothis is and they play Kodak
Yellow or Bodak, whatever KodakYellow.

Wes (33:40):
Yeah.

DeLaw (33:42):
And I'm like, wow, okay, well.
And I'm like, wow, okay, well,that's your second one.
But honestly, just take theshow because, like all these
people, oh, I'm a rapper, I'mthis, like Carly Redd and
Roshanna like, come on, you'vebeen on these shows for how long
and you still ain't made itmainstream.
Like, come on, who was Roshannafrom uh Love and Hip Hopanta?

(34:04):
Roshanna I think that's whatrashida, rashida, rashida, yeah,
yeah no, rashida, rashida, umis the thing.

Wes (34:13):
Rashida is a lot older than what we uh, what we think, uh,
very, very beautiful, I might uhadd.
But no, no, she's been onpastor troy's stuff, she's been
on Ludacris stuff.
I have some old, like old,albums of different artists and
she's on it.

DeLaw (34:29):
So she has done her thing but what I'm saying is that
everybody doesn't want to belike like cocaine from the west
side or sugar free, where youain't got no album.
You just known for being thefeatures in your voice.
You know what I in your voice.
You know what I'm saying yeah,you know what I'm saying.
At some point you, you, you tookon this role on loving hip-hop

(34:52):
atlanta or loving hip-hop orreal housewives or whatever, to
kind of expand, expand yourbrand and be able to be
marketable, to advance yourcareer.
If all you were going to do wasstay on this show just to make
this little bit of money you'remaking, when you could have made
a whole lot more getting intothat industry and going into
real acting, being able to getmoney, to be able to put it

(35:15):
somewhere, to double yourdollars, then what you want it
for, yeah, I'm not saying thatthey're not making their bread
because they're living good.
You know what I'm saying.
But look at Jim Jones andChrissy.
Jim Jones was a name alreadyand he was on there just to kind
of, in my opinion, kind ofre-get his career back on track,

(35:37):
get a little bit of notability.
And now they're off of there.
He's making his music, he'sinvesting in his stuff, he's
going on tours.
If you get that opportunity forthat platform you better make
it jump.
You better make it jump.
I don't care If every episodeyou're like I'm going to feature

(35:58):
one of my songs from my newalbum and that joint hit so
people can hear it.
Now you got free radio, play onyour TV show, somebody's going
to hear it.
Put it on the radio and thereyou go, like there's a way to
work that platform and none ofthem are doing it right because
I think they're just complacentwith.
I mean, mind you, I don't knowthe record industry and how

(36:21):
rough and rugged it is, butlooking at it from a press,
somebody from the outsidelooking in, that if you have
this platform and your, yoursongs are that good and if a dj
picks it up, anybody picks upand starts playing it somewhere.
That a record label or whateveror whoever ain't gonna be like,

(36:42):
all right, look, this song ishot, we gotta, we gotta sign
them.
We gotta try and get an albumout, we gotta, we gotta or this
producer, my like, hey, we gotta, we gotta do a song with her.
There's no way around it ifyou've got that hot song.
Yeah, I mean bobby's murder.
Yeah, all them youtube rappers.

(37:02):
Who was that?
Tyler Tyler?
You know what I'm saying yougot all these people who just
had a hot song somewhere and nowthey made it and they didn't
have the same exposure to peoplefrom love and hip hop.
Yeah, I mean, she's a littleolder.
She's a little older, I giveher that, but for how young she

(37:26):
looks, she can get away with it.
I don't know about that, Ithink.
So I think she can get awaywith it Now, but I will say that
was back then.
She ain't getting away with itnow.
They damn near half naked andwhat she probably rapping about,
she ain't rapping about thatsame thing.
She got lyric lyrics for real,yeah.

(37:48):
Yeah, just trying to make aparty track.
But that's how you get into theindustry.
You make a party track,something that people can dance
to, and then you can put outyour real serious shit.

Wes (37:57):
You know what I'm saying, you know yeah so, yo, we were
talking about the show Medusa,right, and when we were talking
about it, I just so happened tocome across this article.
It's not even what we'retalking about, but hey, since
you were talking about Medusaand you know over relationships,

(38:20):
I came across this article said35 naughty slang terms from the
world of kink explained.
So we won't run through this 35, right quick, and we won't see
if you know these.
I can guarantee I don't knowthese shorts and I haven't
looked at it.
I just look at the, the, theheadline and shit it's going to

(38:43):
be a lot of these.
I don't know either.
I just found out what doggingis.
I don't know what that is, but24-7 is the first one 24-7?

DeLaw (38:52):
Mm-hmm, I don't know.
I take 24-7 as always open.

Wes (38:59):
This is in a kinked context .
24-7 relationships allowparticipants to remain in their
roles all the time.
That's in addition to beingsubmissive and bid.
A sub may be submissive when itcomes to everyday things like
housework, non-sexualinteractions with their dominant
partner.
So wait, first off, what is akink?

(39:19):
Just like a thing that kind ofyou get uh, that you get off on,
basically oh okay, that's notthe norm.

DeLaw (39:28):
Quote unquote so if I get off on on my wife cleaning yes,
that's a kink of yours, yeahall right, I'm catching up.
You know, uh, I'm almost 40, soyou know these new terms.

Wes (39:40):
They come so quickly this is not the king, is not a new
term.
24-7, all this shit is probablygoing to be new to me, and that
might not even be a new term.
It just might be one of thosethings where I'm not in that
world and you know what I mean.
So 24-7 is one.
So let's just say if the guywas submissive and the wife was
dominant, then you got to stayin that role 100% of the time.

(40:06):
Now, depending on the type ofdominant quote, if the roles are
reversed, dominant woman she'sgonna be, but like she's gonna
be slapping them in the mouth.
Because it seems like everytime I see these little videos
or whatever online, because youmight see, like I seen a video
on uh instagram where a dude wasjust walking around a walmart
on all fours, didn't have alittle gimp costume on or
nothing, but but she had a leashon her At Walmart.
So that's what I'm saying.

DeLaw (40:33):
So the next one is called Africa.
Let me guess this is if you'renot 24 hours and you stay too
late and don't go home.

Wes (40:42):
Nah.
So it says uh, sounds likecuddling.
It is.
That's what it says.
It can be emotionally intenseand recommended practice for
engagement and its epic care.
This may take many formscuddling, talking, offering your
seeing partner food or water,or seeing partner or otherwise
helping them feel emotionallysecure.

(41:03):
Essentially, it's aboutremaining present and attentive
to the needs present.
I don't think that's a king.
I think that's what you'resupposed to do.
You know what I mean.
Yo, you want a sandwich Boom.

DeLaw (41:17):
Hey babe, we just finished.
You want some aftercare?

Wes (41:21):
Hey, do that.

DeLaw (41:25):
Let me know what happens.
What the hell is aftercare,nigga, after we had sex.
I'm caring after care.

Wes (41:33):
Next one is bdsm.
You know what that is.
You said b what bdsm you knowwhat that is?

DeLaw (41:40):
B-D-S-M.
Yeah, yeah, yeah, Dick's Momman.

Wes (41:50):
Yo, he said that Bondage and discipline, dominance and
submission, oh, you know whatthat means just from what I said
.

DeLaw (42:02):
I know what it means, but I never heard the acronym.

Wes (42:05):
All right, this one's a little weird Blood play.
Oh God, so period sex.
No, cutting the skin in orderto bleed, god damn, alright,
period sex.
The next one Brat and brattamer.
Is it rat and brat Brat LikeB-R-A-T?

DeLaw (42:25):
Brat and brat.

Wes (42:26):
Uh, I don't know brats are typically bottoms who are not
straightforwardly submissive.
They enjoy being difficult,mischievous or otherwise
challenging toward their doms,slash tops and forcing them into
use the full extent of theirstrength or intensity to

(42:47):
discipline the brat oh, sopretty much acting like a brat.

DeLaw (42:51):
Yeah, I've done that before where a chick's like a
brat putting your head in thepillow, that's regular shit.
I've done that before where achick's like why you got your
head up.
Nah, put the right in the backof the neck and say don't move,
and you die that might be calledsomething else.

Wes (43:06):
We'll see.
Abuse, yo CBT.

DeLaw (43:14):
CBT, cb, cbt, cbt, hmm, I don't know.

Wes (43:21):
Cock and ball torture.
We're going to skip over that.
Let's skip over that.
You got that self-explanatory.
We got CNC, cnc, cnc, cnc orCNT.

DeLaw (43:35):
Cnt cat nose cat CNC C-N-C, c-n-c or.

Wes (43:37):
C-N-T.
C-n-t.
Cat, nose cat.
I don't know why I said nose.
You said like scissor.
That's not what I asked.
I said C-N-C.

DeLaw (43:46):
Oh, because you said cat, nose, cat.

Wes (43:50):
No, that's not what it is.

DeLaw (43:53):
It's consensual, non-consent, consensual non
consent, consensual non consent.
So it's consensual that we'regoing to do this.
There's no consent because I'mabout to put it somewhere.
You don't want it.

Wes (44:02):
Wow, it could be anything.
I'm just doing whatever thefuck I want to do.
But basically it's likeencounters where participants
act out violating scenes orbehaviors with their partners,
their, their pre-establishedconsent and boundaries with.
So it's more or less like Ialready know what you like and

(44:26):
I'm just going.
You heard what I said.

DeLaw (44:28):
Yeah, sounds like with me and my wife, I'd be like, hey,
what's up your house at home?
No, come on, let's do this realquick.
Oh my gosh, you got a.

Wes (44:46):
DS, which is dominant submissive.
You know what that is, thisshit.
This is where it kind of getsweird for me.
You got dom pro dom.
Dominatrix is a sex worker.
This is where it kind of getsweird for me.
You got Dom Pro Dom Dominatrix.
There's a sex worker whoprovides kink-related services
to clients.
You know what that is?
You got what?

(45:06):
Damn.
That's a weird one.
I almost don't know what youwant to say.
Ddlg.

DeLaw (45:14):
DDLG.

Wes (45:15):
Yep, daddy, dom, little Girl.
Oh, I'm just going to skip overthat Dungeon.
You can already guess what thatis.
I already know.

DeLaw (45:29):
Okay, e-stem, e STEM I checked the E-STEM in the teams.
E-stem Yep.

Wes (45:38):
I checked the E-stem in the things Electrical stimulation.
I don't know where your mind isat Sex.

DeLaw (45:47):
Edge play.

Wes (45:48):
Oh, I've seen that in blowjob porn Okay.
Fend them, bend them over.
No, fin, fin, fin vend them?

DeLaw (46:00):
uh, I don't know financial domination triple G.
You just throw money at themand fuck them on the money.

Wes (46:09):
I see what this shit actually say.
I'm just skipping over thesebitches because it's like ugh,
uh has become the popular 21stcentury and it's easier than
ever to send other people money.
Financial dons may engage andoffend them remotely with subs
or, I think, video calls,berating them and commanding
them to send the money.
You know, women are cleaning up, so basically it's like a woman

(46:33):
calling you worthless piece ofshit, whatever, whatever,
whatever.
Send me some money, bitch, andthen they send the money.
I need to do that.
You want me doing that to dudes.
You're not doing that to me.

DeLaw (46:46):
Nah, but you got to do it to the cougars, who won't give
it to you.
You got to be nice to them.
So what I'm going to get fromit sugar.

Wes (46:54):
I don't know.
So you got triple G short forgood.
Giving and gain.
What is this man?
It describes an approach,typically to partner sex, where
people prioritize being good askill level, giving a generous
lover and gain Exploration orexperiment with partner's
desires and fantasies.

(47:15):
That ain't a kink Golden shower.
You know what that is.
Arkelium R limits, soft limits,meaning and boundaries that can
be pushed against the rightcircumstances.
We know that Impact play.
You don't know what that is.
It's not going to die to hitBoom On the ass.

DeLaw (47:36):
The ass, yeah uh, hard enough that your sack hits it's,
it's the uh, their ass.
That means you're getting inthere nice and deep here's one.

Wes (47:46):
You probably heard munch um .

DeLaw (47:50):
Is that vaginal oral sex?

Wes (47:53):
m, mm-mm.
Munches are a means of meetingup with the fellow kinky people
from a given area in adistinctively non-sexual setting
, often to share a meal.
Hence the name.

DeLaw (48:05):
So go on a date.
You know, these kinks soundlike regular shit now Pegging.

Wes (48:14):
You know what that is?
That's regular play, beingspanked, shit like that.
Play party, play together.
It's not called an orgy.
It's called a play party.
No, it's called an orgy.
Rack, consensual kink damn.

DeLaw (48:33):
So it's not a nice titties.
No, it's not a nice titties,nah, it's not a nice rack Red,
yellow, green Stoplight?

Wes (48:41):
Yeah, boundaries don't play Dominant shit.
I almost said the wrong wordRigger and rope, bunny Rope,
bondage, basically Roman shower.
Whoa, what Was that shit?
Nah, vomit Instead of pee Safeword.

(49:07):
We know what that is.

DeLaw (49:10):
Seen.
We know what that is.
Is it vomit on their body?
Or is it just like a chicktrying to deep throat and they
just so happen to vomit?

Wes (49:15):
Nah, I've caused that to happen before.
I've had that.
Yeah, that happened to me onetime, it's like bitch.

DeLaw (49:23):
You got throw up on me.
The fuck is wrong with you.

Wes (49:27):
Listen, there's a lot of them.
Vanilla unicorn switch that'sSC Safe's consensual.
Unicorn switch that's SC Safe'sconsensual.
All this stuff that seems likethe same Splooshing.
What do you think splooshing is?
Splooshing?
Yup?
Cleaning their fucking?
Nope.
Smushing food items off one'sbody oh my God.
Or other words, rubbing a spoonon another person Splooshing.

(49:49):
I wouldn't mind a splooshing.

DeLaw (49:51):
Oh my gosh, I just need my born dog married life at this
point, yo the sploosh might be.

Wes (49:59):
You know what I mean.

DeLaw (50:00):
Something y'all do that.
Should have been my wife'smouth, man Eat that and gargle.

Wes (50:05):
No, no, sploosh.
No, that's not what I said.
It's food items, food items,food items, like you might throw
a cupcake on her or some shitlike that.

DeLaw (50:15):
Shit, shit, be mad, I ain't playing with her.

Wes (50:17):
Hey, y'all don't do it at home because y'all got to clean
it up.
Y'all do it in one of thetimeshares.
Man look.

DeLaw (50:22):
It costs too much money to be having just to be throwing
food at each other.

Wes (50:26):
Yeah, you're right, man, who's spooching out here food
products and shit.
Yeah, man, I shared when he wastelling me that when he saw my
medusa and shit I was just likeyo.
I don't know man.
I feel like a part of me feelslike yo, not the kink shit, but
people.
I think sometimes people justbe bored in life and they be

(50:47):
looking for excitement and otheruh avenues and they they bring
people into the shit that theydon't need to bring into the
thing.
Like that whole.
Yo I want to open a marriagetype shit.
It's like yo come on, man.
Because like think about it.
She needed a hobby.

DeLaw (51:06):
Yeah, I get it.
You're like, oh, it's been 20years, I don't get it.
I don't know, but you going tobring something else in?

Wes (51:15):
yo think about, think about , think about, think about,
think about you playing 2k allday or whatever.
Have you like?
You got not all day, but yougot your hobbies, you're doing
your thing.
The one thing you can't wait todo is just like all right, let
me go upstairs or let me, youknow, see what you're doing, and
this, this and that some peopleand or women it's just more or
less like they don't be doingnothing with their day they work

(51:36):
, they watch TV, they be boredand they be bored thinking we're
the cause of the boredom, orthis, this and that, or we need
to do more.
You still do more and nothinghappens.
No, you a boring motherfucker.
That's the issue.

DeLaw (51:50):
It's like oh, you don't want to hang out with me.
You sit in bed watching TV.
Am I just supposed, if I'm uphere, I'm going to fall asleep
right like when you're up here,yeah, like you don't, you know?
Oh, you know, you don't want tospend no time with me.
You're watching your TV show andyou sleep, you're happy like

(52:12):
she didn't go to bed till like 2o'clock last night.
I'm like so you're going to bedand watch this show?
She's like why?
I said it's a yes or noquestion.
Why Is TV too loud?
I said yes or no question.
I'm like, well, I'm not reallytired.
I said, okay, that's fine, Iget a blink.
I go downstairs.
She's like oh my lord, you needme to turn the, you know.

Wes (52:30):
I said no, you already do your thing, I'll move you down
here.

DeLaw (52:34):
I'm like, you took a nap today.
You know, from like 4 to 8 Ididn't take no nap.

Wes (52:40):
You go out of weight don't you hate when your wife take a
nap?
Man?

DeLaw (52:46):
I'm like you go out of weight.
I'm tired and you already wokeme up once with like trying to
pinch my nipple, so I'm trying.
And you already woke me up oncewith like trying to pinch my
nipple, so I'm going down likejust off the humble, just like I
want to see what he's doinglike I'm just asleep.
I'm like, what are you doing?
I couldn't resist it.
Like I'm going bye, like ohyou're being dramatic?

(53:11):
No, I'm not.

Wes (53:12):
I'm trying to sleep you know, anytime that, like my wife
can't fall asleep or some shitlike that, I'm knocked out.
I usually random times.
I just roll over and I just seethe blue glow on her face from
the phone and shit and herlaughing cause all she's doing
is looking at the reels andlaughing all night.
I'm like yo, you need to go tobed.

(53:33):
I am, I am, I am, I am, I am.
And I just hear her secretlylike I'll just be, like I was,
like your ass should never havetook that goddamn nap.

DeLaw (53:48):
She'll get up and use the bathroom and then she can't go
back to sleep and I'll be tryingto explain to her.
I said you went to bed at 9o'clock.
Yeah, you woke up at 3.30.

Wes (53:59):
That's a damn day and a half you're sleeping already
good, yeah, you already didseven hours.

DeLaw (54:04):
You did about six, seven hours.
Your body not letting you goback to sleep is his way of
saying that you up, you up.
If your body was still tired,you're going back to sleep, but
you went to bed at nine.
So that's 10, 11, 12, 1, 2, 3that's six hours of sleep that's
the minimum your body needs,your body ready to rock and roll

(54:24):
now.

Wes (54:25):
Yeah my body be ready to rock and roll at six, giving it
eight as a cherry on top, forreal, for real.

DeLaw (54:32):
My body's ready to rock at 6 o'clock am every day.
Oh man, when I go to sleep, Igo to sleep and I wake up at 6
o'clock and I'm like alright,bro, do it?

Wes (54:43):
Speaking of sleep, this guy wants to know if he's the
asshole for playing video gamesinstead of going to bed.

DeLaw (54:48):
No, you didn't hear the story.

Wes (55:02):
I didn.
No, you didn't hear the story.
I need to hear the story.
So this guy he's 26, hisgirlfriend's 25.
They've been together for fourand a half years.
They're living together forthree.
They rarely fight in all andall.
They have a good relationship,so good that he plans on
proposing to her in a month orso.
He says we spend a good amountof quality time together on a
daily basis, watching our shows,shopping, anything else she
wants to do, but the bulk of thepressure in regards to the time

(55:28):
spent comes at night.
Due to our financial situation,I have to work 60 plus hours a
week in order to pay for ourlifestyle, our mortgage, things
for our dog, save up money forfuture children, etc.
The problem lies with the factthat I work a normal monday
through friday schedule, with alot of the saturdays being

(55:49):
mandatory ot, but I haveweekends off when not.
While she works Tuesday throughThursday God damn, that's not
even a scare.
She works Tuesday throughThursday and Sundays as a
waitress until she finds a jobto utilize her degree from
college.
Due to this, saturday nightsare typically my only night to

(56:10):
have a couple of hours to myselfdoing whatever.
It is like I I, I mean it is Ilike to do.
It is what I like to do whileshe sleeps in preparation for
her work day.
What I must have.
Something, whatever it is, Ilike to do while she sleeps in

(56:30):
preparation for her work day.
Okay, whatever, usually justincludes video games and a
couple beers until I get tiredand head to bed.
She is always upset at the factthat I never go to bed, with her
saying she has trouble sleepingalone, even though I'm just in
the living room adjacent to ourbedroom.
The situation has been aconsistent I'm sorry.

(56:52):
The situation has beenconsistent.
It has led to the has led totonight, where we are going to,
where we got into an argumentwhere I decided to turn
everything off and make it veryapparent that she had gotten her
way and I will just, and Iwould just go to bed with her,
even though the two to fourhours I spend is my only time I

(57:12):
have to spend doing entirelywhat I want to do after every
week of me consistently puttingin 60 hours at work Damn, he's
writing kind of crazy To providethe life that she wants.
She got upset and called me anasshole for not wanting to lay
with her while she sleeps.

(57:33):
She got upset and called me anasshole for not wanting to lay
with her while she sleeps andthat she knows I will be upset
if the shoe was on the other hewon't.
This is entirely false and Iactually encourage her to do
things she enjoys.
If I go to bed throughout theweek before her, I don't know.
I guess I am just fed up withhaving the same bickering match

(57:55):
every single week when I feellike she doesn't understand the
stress I put myself under forher to have the majority of what
she has.
I know I don't have to do that,but I want to be able to
provide that for her and wishshe could appreciate that enough
to understand I need a couplehours a week to decompress.

(58:19):
I need a couple hours a day.
But I also see, where she mayfeel upset, that I would rather
spend my time doing anythingelse than with her, as I love
her dearly.

DeLaw (58:32):
Sounds like a regular relationship.
Hell yeah, yeah, it do so, no,don't blame her.

Wes (58:42):
I don't either.
Actually, and this is just oneof those things where it's just
like yo, we've been together forthree years, we've been
together for four years, livingtogether for three.
Yo, I'm gonna need you to makea little bit more money so I can
be.
Well, that's not even.
That's not even the issue.
It's the fact that themandatory overtime shit yeah,
and he worked in 60 hours, 60hours a week is a lot Usually

(59:06):
work, you know that's, that'ssheesh, you working too much.

DeLaw (59:11):
See, my thing is and the reason that I said what I said,
like we just already spoke about, she works Tuesday, wednesday,
thursday and Sunday being aserver, right, mm-hmm.
So Monday, friday, saturday andTuesday.

(59:31):
So Monday, friday, saturdayshe's just at home chilling.
And she's chilling on the dayswhere she's like, oh and Tuesday
.
So Monday, friday, saturday,she's just at home chilling.
And she's chilling on the dayswhere she's like, oh, what's the
weekend?
We should all just hang out.
It's like, look, I just workMonday through Friday and then
on Sunday I got mandatoryovertime, so neither one of us
home and you want to take theone day.

Wes (59:48):
Not Saturday mandatory OT oh, saturday.
She works Tuesday throughThursday and on Sunday.

DeLaw (59:59):
You want to take the one time that I can relax and chill
and do something for myself andyou want to take that from me.

Wes (01:00:12):
My whole thing is yeah, that too.
Now that I'm thinking about it,let's just say, hypothetically,
he's given her that throughoutthe week.
For myself and you want to takethat from me my whole thing is
yeah, that's who.
And then I'm thinking about it,let's just say, hypothetically,
he's giving her that throughoutthe week.
Right, I can't have saturday.
I can't have saturday becausehe clearly didn't say yeah, you
gotta give me something like hesaid they fight every week.

(01:00:32):
So that means they fight aboutthe Saturday.
Show your breath.

DeLaw (01:00:35):
Yeah, show your breath, I get it.
I get the quality time thing Iget the quality time, but also
if I'm always at work andworking because you're not
bringing in enough money and Igotta fit the bill for
everything.
Look, I get it.

(01:00:57):
You want to go do something.
You want me to spend some moneyon you, but honestly, Saturday
night.

Wes (01:01:02):
She don't want him to spend money on you, she just want him
to be in the bed.

DeLaw (01:01:06):
I ain't getting in the bed.
I need time to myself.
Because, think of it this way Igo to work Sunday through
Friday or Monday throughSaturday, whatever day it is, I
get told what to do for eighthours.

Wes (01:01:25):
You're like.
You ain't telling me what to do, motherfucker.

DeLaw (01:01:27):
I get home on those days, you telling me what you want me
to do, I finally get a day tomyself where I can look at a
game, even though it's tellingme what to do.
It ain't telling me what to do,because I can do whatever I
want to do.
Now you want me to do what youwant me to do and lay in the bed
and do nothing but watch TV.

(01:01:49):
You didn't even entice me withwell, I'm going to come
downstairs, I'm going to suckthe shit out of your dick until
you get off the game and thenyou're going to fuck my brains
out when we get upstairs.
You didn't entice me withsomething that might be like
okay, alright, I can live withthat.
I want you to come get in thebed.
What are we getting in the bedfor?
We doing something?

(01:02:09):
Nah, I just want you to.
Nah, you're good, I'll sitright here on this game what the
fuck wrong with you?

Wes (01:02:17):
shoot, that's that I would.
I would.
I would say yo just lay in abed until you fall asleep, but
then you run the risk of fallingasleep yourself.
I've tried that numerous times.
I'm not doing that, no more.
I personally do not do that, nomore.

DeLaw (01:02:32):
I'm like oh, you going to bed, okay.
I personally do not do that nomore.
Oh, you're going to bed, okay.
Where are you going?
Downstairs, downstairs, yeah,go to sleep.
No, no, I'm up, I'm up, I'm up,don't let me fall asleep.
If you guys tell me don't letyou fall asleep, clearly, go to
go to bed, we'll still bemarried tomorrow, it's alright,
but I mean, I don't want to bein here by myself.
You've been in this room duringthe day by yourself.

(01:02:53):
What is being in here atnighttime by yourself going to?

Wes (01:02:57):
do yeah.

DeLaw (01:02:59):
It's that shit that I've been like.
Come on, Make it make sense.

Wes (01:03:04):
Yeah, I mean.
Listen the way I see it.
If you're working 60 plus hoursa week in order to pay for the
lifestyle that's the key thingSay hey, if you want more time
with me, you have to allow me tohave more time In order to get

(01:03:26):
you with all these things.
I have to do this Now.
If you don't want to do this,if you don't want to work more
or pick up some extra shifts asa waitress, then you're like
this is what it's going to be.
Yeah, there's no other way.
Now.
You either like me for me orlike me for what I can provide.
And her next choice and thenext things that she say will

(01:03:47):
determine if she likes him forhim or she likes the fact that
he can provide.
And at that point the answerbecomes something Y'all not even
married.
Y'all ain't got no kids.

DeLaw (01:03:58):
You 26, my boy, yeah, you got a full life.

Wes (01:04:02):
Eddie, she do too.
You know what I mean.
She'll bounce back.

DeLaw (01:04:07):
She can find her, somebody that goes to the bar to
just want to crank her a coupleof times.

Wes (01:04:11):
Or just go to bed when she's ready to go to bed.
But at the same time Iunderstand the sentiment.
Like yo, I sleep so comfortablywith you and I can't go to
sleep on Saturdays when you are.
I get that, but I feel like itshould be a little bit more
compassionate on her part.
Like yo, you are, providing Ican thug this out.

DeLaw (01:04:35):
I mean, that's just what's we're thinking for us at
that point.
Yeah, you know, it sounds good.

Wes (01:04:44):
What is it?
Is it actually going to happen?
Probably not.
But that whole ultimatum ofpick up more shifts, or let me
do me what is the likelihoodshe'll pick up more shifts?

DeLaw (01:05:04):
She working four days already?
Not likely, because sheprobably like her days off.

Wes (01:05:09):
Exactly so it seems like to me I might have got a little
bit too much time on.
It Goes back to me saying it'djust be.
Nah, I'm just joking, but she,I mean I get it because I you
know, my wife don't usuallydon't go to bed until I'm ready,
and I was playing Call of Dutylast night till like two, one

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o'clock in the morning.
So I come upstairs, she's likeyou ready, you going to bed.
I'm like, yeah, she's like allright, bet she's.
You know, she heard TV ready togo to bed.
So I literally, I literallyunderstand that.
But she got to understand theother side of that too.

DeLaw (01:05:46):
Yeah.

Wes (01:05:47):
My boy, you're not the asshole, she's just.
She's stuck in her ways andbeing a brat.
If she is a reasonable one andshe loves you, you should be
able to work that out really,really fast right really really
fast but, but they also young,so I don't know.

DeLaw (01:06:06):
Yeah, they young, they got ways to go mm-hmm, what on
that note?

Wes (01:06:15):
could've been worse?
Huh, they got ways to go.
Mm-hmm, what On that note?
It could be worse.
Huh, it could be worse.
Fuck yeah, it could be worse Onthat note.
I don't know.
Don't move in with your girl.
I don't know.
I don't know what to say.
I don't know what to say.
I don't know what to say.
If she the one for you, man,that shit should be resolved.

DeLaw (01:06:39):
Swift Shit.

Wes (01:06:42):
If she the one for you, I'm feeling like she not, but I
don't know y'all, I don't knowy'all, and I'm feeling like she
not.
Anyway, we thank everybody fortuning in and see you next time.