Wes& DeLaw | Passive Simping

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We introduce the concept of "passive simping" - knowingly acting like a simp to get what you want - and discuss how this strategy plays out in everything from casual dating to marriage.

Episode Transcript

Wes (00:00):
All these other people selling their a**hole out here.
I refuse, I'm too old for that.

DeLaw (00:06):
Look what I'm trying to say.
You ain't going to be sellingyour a**hole, you're selling
your d**k.
Why feel this way?

Wes (00:11):
You got to get nah, but if you got to get, you got to get
butt a**.
There's going to be some girllike let me see your a**hole,
and she might tip for you toshow that I have, as you guys
show it, she's holding up a 50.
She's like yo, I'm spreadingthe fuck.
Yeah, I don't want to be put inno situation like that, where

(00:33):
I'm like you know what, Ithought I was going to be
swinging my helicopter.
I don't want to do that Exactly.
You don't think of those things.
You don't think of those things.

DeLaw (00:45):
You don't think of those things well.
I'm pretty sure 50's not enoughfor me to show my ass.
I don't want an extra price heylook, I'm gonna need a couple
of G's, and that's only for youto look at my ass.
Same thing I already gotta get.

(01:06):
Get prostate check, check, so.

Wes (01:11):
Yeah according to Wes' podcast, where we believe it is
good to be a good Samaritan andnot a good doormat as always.
Yeah, wes.

DeLaw (01:37):
You have.
You got the most loaded law,the devil's son-in-law in the
building.

Wes (01:53):
Yes, it's been a while.
It's been a while.
It's been a while I was, youknow, mother's Day passed.
How was your Mother's Day?
Nothing crazy happened, right.

DeLaw (02:04):
Not that I know of.

Wes (02:06):
What do you mean not that you know of?
You're celebrating your mamaand your wife.
What do you mean not that youknow of?

DeLaw (02:11):
Not that I know of.
And if it did, they didn't saynothing.

Wes (02:14):
You was drunk for most of it.

DeLaw (02:16):
I tried to be, tried to be, you tried, I mean that's a
chance name, that's a joke, Ithink when we got home we went,
got food, went to my mom's houseand came home I think I cooked
dinner.
I guess what did I make fordinner?
I think I made some ramen.

Wes (02:41):
That sounds like a couple noodle activity.
You ain't make ramen, you eat acouple noodles.
You do some chicken and an eggand then call it a day.

DeLaw (02:48):
I don't know.
That's a really good question.
No, you know what I did?
I fried some fish.
That's what I did.

Wes (02:54):
That's not bad.
I didn't cook shit.
I took my mom out to eat,though.

DeLaw (03:00):
I think the following weekend I made some ramen.
We saw this thing online.
Pretty much like I told you, Igot this thing called the Hookup
.
We just take some ramen, Likeyou said, throw an egg in there,
onions, hot sauce, whatever.
I was like, well, why don't wejust make that?
She's like okay, Do some pepper, do some cilantro, do some

(03:24):
shrimp, do some chicken broth,do some shrimp packets in there,
do the noodles in there, waitfor it to be done, pull it out,
keep it rolling.

Wes (03:32):
I ain't gonna lie, I've been doing that for the last
couple months.
That is my new struggle meal.
Not that I'm struggling, butit's one of those things I'm
struggling to cook.
You get what I mean.
I'm like, nah, even though it'sprocessed chicken or whatever,
I have I'm pretty sure Somefrozen grilled chicken strips
and shit, yeah, chicken strips,throw them, bitches, in the
microwave, boil an egg I'meating in less than six minutes.

DeLaw (03:57):
I did that in.
I went and got some shrimp.
Mind you, all they do is takethe frozen shrimp, throw it in
the thing.
I'm not, I wouldn't have gotsome shrimp.
Now, mind you, all they do istake the frozen shrimp, throw it
in the thing.

Wes (04:08):
Yeah, exactly, I'm not going to sit here and saute them
bitches just to throw them inthere.
I might just cook an oldgoddamn situation if I'm doing
that.

DeLaw (04:16):
I didn't have to wait all day for the shrimp to defrost
or whatever.
They already did the processfor me.
You know what I'm saying.
So I was like, all right,instead of buying this bag for
$11.99, that's two pounds, not$11.99.
Let's say the bag costs like$11, $12, $13, right, yeah, and
I wouldn't get those two pounds.
They won't give it to me onsale for $2 cheaper anyway, why

(04:40):
not?

Wes (04:40):
Yeah, why not?

DeLaw (04:41):
And then go home, peel them off.
My wife hates to tail on themotherfuckers, do she?
Yeah, she's like oh, I alwayspull the tail off, so I get
shrimp They've already frostedfor me and peel them things so
she can just eat and go.

Wes (04:57):
Mm.

DeLaw (04:58):
Damn man.

Wes (05:00):
Shit ramen all the way.
What a way these prices are.
It's filling, you get yourcarbs.
You make sure you throw yourown protein in that motherfucker
.

DeLaw (05:10):
Yep, oh, protein and everything.
You're tired.
Look, I'm about to be.
I'm trying to put drunk andtired in the same sentence.
Frunk, yeah, frunk.

Wes (05:31):
Or crunk up in this motherfucker Shit.
I'm tired of myself Findingwhere to go see Sinners last
night with my wife how was that.

DeLaw (05:39):
It was pretty good, pretty good.
Did you see it in?

Wes (05:46):
theaters, or should I wait, I don't know.
I feel like so.
Remember when we were younger,maybe like our early 20s, like
going to the movies or evenscenes going to like 24, going
to the movies was an event Likeyou wanted to go just because
you wanted to hear the people inthe theater react the way you
wanted them.
I mean to certain things, notthe way you wanted to go just
because you wanted to hear thepeople in the theater react the
way you wanted.
To One of them I mean tocertain things, not the way you

(06:08):
wanted them to react, but youwanted to react to the reactions
and feel that energy and shit.
Even though the movie's beenout for maybe like two weeks now
, I still got that experiencefrom the movie, from people in
the theater.
So I was just like damn and inmy head I'm driving home and
sharing with my wife I'm likedamn.
So does that mean this was legita good movie Because people

(06:30):
have been saying it's a goodmovie?
But you know, sometimes blackpeople will say it's a good
movie because Can it be trash?
Yeah, because it's black peoplein the movie, I'm just like I
can honestly say it's a goodmovie.
Should I can honestly say it'sa good movie.
Should you wait I mean, it'sprobably about to be on a song

(06:51):
soon, because you know what Imean Because it's been out for
like three weeks now and I thinkI'd say go, you ain't gonna
waste your time.
It's not a time-wasting movie.

DeLaw (07:01):
I'm gonna give you three movies and you can tell me if
it's close to better than, orwhat about seeing these movies?

Wes (07:08):
Genethese 2.

DeLaw (07:10):
I didn't see the movie, Okay then we'll throw that one
out, the Equalizer 3.

Wes (07:16):
Never seen any one of them.
What See?
Here's the thing with me andyou.

DeLaw (07:21):
I got one more.
I got one more.
What Vantage Point?
What?

Wes (07:25):
are you saying?

DeLaw (07:26):
Man, you ain't seen none of the good shit.

Wes (07:29):
No, the thing with me and movies is like I got such a back
catalog of movies to watch LikeI keep.
I say this all the time Likegoing to college I was locked in
.
Locked in.
It was just more or less likestudy.

DeLaw (07:41):
I guess Vantage Point was college.

Wes (07:44):
I'm just saying in general that mentality never left.
So it's kind of like I'm notgetting up to go to the movies
and I'd rather watch like adocumentary or whatever, or just
try to figure out.
I'm doing other stuff with myentertainment rather than
watching movies.

DeLaw (07:59):
Did you at least see Den of Thieves 1?
I've seen the first one.

Wes (08:02):
I liked the first one.
Okay, so this is better thanDen of Thieves 1.

DeLaw (08:06):
Yes, Okay, I'm just trying to gauge it.
Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.
Den of Thieves 1 was actuallyreally good.
Surprisingly, yeah, den ofThieves 1 was the greatest of
actors, but he pulled it off.

Wes (08:23):
I like the premise and the switch up in one.
Yes, what do you call it?
Is it called a switch up?
I don't know what youtechnically call that shit the
reveal, I guess.

DeLaw (08:33):
I don't know, he realized that he was the orchestrator.
Yeah, yeah, actually, if youreally want to be a good
criminal, you always want to bea good criminal.
You never.
You always want to look likethe weak link, but be the one
always pulling the strings wellhe was.
You want to be able tomanipulate people is what you

(08:54):
probably getting that becausethey viewed him as the weak link
, because he was just a but onlyone person knew, his knew he
was the one pulling the stringsyeah, and that was a guy that
was his number two who did therecruiting.

Wes (09:09):
Yeah.

DeLaw (09:11):
Yeah, did the recruiting like, oh yeah, these people come
to the bar or whatever.
They line them up.
But yeah, I mean he a bartender, so no one's.
In reality, if I was looking athim as a cop, he's a bartender,
so no one's they're looking at.
You know, in reality, if I waslooking at him as a cop, all
right, he's a bartender.
He's probably just looking forsome extra money.

(09:32):
He got some, some theftfelonies on here, so that means
he's probably just a wheel man.
He ain't nobody super important.
Versus really looking at it andbeing able to realize, this
motherfucker is reallyorchestrating and manipulating
everybody.

Wes (09:51):
I like movies like that.
They give me a good plot twistand not feeling like it has to
be a plot twist just because youneed to throw in a plot twist,
like when stuff is, it wasn'tshoehorned in.
Even with this Sinners lastnight, I didn't feel like
anything was shoehorned in.
And even with this uh centerslast night uh, I didn't feel
like anything was shoehorned in.
I was engaged all the waythrough.
I went at nine o'clock and ifanybody knows me at this age

(10:13):
that I am right now, I will fallasleep in a movie theater
during that time, if the shit is.
You know cause my body issitting down and relaxing.
It's dark age.

DeLaw (10:25):
I want you know because my body is sitting down and
relaxing.
It's dark.
If I didn't engage, I wouldn'tsleep.

Wes (10:26):
Especially if I had already had a drink, yeah, food.

DeLaw (10:28):
Oh, that's game over.

Wes (10:30):
Me and wifey went in there with two McChickens.
I ordered a large popcorn.
She got herself an Icy.

DeLaw (10:36):
It was a good night.
You made sure you covered it upso that they wouldn't just let
them check your bag.

Wes (10:41):
I mean listen, it wasn't her purse, so nobody checking
her bag.

DeLaw (10:48):
Anyway, that's what we do .
We take all our other snacksand we just get something that
is like okay, they broughtsomething from here.
Okay, it's just a more three.
They only really suspect you ifyou come in there and you got
that big ass purse.

Wes (11:00):
We ain't doing nothing crazy like bringing in a whole
entree, a three entree.
I've done that before in myyounger years.
Did you know those little bags?
You know those bags that womenbe having?
It's like a shoulder bag and itlook like the.
It's actually like a sack, Ashoulder bag.
You go over the shoulders likea sack and shit.
I don't know how to explainthat shit, but yeah, I've snuck

(11:26):
in a whole two plate entreesChipotle shit like that let's
see what my wife about to ask me.

DeLaw (11:32):
She asked if I'm home.

Wes (11:37):
You already know she about to ask something crazy anytime I
get the hey you busy, I'm like,oh shit.
Or hey you busy, I'm like ohshit, or can you.
Oh, hey you busy.
It's like you need to dosomething or can you do me a
favor.
It means I need some money orequipment.
I'm just like those are the twojoints and it's just like.
Whenever I hear those joints,I'm like man, I like doing this

(11:58):
shit.
Man, she wants a tropicalsmoothie?
Oh, she wants you if she?

DeLaw (12:07):
she asked if you want something.
That's what I'm asking her now.
Are you asking to see if Iwanted something?
I'll put a smiley face like ahey, that mistake with my wife.

Wes (12:22):
I should say something like that.
She was like you want me to getyou something?
I?
I'm like, yeah, I ain't got noextra money.
I think the thing is 15, blah,blah, blah.
I'm like what's the point ofasking?
If I want something, I'm payingfor it.

DeLaw (12:33):
Why not ask me I?

Wes (12:37):
ain't got it, you ain't got it Nah.

DeLaw (12:41):
I ain't got it.

Wes (12:46):
Congratulations you, congratulations.
You played yourself.
I don't want nothing then.

DeLaw (12:49):
Look, I'm surprised.
You guys said I was home.
I was home when you left.

Wes (12:53):
You said, you was what.

DeLaw (12:55):
I said I was surprised.
You guys said I was home.
I'm like, I was home when youleft, like Right.

Wes (13:01):
But you thought I had to go start your day.
You know what I mean.
Like, where am I going to go?
It ain't football season.

DeLaw (13:04):
I ain he About to go start your day.
You know what I mean.
Like, where am I going to go?
It ain't football season, Iain't got nowhere to go.

Wes (13:08):
True, I came out the womb saying hell to the Redskins, I
know.

DeLaw (13:13):
All the pitches they got on me.
It wasn't them from Philly.
You know, my people, my motherand them.
They from Philly.
I, um, they're my mom's a Skinsfan Um, my uncle and my aunt my
uncle my uncle that's a Bishopand my aunt that's in California
they're Eagles fans, but therest of them are all Redskins or

(13:34):
Raiders.
Um, now, the uncles that didn'tgrow up in the that, didn't you
know?
They married in.
They're all Skins fans.
So obviously, when I come outthe womb, all my pictures have
Redskins, Redskins, Redskins.
Came out the womb held someRedskins, yeah, yeah, yeah.
And the first sport I knew,oddly enough, was football.

(13:58):
That was the first sport Ireally kind of knew.
Yeah, when it came tobasketball, I didn't really
start watching basketball untilwe moved to Maryland from DC
Because, once again, when welived in DC, even though it was
right down the street Not rightdown the street, but you know it

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was close.
It was close.
I think I want to say it wasprobably up Once you got back on
not even going that way toSouth Dakota.

Wes (14:33):
If you go out, like you're trying to go out through 50,
east Capitol or whatever, CauseI'm thinking about thinking you
was staying at a different area,nevermind, you start saying
East Capitol, east.

DeLaw (14:45):
Capitol is the not close East.
Capitol is on the other side.
That's coming through downtownto.
The fastest way to get to whereI live was coming down 50 to
South Dakota and then turning.
I forgot which street you gotturning.
There's one street you turn onthat takes you to Children's
Hospital.
You just keep going until yourun into Canyon Street.
We live into Canyon Street,First Street.

(15:05):
Yeah, so we live on CanyonStreet.
So that's quite a bit of blocksaway from Howard University.

Wes (15:13):
Yeah, so I'm mixing your childhood with well, not your
childhood, but what you told mewith my childhood, because I was
right off of, at one point intime let's just say at one point
in time, let's just say at onepoint in time it was by the
Strim Bowl, Benning Road, theDenny's, where Cameron always
got robbed at.
That was the area that I was in.

(15:34):
So you know, just making thatright by the Denny's and keeping
it straight, you had RFK.

DeLaw (15:40):
Yeah, because RFK.
I'm not going to say you can'tget the RFK off 50, but it's not
the recommended way to go.
You can go down on this.

Wes (15:50):
You don't have to go down on 301 or 202.

DeLaw (15:53):
Yeah, just to run into it .
Yeah, not 301, 214.
214, if you take Central Avenueall the way down, you'll run
right into RFK.

Wes (16:03):
Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, because you're
.

DeLaw (16:07):
But the way that we had to get to our house, we I'm not
going to say we didn't pass RFKto go to certain places or to
come out to Maryland and seefamily and stuff, but it wasn't
the optimal route.
And then when we moved from DCto Maryland and we went to like

(16:28):
towards northeast, like ClayStreet, ben and Rue and all that
, we had to go past the stadiumBecause you know, going that way
down, coming all the way downand then going to like Minnesota
Avenue and all that, you prettymuch run right into RK.
But yeah, man, so I used towatch football.
Avenue and all that you'llpretty much run right into RK.
But yeah, I used to watchfootball.

(16:50):
We used to watch the Skins.
Doug Williams was playingquarterback when I started
watching it, like a little overtwo years old.
And so, yeah, a little over twoyears old, started watching
football.
Remember, a little over twoyears old, started watching
football.
Remember very little,apparently.
I told my stepfather got homefrom work, I told him who won

(17:12):
the game, who the MVP was andall of that.
So I was like, clearly I was avery intelligent, talkative
little boy, hey.
I take it, you know what I mean.
But when we got to Maryland myuncle got me into basketball and
that's how I really got intobasketball and the first team
and the only reason at any timethat I was a fan of this team is

(17:36):
because it was the first teamthat I ever saw on TV playing
basketball and it was this whiteboy, bad white boy, just
shooting jumpers, just cookingthem motherfuckers.
I think you might know the guy.
I think his name is Larry Bird.
I know the guy and I became aCeltics fan.

(17:56):
At first I became a basketballfan, but I originally became a
Celtics fan.

Wes (18:01):
So how the hell did you migrate over?
So I migrated over when I sawJordan, you're not winning me
over.
You're not a Chicago fan.

DeLaw (18:18):
So I went from a Celtics fan and wanted to be like Larry
Bird and shoot threes to seeingJordan and seeing how I'm just
getting in the basketball I'mstill young, I can kind of float
between it.
You know, I'm up there on thecourse doing the up and under,
hung all out, I'm doing all thisshit trying to beat Jordan, and
at that point I was still kindof a Celtics slash Bulls.
I wasn't really a Bulls fan, Iwas more of a Celtics fan then.

(18:39):
And then Larry Bird kind ofretired and I was young and I
kept watching Jordan so I becamea Bulls fan.
And then Jordan retired and Isaid man, fuck the Bulls too.
And then I seen this bad jumpshooter and the three-point
competition just knocking downthrees.
You might know the guy.
His name is Reggie Miller.

Wes (18:58):
I do know the guy.
My whole thing is I don'tunderstand how you stopped that.
I mean, I do understand how youstopped that Jordan on the way,
but when Larry Bird retired,Reggie Miller was in the league.
So why didn't you say, oh shit,Larry Bird is from Indiana, who
plays for Indiana.

DeLaw (19:16):
I never made the reference.
You know, I used to play onSega Genesis.
I used to play Bulls versusBlazers and I will only play as
the Bulls versus Lakers.
That was the very first one.
I used to play as Bulls versusLakers.
I only played as the Bulls, andthen sometimes it was either
the Bulls or the Suns.
I played as because I nevercould, because they, the ones
that had good shooters, were atJordan.
I never played as the Magicbecause I never played as the

(19:37):
Bulls.

Wes (19:37):
It wasn't Jordan.

DeLaw (19:38):
It wasn't Jordan no, no on this one.
This was Jordan Jordan.
Oh, it was so.
Everything before the firstretirement is Jordan Jordan,
like Bulls vs Blazers, bulls vsLakers.
Yeah, that's Jordan.
That's Jordan Jordan now do.
I don't know how that allworked, but Jordan had the up

(20:04):
and under little layup he didall the time, or he'd dunk on
people.
It might be Sega Genesis, so itain't, but so high tech it
ain't necessarily.

Wes (20:12):
You only get maybe two moves top of each way.

DeLaw (20:16):
And it was a little primitive a little bit, because
Super Nintendo had it, Sega hadit.
But then when they came outwith NBA Live so you remember
the NBA Live on Sega they were alittle bit better than Bulls
versus Blazers.
But the Bulls versus Blazersseries I want to say and I say

(20:38):
Blazers because they've hadmultiple games of it the very
first one I ever played wasbooze versus lakers, so it only
had the teams that made theplayoffs.
It didn't have any teams thatdidn't make the playoffs that
year.
So in the particular game I hadwhen I had booze versus blazers
, the clippers made the playoffs.
So I got to play as theclippers and played as danny

(21:00):
manning and you know other.
You know other players likethat.
So I kind of that's how I kindof got really into basketball
based on video games.
So then Jordan retired, SawReggie Miller, I wanted to see
what team he played for.
I almost became a Heat fan.
Honestly, I almost became aHeat fan.

Wes (21:24):
Oh, you know what's crazy I gotta.
You just reminded me of anotherreason why I chose the Celtics,
but I'll let you finish yeah, Ialmost became.

DeLaw (21:34):
I almost became a Heat fan because of um Glenn Rice
yeah, I almost became a Heat fanbecause of Glenn Rice, because
he was a good shooter too.
I stuck with the Pacers andReggie.
I've been with the Pacers eversince.

Wes (21:53):
You know what's crazy?
I should have became a Heat fanbecause when I was younger I
went to Sherman Douglasbasketball camp, I think he went
to.
I went to Sherman Douglasbasketball camp, I think he went
to.
I forget what high school hewent to, but I was in the
basketball camp.
I got a picture with him too.
Then, when he went to theleague, I think Miami had

(22:15):
drafted him.
He didn't stay in the leaguelong, but Miami had drafted him.

DeLaw (22:19):
Sherman Douglas was in the league, pretty decent all
the time.

Wes (22:23):
Was he.

DeLaw (22:24):
Yeah, Sherman Douglas.

Wes (22:26):
Yeah, and then he played for the Celtics for a brief
moment as well.

DeLaw (22:31):
He played for the Celtics .

Wes (22:33):
He's from here, yeah yeah, yeah, let me see something.

Speaker 3 (22:38):
He played for like 12 years Heat.

DeLaw (22:41):
Boston Bucks, jersey Clippers Nets.

Wes (22:47):
Yeah.

DeLaw (22:47):
It'd be some wrong time.
So, yeah, no, I thought ShermanDouglas was pretty good,
because on NBA Jam I played withSherman Douglas and Dee Brown.
Yeah, yeah.

Wes (23:06):
Well, yeah, that's another reason why.
So, yeah, my shit is prettystraight.
You know, cut and dry.
Ain't nobody going to call meno bandwagon, whatever I'm like,
I got the history.
I even got pictures to prove it.

DeLaw (23:25):
Hey man, sherman Douglas D Brown.
Yeah, hey man.
Hey, it is what it is.

Wes (23:40):
I'm going to say two words to you and you tell me what you
think they mean.
Hold on, first of all, let meactually type this in to see if
I ain't make this, uh, if I madethis up or if I got this from
somebody, because I'll be doingthat sometimes I'll be like, oh,
I heard this from someplace andI thought I made.
I definitely heard seen thissomewhere before.
Let me see some hold up, holdup, hold up.

(24:03):
Maybe I didn't, I'm just tryingto make sure it ain't in Urban
Dictionary or something we'regoing to have to get some of
these words in Urban Dictionaryand or Webster's.

(24:24):
I think you could put an entryin.
Alright, fuck it.
I apologize if somebody elsecame up with it before me, but I
feel like I did and I ain'tseen it nowhere.
But these are the two wordspassive simp what a passive simp
yeah hmm, interesting.

DeLaw (24:46):
Okay, I don't know a simp , dad don't know he a simp or he
just don't give a shit morethan ever so what?

Wes (25:04):
I would me those two words to me, because I quote, unquote,
I came up with this fuckingmeaning, at least I think I did
is someone that knows thatthey're simping.
So you, they not really a simp,they doing it for the how could

(25:28):
I put it the benefit of themfor the reason that you're
supposed to do it.
yes, lying basically for thispassive simping right benefit of
them.
For the reason that you'resupposed to do it yes, lying
basically, but it's passive,something right.
When I was thinking about thatshit I was like, yeah, I
definitely partake in that shitnow, like I definitely partake
in it, I definitely did it whenI was younger.

(25:48):
Like you know the shit.
Like, oh, you know, I know yougot kids, I'm just trying to
look out, blah, blah, blah.
Y'all need you know, little manneeds some cereal and milk and
stuff like that.
What's the type of cereal shethinking she getting a good dude
, this, this and that, like helooking out.
But it's like, nah, I haveulterior motives I got a

(26:11):
completely weird definition ofsomething.

DeLaw (26:14):
I feel like I had this conversation with somebody
already and I'm still not.
You know me and my ignorance,so I always think these
terminologies come from fromwomen.

Wes (26:32):
I can tell you that did not come from a woman you can think
of.

DeLaw (26:40):
Well, for the sake of my argument for what I said to this
person.
I looked at something as aterminology for a guy that
another woman wants and sees hewants someone else and sees he's
being used, but she thinks he'sjust simping, so she's jealous

(27:05):
that she's not getting thattreatment.
And this other woman, who ain'tgiving it up, is getting the
treatment.
What is up with?

Wes (27:10):
your definition.

DeLaw (27:13):
So she's mad that she can't fucking play the dude,
even though she's seen the dudeget played by another girl right
, and so how I was playing tothe guy, how, when I was um
talking to him that's how I viewit coming about and then it
turned into this term thateveryone just uses.
As far as what that was that Ijust stated of somebody out here
really just doing this, thisand this and getting played,

(27:38):
that's how I always do something.

Wes (27:42):
But I don't understand you.
Why didn't you just come upwith the logical thing like most
of us have?
It's short for simpleton, andyou are a simpleton if you can't
see that this girl is playingyou, why you got to throw
another lady into the situation?

DeLaw (28:01):
you said it best love is mine.
I'm going to take over yourmind.

Wes (28:05):
You might not even see you being a simp yes, yes, and
that's what makes yes, you don'tsee you being a simp and in my
opinion, in my humble opinion,we all gonna play.
You know everybody plays a fool.
Right, speaking of another song, once you get played the fool

(28:25):
you should know.
You should know from that pointon, like, how the game is
fucking played.
So if you continue to fall intothat situation, that's kind of
on you, man.

DeLaw (28:40):
Hey look, I hear people getting called sex all the time.
Matter of fact, they called whowas that on Power?
I don't know.
That was your show on Power.
The one with the Patrick kid,what's his name?
Tyreek?
And they were saying withMonet's what is it Otis' son?
The one that was Kane Kane.

(29:02):
Yeah, yeah, yeah.

Wes (29:03):
Oh, for that reason.

DeLaw (29:04):
Yeah, they were calling him a sump because he was paying
her tuition, trying just to getin her draws.
Oh, he a sump, he trying to getin her draws.

Wes (29:12):
My whole thing is Kane got the money right.

DeLaw (29:15):
Kane got the money.

Wes (29:16):
So that to me in my head that's passive simping Like yo,
this ain't I know what the fuckI'm doing.
It's not like she like oh well,I actually didn't finish the
series, so I would hope itwasn't like I'm just all out of
sorts If he just tucking hersome money to the side and
saying, yo, babe, this is foryou, he knows what the fuck he's

(29:36):
doing.

DeLaw (29:38):
I think that is how it went.
She was going to pay for school.

Wes (29:41):
Oh, she was saying that.

DeLaw (29:45):
Yeah, she kind of opened with like I got to figure out
some other way to do this andhe's like man, this is the way.

Wes (29:51):
I always take care of you.
Context to do this and you knowI always take care of context
always matter and that's why Isay passive simping, if you know
what you're doing, and you'relike yo.
This could probably blow up inmy face, but, you know, maybe
this will give me a chance to,like you know, beat the joint
down so I'm gonna do this issimping gender specific hell.
No, it's not so, but we sayeffy was something nah, so I

(30:15):
think what women call those typeof women?

DeLaw (30:18):
they call them pick me's so Effie was a pick me well, I
don't know, I ain't finished thefucking series.
I don't know she was trying toget with Tyreek.
It didn't matter what Tyreekdid, who he slept with, she was
still right there.
I said I think that's somethingright.
I'm down for you.
Yeah, we're going to do.
I said I think that's somethingright, I'm down for you.
Yeah, we're going to do this,we're going to do this.
I got you, I got you.
Is that not the same thing thatcame due with her?

Wes (30:41):
If I remember correctly I think Effie was just trying to
prove that she I don't think wasTariq saying though this is how
it's going to be, either getwith the program or bounce or
was it just one of those thingswhere they just wasn't on good
terms?
That's totally different.

DeLaw (30:57):
I don't know.
What do you think?

Speaker 3 (30:58):
Bennett, I don't know , I'm not even listening to me.
Okay.

Wes (31:05):
Yeah, I didn't finish the series.
I got stars, I just have notfinished the show.

DeLaw (31:12):
I'm not really sure if it's worth finishing really.

Wes (31:15):
I'm on the last drink, I think, but that's besides the
point.
The passive simping we've alldone it.
Yeah look, I ain't no wife whowas right there.
I was about to ask you if youstill do that in your marriage
it's not called simping inmarriage it is.

DeLaw (31:36):
I'll tell you how.
I'll tell you how to do it.
It's called being a husband,babe, what you need.
You said you need me to getsome food.
I got you Right.
I mean, look, it's not simping,look one way or another, no
matter how you look at it,whether you're simping or you're

(31:58):
playing your cards, right tomake sure that you get what you
want.

Wes (32:02):
So it's passive.
Simping it's different, yeah,passive.
You know what you're doing, soyou know what you're doing to
play your cards right.
You know the outcome.
You know the outcomes you'relooking for.

DeLaw (32:13):
Right.

Wes (32:15):
You know, like maybe you don't want to go to this event
and you and she's like yo, Iwould like for you to go.
No, let me rephrase that it'snot even like yo, she wants you
to go to this event.

DeLaw (32:26):
She didn't tell me to get myself together.

Wes (32:30):
This is how we get in trouble.
We are not enthused about thethings they want us to do.
Right, there's no enthusiasm,there's no eagerness or anything
like that.
And she said that, hey, that isa problem for me.
You act like everything that wedo.
You're not interested in this,this and that.
So in your head you're like,well fuck, I know she like
enthusiasm, I know she like youknow reactions and shit like

(32:52):
that.
Very, very next event, boom orwhatever.
Have you?
You putting it all on the table.
You like, oh my gosh, I can'twait to do this.
I've always wanted to do it.
And in the back of your headyou're like, yo, this better
lead to me having some sloppyass head later on tonight.
Passive symptom, because ify'all wasn't married you would
be doing the same thing.

DeLaw (33:13):
Fucking interested in all the shit that she interested in
all that if I show too muchemotion of something my wife
wanted to do, she would thinksomething wrong.
Who the hell are you?
That is possible you are neverexcited to go do anything.
You don't even say the words inyour regular vocabulary.

Wes (33:35):
If she questions that you did it wrong, you didn't do it
well enough for her to be like,okay, he's changing his tune.

DeLaw (33:44):
That means I have to gradually do it.
I can't do it all in one.
No, you have to gradually do itthat day.

Wes (33:51):
You have to gradually do it that day.

DeLaw (33:58):
You'll start with the high emotions.
High emotions you lead intolike, oh, let's go to the
chicken wing festival.

Wes (34:02):
You don't do that yeah, you don't do that.
It's like the back.
Let's just say chicken wing.
Let's just say chicken wingfestival.
Hey, uh, what sauce do youthink they're gonna add it?
I really hope that they havethis type of sauce.
I had a sauce in a minute.
You step away for a coupleminutes or hours or whatever,
and you think I should wear thisshirt with this.

(34:22):
I don't really want to getnothing dirty.
You wanted this, this, and thatyou're showing her that you're
interested in going becausey'all conversating about it,
which you know.
Really, you don't really give afuck about it.
Just wait to get back onPassive something, because if
you did that, not being married,you just fake an interest with

(34:42):
her.
You're going through themotions.
You're just waiting to get backon.
You're waiting to take her backon.
That's all you do at the bar.
Not you, but that's all men doat the bar.
Fake, that's all you do at thebar, not you, but that's all men
do at the bar.
Fake listening, getting heranother drink.
Fake listening again.
Word, what he did.
That, that's crazy.
Get a nut drink say the keyphrases yeah, the key phrases

(35:05):
eye contact, girl.
You don't need that, that typeof shit, girl you don't need
that, that type of shit.
That's all I'm trying to say.
You don't like my term, youdon't like my definition for
that.

DeLaw (35:22):
I don't know, I'm going to have to use it.
Man, he over here bepassive-sensory.
He done brought her both50-level drinks.
She drunk as shit.
Passive-sensory.

Wes (35:33):
Listen to me, that's just a more polite way of saying you
lying to girls, you selling thema dream.
But instead of it being thethings that you say by selling
them a dream, it's the thingsthat you do.
Think about it.
Pass it simple you couldsimping, you could talk, you

(35:58):
could say the I guess the simpshit all day.
At that point you lying.
But when you start doing thatshit, yeah, and you know you
ain't really about that life.
You like look, I'm just trying,I'm trying to play the role as
a simp to get what I need,that's what I'm getting there.
So says simping life.
You like look, I'm just trying,I'm trying to play the role as
a simp to get what I need,that's what I'm getting there so
since simping isn't genderspecific or passive simping, so

(36:22):
since we're married, right.

DeLaw (36:25):
So the wife brought me a parfait and a smoothie, my
favorite smoothie.
Does that mean that she'spassively simping me to get
something from me?

Wes (36:35):
listen, I ain't want to snitch on your wife.
Yo, that might be it I don'tknow what's going on over there
that?
Might be it you know what timeit is?
Yeah, it might be.
It, might be it, might be it.

(36:56):
Sprite ain't even gonna reallyget you a fucking tropical
smoothie, yo, let me do this.

DeLaw (37:02):
Make sure I solidify for tonight what time it is.
Or maybe she might be likemaybe if I do this, he'll make
lunch for me.
Yeah, pour me some chardonnay.
Relax and sleep and rest.
Listen, we all do it, I guess.

Wes (37:23):
I do it at least a couple times a week.

DeLaw (37:26):
I don't know if I do it, you do it.
You do it If I know I'm tryingto get something that night.
Oh babe, dinner's ready.
What you mean?
Dinner's ready.
It's only 7 o'clock, dinner'sready.
Get your plate, woman, andlet's eat so we can go upstairs.
You're doing it wrong.

Wes (37:45):
This is what you did Dinner's ready, you made her
plate.
You bought it to her.
Come sit down.
That's the passive simp shitLike oh he's, but in your head
you're like yo, I'm just tryingto get you full.

DeLaw (38:00):
I ain't got to do that If I'm frying some chicken.
You know what was that?
Toucan Sam Just followed.
No, who followed their nose tothe rainbow, or whatever.

Wes (38:10):
It was.

DeLaw (38:11):
Toucan Sam.

Wes (38:12):
I do not remember that.
You know that fried chicken,rainbow or whatever, it was
Toucan.

DeLaw (38:14):
Sam, I do not remember that he's got that fried chicken
.

Wes (38:15):
I do not remember that.

DeLaw (38:16):
It's like Monterey Jack from the Rescue Rangers.
Don't know who that is, he'scheese and he, just, she, just
kind of floats over to the friedchicken like, oh, oh, he got,
oh, oh, and she, look, she giveme this.
Look like, oh, you trying toget something you know you're my
other homeboy.

Wes (38:35):
The reference, the references from deep, deep
childhood cuts, and I'm like whoyou don't remember?
Toucan Sam.
I do, I do, but I didn't.
I forgot it was.
Follow your note.

DeLaw (38:52):
When the last time you seen a Fruit Loop commercial
with Toucan Sam, exactly, Iain't even watched TV in so long
to see a serial commercial, soI don't even know who the
characters are.

Wes (38:57):
Neither do I.
I don't even know if they arecharacters anymore.
I don't know, I just know.
I don't even see Trixcommercials like that, no more.

DeLaw (39:04):
Look who was that.
Mikey, he likes it.
What was that?
Trix, no.

Wes (39:10):
Look, Trix is for kids.

Speaker 3 (39:12):
What is Trix?

Wes (39:14):
Oh shit, that's not what I meant to say.
I meant to say tricks.
Tricks is the bunny, the rabbit, mikey, he likes it, it's kicks
.
I don't fucking know, damn, whois that?

DeLaw (39:33):
What cereal was this?
This was the life oh lifecereal.

Wes (39:38):
Mikey's commercial.
I don't even know what that is.

DeLaw (39:42):
I don't even know what have you eaten?

Speaker 3 (39:43):
life cereal no, you know, I like golden grams.

DeLaw (39:50):
I was a corn pops person myself.
Corn pops person myself.
Corn pops, oh life.

Wes (39:58):
cereal, oh the quick yellow box right I mean orange box box
with the whatever and cereal.

DeLaw (40:09):
Oh, having crunch tricks Golden cereal.

Wes (40:11):
Oh, captain Crunch Trix, golden Golden Grahams yeah
definitely Golden Grahams.

DeLaw (40:20):
I like Golden Grahams and I like Smack.

Wes (40:22):
Sugar Smacks.
That was.
Smack yeah, rice Krispie treatsevery now and then.

DeLaw (40:29):
Rice Krispies.
I ain't like the Rice Krispies.
It didn't have no flavor to it.

Wes (40:33):
Yeah, it'd be dumping a bunch of't like the Rice
Krispies.
It didn't have no flavor to it.
Yeah, it'd be dumping a bunchof sugar into the bowl, bullshit
.

DeLaw (40:37):
I'm surprised a lot more of us ain't got diabetes.

Wes (40:40):
It's coming.
Um, it must be eating.
It's fucking coming.

DeLaw (40:48):
Look, this is my last drink right here.
Yeah, alright, 109.
If I was listening into thelast episode of the podcast,
You're like.

Wes (40:55):
You're like that guy who yeah this is my first day
without beating my meat.
Yeah, and keep starting over.

DeLaw (41:07):
I told you look, I brought this, I brought a white
claw and I brought somechardonnay.
Oh, the chardonnay for thewhite, no, it's for me, she can
have some she wants.
And it's the black box.
You know how the black box isgood yeah yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah
, that's my stuff, yo.

Wes (41:30):
So listen to this story of almost.
This is kind of borderlinesimping.
Almost.
This guy says he wants to knowis he wrong for not contributing
to his girlfriend's mortgage ormoving back?

Speaker 3 (41:47):
in.

Wes (41:48):
That is the title.
I know that sounds crazy.
I'm going to read it again.
Not contributing to mygirlfriend's mortgage or moving
back in.
He wants to know if he's wrong.

DeLaw (42:00):
Why did?

Wes (42:01):
he move out.
It's a stupid, crazy ass story.
Last year my girlfriend boughta house and I moved in with her.
She has a 10 year old daughterfrom a previous relationship.
Things were going well at firstand I was happy to contribute

(42:22):
to the household, even though myname wasn't on the mortgage.
Uh, we didn't add me to the dbecause my credit was poor at
the time and I already owned ahome that I ran out.
Here's the part that kind of.
The mortgage of the house isaround $5,000 per month.
Jesus, that's not the shockingpart.

DeLaw (42:48):
Where they live at.

Wes (42:49):
And this is not and the next part is not the shocking
part either I was contributing$2,000 monthly.

DeLaw (42:56):
I mean, that's almost half.

Wes (42:58):
Come on now, that's not my house.
Which, which was, which was,which was the most I can afford
due to loans, credit card debtand other financial
responsibilities.
A few months in, she told meshe was going to let her ex, her

(43:19):
daughter's father, move in andhelp with co-parenting.
Wait what?
I wasn't excited about the idea, but I tried to be
understanding, since I know howimportant stability is for their
daughter.

DeLaw (43:32):
They didn't break up important stability is for their
daughter.
They didn't break up.
Let's just, she said, let mybaby daddy come live here so he
can crank this joint live hereover time.

Wes (43:42):
Over time, though, it became clear that the ex still
had feelings for her.
He was overly familiar andacted like he was still part of
the relationship.
It made me very uncomfortableand I started to feel like the
third wheel and my own home.
She doesn't want to kick outher her ex because he helps a

(44:06):
lot with their daughter.
After a while, I decided tomove out on my on my own mental.
I decided to move out for myown mental and emotional
well-being.
Now my girlfriend is upset thatI won't move back in or
continue contributing to themortgage.
I've told her that I'm notcomfortable in living in the

(44:38):
same house as her ex and I don'tfeel like it's fair to keep
financially supporting aproperty I have no ownership for
, especially under thesecircumstances.
I care about her daughter, butI also need to look after my own
financial emotional health.

DeLaw (44:55):
Yeah, you're right so what you're saying is he quietly
quit the relationship.

Speaker 3 (45:01):
He didn't quietly quit, he didn't have to quietly
walk off.
He could have been like lookyou fucked up, I got you.

DeLaw (45:15):
Like what kind of in the devil's three some of you trying
to do right now?

Wes (45:21):
It's the nerve of Shorty to be like.
You know you still need to bepaying.
I'm like yo.

Speaker 3 (45:25):
Right.

DeLaw (45:29):
I move in with you Now.
The reason for him not being onthe mortgage I sort of
understand, but it's like, butthat's still a tax write-off.
It's a tax write-off Becausewhen we got ours, my credit was
good.
My wife had the money, so itworked out for us that we still
got our low rating.

Wes (45:49):
But I'm married though.
Yeah, nah, they just boyfriendand girlfriend, like the way I
look that it is.

DeLaw (45:59):
He moved in with her and she said well, I want to have my
ex move in with us.
All right, that is a do youwant me or you want him?

Wes (46:12):
that's what it should have been.
It ain't even that.
It ain't even that.
Do you want me or you want him?
That's what it should have been.
It ain't even that.
It ain't even that.
See and this is where thepassive symptom come in on my
part if I was young and in thissituation you know, you probably
already know where I'm goingwith this I would have been like
yeah, yeah, yeah, cool, bad,bad, bad, bad, bad.
I ain't living in another house.
When I'm a grown man, I'm stillgoing to move out and I'm a

(46:33):
fake like I'm still in arelationship with Shorty because
she just tried to play me andI'm a lead-in situation when I'm
a fucker in a lead-in situation.
So I'm going to play the part.
I'm going to crank this joint acouple more times.
She's probably doing doubleduty anyway, so she's used to it
.
That's the mindset that I'mgoing through.
I'm like oh, you got me fuckedup.
You think I believe what you'retrying to do.

(46:54):
You think I'm going to go withthis?
Yes, I'm going to go with it inyour eyes, but I'm out here.
I'm out here.

DeLaw (47:02):
I guess in my head once Shorty said oh, my ex is moving
in, he'll move out, okay, so inhis case moved.
And he said he still thoughthe's part of the family.
Of course he does, because whenyou leave to go to work and she
get home before you, you canleave up to your imagination at

(47:23):
that point.

Wes (47:24):
That's.
That's.
That's a.
That's a crazy thing for him tobe like.
You know what?
I know how they need stability.

DeLaw (47:30):
She's all about stability and I'm like yo, then she
should have stayed with that,nigga I get the co-parenting
part but, no, I don't get tolive in the get if, if dude
didn't live with you, if youwere just like, all right, well,
we just having fun and we'retogether, but you know, blah,
blah, blah.
All right, cool, but I'm notmoving in with you.

(47:52):
You take care whatever you'regoing to take care of, but I'm
already paying two thousand.
I already got my own home thatI'm renting out.
Then you got another dude tocome in here who they never says
paying anything, he's justhelping with the kids.
So now you got.
So now I'm paying for anothernigga to be here.

Wes (48:11):
So context to that apparently the guy does not know
how much the girl's ex ispaying, but she says he's paying
more than him.
So in my head I'm like, so whyis it not?

DeLaw (48:26):
enough money between y'all two.

Wes (48:28):
I honestly think they try to trick bag his ass.
Nah, they just try to trick baghis ass.
She was already fucking a exand as far as she knows, as far
as he knows, the boyfriend, heis the third wheel because he's
always been the third wheel.

DeLaw (48:46):
So pretty much she got a house, had him move in.
It's far paying shit.

Wes (48:50):
Mathematically, the next thing they did was him moving
her out of his room.

DeLaw (48:52):
Out, had him move in.

Wes (48:53):
It's for our paying shit Mathematically, mathematically,
the next thing that he did washim moving her out of his room,
out of her room.
That's what was going to happen.
She's going to come up withsome issues Like I just have
problems sleeping, do you thinkyou can sleep in the guest room?
And this, this and that, andshe's going to have her own.
I'm telling you that's what wasgoing to happen.

DeLaw (49:13):
I'm still trying to put together the math of how he's
paying more.
If he's paying two grand, shewas already paying three grand.
I mean she ain't paying nothing.
That means she paying zero andhe paying the three thousand
plus the utility.
Like, because even if it wasshe paid three thousand, he paid
two thousand.
The other guy paid theutilities.

(49:34):
He's still not paying as muchas him listen.

Wes (49:36):
Obviously somebody's the passive simp and somebody's the
simp well because there's no waywe'll move back in with my
first of all, move back in withmy ex and pay her mortgage with
another dude.

Speaker 3 (49:53):
another dude Like come on.

DeLaw (49:56):
Well, you know we're looking from, we're talking from
a place of logic, I know.
I remember there was abartender.
I used to know an older whitelady and she was like, yeah, my
boyfriend and my girlfriend alllive together.
We all live together and and herex lives with them and she pays

(50:25):
all the stuff.
So whatever she tells them todo, that's what they do and they
can't be mad.
And she lets and she says theyonly like.
I mean when I say supercontrolling, to the point where
she was, like I put stuff, Itracked their phones, I tracked
the vehicles.
They better not be where I toldthem not to be.

Wes (50:42):
It was like yeah, ain't, no way, I'm not even putting
myself in that situation, man.

DeLaw (50:47):
And she was like oh well, if they want to be here, since
I pay all the bills, then theygot to do whatever the hell I
told them to do.

Speaker 3 (50:52):
It's the cost of selling yourself.

DeLaw (50:56):
I was like that's crazy.
I mean, it was some point, itwould be dudes coming up to the
bar to see her.
And she's like, oh yeah, that'smy little side joint.
And you know, I was like,aren't you married?
Yeah, he knows about him too.
I told him if you want to here,then I'm going to do whatever I
want to do.
You can't sit with nobody elseunless I tell you you can.
And I was like that's why, whenyou said the story, this is an

(51:23):
old white lady and I think thedude who came up to the bar was
like a younger black dude andI'm like I just looked at this
nigga, like nigga.

Wes (51:36):
Yo yo, yo, yo yo yo.
Let me tell you something aboutthis is a side topic.
My yo, my wife, has been uhlike started watching a bunch of
um not historical documentariesbut like uh documentaries on
mini docs from people umrandomly on youtube about
different countries and shit.
So I did not know neither oneof us knew this that British
white women are going to Gambiain Africa, just for a black dick

(52:00):
down.

Speaker 3 (52:02):
What.

Wes (52:03):
Yeah, like this is the other side of passport bros,
quote, unquote.
They going there to have theirfun.
You know their little fling andshit like that.
Sometimes they stand for twoweeks and shit like that.
Get told lies, Get told fantasyshit, Get some dick.
They drop off some money.

(52:23):
They on their way.
Well, actually this ain't thepassport bro.
This is what Going to Medellinor Columbia and shit, or the DR.
So this is their DR.
So I'm sitting there watchingthe journey with my wife.
I'm like yo, they fantasizingthe shit out of these men over

(52:46):
here, but when they go back totheir country they don't want to
be seen with a black man.
And that shit threw me for aloop.
I was just like, nah, I can'tbelieve this shit.
But there it was, us watchingit, seeing like four or five
white women get off a plane and,you know, black guys come up to

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them and that's who they'vebeen with for the duration of
the stay.

DeLaw (53:14):
So they're going to Africa to get their black
experience?

Wes (53:17):
Yeah, I can't even make no jokes about it, because that's
exactly what it was.
That's exactly what it wasthat's what it sounds like.

DeLaw (53:26):
I need to make sure that before I go home, before I get
married, I get the blackexperience the only thing is
that that's what they do onvacation type shit this African
lady at my job.
She would tell me some of thewildest stories about, oh yeah,
you know my ex-husband.
He was Nigerian and I wouldnever mess with them again.

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I'm like, why not, they'readdictive?
And I was like, huh, they'readdictive.
I was like, oh, oh shit.
She's like oh, oh shit.
He's like, oh, that thing willmake you fall in love and
they're some shitty individuals.

Wes (54:02):
I was like what One dude during the documentary he was
saying that he got the most hegot out of a woman was like 60k
at a time.
Did they got to sleep with him?

DeLaw (54:14):
They're piping them down, yeah, and they got to sleep
with them.

Wes (54:17):
They're piping them down.
Yeah, and they're not like theylookers or anything like that
they are, they're just hangersHuh.

DeLaw (54:24):
They're just hangers yeah .

Wes (54:29):
I did say a British white woman, so you can imagine what
that looks like.
They're not lookers.

DeLaw (54:37):
My wife would let me do that to give us.
They're not lookers.
I don't think my wife would letme do that to give us any 60K
they're not coming to America.

Wes (54:45):
They're not coming to America for that.
Well, yeah.

Speaker 3 (54:53):
There are a lot of women who go, you know,
non-white women who go onvacation and they go, like down
to the Caribbean and todifferent countries and they
literally have an escort withthem the whole time.

Wes (55:08):
Call them out.
What's their names?

Speaker 3 (55:10):
Nope, what's their names?
I was scrolling my Instagramand a young lady hinted at that
and she was black, I think.
She went over to Nepal and samescenario she was there for two
weeks.
She had a male escort and like,put him in the camera and was
like, oh, I got to leave him andyou know, kind of was

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sexualizing him on her post.
But same thing, same thing.
She was there for two weeks.
He was there staying with herat her you know hotel or
wherever she was staying for thetwo weeks and she flat out said
she did not want to go andshe's thinking about moving
there, that's, you know.

Wes (55:52):
So that's when passive simping go wrong.
When she talking told me Iain't going nowhere, I need the
next drink to fall off the planeso I can keep this racket up.

Speaker 3 (56:02):
I come back in state.

DeLaw (56:06):
No mom.

Wes (56:07):
Yeah, right, go home.

DeLaw (56:11):
But you will always be in my arms.
Yo Go ahead and block her onsocial media and everything.

Wes (56:21):
Right.
So that is another definitionof my meaning of passive simping
.
They don't mean that shit.
They literally being the ladiesman and this, this and that
just to get to the draws.
But in this case they doingthat to get to the money.

Speaker 3 (56:51):
I guess it ain't tricking if you got it yeah,
exactly, I'm a.

Wes (56:56):
I ain't gonna say I'm a fan of tricking if you got it.
Yeah, exactly yeah, I ain'tgonna say I'm a fan of tricking
if you got it.
But yo, yeah, I'm a fan.
I ain't gonna lie, I'm a fan.
The only reason why I'm a fanis because a woman will use
cleavage to get what she wants.
Yeah, if her resources iscleavage or fat ass and shit

(57:17):
like that and my resources areme being charming and maybe a
little bit of money, then yo,hey, if you want some of this
charm, a little bit of money,you hungry?
I got lots you can eat.
Yeah, pretty much.
That's not what I was saying,but yeah, but yeah, but yeah,

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man homeboy in this post, I'mjust like god damn man.
5k for a mortgage is a lot.
That has to be New York or someshit.

DeLaw (57:46):
That has to be New York.
Ain't no way it could.
Nah, it can't be 5K in New YorkCity.

Wes (57:52):
It can't be, because 5K ain't really getting you much,
much Like Aunt Kim's old house.

Speaker 3 (57:57):
They were paying something like that every month,
so that could easily beMaryland and one of them big,
you know, california houses.

Wes (58:06):
Nah, not Kylie, because I can't imagine it being New York
if it's going to be three adultsin there.
So that's out the question.

Speaker 3 (58:12):
Yeah, because those houses are small that's what I'm
thinking like a big housebecause it's the adults plus the
daughter.

Wes (58:19):
Excuse me, my whole thing is, now that I'm thinking about
it, why the fuck he stay withher, like even after he moved
out?
Like why are you even stilltalking, like after you didn't,
after she didn't propose this?
You should have been gettingyour.
Uh, you should have beenweaning softball for her right
then and there, because all thatshit sound crazy.
Oh yeah, you gonna move youraccent.

Speaker 3 (58:39):
He might have had the time to get his money to get
the leave, especially if she waspaying everything.

DeLaw (58:46):
He was paying for the mortgage?
Yeah, you know what?
She probably talked to babydaddy and was like look, this
nigga ain't paying what I needhim to pay, so you want to move
in because I need some help.

Wes (59:00):
She ends up paying nothing.
This don't make sense.

DeLaw (59:04):
Look, we ain't say she didn't pay nothing.

Wes (59:07):
Yo, okay, what she paying, like, yeah, I pay the utilities
and the house that I got and Igot two men, one I'm not
involved with and one that's yo.
If anything she should.
Yo I can tell this is a whitecouple, because and I don't
normally say this when we talkabout this you do Yo, she should

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have just put her ex on childsupport.
If it's really money, put themon child support.

DeLaw (59:36):
And if you got that much that he can come in and pay more
and pay more than me, youpaying more than two racks.

Wes (59:41):
Come on now.
She fucking him.
That's what it is.

DeLaw (59:47):
Look when he run a home late from work.
I'm going with the fellas, Iwill keep going.
So I've been paying all thisdamn money.
What am I getting for this,besides my daughter?
Come on.

Wes (01:00:00):
It's so dangerous to do.
Just think it's another.
You're living with anothergrown man.
I need some of the sex part.
What if one day he just be likeI'm going to hook off on this
nigga and you sleep and you justwake.
Just be like I'm a hook off onthis nigga and you sleep and you
just wake up to like you knowtwo rights and the left and

(01:00:21):
you're like yo, what the fuckgoing on.
Now he feel like he want youout this house.
That's dangerous as shit toeven be in that situation before
he moved out.

DeLaw (01:00:30):
Yeah.

Wes (01:00:32):
Ain't no way.

DeLaw (01:00:33):
Yeah, I definitely like.

Wes (01:00:36):
And that's just your girl.
I would have been moved out.
I would have started dating herfriend just just for the
strength of it.
Like yo fucking put me in asituation.
I'm about to mess your bestright.
You put me in a stupidsituation like that.

DeLaw (01:00:50):
Y'all don't care about me , Y'all don't care about me for
even asking to do this and I canguarantee anyone that he talked
to about it.
They probably looked at himlike huh, wait, and you're still
.
And she wants you to do whatand you're still with who?

Wes (01:01:09):
Oh, no fucking way.

DeLaw (01:01:13):
Mr Cliff already said it should have been gone hell yeah,
listen now that I'm thinkingabout it.

Wes (01:01:22):
I remember when I just started college, this girl was
telling a story similar to that,but it was you went to Bowie
right I went to a bunch of them.
I was at PG, went to Bowie, forI went to a bunch of them.
I was at PG, went to Bowie fora little bit, ended up in
Maryland, graduated not MarylandUMBC, derivative of Maryland, I

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guess.
So she was like she, she wasgetting put out of her house,
her apartment and shit like that.
She had no place to stay withher and her son, her baby father
, was about to get apartment andshit like that.
She had a place to stay withher and her son, her, uh, her
baby father was about to getmarried and shit.
So she asked yo, like yo, Idon't have any place to stay,
can we move in?
And she was like, when she wastelling the story, we was in

(01:02:08):
speech 101 or whatever when shewas telling and we had a white
professor listen to this shit.
So when she told the story andshit, um, he was just like
shocked, like, oh, my goodness,and what happened?
He was like, well, he was.
He said he wasn't going toleave us, you know, out in the
cold.
So we, we, we live there now.
And he was like is everythingOK?
Yeah, there's no problems?

(01:02:30):
And she was like right now,ain't no problems.
I'm just like and she beingtruthful right now ain't no
problem, you don't know hisfiance gonna be like she needs
to move out.
I could not.
I could, I couldn't even dothat.
I couldn't do that.
Two women one.

(01:02:50):
I ain't dealing with one, I'mdealing with.
I'm just gonna have to work ona job to get you in your own
spot, because I don't want tohear from both of y'all.

Speaker 3 (01:02:56):
I can barely deal with one that chick ain't moving
her hand yeah, exactly.

Wes (01:03:07):
And then as a man, as a man , you force the situation.
Both of them won't be mad atyou.

DeLaw (01:03:16):
The kid cause he's mine.

Wes (01:03:18):
Yeah, he can stay he's about to stay at the shelter.
That's what you're going to saycause he's your mama.

DeLaw (01:03:25):
But the kid can stay with me.
Why would I?
No, no, no, you gotta run theany kid.

Wes (01:03:31):
Mrs Smith ain't having that shit yeah, man, I just don't
see in any way how that fuckingworks.
Yo, your girl had to be your ex, got to be dating a stud at
that point that's the only waythat that works.
And that stud got to be comingover to stud her out every now

(01:03:52):
and then.
So your wife knows, or yourfiance knows she like the fake
dick, not the real dick, so it'snot a problem.

DeLaw (01:04:01):
It should.

Wes (01:04:02):
You know what, and then that stuff start coming on to
your wife and you're like yo, myman, what you doing?
Both of y'all need to go Comeon.

DeLaw (01:04:15):
now it gets to all other women got to leave.
Yeah, I, now you can stay, allother women gotta leave.
Yeah, no, I feel you, I thinkmost women will have that, uh,
that sentiment now she can'tstay you'd be shocked, because I
know a lot of white people whoare like I said most, most women
, be like no, you can't stay Iknow a lot of white people be
like oh man, I don't see nothingwrong with it, we're all really

(01:04:36):
good friends.

Wes (01:04:37):
Yeah, I've heard those stories.
Until your ex-girl and yourcurrent girl is fucking each
other.
Then what?
And they ain't even let you inon that.
Now they kick you out the houseand then your boy's like how
the fuck you fucked that up?
I've heard those stories too.

(01:04:59):
Now your ex-wife and your newjoint is getting married.
Heard that story?
That's crazy.

Speaker 3 (01:05:10):
It is crazy yeah, I'm checking my email moral of the
story keep everybody on trialsyeah, that's moral of the story
that is the moral of the story,dude.

Wes (01:05:25):
Passive simping is a thing, and uh, keep everybody on
trials and if you're not gonnauh, if you ain't gonna live it
cause you got her other dudeit's time to break up.
Yeah, pussy must damn.
I forgot my spiff right there.
I was about to say that shitmust be fiery, because it's like

(01:05:45):
yo what God still stands.
I'm just thinking in my headlike yo, you gonna move back in
you gonna move in with your exbecause you that's just a
hypothetical You're going tomove back in with Jack.
Like I miss that shit so bad.
I got to get close to that shitagain.
And then the other dudes likethat shit's so fired that I
think I'm going to allow this.
That's the only thing I canthink of, because there's no
fucking way.

DeLaw (01:06:08):
Or or or no that's the only thing I can think of,
because even if you were, evenif it was like all right, well,
he moved back in.
What if she was like oh well,you got to stand against him
because he sleeps in the room.

Wes (01:06:18):
That's what I'm saying, you setting yourself up for stupid
shit like that.
You setting yourself up forstupid shit like oh, our
daughter just likes to see us asa family and I think he needs
to kind of sleep in here somenights just so she can see her
dad go to bed with her mom.
That's what's next.

(01:06:39):
That's the stupid shit that'sgoing to happen.

DeLaw (01:06:46):
I'll pass it to you, brother.
Whoever this guy is, Stay thefuck away.

Wes (01:06:51):
That's what you should do.
You're not in the wrong.
Go summertime, go develop yourteam.
Something, something other thanthat.

DeLaw (01:07:02):
It's going to be a hot summer.

Wes (01:07:06):
And for him it better be a hot, wet summer.
Stop dealing with that change.

DeLaw (01:07:10):
That's my impression move on.

Wes (01:07:21):
I'm so happy to be married.
On that note, I am so happy tobe married.
I don't want to go anywhere atall.
So we thank everybody fortuning in see you next time.