Wes & DeLaw | The Unexpected Tribal Chief - According To Wes

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Wes (00:00):
One of my own girls, like when we be saying this to our
wives, right, sometimes I don'tsay not, sometimes, a lot of
times, I don't say yo, this isgoing to be really important,
like I don't say it with anurgency and a tone that she
understands.
Like you, you better not say no, like yo, this is really
important to me.
This means a lot.
You're my wife.

(00:20):
He needs to.
I need to whatever, whatever,whatever, or this, this, and
that wife he needs to.
I need to whatever, whatever,whatever, or this, isn't that?
She'll still say no, because Ihaven't tried this yet that's a
different, that's a, that's a.
That's a whole differentconversation everybody, welcome
back to another episode of theaccording to west podcast and,
as always, we got to do you allhere yeah, got the belt, got the

(00:41):
belt, you've got.

DeLaw (00:46):
You got the reigning.
The offended, most unlikable,most assholeless, the most hated
the law, the devil son-in-lawin the building.

Wes (01:09):
I need to get me one of them.

DeLaw (01:10):
You got me one.
All the According to Westpodcast listeners at this time,
acknowledge me.
Acknowledge him, you probablythink.
Acknowledge me is whatacknowledge me as the co-host yo

(01:34):
, and now to get into yourbusiness.

Wes (01:37):
Have you role played with it yet?

DeLaw (01:40):
as soon as I got it, I walked in the house.
My wife was like what are youdoing?
I said acknowledge, acknowledgeme.
She was like nigga had my onefinger up and everything.
I said acknowledge the head ofthe table here, woman.

Wes (01:56):
She was like I would have listened you better than me.
Not that this is too late, butorder some costumes off of
fucking Amazon and shit and justwalk into the house with
different costumes on differenttimes of the different times of
the month and shit.

DeLaw (02:13):
Just be like and just be a totally different dude the
commemorative one, so it's notthe leather one that you see on
TV, so it's a little bit moreplastic than anything else.
But no one, you know, unlessyou up on it, can't really tell
the difference.
But I told I said when I do getenough money I'm going to get

(02:34):
me like the official one, andyeah, but you know I'm going to
go ahead and hold this.
You know I was a two-time,two-time, two-time season winner
for me and the people I do thebets at all the pay-per-views
with.
I won two years in a row andyou know, if you went two years
in a row you get a belt but youhave to bypass.

(02:58):
So pretty much I won a prioryear, so I had an option to
either they would purchasewhatever I wanted them to
purchase, excluding the belt, ifI was like I want to go to the
bar, I have no bar tab, or Iwant y'all to make tacos or
whatever for me one day.
Come over, come chill, bringfood, cater it for me.
That's what they would do.

(03:18):
I bypassed.
I don't want nothing.
I'm going to go for thetwo-time winner.
I want the undisputedchampionship title belt, the one
that Kofi Kingston won when hebeat Daniel Bryant, and so they
fulfilled on their promise.
That that's why I am theundisputed podcast co-host of

(03:44):
the world, and I will beacknowledged as such yes, indeed
, yes indeed, I walked in thismorning my wife was on the
toilet and I was like, hey, man,might I go to Trader Joe's with
the belt on?

Wes (03:57):
she's like you ain't taking that out the house with you.
I just need to get that ingeneral because I'm going to be
walking around in my drawerswith that on Not even no socks,
just that, my drawers and thebelt on.
It's annoying the shit out ofmy wife.
You never know.

DeLaw (04:16):
You never know.
She's like you might be walkingin the room.
She might be kind of like ready, but like not ready.

Wes (04:25):
Ready, but not ready shit and you go.

DeLaw (04:27):
I don't want that.
Yeah, you just hold this up andbe like acknowledge me.
And she might be like huh,acknowledge me as a tribal chica
, I'm about to tear them.

Wes (04:41):
cheeks up.

DeLaw (04:42):
Yeah, so yeah, I told her , I told my wife.
I said, when I get the onesthat would love them, I'm gonna
give her one too, so she'll haveher own.

Wes (04:50):
but that's somewhere down the line yo speaking of I ain't
know what's her name Bianca,bella or whatever.
She cut his.
I know Jade was cut but Biancahas a nice big.
She cut as a mom.
I know Jade was cut but Biancawas like shoulders and arms and
shit like that.
She was cut up.
She was on point.

(05:11):
Shout out to her.

DeLaw (05:12):
Yeah, you know disrespect , but shout out to both of them,
because you know what it'sfunny because what it takes to
put that type of work in, tohave shoulders and arms like
that, because god damn whenBianca, when Jay debuted at the
Royal Rumble, bianca and herBianca and Jay both picked up

(05:34):
some chicks, looking at eachother like this, holding them up
in the air, just like uh-huh,yeah, okay, respect, both of
them just showing their abs, Iwas like it's a wonderful time
to be a black man watching blackwomen dominate yes and married
to black men.

Wes (05:52):
Trish Stratus, and then something for us and then
married to black men.

DeLaw (06:02):
Bianca's married to a guy from the street pop, skinny
black dude, and she never saidshe's married.
But her partner is the secondbaseman of, like, the cincinnati
reds.
Oh, I didn't know that.
So she got a black man too.
Hey, that's what I was likeblack love man.

Wes (06:19):
Look, black love for the win yeah, papoose and Remy ain't
doing it.

DeLaw (06:22):
no more, I'm just saying I'm not getting started on it.
I'm not even getting started onit.
Me and my wife had aconversation about it and I said
I saw the most latest clip.
Remy said was like I know whathappens when you go on the
inside, what happens on theoutside.
And the first thing I did whenI got home is went through his

(06:45):
phone and saw that he wasmessing with other shorties.
I'm like well, I don't know howtrue that is, because as much
as I want to believe that he wasout here, ain't nobody come out
and say nothing.
Exactly, and just like I toldmy wife, I said think about when
we were watching the firstseason of Godfather of Harlem,
the, the first season ofGodfather of Harlem, the one
thing his wife said when shefound out that he was cheating
on her with the same girl thathe was cheating on her with

(07:08):
before he went in.
And then he saw the newspaperarticle where the guy kind of
covered it up and he looked ateach other and they glared at
each other's eyes and eventuallyshe cuts it off and I'm like
look, you can't call her myhusband's home.
This is done.
She said out of her mouth.
I never once disrespected youout here in these streets and
don't act like you ain't outhere cheating Right now while

(07:28):
I'm here.
And he kind of looked at herand said, you know, it was kind
of not like, you're right, andRemy just had to take that one
chance.
Ain't no reports come out thathe was out there fucking around
her?
But all we know he was holdingher down the whole time.

Wes (07:48):
But to come out and start cheating Not even devil's
advocate, but just one of thosethings I don't.
A situation like that is hard.
The fact that, if he was, andhe was able to handle that shit
and keep that shit, nah, but shesaid she was beating bitches'
asses too, so I don't know.

DeLaw (08:04):
Yeah, she was beating bitches' asses too.
So I don't know.
She was beating bitches' assesat the family, whatever, but
ain't no proof of that either.
It's one of those things I care, but I don't care.
Yeah, it's one of those things.
You went on the inside forbeing dumb, alright, and the
rule is you make a stupiddecision, you get stupid rewards

(08:25):
.
You went out there and did thatdumb shit, didn't try to tamper
with the evidence.
You went and he held you down,came and saw you every week.
So if he got him a little bitof side pussy here and there to
hold him over until you got home, as long as he didn't come out
in the media, you might as wellshoot that shit under the rug.
But you out here blatant withyours, like not even trying to

(08:46):
hide it, you just ain't youmarried to Papoose?
Oh yeah, well, no, I'm notfucking this dude here.
They know you're fucking.

Wes (08:56):
Yeah, don't nobody.
That's why I don't really likewe'll run ourselves ragged
trying to understand thetimelines of things and stuff
like that.
That'll never probably berevealed.
It's one of those things whereit's just like yo.
It's somewhat entertaining tosee on the internet, but I don't
really be caring.

DeLaw (09:13):
I don't really be caring because I'm just like y'all
don't?
I mean, that's all I'm going tosay.
Y'all don't.
Y'all are too old to be playingthis game.
Y'all too old to be playingthis game.
To have and to hold nigga Dosickness and health.

Wes (09:30):
my boy yeah.

DeLaw (09:37):
You ain't going nowhere.
Nigga, when she die, you readyto die?

Wes (09:43):
When he die, you ready to die?
I was telling you a little bitabout what was uh, why I was
late, and the funny thing aboutit is that, um, you can't plan
this.
It has, uh, it's somewhatrelated to the story that I was
going to share today, wow.
However, here's the crazy thing.

(10:05):
Since this shit is so fresh, Iain't even going to talk about
my experience and what justhappened, because it was just at
the end of the day.
It was all a misunderstandingand everybody was wrong except
me.

DeLaw (10:17):
Well, you know, it's funny.
That's why I said what I said.
Yeah, you know, because evenlike sometimes, when I talk to
my wife, you know cause you,even like sometimes I'll talk to
my wife, and you know, there'sjust some things, when guys say
it, even though it might makesense in our head, it ends up
making sense in a lot ofpeople's head, but in the moment
it don't make sense.
You know, I think I'm tellingmy wife yesterday, uh, yesterday

(10:41):
or this morning, that you know,you know, and you know, we're
going into a new phase.
Right, I'm done with highschool and it's that phase that,
well, now you live here and nowyou need to contribute.
Now me and my wife are group alittle different, but we kind of
have an understanding.

(11:02):
I grew up up one way.
She grew up another way.

Wes (11:05):
What did she say?
I would like to hear what shesuggests.
I kind of know where you'recoming from.

DeLaw (11:13):
So he's going to pay a fee to be here.
It's not going to be nothingoutrageous.
You know, if he was going tocollege I would have told her,
like, we ain't going to make himpay a fee, let him focus on
doing what he needs to do to.
You know, for school, you knowwhat I mean, cause for me I
wasn't charged a fee until I wasdone college, lucky you.
Well, I was barely home.

(11:37):
Yeah, you know, I didn't have anapartment or not, like when I
went to PG.
I taught and went to PG andbecause I was in college, my
parents were like all right,well, just keep focused on
college, whatever, whatever.
And when I got to four-year,they weren't really tripping
about nothing because by thetime I really got settled in at
four-year at UMBC, I had metfriends up there and I was

(11:59):
pretty much going up thereSunday to Friday, so I'd be home
Friday afternoon, saturday I'mleaving back up on Sunday, so
they'd see me too tense.
So they weren't necessarilychecking for me, right, since I
wasn't working and only going tocollege, my parents weren't
necessarily bothered by itBecause even, like during the
summer, I would just go hang outup there Because I was like it

(12:20):
would be for me to be home if Iain't working.
You know so, because I was likeit would be for me to be home if
I ain't working.
You know so.
It wasn't until I startedworking that I started actually
coming home more often, yeah.
And then that's when they werelike, well, you got to pay a fee
to stay here, because I'mpretty much graduated college at
this point and everything else.
But she was like, you know, I'mgoing to pay a fee and how we

(12:41):
planned it out was at first Iwas going to put it towards the
Internet fee, and how we plannedit out was at first I was going
to put it towards the internet.
But then I said, well, my planis to get this house paid down
as much as I can to at least ahalfway point, because I know
our house is worth more thanwhat we brought it for.
So if I can get it to the,let's see.
We paid about $240.

(13:02):
If I can get it down to$120,000 as quick as possible
within the next eight to nineyears.
I told my wife, I said we couldreally do a cash out refinance
and we don't have to wait thewhole 11 years Because once we
mean you pay, the initialpayment is 300 to go to the

(13:26):
principal to lower the interest,so it'll move a little bit more
right, and so she was out here.
That's cool.
And then we got into adifferent discussion of you know
, once he starts paying, um,he's not gonna feel that he
needs to take out the trash.
I said that's a lie.

Wes (13:45):
I mean how, like we, when you're living here, like, listen
, I the the the easiest uh notsolution, but the easiest
thought process.
So that is like I live here andI paid a mortgage and I still
do things around the house.
You live here.
That's another side of youdoing what you need to do to
maintain where you live here.
That's another side of youdoing what you need to do to
maintain where you live.
That that's another part ofbeing an adult, the main part,

(14:07):
actually one of the main partsyou know like it was.

DeLaw (14:11):
it was a good discussion, like we kind of got whatever we
wanted to say out.
And you know, because she'slike, well, you knock out she
was.
It was always about his, himand his friends coming over.
I said I have no issues withhis friends being over here,
it's when they come over I don'twant to walk into the house and
there's 10 niggas in the housejust chilling watching my TV and
I got two of them.
You know what I'm saying.

(14:31):
Yeah, you know what I'm saying.
If he wants his friends to comeover, hey, can I?
Can they come over on aSaturday?
Okay, clean your room, hang outin your room.
Now, if we had a basement, itcould be a little different.
Well, look, I'm going to havefour of my friends over on
Saturday.
Okay, well, let me tell D-Lawso that he knows you're going to

(14:53):
be there, so he don't thinkhe's going to go down in the
basement and have whatever he'sgoing to have to be upstairs.
That'd be different.
It'd of a little give and take.
I was like, well, you know, Ihave no issues with that, you
know.
But you know rules don't change.
You know we're going to have tosmoke outside.

(15:15):
You know, hey, you want yourfriends to come over.
You know everybody's going tohave to hang out outside and we
probably don't want nobody overhere on the weekends when we get
home from work.
It's just the reality of it,even if you move into a room
like D.
When he moved into a room, hecouldn't have no company in the

(15:36):
house when he wasn't there andthey pretty much almost went as
far as saying you couldn't haveany overnight company.
It wasn't necessarily noovernight company.
It was like if you're not herewhen you leave out in the
morning and go to work, thereshould be nobody downstairs.

(15:57):
There's still rules you have tofollow, even if you find a
cheap room, if you have anapartment, it's still rules have
to follow, even if you find acheap room.
So if you have an apartment,it's the rules.
It's the rule right, can't havedogs.
Right?
It's like when we were livingover across the parking lot we
couldn't have no pets becausethe owner was like no, I don't
want no pets in there.
All right, we, there's still nosmoking in the house.

(16:18):
Like there's still rules youhave to follow.
Even though we are paying allthis money doesn't mean that we
can just do whatever we want.
And so and I said that's just aconversation we're going to
have to sit them down and sayhey, look, I get it.
You think that because you paysomething means you have free
reign, but here's the reality ofit.
You don't.

Wes (16:35):
When we rent it over there, when your mom written a sever,
or when the Laura or you know,there's still rules you have to
follow to make sure you can keepthe place when you're just
renting and in this case you area renter of a room upstairs and
in the house that we pay for.
All right, so there are rules.
You have grown man privilegesbecause you are not in your own

(16:56):
house, so, no matter what it is,there's gonna be rules yeah,
like, even if it's like there'sno overnight company, well, why
not?

DeLaw (17:03):
because we don't want nobody randomly being in the
household.
Now it turns into, let's say,your little girlfriend come over
and she's here for two, threedays.
Now we're using resources tocook her food and do all these
other things.
So if that's the case, you wantovernight company.
That's a different fee.
You know what I'm saying, butthat's a different fee.

(17:24):
You know what I'm saying, butthat's a different conversation.
That's a me her himconversation where we'll sit
down and we got to talk like,look, this is what it is, I get
it.
You think you're supposed tohave this, but no, living at
home with your parents issupposed to be uncomfortable, to
push you out.

Wes (17:43):
Is that true?

DeLaw (17:44):
Yes, do you believe that?

Wes (17:47):
I believe that, I believe because Do you believe in making
it uncomfortable, or it'ssupposed to be uncomfortable?

DeLaw (17:52):
It's supposed to be uncomfortable, like everything
that you All the privileges youwant to get for being an adult
get by moving out on your own.
So my parents didn't make ituncomfortable.
My parents just said if youwant company, let us know ahead
of time.
We'll let you know.
If anyone can come by, okay, oryou can go to their house.

(18:14):
We don't care when you comehome or if you come home, but
after a certain time all doorsare locked, so you're better off
staying out the house.
It's one of those things wherewe're not going to treat you
like a child.
But at this point, pretty muchhow my stepfather said it is, my
job now is to protect yourmother from all intruders.

(18:36):
If you roll up in this houseand I don't know you coming, I'm
coming down with a pistol tomake sure who it is.
It's behind my back first, tomake sure that you're not an
intruder.
If you are, you're about tocatch these shots.
It's one of those things.
It's nothing personal.
It's not us trying to be anasshole or him trying to be an
asshole, it's just the fact thatyou're an adult.
We know that, we understandthat.

(19:00):
But just know there's stillrules If you come into this
house under this house, becausethe names on there say my mom
and dad.
These are the rules you have tofollow, regardless of whether
or not you pay anything here.
The name on that mortgage saysMr and Mrs Smith.
It don't say you.
When we decided to go and sellthis house, because you done

(19:23):
fucked up your room, because youfelt like you should be able to
do whatever you want to do.
Now we lose money on the backend because of your negligence.
That's why we have to put theserules in place, so you have to
maintain this type of status, nomatter what.
It has to be a standard.

Wes (19:38):
I was always not always but I do kind of agree that living
with your parents as an adult issupposed to be uncomfortable,
but not, uh, probably not in theway that you think I'm probably
about to say.
I feel like it's supposed to beuncomfortable because you
should be growing into your ownand you want to uh get your own

(20:00):
much.
Yeah, not necessarily.
Yeah, yes, definitely get yourown, but you kind of want to uh
figure out who you're going tobe as an adult and most times
it's not going to align with howyour parents want you to live
and how your parents are.
So there's always going to besome clashing, whether that's
just you know, very commondisagreements, or even just like

(20:22):
very stark disagreements whereit's just like yo, you being
crazy, type shit.
Whether it's the like my mom hadthis thing, where it was just
like she wanted me home at acertain time just because she
couldn't.
She felt like she couldn'tsleep, or this, this and that,
like stuff like that, and Iunderstand that she also wanted

(20:43):
me to pay for all my stuffinside the house but also give
her money, but also knew that Iwasn't uh, yeah, so it's just
kind of like I can't do allthese things and it made it like
where it was, like my situation, better.
If I move out because I'mgetting, I can save a little bit
of this money and pay foreverything it's, but it's

(21:05):
exactly what your mom wassupposed to do.

DeLaw (21:10):
You're not supposed to make it purposely uncomfortable,
but it's almost supposed to belike a okay, we still are here.
I'm going to treat you a littlebit differently, but you're
still going to be my child andI'm still going to treat you as
such until you're gone.

Wes (21:23):
Yeah, I guess I would um me personally when I, if and when
I get to that that stage, itwouldn't be so much of a um,
this is what you need to bepaying me, and this, this and
that, and blah, blah, blah, blah, blah.
It's going to be one of thosethings where it's like, okay,
now it's time to make your owndecisions as an adult.
So our house, I would hope,would be like a big sandbox,

(21:47):
like you're going to try somethings, you're going to fuck up
some things, but you're in theprotection of this house.
Just know, if you was out there, you would have been fucked
over so many times, but you'rein the protection of this house.
I don't think I, you know, I'mnot.
It might be some food here foryou.
You might have to figure thatout as an adult.

DeLaw (22:04):
Well, here's the kicker I wasn't the one who said that he
was going to pay.
She was, she was.
That wasn't me.
That never even crossed my mindto have him pay to stay here
because, like I said, I wasn'tforced to pay anything.
But also, me and him are underdifferent circumstances.
I was already teaching, I wasgoing to college, I was doing

(22:26):
things that my parents said okay, you're going to be building a
future for yourself and so wedon't want to impede that where
you feel like you have to domore working than study.

Wes (22:36):
Yeah.
So when I think about thepayment thing because I went
through a listen, I went throughthat situation when I first got
my first job my mom was like,well, you gotta blah, blah, blah
, blah.
And I, I didn't always agreewith it.
I never agree with it, actually.
Now, I didn't always.
I never agree with it.
However, um, I kind of feel likeas an uh, to try to teach your

(23:03):
children.
Yeah, there should be something, right?
I don't know if it's rent, Ithink it should be something
because at the same time, we'reolder, right, we know so much
about finance.
We know more about financesthan we did when we were younger
.
We know that we can get ourchildren or our nephews or
whoever started early.
They can literally retire at 50if they're doing the right

(23:26):
thing right now.
We also some of us come from,uh, a place of not so much
privilege, like our parentsmight have been doing good and
this, this and that, or theymight have took some time for
them to start doing good, likein their 40s, 50s and shit yeah
it's one of those things whereit's like you might, they don't,

(23:46):
they don't, some of them don'thave the, uh, the ability to
give us the, the leg up, like inother cultures.
Like in other cultures, youmight start off with 10,000 that
they, they, you know, they,they putting into you and other
and our, and predominantly inour, culture.
It's like you're starting offwith negative blah, blah, blah,
blah, blah.
Yeah, you gotta, you gotta doso to get to.
You gotta do so much to get tostep one.

(24:08):
Um, so it's tricky.
I don't if I, if I do, ask themto pay, they will pay something
.
Um, I don't think it'll be rentand also don't think it'll be,
uh, something crazy.
Um, because I need them tounderstand the constant.
You know you still want to beteaching them and got stuff
Right now.
I don't know what that would be.
I don't know if it'll be calledrent, if you get what I mean.

DeLaw (24:31):
It'll be rent, it's called.
In this case it's called rent.
The only reason she's callingit rent is because that's the
only name you really have forwhen you're paying people who
own something money.

Wes (24:48):
My only issue with giving him a bill, you're paying a
percentage towards the bills.
So let's just say if you'regiving me two hundred dollars,
you're whatever.
Let's just say 0.2, not 2.2,but two percent is going towards
this.
This isn't that like.
This is what you're taking upin this house and if you want
more money for yourself, youlegally and legitimately figure

(25:08):
out.
But hopefully that's a gettinga job and putting money.
It's not.
We're going to allow you tooperate as an adult but uh, the
percentages that me and your momwould pay it's not going to be
as much.
Like your parents right us asadults, we got to pay what we
got to pay.

DeLaw (25:27):
If we got this much money .

Wes (25:28):
If we got this much money if we got to go to the mortgage,
then $1,500 got to go to themortgage.
When you live in here, yourquote-unquote mortgage may be $3
or $4, but you need tounderstand that concept of your
monthly totals goes towardssomething else.
But I'm going to make surewhile you're living here your
money is where it needs to go.
You don't have free range ofyour money.

(25:49):
I guess that's going to be mything.
You don't have free range ofyour money.
When you're here, you're doingnothing but irresponsible things
and whatever you got left over,make it happen, do whatever you
want to do.
If you want to spend it on somejays, you want to spend it on
some.
I ain't going to say some weedbecause I ain't promoting it,
but if that's what, you're doing, I mean you get the gist of it.
But you want to do thatresponsible stuff first.
That means putting you knowwe're off IRA.

(26:12):
That means putting money inthis, this and that, even if
it's $5.
You're doing that shit first.

DeLaw (26:26):
Because I even told her.
I said point now where?
So I just got my wife on myphone plan, so my wife is only
paying like 30 a month to me,and then the netflix also comes
through it too.
So instead of us paying 27 amonth, she's paying 18 a month.
So she's just giving me 48 amonth to cover her part of phone
bill and the netflix and Icover the rest of.
I didn't tell her that her realportion of the phone bill was
$65,000.
I said I already pay $100,000in this amount anyway, so I'll

(26:50):
just keep paying that.
Just give me the extra $48,000.
You saved yourself some money toput towards something else.
And that's kind of the sameconcept that I'm always trying
to instill in him.
It's not about what you.
It's always going to be aboutwhat you can budget to do.
So if we tell you it's $150, ifyou're like well, man, this

(27:12):
phone bill is $100, some odddollars, and I say, well, look,
that's not the phone bill foryou, mark.
Hey, look, if you want to comeover to my phone plan, you're
just going to have to send me$65 a month, however you break
that down.
It's however you break it down.
But it's one of those things,like I'm not trying to handicap

(27:34):
them, I mean I've even offeredto my wife.
I said, look, I can put you andhim on my phone bill Back when
the business was making a lot ofmoney.
And that's what I said.
The business was making a lotof money and I told her.
I said, if the business gets toa point where we're making just
a lot of money and I got enoughmoney to cover the phone bill,
I would even tell you hey, don'teven worry about it, it's

(27:55):
covered.
Thank everyone, thank everybodythat needs to do possibly help
me write a newsletter.
So everybody think you knowwhat I'm saying.
If you want to contribute to it, you know, once the business
starts really rolling and allthat, just do that for me.
That's easy, that's easy money.
So I could always add him to itfor $65,000.

(28:23):
I wouldn't cover his because,you know, at this point now
you're about to be 18 year man,so all the only thing my
responsibility is to do now isreduce costs.
Yeah, so if just like, uh, howmy parents, when I, when me and
my wife got married, um, myinsurance was still covered by
my parents on my car because Istill had my ultimate.

(28:46):
Now, it wasn't that I, itwasn't like something, oh well,
you know, but it was.
The car was under their name,the car was just in my
possession, my car, my namewasn't on the insurance or
nothing, but the car was insuredby there.
So they still pay the insuranceon the car Once I got my car I
got.
Now, I, me and me and my wife,we covered that.
So that came off their bill.
But you know what you know, youstill kind of give grace to your

(29:10):
children, even though they'regetting older, based on just
what you know, the circumstancesare and that's what you know as
a parent.
That I've been trying to do isall right.
Well, babe, I can cover thisfor you and this and we can
reduce this for you.
Do you want to do it?
Oh no, I want to do it.
I said, okay, cool, mind you,she didn't want to come over to
T-Mobile for the longest, forthe longest she didn't want to

(29:33):
come over.

Wes (29:34):
For what?

DeLaw (29:36):
Oh, you know the bills are too much and you pay a
hundred some odd dollars.
I said yeah, because I gotinsurance on my phone.
I have a watch and my phoneplan.

Wes (29:45):
All the phone plans are pretty much damn near the same.

DeLaw (29:48):
Yeah, and so I just took the insurance off my phone
because I'm like I didn't haveall these phones for God knows
how long and ain't nothinghappened to them.
The current phone I do have.
At one point the screen stoppedcoming on for a quick four
minutes.
It scared the shit out of meand they ordered a phone for me

(30:10):
to be sent to a t-mobile, alocal t-mobile store.
And then the phone popped backon.
I was like, oh lord, lord.
I was like, oh god, but it'sjust one of those things I'm
like you know, if you take goodcare of your phone, I take good
care of my phone.
I got my wife all this.
Like, look, what's 30 you'repaying?
You're paying 55 to be withboost mobile by t-mobile.
Why not just give me 30?
Right, give me 30, you saveyourself 20.

(30:33):
Give me another, give meanother 18 and you need you save
11 on netflix or nine dollarson netflix.
Like, like, let me, let meleave, let me leave you as the
head of the table of our house,right To save money for you.
You know what I'm saying, likea lot of times I think, for for
me and my wife and I think for alot of married couples is.

(30:54):
A lot of times.
Women have so many badexperiences with men.
They find it hard for a man whowill, who will think things
through and say, okay, look,that's what we're going to do
because it's going to save usmoney.
They have a hard time followingbecause they've had so many
experience with them.
People not following through.

Wes (31:09):
I don't really have that situation.
She don't have that mindset atall.
She was, we was just talkingand she was like, uh, she saw
this thing on tiktok orsomething.
I was like I'm uh, I'm ahusband's girl, like, whatever
my husband say, whatever myhusband say, go away.
He always leave you the rightdirection.
I was like I've never heard thatterm because I don't know

(31:30):
instagram and shit like that butmy wife ain't really.
Uh, my wife has had experiencewhere she's been with guys that
ain't that weren't good withtheir money and stuff like that,
where she saw them blowing it,but it ain't never really affect
her in general.
And at the same time, when meand my wife got together, I kind
of put uh some structure intoher finances and stuff like that

(31:51):
.
Not that I'm uh paying overly,paying for everything, but she's
seeing how I move and it's not.
It's not about how much youmake, it's about being
disciplined on what the moneyyou do make, right, you see that
sometimes like you don't need alot of money to do certain
things, but uh, apparently rightnow you need to do need a lot
of money grocery shopping andthat's.

DeLaw (32:12):
That's a whole, nother situation she went, she said she
brought eggs yesterday and Iwas like, well, how much?
She's like a dollar.
So I was like what?
And I said I?
I said I went to Trader Joe's.
I got mine for $3.99.
I'm like, come on, I see theprices going up slowly and
Trader Joe's the one in Columbia.

(32:33):
What they've been doing is youonly can get one dozen, you
can't get 18.
You can't get 18.
You can't take two packs ofeggs.
It's literally one per person.

Wes (32:48):
Yeah, that's how they cut down on the price.

DeLaw (32:50):
Which is good, which is smart, because at this point,
when we were in Florida, I gotsix eggs twice, because we were
down there for enough days thatI needed to get eggs two times
and both time eggs cost me $3.
Because we were down there forenough days that I needed to get
eggs two times and both timeeggs cost me $3 for six eggs.
And I'm like yo, this isfucking crazy.

(33:12):
I might as well have brought adozen.

Wes (33:14):
Gone are those good days where eggs was like the max
you'll pay is like $2.40.
$2.40.

DeLaw (33:19):
And look and up until about last month I was only
paying like $2.79 for a dozeneggs from Trader Joe's.
Today was the first time that Ipaid $3.99, because I got brown
eggs for $3.29 two weeks agofrom Trader Joe's and today I

(33:40):
got large white eggs for $3.99.
Now some of their eggs werelike $5, so their prices are
going up.
I got large white eggs for$3.99.
Now some of their eggs werelike $5, so their price is going
up.
But they are trying theirhardest to keep egg prices down.

Wes (33:51):
Yeah, I mean it'll come around.
A lot of it is because of thebird flu shit, so I don't know
if that has been how can I putit?
Contained a little bit, but ofcourse a lot of it is inflation
and shit.

DeLaw (34:06):
I would even take him, put our kid putting money
towards groceries.
Alright, well, give me, youknow, get $150 to your mother.
Let your mother put it towardsgroceries, yeah, or towards, or.

Wes (34:22):
We just put it in a the tricky thing with that is, um,
because I've been in a situationbecause you ain't have, you
ain't never had to pay, I had topay.
The tricky situation is and I'mputting myself in his shoes
during that time that I was, uh,that age.
Is that um me not feeling like,um, I'm one, I'm doing it for

(34:45):
nothing.
Two, I'm doing it just so youcan use my money.
And my mom did not do a good jobof making me feel that way,
because I never seen where itwas going and I was buying my
own food.
She made me like.
She was like like one time, youknow, like how you buy a case
of water and stuff, I might havedrunk like two or three bottles
within or whatever, whatever.

(35:06):
She was like you're drinkingtoo much water, you won't have
to buy your own case.
And I'm like what the fuck?
I'm giving you money?
Now I got to do all this otherstuff too, so now it became like
I'm living on my own in a houseand giving, yeah, but listen,
I'm making maybe $200 a check or$300 a check.

(35:29):
So how much could I afford topay?
I mean you know, that's why I'msaying there has to be some
balance, because or else he'sgoing to start resenting the
situation and resenting y'all.

DeLaw (35:43):
I hear what you're saying and it sounds good, but it's
one of them things there'sdifferent boundaries for his
mindset there's differentboundaries between me and him,
me and her and them too.
Oh, I know that, you know theydon't.
They don't have no boundarieswith each other.

(36:03):
Oh so well, outside looking at,yeah, they don't look like
there's a boundary, but thereisn't like a boundary like with
me and them too.
Yeah, I got you because there'sa boundary, but there isn't like
a boundary like with me,because there's some things like
nah, we ain't doing that, andif he, I can see it now, alright

(36:27):
.
Well, we don't have enough food.
Why give you $150 for food?
Why we ain't got no food inhere?
I can hear that and see thatcoming out his mouth and me
looking at him like but you'realso going to be well.

Wes (36:39):
I gave you $300.
There ain't no food either way.
You're looking at the samething or not, because 300.

DeLaw (36:45):
She already told him off the fact 300 a month.
Now you know that's 150.
A check is going to themortgage.

Wes (36:53):
She already told us.
I see what you're saying, soit's kind of like everything
else is going to stay the same.
Just know that this is whatwe're saying is going towards
and shouldn't be no issues fromthere.
If you want more food, you'regoing to have to figure that out
.
If you want new drawers, youmight have to figure that out.
Want some shoes?
You won't have to figure thatout.

DeLaw (37:12):
If you ran out of oodles and noodles that your mother
brought you, you won't have tofigure it out what's the initial
thing that we provided for youwas gone.

Wes (37:21):
Mortgage is the best way to go about this.

DeLaw (37:26):
This goes towards the mortgage.
You're absolutely right.
You know, once, once, whateversnacks that your mother brought
you off the back is gone.

Wes (37:35):
Don't look over in the cabinet that me and your mother
had, because that was the otherissue.

DeLaw (37:38):
That's the other issue me and her had the other day was.
I was like you know, you guysdon't have no boundaries In his
head.
That's your cabinet.
So if you took something out ofhis cabinet, he's taking
something out of yours.
He don't give a shit who it is,but at the end of the day, I'm
the only one here.
Hey, babe, is this yours?
Oh no, that's his.
Okay, cool, do you want it?
Nope, you said it's his, Iain't buying it.

Wes (38:00):
It's his like, that's not me there's a boundary of.

DeLaw (38:03):
If I know I didn't pay for it, I'm going to ask whose
it is before I even attempt totry and eat it, and that's not
the boundary that you guys havewith each other.
So, like him coming into thebedroom and taking your stuff,
or coming into the bedroom forwhatever reason, take Q-tips to
clean his ears Like nigga, justbuy some goddamn Q-tips.
If you make enough money, go doit.

(38:24):
And I keep trying.
I always try to explain toy'all.
This is horrible.

Wes (38:31):
Don't y'all got a community space for those types of things
though?

DeLaw (38:37):
No, so I provide, I buy all the toilet paper and paper
towels.
So if he does need paper towelsor toilet paper or whatever,
then yes, he does have to comein and get some toilet paper, or
his mother might go in thereand look and put something in
there.
Oh, he has his own bathroom.
He has his own bathroom.
I got you, I just buy thetoilet paper.
Oh, he has his own bathroom, hehas his own bathroom.
I got you.
I just buy the toilet paper asa hope.
Yeah, I got you, you know, as ahope.

(38:59):
But if we're being honest, Idon't think this little nigga
like his ass anymore.
Oh, my gosh man, look, look,look, hit me up, hit me up, hit
me up, hit me up, hit me up.
We'll put three rolls in hisbathroom today.
He might still have two and ahalf rolls in a month and a half

(39:22):
.

Wes (39:25):
How do you know he ain't taking this shit somewhere else?

DeLaw (39:28):
I'm just saying Most of my shits are at the house
because I'm that regular thatway that I got to take a shit in
the morning.
Look, we done gave him liquidsoap to refill his soap thing,
where, if we got refills downhere, he still has the same
amount of soap.
That I saw when we, when thepledgers came and cleaned his
back from a month ago.
I'm like nigga, are you washingyour hands?

Wes (39:51):
Like what you?
You got another whole situationon your hands.

DeLaw (39:58):
It's one of those things and I know, even though mom has
initiated all this, it's alwaysgoing to be frowned upon me as a
stepdad to say, okay, well,this is how I expect this to be,
because then it comes off beingharsh, because now it's like
well, that's my baby, why wouldwe do that?

(40:19):
Well, you want him to be livinghere forever.

Wes (40:22):
I'm going to tell you like this, it ain't even a stepdad
situation.
Sometimes that could be yourbiological son and the mother
would act that way, even though,like, the stepdad situation is
very, very tricky as far as,like, the dynamics between you
know, the relationship betweenthe, you know, uh, your wife,
the wife and the childthemselves is very, very unique,
very, very challengingsometimes.

(40:43):
But listen, I have friends whothey're what it's their son is
biologically as well, and ordaughter biologically as well,
and they just act that way, likecan't nobody tell them what
their kids should do other thanthem, even though it's not only
their kid, but still expect youto do all the grimy, dirty work

(41:04):
when they don't want to do it or, you know, pay for everything.
It's like yo, I gotta have somesay so, it is my child.

DeLaw (41:10):
I mean, I look at it when it boils down to it that I get
it.
You're going to always pickyour child over me.
I get it.
I get it that you know as muchas they're.
Oh no, your wife finds you tobe.

(41:31):
You're very important in yourwife's life, I said.
But unlike some of these oldschoolers or what it says, I'm
not my wife's most importantthing.
I might be in the top 10 no, Iwon't say top 10 man.
She married you hey look, shemarried me, but that doesn't
mean I'm top 5, I can name allfive people.

Wes (41:56):
I will hope to see, even though this is still bad.
I will hope top five and nottop ten, because I understand
the nature of the situation.

DeLaw (42:04):
I can guarantee you, even if I was to round off who I
felt was more important and,mind you, I'm not saying I'm not
bringing this up.

Wes (42:17):
Have y'all ever discussed that?

DeLaw (42:18):
Yeah, I've discussed it with her and she's like it's
just tripping, Okay.

Wes (42:26):
But in my thing is like, let our woman say some shit like
that to us, we gotta take thatshit serious.
We face on remotely close tothat.
You're tripping, you'retripping, yeah, you're tripping.
Walks off sandwich and shit.
And I'm like yo, I was comingto you and your phone will say
how I feel about this situationand I'm tripping, but I can't

(42:47):
see you crazy and that's thebiggest issue I've ever always
had.

DeLaw (42:51):
Like me and the wife, it seems like if you say it, I got
to listen to it.
Well, I'm telling you thisbecause if I just one day up and
roll out and pack my stuff andleave you, I don't want you to
be surprised.
So in my head I'm like so whatif I just say it, if I don't
feel like I'm important to you,I'm just up and leave because
clearly you don't want me here.

Wes (43:17):
And the crazy thing is yours is.
I mean, I don't know what she'sdiscussed with you, but the
whole, the whole thought of aman feeling like he's not valued
or important.
I'm not gonna say it trumpswhatever a woman is feeling, but
it hits us.
I would say it hits us harderwhen we're supposed to be the
providers and the protectors andstuff like that.
So basically you're saying Iain't really doing much of
nothing, you don't see anythingin me to respect or hold me high

(43:40):
, in high regard.
Feels crazy, yeah.

DeLaw (43:46):
It do feel crazy because last week when we talked and I
told her, I said you know, Ijust want to be appreciated,
important and felt like you know, I just want to be appreciated,
important and felt like youknow that I'm worth something
here.

Wes (43:57):
You got some say-so in this house.

DeLaw (43:59):
Right, I said because what it always seems like
because you know there's alwaysthe complaint of that I'm making
people feel uncomfortable inthis house, or I'm making her
son feel uncomfortable in thehouse and he can't do this or
eat this house, or I'm makingher son feel uncomfortable in
the house and he can't do thisor eat this.
I'm like it's never been that.
I feel like you're incompetition with him.

(44:21):
I said, well, no, I'm not incompetition with him, but you
also have to understand thatthis little nigga thinks he's
your husband.
He thinks that you're supposedto be what he wants you to do.
And then, as soon as I saysomething like hey, baby, well,
I can't get no rest, I keepasking about shit.
But you just took the littlenigga wherever he wanted to go,

(44:42):
and I'm just like hey, this,this and this, oh man, I can't
get no rest.
Like he asked me to do this.
I'm like so I get the.

Wes (44:51):
I get the backseat of everything.
You get the backseat ofeverything.
You get the backseat ofeverything where he still gets
his knees met while she pushesthrough.
But you're like, yo do a littlepushing through for me and it's
just like I ain't doing it.

DeLaw (44:59):
Right, like you'll run out and go visit your sister,
you'll run out and go visit youraunt and uncle.
And if I'm like, hey, babe, youwant to like, let's say you
invite me out to go to Wes'splace for 4th of July or
whatever, I mean, do I have to?
Well, I would like you to mybrother.

(45:21):
He invited us over.
My brother's never met my wife.
He didn't come to the reception.
He had an ear infection.
He's, like you know, tell yourwife y'all got to come through
one time and come hang out.
I said, yeah, he wants us tocome.
It's like, well, even thoughsome people are like, well,
that's not her not showing upfor it.

(45:41):
But if I want you to meet mybrother, my brother that's not
by my mother, he's by my father.
To me that's important becauseyou said you value family.

Wes (45:55):
I got a question for you because I don't.
I, I personally don't do this.
Uh, I don't think I ever have,but uh, I think my mom, I
brought it to my attention ofsomebody else, maybe one of my
own girls.
Like when we be saying this toour wives, right, sometimes I
don't say not.
Sometimes, a lot of times, Idon't say yo, this is going to
be really important.

(46:15):
I don't say it with an urgencyand a tone that she understands.
You better not say no, yo, thisis really important to me, this
means a lot.
You're my wife, he needs to, Ineed to.
Whatever, whatever, whatever.
She'll still say no because Ihaven't tried this yet.

DeLaw (46:34):
That's a whole different conversation.
Remember the conversation whenI asked her to take the cat to
and I was like you know, are youfree that day If I pay for
everything?

Wes (46:45):
can you?
No, that's not what I'm saying.
What I'm saying is herunderstanding like above
anything.
I'm not giving you a way towiggle out this above anything.
I'm not giving you a way towiggle out.

DeLaw (46:56):
This is important.
I need you to do this.

Wes (46:58):
You do that, cause I don't do that and I probably should.

DeLaw (47:01):
It looked one in the same .
I can say that and I think,like the same response I told
you she gave me for the cat, doyou not know?
I mean, I'm tired and this isinitial.
Give me that a whole run nowwhether it's.
But he really wants to meet you.
I really want you to come meetmy brother, you know, cause he
is family.

Wes (47:21):
You've got nieces and nephews.
You just say no and not saylike another date or something,
nope, just.

DeLaw (47:25):
I mean, do I have to?
Well, you know why don't youjust go?
And you know you should bespending more time with your
family anyway, Like it's alwaysthis uh uh, uh.
So I'm like, okay, cool, that'swhy that's what frustrated me
about the whole thing with thecat like so he's your cat too,
I'm paying for everything.
All I need you to do is takethem.

(47:45):
Like, if you can't, say youcan't, and remember I told you
she she didn't say she couldn't,she just wants you give a whole
long drawn out thing about howdid I consider her time and
things she needs to do andeverything else.

Wes (47:59):
See, the thing is not considering her time and saying
that's what you're going to do.
I'm asking you if you can.
This is considering your time,because this is the time to say
I can't at this time, can we doit tomorrow?
And I can say you know what?
This can wait till tomorrow at2 pm.
If you got the time tomorrow at2 pm, let's do it Like it takes
a.
You know what I mean Back andforth communication type thing.

DeLaw (48:22):
At the end of the day, top 10 important things are a
lot.
You know I'm not for divorces.
I'll work through it andeverything else.
But like, if, if she going tobe like where do you think you
fall on my importance list and Iwould tell her, but you already
told her though.
Yeah, well, she askedspecifically where do I think I

(48:46):
fall on her importance list?
I just was emphasizing, when wewere having our Sunday
discussion, that I don't EverySunday, every Sunday 3 o.
You know Y'all have a Sundaydiscussion.

Wes (48:54):
Yeah, every Sunday, every Sunday 3 o'clock, yeah my wife
Because we be doing a trailtogether now.
So I always tend to be like atSaturday mornings and shit, we
just be talking about anythingand everything as we walk in.

DeLaw (49:08):
Yeah, like our Sunday discussion starts at 4.
And we talk and we, you know,we have a book that guides us
through it, most specific things, and I told her.
I said I just want to, I justwant to know that I'm important
to you and that I'm appreciatedand that you know.
And then a lot and mind you forthat whole session.

(49:29):
I think I put them all fivetimes of importance, importance,
appreciated importance.
Sometimes I don't feel that I'mimportant to you.
I feel like you, you valueeverything you need done, but
never once think like well, howwas my husband feel about you?
Like, yeah, like you.
Like, even, like for family,like gathering, well, I mean, I

(49:50):
don't really want to go.
You need to go so that you canhang out with your family,
because they always want you tocome.
Why am I going to an eventwhere they invited me and you
and your child to go by myself,for them to ask me a hundred
times why is not your wife andson?

Wes (50:05):
here.
She don't like going to familyfunctions.

DeLaw (50:08):
No, she don't, but it'd be for other reasons.
Nothing against them, but it'dbe for other reasons.
Nothing against them.
It'd be something that I mighthave did that day.
And she'd be like you know what.
Let's say, I pissed her off bynot washing something.
You know what I done, told youthis All right, whatever, you
know what.
And she'll go upstairs, she'llbe mad, she'll come down and

(50:29):
just so you know, I'm not goingto eat dinner at your mom's
house, so you can go, have fun.
You need to spend time withthem.
And I'll tell her I ain't goingif you ain't going.

Wes (50:37):
That's a cop out man.
I ain't gonna lie to you.

DeLaw (50:41):
If you ain't going, I ain't going.
Why am I going to go to AuntKim's house?
That's where we're going.
We're a family, we're a unit.
If If you go on to our camphouse, I'm going with you.

Wes (50:52):
If we stay at home and cook , but I don't know if you're
saying what you're saying.
Y'all went to our camp house.

DeLaw (50:59):
No, she's in my mother's house.

Wes (51:01):
Oh, never mind, Then you see him with her.

DeLaw (51:04):
Yeah, okay, because what happened was she was like oh
okay, I'm coming, I'm coming,I'm coming.
I said, okay, cool.
She was like I said, well, Igotta go pick up Thurston and
I'm like my cousin and I'll meetyou there.
So I called her like where youat, I ain't coming.
Oh, okay, Well, bring me homesome cake.
No, you ain't gonna bring mehome.

(51:24):
No, if you want some food,bring your ass here and come get
it.
I no, I'm not bringing shithome.
I'm not bringing no plate homefor you.
No, nothing, because you saidyou was coming.
So I'm here and come.
I don't want to.
Okay, I'll get a call probably10 minutes later.
I'll run away, okay.

Wes (51:47):
Yo y'all are.
Why y'all so petty with eachother, man?
That's a good question.

DeLaw (52:00):
Because I just don don't understand.
Y'all don't even have realproblems.

Wes (52:03):
We really don't have any real problems, it's just because
it's kind of like well, I gottago through all this just for
you to be over here anyway, andwhy would you say I ain't going
because I ain't washed thedishes that was?

DeLaw (52:16):
just an example.
I think it was something a lotdeeper than that.
It had something that I reallypissed her off with.
I get it and her way.
I think my wife hasn't figuredit out.

Wes (52:27):
My question is is it always like when a family this is me
outside looking when familyfunctions come about?
Is there always a she does?
She always find a way to getout of going no, like.

DeLaw (52:40):
It's like like right now we're slated to go to Myrtle
Beach.
So let's say, something happensand she's real pissed off at me
and he's close to that trip, orwhatever she might say.
You know what?
I ain't going to Myrtle Beachwith y'all, i'm'm going to stay
at home, I'm going to figure outmy own fucking trip, blah, blah
, blah, blah.

Wes (52:56):
Okay, so she's just saying shit out of anger, basically.

DeLaw (52:59):
Yeah, that's how it comes off, and what my wife doesn't
understand is that, first off, Iain't even want to go to the
goddamn trip anyway.

Wes (53:07):
My wife does the same thing .
Sometimes.
I'm like yo, because here's thething as, as husbands, as men,
we don't want to go through theprocess of you fuck which when
you will, when you change yourmind.
I don't want to go through theprocess of like well, she ain't
going.
Let me finalize that she ain'tgoing just for her to be like
well, why would you do that andthis, this and that?
Now I'm going through all this,fuck shit, I, I.

(53:29):
The same thing happens to mewhen she's mad why ain't doing
this?
No more, why ain't going?
I don't want to do this.
And I'm like, oh, you'rehurting yourself.
Like deal with your feelings,please do, and we'll revisit
this, but don't do somethingthat's going to be definite and
finite.
You know what I mean.

DeLaw (53:45):
You know what?
Because you're like, well, youneed to go with your family, you
need to go.
You and in my head, first off Iain't even going the damn trip
to begin with.
Or I ain't gonna go to my mom'shouse for east anyway, because
I'm like, oh, we could do someshit here.
Yeah, we're going.
You know she's like we'realready going because you and in
my head I'm like, nigga, weonly going because of you.

(54:05):
Because if I had a choice, Itold mom you know, we're not
gonna, we're gonna just cook athome like we got busy we coming
up.
I'd have made something up ifwe stayed home.
I don't want your mom to thinkthat I was the reason for you
not coming.
Why would my mom think that?
My mom already knows that Idon't really like doing shit If

(54:28):
you don't revolve arounddrinking or sports or video
games, she knows I ain't reallyinto doing it and I think for
you I'll go out and do whateveryou want me to do because you're
my wife.

Wes (54:38):
I need that same respect All right, I'm the same way with
that.
It's like yo.
Sometimes us as men, we soconditioned to like yo, your
wife gonna have you doing somefucking goofy ass shit out here,
shit that you don't really wantto do, but you do it because
you love her and it might leadto some respect and some pussy
at the end of the day.

DeLaw (54:56):
I don't even do all that, I always bring it in.
I guess it's just the pettyside of it.
She'd be like oh, can you gopick up the food?
Why am I picking up the food?
Well, because I don't feel likegoing.
I said I order our food all thetime.
I go pick it up.
And you made a whole argumentabout how I ordered cat litter

(55:18):
from Petco and you told me ohyeah, no, no, I'll go pick it up
, I'll go pick it up, I'll gopick it up.
And then it turned around youcall me, I'm pulling up in the
driveway, not in the driveway inthe parking lot.
And you told can you go pick upthe cat litter?
They told you the cat litterwas ready at 8 o'clock.
You had all day to go get thatdamn cat litter.
Why am I going to go get catlitter when you've been home all

(55:39):
day?
I looked at the ring camera.
You ain't left the house alldamn day, I said, and I told her
.
I said I always go pick upstuff that I own.
I said, well, what are we doing?
She's like if you order it, yougotta go get it.

Wes (55:53):
Yo, this is one of those situations where it's not really
even a problem.
It's just.
I don't understand what y'alltalking about.

DeLaw (56:03):
My argument was if you weren't going to go pick it up,
I would have had it delivered.
That was my argument.

Wes (56:10):
Yeah, which is a good fucking argument, but it's also
one of those things like yo uh,everybody needs to have some
accountability in this fuckingrelationship.
If you don't feel like if you,if you don't feel like doing it
now, then you should have got itordered, so down the
accountable part is or.
What you now have to do is goget it, because I just came home
from work.
I'm about to go back out when Ihave my.

(56:32):
Oh, you get home, you get closeto home.
You got your heart set ontaking off your pants doing this
.
It might be a cold beer in arefrigerator waiting on you.

DeLaw (56:40):
Drinking your vodka.

Wes (56:41):
Exactly, you're delaying me from you being lazy.
That's mean, and you only haveto drive.
I'm a weird type of guy becauseyou do everything in the house
now.

DeLaw (56:53):
And you only have to drive seven minutes, if that, to
get the cab.

Wes (56:57):
And I've been driving.

DeLaw (56:59):
I've been driving 30, 40 minutes both ways and I told her
.
I said, even if you leave it inthe trunk, I'll get it out.
I'll get it out and bring it upthe stairs Just to go out my
way to go get it To me.
I'm like, come on, I'm a bigbeliever.
If they say you need to put $35on that shit to get a free

(57:19):
delivery, I will spend $35fucking dollars.

Wes (57:22):
You need a new toy.
You don't need a new toy.

DeLaw (57:26):
I done brought packs of noodles.
I'm like damn it's at $34.20.
Fuck, what can I buy for adollar and some?

Wes (57:35):
change.
Listen, I feel you that $35won't get spent.
I feel you.

DeLaw (57:40):
Don't bully me.
If PESCO was like you know, youget free shipping if you spend
$30, I would have spent $30 andgot free shipping on the
motherfucking and had that shitshipped right here to the house
and you wouldn't have had toleave the door.
You could have told the kid togo out and go pick it up and
bring it up.
But you know, and I'm like, canyou go get the food?

(58:02):
Why?
Why am I getting food?
I said you ordered it.
I'll ride with you and go inthere and get it for you, but I
don't want to drive.
You've been home all day, wantto drive.
You've been home all day.
You ain't drove nowhere all day.
I done drove back and forth towork, did all this other stuff,
and you want me to go and pickup food that you ordered because
you didn't want to cook.
Huh, I'll ride with you, I'llgo in and go get it.

(58:26):
Yeah, but no, we don't haveissues.

Wes (58:32):
No, I don't my wife be pulling the same type of stuff.
When it comes, the same thing.
Like I get home like oh, Iordered blah, blah, blah, I was
about to leave out, can you goget it.
I'm like, no, I gotta take ashit.
Like nah, I'm not going out togo do that.
And a part of me thinks is, youknow, like your wife kind of got

(58:53):
that.
Of course you got that softspot in your, in your heart.
But I'm like don't play that,don't play that too much,
because I'm going to say no toeverything Because you're you're
what is the word?
You're taking that for granted.
Like yes, I'm your husband, Iwant to do whatever I can do to
make you comfortable and loveand stuff like that.
But when it becomes egregiousand outrageous, where it seems

(59:15):
like you're taking advantage ofthat, my defenses kick up and
I'm like you're going to get anasshole part of me and it's
always going to be a no.
Like you're going to getsomething slicked back like you
should have did yourself whileyou've been lazy.
Like that's what you're goingto get if you continue to have
that type of behavior.

DeLaw (59:31):
Because shoot even like the day she said she's going to
go out and grill.
She's going to go out and grill.
I'm like all right, cool,whatever she's like.
Well, yeah, can you start thegriller flow?
Okay, that's fine.

Wes (59:44):
I can do that all day.
I ain't watching the meat soonthat motherfucker.

DeLaw (59:50):
Normally if I'm going to grill, I would I turn on low.
I come record.
You know.
I already know we're going torecord for an hour or two hours.
I already know, before I record, turn that chicken, put it on
low, low and let it just cook,cook.
And she was like can you startthe grill for me?

(01:00:11):
It's like wait, you're notgoing to go and like take it
over for me if I get started onthe chicken now.

Wes (01:00:17):
And he said that's the purpose of alcohol grill.
Not you going to poke it for alittle bit and flip some things.
You need to be out there from Ato Z, beginning to end.

DeLaw (01:00:26):
I said good luck.
Yeah, I mean you start doing it.

Wes (01:00:32):
Your wife will try to play you.
My wife will do the.
Your wife you try to play you.
My wife you the same type ofshit, though try to play.
Like I don't feel like doingthis shit, no more.
I'm like, nah, this is just.
These, certain things I don'teven agree to because I already
know how she will be, and I'mjust like, no, I'm not, I'm not,
I'm not gonna allow you toupset me, because I already know
how this won't play out becauseit was, it was my thing.

DeLaw (01:00:50):
What I was originally going to do is because she was
only going to grill chicken andI was like you know, at the end
of the day I'll prep the corn.
And I was like I'm going to getsome hamburgers, I'm going to
put some on there too.
And then I was like if I dothat, then it turns into that
I'm grilling.

Wes (01:01:06):
I'm like, nah, I ain't doing that shit Because I ain't
grilling she tried to get youshe tried to get you, she tried,
she tried it, she tried itmaybe subconsciously throw some
fish on that motherfucker andsome other shit, and they she
tried it.

DeLaw (01:01:24):
What she?
Oh, I get it, you know you.
But like she, she explicitlysaid.
I said, okay, she was like ohwell, you know, I don't do these
particular things because thoseare men jobs, oh, I mean what?
So I she was like well, youknow, I always feel like I gotta
do everything myself.
I said, well, you don't changethe return of your interest, you

(01:01:48):
don't go outside the house andpull the lint out of the room
and on the outside, you know.
You know, because you know theheat hasn't come out of the
house, so there, the lint out ofthe little gut on the outside.
You know, because you know theheat hasn't come out of the
house, so there's lint that getstrapped in the little lint trap
on the outside of the house.
That's why you don't go outthere and do that.
You don't.
You don't wash and clean Leo'swater fountain.

Wes (01:02:12):
Yo, I think I might have said this to you before, do you?
Uh and I said I think I said onthis podcast too do you think
that when y'all got married thatshe had a perception of how the
marriage was gonna go?
Like she wasn't, she wasn'tgonna be doing nothing.
Somehow, some way she felt thatyou know what I mean?

(01:02:33):
There's still the kid involved,there's still domestic stuff
that you got to do, likecleaning up certain things, and
whatever, whatever, whatever.
It's not going to disappear.

DeLaw (01:02:46):
I think what happened was when she got married, she took
the 15 years she spent with herson's father and she threw it
into our relationship and saidthat I'm not going to do the
same years she spent with herson's father and she threw it
into our relationship and saidthat I'm not going to do the
same shit I did with this niggafor 15 years so what you are,
you just shouldn't have to do asmuch.

Wes (01:03:04):
Does that make sense?

DeLaw (01:03:06):
apparently she did everything she cooked, she
cleaned, she fucked, she shut up.
She did all of them.
Yeah, but you?
But you get what I'm saying,see.
So she did all that for a niggathat didn't appreciate her and
everything else was abusive andeverything else.
So now she gets into arelationship with me, she's
bringing all that with her, like, well, this is what this thing
so it's like you bringing in awhole bag of this is what this

(01:03:28):
nigga did to me, and if you doany of these things, I'm gonna
be, I'm gonna and I'm going toleave you.
It's like how do I get lumpedinto the fact that you decided
to deal with that stupidity for10 years?
Yeah, I know, I didn't.
I ain't ever hit you.
I cook, I go outside and grill.
I try to do everything to makeyour life easier.

(01:03:49):
I try to reduce your finances,not increase them.
I feel like I do everythingaround.
Like the thing with thepainting the other day we were,
uh, so we got a contract to cometo the paint.
The painters painted the stuffand they still missed some spots
and she wanted to go and do itherself.
I said, and when the guys leftthe same day, I said take a

(01:04:11):
picture of everything that'swrong, send it to the guy and
tell him that you come and fixit.
Yesterday she was like well, Ifind it strange how I'm about to
sit here and wipe this stuffdown, all this paint on the
stuff, and you're not eventrying to help to figure out
what we need to do.
I said I've already told you tocall these motherfuckers to
come back and fix it.

Wes (01:04:30):
Why are we fixing their job ?

DeLaw (01:04:32):
Right, we're fixing their job and all we got to do is
have them do their job Like why,why no?
To me it makes no sense If Ipay Wes to DJ my party and he.

Wes (01:04:48):
I'm up there on the turntables and he eating chicken
.
What's going on?

DeLaw (01:04:55):
Like, if I'm just like, just like, alright, well, he
leaves 30 minutes early and thejob ain't done, I'm not going to
get on there and start tryingto play songs myself.
No, I'm going to call hey, thejob ain't done.
I need you to finish this outnow if you want to cut out at
the 30 minutes.
I'm talking your pay right,like you know something, and
that's how it is.
Oh well, I just felt like Icould just do it myself.

(01:05:17):
No, and that, and I'm likethat's what you got to get out,
that's what she needs to get outof this.
Trying to do some like that'show the whole thing would that's
.

Wes (01:05:26):
That's uh.
If, from my experience, justbecause I grew up with this type
of woman, that's a single momtype uh behavior, she ain't.
It's gonna be very hard for herto um get out of that.
She'll get better, no doubt.
I ain't saying that she won't,but, um, I understand it because
my mom like that to this tothis day, to the point where I'm
like yo, sit your ass.

(01:05:46):
You shouldn't be doing this, nomore.
You about to be 60, sit down.
You know what I mean like.

DeLaw (01:05:52):
That's what I keep saying .
I'm'm, like you know you overhere complaining about the job
that these guys gave and did youpaying them?
He gave you a one-year warrantythat they will come out and fix
anything that is wrong.
Why are we doing it Exactly?
You know, it ain't like he puttogether a program that dealt

(01:06:13):
with math and I said, oh, I canfix this real quick.

Wes (01:06:15):
Even if you could, I could I wouldn't, but yeah, but I paid
for it.
I'm not in the business of mepaying for something and then
fixing the issue.

DeLaw (01:06:24):
Because, like, even with even when we got those next
things the first time I hadanother guy to comment that
messed them up.
You was in there and staying inthere and then getting mad at
me because I wouldn't help you.
I'm like you're getting mad atme for a job you paid somebody
to do.
Like, come on, like yeah, likeI remember my mom was uh, I

(01:06:46):
forgot what it was somebody wasbringing something to the house
and they were like, well, howcome you didn't help him bring
it up?
He gets paid to do that.
Like that's why he looked atyou so weird that you just kind
of looked at him as he broughtthe stuff up.
Why am I helping him bringsomething, man, he's paid to do?
I don't get paid.
That's like.
That's like going through theself-checkout.

Wes (01:07:05):
That's why he looked at you like you know.
He probably did that because hewas like well, I ain't have to
do this, be, uh, y'all paid meto do this and just kind of like
yeah, like it is what it is,I'm not paying somebody and
helping them right, because Iopened the door for him and I
didn't bring it in the house.

DeLaw (01:07:20):
He was taking stuff off the truck and then he brought it
in the house.
Well, why didn't you help himand bring it in the house for
him?
I said because he gets paid todo it.
Now, mind you, I'm gonna do itat this point.
When I say that yeah, and shewas like, oh Lord, so my mom's
trying to help, I'm like why areyou helping a mom?
He already eaten.

Wes (01:07:37):
She gonna help him to make you help him.
She gonna help him to make youhelp him because you don't feel
like she should be doing it.
My mom would do the same thing,and now I'm stuck doing
something that I didn't need Iwasn't supposed to be doing in
the first place.

DeLaw (01:07:52):
I don't believe in self-checkout.
I mean, I don't believe in.
Now here's my reason why If I'ma self-checkout, do I get a
discount?
Yeah, you do.
No, you don't.

Wes (01:08:03):
Whether you take those discounts, that's on you.

DeLaw (01:08:06):
I mean those are the discounts.
What's the discount of the shitthey try and get out?
They store?

Wes (01:08:11):
whether you take those discounts, that's on you.
I take a lot of shit, whetheryou take those discounts that's
on you.

DeLaw (01:08:21):
I don't believe in self-checkout because of the
simple fact of if I'm going tocheck my own food out, I need
about $15 or $20 off of whateverif I go through it, like just
off of GP, because not only am Iscanning my own stuff, bagging

(01:08:42):
my own shit, paying you know,putting my card and all that
other stuff, you got lines thatyou got niggas that you're
paying to do that shit.
If I'm doing it, should I notget that $15 an I'm doing it,
should I not get that $15 anhour for doing it?

Wes (01:08:57):
Listen, I hear you, I hear the argument.

DeLaw (01:09:01):
I hear the argument.

Wes (01:09:03):
I got you.
I see the perspective, I hearthe argument.
The way I feel is, the shitjust needs to be cheaper if
y'all got self-checkout, or elseI'm going to keep getting my
discounts.

DeLaw (01:09:13):
Honestly, look, if you try to reduce your cost in your
rest in your stores, okay, youcan make all owls, checkout owls
and leave a couple, you know,for the older folk.
You know, leave like five owlsfor, like people who want people
to do it for them.
But in my head, if you do, ifyou really want to promote

(01:09:36):
self-checkout, if you doself-checkout, uh, we'll take
20% off your uh coffee bill.
We're doing self-checkout andsaving us money.

Wes (01:09:49):
I just think it's easier just to steal.
Yeah, I'm just like it's easierjust to steal.
Yeah, I'm just like come on,man, it's easier to do that.
They're already fucking gougingus anyway.
That's just me.
I know that's not the rightthing to say.

DeLaw (01:10:06):
No, that's the perfect thing to say that's just me.
Steal the shit, tell me,because at the end of the day,
at the end of the day, at theend of the day, it's like look,
I'm checking out my own food,I'm checking out my own produce,
and the produce you ain'tnecessarily got no tag, I can

(01:10:27):
write that tag off.
Yo what.
It's a bag vegan stealing Yowhat.

Wes (01:10:34):
It's his bag.
Nigga, speaking of stealing,this dude's ex feels like he's
stealing from her, of course.
So he's too over this shit.
He's 46 years old, he says.

(01:10:56):
Last year he had booked himselfhe had booked himself a
European cruise.
A few months later I begandating this girl.
I called her and put her nameout there.
I can put her name out there.
She's 44.
And after several months ofdating I asked if she would be
interested in joining me.
I offered to cover the flightsaround $950.

(01:11:20):
If she would be interested injoining me, I offered to cover
the flights around nine hundredand fifty dollars if she covered
whatever Increased costs therewill be for adding a person
around five hundred and eighty,that's just for the cruise Right
.
Two months prior to the cruiseshe realized she was dealing
with too much on both herprofessional and personal life

(01:11:41):
and couldn't manage arelationship and ended things.
It sucked, but I let her know Isee about getting her money
back from the cruise.
The cruise line refunded around$240, but the rest would be
used for the cancellation fee.
I had paid for travel insurancebut because it wasn't a medical
reason for canceling, they onlyrefunded 75% of the remaining

(01:12:04):
costs to the future.
They only refunded 75% of theremaining costs to a future ship
travel good only in her name.
I let her know about all ofthis and she said the right
thing to do would be to pay herback everything she spent and

(01:12:25):
deal with the rest.
However I needed to.
I sent her the $240, which wasrefundeded and told her that if
there was another way for her totransfer to me with a future
cruise and credit my name, Ireimburse her, but the company
don't allow that she had.

(01:12:45):
She then made several statementsthat seemed to essentially
accuse me of taking advantage ofher because I was holding a
grudge or something.
I was throwing her back andpointing out that a lot of
travel entities havecancellation fees.
There's money I'm out of aswell, like the train tickets
that were fully non-refundable.

(01:13:06):
I don't think I owe heranything.
It's not like I'm coming outahead and withholding her money
from her.
But the whole situation isn'tbut.
But the whole it's not, but thewhole it's the right thing to
do has me second guessing myself.
So my whole thing is I know alltoo well about canceling the

(01:13:33):
cruise line cruise and shit, andHomeboy is actually 100% right.
That is exactly what happens.
They don't give you money back.
They say, hey, you're going toget on one of these boats,
you're not getting this moneyback.
But it's the.
It's the like yo like, if I'mtelling you and showing you the

(01:13:55):
paperwork that, like, this iswhat they saying and I need to
give you the money back.
Like, I paid for flights that Iain't getting back, you ain't
paying that back to me.
So homeboy wants to know if hewrong.

DeLaw (01:14:13):
I wouldn't pay that bitch back shit.
I mean he not, I wouldn't.

Wes (01:14:20):
This is like the nerve this is like yo like you want me to
this.
It's not even my decision.
The cruise line said yo, it'sin your name, or not even his
name, her name already it'sgoing towards your future trip.
If you decide to take one, youtake one, but this is what.
It is what you want me to do.

(01:14:43):
I'm not about to make that.
I could have just not told youabout it.
You ain't getting your moneyback and you have a free cruise
or like a cruise lined up foryou.
But you know, if it wasoff-street bridge type shit?

DeLaw (01:14:59):
Yeah, I yeah.

Wes (01:15:00):
I wouldn't give her that If it's already in her name.

DeLaw (01:15:04):
only it's going to go to her, am I?
I'm like, is it going back tothe car that it went to?
Like let's try it.

Wes (01:15:09):
It's a credit because my wife it happened to my wife and
her sisters cruise gets canceledor they had to cancel no, some.
Actually, what happened wasthey got COVID on the boat.
They wanted their fucking moneyback Cruise and I was like no,
we'll, we'll not, we'll avoidthis fucking cruise.

(01:15:30):
That happened and all the moneylike I forget how much they
spent will be towards anothercruise.
They're not giving you, they'rejust not giving you your money
back.
That's just what it is.

DeLaw (01:15:42):
So your wife ended up catching COVID anyway.

Wes (01:15:45):
Yep.

DeLaw (01:15:46):
You see him when he comes to the reception.

Wes (01:15:48):
Yeah.

DeLaw (01:15:48):
Yeah, ain't nobody in my reception.

Wes (01:15:54):
It was a year later, though , my wife was terrified of COVID
, but when it started gettingmanageable and shit, her anxiety
didn't.
It wasn't as bad, but it wasterrifying.

DeLaw (01:16:06):
When you told me that her anxiety wasn't built that way,
it was like I'm dead seriouswhen you said, oh yeah, her
anxiety is not built that way.
And then you said she also wentto brunch with her sister.
I was like, wait, what Heranxiety ain't built that way.

Wes (01:16:22):
I must spare the details, because she ain't really too
what is the word?
I don't want to say she'sembarrassed, she ain't proud of
the way it happens, but she willsometimes put herself in
situations and be like I know Ishouldn't be she embarrassed,
she ain't proud of the way ithappens, but she will sometimes
put herself in situations andthen be like I know I shouldn't
be doing this, just to latercome home or whatever have you
and be sad or crying and stufflike that.

(01:16:43):
Like she thinks she got itbecause she feels something in
her throat or whatever.
It was a crazy time for us,like she was.
Everything was like I think Igot COVID and I'm just like fuck
, we be running through ourtests during the early days and
her not having it and shit.
So we got to test.
Now I got to buy more testsbecause she's like well, I ain't
have it.
Take my thing again, because Ithink I'm not y'all, you don't

(01:17:04):
have it, you know what's funny?

DeLaw (01:17:08):
Me and the wife, as far as we know, have never had COVID
.

Wes (01:17:18):
Yeah, I had.

DeLaw (01:17:19):
As far as we, know, have never had coke.
Yeah, I think everybody has hadit at this point, it just ain't
no.
I will say when in the earlystages in 2019, um, because you
know, working for the stock, weheard about it back in november
and they were monitoring it.
So my wife got really sick to apoint where she could move
around and everything else.
But I think when she drunk someliquor one day she was almost
down.
So I got her some nyquil thatshould put her out.

(01:17:40):
Um, I got sick sometime afterthat for like two, three days
and then I got sick again, liketwo months later, like two,
three days, like nothing superserious, but as far as I know,
for her she was sick a week.
Oh wow, like at the end wedidn't know what was going.
Her, she was sick a week.
Oh wow, like at the end of itwe didn't know what was going on
and she was like I think youknow we both got sick and we got

(01:18:02):
COVID.
I said I don't think we gotCOVID Because at the end of the
day, if we both got COVID, wewould have known.
Like, we would know, like, fromwhat they said it is to what it
is now, we you wouldn't havebeen able to go up and down
those stairs like you did, or goto work or whatever like, or I
wouldn't have been able to go towork for those two days that I

(01:18:23):
did go see people say that andmy only pushback against that is
give your body some fuckingcredit.

Wes (01:18:30):
You ain't like these other motherfuckers out here.
Some people it affected themgreatly.
Some people they was just kindof like I'm a little sick, I
might have the flu, some peopleasymptomatic, and it was just
nothing.
So the fact that she was sick Iwould not say I mean, I'm not a
fucking doctor so I ain't gonnasay yeah, she ain't have it.
She might have had in her body,just was just taking care of

(01:18:52):
her.
Like it's been the time that mywife got it.
I didn't get it, I don't knowif I got it, but I was fucking
fine, but I'm also in heretaking care of her.
Well, maybe I did get it.

DeLaw (01:19:05):
Who knows, I did get RSV, though.
I remember that, I remember youdid.
The funny part was I think werecorded that day.
We recorded that day I had theheadache and everything.
I mean I was feeling crappy, Iwas out on a drink.

Wes (01:19:25):
Funny story Everybody's getting their what do you call
them?
The vaccines and shit like that.
Right, I got one like on aFriday.
Me and my homies were streamingthe very next day, so I got the
shot that day.
I was feeling feverish, but Ididn't know.
I was feeling feverish and shit.

(01:19:45):
I had the best match of thebest day of Call of Duty ever
because I was hyper-focusing nobullshit.
Because of this fuckingheadache that I had Won the game
for us, I say, all right, Igotta, I gotta, I, I, I'm done.
This is at 10 10 am.
I'm like I'm done, I can'tstream, no morei I'm done.
I slept b-hole.
I didn't wake up to 10 am thenext day.

(01:20:05):
I would literally just wake updown gatorade and go right back
to sleep.
That's how bad.
That fucking uh, what do youcall it?
That vaccine knocked me on myass and I was just like I ain't
no way, ain't no way.
So when it was like, oh, yougetting your boosters, fuck no
the vaccine didn't do nothing tome that's what I'm saying.
That's what I'm saying.
I got knocked on my ass.

(01:20:27):
The vaccine did shit to you.

DeLaw (01:20:29):
The boosters is what got me.
So my first booster wasn't thatbad, but the most recent
booster I got what do you meanrecent?
I got a booster when I got tothe Department of Health, I got
a booster.
On September 20th I got mybooster.

(01:20:53):
When I say that shit prettymuch had me in here, you know
how you get the chills.
My feet were hurting.
I was like you know, I saidthis is my last booster, I'm
done.
I'm done, I'm done.

Wes (01:21:12):

DeLaw (01:21:15):
Because I look at it like the flu.
I ain't never had COVID andlast time I had the flu is God
knows when.
So the most recent time that Idid get the flu, which was this
year, you know it wasn't thatbad.
I had the headache the wholetime.
But that's because my heart youknow your heart rate up, your
heart rate up, the heart rate up.

(01:21:36):
Of course it's going to be hardto go to sleep and you're going
to have, you know, a headache,but you know I did what I was
supposed to do and all thatother shit but, like you know, I
let my body thug it out.

Wes (01:21:50):
Yeah, the best thing that we can do is the preventative
stuff and just pray that God gotus and our body got us.

DeLaw (01:21:57):
I mean, I'm just trying to figure out why that chick
thought she was going to getthat money.

Wes (01:22:02):
Yeah, that's crazy.
Yeah, speaking on that, that'sshe needs to do, he needs it's
like.
Yo just say you mad that youout of the money, which is fine.
I will be mad too, but I don'tmake the rules for the fucking
cruise line.
You think just to convenienceyou.
I'm going to give you the moneyand you go on a free trip.
Nah, I was about to say suck my.

(01:22:24):
I was about to say suck my.
But nah, fuck out of here, fuckout of here.
That doesn't even make anysense.

DeLaw (01:22:31):
That's like the kids that got kicked out of Six Flags.
You can't keep me out of SixFlags because I paid my money to
get in here.

Wes (01:22:36):
No, yeah, I definitely can't kick you out of Six Flags.
You've been kicked out of SixFlags.

DeLaw (01:22:41):
Everybody been kicked out of Six Flags at some point.
But like come on, If the crewsaren't like, let's fine, we'll
just hold it until your nextreservation.
That's it like.
That's like these at the end ofthe day, you probably still plan
to go back look and that's whyyou got redefined prayer like

(01:23:04):
you only can get your money backwithin a certain time frame,
like when we uh, like we weresupposed to go to myrtle beach
for one trip and it's the, it'snot the year we went.
So so we went last year, lastsummer, but the summer before
that we were supposed to go toMerlebridge.
I got rent the place andeverything, and so shit happened

(01:23:26):
and the wife was like I thinkshe got mad at me about
something I just started.
The state government.
She's like you know, I don'teven worry about going on
vacation, like I'm not goingbecause this and this and this
and this.
Okay, so I canceled the picture.
Why'd you cancel it?

Wes (01:23:42):
You're proving my point.
They be speaking so finite andfunny.
This is it.
Your words are like all right,I'm going to just do it.

DeLaw (01:23:55):
Don't tempt me with saving money.

Wes (01:23:57):
Don't tempt an old man with saving money, because he's
going to save you that fuckingmoney.

DeLaw (01:24:01):
Oh boy, I'm not going, but based on this, this and that
, Okay, cool, Well, you should.
I encourage you to go.
Why would you encourage me togo to burn that bread?
That means now I got to drivedown there.

Wes (01:24:16):
And that was my thing.
If only Myrtle Beach was theDominican Republic.
Yeah, you should go.

DeLaw (01:24:18):
Yeah, I'll drive right down there like when we went to
Myrtle Beach.
When we went to Myrtle Beachlast summer, I drove up and back
myself with her yo she ain'thelping at all no, it was so.
It was a proof point.

Wes (01:24:37):
What you still these Patty stories?
What do you mean?
It's a proof point.

DeLaw (01:24:42):
I'm not proving no point by fucking all the drugs, I
don't give a fuck.
She always will be the one todo all this, and she drives all
the places she's tricking you.

Wes (01:24:50):
You don't understand what's going on.

DeLaw (01:24:53):
And she's like, oh well, okay, I can drive.
And I'm looking at her eyes,you have sleep, how you gonna
drive?
And so I'm a big advocate whereI don't like drive.
If we're gonna drive a longtrip, I don't want to eat.
You know what I'm saying?
Because I know that eating isgonna make me tired, so I don't
want to eat, or I'm just, let mejust drive like I can.

(01:25:15):
You don't have a full meal iswhat you're saying, right like,
honestly, because you know, whenwe stopped, when we stopped at
the cookout oh, that was whenyou went.
Really I was like we could justdrive.
Look, just grab your food, putit in the car and let's keep
driving.
Well, you know like, why can'tyou know like, like, why can't
you know like, let's stop andeat because you need some rest.

Wes (01:25:35):
No, I'm not, I rest, I might not.
I'm not going to be as sharp orgood as I need to be, so we
need to hurry up and get going.

DeLaw (01:25:44):
I told her, I said, and as soon as I ate my food and we
started driving I think we werein North Carolina.
We still got like four hours togo, if not more, probably like
four hours I could already feelmy eyes just dwindling.
I'm just like yo.
And then these motherfuckersand they bladders oh, I got pee,

(01:26:06):
what, what do you mean?
You got pee, I got pee, I ain'tgonna lie.

Wes (01:26:15):
That is the reason why I hate road trips.
The most I can do is four hours, and that's what Virginia Beach
or New York or wherever I canonly do four fucking hours.
I cannot do more.

DeLaw (01:26:26):
I told her, this time we splitting that.

Wes (01:26:29):
Yeah, I got to.
It's only fair.

DeLaw (01:26:31):
So you want to drive the firsthalf or the second half, see,
and the thing is, you know, asthe man I'll drive and I get you
know the kid might be hungry orwhatever, or she might start
getting hungry or whatever.

Wes (01:26:46):
Yeah, I ain't talking about that.

DeLaw (01:26:49):
We might as well just keep driving.
Look, get you some snacks forthe road.
Let's get out of here, let'sget down to the get down here,
Like we get into North Carolina,whatever.
We just keep rolling, rolling,rolling, rolling, rolling and
then if it's like, all right,okay, now we need to stop.
My eyes are getting a littletired.
Okay, cool, Then let's switch.

(01:27:09):
But it shouldn't be.
No, let's stop and get a realmeal.
Like, no, like, if we're goingto get a real meal, let's wait
until we're almost in, like wein South Carolina about to be in
Melbourne.

Wes (01:27:18):
Yeah, that's usually what the road trip is supposed to be.
As soon as y'all get to wherey'all at, y'all touch down,
y'all like, y'all boom, like wehere, let's relax a little bit.
Usually it's you drop your shitoff.
Now you're like we got a placeto rest our head.
Let's go get to this food andwe're going to come back and

(01:27:38):
plan the next day, or if y'allgot there at a good time, what
are we doing tonight?
You know what I mean.

DeLaw (01:27:41):
That type of thing.
We're on a six to eight hourtrip.

Wes (01:27:45):
Yeah, I'm not doing it.

DeLaw (01:27:47):
In my head, if we get up early enough, we can beat a lot
of that trash, and so this yearwe're not leaving on a Saturday,
we're leaving on a Sunday, sothe roads are a little bit
different on Sunday.

Wes (01:28:00):
Sunday to come home or Sunday to go down.
Sunday to go down.
Okay, yeah.

DeLaw (01:28:05):
Saturday to go down.
That's when everybody goesSunday.
If we get out early on Sundaysyou can kind of play with it a
little bit.
Everybody else leaves at like 4o'clock in the morning on a
Saturday to beat all thattraffic.
If we leave on 6 o'clock on aSaturday, on a Sunday them roads

(01:28:29):
are clear until 9 o'clockBecause now everybody's getting
up to go to church.
That means we've already beatenthe glim burning.
Getting down the buoy to 495traffic to get to the mixing
bowl.
Once you get in the hard part,the hard part of all the traffic

(01:28:49):
is getting through the mixingbowl, you know.
And then you get down that part, you just gun it.
Once you get down that part,you just gun it.
Once you get to Richmond, youknow you halfway through
Virginia.
Once you get to Wilmington, youknow you're halfway to Myrtle
Beach.
And if you can power throughthat and get closer and closer

(01:29:10):
to that border, I'm not opposedto stopping and getting a meal
if we're only going to be twohours out.

Wes (01:29:17):
Yeah, you don't want to be like six hours out and be like
let's get something to eat.
That should have been done.

DeLaw (01:29:22):
Right, you know, if we get to like 11, like we leave at
6, and it gets to like 11, 12o'clock and you're like okay,
I'm hungry.
We've already driven six hours.
We're deep in North Carolina.

Wes (01:29:35):
You know what I realized Speaking about this?
Yo, most of us wouldn't havemade it during colonial times,
when you had to travel through ahorse and carriage for a week
just to get this off.

DeLaw (01:29:47):
Yeah, stay at the local inn.

Wes (01:29:48):
No, not for that when food is scarce.

DeLaw (01:29:50):
So it's just like yo you want't eat on a little bit today
and that's all you're gonna eatfor two days.
You know what they used to do,right, they used.
They used to drink.
Yeah, they used to drink andthe drinking would suffice, like
, um, a lot of them did rum.
You know, rum was the big thing,you know rum uh, beer wasn't

(01:30:14):
necessarily that wasn't really athing yet, not in the states
anyway not in the states, likein overseas, like England, you
know, in Europe it was a thingbecause they had the beer they
had the wheat, the wheat tocultivate the wheat, and stuff
like that yeah but you know, atthat time, horse and carriage,
it was rum and you might havehad a little bit of beer, but
all that beer that you would seethem, that you see in these, at

(01:30:34):
that time, horse and carriage,it was rum and you might have
had a little bit of beer, butall that beer that you would see
in these movies, that was oncethey started going west.
That's after the Civil War, theRevolutionary War, the War of
1812.
That's after all those wars.
Let me get a beer.
That's in the Midwest Texas.

(01:30:57):
It's the wild west out here inTexas.
That's just fucking south.

Wes (01:31:05):
Yeah, shit.
On that note, women think menmake money.
That's what I came up with withthis conversation and you can't
, and you can't.

DeLaw (01:31:22):
You can't complain if the cruise liner says I ain't give
you a goddamn refund, but I'llput it towards your next trip
because you want that money.
Shit in real life.
If I pay for all that and yourname is on it, I took the L.
He did take the L.
He took the L Exactly.
He took the L.

Wes (01:31:42):
He's not even asking for what it costs to get her there.
He's like yo, I'm going to payfor you to get there, like he
took that on the train.
She's like what you think wasgoing to happen, you was going
to quit the relationship?

DeLaw (01:31:56):
Did he even say the reason for it?

Wes (01:31:58):
She said it was too.
She had a lot going on.

DeLaw (01:32:01):
Oh, so pretty much.
She found another, nigga Got it.
That's what it sound like to me, but hey, I'm just saying.
This is what happens when youare not the reigning undisputed
head of the table tribal chiefchampion of your house.
They just walk out.

Wes (01:32:20):
They just walk out.

DeLaw (01:32:24):
He should have told that bitch acknowledge me.

Wes (01:32:32):
Alright, on that note, thank everybody for tuning in
and uh, acknowledge us,acknowledge us.

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