What if your chiropractic practice could flourish by simply fostering the right professional relationships? Join us in this compelling episode as we sit down with Dr. Irum Tahir, a distinguished chiropractor with successful practices in both upstate New York and Washington DC. Dr. Tahir shares her incredible journey and reveals the transformative power of systems and partnerships with OBGYNs and other medical professionals. We discuss the unique benefits of chiropractic care for pregnant women and families, highlighting how these services can significantly enhance the health and well-being of both mothers and their babies. Plus, Dr. Tahir provides invaluable advice for fellow chiropractors looking to boost patient referrals and practice success through collaborative efforts with medical doctors.
But that's not all—Dr. Tahir also delves into her passion for pediatric care and professional coaching. Discover how she educates her audience on pediatric health and pregnancy through her active social media presence on Instagram and Facebook. Learn about her consulting company, Ignite the Spark (ignite-spark.com), which aims to rejuvenate healthcare providers and combat burnout, alongside her parent company, High Point Consulting, which focuses on fostering innovation within the medical community. This episode is packed with Dr. Tahir’s expert insights and inspiring stories, making it an essential listen for anyone in the chiropractic profession or healthcare industry.
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Speaker 1 (00:04):
Hello, I'm Dr Arlen Foer, the chairman and founder
of Activator MethodsInternational, and welcome to
our podcast, activate yourPractice, and today we have a
real star in my book.
It's Dr Irim Tahir, and she hasone of the nicest, biggest
practices, and I first learnedabout her in a TED Talk some
(00:27):
seven years ago and I wasimpressed by her and so I wanted
to get her on the podcast tofind out how she became so
successful and tell me whereyour location is.
Speaker 2 (00:38):
Yeah, so my practice is in upstate New York but I
actually live in the WashingtonDC area, so I have that practice
set up where I can actually runit from anywhere, which I'm
very grateful for.
So it gets systems, systems,systems, you know which.
We'll probably go into it alittle bit, but I'm in upstate
New York and then I'm now in theWashington DC area to have
another location there.
Speaker 1 (00:57):
How do you run things with systems?
It intrigues me.
Speaker 2 (01:01):
Yeah, so you know, I think most chiropractors and
most entrepreneurs intrigues me.
Yeah, so you know, I think mostchiropractors and most
entrepreneurs they're enmeshedin the practice, right.
So they're like in there, youknow, even if you think of like
a baker, they're in there bakingthe bread, baking the bread.
Baking the bread and that ispart of why we got into it is
chiropractic and working withour patients.
But it's really, I think, thattrue success and freedom comes
(01:24):
from when you're sitting more ontop of the business and you can
still, of course, be doing thedaily adjustments, but those
systems that you do put intoplace and making sure that
everyone's doing things the sameway, regardless of who is there
, is, I think, what's key.
Speaker 1 (01:39):
Well, I know you have a kind of an unusual practice.
It, I guess, specializes, andso I want to know about that.
Speaker 2 (01:47):
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
So my practice.
We do see the generalpopulation, but we see a ton of
pregnant women and babies andwellness type of families you
know too.
So it's a wellness-basedpractice.
We do, you know, work with alot of OBGYNs and midwives and
doulas in the area.
So we've really built a namefor ourselves and I created a
(02:09):
whole system of working withOBGYNs and medical doctors to be
able to get them to understandwhat it is we do with
chiropractic care and I'm reallythat's like my passion, you
know, my passion is really thepregnant women in practice.
So when I'm working with ourmoms, or even postpartum, those
are the moms that need the mosthelp because oftentimes they're
(02:31):
told by the medical worldthere's nothing that can be done
for you.
You just have to wait it out,you just have to live with it.
No, it doesn't need to be thatway.
Speaker 1 (02:40):
But that's where I think you have majored is in
this area and how did you getstarted at?
Speaker 2 (02:46):
You know, I think it started with having real empathy
for pregnant moms because Ifeel like they go through so
much.
You know they're carrying lifewithin them and that life is so
important and it's so crucialand what happens to the mom does
affect that life, and so Istarted thinking about it is
(03:08):
that if we can impact thepregnant mom through
chiropractic care, it willchange the trajectory of that
person's life where that, whenthey're born into this world,
how they're born into this world, and so it can either be a very
difficult, laborious,challenging labor and delivery
or it can be easy and smooth andcomfortable, and you know that
(03:30):
really comes into play withworking with the pregnant moms.
So that's really like you know,one of my biggest passions is
working with pregnant moms,along with, you know, so many
other things.
Speaker 1 (03:41):
You coach, you know chiropractors for years.
Yeah, Uh, what's the number onemain issue that you see most
often in chiropractic practicesand how can it be corrected?
Speaker 2 (03:51):
Yeah, so I've been coaching chiropractors for the
last 12 years and um whileworking within my own practice.
So I I think one of one of thethings that really sets me apart
is I'm one of the fewchiropractors that's a coach
that's still in practice and isin the weeds and knows what's
going on with the day-to-daychallenges that we experience
(04:13):
every day.
And I think that one of thebiggest things that I've seen
people make mistakes with isthat they actually don't work
with medical doctors or OBGYNs.
You know, that's where all thesick people are and there's such
a huge opportunity forchiropractors to work with
medical doctors and OBGYNs andother healthcare providers to be
able to get those referralsources in.
(04:34):
But I think the chiropractorsthey're just trying to do it all
themselves, you know, and ifthey work these collaborative
relationships, it makes such abig difference.
Speaker 1 (04:44):
Tell me how you first got somebody in the OBGYN world
to work with you.
Speaker 2 (04:49):
Oh, that's a good question.
Yeah, so I had.
I was just out of school and I,um, I said to myself you know,
I really love working withpregnant moms and I wish I could
work with OBGYNs, but it justseemed like this huge daunting,
like very difficult thing, Um,and it actually started out with
a patient.
A patient that I had was anurse practitioner at a large OB
(05:10):
practice and she is like aholistic kind of a nurse
practitioner, but she workedwith this medical OBGYN and she
was like you need to know aboutDr Tahir, that's who you need to
start sending pregnant moms to,because I educated that patient
and she went and educated thatOB and then she was able to get
me into working with the OB andexplaining chiropractic and got
(05:33):
my foot in the door.
And then when I started workingwith her 15 years ago, I had
been continually working withdifferent OBs and MDs and then I
finally built the whole systemaround it.
Speaker 1 (05:43):
Did you build a system to getting and to see
OBGYNs?
Speaker 2 (05:47):
Yeah, getting in front of them.
They're key decision makers.
So getting in front of them,they're key decision makers.
So getting in front of them andgetting a luncheon scheduled,
getting in front of them andhelping them understand what it
is we do with chiropractic carein the first place, you know,
and then I've expanded out tomedical doctors too.
Speaker 1 (06:02):
Yeah, that was probably the biggest thing is,
they just didn't know what thedirectors did.
Speaker 2 (06:07):
They didn't know and there's no options, and they
can't give medicine or theycan't give injections to these
pregnant moms.
So what's the option they'relike?
Well, you just have to livewith that.
You know, after nine monthsit'll be over.
Speaker 1 (06:19):
You know I've done five podcast people here this
morning and they're all talkingabout your limiting beliefs and
I think that's what you havedown here.
How does that play intoourselves?
How do we limit ourselves?
Speaker 2 (06:31):
Yeah, so you know our limiting beliefs.
You know we started off talkingabout my TED Talk and I'm very
grateful because the TED Talksit's become very, very popular
and it is on how our limitingbeliefs hold us back.
So these limiting beliefs arehanded down to us from
generations and generations, youknow, and back in the day it
(06:52):
was really rough to be able tosurvive in this world.
You know, even if you thinkabout our grandparents'
generation, they went throughwar, went through famine, went
through destruction, wentthrough so many different things
, and that's not to say thatthat's not happening this day
and age.
But they handed down some ofthese limiting and negative
thought patterns that weactually operate our life from
(07:14):
and we don't know that theyexist until we have someone go
in and say, hey, this isactually a limiting belief that
you've been handed down fromgeneration to generation.
So it could be around money, itcould be around success, it
could be around wealth, it couldbe relationships, a marriage,
all sorts of different things.
And one of the things we dowith our coaching clients is we
work with those limiting beliefsand a very specific technique
(07:37):
called Psyche K that helps toeliminate those limiting beliefs
, to stop the barriers for theirsuccess.
Speaker 1 (07:42):
Tell me about that again.
What was the word Psyche?
Speaker 2 (07:44):
Psyche K, psyche K, yeah, so actually uses muscle
testing to be able to identifythe limiting beliefs within the
subconscious mind.
Yes, it's very cool.
So let's just say.
You came to me and you saidwell, you have everything, arlen
, so I don't know, you probablydon't need anything else.
Speaker 1 (08:06):
Well, yes, I do.
By the way, my wife said I'mreally getting much better at
podcasting and I said why?
And she says you're shutting upand I'm learning yeah, the
person that comes in here, Ihave the benefit of listening to
them and like I didn't knowwhat this was.
Speaker 2 (08:22):
Yes, okay.
So basically, if you had a goalthat you wanted, let's just
make it up.
Let's just say it was a healthgoal.
Okay, you goal that you wanted?
Let's just make it up.
Let's just say it was a healthgoal.
Okay, you have a certain goalin your mind that you want to
achieve.
I will test you using thistechnique to see if you actually
even believe you can do it.
Now, consciously, you may say,yes, I can do it, I can do it, I
(08:42):
can do it, I want to do it.
But subconsciously, that's whatkeeps holding us back, because
it may not be normal for us.
That goal may not be somethingthat we're familiar with,
because we're operating withthis old operating system from
our grandparents and parents andsociety and teachers and
preachers, and that's who's toldus, our belief system.
(09:05):
And so my job is to work withyou and be able to find out
where the weakness is, becausethat limitation is actually
weakening you.
That's why the muscle testinghelps us gauge that, and then,
once we find that weakness, thenI can actually use.
It's really cool because it'salmost like a chiro.
It's kind of like, almost likehow chiropractic works.
We use the body to get to themind and we use different
(09:27):
postures to get the person intoa whole brain state and then get
their subconscious in line withtheir conscious goals.
So let's just say someone had apractice goal of I want to make
a million dollars.
But if in your mind you don'tactually believe that
subconscious mind, you're nevergoing to get there.
Exactly it's always going to bethe same thing over and over
again, and it's just going to bedaunting and hard.
Speaker 1 (09:48):
Well, you know, I have interviewed practice
management people and thesuccessful practice management
people.
All of a sudden, it hit me,they're only working with the
20% successful practitioners.
Speaker 2 (10:02):
Exactly.
Speaker 1 (10:03):
There's 80% out there that they don't work with
because they won't changeExactly, and that's a pretty big
thing when you find out thatthere's people that don't want
to change.
Speaker 2 (10:13):
Yep Exactly, can you?
Speaker 1 (10:15):
change that?
Speaker 2 (10:16):
They have to be coachable.
So you know, for me we don'tactually take on everybody that
we coach.
You know, I have a conversationfirst to see are they coachable
, like are they going to be openand receptive, to want to
change?
But sometimes there's thingsthat they've learned that
prevent them from changing.
So that's where our goal is tostart breaking that down to help
(10:38):
them achieve their goals.
Speaker 1 (10:40):
That can be familial, it can be, you know, from when
they're babies.
Speaker 2 (10:43):
Oh yeah.
Speaker 1 (10:44):
Break that yeah To break that cycle.
Speaker 2 (10:47):
Yeah.
So if you tell you know yourchild, you're not going to
amount to anything, You're notgoing to be successful, you
can't do this.
That's going to stick in theirmind as they grow into an adult.
It's all how we speak to ourchildren and our loved ones.
Speaker 1 (11:00):
You know, I came from a big farm family and the old
Germans always bought a farm forevery kid, and so when I told
my grandfather I wanted to be achiropractor, it was destroying
to him, because he said, no, wealready have a year-life plan
for you.
And I said, well, not what I'mgoing to do.
But I had an uncle that was inour family, a weirdo because he
(11:23):
was an interior decorator.
And can you imagine this?
Well, farmers, and here's aninterior decorator.
But he took me under his wingand said it's okay that you're
not a farmer, and he gave me thesupport that I needed to go
through university and thenchiropractic college.
Speaker 2 (11:38):
Oh, that just gives me chills.
What a great story.
Speaker 1 (11:40):
Yes, sometimes there's a person in your life
that can change it, that canchange it.
Speaker 2 (11:46):
Yes, yes, but he was out of that familial pattern,
yes.
And then look at what you'vecreated because of your uncle.
Look at what you've created forour profession and for society.
Speaker 1 (11:57):
But he gave me that vision to do it, and so oh, I
love that story.
Speaker 2 (12:02):
I didn't know that.
Speaker 1 (12:03):
What technique do you use in your practice?
Speaker 2 (12:05):
So we actually do use some activator as well.
So with the pregnant moms, I'vehad pregnant moms and then also
I'm moving into postpartum.
You know we use the activatorsometimes for areas that we are
not able to access, maybesensitive, uncomfortable.
So we do use the activatorquite a bit as well.
Quite a bit as well we alsobecause it is so precise and
(12:32):
it's very specific and you canreally get to like specific
areas with it, you know, andsafe and very safe, exactly so.
We use that, of course, with ourgeriatric population, some of
our children, especially moms.
Sometimes they're nervous abouttheir kids getting adjusted, so
it's a really great tool thatI'm so grateful that you created
.
And then we also use pelvicblocking, and actually in my
(12:55):
talk later this weekend I'mgoing to be going over some
simple pelvic blockingtechniques that people can use.
It doesn't have to be a wholebig thing, but it's simple, easy
.
You know things that they canuse to get some powerful results
.
And then we of course, use Drop, diversified.
We have Webster Technique andsome little bit of soft tissue.
Speaker 1 (13:12):
Sure, you know there's a lot of different
colleges now that are havingspecific pediatric courses.
Yeah, and are you seeing peoplecome out with that?
Is that good?
Speaker 2 (13:23):
I am seeing that I primarily do work with the ICPA.
You know all of my work when Iteach how to work with the
OBGYNs and the midwives andpregnancy has all been gone
through the ICPA because they dosee that in like the main
certifying body.
So but there are other goodcourses too.
But I think that at the bareminimum people definitely should
(13:43):
get you know through the ICPA,the Webster certification.
I love that.
Speaker 1 (13:48):
How do people get a hold of you if they want to?
You know, learn how to takecare of the pediatric world.
Speaker 2 (13:55):
Yeah, yeah.
So whether they want to learnmore about the pediatrics and
the pregnancy, or they want tolearn more about the coaching, I
am on Instagram, so it's justDr Iram Taghir, and then I'm on
Facebook, too, dr Iram Tagir, soI have one of those names that
can't really be forgotten, Iguess, and then we have a
website too of course, tell thename for them, because somebody
(14:16):
might not know how.
Sure, yes.
So my first name is I-R-U-MIram Yep, and then T-A-H-I-R
Tahir.
Speaker 1 (14:27):
Yep, and then.
Speaker 2 (14:27):
T-A-H-I-R.
Tahir.
Yes, and then we have a websitetoo, which is
wwwignite-sparkcom, and wecalled our consulting company.
It's part of a.
We have a parent company calledHigh Point Consulting.
But Ignite the Spark is reallyabout sparking something in our
providers, in our doctors.
(14:48):
You know so many of us, I'msure you've seen this you know
chiropractors.
We do get burnt out.
We get kind of like into thisthing, like over and over again,
same problems.
So Ignite the Spark is reallymoving people out of what
they're used to, into doingsomething different and creating
a spark within.
Speaker 1 (15:06):
Well, I can't thank you enough.
You know we're at Parker hereand we've had several people
today that we're interviewingand we can get them all at one
place.
That's fabulous, and so thankyou for taking time, because I
know you're busy, for justcoming in and being on the
Activate your Practice podcast.
Speaker 2 (15:21):
Thank you.
Thank you so much for having me.
It's been such a pleasure.
Hello, I'm Dr Arlen Foer, the chairman and founder
of Activator MethodsInternational, and welcome to
our podcast, activate yourPractice, and today we have a
real star in my book.
It's Dr Irim Tahir, and she hasone of the nicest, biggest
practices, and I first learnedabout her in a TED Talk some
(00:27):
seven years ago and I wasimpressed by her and so I wanted
to get her on the podcast tofind out how she became so
successful and tell me whereyour location is.
Speaker 2 (00:38):
Yeah, so my practice is in upstate New York but I
actually live in the WashingtonDC area, so I have that practice
set up where I can actually runit from anywhere, which I'm
very grateful for.
So it gets systems, systems,systems, you know which.
We'll probably go into it alittle bit, but I'm in upstate
New York and then I'm now in theWashington DC area to have
another location there.
Speaker 1 (00:57):
How do you run things with systems?
It intrigues me.
Speaker 2 (01:01):
Yeah, so you know, I think most chiropractors and
most entrepreneurs intrigues me.
Yeah, so you know, I think mostchiropractors and most
entrepreneurs they're enmeshedin the practice, right.
So they're like in there, youknow, even if you think of like
a baker, they're in there bakingthe bread, baking the bread.
Baking the bread and that ispart of why we got into it is
chiropractic and working withour patients.
But it's really, I think, thattrue success and freedom comes
(01:24):
from when you're sitting more ontop of the business and you can
still, of course, be doing thedaily adjustments, but those
systems that you do put intoplace and making sure that
everyone's doing things the sameway, regardless of who is there
, is, I think, what's key.
Speaker 1 (01:39):
Well, I know you have a kind of an unusual practice.
It, I guess, specializes, andso I want to know about that.
Speaker 2 (01:47):
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
So my practice.
We do see the generalpopulation, but we see a ton of
pregnant women and babies andwellness type of families you
know too.
So it's a wellness-basedpractice.
We do, you know, work with alot of OBGYNs and midwives and
doulas in the area.
So we've really built a namefor ourselves and I created a
(02:09):
whole system of working withOBGYNs and medical doctors to be
able to get them to understandwhat it is we do with
chiropractic care and I'm reallythat's like my passion, you
know, my passion is really thepregnant women in practice.
So when I'm working with ourmoms, or even postpartum, those
are the moms that need the mosthelp because oftentimes they're
(02:31):
told by the medical worldthere's nothing that can be done
for you.
You just have to wait it out,you just have to live with it.
No, it doesn't need to be thatway.
Speaker 1 (02:40):
But that's where I think you have majored is in
this area and how did you getstarted at?
Speaker 2 (02:46):
You know, I think it started with having real empathy
for pregnant moms because Ifeel like they go through so
much.
You know they're carrying lifewithin them and that life is so
important and it's so crucialand what happens to the mom does
affect that life, and so Istarted thinking about it is
(03:08):
that if we can impact thepregnant mom through
chiropractic care, it willchange the trajectory of that
person's life where that, whenthey're born into this world,
how they're born into this world, and so it can either be a very
difficult, laborious,challenging labor and delivery
or it can be easy and smooth andcomfortable, and you know that
(03:30):
really comes into play withworking with the pregnant moms.
So that's really like you know,one of my biggest passions is
working with pregnant moms,along with, you know, so many
other things.
Speaker 1 (03:41):
You coach, you know chiropractors for years.
Yeah, Uh, what's the number onemain issue that you see most
often in chiropractic practicesand how can it be corrected?
Speaker 2 (03:51):
Yeah, so I've been coaching chiropractors for the
last 12 years and um whileworking within my own practice.
So I I think one of one of thethings that really sets me apart
is I'm one of the fewchiropractors that's a coach
that's still in practice and isin the weeds and knows what's
going on with the day-to-daychallenges that we experience
(04:13):
every day.
And I think that one of thebiggest things that I've seen
people make mistakes with isthat they actually don't work
with medical doctors or OBGYNs.
You know, that's where all thesick people are and there's such
a huge opportunity forchiropractors to work with
medical doctors and OBGYNs andother healthcare providers to be
able to get those referralsources in.
(04:34):
But I think the chiropractorsthey're just trying to do it all
themselves, you know, and ifthey work these collaborative
relationships, it makes such abig difference.
Speaker 1 (04:44):
Tell me how you first got somebody in the OBGYN world
to work with you.
Speaker 2 (04:49):
Oh, that's a good question.
Yeah, so I had.
I was just out of school and I,um, I said to myself you know,
I really love working withpregnant moms and I wish I could
work with OBGYNs, but it justseemed like this huge daunting,
like very difficult thing, Um,and it actually started out with
a patient.
A patient that I had was anurse practitioner at a large OB
(05:10):
practice and she is like aholistic kind of a nurse
practitioner, but she workedwith this medical OBGYN and she
was like you need to know aboutDr Tahir, that's who you need to
start sending pregnant moms to,because I educated that patient
and she went and educated thatOB and then she was able to get
me into working with the OB andexplaining chiropractic and got
(05:33):
my foot in the door.
And then when I started workingwith her 15 years ago, I had
been continually working withdifferent OBs and MDs and then I
finally built the whole systemaround it.
Speaker 1 (05:43):
Did you build a system to getting and to see
OBGYNs?
Speaker 2 (05:47):
Yeah, getting in front of them.
They're key decision makers.
So getting in front of them,they're key decision makers.
So getting in front of them andgetting a luncheon scheduled,
getting in front of them andhelping them understand what it
is we do with chiropractic carein the first place, you know,
and then I've expanded out tomedical doctors too.
Speaker 1 (06:02):
Yeah, that was probably the biggest thing is,
they just didn't know what thedirectors did.
Speaker 2 (06:07):
They didn't know and there's no options, and they
can't give medicine or theycan't give injections to these
pregnant moms.
So what's the option they'relike?
Well, you just have to livewith that.
You know, after nine monthsit'll be over.
Speaker 1 (06:19):
You know I've done five podcast people here this
morning and they're all talkingabout your limiting beliefs and
I think that's what you havedown here.
How does that play intoourselves?
How do we limit ourselves?
Speaker 2 (06:31):
Yeah, so you know our limiting beliefs.
You know we started off talkingabout my TED Talk and I'm very
grateful because the TED Talksit's become very, very popular
and it is on how our limitingbeliefs hold us back.
So these limiting beliefs arehanded down to us from
generations and generations, youknow, and back in the day it
(06:52):
was really rough to be able tosurvive in this world.
You know, even if you thinkabout our grandparents'
generation, they went throughwar, went through famine, went
through destruction, wentthrough so many different things
, and that's not to say thatthat's not happening this day
and age.
But they handed down some ofthese limiting and negative
thought patterns that weactually operate our life from
(07:14):
and we don't know that theyexist until we have someone go
in and say, hey, this isactually a limiting belief that
you've been handed down fromgeneration to generation.
So it could be around money, itcould be around success, it
could be around wealth, it couldbe relationships, a marriage,
all sorts of different things.
And one of the things we dowith our coaching clients is we
work with those limiting beliefsand a very specific technique
(07:37):
called Psyche K that helps toeliminate those limiting beliefs
, to stop the barriers for theirsuccess.
Speaker 1 (07:42):
Tell me about that again.
What was the word Psyche?
Speaker 2 (07:44):
Psyche K, psyche K, yeah, so actually uses muscle
testing to be able to identifythe limiting beliefs within the
subconscious mind.
Yes, it's very cool.
So let's just say.
You came to me and you saidwell, you have everything, arlen
, so I don't know, you probablydon't need anything else.
Speaker 1 (08:06):
Well, yes, I do.
By the way, my wife said I'mreally getting much better at
podcasting and I said why?
And she says you're shutting upand I'm learning yeah, the
person that comes in here, Ihave the benefit of listening to
them and like I didn't knowwhat this was.
Speaker 2 (08:22):
Yes, okay.
So basically, if you had a goalthat you wanted, let's just
make it up.
Let's just say it was a healthgoal.
Okay, you goal that you wanted?
Let's just make it up.
Let's just say it was a healthgoal.
Okay, you have a certain goalin your mind that you want to
achieve.
I will test you using thistechnique to see if you actually
even believe you can do it.
Now, consciously, you may say,yes, I can do it, I can do it, I
(08:42):
can do it, I want to do it.
But subconsciously, that's whatkeeps holding us back, because
it may not be normal for us.
That goal may not be somethingthat we're familiar with,
because we're operating withthis old operating system from
our grandparents and parents andsociety and teachers and
preachers, and that's who's toldus, our belief system.
(09:05):
And so my job is to work withyou and be able to find out
where the weakness is, becausethat limitation is actually
weakening you.
That's why the muscle testinghelps us gauge that, and then,
once we find that weakness, thenI can actually use.
It's really cool because it'salmost like a chiro.
It's kind of like, almost likehow chiropractic works.
We use the body to get to themind and we use different
(09:27):
postures to get the person intoa whole brain state and then get
their subconscious in line withtheir conscious goals.
So let's just say someone had apractice goal of I want to make
a million dollars.
But if in your mind you don'tactually believe that
subconscious mind, you're nevergoing to get there.
Exactly it's always going to bethe same thing over and over
again, and it's just going to bedaunting and hard.
Speaker 1 (09:48):
Well, you know, I have interviewed practice
management people and thesuccessful practice management
people.
All of a sudden, it hit me,they're only working with the
20% successful practitioners.
Speaker 2 (10:02):
Exactly.
Speaker 1 (10:03):
There's 80% out there that they don't work with
because they won't changeExactly, and that's a pretty big
thing when you find out thatthere's people that don't want
to change.
Speaker 2 (10:13):
Yep Exactly, can you?
Speaker 1 (10:15):
change that?
Speaker 2 (10:16):
They have to be coachable.
So you know, for me we don'tactually take on everybody that
we coach.
You know, I have a conversationfirst to see are they coachable
, like are they going to be openand receptive, to want to
change?
But sometimes there's thingsthat they've learned that
prevent them from changing.
So that's where our goal is tostart breaking that down to help
(10:38):
them achieve their goals.
Speaker 1 (10:40):
That can be familial, it can be, you know, from when
they're babies.
Speaker 2 (10:43):
Oh yeah.
Speaker 1 (10:44):
Break that yeah To break that cycle.
Speaker 2 (10:47):
Yeah.
So if you tell you know yourchild, you're not going to
amount to anything, You're notgoing to be successful, you
can't do this.
That's going to stick in theirmind as they grow into an adult.
It's all how we speak to ourchildren and our loved ones.
Speaker 1 (11:00):
You know, I came from a big farm family and the old
Germans always bought a farm forevery kid, and so when I told
my grandfather I wanted to be achiropractor, it was destroying
to him, because he said, no, wealready have a year-life plan
for you.
And I said, well, not what I'mgoing to do.
But I had an uncle that was inour family, a weirdo because he
(11:23):
was an interior decorator.
And can you imagine this?
Well, farmers, and here's aninterior decorator.
But he took me under his wingand said it's okay that you're
not a farmer, and he gave me thesupport that I needed to go
through university and thenchiropractic college.
Speaker 2 (11:38):
Oh, that just gives me chills.
What a great story.
Speaker 1 (11:40):
Yes, sometimes there's a person in your life
that can change it, that canchange it.
Speaker 2 (11:46):
Yes, yes, but he was out of that familial pattern,
yes.
And then look at what you'vecreated because of your uncle.
Look at what you've created forour profession and for society.
Speaker 1 (11:57):
But he gave me that vision to do it, and so oh, I
love that story.
Speaker 2 (12:02):
I didn't know that.
Speaker 1 (12:03):
What technique do you use in your practice?
Speaker 2 (12:05):
So we actually do use some activator as well.
So with the pregnant moms, I'vehad pregnant moms and then also
I'm moving into postpartum.
You know we use the activatorsometimes for areas that we are
not able to access, maybesensitive, uncomfortable.
So we do use the activatorquite a bit as well.
Quite a bit as well we alsobecause it is so precise and
(12:32):
it's very specific and you canreally get to like specific
areas with it, you know, andsafe and very safe, exactly so.
We use that, of course, with ourgeriatric population, some of
our children, especially moms.
Sometimes they're nervous abouttheir kids getting adjusted, so
it's a really great tool thatI'm so grateful that you created
.
And then we also use pelvicblocking, and actually in my
(12:55):
talk later this weekend I'mgoing to be going over some
simple pelvic blockingtechniques that people can use.
It doesn't have to be a wholebig thing, but it's simple, easy
.
You know things that they canuse to get some powerful results
.
And then we of course, use Drop, diversified.
We have Webster Technique andsome little bit of soft tissue.
Speaker 1 (13:12):
Sure, you know there's a lot of different
colleges now that are havingspecific pediatric courses.
Yeah, and are you seeing peoplecome out with that?
Is that good?
Speaker 2 (13:23):
I am seeing that I primarily do work with the ICPA.
You know all of my work when Iteach how to work with the
OBGYNs and the midwives andpregnancy has all been gone
through the ICPA because they dosee that in like the main
certifying body.
So but there are other goodcourses too.
But I think that at the bareminimum people definitely should
(13:43):
get you know through the ICPA,the Webster certification.
I love that.
Speaker 1 (13:48):
How do people get a hold of you if they want to?
You know, learn how to takecare of the pediatric world.
Speaker 2 (13:55):
Yeah, yeah.
So whether they want to learnmore about the pediatrics and
the pregnancy, or they want tolearn more about the coaching, I
am on Instagram, so it's justDr Iram Taghir, and then I'm on
Facebook, too, dr Iram Tagir, soI have one of those names that
can't really be forgotten, Iguess, and then we have a
website too of course, tell thename for them, because somebody
(14:16):
might not know how.
Sure, yes.
So my first name is I-R-U-MIram Yep, and then T-A-H-I-R
Tahir.
Speaker 1 (14:27):
Yep, and then.
Speaker 2 (14:27):
T-A-H-I-R.
Tahir.
Yes, and then we have a websitetoo, which is
wwwignite-sparkcom, and wecalled our consulting company.
It's part of a.
We have a parent company calledHigh Point Consulting.
But Ignite the Spark is reallyabout sparking something in our
providers, in our doctors.
(14:48):
You know so many of us, I'msure you've seen this you know
chiropractors.
We do get burnt out.
We get kind of like into thisthing, like over and over again,
same problems.
So Ignite the Spark is reallymoving people out of what
they're used to, into doingsomething different and creating
a spark within.
Speaker 1 (15:06):
Well, I can't thank you enough.
You know we're at Parker hereand we've had several people
today that we're interviewingand we can get them all at one
place.
That's fabulous, and so thankyou for taking time, because I
know you're busy, for justcoming in and being on the
Activate your Practice podcast.
Speaker 2 (15:21):
Thank you.
Thank you so much for having me.
It's been such a pleasure.
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