February 21, 2024 • 37 mins
Gene Lead this Episode on Wellness!
We talk about the 8 areas of Wellness, Physical, Intellectual, Social, Emotional, Financial, Occupational, Environmental, and Spiritual.
Today we had a fun discussion of the different areas we can all be working on! Good luck as you adult! And remember! YOU GOT THIS!
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Gene (00:00):
Today we're gonna talk about wellness and what really
(00:03):
wellness is, I wanna start witha question.
When I say the word wellness.
What
Dad (00:09):
do you think of?
Well, I have a question for you.
Why did the guy fall in the,well, you didn't see
Gene (00:17):
that well, because you can't see that well,
Dad (00:19):
but that's probably not the wellness we're going for.
The wellness that I think of isprobably like physical, like, do
I have a cold?
Do I, you know, am I sick?
Yeah.
I think for
Gideon (00:31):
sure.
I think that I could go more tothe emotional wellness, like
social wellness and like, youknow, feeling good about
yourself.
Wellness.
Ashton (00:41):
I, yeah, I think of yoga.
Gene (00:42):
That's fire.
Yoga or yoga?
Ashton (00:44):
Either one.
Either one.
Welcome to Adulting Decrypted.
We are your hosts.
I'm Gene and I'm starting myfirst year of college.
I'm Ashton.
I'm a music performer, composer,and educator.
I'm Gene a high school senior.
I'm Roscoe the dad.
Those are my three sons, andthis is Adulting Decrypted where
(01:06):
we discuss ways to become adultsand the things we need to know
to be successful at life.
Gene (01:13):
The way that we're going to bounce off the definition of
wellness is a state of optimalhealth that encompasses like all
the dimensions of, well-being,and you touched on a couple of
them, but I wanna touch on eightmajor components today, which
are physical.
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Intellectual, social, emotional,financial, occupational,
environmental, and spiritual.
So there's a lot to cover, butit's, it's all pretty simple.
Dad (01:48):
I like this because we're covering the whole gamut and I
think all of us focus onwhatever we feel like we're
lacking the most.
Ashton might feel like he'smissing out on yoga.
Sure.
You know, I'm going, man, I'mkind of physically not feeling
well the last week, you know,for whatever reason.
So I think if when these eight,what you threw out there are out
of balance, I think we have amaybe a checkoff sheet that you
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can go look at and say, Hey,how's my physical health?
How's my mental health?
So I like where you're going.
Gene (02:15):
Starting out with the, probably the most simple, the
one that comes to mind, at leastfor me when I first think of
wellness and when I firstintroduced to it, is physical.
That the health of our body, ahealthy body weight, physical
fitness, are we sick for anyreason?
Are we physically able to do abunch of things?
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Why do you think it would beimportant to have physical
Dad (02:38):
wellness?, I've shared with, with you guys and the
listener a couple times thatmine was mobility for 20
Twenty-three my word.
Because I realized as I've beenaging that I'm not as flexible
and, and not as able to dothings.
That I used to.
And so being physically unwell,it was limiting me.
Some of the stuff I could do.
(02:59):
I just noticed this morningplaying pickle, or was it this
morning or yesterday morning?
I don't know.
Maybe I'm mentally not well, Ican't remember what, anyways, we
were playing pickleball and Irealized how much easier it was
for me to just pick up thepickleball before I was leaning
on my paddle or having to benddown and put my hand on the
ground.
I'm just bending, picking up theball and going.
I've noticed a difference.
It's taken me a year and almosta year and two months to get
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there, but I've noticed adifference.
Yeah, and
Gene (03:25):
I love that you bring that up because one of the things
that can discourage us fromtrying to seek wellness is not
that immediate gratification oflike, oh yeah, I lifted weights
today, so now I can.
Be as strong as the Rock.
Like it's just not how thatworks.
It's, it's a constantprogressing
Dad (03:48):
I'm bald like the rock.
Maybe I'm Yeah.
You're one step there.
Yep.
One.
And then I need to get to Tanand that I'm golden.
Gideon (03:57):
Yeah.
And he steroids,
Gene (04:01):
he's in.
No, he's not.
He's natural.
He's 50 and looks like that.
Ashton (04:06):
Yeah, it's'cause he's a beast.
Dad (04:08):
You're just jealous.
Gideon (04:10):
I am not because you're
Ashton (04:12):
actually jealous.
You're
Dad (04:13):
15 and you don't look like that.
Ashton (04:15):
True.
Except
Gideon (04:16):
it's not true.
Ashton (04:18):
You're not that either.
Nope.
Dad (04:22):
I don't know what that is.
Gene (04:22):
Anyway,
Ashton (04:23):
you're just taking anabolic steroids.
Dad (04:25):
You better, you better keep, keep control of this.
Gene (04:27):
Yeah.
So we, we mentioned a couplethings to help improve physical
health, like playing sports,like pickleball going to the
gym.
Sometimes it's just going forwalks can really help improve
like physical health andphysical fitness.
And like eating right, all thatkind of stuff kind of ties into
physical wellness, you know?
(04:48):
Then the
Ashton (04:48):
next step.
Oh, sorry.
Go for it.
Ashton.
I was gonna say, I've beenthinking a lot about the the
walking thing.
I haven't done it, but I waslike, that might be good.
Because the weather's been supergood, the past couple days.
It's been like fifties, sixties,and it's just been really pretty
and nice outside.
So every time I'm outside I walka little slower.
Gene (05:09):
Yeah.
And all that helps improve thatphysical and.
It kinda ties into the nextstep, which is intellectual that
aspect of lifelong learning,like a couple things that we
could do, like listening toaudiobooks, keeping up with the
current events that are goingon.
So you're, you're intellectuallythere and being engaged in
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wonderful, thoughtfuldiscussions like this one.
Good job guys.
We're being intellectually well,that's
Ashton (05:40):
crazy.
And you can do it too.
Oh man.
On adultindecrypted.com.
Dad (05:44):
Wow.
Sounds like an ad.
If I, yeah, you guys are being alittle bit sarcastic, but I
think Gene's got a very validpoint.
Is, is dialogue is helpful.
Laughing is helpful.
Right.
But to go specifically tointellectual, I listen to
podcasts, I just listen.
I just geeked out on the wholepirates.
We've talked a lot about piratesand, and, and like the Pirates
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of the Caribbean and all this,well, listening to all these
guys' stories and it's happenedin less than a 30 year period.
It's just wild to me.
I learned a lot.
So I think you're right, genelistening to good audio books
that help us stimulate ourthought.
It doesn't always meanself-help.
Yeah,
Gideon (06:23):
I like that point a lot, dad.
And something that I juststarted doing like two days ago.
So as background, I've spent awhole bunch of time on social
media and just like on my phonethe past couple days compared to
just normal life.
'cause I've you know, I've lostmotivation at times.
So whenever I get the urge tojust get back on my phone, I
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just be Try and take 30 secondsof nothing because I'm I want
that instant dopamine hit ofsocial media where it's just
like exactly that instantdopamine.
And so 30 seconds of justbreathing helps me regain my
thoughts a little bit, thinkmore intellectually, and maybe
make a different decision.
(07:05):
And that's just a little, littlething that I've done that has
helped me a bit.
Gene (07:09):
Yeah.
Dad (07:10):
Thank you for sharing.
Gene (07:11):
And it's all about learning.
So it could just be anythingthat helps us learn whether it
is about some information thatcould actually be vital to
learning about just somethingthat happened back in the 17
hundreds.
It doesn't, doesn't matter.
Like it, it's all learning.
It all helps us.
Keep us.
Intellectually fit.
And then the, the next section Iwanna talk about is emotional.
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That's more of like how we feelabout others and ourselves, our
social skills, our relationshipwith others, kinda that
self-esteem and coping with theroutine stress
Ashton (07:49):
that we have to deal with.
Half of me expected dad torespond first, but that's not
gonna happen.
I do think it's an importantskillset and I think it's
probably one of the moreneglected and harder to train
skill sets while it is rising inpopularity.
I think it's.
(08:10):
Also one that we know less aboutbecause there's like
weightlifting gyms, but there'snot like mental wellness, like
community gyms.
Like there's there, I mean, youhave therapy and you have like
clubs and stuff that you can goto.
And maybe there is, maybe I'mjust not privy to that.
(08:31):
But I dunno, there's just a,there's a aspect about.
Mental social wellness that isstill almost a little taboo.
Gideon (08:40):
Like, just as an example, another way to state
that is like a way to exerciseyour emotional wellness.
Is that kinda what you mean?
Ashton (08:48):
Yeah.
Or like yeah, or just like,because a lot of times
competition drives innovationand there's not really any sort
of competition you do the weightwhole weightlifting thing and
you're always trying to break,you know, your PR or you're
trying to maybe you have funcompetitions with your buddies
about who's got the strongestmuscles or whatever or best
looking muscles or whatever.
(09:09):
You don't hear people goingaround and be like, Hey man, I'm
mentally stable.
I got you beat I 110 mentallystable and you're only at
eighty-five.
You know what I mean?
Like Yeah, I totally get that.
There's just like a a mystery
Gideon (09:23):
aspect to it, I think.
And sometimes we even fight forwho is least mentally stable.
Like how much sleep did you getlast night?
I got six hours.
Ah, sucker.
I only got four, so That's fine.
Ashton (09:35):
Yeah.
Dad (09:36):
Yeah.
So just a quick question.
Have we talked about how to helpourselves in the emotional it,
the, it's emotional wellness?
Is that what we're talkingabout?
Social or emotional?
Emotional
Gene (09:50):
emotional.
Ashton (09:51):
We haven't talked about, like right now, we've talked
about it in past podcasts, butwe haven't talked about like
Dad (09:56):
solving it.
Yeah, I would, I'd reallychallenge us to go back and
listen to like Jerem Ball'sepisode.
We talked a lot about emotionalhealth, but there is a, an
aspect of emotional resilience,So I I like that you said it was
taboo action.
At first, I was like, oh, I'm,I'm really offended by that.
You know, as an, as an olderadult who's going, yeah, well,
(10:18):
sometimes you just have tocowboy up like the song I was
talking about.
And then there's other timesthat.
Life's hard and trying to figureout socks.
And so to find that way to stepback and go, okay, what works
for me?
I think your thing you'retalking about just a second ago,
get in with your intellectualwhere you said, I need to take
30 seconds quiet time before Iclick on Don scroll to my next
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video, decide do I really needthat dopamine hitter?
Is there another way to do it?
So I think emotional wellnessand emotional health is stepping
back and, and looking for thathelp and, and tearing down some
of those taboos behind itbecause.
We're in a whole differentenvironment than we were 10
years ago, eight 20 years ago,30 years ago, back when I was
(11:02):
starting to Doing some of yourintellectual health wellness
that you talked about, doingsome of your physical tonight.
I was very stressed when I firstgot home from work and I was
like, oh, my brain is just.
Mush.
Well, I went and worked out andI felt much better.
You know, so that's not theanswer for everybody.
That's not what I'm saying.
I'm just saying that looking atthis balance of these eight
different areas might help us.
(11:25):
I think they're really related.
To your point, I think we knowthe science of building muscle
mass, even though I probably get18 videos a day that pop up in
my Facebook feed, how to losebelly fat with.
18 different ways to do it.
I think that our mental healthis, is probably similar, is that
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we don't have all the studiesand all the science behind it.
And then once we do, once weknow that there's some, there's
some facts, I think it's stillgonna be debatable.
What might work for me, whatwork for Ashton, what works for
Ashton, might not work forGideon.
You know, there's just a lot ofthat.
Like you today, Ashton mentionedgoing out in the sun, walking.
Looking at the sun, notliterally don't do the sun
(12:06):
stare.
But getting the sun on you isgood for your soul.
It feeds your soul.
Right?
And so it's not, it's anemotional wellness as well, not
just physical.
Gene (12:16):
It's both.
Yeah.
Yeah.
And, and that's the point I'mgetting to get to later, but
they all are completelyinterconnected, which is, is
really wonderful.
And it kind of takes us to thenext point, which is social.
The developing and maintainingof those meaningful
interpersonal relationships.
So how could someone go aboutimproving their social wellness?
Gideon (12:41):
A way is to not be rejection.
Because I know that like a lotof times your mind will give you
a whole bunch of excuses not todo something in a social sense,
not to go talk to that person ornot to start that conversation
with somebody.
You might know their name buthaven't really said hi to a lot.
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And a lot of those excusesaren't
Dad (13:04):
rational, you know, GIDE.
I appreciate that.
One other thing is.
If we can share with thelistener you were having.
You've had a rough couple days.
Life's life's been hard rightnow.
And, and that's not fun.
It's not great.
But you did something tonight.
You went and served a group ofpeople that are less fortunate,
(13:26):
right.
That have differentdisabilities.
And when you came back fromthat, you were in a whole
different headspace.
I don't know if you noticedthat.
Yeah.
That in the gym really helped meout.
Yeah.
So you noticed that.
Well, and even last night whenyou're in it, you did your a
hundred pull-ups and you'relike, okay, I did something, I
accomplished something.
And I was like, this kid's nuts.
It's 10 30 at night, go to bed.
(13:48):
But, but you did something thatthat checked that off your
bucket list.
But tonight you came home in awhole different head space and
it was very social.
Yeah.
Just
Gideon (13:58):
not thinking about yourself.
Dad (14:00):
Yeah.
You went out and served.
And I think that sometimes whenwe get in our headspace.
A social experiment is to gofind a volunteer group, go dish
up food at a homeless shelter,go, you know, go work at a food
pantry.
Those things are free andthey're always looking for help.
But just another, just anotheridea.
It's not always having to breakoutta your comfort zone and
(14:21):
going, okay, I'm gonna go talkto that girl over there.
I'm gonna go talk to that guy.
Sometimes it's just going, okay,I'm scared, but I'm still gonna
go volunteer.
It's also reaching out to oldfriends.
You know, it was great.
I saw a high school buddy ScottBill, who we've had on we went
over to his house and had dinnerand, and visited with his family
is super good for my emotional,my social soul.
Gene (14:44):
And, and I love that you bring that up in social.
It's not just those people thatwe immediately think of and
we're like, oh yeah, my littlesocial circle.
It's.
It's all those that we interactwith, those people that we can
serve and show love in, in thesedifferent ways.
And so the next one is a littlebit more monetary, the financial
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side of wellness.
And it put simply, it's just theability to live comfortably on
what you're getting and beingable to save for emergencies.
That is what it's defined as isphysical.
Well, financial wellness.
It's not considered being like,oh yeah, I'm superbly over the
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successful, it's, Hey, I, rightnow I'm, I can live comfortably.
I don't have to be stressedabout my financial side like
that.
That part's Well, what are yourthoughts
Dad (15:39):
on that?
We talked about how to askbetter questions, spend a little
bit of time.
Because one of the things I'venoticed, listeners, I say right
when I'm asking a question,right?
And I had to take out 48 rights.
Actually, I had to take out 43of them because the other five
of them were, were donecorrectly.
(15:59):
Directional.
Well, not, not necessarily, butI would be agreeing with you,
I'd say.
Yeah, that's right.
Yeah, but not right.
Anyways, great question.
Jean.
Financial.
Well wellness is very specificto the individual, just like
mental and emotional health.
(16:19):
I would imagine if in Ashton'sshoes you're starting out a
career financially, there'stimes, you know, if I am not too
bold to share, but, but you'relike, I'm all over the place.
I'm just trying to get enoughfood, money to food to eat and
car rent and or, well, you don'thave a car payment.
You've paid it off, but.
You're going, there's so muchand it's coming at me so fast
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versus me.
I'm at a different stage andyeah, do I have emotional stress
about money?
Sure, sometimes.
But I, Jean, I think it's tryingto define what your definition
of success and then live withinthose means.
'cause I know people that aremaking a lot of money are not
financially well.
In the sense that it keeps'em upat night going, how do I balance
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my checkbooks?
How do I, how do I live off ofthis and I don't make enough, or
my wife and I are fighting aboutit.
So I like that you said it'scomfortable, it's what, what
matters to me the significantother I choose to go through
life with.
So I think that's a, that everyone of these gene is tough.
None of this, none of thiswellness is easy.
Gideon (17:26):
And like you said, it's really individual and so I guess
the reason why we're talkingabout it is to try and get
people to think about what theycan do for themselves.
Not necessarily just broad,think about the topic while that
is included, but also just howto improve their
Ashton (17:42):
wellness.
Gene (17:44):
And I feel like it's with all these points of, hey, like
what?
Like social state are you goodat?
Because some people, they couldbe friends with a hundred people
and be texting 30 of them dailyand they're like, you know what,
that's not, I'm not, I don'tfeel socially well at this other
people.
If they had that, like, wow.
Yeah, I would be, I'd beoverwhelmed.
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Like, I, I don't know if that'smy spot.
And you gotta find what's wellfor you.
The next one it, it feels kindof connected to financial, but
it is slightly different.
It's occupational and that's thesatisfaction that you have at
your job or that you're doingfor work.
Like are like, are your careergoals consistent with your
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personal values and yourpersonal like aspirations in
life?
What does that make you thinkof?
Gideon (18:34):
Well, I know that we've definitely had an episode on
this with Johnny Hulse, so Iknow that a lot of insight can
come from that episode as well,as well as most of these topics
that we bring up, if not all ofthem, have episodes tied along.
So for the listener, that's aresource you could turn to if
(18:55):
you have any more questions.
I can't remember what I wasgonna say other than
Dad (18:59):
that I, I liked Jason Hewlett asked to solve what we
wanted to do, and Ashton's like,oh, I want, you know, I'm, I,
I'm composing and getting intothe time was BMX and then social
media influencer and Gene went,yeah, I don't know man.
I'm, I'm just getting ready togo on my mission.
I'm not really thinking aboutit.
And Jason goes, well, what don'tyou wanna do?
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And I thought that was prettypowerful.
So for your, or, or occupationalwellness.
I'll be honest, I think there'stimes that you just have to go
to work and not necessarily findfulfillment in it.
You just have to work becauseyou're, you gotta take care of
your financial wellness and, andsome of your other stuff.
And then I think there's timesthat you can go to work and
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you're like, yes, I'm reallyadding value.
For me, that's a big one, isadding value.
Helping others see where theyfit in a company.
I think that's really big for meand I get really juiced by it,
but I can't always do that.
Sometimes I have to go to workand do spreadsheets and get lost
in numbers and it sucks, youknow?
So, but I know that there'senough of my occupation that
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that brings me success and, andthat feeling of I'm doing
something good.
I'd imagine with your careerright now in the high schools.
You're like, yeah, there's partsof this that are just freaking
awesome.
And then there's other parts ofthis that if I never had to do
it again, it would be too soon.
So, and I think that's fair forall.
(20:25):
I know that we, that you'vewritten some, a blog post about
this on how to find the job youlove.
Any insight on that?
Yeah.
Thanks dad.
Gideon (20:33):
I wonder how you knew about that.
Ashton (20:35):
He's just that good.
Gideon (20:36):
I actually have it open already.
That's kind of crazy.
But just along with wellness,it's.
The first point that he eventalks about in the blog is
self-discovery andself-assessment.
It's like, what is gonna workfor you?
Not what's gonna pay the most,what's gonna make your parents
happy.
But it's like, look at yourself.
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That man in the mirror, likealong with what dad said as
well, what makes you feel likeyou have a purpose,
Dad (21:05):
and then my other advice is.
Don't get stuck in one area asyou're going through college.
If you realize now, Gene, you'rea sophomore.
No, you're, are you even asophomore, freshman?
You just started.
Yep.
So, so as a freshman, if youwere like, oh, I'm really
committed to this, and then intwo years you change, that's
okay.
(21:25):
You know, I'm still a fan ofgetting the degree I don't
almost said it right.
I'm a fan of getting the degree.
It doesn't matter what it's in,finish the degree and.
Right now in our currentenvironment, you can reinvent
yourself multiple times in yourcareer and your desire might
change.
Your reason for doing somethingmight change.
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Your job might go away.
So be willing to look at whatyou enjoy or what you could
enjoy.
Gene (21:53):
The next one, I don't think we've talked about.
I was, I was gone for two years,but the next one I wanna talk
about is environmental wellness.
And how that's like how weaffect the environment around us
and how the environment aroundus affects us.
Like, are we throwing our trashjust in the middle of the road,
or are we making sure it'sgetting taken care of and put in
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the right spot?
Are we.
Do we like the environment thatwe're around?
Like is it affecting us in anegative way?
Like, do we able to see a lot ofbad things and it puts us in a
bad attitude?
Or is it, you know what?
I walk around like, man,sunshine's great.
I, I love, like looking at themountains around me
Dad (22:31):
yeah.
I like that you pointed out thatit's sometimes our physical
surroundings outside, but Ithink it also can be the
environment that What state isyour car in or your bedroom in,
or your, huh.
Don't tell anybody, but ourgarage is in.
Right.
That's the environment thatyou're around does it, does it
elicit the feeling that you wantin it?
Gideon (22:52):
I think an interesting point that you brought up Gene,
is how we affect our environmentaround us.
Like you said, throwing trash inthe middle of the street, I
think it could kind of tie backto.
Social aspect that we've talkedabout of not just thinking about
yourself but also thinking aboutthose around us and how that
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trash might affect somebodyaround us where they're like,
oh, well now I have to pick itup.
cause you throwing away yourtrash is a way of showing that
you're not just thinking aboutyourself, you're thinking about
the environments around you andthe people around you.
And I think that could, couldtie into wellness very well.
Ashton (23:33):
Thanks
Gene (23:33):
the next one I wanna talk about is spiritual wellness.
Now, at first when I say this,you might get a little taken
aback and be like, oh yeah, wellwe don't wanna really wanna talk
about religion and because likeeveryone will believe
differently.
But spiritual wellness is thesense of purpose in our life, we
can find that purpose in manydifferent ways.
(23:55):
It, it can include religion alsoincludes like helping others
like service altruism andenjoying the nature.
Just something that canspiritually uplift us.
It may not be in the typical
Dad (24:09):
spiritual way.
Yeah, I'm probably not, I I, Istruggle with this concept a
little bit of betweenspiritualism and church and, if
I understand the, the statementJean correctly is, you know, do
I take time for my soul?
Right?
Do I, do I take time for thedeeper me?
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I think that's, I, yeah, there'sdefinitely, that's important, is
one of the, one of the eightpoints are of this to keep up my
wellness roof for me it'sprayer, right?
Is one of the things that I, Irealize when I'm not doing and
asking for help because that,that feeds my soul.
Gene (24:49):
Ashton, what's one thing that, that you feel like helps
you grow spiritually?
I.
Ashton (24:55):
I think it's kind of cliche because it's kind of what
I say a lot, but I think, Ithink of music as a thing as
just kind of like, and it'sgotta be the right type.
It's gotta be the right genre,it's gotta be the right thing.
'cause like there's, there'smusic out there that's just
like, party hard and you canenjoy it.
There's also music out therethat's been created by people
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that's meant to be an upliftingthing, an uplifting moment.
And I I, I, I do produce songsand stuff, and I generally
wouldn't consider my musicuplifting necessarily, at least
the most recent batch of stuffthat I've done.
However, I was recording like acouple nights ago and and I got
(25:40):
something that I was listeningto and I was like, this is
interesting.
This is a side of music thathasn't come out of, my
production before.
But I'd also been spending a lotof time listening to artists who
I think share spiritual messagesand uplifting messages.
Listening to those sorts ofthings.
I can just kinda give you astate of almost like meditation
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as well.
Like that's kind of what I usethose things for sometimes is
just kind of like a, like anunwind moment.
And I've used that like walkingaround and I've used that just
like laying on my floor, just,you know, listening to music and
just kind of taking in theenergy that an artist is trying
to share.
It's just one way.
Gene (26:21):
Thank you.
And Dad, did you have somethingthat you wanted to
Dad (26:24):
say?
Wow, that's awesome.
Gene (26:28):
Sweet.
And so that, that's all eightpoints and one thing that we
kind of talked about in themiddle, but I wanna readjust
again, is.
The more properly we haveaddressed all eight of these
points, the more well we are inour general wellness and we can
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have certain ones that are athigher spots than others.
Some people can be superphysically and socially well,
but they may not be doing wellas in their occupational or or
spiritual wellness, and that'sjust.
Everyone's at different spots,and so we never really know, but
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as long as we focus oncontinuing to grow our wellness,
we can get better.
And how do you feel like theywork together?
Because some of them are prettydifferent in most people's mind,
like spiritual and financialwellness, but how, how do you
feel like those work
Ashton (27:27):
together?
I think it's all slices of thesame pie, really.
There's also a concept thatwe've talked about before in
like relationships where it'sthe relationships slider.
I don't remember what theepisode's titled or who hosted
it.
But basically the principle is,is like when you get deeper into
a relationship with someone likeI.
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There's different levels thatthese sliders should be, so like
you should be more comfortabletalking to a person than you
should be sharing like intimatemoments with them.
Like you have to build arelationship in order for it to
be a strong and stablerelationship.
And I don't know if there's, Isee a progression in, in these
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wellness steps, so to speak.
Like you want this one so highbefore you work on this one.
But I feel like the overall termof wellness can be derived from
working on different wellnesspoints at different times and
increasing the strength of thoseand kind of balancing them.
Because there will be timeswhere physical wellness is more
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important to you thanenvironmental wellness.
But if you go on anenvironmental wellness streak,
all of a sudden you're on afinancial wellness and you can
kind of like build them up fromdifferent spots.
So I think, I think they're allthe same thing and I think some
lead better to others thanothers, but I think, I think
they can all work together.
Dad (28:52):
Yeah.
You know one of the things Ithink for spiritual, very
specific, I, I, I liked whereyou went there, Ashton with it,
you know, and they're all slicesof the same pie and, and how you
do the slider First I sink in ahamburger.
I guess I'm hungry.
Hmm.
Not necessarily like a dialslide.
Right.
Where you slide those up.
Well
Ashton (29:11):
my music brains, yeah.
Mixing boards, right.
Dad (29:16):
Is that where you were at Gideon?
Gideon (29:18):
I know exactly what he is talking about because I think
I hosted this episode.
I don't
Ashton (29:23):
know what it is though.
Also, I just thought of anotherthing.
Obviously you can't focus on allpoints of wellness at the same
time, I think trying to focus onall of them at the same time is
probably more detrimental thanhelpful.
But going back to me thinkinglike a, like a musician there's
only so much space of stuff thatwe can hear.
And sometimes the melody is moreimportant.
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Sometimes the piano is moreimportant sometimes.
Drum set and, and if you slidthem all up to a hundred
percent, it would just bechaotic, loud sound.
But there's a balancing effectwhere you can say, well, I want
this one down here and this onedown here.
And those little pieces all canequal a hundred percent.
(30:05):
So for someone, physicalwellness might be more
important, but for someone elseit's like, Hey, I've gotta have
my mental wellness in check.
And that's just their differentmix of, of wellness,
Dad (30:15):
I think.
Yeah, so what I like about thosetwo that you just mentioned is
your physical, you mentionedphysical wellness and, and
mental wellness.
Sometimes they're intertwinedwith me.
So for example, your example ofgoing out for a walk and being
in the sun.
For me, if I'm going outpedaling my bike, like if you
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say, Hey, let's go exercise, andI go pedal a bike in a gym, or I
can go pedal my bike down themountain, I, I promise I'm going
to get more.
Wellness from being outside,riding my bike, even though on
my calculator of how manycalories I've burned, they might
be exactly the same, right?
My heart rate might be the same,but I'm able to double dip in
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it, and it feeds, not just, I'llbe honest, it probably even
feeds my soul, right?
There might be some spiritualaspect of being up in the
mountains, you know, so, sothere's times that, and I might
be in the right environment, youknow, so.
It might all actually kinda allblend together except maybe
financial,'cause I'm spendingmoney on a bike or I'm excited
'cause I'm like, Hey, I've usedthis bike now for
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Three-hundred-and-fifty rides.
And so it really might, alleight of'em might come into
play.
But to your point, Ashton,they're in the right volume set
that it makes music for me.
Right?
Yeah.
It's not all drum or all, allloud or all but it, but it plays
well with each other.
And there's other times that Iknow when I'm physically ill,
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like when I don't feel good andI'm tired and I've got a cold in
my mental, I'm going, man, Ijust want to quit.
You know?
And, and then sometimes even myspiritual suffers from that, you
know?
So I think, I think sometimeswhen you're having these, these
moments of doubt and concern,can I make it as an adult that
you need to step back and go,okay, what's missing out of
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these eight?
What do I need to spend a littlebit more time on that I might be
lacking?
'cause you're right, Ashley, youcan't focus when you focus on
everything, you focus onnothing.
So you've gotta take a step backand say, I wanna focus on this
one for the next week and that'sgonna help me improve the other
seven.
Gene (32:24):
Thank you for that comment, dad.
I really love it.
'cause they, they really areinterconnected.
They really all do affect eachother.
Because the more we arephysically well in the other
areas, the more we're able tofocus on those other areas that
we're not as strong at.
And so we're not more in that,the fight or flight, we can
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really feel well in all
Ashton (32:47):
that we do.
Gideon (32:48):
Thank you, Gene.
And just as a callback, a lot ofthese topics.
Have episodes correlated withthem.
So if you wanted to ever go backour episode finder is super nice
on that episode search, I guessis what it's called on our
website.
You can just control f finddifferent topics that you might
be looking for or scroll throughby season or category.
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If you wanted to add to ourReddit.
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We'd love to hear what you think
Gene (33:22):
all right.
I'll start recording then yourbackground, then I'll pop on
over to the other spot.
Ashton (33:28):
And sorry, does it add any value for you to like have
your screen shared?
Oh wait.
No, don't do that.
I lied to that.
Have a choice.
It wouldn't matter and it would
Gene (33:39):
mess up everything else.
Ashton (33:41):
Yep.
I realized.
Today we're gonna talk about wellness and what really
(00:03):
wellness is, I wanna start witha question.
When I say the word wellness.
What
Dad (00:09):
do you think of?
Well, I have a question for you.
Why did the guy fall in the,well, you didn't see
Gene (00:17):
that well, because you can't see that well,
Dad (00:19):
but that's probably not the wellness we're going for.
The wellness that I think of isprobably like physical, like, do
I have a cold?
Do I, you know, am I sick?
Yeah.
I think for
Gideon (00:31):
sure.
I think that I could go more tothe emotional wellness, like
social wellness and like, youknow, feeling good about
yourself.
Wellness.
Ashton (00:41):
I, yeah, I think of yoga.
Gene (00:42):
That's fire.
Yoga or yoga?
Ashton (00:44):
Either one.
Either one.
Welcome to Adulting Decrypted.
We are your hosts.
I'm Gene and I'm starting myfirst year of college.
I'm Ashton.
I'm a music performer, composer,and educator.
I'm Gene a high school senior.
I'm Roscoe the dad.
Those are my three sons, andthis is Adulting Decrypted where
(01:06):
we discuss ways to become adultsand the things we need to know
to be successful at life.
Gene (01:13):
The way that we're going to bounce off the definition of
wellness is a state of optimalhealth that encompasses like all
the dimensions of, well-being,and you touched on a couple of
them, but I wanna touch on eightmajor components today, which
are physical.
(01:34):
Intellectual, social, emotional,financial, occupational,
environmental, and spiritual.
So there's a lot to cover, butit's, it's all pretty simple.
Dad (01:48):
I like this because we're covering the whole gamut and I
think all of us focus onwhatever we feel like we're
lacking the most.
Ashton might feel like he'smissing out on yoga.
Sure.
You know, I'm going, man, I'mkind of physically not feeling
well the last week, you know,for whatever reason.
So I think if when these eight,what you threw out there are out
of balance, I think we have amaybe a checkoff sheet that you
(02:11):
can go look at and say, Hey,how's my physical health?
How's my mental health?
So I like where you're going.
Gene (02:15):
Starting out with the, probably the most simple, the
one that comes to mind, at leastfor me when I first think of
wellness and when I firstintroduced to it, is physical.
That the health of our body, ahealthy body weight, physical
fitness, are we sick for anyreason?
Are we physically able to do abunch of things?
(02:36):
Why do you think it would beimportant to have physical
Dad (02:38):
wellness?, I've shared with, with you guys and the
listener a couple times thatmine was mobility for 20
Twenty-three my word.
Because I realized as I've beenaging that I'm not as flexible
and, and not as able to dothings.
That I used to.
And so being physically unwell,it was limiting me.
Some of the stuff I could do.
(02:59):
I just noticed this morningplaying pickle, or was it this
morning or yesterday morning?
I don't know.
Maybe I'm mentally not well, Ican't remember what, anyways, we
were playing pickleball and Irealized how much easier it was
for me to just pick up thepickleball before I was leaning
on my paddle or having to benddown and put my hand on the
ground.
I'm just bending, picking up theball and going.
I've noticed a difference.
It's taken me a year and almosta year and two months to get
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there, but I've noticed adifference.
Yeah, and
Gene (03:25):
I love that you bring that up because one of the things
that can discourage us fromtrying to seek wellness is not
that immediate gratification oflike, oh yeah, I lifted weights
today, so now I can.
Be as strong as the Rock.
Like it's just not how thatworks.
It's, it's a constantprogressing
Dad (03:48):
I'm bald like the rock.
Maybe I'm Yeah.
You're one step there.
Yep.
One.
And then I need to get to Tanand that I'm golden.
Gideon (03:57):
Yeah.
And he steroids,
Gene (04:01):
he's in.
No, he's not.
He's natural.
He's 50 and looks like that.
Ashton (04:06):
Yeah, it's'cause he's a beast.
Dad (04:08):
You're just jealous.
Gideon (04:10):
I am not because you're
Ashton (04:12):
actually jealous.
You're
Dad (04:13):
15 and you don't look like that.
Ashton (04:15):
True.
Except
Gideon (04:16):
it's not true.
Ashton (04:18):
You're not that either.
Nope.
Dad (04:22):
I don't know what that is.
Gene (04:22):
Anyway,
Ashton (04:23):
you're just taking anabolic steroids.
Dad (04:25):
You better, you better keep, keep control of this.
Gene (04:27):
Yeah.
So we, we mentioned a couplethings to help improve physical
health, like playing sports,like pickleball going to the
gym.
Sometimes it's just going forwalks can really help improve
like physical health andphysical fitness.
And like eating right, all thatkind of stuff kind of ties into
physical wellness, you know?
(04:48):
Then the
Ashton (04:48):
next step.
Oh, sorry.
Go for it.
Ashton.
I was gonna say, I've beenthinking a lot about the the
walking thing.
I haven't done it, but I waslike, that might be good.
Because the weather's been supergood, the past couple days.
It's been like fifties, sixties,and it's just been really pretty
and nice outside.
So every time I'm outside I walka little slower.
Gene (05:09):
Yeah.
And all that helps improve thatphysical and.
It kinda ties into the nextstep, which is intellectual that
aspect of lifelong learning,like a couple things that we
could do, like listening toaudiobooks, keeping up with the
current events that are goingon.
So you're, you're intellectuallythere and being engaged in
(05:33):
wonderful, thoughtfuldiscussions like this one.
Good job guys.
We're being intellectually well,that's
Ashton (05:40):
crazy.
And you can do it too.
Oh man.
On adultindecrypted.com.
Dad (05:44):
Wow.
Sounds like an ad.
If I, yeah, you guys are being alittle bit sarcastic, but I
think Gene's got a very validpoint.
Is, is dialogue is helpful.
Laughing is helpful.
Right.
But to go specifically tointellectual, I listen to
podcasts, I just listen.
I just geeked out on the wholepirates.
We've talked a lot about piratesand, and, and like the Pirates
(06:05):
of the Caribbean and all this,well, listening to all these
guys' stories and it's happenedin less than a 30 year period.
It's just wild to me.
I learned a lot.
So I think you're right, genelistening to good audio books
that help us stimulate ourthought.
It doesn't always meanself-help.
Yeah,
Gideon (06:23):
I like that point a lot, dad.
And something that I juststarted doing like two days ago.
So as background, I've spent awhole bunch of time on social
media and just like on my phonethe past couple days compared to
just normal life.
'cause I've you know, I've lostmotivation at times.
So whenever I get the urge tojust get back on my phone, I
(06:44):
just be Try and take 30 secondsof nothing because I'm I want
that instant dopamine hit ofsocial media where it's just
like exactly that instantdopamine.
And so 30 seconds of justbreathing helps me regain my
thoughts a little bit, thinkmore intellectually, and maybe
make a different decision.
(07:05):
And that's just a little, littlething that I've done that has
helped me a bit.
Gene (07:09):
Yeah.
Dad (07:10):
Thank you for sharing.
Gene (07:11):
And it's all about learning.
So it could just be anythingthat helps us learn whether it
is about some information thatcould actually be vital to
learning about just somethingthat happened back in the 17
hundreds.
It doesn't, doesn't matter.
Like it, it's all learning.
It all helps us.
Keep us.
Intellectually fit.
And then the, the next section Iwanna talk about is emotional.
(07:36):
That's more of like how we feelabout others and ourselves, our
social skills, our relationshipwith others, kinda that
self-esteem and coping with theroutine stress
Ashton (07:49):
that we have to deal with.
Half of me expected dad torespond first, but that's not
gonna happen.
I do think it's an importantskillset and I think it's
probably one of the moreneglected and harder to train
skill sets while it is rising inpopularity.
I think it's.
(08:10):
Also one that we know less aboutbecause there's like
weightlifting gyms, but there'snot like mental wellness, like
community gyms.
Like there's there, I mean, youhave therapy and you have like
clubs and stuff that you can goto.
And maybe there is, maybe I'mjust not privy to that.
(08:31):
But I dunno, there's just a,there's a aspect about.
Mental social wellness that isstill almost a little taboo.
Gideon (08:40):
Like, just as an example, another way to state
that is like a way to exerciseyour emotional wellness.
Is that kinda what you mean?
Ashton (08:48):
Yeah.
Or like yeah, or just like,because a lot of times
competition drives innovationand there's not really any sort
of competition you do the weightwhole weightlifting thing and
you're always trying to break,you know, your PR or you're
trying to maybe you have funcompetitions with your buddies
about who's got the strongestmuscles or whatever or best
looking muscles or whatever.
(09:09):
You don't hear people goingaround and be like, Hey man, I'm
mentally stable.
I got you beat I 110 mentallystable and you're only at
eighty-five.
You know what I mean?
Like Yeah, I totally get that.
There's just like a a mystery
Gideon (09:23):
aspect to it, I think.
And sometimes we even fight forwho is least mentally stable.
Like how much sleep did you getlast night?
I got six hours.
Ah, sucker.
I only got four, so That's fine.
Ashton (09:35):
Yeah.
Dad (09:36):
Yeah.
So just a quick question.
Have we talked about how to helpourselves in the emotional it,
the, it's emotional wellness?
Is that what we're talkingabout?
Social or emotional?
Emotional
Gene (09:50):
emotional.
Ashton (09:51):
We haven't talked about, like right now, we've talked
about it in past podcasts, butwe haven't talked about like
Dad (09:56):
solving it.
Yeah, I would, I'd reallychallenge us to go back and
listen to like Jerem Ball'sepisode.
We talked a lot about emotionalhealth, but there is a, an
aspect of emotional resilience,So I I like that you said it was
taboo action.
At first, I was like, oh, I'm,I'm really offended by that.
You know, as an, as an olderadult who's going, yeah, well,
(10:18):
sometimes you just have tocowboy up like the song I was
talking about.
And then there's other timesthat.
Life's hard and trying to figureout socks.
And so to find that way to stepback and go, okay, what works
for me?
I think your thing you'retalking about just a second ago,
get in with your intellectualwhere you said, I need to take
30 seconds quiet time before Iclick on Don scroll to my next
(10:41):
video, decide do I really needthat dopamine hitter?
Is there another way to do it?
So I think emotional wellnessand emotional health is stepping
back and, and looking for thathelp and, and tearing down some
of those taboos behind itbecause.
We're in a whole differentenvironment than we were 10
years ago, eight 20 years ago,30 years ago, back when I was
(11:02):
starting to Doing some of yourintellectual health wellness
that you talked about, doingsome of your physical tonight.
I was very stressed when I firstgot home from work and I was
like, oh, my brain is just.
Mush.
Well, I went and worked out andI felt much better.
You know, so that's not theanswer for everybody.
That's not what I'm saying.
I'm just saying that looking atthis balance of these eight
different areas might help us.
(11:25):
I think they're really related.
To your point, I think we knowthe science of building muscle
mass, even though I probably get18 videos a day that pop up in
my Facebook feed, how to losebelly fat with.
18 different ways to do it.
I think that our mental healthis, is probably similar, is that
(11:45):
we don't have all the studiesand all the science behind it.
And then once we do, once weknow that there's some, there's
some facts, I think it's stillgonna be debatable.
What might work for me, whatwork for Ashton, what works for
Ashton, might not work forGideon.
You know, there's just a lot ofthat.
Like you today, Ashton mentionedgoing out in the sun, walking.
Looking at the sun, notliterally don't do the sun
(12:06):
stare.
But getting the sun on you isgood for your soul.
It feeds your soul.
Right?
And so it's not, it's anemotional wellness as well, not
just physical.
Gene (12:16):
It's both.
Yeah.
Yeah.
And, and that's the point I'mgetting to get to later, but
they all are completelyinterconnected, which is, is
really wonderful.
And it kind of takes us to thenext point, which is social.
The developing and maintainingof those meaningful
interpersonal relationships.
So how could someone go aboutimproving their social wellness?
Gideon (12:41):
A way is to not be rejection.
Because I know that like a lotof times your mind will give you
a whole bunch of excuses not todo something in a social sense,
not to go talk to that person ornot to start that conversation
with somebody.
You might know their name buthaven't really said hi to a lot.
(13:02):
And a lot of those excusesaren't
Dad (13:04):
rational, you know, GIDE.
I appreciate that.
One other thing is.
If we can share with thelistener you were having.
You've had a rough couple days.
Life's life's been hard rightnow.
And, and that's not fun.
It's not great.
But you did something tonight.
You went and served a group ofpeople that are less fortunate,
(13:26):
right.
That have differentdisabilities.
And when you came back fromthat, you were in a whole
different headspace.
I don't know if you noticedthat.
Yeah.
That in the gym really helped meout.
Yeah.
So you noticed that.
Well, and even last night whenyou're in it, you did your a
hundred pull-ups and you'relike, okay, I did something, I
accomplished something.
And I was like, this kid's nuts.
It's 10 30 at night, go to bed.
(13:48):
But, but you did something thatthat checked that off your
bucket list.
But tonight you came home in awhole different head space and
it was very social.
Yeah.
Just
Gideon (13:58):
not thinking about yourself.
Dad (14:00):
Yeah.
You went out and served.
And I think that sometimes whenwe get in our headspace.
A social experiment is to gofind a volunteer group, go dish
up food at a homeless shelter,go, you know, go work at a food
pantry.
Those things are free andthey're always looking for help.
But just another, just anotheridea.
It's not always having to breakoutta your comfort zone and
(14:21):
going, okay, I'm gonna go talkto that girl over there.
I'm gonna go talk to that guy.
Sometimes it's just going, okay,I'm scared, but I'm still gonna
go volunteer.
It's also reaching out to oldfriends.
You know, it was great.
I saw a high school buddy ScottBill, who we've had on we went
over to his house and had dinnerand, and visited with his family
is super good for my emotional,my social soul.
Gene (14:44):
And, and I love that you bring that up in social.
It's not just those people thatwe immediately think of and
we're like, oh yeah, my littlesocial circle.
It's.
It's all those that we interactwith, those people that we can
serve and show love in, in thesedifferent ways.
And so the next one is a littlebit more monetary, the financial
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side of wellness.
And it put simply, it's just theability to live comfortably on
what you're getting and beingable to save for emergencies.
That is what it's defined as isphysical.
Well, financial wellness.
It's not considered being like,oh yeah, I'm superbly over the
(15:27):
successful, it's, Hey, I, rightnow I'm, I can live comfortably.
I don't have to be stressedabout my financial side like
that.
That part's Well, what are yourthoughts
Dad (15:39):
on that?
We talked about how to askbetter questions, spend a little
bit of time.
Because one of the things I'venoticed, listeners, I say right
when I'm asking a question,right?
And I had to take out 48 rights.
Actually, I had to take out 43of them because the other five
of them were, were donecorrectly.
(15:59):
Directional.
Well, not, not necessarily, butI would be agreeing with you,
I'd say.
Yeah, that's right.
Yeah, but not right.
Anyways, great question.
Jean.
Financial.
Well wellness is very specificto the individual, just like
mental and emotional health.
(16:19):
I would imagine if in Ashton'sshoes you're starting out a
career financially, there'stimes, you know, if I am not too
bold to share, but, but you'relike, I'm all over the place.
I'm just trying to get enoughfood, money to food to eat and
car rent and or, well, you don'thave a car payment.
You've paid it off, but.
You're going, there's so muchand it's coming at me so fast
(16:42):
versus me.
I'm at a different stage andyeah, do I have emotional stress
about money?
Sure, sometimes.
But I, Jean, I think it's tryingto define what your definition
of success and then live withinthose means.
'cause I know people that aremaking a lot of money are not
financially well.
In the sense that it keeps'em upat night going, how do I balance
(17:03):
my checkbooks?
How do I, how do I live off ofthis and I don't make enough, or
my wife and I are fighting aboutit.
So I like that you said it'scomfortable, it's what, what
matters to me the significantother I choose to go through
life with.
So I think that's a, that everyone of these gene is tough.
None of this, none of thiswellness is easy.
Gideon (17:26):
And like you said, it's really individual and so I guess
the reason why we're talkingabout it is to try and get
people to think about what theycan do for themselves.
Not necessarily just broad,think about the topic while that
is included, but also just howto improve their
Ashton (17:42):
wellness.
Gene (17:44):
And I feel like it's with all these points of, hey, like
what?
Like social state are you goodat?
Because some people, they couldbe friends with a hundred people
and be texting 30 of them dailyand they're like, you know what,
that's not, I'm not, I don'tfeel socially well at this other
people.
If they had that, like, wow.
Yeah, I would be, I'd beoverwhelmed.
(18:05):
Like, I, I don't know if that'smy spot.
And you gotta find what's wellfor you.
The next one it, it feels kindof connected to financial, but
it is slightly different.
It's occupational and that's thesatisfaction that you have at
your job or that you're doingfor work.
Like are like, are your careergoals consistent with your
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personal values and yourpersonal like aspirations in
life?
What does that make you thinkof?
Gideon (18:34):
Well, I know that we've definitely had an episode on
this with Johnny Hulse, so Iknow that a lot of insight can
come from that episode as well,as well as most of these topics
that we bring up, if not all ofthem, have episodes tied along.
So for the listener, that's aresource you could turn to if
(18:55):
you have any more questions.
I can't remember what I wasgonna say other than
Dad (18:59):
that I, I liked Jason Hewlett asked to solve what we
wanted to do, and Ashton's like,oh, I want, you know, I'm, I,
I'm composing and getting intothe time was BMX and then social
media influencer and Gene went,yeah, I don't know man.
I'm, I'm just getting ready togo on my mission.
I'm not really thinking aboutit.
And Jason goes, well, what don'tyou wanna do?
(19:20):
And I thought that was prettypowerful.
So for your, or, or occupationalwellness.
I'll be honest, I think there'stimes that you just have to go
to work and not necessarily findfulfillment in it.
You just have to work becauseyou're, you gotta take care of
your financial wellness and, andsome of your other stuff.
And then I think there's timesthat you can go to work and
(19:44):
you're like, yes, I'm reallyadding value.
For me, that's a big one, isadding value.
Helping others see where theyfit in a company.
I think that's really big for meand I get really juiced by it,
but I can't always do that.
Sometimes I have to go to workand do spreadsheets and get lost
in numbers and it sucks, youknow?
So, but I know that there'senough of my occupation that
(20:04):
that brings me success and, andthat feeling of I'm doing
something good.
I'd imagine with your careerright now in the high schools.
You're like, yeah, there's partsof this that are just freaking
awesome.
And then there's other parts ofthis that if I never had to do
it again, it would be too soon.
So, and I think that's fair forall.
(20:25):
I know that we, that you'vewritten some, a blog post about
this on how to find the job youlove.
Any insight on that?
Yeah.
Thanks dad.
Gideon (20:33):
I wonder how you knew about that.
Ashton (20:35):
He's just that good.
Gideon (20:36):
I actually have it open already.
That's kind of crazy.
But just along with wellness,it's.
The first point that he eventalks about in the blog is
self-discovery andself-assessment.
It's like, what is gonna workfor you?
Not what's gonna pay the most,what's gonna make your parents
happy.
But it's like, look at yourself.
(20:57):
That man in the mirror, likealong with what dad said as
well, what makes you feel likeyou have a purpose,
Dad (21:05):
and then my other advice is.
Don't get stuck in one area asyou're going through college.
If you realize now, Gene, you'rea sophomore.
No, you're, are you even asophomore, freshman?
You just started.
Yep.
So, so as a freshman, if youwere like, oh, I'm really
committed to this, and then intwo years you change, that's
okay.
(21:25):
You know, I'm still a fan ofgetting the degree I don't
almost said it right.
I'm a fan of getting the degree.
It doesn't matter what it's in,finish the degree and.
Right now in our currentenvironment, you can reinvent
yourself multiple times in yourcareer and your desire might
change.
Your reason for doing somethingmight change.
(21:46):
Your job might go away.
So be willing to look at whatyou enjoy or what you could
enjoy.
Gene (21:53):
The next one, I don't think we've talked about.
I was, I was gone for two years,but the next one I wanna talk
about is environmental wellness.
And how that's like how weaffect the environment around us
and how the environment aroundus affects us.
Like, are we throwing our trashjust in the middle of the road,
or are we making sure it'sgetting taken care of and put in
(22:15):
the right spot?
Are we.
Do we like the environment thatwe're around?
Like is it affecting us in anegative way?
Like, do we able to see a lot ofbad things and it puts us in a
bad attitude?
Or is it, you know what?
I walk around like, man,sunshine's great.
I, I love, like looking at themountains around me
Dad (22:31):
yeah.
I like that you pointed out thatit's sometimes our physical
surroundings outside, but Ithink it also can be the
environment that What state isyour car in or your bedroom in,
or your, huh.
Don't tell anybody, but ourgarage is in.
Right.
That's the environment thatyou're around does it, does it
elicit the feeling that you wantin it?
Gideon (22:52):
I think an interesting point that you brought up Gene,
is how we affect our environmentaround us.
Like you said, throwing trash inthe middle of the street, I
think it could kind of tie backto.
Social aspect that we've talkedabout of not just thinking about
yourself but also thinking aboutthose around us and how that
(23:13):
trash might affect somebodyaround us where they're like,
oh, well now I have to pick itup.
cause you throwing away yourtrash is a way of showing that
you're not just thinking aboutyourself, you're thinking about
the environments around you andthe people around you.
And I think that could, couldtie into wellness very well.
Ashton (23:33):
Thanks
Gene (23:33):
the next one I wanna talk about is spiritual wellness.
Now, at first when I say this,you might get a little taken
aback and be like, oh yeah, wellwe don't wanna really wanna talk
about religion and because likeeveryone will believe
differently.
But spiritual wellness is thesense of purpose in our life, we
can find that purpose in manydifferent ways.
(23:55):
It, it can include religion alsoincludes like helping others
like service altruism andenjoying the nature.
Just something that canspiritually uplift us.
It may not be in the typical
Dad (24:09):
spiritual way.
Yeah, I'm probably not, I I, Istruggle with this concept a
little bit of betweenspiritualism and church and, if
I understand the, the statementJean correctly is, you know, do
I take time for my soul?
Right?
Do I, do I take time for thedeeper me?
(24:29):
I think that's, I, yeah, there'sdefinitely, that's important, is
one of the, one of the eightpoints are of this to keep up my
wellness roof for me it'sprayer, right?
Is one of the things that I, Irealize when I'm not doing and
asking for help because that,that feeds my soul.
Gene (24:49):
Ashton, what's one thing that, that you feel like helps
you grow spiritually?
I.
Ashton (24:55):
I think it's kind of cliche because it's kind of what
I say a lot, but I think, Ithink of music as a thing as
just kind of like, and it'sgotta be the right type.
It's gotta be the right genre,it's gotta be the right thing.
'cause like there's, there'smusic out there that's just
like, party hard and you canenjoy it.
There's also music out therethat's been created by people
(25:17):
that's meant to be an upliftingthing, an uplifting moment.
And I I, I, I do produce songsand stuff, and I generally
wouldn't consider my musicuplifting necessarily, at least
the most recent batch of stuffthat I've done.
However, I was recording like acouple nights ago and and I got
(25:40):
something that I was listeningto and I was like, this is
interesting.
This is a side of music thathasn't come out of, my
production before.
But I'd also been spending a lotof time listening to artists who
I think share spiritual messagesand uplifting messages.
Listening to those sorts ofthings.
I can just kinda give you astate of almost like meditation
(26:00):
as well.
Like that's kind of what I usethose things for sometimes is
just kind of like a, like anunwind moment.
And I've used that like walkingaround and I've used that just
like laying on my floor, just,you know, listening to music and
just kind of taking in theenergy that an artist is trying
to share.
It's just one way.
Gene (26:21):
Thank you.
And Dad, did you have somethingthat you wanted to
Dad (26:24):
say?
Wow, that's awesome.
Gene (26:28):
Sweet.
And so that, that's all eightpoints and one thing that we
kind of talked about in themiddle, but I wanna readjust
again, is.
The more properly we haveaddressed all eight of these
points, the more well we are inour general wellness and we can
(26:51):
have certain ones that are athigher spots than others.
Some people can be superphysically and socially well,
but they may not be doing wellas in their occupational or or
spiritual wellness, and that'sjust.
Everyone's at different spots,and so we never really know, but
(27:12):
as long as we focus oncontinuing to grow our wellness,
we can get better.
And how do you feel like theywork together?
Because some of them are prettydifferent in most people's mind,
like spiritual and financialwellness, but how, how do you
feel like those work
Ashton (27:27):
together?
I think it's all slices of thesame pie, really.
There's also a concept thatwe've talked about before in
like relationships where it'sthe relationships slider.
I don't remember what theepisode's titled or who hosted
it.
But basically the principle is,is like when you get deeper into
a relationship with someone likeI.
(27:50):
There's different levels thatthese sliders should be, so like
you should be more comfortabletalking to a person than you
should be sharing like intimatemoments with them.
Like you have to build arelationship in order for it to
be a strong and stablerelationship.
And I don't know if there's, Isee a progression in, in these
(28:11):
wellness steps, so to speak.
Like you want this one so highbefore you work on this one.
But I feel like the overall termof wellness can be derived from
working on different wellnesspoints at different times and
increasing the strength of thoseand kind of balancing them.
Because there will be timeswhere physical wellness is more
(28:32):
important to you thanenvironmental wellness.
But if you go on anenvironmental wellness streak,
all of a sudden you're on afinancial wellness and you can
kind of like build them up fromdifferent spots.
So I think, I think they're allthe same thing and I think some
lead better to others thanothers, but I think, I think
they can all work together.
Dad (28:52):
Yeah.
You know one of the things Ithink for spiritual, very
specific, I, I, I liked whereyou went there, Ashton with it,
you know, and they're all slicesof the same pie and, and how you
do the slider First I sink in ahamburger.
I guess I'm hungry.
Hmm.
Not necessarily like a dialslide.
Right.
Where you slide those up.
Well
Ashton (29:11):
my music brains, yeah.
Mixing boards, right.
Dad (29:16):
Is that where you were at Gideon?
Gideon (29:18):
I know exactly what he is talking about because I think
I hosted this episode.
I don't
Ashton (29:23):
know what it is though.
Also, I just thought of anotherthing.
Obviously you can't focus on allpoints of wellness at the same
time, I think trying to focus onall of them at the same time is
probably more detrimental thanhelpful.
But going back to me thinkinglike a, like a musician there's
only so much space of stuff thatwe can hear.
And sometimes the melody is moreimportant.
(29:44):
Sometimes the piano is moreimportant sometimes.
Drum set and, and if you slidthem all up to a hundred
percent, it would just bechaotic, loud sound.
But there's a balancing effectwhere you can say, well, I want
this one down here and this onedown here.
And those little pieces all canequal a hundred percent.
(30:05):
So for someone, physicalwellness might be more
important, but for someone elseit's like, Hey, I've gotta have
my mental wellness in check.
And that's just their differentmix of, of wellness,
Dad (30:15):
I think.
Yeah, so what I like about thosetwo that you just mentioned is
your physical, you mentionedphysical wellness and, and
mental wellness.
Sometimes they're intertwinedwith me.
So for example, your example ofgoing out for a walk and being
in the sun.
For me, if I'm going outpedaling my bike, like if you
(30:35):
say, Hey, let's go exercise, andI go pedal a bike in a gym, or I
can go pedal my bike down themountain, I, I promise I'm going
to get more.
Wellness from being outside,riding my bike, even though on
my calculator of how manycalories I've burned, they might
be exactly the same, right?
My heart rate might be the same,but I'm able to double dip in
(30:58):
it, and it feeds, not just, I'llbe honest, it probably even
feeds my soul, right?
There might be some spiritualaspect of being up in the
mountains, you know, so, sothere's times that, and I might
be in the right environment, youknow, so.
It might all actually kinda allblend together except maybe
financial,'cause I'm spendingmoney on a bike or I'm excited
'cause I'm like, Hey, I've usedthis bike now for
(31:20):
Three-hundred-and-fifty rides.
And so it really might, alleight of'em might come into
play.
But to your point, Ashton,they're in the right volume set
that it makes music for me.
Right?
Yeah.
It's not all drum or all, allloud or all but it, but it plays
well with each other.
And there's other times that Iknow when I'm physically ill,
(31:44):
like when I don't feel good andI'm tired and I've got a cold in
my mental, I'm going, man, Ijust want to quit.
You know?
And, and then sometimes even myspiritual suffers from that, you
know?
So I think, I think sometimeswhen you're having these, these
moments of doubt and concern,can I make it as an adult that
you need to step back and go,okay, what's missing out of
(32:06):
these eight?
What do I need to spend a littlebit more time on that I might be
lacking?
'cause you're right, Ashley, youcan't focus when you focus on
everything, you focus onnothing.
So you've gotta take a step backand say, I wanna focus on this
one for the next week and that'sgonna help me improve the other
seven.
Gene (32:24):
Thank you for that comment, dad.
I really love it.
'cause they, they really areinterconnected.
They really all do affect eachother.
Because the more we arephysically well in the other
areas, the more we're able tofocus on those other areas that
we're not as strong at.
And so we're not more in that,the fight or flight, we can
(32:44):
really feel well in all
Ashton (32:47):
that we do.
Gideon (32:48):
Thank you, Gene.
And just as a callback, a lot ofthese topics.
Have episodes correlated withthem.
So if you wanted to ever go backour episode finder is super nice
on that episode search, I guessis what it's called on our
website.
You can just control f finddifferent topics that you might
be looking for or scroll throughby season or category.
(33:12):
And we would love to hear yourthoughts as well.
If you wanted to add to ourReddit.
DM S on any of our socialmedias.
We'd love to hear what you think
Gene (33:22):
all right.
I'll start recording then yourbackground, then I'll pop on
over to the other spot.
Ashton (33:28):
And sorry, does it add any value for you to like have
your screen shared?
Oh wait.
No, don't do that.
I lied to that.
Have a choice.
It wouldn't matter and it would
Gene (33:39):
mess up everything else.
Ashton (33:41):
Yep.
I realized.
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