April 15, 2025 • 49 mins
Liberal Candidate Shannon Miedema and NDP candidate Lisa Roberts share their visions for representing the great great city of Halifax at the federal level, answering both prepared questions and random selections from our "Bucket of Democracy." Conservative candidate Mark Boudreau was invited but unable to participate despite multiple scheduling attempts.
We cover a variety of complex issues in a short time and candidates were challenged by quickly diverting their attention from one issue to the next. Both candidates stood up wonderfully and we'll leave it to the listener to decide who is the best candidate for them.
Topics discussed include: Affordable housing, Canada-US relations, Inter provincial trading, climate action, social connection, the toxic drug and overdose crisis & more.
Election day is April 28th, but voters can cast their ballots earlier at advance polls opening April 18th or at the Elections Canada office on Quinpool Road.
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Speaker 1 (00:01):
Hello listeners and welcome to this special edition
of Afternoon Pint.
Today we'll be speaking withcandidates for the federal
running of Halifax, Nova Scotia,Canada.
Speaker 2 (00:10):
Yes, our hometown.
We're bringing back the bucketof democracy for a second time
to pull random questions and getto know our candidates a little
bit better.
We started this process whenthe by-election was called and
this is the only group thatwe'll be speaking to before the
2025 election.
Speaker 1 (00:28):
Without further ado, grab your pints and your popcorn
as we talk on some of Canada'sbiggest issues, enjoy.
Welcome to the Afternoon Pint.
Who are we here with?
Speaker 3 (00:44):
We are here with Shannon Miedema, the Liberal
candidate for the Halifax Ridingfor the federal election.
Cheers.
Speaker 1 (00:49):
Shannon Cheers, Cheers, Shannon.
So we got a few questions foryou before we get into our big
bucket of democracy.
Speaker 3 (00:54):
Sounds great.
Speaker 2 (00:55):
Let's go Alright.
So let's start off with yourroad into politics.
What's your story?
Tell us about where you camefrom and why you're coming into
politics.
Speaker 3 (01:02):
Yeah, I'm new into politics and I never thought I'd
grow up to be a politician, soI'll start with that.
I have been working for thecity for the last 15 years.
I'm the director of environmentand climate change there, so
working really closely withcommunities across the Halifax
regional municipality, acrosslevels of government, with the
(01:22):
private sector, industry, thepublic, academics, ngos, to
really try and drive positivechange for our community.
And I've hung out with a lot ofpoliticians over the years and
started to kind of think aboutpolitics in the fall as a way
that I could scale my impact anddo even more good for our city
that I love so much.
(01:42):
So started to have someconversations back then.
And, yeah, here I am.
Speaker 2 (01:48):
Awesome, yeah, so I guess that's a really good segue
into the next question of like.
So what are some majorobjectives that Haligonians need
representation for on a federallevel?
Speaker 3 (02:00):
Well, I think Haligonians need representation
across, whatever their interestsand concerns and values are,
and from my perspective, therole of a member of parliament
is to do that, is to listen andreflect and advocate and be a
strong voice for Halifax at thegovernment table Right.
And I've been able to do thatin a smaller way in the job that
(02:22):
I've had here in Halifax.
I get to champion the greatwork and the great people of
Halifax across the country.
I've done it internationallyand it's one of my absolute
favorite things to do and Ithink I could do a great job for
us in Ottawa.
Speaker 2 (02:35):
Awesome, oh, I like that.
And what values do you thinkthat you and your party, like
party leader, align with themost?
So, now that we know MarkCarney is the Liberal leader, so
, yeah, what do you think thatyou guys align the most on?
Speaker 3 (02:50):
Yeah.
So, because I was kind ofconsidering this, I came to the
Liberal Party thoughtfully andhave been pleased with what I've
seen the party do over the lastnumber of years on things I
really care about, like strongclimate policy, like actual
progress on truth andreconciliation.
You know social progress, youknow equity, prioritizing
(03:13):
vulnerability while stillfocusing on economy and other
important issues, and so, yeah,I think it's the party that most
closely aligns with my valuesand, uh, yeah, okay, all right.
Speaker 2 (03:28):
So why should we vote for Shannon Well?
Speaker 3 (03:34):
what we've been hearing at the door is because
we were in a by-election sinceMarch.
Speaker 2 (03:38):
The 2nd you get a longer election process.
That's right.
Speaker 3 (03:42):
We had a three-week head start here in Halifax
compared to the rest of thecountry, and so it's been a
great education to actually hearwhat is top of mind for folks
and what are we hearing most?
And really what we're hearingalmost every door is fear and
concern and sorrow for what'shappening between the Canada-US
(04:03):
relationship and really somerelief and some optimism that
Carney is now at the helm of theLiberal Party and thinking that
that might be a strong choicefor Canada in navigating Trump
and tariffs and figuring out howto build a resilient economy
that's less intertwined with ourAmerican counterpart.
I've been pleased with thestrong approach that the party's
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taken so far and the thingsthat they're rolling out kind of
every day or so, really tryingto figure out how to number one,
try and stop the tariffs in thefirst place.
Number two, you know, haveretaliatory tariffs and then
take that money and use it tohelp people right now that are
getting impacted.
And number three, like let'snot ever let this happen again.
(04:47):
Let's not be asleep at the wheel.
Let's find new markets and newways of running our country.
Speaker 2 (04:53):
No, that's great.
And last, thing, I just want togive you an opportunity to like
tell people about you, likewhere are you from?
Let people know who you are as,like, a person, not just the
politician.
Speaker 3 (05:04):
Yeah, for sure.
Thanks, and I actually findthat the hardest question to
answer.
Funny enough, letting people in.
But no, I grew up in Ottawa andI am the oldest of three
siblings.
I did my undergrad at Queen'sUniversity.
Environment's always been mylongstanding passion, so I did
environmental science there andI came to Halifax to go to
(05:26):
Dalhousie to do my master's.
My husband now husband came todo law school at Dalhousie and
we fell in love with Halifax.
I'm a quarter Newfoundlander.
My grandmother was born andraised in Newfoundland, so I
kind of feel, yeah, I'm not likelike the 100% come from away
maybe.
Also, I've been here for, yeah,23 years and yeah, we used to
(05:47):
travel out east every couple ofsummers and visit our relatives
in Newfoundland.
I love this part of the country.
I love Atlantic Canada and,having worked for the city, you
know I just I love, I love thecommunity, I love the history, I
love that we're a port city, Ilove that we have all these
(06:11):
things going on and we're justthe right size.
You know we have.
You'll always see someone youknow at the market or at a
concert, but you don't knoweverybody.
Right, it's like the perfectsize, perfect size for me.
So, yeah, my husband and Idecided to make our lives here.
We have three kids that we'reraising.
They're 14, 12, and 8.
So busy, busy, busy.
The husband is a lawyer, heowns his own law firm and, yeah,
(06:32):
we love camping, everythingoutdoors.
We have a four-year-old bordercollie that keeps us on our toes
and yeah, just love travelingand, yeah, it's been really
great.
Yeah, so the kids are bluenosers.
Speaker 1 (06:47):
Sounds like you've got a busy busy life.
Speaker 3 (06:49):
Yeah, a great but busy life.
Speaker 2 (06:53):
I've always said that when someone leaves their home
and chooses to make my hometheir home, that's what bigger
compliment can you possibly get?
Speaker 3 (06:58):
Well, that's what I think so great yeah.
Speaker 2 (07:01):
So all right.
So I think that's a good littlekind of intro to who you are,
and I think what's best foranyone who's listening to the
show is we move right into thebucket of democracy.
Anyone who has listened to ourmayor debate quote unquote
debate show.
Speaker 1 (07:18):
So yeah, so to the listener.
Right now we have a bucket ofdemocracy too, very crudely
written in black marker here andit says Fed MP edition at the
bottom.
So this is an assortment ofrandom questions that are very
relevant right now, in this time.
If you're voting in the nextelection, you might be
interested in some of theanswers we're about to pull here
, so we're going to pull them atrandom.
(07:39):
Question number one.
Oh, and you get points yeah.
Speaker 3 (07:44):
Oh my gosh, are you judging me on this?
Well, I mean.
Nobody told me that.
Speaker 2 (07:50):
Have you ever watched Whose Line Is it?
Anyway, we award points, butthey don't really count.
Yeah, we just gotta give randompoints.
Speaker 1 (07:57):
Alright, and we call you out if you don't answer the
question.
But, other than that we'rereally nice.
Okay, given that some countriesown their natural resources,
which can result in the wealthof their nation, would you
support the government gettinginvolved with owning and selling
its resources?
I can reread that if I readthat weird.
Speaker 3 (08:22):
No, I think I got it.
I was just kind of questioningwhether we do or don't own our
resources right now, unless Imisunderstood the question.
Speaker 1 (08:31):
Yeah, I guess it's really more.
This is more of a tradequestion, matt.
Speaker 2 (08:34):
It's a yeah, I would say like the intention of when
we were talking to people, sowhen we were talking well and
also like actually tuning, likethe government act because we
have businesses that go in andmine and own those resources
essentially and sell them off.
Yeah, so it would be more likecanada is now the oil company
type of thing.
Speaker 3 (08:53):
So, or whatever what I will say is that canada has
long been an export economy andwe have been blessed with a
bounty of natural resources, andI think that they get used and
profited from in different ways.
I think at this time that we'rein right now, it's really
(09:13):
important for us to be thinkingof ways to grow our export
economy in a fashion thatdoesn't set us back on other
priorities.
So I would like to see us focuson wind resource.
You know, halifax, nova Scotia,has a massive offshore wind
resource and a great onshorewind resource, and I really
think that that's something thatwe can.
(09:35):
We can use for our own benefit.
We can also grow our exporteconomy on that.
There's lots of work going onthere now.
There's the potential for it toactually create green hydrogen
market, and that's somethingthat a lot of people are talking
about in Europe and Canada andeverywhere and we can be leaders
in this space and we can growkind of an entire sector with
(09:56):
good jobs and good money inthings like that.
I don't presume to know aboutmineral rights in any great
detail, so I'm not going tocomment on that.
Speaker 2 (10:06):
No, that's fair.
That's fair.
Yeah, I'll give you the point.
Yeah, there you go we get thepoint Okay, one point.
Speaker 4 (10:11):
Okay, fine, I'll try harder next time.
Speaker 3 (10:14):
Oh, you only get one point.
You only get one point or youdon't get the point.
I was like is max five.
Yeah, it's thumbs up, though nono, we've given half points
full points or no points.
Speaker 1 (10:24):
Okay, oh, we didn't give a half point.
You're right, we've given halfpoints.
We already gave him the full.
So there you go.
Speaker 2 (10:30):
Can't take it back now.
So what policies can agovernment implement to have the
house function in a more kindmanner?
As we know, it can be a bitchaotic and not so kind.
Speaker 3 (10:44):
That's a really great question.
I do know that there are ethics, written ethics things that
people abide to, Even in acampaign.
You have to sign on that you'regoing to abide by the campaign
rules as a candidate, and Ithink that's really important.
Right Like this is not a timeto be name calling and acting
like bullies and acting likechildren.
(11:05):
We really need to be adultshere, we need to be professional
and we need to haveconstructive and collaborative
conversation.
Uh I I.
If there are any ways for thehouse to increase its ability to
enforce that level ofexpectation and respect, I think
that would be wonderful.
I think we definitely need tochange the tune.
Speaker 1 (11:28):
Point awarded.
Yeah, I like it.
Oh, it's your turn.
Keep going, keep moving alonghere, see how many points you
can get.
Speaker 3 (11:34):
Okay, competition, I love it.
Speaker 1 (11:36):
All right.
What does responsibleimmigration look like to you?
Speaker 3 (11:43):
Yeah, good one.
I think responsible immigrationis immigration into our country
in a way that enables thepeople coming in to thrive.
So they need housing, they needinfrastructure, they need
education, they need jobs, whilenot disadvantaging the people
(12:04):
that are here.
Right, it's just a balancedconsideration.
And you know we need newcomers,we need immigrants.
I think they add to what it isto be Canadian.
I think they add to the richfabric of Canada.
We are wonderfullymulticultural and I think that
you know it always helps.
(12:25):
I think I look at my childrenand they don't even see
diversity in the way that we didin my generation or let alone
in my parents' generation.
Like, I think it's wonderfulwhat's happening in that respect
.
It's just, we need to make surethat.
You know.
We want everybody to thrive asCanadians, regardless of whether
they're new or have been herefor generations.
Speaker 1 (12:44):
You happy with that one.
I think it's really good.
All right, perfect, let's getgoing.
Speaker 2 (12:48):
That kind of goes back to the whole compliment
that I say when someone choosesmy home to be their home.
It's the ultimate complimentthere you go Love it All right.
So next one here is shouldhealth care be fully taken over
by the federal government orit'll be left for the provinces
to manage?
Speaker 3 (13:06):
That's a tricky one.
I would say that one of thethings that's the hardest to
manage in Canada which is alsopart of the beauty of Canada is
that we have jurisdictionaldivide across levels of
government on really importantissues and often a shared
responsibility or shared mandate.
It happens in healthcare, ithappens in housing, it happens
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in environment.
It happens across a lot ofconsiderations, and I think what
we need is really good, strong,clear understanding of whose
role and responsibility what isand to make sure that the
funding gets where it needs tobe.
And I do think you know, attimes it's important for the
federal government to step in ifthere's something of national
(13:51):
import that really needs to bethat all provinces and
territories need to get on boardwith.
I think that that is animportant role for the federal
government.
I think that the Liberal Partyhas done that in some instances
recently.
Speaker 2 (14:04):
If you can speak a little bit further on that.
Deeper, because do you thinkthat we could almost see a more
fair distribution of doctorsthroughout the country if the
feds just took that over?
Speaker 3 (14:18):
I don't know what the answer is on.
Speaker 4 (14:19):
that.
That's fair, that's a fineanswer.
Speaker 3 (14:22):
I don't know how that would play out.
I don't think that would helpthe relationship between the
federal government and theprovinces and territories,
because of that jurisdictionaldivide.
I do think we need to keepfinding solutions to deal with
the major healthcare issues thatwe have here.
Speaker 2 (14:38):
That's fair.
That's a fair answer.
That's a real tough question.
That's a real tough question.
That's a very tough question.
Yeah, very hard question.
Speaker 1 (14:44):
No, we like the questions with no winning answer
.
Speaker 4 (14:48):
They're the fun ones to answer yeah.
Speaker 1 (14:49):
Okay, this question here where do you stand on
medical assisted death or MAID?
Speaker 3 (14:57):
Where do I stand on it?
Personally, I think it's animportant piece of the progress
that we're making in health care.
I've heard lots of differentindividual stories and I think
it's really important.
It's also needing reallycareful policy so that it
doesn't get misused ormisdirected.
Speaker 2 (15:29):
And I would say we're still in really early stage of
having this ability and thislegislation and it needs a lot
of people kind of at the tablemaking sure that it works for
everybody.
No, that's good, that was quick, that was quick.
Speaker 3 (15:37):
Point.
Yeah, it's good, as long as youknow they're going to get
points if they answer them.
I know I'm going to be sad if Idon't get 100%.
You guys, you're quite thekeener.
Speaker 1 (15:42):
You should have seen how slow the mayors were.
Oh my gosh, you're way ahead ofthem.
Speaker 2 (15:45):
Way ahead.
Yeah, the mayors answer likefour or five questions.
Speaker 1 (15:48):
Except for Zoran.
Speaker 2 (15:49):
Oh, he went through it pretty quick.
He was a machine.
Speaker 1 (15:52):
Okay.
Will your government helpremove and expedite the barriers
with interprovincial trading?
Say yes, well, yes, yes.
I can say that because it'salready been said also by Prime.
Speaker 3 (16:07):
Minister Carney.
And yeah, I just keep wonderingwhy we haven't done it sooner.
But I think that's kind of whata lot of Canadians are
reflecting on right now.
You know, we got a little bitasleep at the wheel, reliant on
our southern partner, and now weunderstand what that can do.
Speaker 1 (16:22):
There is another side of it, though, that it could
choke out some smaller localbusinesses.
Now, I've heard this.
I don't know if this is true ornot.
Have you heard about that?
Do you have concerns there?
Speaker 3 (16:32):
Well, I've spoken to several small medium businesses
and different industries and Ihaven't heard anything negative
about the idea.
All all I've heard is likewe've been asking for this
forever.
We really want this.
We feel positive about it.
Now, of course, it will dependon how this happens, like what
the details are, but I think wehave a great opportunity.
Speaker 4 (16:51):
Yeah.
Speaker 1 (16:52):
Love it, quick point.
There you go.
Speaker 2 (16:54):
No, that's good, All right.
So this is a you question.
So, if you so, shannon, theperson gets elected.
What is the first cause thatyou want to fight for, to
implement?
Speaker 3 (17:07):
The first cause.
Speaker 2 (17:09):
Yeah, like what's near and dear to your heart,
that you're going to go in thereand you're going to be like,
listen, prime Minister Carney,this is what I want.
You know I got a strong mandateand this is what I want for my
people.
Speaker 3 (17:19):
So, outside of navigating what is critical to
deal with first, like Trump,tariffs, economy, etc.
Obviously my passion issue isclimate and environment and
always has been and will alwaysbe.
And it's funny because workingfor the city, trying to drive
climate action, try to betterprepare our communities for what
we saw in 2023, like floods andhurricanes and fires, like you
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know.
We need to be resilient tothose things, to reduce loss in
those situations and be able torebound as quickly as possible,
and that takes.
That actually touches on socialconsiderations, economic
considerations, you know, andthe plan we brought forward is
good for people, good for theeconomy and good for the
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environment.
And I think that theconversation around climate
really is shifting to show thatif we do climate action in the
right way, we're actuallysupporting all these other key
issues.
We have amazing economicdevelopment opportunities.
If we act on climate, we canprevent loss, like we're seeing
in the insurance industry whichyou well know with extreme
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weather events.
Right Like this is, it'sactually it has to be done, and
I think we can do it in a way,as we're like trying to solve
these other issues like theTrump tariffs, we can think
about ways to progress on otherkey issues in Canada, and I'm
really passionate about that.
I think that there's lots ofgreat conversations we could
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have about that.
That would be my first one.
Speaker 1 (18:48):
Okay, well, you did a perfect job.
That is all we have time for inour questions round today.
Just one wrap-up question,derek.
Speaker 2 (18:56):
Well, basically, as a kind of a wrap-up, I want to
give you just a minute or two tojust whatever you want to say
your message.
Last thing to kind of pitchyour last pitch for Shannon,
yeah that's even harder thanthese questions.
Speaker 1 (19:09):
I'm so sorry.
Speaker 3 (19:11):
No, I mean to everybody listening.
I hope that you consider yourvote carefully.
It's it's a very importantelection probably the most
important election in Canada inall of our generations, and
getting out to vote is soimportant.
To exercise your right to vote.
We are a democracy.
We should not take that forgranted, and I really hope to
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earn all of your support as weprogress in this campaign.
Election day is April 28th, butyou can actually vote any day
on Quimple Road, at theelections office or the advance
polls open on the 18th of April.
Speaker 2 (19:46):
Awesome.
And before we cheers, why don'tyou let the people know what
beer you're drinking?
Speaker 3 (19:53):
Oh, I'm drinking the Dirty Blonde Nine Locks just
like the color of my hair.
Speaker 2 (19:57):
Well, cheers to that.
Good luck in your campaign.
We really appreciate this thankyou so much cheers cheers, and
who are we?
Speaker 4 (20:16):
here with I'm lisa ro .
I'm the NDP candidate inHalifax.
Speaker 1 (20:22):
Pleasure to meet you.
Yeah, nice to meet you.
Speaker 4 (20:23):
It's great to be here with you All right.
Speaker 1 (20:25):
So welcome to our show.
Here we have our bucket ofdemocracy.
We're going to dive into thatin a minute, but first we're
just going to go through a fewquestions that we're asking
everyone today.
Okay, so question number oneyour road into politics.
What's your story?
Speaker 4 (20:42):
Oh, I'm going to need to condense this.
Speaker 1 (20:46):
Okay.
Speaker 4 (20:54):
But I'll share that.
I did the campaign school forwomen back in 2011.
And at that point I wasactually watching a lot of
municipal politics in Halifaxand that was back in Peter
Kelly's time and I was inspiredby the leadership of Jennifer
Watts, who at that point was amunicipal councillor and she was
just asking good questions andkind of being responsible.
(21:15):
And I was also at that pointhome, having had my second kid
in a couple of years and I hadbeen a journalist, and I was
feeling like maybe I had gonedown that career path far enough
.
So, yeah, I did the CampaignSchool for Women in 2011.
That eventually resulted in mesupporting Jennifer in her 2012
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municipal campaign Jennifer inher 2012 municipal campaign.
I did slowly wean myself off ofjournalism and in 2016, I was
asked and agreed to run for theNDP in Halifax Needham.
Speaker 2 (21:52):
Fascinating.
I remember that, yes.
Speaker 1 (21:54):
Okay, so question number two what are some major
objectives that haligonians needrepresentation for on a federal
level?
Speaker 4 (22:02):
I mean, for me, um, housing is just huge, um, it
affects so many people and youknow, we just saw the opening of
the first new co-op building ofany size on maitland street in
halifax and I've been lucky tochat with, I think, four
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different households now thatare in that building and it's so
transformative.
The one young couple I talkedwith had been moving every two
years pretty consistently,either because of run eviction
or because of rent know sales ofthe places that they were
renting and just the sense forthem that they can now settle
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into their life without needingto anticipate finding another
home in a couple of years is sohuge, really determined and
consistent focus on increasingthe housing options for people
that are affordable and that are, you know, to a much greater
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proportion in the public sphereor in the nonprofit sphere,
where you know the greatestprofit isn't always going to be
the motivation for the decisionof the folks who own the
property.
Speaker 1 (23:26):
Excellent, okay, great answer.
We can't give a point for thatone.
Speaker 2 (23:29):
Oh, that's okay.
Speaker 1 (23:31):
We're giving points away soon.
We're close, the points get infrom the bucket.
Still a great answer.
Okay.
So next question what values doyou think you and your party
leader align with the most?
Speaker 4 (23:45):
I'm sorry, I don't know if I understand the
question.
Do you mean, in which values doI share?
Maybe pick a value you reallyidentify with?
Jagmeet talk at you know, onmore occasions than most folks,
um, about how he just feelsdeeply that we're all connected.
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So, and and that for me reallyresonates in the way I I put it
in a campaign video that youmight've seen is we're all
better off when we're all betteroff, like my wellbeing is not
disconnected from the well-beingof everyone else in my
community, and that is true onso many different levels and
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it's actually really shown to betrue in all kinds of research.
You know, the more disconnectedwe feel, that's not good for
our health.
There's no individual problemsolving our ways out of the
housing crisis or the climatecrisis and, in fact, connecting
with each other and really likeleaning in on that sense of
(24:48):
connection is part of findingthe pathway out of the
challenges that we face.
So, yeah, that's definitely onewhere I feel like I'm very much
in alignment with him and Ifeel like that aligns with
aligns with broader socialdemocratic principles and
priorities.
Speaker 1 (25:06):
Okay, so we're going to circle around the back a
little bit here, but just tellus a little bit more about where
you're from.
Speaker 4 (25:11):
Yeah, so I actually grew up on the west coast of
Newfoundland.
Speaker 1 (25:16):
Oh, another Newfoundlander, Another
Newfoundlander.
How am I going to vote?
Speaker 4 (25:22):
No, so I grew up in Corner Brook.
My parents had met in LabradorCity in the 1960s.
They got married here inHalifax in the late 1960s and
then I was born in Ottawa, butwe moved to Newfoundland, which
is where my dad is originallyfrom, in 1975.
1975, I was two, and so I livedin Corner Brook until I was 18,
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and then I came to Halifax,came to Dowell, very much
wanting to be in a bigger placethan the place where I grew up,
and so Halifax was the choice,pretty obviously.
Yeah, and so that, and sothat's where I'm from, and I was
away for six years from 1995until 2001.
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I lived for about two years inGuatemala oh cool, that's very
cool.
About two years in Toronto,yeah.
Speaker 2 (26:18):
Not as cool as Guadalajara, not as cool, but I
learned some stuff.
Speaker 4 (26:21):
I got to experience the big city and then about two
years kind of split betweenNewfoundland and other places
and then I very intentionallycame back in 2001.
Brilliant.
Speaker 1 (26:31):
Okay, so last question before we dive into the
bucket why should folks votefor Lisa?
Speaker 4 (26:38):
I mean, I feel like I have built a lot of
relationships and with therelationships comes a lot of
knowledge about Halifax overmore than 10 years.
So I was five years serving asthe MLA for Halifax, Needham,
but for a number of years beforethat I was briefly executive
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director at Vieth House.
Before that I was part-timefacilitator of a project called
the North End Community Circleand, of course, before that I
was a journalist working forInformation Morning at CBC Radio
.
So I just have put a lot of timein learning about the community
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and I have a lot ofrelationships that I can call on
when I'm not certain about whatthe right path is.
Or is this a cause that I wantto put a lot of my time behind?
I've got a lot of folks in thecommunity that I can check in
with to like get a coupledifferent reads on a situation
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and then figure out like how canI be helpful?
Because that's kind of whatdrives me, is I like to be
helpful, I like to play apositive role to resolve issues
or make life better for all ofus collectively.
Speaker 1 (28:03):
That's fantastic.
Well, Matt, I guess it's timewe dive into the bucket.
Speaker 2 (28:09):
It's the bucket of democracy.
Time you did the dun-dun-dun.
Speaker 1 (28:14):
Oh, dun-dun-dun.
I have sound effects on thisboard.
Speaker 2 (28:18):
Want to try one.
Speaker 1 (28:19):
Nope, I don't know the order of them.
Sorry, let's just continue.
That's why I said don't, butanyway, it's all good.
Speaker 2 (28:27):
Okay, so this is basically what we do, is we give
you 10 minutes.
We're going to answer as manyquestions as you can answer.
Speaker 4 (28:32):
Oh my gosh, okay.
So I should be fast becauseanswers yeah, yeah.
Speaker 2 (28:43):
Just answer them honestly, don't give an
incomplete answer.
Okay, you want people to knowyour well-thought answers, right
?
Speaker 1 (28:48):
You can get big points or little points.
Not all points are createdequal, all right.
Speaker 2 (28:56):
All right, you tell me when we're ready to go, Ready
to rock Matt, All right, so allright.
Question number one Ready to go, Ready to rock Matt, All right.
So all right.
Question number one In youropinion, what is the income
dollar amount that should beconsidered in the highest
threshold and what percentage oftax should that be?
So like when you think abouttax brackets, where should that
be now in terms of householdincome, that highest tax bracket
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, and what should be?
What do you think we should betaxed at that highest tax
bracket?
Speaker 4 (29:36):
Oh, my goodness.
I mean my immediate thought isthat I think we need to add
another tax bracket above thetop one and then tax that one
more.
I think maybe the highest one,does the highest one, start at a
hundred or at a hundred, and II don't.
I don't actually know exactly.
Speaker 2 (29:48):
It's a hundred and the highest tax is 126 or 127 or
something like that.
I think it's what it is.
Yes, okay.
Speaker 4 (29:54):
Yeah, so.
So my immediate thought is likeI think we probably need
another one above that and, andyou know, go harder on that All
right.
Speaker 2 (30:06):
All right, that is an answer and that is a point we
give.
Speaker 1 (30:08):
A point Sounds good, okay, next question Should the
federal government prioritize apipeline feeding into Nova
Scotia, and why or why not?
Speaker 4 (30:19):
Yeah, I mean I think I'm more sold on the idea that
actually I saw Jagmeet talkingabout, in the immediate
aftermath of Trump's first setof threats, who can keep track,
which is of an east-westelectricity grid?
(30:39):
Oh okay, electricity grid Umyeah, because we know that you
know a lot of the um.
Currently a lot of likehydroelectric energy flows South
um into the United States andthat is the low lowest carbon
electricity um that we have umavailable to us easily um or at
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least for baseload, in additionto, you know, solar and wind.
And we haven't gotten theAtlantic loop done.
But maybe if this was part ofmore of a nation building
project where it's not sodependent on just like one
region coming together butactually the whole country
coming together, I can get moreexcited about that.
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The pipeline I've heard a lotof different things about the
economics and I'm not convinced.
Speaker 2 (31:31):
Okay, no, that's fair , that's an answer.
And you know what?
I never actually heard aboutthis east to west energy grid
and I actually don't hate thatidea.
I want to read more about that.
Speaker 1 (31:36):
I like different ideas Awesome, yeah, I like it,
and I actually don't hate thatidea.
I want to read more about that.
I like different ideas.
Awesome, yeah, I like it.
Let's go.
Speaker 2 (31:42):
Whoops, there you go throwing things around.
No bonus points now.
Speaker 1 (31:45):
You're throwing questions out of the bucket.
Speaker 2 (31:47):
All right.
So what would your government'sif you formed government,
obviously what would yourgovernment's anti-racism
strategy be?
Speaker 4 (31:54):
Whew, wow, that does not seem like a short question.
That does not seem like ananswer that I could give a short
answer to.
I will say that part of whatmakes the NDP special is our
intentional diversification ofour own caucus, and you know,
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obviously, like Jagmeet Singh isthe only racialized national
leader we've always had.
But also if you look across thecountry at our candidates and
also at our members ofparliament, where the NDP is
more diverse than the otherparties, and so for me, that's
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really a thing that you have towork on with people.
It's not, you know, lisaRoberts' idea of you know how do
you attack or you know, addressracism, but certainly thinking
about it in terms of economicsfor me is really important
because when you think about howCanada was settled and how we
got to our present day, therewere a lot of moments along the
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way when either racializedpeople or indigenous people were
disadvantaged, were exploited,were left out.
You know, when you think aboutthe particular ways that Nova
Scotia was settled in terms ofwho got land grants and who
didn't, and you know who gotsecure title and who didn't, and
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so there's a lot of economicyeah, economic redress that
needs to happen.
I've been really excited aboutthe organizing efforts,
particularly amongst the AfricanNova Scotian community, around
community land trusts, which isa neat way of recognizing that
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community economic developmentcan happen and ownership of
property can happen in a waythat benefits community in the
long run as well as theindividuals, which is much more,
I guess, aligned with my valuesthan seeing property and the
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fact that you end up with alittle piece of Mi'kma'ki and
then you end up with all thebenefit of the increasing
property values.
And how?
Because you built the land.
Oh no, you didn't build theland.
You know like houses andbuildings actually fall.
You know they're like any otherthing that is built.
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They depreciate over time andyet their value keeps going up
and up, and that's because ofthe land right and so for me, um
yeah, thinking about how do we,how do we redistribute land, or
or reimagine how we treat landum is is pretty fundamental well
, yeah, that's a tough question,but I think you gave us a real,
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a real necessary first step,that's.
Speaker 2 (35:01):
That's a good answer too, yeah, really good answer
and I also like the fact thatbecause, like I had this
discussion with my uh, uh, withmy wife on the weekend that you
can't necessarily legislatepeople into not being racist,
right, you have to just keepeducating right and in, like you
said, like lead by example yeah, yeah um, okay, uh,
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transgendered categories insports seem to have many
different points of view.
Uh, how do you feel sportorganizations should handle this
sensitive topic?
Speaker 4 (35:32):
oh, my goodness, um, so first of all well, maybe,
maybe this will just be my wholeanswer I I sort of don't accept
the premise of the question inthat, really, this is a
non-issue or like such avanishingly small issue that has
gotten a huge amount ofattention because men want to
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use it to divide us.
And when you talk to women whoare involved in sport, they're
like we've got a lot of issues,you know, equal pay, equal
playing time, equal mediaprofile, like equal access to
coaching resources, like thereare so many issues for women in
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sport.
This is not one.
This is not one.
And I've gotten to a point inmy understanding of the
transphobia that we see where Ireally just reject that there is
any legitimate issue there.
I really just reject that thereis any legitimate issue there.
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It is just being used as awedge and, yeah, I just full-on
reject it as transphobia.
Speaker 1 (36:50):
I'm giving you the point on that one.
Speaker 2 (36:52):
That's a great answer .
Yeah, good answer.
All right, your turn.
Speaker 1 (36:58):
All right.
Next question Canada isexperiencing a drug toxicity
crisis that is being fueled bysynthetic opioids like fentanyl.
What is one step we hope we cantake to remedy this?
So what's something we can doto help with the drug crisis in
Canada?
Speaker 4 (37:17):
Oh, my goodness, you know people die because we don't
have a safe supply of drugs,unsafe drugs with safer drugs.
(37:42):
That I don't feel like I'm thebest, the best prepared to
respond to.
But I know and, and you know,I'm just immediately my mind and
my heart, my eyes are justimmediately going to a funeral
that my partner and I attendedfor the kid of somebody we
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worked with and I just know thatI wish he was alive.
Speaker 2 (38:09):
Yeah.
Speaker 4 (38:10):
I just wish he was alive.
Speaker 2 (38:11):
Yeah, so yeah, that's fair, that's fair and that's
the thing.
I think some of that stuffcould be rolled out a little bit
better.
I know some.
I watched something about someof the stuff in vancouver where
it was not um, uh, like thepromise that was made for these
houses to be safe was notdelivered.
Yeah, I, I don't know who'sresponsible for it, so it's not
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like a dig in any particulargovernment at all.
I literally don't know who itjust I saw this and someone went
in and they wore like secretcameras and went in there and
these clean, safe places didn'tlook clean or safe.
Yeah, so yeah.
Speaker 4 (38:49):
Yeah, but it does feel.
Yeah, I would like to hearsomeone else address this
question because oh, yeah, no,these questions all go back.
So there's a.
They're kind of all over theplace.
That's the whole whole point ofit.
Speaker 1 (39:06):
Yeah, sorry, yeah yeah, the questions are meant to
be all over.
Yes, they're pulled from amillion different places.
We spend a lot of time findingcanadian questions right across
the country, so these arequestions canadians are asking,
right?
Not all of them are questionsthat everybody likes.
Speaker 2 (39:23):
No, that's true, but we can do at least one more here
.
Speaker 1 (39:25):
Okay, we got one more .
Speaker 2 (39:27):
So who do you think Canada can seek out as other
trade partners if therelationship with the USA
continues down the same path?
It's on.
Speaker 4 (39:36):
So ourselves is what I would say.
You know, the last two yearsthat I was working, before this
election, I was executivedirector of a nonprofit called
Nourish Nova Scotia, and one ofthe projects that I got to work
on there was the establishmentof something called the Halifax
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Regional Food Hub, which is, Iunderstand, like, currently
under development, but it's beenincorporated as a cooperative
and I understand that they'vehired their first, you know,
general manager or executivedirector, and the idea with that
food hub is to create a placewhere food producers, like
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farmers and food producers frommainland Nova Scotia, can drop
off their goods and then havethe food hub get those goods the
last mile to the back doors ofkitchens or, you know, the
loading docks of stores thatsell local wares, or non-profit
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organizations that constantly,you know need groceries and
don't want to be spendingsending their staff out shopping
, shopping with flyers orschools, or the Nova Scotia
Community College, and, and so Ithink there's so like I
appreciate the reaction, youknow, by Canadian, but we've
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really undervalued the power oflocal markets and circular
economies which allow our moneyto circulate in more, in a more
regional way, and so I'm I'mexcited to see the kind of
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community economic developmentpotential, that we can get some
more energy behind so that wecan be buying from ourselves.
You know, obviously that's notgoing to be a full.
That's not going to be a fulluh piece of the answer, but I, I
, I hope that it doesn't getlost no, you're right on par.
Speaker 1 (41:49):
A previous question we drew with another guest was
uh, was the interprovincial?
Speaker 3 (41:52):
trade and, yes, right , localizing.
Speaker 1 (41:54):
Yeah, so you're right on that same page of of yeah,
yeah so that, that's brilliantyeah, we're with that.
Speaker 2 (41:59):
all right, awesome, very much with that.
How many points did I get?
Take a break, I didn't count.
Speaker 1 (42:06):
So we didn't count the last one.
Speaker 4 (42:07):
We were just going to tally them up at the end the
points really don't matter.
Speaker 3 (42:11):
Okay, so I think you're right on par pretty well
with the last guess.
Speaker 4 (42:14):
So it doesn't matter one way or another.
Didn't speak too long, theywere six very well-answered
questions.
Speaker 1 (42:19):
They were very, and I have solace in that Not just
well-answered, but like Honest,Well, very honest but, also
unique.
Speaker 2 (42:26):
Like answers that you know, sometimes you get people
who pick a certain lane oncertain topics and these were
some ones that were it was.
You know you offered somethings that I had not heard
before, so Cool, that's reallygood.
Speaker 4 (42:38):
Thanks, good thing to consider, so just wrapping up
now we're all done the hardpart's over the hard part's over
All right, now I might havethat pint.
Speaker 2 (42:47):
Yeah, you said you were a red fan.
Speaker 4 (42:49):
I do like a red.
Okay, I do like a red, any,beer in particular.
Speaker 1 (42:52):
You like you know, of a Nova Scotia.
Speaker 4 (42:54):
I mean, I've had the Very popular choice.
Speaker 2 (42:58):
Great, fantastic, yeah, one of the best.
Speaker 1 (43:00):
Yeah, so cheers to you.
Speaker 2 (43:02):
Thank you, oh sorry.
Speaker 1 (43:03):
She gets a wrap up.
You get a wrap up.
I'm so sorry.
Anything you'd like to sayabout folks voting for you in
this election?
Yeah, this is your time to help.
Yeah.
Speaker 4 (43:12):
I mean, I guess I just want people to remember
that in Halifax we hadndpmembers of parliament for a full
, you know, 18 years, right upuntil the trudeau government.
Um.
So, uh, alexa mcdonough famousiconic.
Speaker 2 (43:31):
And megan leslie, um megan was great megan was so
great, megan was so great Ithink she actually won most
popular mp one year, orsomething like that and she won
like best rookie MP.
Speaker 4 (43:42):
Yeah, she won all kinds of things.
No, she was fantastic and youknow Megan and Alexa both were
really amazing representativesof Halifax and they were also
really importantparliamentarians for speaking to
issues and, you know,championing causes, and so I
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hope people remember that thisis not just a competition for
who is the prime minister, butit's like who's going to speak
for your community, who's goingto use their voice in parliament
, who can we elect that we'll beable to reach out to, that
we'll be able to work with um.
It's a it's a long relationshipbetween that person and and
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halifax, and and I hope thatpeople will be excited as I am,
um to have me step into theirshoes and and try to really play
that role.
So Wonderful.
Speaker 1 (44:43):
Well, cheers to you, lisa.
Cheers to you.
Yeah, thank you.
Speaker 2 (44:45):
Good luck on the campaign.
Speaker 1 (44:47):
I know it's not easy, it's tough.
Speaker 4 (44:49):
I appreciate it.
Nice to meet you both.
Speaker 1 (44:51):
Yes, absolutely, Take care.
Well, unfortunately, Matt, ituh, it appears that Mark
Boudreau can't be here.
I know you and I both madeample attempts in every way and
platform possible.
Maybe just explain a little bit.
Speaker 2 (45:10):
Yeah, I mean we kind of felt that the show was going
to be incomplete without havinga conservative candidate here.
I know I probably text himalmost every day, at least every
second day.
I know I probably text himalmost every day, at least every
second day.
We did try to move around theschedule a little bit but it
looks like I couldn't make thetime to come over here to record
with us.
But we have two really greatcandidates that gave us some
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great answers.
Speaker 1 (45:33):
Absolutely Right.
I appreciate the time of boththe Liberal and the NDP party.
I feel, matt, like we reallygot some honest answers.
The NDP party I feel, matt,like we really got some honest
answers.
I felt there was a you know, Ithink you said something really
really great about the NDP andthe tremendous amount of heart.
Yeah, yeah.
Speaker 2 (45:52):
Yeah, I think.
That's, I think, the two thingsthat you take away.
I mean, neither is really goodanswers in terms of like good or
bad, but I think our liberalcandidate gave us some really
intelligent, likemind-thoughtful answers, and our
NDP candidate gave us somereally heartfelt, passionate
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answers Absolutely so verydifferent, but whatever
resonates with the listeners, Ithink you're going to get two
very good answers from thosepeople.
Speaker 1 (46:22):
Yeah, no, I couldn't agree more, matt.
So I guess, if you're stilllistening at this point, I
sincerely hope you get up thereand vote and help.
Support, maybe encourage afriend to vote, a neighbor,
someone who says they don't vote, they don't get into politics,
twist their arm and say you know, it's a really good time to
start.
Speaker 2 (46:36):
Yeah, whoever you vote for, just get out there and
exercise that vote.
Speaker 1 (46:40):
Well, Matt, cheers to your brother on another fun,
successful bucket of democracy.
Cheers On to the next one, manCheers.
Hello listeners and welcome to this special edition
of Afternoon Pint.
Today we'll be speaking withcandidates for the federal
running of Halifax, Nova Scotia,Canada.
Speaker 2 (00:10):
Yes, our hometown.
We're bringing back the bucketof democracy for a second time
to pull random questions and getto know our candidates a little
bit better.
We started this process whenthe by-election was called and
this is the only group thatwe'll be speaking to before the
2025 election.
Speaker 1 (00:28):
Without further ado, grab your pints and your popcorn
as we talk on some of Canada'sbiggest issues, enjoy.
Welcome to the Afternoon Pint.
Who are we here with?
Speaker 3 (00:44):
We are here with Shannon Miedema, the Liberal
candidate for the Halifax Ridingfor the federal election.
Cheers.
Speaker 1 (00:49):
Shannon Cheers, Cheers, Shannon.
So we got a few questions foryou before we get into our big
bucket of democracy.
Speaker 3 (00:54):
Sounds great.
Speaker 2 (00:55):
Let's go Alright.
So let's start off with yourroad into politics.
What's your story?
Tell us about where you camefrom and why you're coming into
politics.
Speaker 3 (01:02):
Yeah, I'm new into politics and I never thought I'd
grow up to be a politician, soI'll start with that.
I have been working for thecity for the last 15 years.
I'm the director of environmentand climate change there, so
working really closely withcommunities across the Halifax
regional municipality, acrosslevels of government, with the
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private sector, industry, thepublic, academics, ngos, to
really try and drive positivechange for our community.
And I've hung out with a lot ofpoliticians over the years and
started to kind of think aboutpolitics in the fall as a way
that I could scale my impact anddo even more good for our city
that I love so much.
(01:42):
So started to have someconversations back then.
And, yeah, here I am.
Speaker 2 (01:48):
Awesome, yeah, so I guess that's a really good segue
into the next question of like.
So what are some majorobjectives that Haligonians need
representation for on a federallevel?
Speaker 3 (02:00):
Well, I think Haligonians need representation
across, whatever their interestsand concerns and values are,
and from my perspective, therole of a member of parliament
is to do that, is to listen andreflect and advocate and be a
strong voice for Halifax at thegovernment table Right.
And I've been able to do thatin a smaller way in the job that
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I've had here in Halifax.
I get to champion the greatwork and the great people of
Halifax across the country.
I've done it internationallyand it's one of my absolute
favorite things to do and Ithink I could do a great job for
us in Ottawa.
Speaker 2 (02:35):
Awesome, oh, I like that.
And what values do you thinkthat you and your party, like
party leader, align with themost?
So, now that we know MarkCarney is the Liberal leader, so
, yeah, what do you think thatyou guys align the most on?
Speaker 3 (02:50):
Yeah.
So, because I was kind ofconsidering this, I came to the
Liberal Party thoughtfully andhave been pleased with what I've
seen the party do over the lastnumber of years on things I
really care about, like strongclimate policy, like actual
progress on truth andreconciliation.
You know social progress, youknow equity, prioritizing
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vulnerability while stillfocusing on economy and other
important issues, and so, yeah,I think it's the party that most
closely aligns with my valuesand, uh, yeah, okay, all right.
Speaker 2 (03:28):
So why should we vote for Shannon Well?
Speaker 3 (03:34):
what we've been hearing at the door is because
we were in a by-election sinceMarch.
Speaker 2 (03:38):
The 2nd you get a longer election process.
That's right.
Speaker 3 (03:42):
We had a three-week head start here in Halifax
compared to the rest of thecountry, and so it's been a
great education to actually hearwhat is top of mind for folks
and what are we hearing most?
And really what we're hearingalmost every door is fear and
concern and sorrow for what'shappening between the Canada-US
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relationship and really somerelief and some optimism that
Carney is now at the helm of theLiberal Party and thinking that
that might be a strong choicefor Canada in navigating Trump
and tariffs and figuring out howto build a resilient economy
that's less intertwined with ourAmerican counterpart.
I've been pleased with thestrong approach that the party's
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taken so far and the thingsthat they're rolling out kind of
every day or so, really tryingto figure out how to number one,
try and stop the tariffs in thefirst place.
Number two, you know, haveretaliatory tariffs and then
take that money and use it tohelp people right now that are
getting impacted.
And number three, like let'snot ever let this happen again.
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Let's not be asleep at the wheel.
Let's find new markets and newways of running our country.
Speaker 2 (04:53):
No, that's great.
And last, thing, I just want togive you an opportunity to like
tell people about you, likewhere are you from?
Let people know who you are as,like, a person, not just the
politician.
Speaker 3 (05:04):
Yeah, for sure.
Thanks, and I actually findthat the hardest question to
answer.
Funny enough, letting people in.
But no, I grew up in Ottawa andI am the oldest of three
siblings.
I did my undergrad at Queen'sUniversity.
Environment's always been mylongstanding passion, so I did
environmental science there andI came to Halifax to go to
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Dalhousie to do my master's.
My husband now husband came todo law school at Dalhousie and
we fell in love with Halifax.
I'm a quarter Newfoundlander.
My grandmother was born andraised in Newfoundland, so I
kind of feel, yeah, I'm not likelike the 100% come from away
maybe.
Also, I've been here for, yeah,23 years and yeah, we used to
(05:47):
travel out east every couple ofsummers and visit our relatives
in Newfoundland.
I love this part of the country.
I love Atlantic Canada and,having worked for the city, you
know I just I love, I love thecommunity, I love the history, I
love that we're a port city, Ilove that we have all these
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things going on and we're justthe right size.
You know we have.
You'll always see someone youknow at the market or at a
concert, but you don't knoweverybody.
Right, it's like the perfectsize, perfect size for me.
So, yeah, my husband and Idecided to make our lives here.
We have three kids that we'reraising.
They're 14, 12, and 8.
So busy, busy, busy.
The husband is a lawyer, heowns his own law firm and, yeah,
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we love camping, everythingoutdoors.
We have a four-year-old bordercollie that keeps us on our toes
and yeah, just love travelingand, yeah, it's been really
great.
Yeah, so the kids are bluenosers.
Speaker 1 (06:47):
Sounds like you've got a busy busy life.
Speaker 3 (06:49):
Yeah, a great but busy life.
Speaker 2 (06:53):
I've always said that when someone leaves their home
and chooses to make my hometheir home, that's what bigger
compliment can you possibly get?
Speaker 3 (06:58):
Well, that's what I think so great yeah.
Speaker 2 (07:01):
So all right.
So I think that's a good littlekind of intro to who you are,
and I think what's best foranyone who's listening to the
show is we move right into thebucket of democracy.
Anyone who has listened to ourmayor debate quote unquote
debate show.
Speaker 1 (07:18):
So yeah, so to the listener.
Right now we have a bucket ofdemocracy too, very crudely
written in black marker here andit says Fed MP edition at the
bottom.
So this is an assortment ofrandom questions that are very
relevant right now, in this time.
If you're voting in the nextelection, you might be
interested in some of theanswers we're about to pull here
, so we're going to pull them atrandom.
(07:39):
Question number one.
Oh, and you get points yeah.
Speaker 3 (07:44):
Oh my gosh, are you judging me on this?
Well, I mean.
Nobody told me that.
Speaker 2 (07:50):
Have you ever watched Whose Line Is it?
Anyway, we award points, butthey don't really count.
Yeah, we just gotta give randompoints.
Speaker 1 (07:57):
Alright, and we call you out if you don't answer the
question.
But, other than that we'rereally nice.
Okay, given that some countriesown their natural resources,
which can result in the wealthof their nation, would you
support the government gettinginvolved with owning and selling
its resources?
I can reread that if I readthat weird.
Speaker 3 (08:22):
No, I think I got it.
I was just kind of questioningwhether we do or don't own our
resources right now, unless Imisunderstood the question.
Speaker 1 (08:31):
Yeah, I guess it's really more.
This is more of a tradequestion, matt.
Speaker 2 (08:34):
It's a yeah, I would say like the intention of when
we were talking to people, sowhen we were talking well and
also like actually tuning, likethe government act because we
have businesses that go in andmine and own those resources
essentially and sell them off.
Yeah, so it would be more likecanada is now the oil company
type of thing.
Speaker 3 (08:53):
So, or whatever what I will say is that canada has
long been an export economy andwe have been blessed with a
bounty of natural resources, andI think that they get used and
profited from in different ways.
I think at this time that we'rein right now, it's really
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important for us to be thinkingof ways to grow our export
economy in a fashion thatdoesn't set us back on other
priorities.
So I would like to see us focuson wind resource.
You know, halifax, nova Scotia,has a massive offshore wind
resource and a great onshorewind resource, and I really
think that that's something thatwe can.
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We can use for our own benefit.
We can also grow our exporteconomy on that.
There's lots of work going onthere now.
There's the potential for it toactually create green hydrogen
market, and that's somethingthat a lot of people are talking
about in Europe and Canada andeverywhere and we can be leaders
in this space and we can growkind of an entire sector with
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good jobs and good money inthings like that.
I don't presume to know aboutmineral rights in any great
detail, so I'm not going tocomment on that.
Speaker 2 (10:06):
No, that's fair.
That's fair.
Yeah, I'll give you the point.
Yeah, there you go we get thepoint Okay, one point.
Speaker 4 (10:11):
Okay, fine, I'll try harder next time.
Speaker 3 (10:14):
Oh, you only get one point.
You only get one point or youdon't get the point.
I was like is max five.
Yeah, it's thumbs up, though nono, we've given half points
full points or no points.
Speaker 1 (10:24):
Okay, oh, we didn't give a half point.
You're right, we've given halfpoints.
We already gave him the full.
So there you go.
Speaker 2 (10:30):
Can't take it back now.
So what policies can agovernment implement to have the
house function in a more kindmanner?
As we know, it can be a bitchaotic and not so kind.
Speaker 3 (10:44):
That's a really great question.
I do know that there are ethics, written ethics things that
people abide to, Even in acampaign.
You have to sign on that you'regoing to abide by the campaign
rules as a candidate, and Ithink that's really important.
Right Like this is not a timeto be name calling and acting
like bullies and acting likechildren.
(11:05):
We really need to be adultshere, we need to be professional
and we need to haveconstructive and collaborative
conversation.
Uh I I.
If there are any ways for thehouse to increase its ability to
enforce that level ofexpectation and respect, I think
that would be wonderful.
I think we definitely need tochange the tune.
Speaker 1 (11:28):
Point awarded.
Yeah, I like it.
Oh, it's your turn.
Keep going, keep moving alonghere, see how many points you
can get.
Speaker 3 (11:34):
Okay, competition, I love it.
Speaker 1 (11:36):
All right.
What does responsibleimmigration look like to you?
Speaker 3 (11:43):
Yeah, good one.
I think responsible immigrationis immigration into our country
in a way that enables thepeople coming in to thrive.
So they need housing, they needinfrastructure, they need
education, they need jobs, whilenot disadvantaging the people
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that are here.
Right, it's just a balancedconsideration.
And you know we need newcomers,we need immigrants.
I think they add to what it isto be Canadian.
I think they add to the richfabric of Canada.
We are wonderfullymulticultural and I think that
you know it always helps.
(12:25):
I think I look at my childrenand they don't even see
diversity in the way that we didin my generation or let alone
in my parents' generation.
Like, I think it's wonderfulwhat's happening in that respect
.
It's just, we need to make surethat.
You know.
We want everybody to thrive asCanadians, regardless of whether
they're new or have been herefor generations.
Speaker 1 (12:44):
You happy with that one.
I think it's really good.
All right, perfect, let's getgoing.
Speaker 2 (12:48):
That kind of goes back to the whole compliment
that I say when someone choosesmy home to be their home.
It's the ultimate complimentthere you go Love it All right.
So next one here is shouldhealth care be fully taken over
by the federal government orit'll be left for the provinces
to manage?
Speaker 3 (13:06):
That's a tricky one.
I would say that one of thethings that's the hardest to
manage in Canada which is alsopart of the beauty of Canada is
that we have jurisdictionaldivide across levels of
government on really importantissues and often a shared
responsibility or shared mandate.
It happens in healthcare, ithappens in housing, it happens
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in environment.
It happens across a lot ofconsiderations, and I think what
we need is really good, strong,clear understanding of whose
role and responsibility what isand to make sure that the
funding gets where it needs tobe.
And I do think you know, attimes it's important for the
federal government to step in ifthere's something of national
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import that really needs to bethat all provinces and
territories need to get on boardwith.
I think that that is animportant role for the federal
government.
I think that the Liberal Partyhas done that in some instances
recently.
Speaker 2 (14:04):
If you can speak a little bit further on that.
Deeper, because do you thinkthat we could almost see a more
fair distribution of doctorsthroughout the country if the
feds just took that over?
Speaker 3 (14:18):
I don't know what the answer is on.
Speaker 4 (14:19):
that.
That's fair, that's a fineanswer.
Speaker 3 (14:22):
I don't know how that would play out.
I don't think that would helpthe relationship between the
federal government and theprovinces and territories,
because of that jurisdictionaldivide.
I do think we need to keepfinding solutions to deal with
the major healthcare issues thatwe have here.
Speaker 2 (14:38):
That's fair.
That's a fair answer.
That's a real tough question.
That's a real tough question.
That's a very tough question.
Yeah, very hard question.
Speaker 1 (14:44):
No, we like the questions with no winning answer
.
Speaker 4 (14:48):
They're the fun ones to answer yeah.
Speaker 1 (14:49):
Okay, this question here where do you stand on
medical assisted death or MAID?
Speaker 3 (14:57):
Where do I stand on it?
Personally, I think it's animportant piece of the progress
that we're making in health care.
I've heard lots of differentindividual stories and I think
it's really important.
It's also needing reallycareful policy so that it
doesn't get misused ormisdirected.
Speaker 2 (15:29):
And I would say we're still in really early stage of
having this ability and thislegislation and it needs a lot
of people kind of at the tablemaking sure that it works for
everybody.
No, that's good, that was quick, that was quick.
Speaker 3 (15:37):
Point.
Yeah, it's good, as long as youknow they're going to get
points if they answer them.
I know I'm going to be sad if Idon't get 100%.
You guys, you're quite thekeener.
Speaker 1 (15:42):
You should have seen how slow the mayors were.
Oh my gosh, you're way ahead ofthem.
Speaker 2 (15:45):
Way ahead.
Yeah, the mayors answer likefour or five questions.
Speaker 1 (15:48):
Except for Zoran.
Speaker 2 (15:49):
Oh, he went through it pretty quick.
He was a machine.
Speaker 1 (15:52):
Okay.
Will your government helpremove and expedite the barriers
with interprovincial trading?
Say yes, well, yes, yes.
I can say that because it'salready been said also by Prime.
Speaker 3 (16:07):
Minister Carney.
And yeah, I just keep wonderingwhy we haven't done it sooner.
But I think that's kind of whata lot of Canadians are
reflecting on right now.
You know, we got a little bitasleep at the wheel, reliant on
our southern partner, and now weunderstand what that can do.
Speaker 1 (16:22):
There is another side of it, though, that it could
choke out some smaller localbusinesses.
Now, I've heard this.
I don't know if this is true ornot.
Have you heard about that?
Do you have concerns there?
Speaker 3 (16:32):
Well, I've spoken to several small medium businesses
and different industries and Ihaven't heard anything negative
about the idea.
All all I've heard is likewe've been asking for this
forever.
We really want this.
We feel positive about it.
Now, of course, it will dependon how this happens, like what
the details are, but I think wehave a great opportunity.
Speaker 4 (16:51):
Yeah.
Speaker 1 (16:52):
Love it, quick point.
There you go.
Speaker 2 (16:54):
No, that's good, All right.
So this is a you question.
So, if you so, shannon, theperson gets elected.
What is the first cause thatyou want to fight for, to
implement?
Speaker 3 (17:07):
The first cause.
Speaker 2 (17:09):
Yeah, like what's near and dear to your heart,
that you're going to go in thereand you're going to be like,
listen, prime Minister Carney,this is what I want.
You know I got a strong mandateand this is what I want for my
people.
Speaker 3 (17:19):
So, outside of navigating what is critical to
deal with first, like Trump,tariffs, economy, etc.
Obviously my passion issue isclimate and environment and
always has been and will alwaysbe.
And it's funny because workingfor the city, trying to drive
climate action, try to betterprepare our communities for what
we saw in 2023, like floods andhurricanes and fires, like you
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know.
We need to be resilient tothose things, to reduce loss in
those situations and be able torebound as quickly as possible,
and that takes.
That actually touches on socialconsiderations, economic
considerations, you know, andthe plan we brought forward is
good for people, good for theeconomy and good for the
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environment.
And I think that theconversation around climate
really is shifting to show thatif we do climate action in the
right way, we're actuallysupporting all these other key
issues.
We have amazing economicdevelopment opportunities.
If we act on climate, we canprevent loss, like we're seeing
in the insurance industry whichyou well know with extreme
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weather events.
Right Like this is, it'sactually it has to be done, and
I think we can do it in a way,as we're like trying to solve
these other issues like theTrump tariffs, we can think
about ways to progress on otherkey issues in Canada, and I'm
really passionate about that.
I think that there's lots ofgreat conversations we could
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have about that.
That would be my first one.
Speaker 1 (18:48):
Okay, well, you did a perfect job.
That is all we have time for inour questions round today.
Just one wrap-up question,derek.
Speaker 2 (18:56):
Well, basically, as a kind of a wrap-up, I want to
give you just a minute or two tojust whatever you want to say
your message.
Last thing to kind of pitchyour last pitch for Shannon,
yeah that's even harder thanthese questions.
Speaker 1 (19:09):
I'm so sorry.
Speaker 3 (19:11):
No, I mean to everybody listening.
I hope that you consider yourvote carefully.
It's it's a very importantelection probably the most
important election in Canada inall of our generations, and
getting out to vote is soimportant.
To exercise your right to vote.
We are a democracy.
We should not take that forgranted, and I really hope to
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earn all of your support as weprogress in this campaign.
Election day is April 28th, butyou can actually vote any day
on Quimple Road, at theelections office or the advance
polls open on the 18th of April.
Speaker 2 (19:46):
Awesome.
And before we cheers, why don'tyou let the people know what
beer you're drinking?
Speaker 3 (19:53):
Oh, I'm drinking the Dirty Blonde Nine Locks just
like the color of my hair.
Speaker 2 (19:57):
Well, cheers to that.
Good luck in your campaign.
We really appreciate this thankyou so much cheers cheers, and
who are we?
Speaker 4 (20:16):
here with I'm lisa ro .
I'm the NDP candidate inHalifax.
Speaker 1 (20:22):
Pleasure to meet you.
Yeah, nice to meet you.
Speaker 4 (20:23):
It's great to be here with you All right.
Speaker 1 (20:25):
So welcome to our show.
Here we have our bucket ofdemocracy.
We're going to dive into thatin a minute, but first we're
just going to go through a fewquestions that we're asking
everyone today.
Okay, so question number oneyour road into politics.
What's your story?
Speaker 4 (20:42):
Oh, I'm going to need to condense this.
Speaker 1 (20:46):
Okay.
Speaker 4 (20:54):
But I'll share that.
I did the campaign school forwomen back in 2011.
And at that point I wasactually watching a lot of
municipal politics in Halifaxand that was back in Peter
Kelly's time and I was inspiredby the leadership of Jennifer
Watts, who at that point was amunicipal councillor and she was
just asking good questions andkind of being responsible.
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And I was also at that pointhome, having had my second kid
in a couple of years and I hadbeen a journalist, and I was
feeling like maybe I had gonedown that career path far enough
.
So, yeah, I did the CampaignSchool for Women in 2011.
That eventually resulted in mesupporting Jennifer in her 2012
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municipal campaign Jennifer inher 2012 municipal campaign.
I did slowly wean myself off ofjournalism and in 2016, I was
asked and agreed to run for theNDP in Halifax Needham.
Speaker 2 (21:52):
Fascinating.
I remember that, yes.
Speaker 1 (21:54):
Okay, so question number two what are some major
objectives that haligonians needrepresentation for on a federal
level?
Speaker 4 (22:02):
I mean, for me, um, housing is just huge, um, it
affects so many people and youknow, we just saw the opening of
the first new co-op building ofany size on maitland street in
halifax and I've been lucky tochat with, I think, four
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different households now thatare in that building and it's so
transformative.
The one young couple I talkedwith had been moving every two
years pretty consistently,either because of run eviction
or because of rent know sales ofthe places that they were
renting and just the sense forthem that they can now settle
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into their life without needingto anticipate finding another
home in a couple of years is sohuge, really determined and
consistent focus on increasingthe housing options for people
that are affordable and that are, you know, to a much greater
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proportion in the public sphereor in the nonprofit sphere,
where you know the greatestprofit isn't always going to be
the motivation for the decisionof the folks who own the
property.
Speaker 1 (23:26):
Excellent, okay, great answer.
We can't give a point for thatone.
Speaker 2 (23:29):
Oh, that's okay.
Speaker 1 (23:31):
We're giving points away soon.
We're close, the points get infrom the bucket.
Still a great answer.
Okay.
So next question what values doyou think you and your party
leader align with the most?
Speaker 4 (23:45):
I'm sorry, I don't know if I understand the
question.
Do you mean, in which values doI share?
Maybe pick a value you reallyidentify with?
Jagmeet talk at you know, onmore occasions than most folks,
um, about how he just feelsdeeply that we're all connected.
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So, and and that for me reallyresonates in the way I I put it
in a campaign video that youmight've seen is we're all
better off when we're all betteroff, like my wellbeing is not
disconnected from the well-beingof everyone else in my
community, and that is true onso many different levels and
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it's actually really shown to betrue in all kinds of research.
You know, the more disconnectedwe feel, that's not good for
our health.
There's no individual problemsolving our ways out of the
housing crisis or the climatecrisis and, in fact, connecting
with each other and really likeleaning in on that sense of
(24:48):
connection is part of findingthe pathway out of the
challenges that we face.
So, yeah, that's definitely onewhere I feel like I'm very much
in alignment with him and Ifeel like that aligns with
aligns with broader socialdemocratic principles and
priorities.
Speaker 1 (25:06):
Okay, so we're going to circle around the back a
little bit here, but just tellus a little bit more about where
you're from.
Speaker 4 (25:11):
Yeah, so I actually grew up on the west coast of
Newfoundland.
Speaker 1 (25:16):
Oh, another Newfoundlander, Another
Newfoundlander.
How am I going to vote?
Speaker 4 (25:22):
No, so I grew up in Corner Brook.
My parents had met in LabradorCity in the 1960s.
They got married here inHalifax in the late 1960s and
then I was born in Ottawa, butwe moved to Newfoundland, which
is where my dad is originallyfrom, in 1975.
1975, I was two, and so I livedin Corner Brook until I was 18,
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and then I came to Halifax,came to Dowell, very much
wanting to be in a bigger placethan the place where I grew up,
and so Halifax was the choice,pretty obviously.
Yeah, and so that, and sothat's where I'm from, and I was
away for six years from 1995until 2001.
(26:08):
I lived for about two years inGuatemala oh cool, that's very
cool.
About two years in Toronto,yeah.
Speaker 2 (26:18):
Not as cool as Guadalajara, not as cool, but I
learned some stuff.
Speaker 4 (26:21):
I got to experience the big city and then about two
years kind of split betweenNewfoundland and other places
and then I very intentionallycame back in 2001.
Brilliant.
Speaker 1 (26:31):
Okay, so last question before we dive into the
bucket why should folks votefor Lisa?
Speaker 4 (26:38):
I mean, I feel like I have built a lot of
relationships and with therelationships comes a lot of
knowledge about Halifax overmore than 10 years.
So I was five years serving asthe MLA for Halifax, Needham,
but for a number of years beforethat I was briefly executive
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director at Vieth House.
Before that I was part-timefacilitator of a project called
the North End Community Circleand, of course, before that I
was a journalist working forInformation Morning at CBC Radio
.
So I just have put a lot of timein learning about the community
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and I have a lot ofrelationships that I can call on
when I'm not certain about whatthe right path is.
Or is this a cause that I wantto put a lot of my time behind?
I've got a lot of folks in thecommunity that I can check in
with to like get a coupledifferent reads on a situation
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and then figure out like how canI be helpful?
Because that's kind of whatdrives me, is I like to be
helpful, I like to play apositive role to resolve issues
or make life better for all ofus collectively.
Speaker 1 (28:03):
That's fantastic.
Well, Matt, I guess it's timewe dive into the bucket.
Speaker 2 (28:09):
It's the bucket of democracy.
Time you did the dun-dun-dun.
Speaker 1 (28:14):
Oh, dun-dun-dun.
I have sound effects on thisboard.
Speaker 2 (28:18):
Want to try one.
Speaker 1 (28:19):
Nope, I don't know the order of them.
Sorry, let's just continue.
That's why I said don't, butanyway, it's all good.
Speaker 2 (28:27):
Okay, so this is basically what we do, is we give
you 10 minutes.
We're going to answer as manyquestions as you can answer.
Speaker 4 (28:32):
Oh my gosh, okay.
So I should be fast becauseanswers yeah, yeah.
Speaker 2 (28:43):
Just answer them honestly, don't give an
incomplete answer.
Okay, you want people to knowyour well-thought answers, right
?
Speaker 1 (28:48):
You can get big points or little points.
Not all points are createdequal, all right.
Speaker 2 (28:56):
All right, you tell me when we're ready to go, Ready
to rock Matt, All right, so allright.
Question number one Ready to go, Ready to rock Matt, All right.
So all right.
Question number one In youropinion, what is the income
dollar amount that should beconsidered in the highest
threshold and what percentage oftax should that be?
So like when you think abouttax brackets, where should that
be now in terms of householdincome, that highest tax bracket
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, and what should be?
What do you think we should betaxed at that highest tax
bracket?
Speaker 4 (29:36):
Oh, my goodness.
I mean my immediate thought isthat I think we need to add
another tax bracket above thetop one and then tax that one
more.
I think maybe the highest one,does the highest one, start at a
hundred or at a hundred, and II don't.
I don't actually know exactly.
Speaker 2 (29:48):
It's a hundred and the highest tax is 126 or 127 or
something like that.
I think it's what it is.
Yes, okay.
Speaker 4 (29:54):
Yeah, so.
So my immediate thought is likeI think we probably need
another one above that and, andyou know, go harder on that All
right.
Speaker 2 (30:06):
All right, that is an answer and that is a point we
give.
Speaker 1 (30:08):
A point Sounds good, okay, next question Should the
federal government prioritize apipeline feeding into Nova
Scotia, and why or why not?
Speaker 4 (30:19):
Yeah, I mean I think I'm more sold on the idea that
actually I saw Jagmeet talkingabout, in the immediate
aftermath of Trump's first setof threats, who can keep track,
which is of an east-westelectricity grid?
(30:39):
Oh okay, electricity grid Umyeah, because we know that you
know a lot of the um.
Currently a lot of likehydroelectric energy flows South
um into the United States andthat is the low lowest carbon
electricity um that we have umavailable to us easily um or at
(31:01):
least for baseload, in additionto, you know, solar and wind.
And we haven't gotten theAtlantic loop done.
But maybe if this was part ofmore of a nation building
project where it's not sodependent on just like one
region coming together butactually the whole country
coming together, I can get moreexcited about that.
(31:22):
The pipeline I've heard a lotof different things about the
economics and I'm not convinced.
Speaker 2 (31:31):
Okay, no, that's fair , that's an answer.
And you know what?
I never actually heard aboutthis east to west energy grid
and I actually don't hate thatidea.
I want to read more about that.
Speaker 1 (31:36):
I like different ideas Awesome, yeah, I like it,
and I actually don't hate thatidea.
I want to read more about that.
I like different ideas.
Awesome, yeah, I like it.
Let's go.
Speaker 2 (31:42):
Whoops, there you go throwing things around.
No bonus points now.
Speaker 1 (31:45):
You're throwing questions out of the bucket.
Speaker 2 (31:47):
All right.
So what would your government'sif you formed government,
obviously what would yourgovernment's anti-racism
strategy be?
Speaker 4 (31:54):
Whew, wow, that does not seem like a short question.
That does not seem like ananswer that I could give a short
answer to.
I will say that part of whatmakes the NDP special is our
intentional diversification ofour own caucus, and you know,
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obviously, like Jagmeet Singh isthe only racialized national
leader we've always had.
But also if you look across thecountry at our candidates and
also at our members ofparliament, where the NDP is
more diverse than the otherparties, and so for me, that's
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really a thing that you have towork on with people.
It's not, you know, lisaRoberts' idea of you know how do
you attack or you know, addressracism, but certainly thinking
about it in terms of economicsfor me is really important
because when you think about howCanada was settled and how we
got to our present day, therewere a lot of moments along the
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way when either racializedpeople or indigenous people were
disadvantaged, were exploited,were left out.
You know, when you think aboutthe particular ways that Nova
Scotia was settled in terms ofwho got land grants and who
didn't, and you know who gotsecure title and who didn't, and
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so there's a lot of economicyeah, economic redress that
needs to happen.
I've been really excited aboutthe organizing efforts,
particularly amongst the AfricanNova Scotian community, around
community land trusts, which isa neat way of recognizing that
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community economic developmentcan happen and ownership of
property can happen in a waythat benefits community in the
long run as well as theindividuals, which is much more,
I guess, aligned with my valuesthan seeing property and the
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fact that you end up with alittle piece of Mi'kma'ki and
then you end up with all thebenefit of the increasing
property values.
And how?
Because you built the land.
Oh no, you didn't build theland.
You know like houses andbuildings actually fall.
You know they're like any otherthing that is built.
(34:38):
They depreciate over time andyet their value keeps going up
and up, and that's because ofthe land right and so for me, um
yeah, thinking about how do we,how do we redistribute land, or
or reimagine how we treat landum is is pretty fundamental well
, yeah, that's a tough question,but I think you gave us a real,
(34:59):
a real necessary first step,that's.
Speaker 2 (35:01):
That's a good answer too, yeah, really good answer
and I also like the fact thatbecause, like I had this
discussion with my uh, uh, withmy wife on the weekend that you
can't necessarily legislatepeople into not being racist,
right, you have to just keepeducating right and in, like you
said, like lead by example yeah, yeah um, okay, uh,
(35:22):
transgendered categories insports seem to have many
different points of view.
Uh, how do you feel sportorganizations should handle this
sensitive topic?
Speaker 4 (35:32):
oh, my goodness, um, so first of all well, maybe,
maybe this will just be my wholeanswer I I sort of don't accept
the premise of the question inthat, really, this is a
non-issue or like such avanishingly small issue that has
gotten a huge amount ofattention because men want to
(36:00):
use it to divide us.
And when you talk to women whoare involved in sport, they're
like we've got a lot of issues,you know, equal pay, equal
playing time, equal mediaprofile, like equal access to
coaching resources, like thereare so many issues for women in
(36:22):
sport.
This is not one.
This is not one.
And I've gotten to a point inmy understanding of the
transphobia that we see where Ireally just reject that there is
any legitimate issue there.
I really just reject that thereis any legitimate issue there.
(36:43):
It is just being used as awedge and, yeah, I just full-on
reject it as transphobia.
Speaker 1 (36:50):
I'm giving you the point on that one.
Speaker 2 (36:52):
That's a great answer .
Yeah, good answer.
All right, your turn.
Speaker 1 (36:58):
All right.
Next question Canada isexperiencing a drug toxicity
crisis that is being fueled bysynthetic opioids like fentanyl.
What is one step we hope we cantake to remedy this?
So what's something we can doto help with the drug crisis in
Canada?
Speaker 4 (37:17):
Oh, my goodness, you know people die because we don't
have a safe supply of drugs,unsafe drugs with safer drugs.
(37:42):
That I don't feel like I'm thebest, the best prepared to
respond to.
But I know and, and you know,I'm just immediately my mind and
my heart, my eyes are justimmediately going to a funeral
that my partner and I attendedfor the kid of somebody we
(38:04):
worked with and I just know thatI wish he was alive.
Speaker 2 (38:09):
Yeah.
Speaker 4 (38:10):
I just wish he was alive.
Speaker 2 (38:11):
Yeah, so yeah, that's fair, that's fair and that's
the thing.
I think some of that stuffcould be rolled out a little bit
better.
I know some.
I watched something about someof the stuff in vancouver where
it was not um, uh, like thepromise that was made for these
houses to be safe was notdelivered.
Yeah, I, I don't know who'sresponsible for it, so it's not
(38:34):
like a dig in any particulargovernment at all.
I literally don't know who itjust I saw this and someone went
in and they wore like secretcameras and went in there and
these clean, safe places didn'tlook clean or safe.
Yeah, so yeah.
Speaker 4 (38:49):
Yeah, but it does feel.
Yeah, I would like to hearsomeone else address this
question because oh, yeah, no,these questions all go back.
So there's a.
They're kind of all over theplace.
That's the whole whole point ofit.
Speaker 1 (39:06):
Yeah, sorry, yeah yeah, the questions are meant to
be all over.
Yes, they're pulled from amillion different places.
We spend a lot of time findingcanadian questions right across
the country, so these arequestions canadians are asking,
right?
Not all of them are questionsthat everybody likes.
Speaker 2 (39:23):
No, that's true, but we can do at least one more here
.
Speaker 1 (39:25):
Okay, we got one more .
Speaker 2 (39:27):
So who do you think Canada can seek out as other
trade partners if therelationship with the USA
continues down the same path?
It's on.
Speaker 4 (39:36):
So ourselves is what I would say.
You know, the last two yearsthat I was working, before this
election, I was executivedirector of a nonprofit called
Nourish Nova Scotia, and one ofthe projects that I got to work
on there was the establishmentof something called the Halifax
(40:01):
Regional Food Hub, which is, Iunderstand, like, currently
under development, but it's beenincorporated as a cooperative
and I understand that they'vehired their first, you know,
general manager or executivedirector, and the idea with that
food hub is to create a placewhere food producers, like
(40:25):
farmers and food producers frommainland Nova Scotia, can drop
off their goods and then havethe food hub get those goods the
last mile to the back doors ofkitchens or, you know, the
loading docks of stores thatsell local wares, or non-profit
(40:46):
organizations that constantly,you know need groceries and
don't want to be spendingsending their staff out shopping
, shopping with flyers orschools, or the Nova Scotia
Community College, and, and so Ithink there's so like I
appreciate the reaction, youknow, by Canadian, but we've
(41:08):
really undervalued the power oflocal markets and circular
economies which allow our moneyto circulate in more, in a more
regional way, and so I'm I'mexcited to see the kind of
(41:29):
community economic developmentpotential, that we can get some
more energy behind so that wecan be buying from ourselves.
You know, obviously that's notgoing to be a full.
That's not going to be a fulluh piece of the answer, but I, I
, I hope that it doesn't getlost no, you're right on par.
Speaker 1 (41:49):
A previous question we drew with another guest was
uh, was the interprovincial?
Speaker 3 (41:52):
trade and, yes, right , localizing.
Speaker 1 (41:54):
Yeah, so you're right on that same page of of yeah,
yeah so that, that's brilliantyeah, we're with that.
Speaker 2 (41:59):
all right, awesome, very much with that.
How many points did I get?
Take a break, I didn't count.
Speaker 1 (42:06):
So we didn't count the last one.
Speaker 4 (42:07):
We were just going to tally them up at the end the
points really don't matter.
Speaker 3 (42:11):
Okay, so I think you're right on par pretty well
with the last guess.
Speaker 4 (42:14):
So it doesn't matter one way or another.
Didn't speak too long, theywere six very well-answered
questions.
Speaker 1 (42:19):
They were very, and I have solace in that Not just
well-answered, but like Honest,Well, very honest but, also
unique.
Speaker 2 (42:26):
Like answers that you know, sometimes you get people
who pick a certain lane oncertain topics and these were
some ones that were it was.
You know you offered somethings that I had not heard
before, so Cool, that's reallygood.
Speaker 4 (42:38):
Thanks, good thing to consider, so just wrapping up
now we're all done the hardpart's over the hard part's over
All right, now I might havethat pint.
Speaker 2 (42:47):
Yeah, you said you were a red fan.
Speaker 4 (42:49):
I do like a red.
Okay, I do like a red, any,beer in particular.
Speaker 1 (42:52):
You like you know, of a Nova Scotia.
Speaker 4 (42:54):
I mean, I've had the Very popular choice.
Speaker 2 (42:58):
Great, fantastic, yeah, one of the best.
Speaker 1 (43:00):
Yeah, so cheers to you.
Speaker 2 (43:02):
Thank you, oh sorry.
Speaker 1 (43:03):
She gets a wrap up.
You get a wrap up.
I'm so sorry.
Anything you'd like to sayabout folks voting for you in
this election?
Yeah, this is your time to help.
Yeah.
Speaker 4 (43:12):
I mean, I guess I just want people to remember
that in Halifax we hadndpmembers of parliament for a full
, you know, 18 years, right upuntil the trudeau government.
Um.
So, uh, alexa mcdonough famousiconic.
Speaker 2 (43:31):
And megan leslie, um megan was great megan was so
great, megan was so great Ithink she actually won most
popular mp one year, orsomething like that and she won
like best rookie MP.
Speaker 4 (43:42):
Yeah, she won all kinds of things.
No, she was fantastic and youknow Megan and Alexa both were
really amazing representativesof Halifax and they were also
really importantparliamentarians for speaking to
issues and, you know,championing causes, and so I
(44:05):
hope people remember that thisis not just a competition for
who is the prime minister, butit's like who's going to speak
for your community, who's goingto use their voice in parliament
, who can we elect that we'll beable to reach out to, that
we'll be able to work with um.
It's a it's a long relationshipbetween that person and and
(44:30):
halifax, and and I hope thatpeople will be excited as I am,
um to have me step into theirshoes and and try to really play
that role.
So Wonderful.
Speaker 1 (44:43):
Well, cheers to you, lisa.
Cheers to you.
Yeah, thank you.
Speaker 2 (44:45):
Good luck on the campaign.
Speaker 1 (44:47):
I know it's not easy, it's tough.
Speaker 4 (44:49):
I appreciate it.
Nice to meet you both.
Speaker 1 (44:51):
Yes, absolutely, Take care.
Well, unfortunately, Matt, ituh, it appears that Mark
Boudreau can't be here.
I know you and I both madeample attempts in every way and
platform possible.
Maybe just explain a little bit.
Speaker 2 (45:10):
Yeah, I mean we kind of felt that the show was going
to be incomplete without havinga conservative candidate here.
I know I probably text himalmost every day, at least every
second day.
I know I probably text himalmost every day, at least every
second day.
We did try to move around theschedule a little bit but it
looks like I couldn't make thetime to come over here to record
with us.
But we have two really greatcandidates that gave us some
(45:32):
great answers.
Speaker 1 (45:33):
Absolutely Right.
I appreciate the time of boththe Liberal and the NDP party.
I feel, matt, like we reallygot some honest answers.
The NDP party I feel, matt,like we really got some honest
answers.
I felt there was a you know, Ithink you said something really
really great about the NDP andthe tremendous amount of heart.
Yeah, yeah.
Speaker 2 (45:52):
Yeah, I think.
That's, I think, the two thingsthat you take away.
I mean, neither is really goodanswers in terms of like good or
bad, but I think our liberalcandidate gave us some really
intelligent, likemind-thoughtful answers, and our
NDP candidate gave us somereally heartfelt, passionate
(46:13):
answers Absolutely so verydifferent, but whatever
resonates with the listeners, Ithink you're going to get two
very good answers from thosepeople.
Speaker 1 (46:22):
Yeah, no, I couldn't agree more, matt.
So I guess, if you're stilllistening at this point, I
sincerely hope you get up thereand vote and help.
Support, maybe encourage afriend to vote, a neighbor,
someone who says they don't vote, they don't get into politics,
twist their arm and say you know, it's a really good time to
start.
Speaker 2 (46:36):
Yeah, whoever you vote for, just get out there and
exercise that vote.
Speaker 1 (46:40):
Well, Matt, cheers to your brother on another fun,
successful bucket of democracy.
Cheers On to the next one, manCheers.
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