October 15, 2025 • 30 mins
We sit down with Jed Sidwell, an Oklahoma State senior and lifelong cattle hand, to unpack why cattle keep climbing, how cheap corn props up feeders, and why headlines from metals to screw worm can jolt prices. Jed shares a clear, calm view of animal health risks, the reality of hedging when markets run, and why direct ties to consumers make this a rare window for ag.
• background in custom forage, feedyards, and show stock
• lessons from a Nashville brokerage and Series 3
• metals rally, inflation talk, and job market links
• corn’s signal for desk activity and risk appetite
• campus free-speech moments and processing public loss
• cattle highs, feeder margins, and timing hedges
• screw worm basics, treatment, and market psychology
• tools and protocols that keep health risks contained
• student podcast access and learning resources
• optimism about direct-to-consumer and ag education
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SPEAKER_01 (00:13):
Welcome back to the Ag Bull Podcast, Tommy
Grissaffi.
Well, we're gonna do something alittle different.
This summer, I don't know howmany of the Ag Bull Podcasts you
listen to, but we had a youngman by the name of Jed on, and
uh we did a vocal podcast.
The irony of that is Jed spent aton of his summer helping me
build my podcast studio inNashville, and we were supposed
(00:33):
to have lights on and camera andall this other stuff, but he had
to go back to college and wenever got to film it the way I
want to.
Well, would you believe that hisawesome college has a podcast
studio?
And I love promoting media, Ilove promoting people in
agriculture, so we're gonnabreak it down.
It's harvest, this be a greatepisode to listen to in the
combine, combining some corn.
(00:55):
I think you're gonna like thisyoung man and to actually see
him in person, you're gonna growto love him like I have.
Mr.
Jed Sidwell, big introductioncoming to us live from Oklahoma
State University.
If I had a clapping sound, Iwould make it.
I see if I have one here.
How about a train whistle?
(01:16):
Oh, what's your mascot there incollege, buddy?
SPEAKER_00 (01:19):
Uh it's uh Pistol Peak, Go Pokes.
SPEAKER_01 (01:22):
Go Pokes.
All right, full screen on theold Jed Sid.
Well, well, welcome to thepodcast.
We did this before, it was fun.
I may have been hungover orsomething, I don't know what the
excuse was.
Uh, Nashville can get to you.
Speaking of Nashville, it youwere the intern at uh Nesvik
Trading.
You were awesome, you did well,that was wild.
(01:43):
You knew nobody, literally knewnobody, showed up to uh
Nashville, and away we go.
You uh helped us all summer.
That was fun.
All right, you're at OklahomaState, you're a senior, you
judge cattle, you love cattle,you have a background in cattle.
I don't even know what pricecattle were trading when we did
our last episode, a lot lowerthan where they are now, and we
(02:05):
thought they were high.
But uh take some time,reintroduce yourself to the ag
bull crowd.
Mr.
Jed Sidwell, folks.
SPEAKER_00 (02:12):
Yeah, my name's Jed Sidwell.
I grew up in northern Colorado,about an hour north of Denver,
half hour uh east of FortCollins, if you know where CSU's
at.
I grew up on a diversified agoperation there, uh, where my
family does a bunch of customharvesting.
So we're right in the heart ofthe feed yard and dairy country
there.
So we do custom forageharvesting for the dairies and
(02:34):
feed yards all around the WeldCounty area, and then we raise a
bunch of uh sheep and cattle aswell.
And uh growing up and throughouthigh school, I worked in feed
yards and around cattle, had theopportunity to go and do
livestock judging in college,and that's kind of where my
passion for judging cattle camefrom.
Yeah, I've had a great time kindof pursuing this commodity
(02:56):
trading deal through Tommy andthe boys at Nesvik.
Man, it's been a fun ride justto get here.
SPEAKER_01 (03:03):
You know, I need you to do yeah, turn your head a
little bit and look in thecamera.
Where are you looking?
There you are, there's youraudience.
Hello, everybody, Mr.
Jed Sidwell.
What were you looking up at?
SPEAKER_00 (03:13):
I'm looking at like myself, like or looking at you.
SPEAKER_01 (03:16):
I'm looking at you, looking at you, look at your
audience.
You thought I had Mike Sands onhere.
You know, Mike and I, we'd bepodcasting.
What do you think of the uhlittle Fat Tuesday podcast?
Is Mike not the man?
SPEAKER_00 (03:29):
Yeah, I thought that was great.
I mean, that guy knows so muchat a yeah, just a super
intricate level that's fun tolisten to.
SPEAKER_01 (03:36):
Yeah, you don't know how stupid you are.
What you don't know about cattlefutures trading cash markets
till uh you listen to Mike.
Yeah, he's he's an absolute gem.
That's the Fat Tuesday show,folks, on Agbo Podcast.
All right, back to this show.
Jed, you're at Oklahoma State,you're a senior.
Are you coasting through school?
Is school hard?
Tell us about your collegeclasses.
SPEAKER_00 (03:56):
You know, I'm in here at my last semester, and
the cool thing is I'm just inupper level finance classes, so
it's mostly just stuff I'm superpassionate about.
I have a financial markets andinstitution class that's pretty
fun, and a portfolio managementclass.
So none of it's luckily is toochallenging, but it's engaging
enough to keep me workingtowards it, that's for sure.
SPEAKER_01 (04:17):
Yeah, so you're not stressed out about anything,
you're not like I got 22 credithours and I'm freaking out.
Like you're just you're gettingher done.
It's not your first rodeo, asthey say, correct?
SPEAKER_00 (04:27):
Yeah, absolutely.
I'm coasting right in there like15 credit hours, so it's
enjoyable.
SPEAKER_01 (04:32):
Good, good.
How do you tie up from what youthought we do in the future
snaptions industry into what youknow about cattle?
Uh, what was different now thatyou've had a few months to
reflect from being in Nashvilleat Nasvig and being back at
school, what'd you like?
Well, three-part question.
One, what did you learn, or whatdid you think is different?
(04:52):
And then two, do you miss it?
And then three, you know, do youthink you have a future in the
futures and options business?
Go ahead.
SPEAKER_00 (05:00):
Yeah, I was really, especially from like growing up,
I thought the people that tradedon the futures market were just
people that traded corn andcattle.
I thought that's all it was.
And obviously, as I got intohigh school and college, I knew
different.
Um, but the thing that opened myeyes probably the most were the
outside factors that have nocorrelation at all towards
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cattle, be it politics,economics, uh, diseases, things
like that, other markets, howmuch they can change the market
in just one day.
I didn't know that probablygoing in, but I definitely have
an appreciation for that now.
Yeah, I've I learned a lot thissummer.
(05:43):
I think just getting to sitaround super smart people like
Mike Sands, yourself, and allthe other let's not exaggerate
on this show.
SPEAKER_01 (05:52):
We'll stick with Mike Sands and the other people
on the on the uh we do work withsome smart sons of guns down
there in uh Nashville andMemphis, don't we?
SPEAKER_00 (06:02):
Yeah, we do.
All the high-level traders andthen Tommy.
But uh no, it was a lot of fun.
Uh I got to, yeah, just learningthe lingo and being around that
every day.
Uh you pick up on a lot.
Yeah, and it kind of led me.
I I got my series threeaccomplished.
Oh, congratulations.
Hello, golf clap.
Yeah, yeah.
Certainly wasn't the most funtime of my life studying for it.
(06:24):
That was a yeah, that's a prettylong test if you know anything
of series three, but it was itwas a lot of fun.
SPEAKER_01 (06:30):
Yeah.
Yeah, the series three isn'tthat uh fun.
You think you'll never use anyof those things you take on the
test, but you you kind of use alittle bit of them every day.
I mean, there's the the uh alittle bit of the math, a little
bit of the ethics, a little bitof the oh, all types.
I could tell you a story.
One time I had a guy call me afew years ago, he's like, I want
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to open an account.
What business are you in?
He's like, Oh, we raisedmarijuana, we're gonna be have a
lot of cash put in the account.
And all I could think about waslike, no, strike against them,
strike against them.
You can't take cash.
You can't like, oh that no,thanks for calling.
That was so sweet, but I don'tthink this is the right fit, you
know.
And yeah, it's it's a it's awild world.
(07:13):
You know, the world of trading'schanging a lot, Jed.
We got this Bitcoin, we gotevery other new coin, we got
gold and silver upon recordingthis.
Today is Wednesday, and we'regonna release this heck with it.
I think we release it tonight.
I'll get it right out here in alittle bit, or tomorrow morning.
But silver's at all-time,all-time highs.
Did you notice gold and silverand everything going cuckoo for
(07:34):
Cocoa Puffs?
SPEAKER_00 (07:35):
Yeah, I did, and we actually talked about it in our
classes today.
SPEAKER_01 (07:39):
You did do so.
SPEAKER_00 (07:40):
Yeah, our one professor was joking that yeah,
with it'll probably have a biguh impact on inflation.
We as we're going into the jobmarket here, we need to make
sure that our yeah, incomingsalaries are probably adjusted
accordingly.
SPEAKER_01 (07:54):
That's that's oh, I like that.
I like that.
Yeah, it's interesting.
The the things we focus inmyself as a commodity trader and
commodity broker, I can tradeanything and I like volatility,
but as a commodity broker, I'myou if corn's not busy, you're
not busy.
I don't care what they say.
(08:15):
Like you could be a cattlebroker, you're sure you're busy
in cattle.
Cattle are at such a high priceright now that it's pretty hard
to be really busy because peoplewho need to be hedged are
already hedged.
People who want to get hedgedsay, heck, with if I just wait
one more day, they'll be upagain tomorrow.
I mean, it's an interestingmarket there, but I feel if
corn's slow, the whole world'sslow.
(08:35):
I just noticed I haven't beengoing back and forth, screen on
me, screen on you, but I gottatell everyone, you look so good
in that podcast studio thatthere's no sense of anyone
looking at me when they couldlook at you.
I'm here in Valparaiso, Indiana.
Show y'all where that is on themap, and we're coming to you
from where I'm at.
(08:58):
Mr.
Jed is in Oklahoma.
Jed, we're not done yet.
We're just going uh we're just alittle bit through this deal
here.
You're at OK State.
How do people get a hold of youon social media because they
think you're a pretty hip cat?
SPEAKER_00 (09:11):
Yeah, my personal accounts would all just be Jed
Sidwell.
But then, yeah, my familyoperates a show livestock
business at Sidwell Show Sheepand Sidwell Show Steers on
Facebook if you want to find us.
Just yeah, we raise stock on theside for the 4-H and FFA
exhibitors around the country,and that's kind of something fun
that keeps us engaged in theoff-season a little bit.
(09:33):
Yeah, that's where you'd findme.
SPEAKER_01 (09:35):
I love it.
I love it.
Let's go back to a class.
Are you guys talking about this?
How long will the governmentshutdown last?
You guys talking about that?
SPEAKER_00 (09:45):
Yeah, you know, we're talking like, yeah, will
it break the record of like 34days or whatever it is?
Hopefully not.
Yeah, all the students aretalking about buying flights
back home and this and that, andhopefully it'll be back open by
Thanksgiving so they can buy aflight home and make sure that
they get there.
Yeah, I have a friend that workshere in uh Oklahoma State.
(10:06):
There's a USDA center and thatdoes some like peanut research,
and she helps run their researchthere, and she she can't go and
work and make her money to helppay herself through college.
So, yeah, it it affectseverybody.
SPEAKER_01 (10:19):
Whether we know what you say when the peanut research
person can't do their job?
What's that?
That's nuts.
Yeah, it's nuts.
Well, and back to the show.
Oh man, you think we'll get ajob at uh comedy hour or
something?
You and I cracking each otherup.
Hey, you want to talk about someserious stuff that uh I found
(10:40):
out about you, good, bad, anddifferent, but it's my
understanding.
Last year at campus, I was outto dinner the other day at uh
our favorite Italian restaurantin Nashville, Villa, and I had
asked you by chance what you hadthought of the Charlie Kirk
incident, and then if you hadever met or seen Charlie Kirk,
(11:00):
and you, of all people, blew mymind and actually started
showing me pictures and videosand everything else.
But from a young person'sperspective, tell tell me, tell
your story about you know whatyou knew about him, and it's
your story.
You go ahead and tell it, Jed.
SPEAKER_00 (11:17):
Yeah, it was actually about a hundred yards
from where I sit right now inthe Oklahoma State Library.
Charlie Kirk came on his just uhtour uh to come discuss and
debate college students.
Yeah, he they gave us about athree or four-day notice that he
was gonna be coming to town.
I had an early morning class,and when I came outside, there
(11:38):
were 5,000 students on the mainlawn here at Oklahoma State
gathered around to try and seeCharlie Kirk.
It was huge.
When was this, Jed?
This would have been April ofthis past year, so April 2025.
Yeah.
Just yeah, they give him apretty short notice ago.
(11:59):
Yeah, yeah, not long ago.
And yeah, it was shoulder toshoulder.
We kind of made our way throughthe crowd.
I probably, yeah, I got andwithin distance, I could see
him.
Uh, it was pretty cool.
They had like chauffeurs andushers going through the crowd.
Uh, if you had a question andwanted to ask him, they'd lead
you right up there and put youin line so that you could.
It was truly uh an open mic andan ability to yeah, say your
(12:22):
thoughts, get out what youwanted to talk about, get his
opinion from.
And I thought that was maybesomething that was kind of lost
throughout the whole thing.
It was just, yeah, it truly wasjust an open mic.
Anybody could come through.
It wasn't staged or prompted atall.
Yeah, and then sadly,unfortunately, when that all
occurred, just a few days beforethat, I was actually in Utah
(12:43):
judging the Utah State Faircattle show, and I came back
home and got the yeah, shockingnews of what had happened.
Yeah, kind of a sad deal becauseit was away from my generation,
I think, to have an open mic andan open conversation uh to
discuss our differences, whetherwe agree or not.
Yeah, it was cool to say that,yeah, I'm gonna be able to tell
(13:04):
my kids someday that, yeah, Isaw him in person.
SPEAKER_01 (13:07):
Yeah, that's that's a wild one.
That's one for the books, kiddo.
Yeah, I felt like I knew whoCharlie Kirk was.
And I I I knew a little abouthim.
I remember on the election whenthey announced President Trump
had uh won.
They showed this, you know, kidput a red hat on and put his
hands in his his head in hishands, and he had worked so
hard.
(13:27):
I didn't realize how connectedhe was with the youth.
And I didn't realize it wasbased from the Christian
background or I mean, look whatlook what they're talking about
doing now with the Super Bowl.
Hey, you want to watch SuperBowl?
Fine.
Go over here and uh watch KidRock and all these other people
perform the halftime show.
Like there's gonna be thehalftime show, they say, There's
(13:48):
gonna be the turning pointhalftime show.
Yeah, it's wild things going on.
So tell me for uh I wasdevastated and I didn't know why
I was devastated.
I was at my desk in NorthDakota, I was on a conference
call talking about the Agbolwebsite, which is now up, and uh
I was on the phone on a Teamscall with the developers, and uh
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one of the developers, hisname's Nick, went to high school
with Charlie and knew him.
He went to, I believe, likeWheeler High School, or it's in
the western suburbs of Illinois,so right around there.
And I had said, you know, guys,I'm sorry I'm a little off, but
I think I think I just watchedthis young man Charlie Kirk get
assassinated live on I didn'twatch it live, but you know,
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obviously the clips were outthere a lot of what happened,
and then they pulled them down.
I'm like, I'm a littledisturbed.
I don't think he's gonna makeit.
And then Nick goes, Charlie, whooh, I went to high school with
him.
Well, what's up with him?
And they're like, uh Nick,something bad happened to him.
And it started from like, oh,you know, something might have
happened, an accident, we'llsee, to like, no, that that
really happened.
And then I think it's neat youmet him.
(14:55):
I I don't know that he'sreplaceable.
What do you think?
SPEAKER_00 (14:58):
Yeah, he was certainly one of it a kind, and
I think the the impressive thingthat kind of blew me away was
his ability just to retainfacts, quotes, bible verses.
Like he could pull just so muchinformation and data just off
out of thin air and uh apply itto a conversation he was having.
SPEAKER_01 (15:20):
He was like a walking he he wasn't always like
that though.
I I I don't know if you rememberduring the funeral mass, there
was a college professor from anonline university in Michigan.
Do you remember that?
I can't say that I do.
That's okay.
And I was why I didn't quiteunderstand, but Charlie didn't
go to college, but he did a lotof studying afterwards, and so
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he wasn't like wicked, smart,crazy smart like they don't
think in high school.
He was playing basketball inhigh school, acting like a kid.
It was after that he sought outthis knowledge and then he just
took it to the next level.
So, for those things you'retalking about, the Bible verses,
the politics, like he practiced,he hired teachers to coach him
and make him better.
(16:02):
Just like I would hire someoneto make me better at public
speaking, or you would hiresomeone to you know show you
something in cattle, or someonemight hire you to say what could
we do to make sure these cattlejudge better?
And you give them points andtips.
But yeah, he was he is veryinteresting.
I don't know that there's anyonelike him.
And uh I've really since maybe aweek or two after he passed, I
(16:22):
kind of just just got away fromit.
Like people are like, oh, watchthis video, watch this.
I'm like, you know what?
I'm I'm gonna go on with my lifenow.
Like, I can't get dragged intothis weirdness of who did what
or what's going on here.
But it's definitely interesting,and I did it's got me thinking.
It's got me thinking a lot.
And so when I spoke to you a fewweeks ago and I said, Jed, what
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did you think of Charlie Kirk?
And you're like, well, yeah, uh,you know, it's interesting.
I watched him speak a few monthsago, and you were you actually
at the college where theassassination happened, judging?
SPEAKER_00 (16:54):
I was not far from there.
I was in Salt Lake, so I think Iwould have been 20, 30 minutes
away from there.
But yeah, it was just I had aflight out, like I think within
20 or 48 hours of when ithappened.
So yeah, it's like I got back toOklahoma State and yeah, got the
news of like the class I wasgoing to next.
And yeah, it was it was shockingjust because I had just been
(17:17):
there.
SPEAKER_01 (17:17):
Yeah, that's that's weird.
Well, thank you for sharing thatstory.
I I think it's interesting.
I uh you're one of the onlyyoung people I know who are in
college.
I don't I don't know if I knowanyone who's ever seen him ever.
SPEAKER_00 (17:30):
Yeah.
I know of one or two other kidsthat like had met him at like a
meet and greet thing somewhere.
But yeah, it's yeah, I canprobably outside of my buddies
that were here with me atOklahoma State that day, the
other people, yeah, not notmany.
SPEAKER_01 (17:46):
Yeah, let me ask you this real quick before we go,
and we won't beat this aroundanymore.
And did you feel threatened atall or nervous?
Like I've been in situationswhere like you're in a bad part
of Chicago and you're like,we're in a bad neighborhood, we
need to get out of here.
That that rally or meeting orwhatever they call it, did it
was there like anger there?
SPEAKER_00 (18:03):
Could you see people are anger or hostile or there
were some people you know withlike pickets and like standing
around the outside, but kind ofnot in support, but like it
definitely it wasn't superthreatening.
And there were some jabs or someyells here or there, but I
definitely didn't feel unsafe.
The week or two after he waskilled, they did actually the
(18:27):
turning point chapter here in atOklahoma State.
They did a memoriam for him onthe same lawn, and we went to it
and on all the rooftops therewere yeah, guys in the military
with sniper rifles and such,trying to make sure that we were
all safe.
And then it really yeah, that'sprobably when it dawned on me.
(18:47):
Man, this that was dangerous andscary.
SPEAKER_01 (18:51):
Yeah, we'll see what happens.
America's by far the best placein the world to live in.
It's yeah, it's always goingthrough challenges.
All right, moving on.
We got cattle, they're movingup.
The price is going crazy.
We probably did a podcasttogether two, three months ago.
We thought cattle were high.
We got screw worm.
Have you caught the media atall?
Have you caught this young lady?
(19:12):
I like her, but boy, she thisyoung gal here, this is Brooke
Rowland, Secretary ofAgriculture.
She is stating that we are inthe golden age of agriculture.
She must be talking aboutcattle.
Is that correct?
SPEAKER_00 (19:27):
Yeah, I think that's definitely the thing that she's
pointing to towards right now,and probably the golden age for
the cattle feeder, especially,being that corn is so cheap, uh
and the best way to utilize itright now or on cattle that are
yeah, going through the roof.
I I think it's a crazy time tobe alive.
(19:47):
You talk about the old cattlefeeders that I luckily get to
talk to pretty regularly, andthey they say, well, this is
cyclical, it happens all thetime.
I don't think we've ever seen itcontinue like this for so long.
And they yeah, the yield saying,Yeah, it's the stairs up, but
it's the elevator down.
(20:08):
Uh, it'll be interesting to seeif that occurs and when it does,
if it's that drastic.
Yeah, we're in uncharted waters,that's for sure.
SPEAKER_01 (20:16):
Yeah, I uh I was on Chip Flory's show the other day
and uh the uh yesterdayactually, and I was just talking
about this this market mediacalls, and they say, uh, hey,
what's going on with cattle?
And my response is the market'sopen.
The media call and they'll say,Hey, why are uh cattle up?
(20:37):
I'm like, because the market'sopen, and they're like, no,
seriously.
I'm like, no, I'm being serious,markets open, that's what
happens.
Market opens, cattle go up.
We all look at each other andsay, Why didn't we buy them?
Right.
A couple things.
This little son of a biscuit hadsomething to do with it.
Explain to me, us, thelisteners, some people are
watching this, some people arelistening on Spotify and Apple.
(21:00):
By the way, if you are, thankyou.
And uh click like and subscribe.
How do you explain screw worm tothe modern day housewife,
houseman who doesn't understandit?
And if and when they say screwworm is in the United States,
should we be panicked?
Mr.
Jed Sidwell, stage is yours,sir.
SPEAKER_00 (21:17):
Yeah, so the screw worm isn't just a new thing.
We've had it in the U.S.
before.
We had a big breakout in the1970s when the screw worm came
in, but it's not something thatthe American consumer needs to
be terrified of.
It's just like any otherburrowing insect, uh it bites
the cattle, lays its eggs forthere there to hatch.
(21:39):
I mean, what it looks for is awound or opening of some sort.
So you see it oftentimes incattle around dehorning,
castration, branding, thingslike that, where the skin might
be opened, but it's notsomething completely foreign.
We've had it before.
My family, yeah, brand ourcattle every single year, and at
that time we apply screw wormspray, and I think we have been
(22:03):
since aerosol screw worm sprayhas been invented.
It's obviously something we wantto be conscious about as like
stockmen that care about thewell-being and health of our
livestock.
It's not something we want, andit's not something we're just
completely uh not worried about,but I don't think we need to be
scared about it.
The summer when I was at Nesbik,Texas Tech did a big Zoom
(22:25):
seminar over the history of thescrew worm.
That's where I got some of thisfrom.
And I think the quote I pulledfrom it is that it's not going
to be a big wave of locustscoming over the border when it
happens.
It's gonna be some casesthroughout the United States
where some cattle get infected,but it doesn't immediately just
kill cattle, it has to developand burrow and have a large
(22:47):
infestation for that to happen.
And as the old saying goes, uhthat maybe your baseball coach
told you, uh it's a long waysfrom the heart.
It would, yeah.
I don't think the implicationsuh in terms of cattle morality
are going to be that high.
But obviously, in this day ofage of trading, where a lot of
our trading information comesfrom the news and the media, uh,
(23:10):
it's something that they canplug that uh causes uh the
markets to do kind of some crazythings like we've seen.
SPEAKER_01 (23:16):
Yeah, I imagine it'll be uh if they were to
announce it that hey, it's here,we're gonna have an emergency
meeting.
It it would definitely move themarkets.
I don't know how much for howlong would someone not go to
Costco and buy beef because ofto me, it it would be maybe I'm
not thinking of it right, but mylittle dogs, they get ticks on
(23:38):
them all the time.
We don't freak out that a doghas ticks or could get a tick.
We put tick collars on them,tick spray, and sometimes even
with that, they still get atick, right?
You look and you're like, what'sthat bump?
There's a tick.
We we address it, right?
Could it hurt them?
Could it kill them?
Yeah, if it like bites them inthe head or does something, or
if you get Lyme's disease, butit's it's the dog's problem, the
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animal's problem.
I don't think it's the human'sproblem, correct?
SPEAKER_00 (24:02):
No, no, it's yeah, like you're saying with the
ticks, it's not something wejust want to bury our head in
the sand and say it's not gonnahappen.
Um, but it's not something wejust need to say the sky's
falling and be completelyworried about as well.
I think the one thing that weprobably take for granted as
Americans, the United States,and the food system that we
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have, we have the best resourceswhen it comes to animal health
products.
Like, I mean, every cattleproducer has direct access to
Dectamax, permethrin,ivermectin.
I mean, shoot, even there'sthese things called cattle socks
where you can put out in yourpasture and fill them with
pesticides that your cattle cango and rub on.
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And we have the greatest animalhealth resources compared to
most countries.
Our animal working facilitiesare great.
And I think that's probably thedifference between us and these
Central American countries thatit's hitting right now.
Our animal infrastructure is somuch higher that it's not gonna
have just this drastic effect onus.
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We're gonna have an ability tofight it off pretty well.
SPEAKER_01 (25:07):
Absolutely.
And when it if and when ithappens, you know who's gonna
come out with videos andresources to help you do all
this stuff.
Jed, you know, as you know, wehave premium content.
This is a lot of the reasonwe're gearing up to do these
videos.
Super excited.
If you're watching or listening,go to www.agbull.com.
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This episode's free becauseJed's so awesome.
We would never hold them down orcharge you to see them.
But if you're interested ineducational videos, text on
actionable alerts, cash salealerts, morning research,
afternoon research, and videosthat truly help you be a better
marketer of grain.
And of course, we have somecattle experts at our office too
(25:50):
doing that video fat Tuesday,etc.
That is premium$25 a month,$250annually.
That's probably the biggest plugI've ever done with that.
But the reason I do that isbecause you were the one who
were helping me gear up theoffice and the uh podcast studio
and everything else.
And I can't tell you how awesomeyou look in that podcast studio.
How many people can podcaststudio there at Oklahoma?
SPEAKER_00 (26:12):
There's two rooms here, and this room here has
four mics, and I think you canrent out a couple more.
Yeah, yeah.
You just have to go on yourstudent account and book a time,
and it's free for you to do freefor you to use.
It's actually pretty damn easy.
SPEAKER_01 (26:28):
And and the thing is, like, I'm not gonna edit
this video at all.
So, folks, what you're watching,what you're listening, what
you're seeing, it's not likeit's not like we did anything to
it.
This is just us talking.
I think people like listening topeople talk.
What do you think?
SPEAKER_00 (26:39):
Yeah, I think it's just genuine and wholesome to a
point as well.
SPEAKER_01 (26:44):
Speaking of genuine and wholesome, lightning round,
I'm gonna ask you somequestions.
What type of podcast does ayoungster like you from Oklahoma
State listen to, if you havetime?
SPEAKER_00 (26:52):
Oh man, there's a bunch.
Well, of course, to listen toAgvil Media, had to plug that in
there.
SPEAKER_01 (26:57):
Ring the bell.
Hold on, we got bells.
Hold on, I'll ring it.
Hold on.
If you want to get a hold of us,folks, give us a call.
1855-737-Farm.
Right there, you ring the bell.
Go ahead, continue.
Podcast, yeah.
SPEAKER_00 (27:12):
Uh, I've been on another podcast with Top Judge.
I'm a member of that program.
SPEAKER_01 (27:17):
Oh, do tell, do tell what's that all about?
SPEAKER_00 (27:19):
I actually recorded one for them in this room here.
They uh it's a group of uh kindof seasoned livestock judges
from throughout the country thathave judged all the major
national shows, have cometogether together, found a bunch
of sponsors to get in contactwith college graduates like
myself and uh kids at otheruniversities that went through
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collegiate livestock judging totry and find the next generation
of livestock evaluators to kindof try and make sure we're
moving in a positive directionas an industry.
So, yeah, they have funpodcasts.
You can go to listen to them atTop Judge.
The the uh podcast, I guess, iscalled The Sort.
SPEAKER_01 (27:58):
Do you remember what episode you were?
What episode number, anythingelse, or is it just name?
SPEAKER_00 (28:02):
I was on I was I think in the first 10 episodes I
was on.
SPEAKER_01 (28:05):
So very cool.
I'm sure if they just Googleyour name, Jed Sidwell, and it's
called Top Judge?
SPEAKER_00 (28:10):
Yeah, the sort, and then Jed Sidwell I'd pop up on
there.
Uh it's a great podcast ifyou're interested into the uh
livestock judging and showingthing like myself.
Just for fun, I don't know.
I like to listen to I I listento Rogan.
I was a wrestler back in highschool when he gets on some of
those MMA fighters and wrestlersand things like that.
(28:31):
And he's a big jujitsu guy, so Ilike listening to that.
That's pretty fun.
SPEAKER_01 (28:35):
Yeah, jujitsu.
All right, I'm gonna let you uhfinish this up.
I'm not gonna pop back in, butfolks, my name is Tommy Gersafi.
We have Jed Sidwell on.
He's gonna close the show withsome really great reasons to be
optimistic about uh cattle andbeing in agriculture.
When you get done, I'll play theclosing, but I'm gonna let you
close there, Mr.
Podcaster from Oklahoma StateUniversity, Jed Sidwell.
SPEAKER_00 (28:58):
Yeah, I think we are in uncharted water waters, like
I said earlier, but it's a funtime to be in agriculture.
And I think another reason to beso positive and call it the
golden age is right now we havethe greatest opportunity to be
in direct contact with theconsumer, which is something we
haven't had in the past.
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So yeah, it's a really, reallygood time to be in agriculture.
Uh, you can learn more,obviously, at AgBull Media.
Uh, you can find me on all mysocial media platforms at Jed
Sidwell.
Yeah.
Go Pokes and go AgBull Media.
SPEAKER_01 (29:36):
You the man, Jedstars.
I'll see you soon.
SPEAKER_00 (29:39):
Talk to you later, Tommy.
Welcome back to the Ag Bull Podcast, Tommy
Grissaffi.
Well, we're gonna do something alittle different.
This summer, I don't know howmany of the Ag Bull Podcasts you
listen to, but we had a youngman by the name of Jed on, and
uh we did a vocal podcast.
The irony of that is Jed spent aton of his summer helping me
build my podcast studio inNashville, and we were supposed
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to have lights on and camera andall this other stuff, but he had
to go back to college and wenever got to film it the way I
want to.
Well, would you believe that hisawesome college has a podcast
studio?
And I love promoting media, Ilove promoting people in
agriculture, so we're gonnabreak it down.
It's harvest, this be a greatepisode to listen to in the
combine, combining some corn.
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I think you're gonna like thisyoung man and to actually see
him in person, you're gonna growto love him like I have.
Mr.
Jed Sidwell, big introductioncoming to us live from Oklahoma
State University.
If I had a clapping sound, Iwould make it.
I see if I have one here.
How about a train whistle?
(01:16):
Oh, what's your mascot there incollege, buddy?
SPEAKER_00 (01:19):
Uh it's uh Pistol Peak, Go Pokes.
SPEAKER_01 (01:22):
Go Pokes.
All right, full screen on theold Jed Sid.
Well, well, welcome to thepodcast.
We did this before, it was fun.
I may have been hungover orsomething, I don't know what the
excuse was.
Uh, Nashville can get to you.
Speaking of Nashville, it youwere the intern at uh Nesvik
Trading.
You were awesome, you did well,that was wild.
(01:43):
You knew nobody, literally knewnobody, showed up to uh
Nashville, and away we go.
You uh helped us all summer.
That was fun.
All right, you're at OklahomaState, you're a senior, you
judge cattle, you love cattle,you have a background in cattle.
I don't even know what pricecattle were trading when we did
our last episode, a lot lowerthan where they are now, and we
(02:05):
thought they were high.
But uh take some time,reintroduce yourself to the ag
bull crowd.
Mr.
Jed Sidwell, folks.
SPEAKER_00 (02:12):
Yeah, my name's Jed Sidwell.
I grew up in northern Colorado,about an hour north of Denver,
half hour uh east of FortCollins, if you know where CSU's
at.
I grew up on a diversified agoperation there, uh, where my
family does a bunch of customharvesting.
So we're right in the heart ofthe feed yard and dairy country
there.
So we do custom forageharvesting for the dairies and
(02:34):
feed yards all around the WeldCounty area, and then we raise a
bunch of uh sheep and cattle aswell.
And uh growing up and throughouthigh school, I worked in feed
yards and around cattle, had theopportunity to go and do
livestock judging in college,and that's kind of where my
passion for judging cattle camefrom.
Yeah, I've had a great time kindof pursuing this commodity
(02:56):
trading deal through Tommy andthe boys at Nesvik.
Man, it's been a fun ride justto get here.
SPEAKER_01 (03:03):
You know, I need you to do yeah, turn your head a
little bit and look in thecamera.
Where are you looking?
There you are, there's youraudience.
Hello, everybody, Mr.
Jed Sidwell.
What were you looking up at?
SPEAKER_00 (03:13):
I'm looking at like myself, like or looking at you.
SPEAKER_01 (03:16):
I'm looking at you, looking at you, look at your
audience.
You thought I had Mike Sands onhere.
You know, Mike and I, we'd bepodcasting.
What do you think of the uhlittle Fat Tuesday podcast?
Is Mike not the man?
SPEAKER_00 (03:29):
Yeah, I thought that was great.
I mean, that guy knows so muchat a yeah, just a super
intricate level that's fun tolisten to.
SPEAKER_01 (03:36):
Yeah, you don't know how stupid you are.
What you don't know about cattlefutures trading cash markets
till uh you listen to Mike.
Yeah, he's he's an absolute gem.
That's the Fat Tuesday show,folks, on Agbo Podcast.
All right, back to this show.
Jed, you're at Oklahoma State,you're a senior.
Are you coasting through school?
Is school hard?
Tell us about your collegeclasses.
SPEAKER_00 (03:56):
You know, I'm in here at my last semester, and
the cool thing is I'm just inupper level finance classes, so
it's mostly just stuff I'm superpassionate about.
I have a financial markets andinstitution class that's pretty
fun, and a portfolio managementclass.
So none of it's luckily is toochallenging, but it's engaging
enough to keep me workingtowards it, that's for sure.
SPEAKER_01 (04:17):
Yeah, so you're not stressed out about anything,
you're not like I got 22 credithours and I'm freaking out.
Like you're just you're gettingher done.
It's not your first rodeo, asthey say, correct?
SPEAKER_00 (04:27):
Yeah, absolutely.
I'm coasting right in there like15 credit hours, so it's
enjoyable.
SPEAKER_01 (04:32):
Good, good.
How do you tie up from what youthought we do in the future
snaptions industry into what youknow about cattle?
Uh, what was different now thatyou've had a few months to
reflect from being in Nashvilleat Nasvig and being back at
school, what'd you like?
Well, three-part question.
One, what did you learn, or whatdid you think is different?
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And then two, do you miss it?
And then three, you know, do youthink you have a future in the
futures and options business?
Go ahead.
SPEAKER_00 (05:00):
Yeah, I was really, especially from like growing up,
I thought the people that tradedon the futures market were just
people that traded corn andcattle.
I thought that's all it was.
And obviously, as I got intohigh school and college, I knew
different.
Um, but the thing that opened myeyes probably the most were the
outside factors that have nocorrelation at all towards
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cattle, be it politics,economics, uh, diseases, things
like that, other markets, howmuch they can change the market
in just one day.
I didn't know that probablygoing in, but I definitely have
an appreciation for that now.
Yeah, I've I learned a lot thissummer.
(05:43):
I think just getting to sitaround super smart people like
Mike Sands, yourself, and allthe other let's not exaggerate
on this show.
SPEAKER_01 (05:52):
We'll stick with Mike Sands and the other people
on the on the uh we do work withsome smart sons of guns down
there in uh Nashville andMemphis, don't we?
SPEAKER_00 (06:02):
Yeah, we do.
All the high-level traders andthen Tommy.
But uh no, it was a lot of fun.
Uh I got to, yeah, just learningthe lingo and being around that
every day.
Uh you pick up on a lot.
Yeah, and it kind of led me.
I I got my series threeaccomplished.
Oh, congratulations.
Hello, golf clap.
Yeah, yeah.
Certainly wasn't the most funtime of my life studying for it.
(06:24):
That was a yeah, that's a prettylong test if you know anything
of series three, but it was itwas a lot of fun.
SPEAKER_01 (06:30):
Yeah.
Yeah, the series three isn'tthat uh fun.
You think you'll never use anyof those things you take on the
test, but you you kind of use alittle bit of them every day.
I mean, there's the the uh alittle bit of the math, a little
bit of the ethics, a little bitof the oh, all types.
I could tell you a story.
One time I had a guy call me afew years ago, he's like, I want
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to open an account.
What business are you in?
He's like, Oh, we raisedmarijuana, we're gonna be have a
lot of cash put in the account.
And all I could think about waslike, no, strike against them,
strike against them.
You can't take cash.
You can't like, oh that no,thanks for calling.
That was so sweet, but I don'tthink this is the right fit, you
know.
And yeah, it's it's a it's awild world.
(07:13):
You know, the world of trading'schanging a lot, Jed.
We got this Bitcoin, we gotevery other new coin, we got
gold and silver upon recordingthis.
Today is Wednesday, and we'regonna release this heck with it.
I think we release it tonight.
I'll get it right out here in alittle bit, or tomorrow morning.
But silver's at all-time,all-time highs.
Did you notice gold and silverand everything going cuckoo for
(07:34):
Cocoa Puffs?
SPEAKER_00 (07:35):
Yeah, I did, and we actually talked about it in our
classes today.
SPEAKER_01 (07:39):
You did do so.
SPEAKER_00 (07:40):
Yeah, our one professor was joking that yeah,
with it'll probably have a biguh impact on inflation.
We as we're going into the jobmarket here, we need to make
sure that our yeah, incomingsalaries are probably adjusted
accordingly.
SPEAKER_01 (07:54):
That's that's oh, I like that.
I like that.
Yeah, it's interesting.
The the things we focus inmyself as a commodity trader and
commodity broker, I can tradeanything and I like volatility,
but as a commodity broker, I'myou if corn's not busy, you're
not busy.
I don't care what they say.
(08:15):
Like you could be a cattlebroker, you're sure you're busy
in cattle.
Cattle are at such a high priceright now that it's pretty hard
to be really busy because peoplewho need to be hedged are
already hedged.
People who want to get hedgedsay, heck, with if I just wait
one more day, they'll be upagain tomorrow.
I mean, it's an interestingmarket there, but I feel if
corn's slow, the whole world'sslow.
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I just noticed I haven't beengoing back and forth, screen on
me, screen on you, but I gottatell everyone, you look so good
in that podcast studio thatthere's no sense of anyone
looking at me when they couldlook at you.
I'm here in Valparaiso, Indiana.
Show y'all where that is on themap, and we're coming to you
from where I'm at.
(08:58):
Mr.
Jed is in Oklahoma.
Jed, we're not done yet.
We're just going uh we're just alittle bit through this deal
here.
You're at OK State.
How do people get a hold of youon social media because they
think you're a pretty hip cat?
SPEAKER_00 (09:11):
Yeah, my personal accounts would all just be Jed
Sidwell.
But then, yeah, my familyoperates a show livestock
business at Sidwell Show Sheepand Sidwell Show Steers on
Facebook if you want to find us.
Just yeah, we raise stock on theside for the 4-H and FFA
exhibitors around the country,and that's kind of something fun
that keeps us engaged in theoff-season a little bit.
(09:33):
Yeah, that's where you'd findme.
SPEAKER_01 (09:35):
I love it.
I love it.
Let's go back to a class.
Are you guys talking about this?
How long will the governmentshutdown last?
You guys talking about that?
SPEAKER_00 (09:45):
Yeah, you know, we're talking like, yeah, will
it break the record of like 34days or whatever it is?
Hopefully not.
Yeah, all the students aretalking about buying flights
back home and this and that, andhopefully it'll be back open by
Thanksgiving so they can buy aflight home and make sure that
they get there.
Yeah, I have a friend that workshere in uh Oklahoma State.
(10:06):
There's a USDA center and thatdoes some like peanut research,
and she helps run their researchthere, and she she can't go and
work and make her money to helppay herself through college.
So, yeah, it it affectseverybody.
SPEAKER_01 (10:19):
Whether we know what you say when the peanut research
person can't do their job?
What's that?
That's nuts.
Yeah, it's nuts.
Well, and back to the show.
Oh man, you think we'll get ajob at uh comedy hour or
something?
You and I cracking each otherup.
Hey, you want to talk about someserious stuff that uh I found
(10:40):
out about you, good, bad, anddifferent, but it's my
understanding.
Last year at campus, I was outto dinner the other day at uh
our favorite Italian restaurantin Nashville, Villa, and I had
asked you by chance what you hadthought of the Charlie Kirk
incident, and then if you hadever met or seen Charlie Kirk,
(11:00):
and you, of all people, blew mymind and actually started
showing me pictures and videosand everything else.
But from a young person'sperspective, tell tell me, tell
your story about you know whatyou knew about him, and it's
your story.
You go ahead and tell it, Jed.
SPEAKER_00 (11:17):
Yeah, it was actually about a hundred yards
from where I sit right now inthe Oklahoma State Library.
Charlie Kirk came on his just uhtour uh to come discuss and
debate college students.
Yeah, he they gave us about athree or four-day notice that he
was gonna be coming to town.
I had an early morning class,and when I came outside, there
(11:38):
were 5,000 students on the mainlawn here at Oklahoma State
gathered around to try and seeCharlie Kirk.
It was huge.
When was this, Jed?
This would have been April ofthis past year, so April 2025.
Yeah.
Just yeah, they give him apretty short notice ago.
(11:59):
Yeah, yeah, not long ago.
And yeah, it was shoulder toshoulder.
We kind of made our way throughthe crowd.
I probably, yeah, I got andwithin distance, I could see
him.
Uh, it was pretty cool.
They had like chauffeurs andushers going through the crowd.
Uh, if you had a question andwanted to ask him, they'd lead
you right up there and put youin line so that you could.
It was truly uh an open mic andan ability to yeah, say your
(12:22):
thoughts, get out what youwanted to talk about, get his
opinion from.
And I thought that was maybesomething that was kind of lost
throughout the whole thing.
It was just, yeah, it truly wasjust an open mic.
Anybody could come through.
It wasn't staged or prompted atall.
Yeah, and then sadly,unfortunately, when that all
occurred, just a few days beforethat, I was actually in Utah
(12:43):
judging the Utah State Faircattle show, and I came back
home and got the yeah, shockingnews of what had happened.
Yeah, kind of a sad deal becauseit was away from my generation,
I think, to have an open mic andan open conversation uh to
discuss our differences, whetherwe agree or not.
Yeah, it was cool to say that,yeah, I'm gonna be able to tell
(13:04):
my kids someday that, yeah, Isaw him in person.
SPEAKER_01 (13:07):
Yeah, that's that's a wild one.
That's one for the books, kiddo.
Yeah, I felt like I knew whoCharlie Kirk was.
And I I I knew a little abouthim.
I remember on the election whenthey announced President Trump
had uh won.
They showed this, you know, kidput a red hat on and put his
hands in his his head in hishands, and he had worked so
hard.
(13:27):
I didn't realize how connectedhe was with the youth.
And I didn't realize it wasbased from the Christian
background or I mean, look whatlook what they're talking about
doing now with the Super Bowl.
Hey, you want to watch SuperBowl?
Fine.
Go over here and uh watch KidRock and all these other people
perform the halftime show.
Like there's gonna be thehalftime show, they say, There's
(13:48):
gonna be the turning pointhalftime show.
Yeah, it's wild things going on.
So tell me for uh I wasdevastated and I didn't know why
I was devastated.
I was at my desk in NorthDakota, I was on a conference
call talking about the Agbolwebsite, which is now up, and uh
I was on the phone on a Teamscall with the developers, and uh
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one of the developers, hisname's Nick, went to high school
with Charlie and knew him.
He went to, I believe, likeWheeler High School, or it's in
the western suburbs of Illinois,so right around there.
And I had said, you know, guys,I'm sorry I'm a little off, but
I think I think I just watchedthis young man Charlie Kirk get
assassinated live on I didn'twatch it live, but you know,
(14:33):
obviously the clips were outthere a lot of what happened,
and then they pulled them down.
I'm like, I'm a littledisturbed.
I don't think he's gonna makeit.
And then Nick goes, Charlie, whooh, I went to high school with
him.
Well, what's up with him?
And they're like, uh Nick,something bad happened to him.
And it started from like, oh,you know, something might have
happened, an accident, we'llsee, to like, no, that that
really happened.
And then I think it's neat youmet him.
(14:55):
I I don't know that he'sreplaceable.
What do you think?
SPEAKER_00 (14:58):
Yeah, he was certainly one of it a kind, and
I think the the impressive thingthat kind of blew me away was
his ability just to retainfacts, quotes, bible verses.
Like he could pull just so muchinformation and data just off
out of thin air and uh apply itto a conversation he was having.
SPEAKER_01 (15:20):
He was like a walking he he wasn't always like
that though.
I I I don't know if you rememberduring the funeral mass, there
was a college professor from anonline university in Michigan.
Do you remember that?
I can't say that I do.
That's okay.
And I was why I didn't quiteunderstand, but Charlie didn't
go to college, but he did a lotof studying afterwards, and so
(15:41):
he wasn't like wicked, smart,crazy smart like they don't
think in high school.
He was playing basketball inhigh school, acting like a kid.
It was after that he sought outthis knowledge and then he just
took it to the next level.
So, for those things you'retalking about, the Bible verses,
the politics, like he practiced,he hired teachers to coach him
and make him better.
(16:02):
Just like I would hire someoneto make me better at public
speaking, or you would hiresomeone to you know show you
something in cattle, or someonemight hire you to say what could
we do to make sure these cattlejudge better?
And you give them points andtips.
But yeah, he was he is veryinteresting.
I don't know that there's anyonelike him.
And uh I've really since maybe aweek or two after he passed, I
(16:22):
kind of just just got away fromit.
Like people are like, oh, watchthis video, watch this.
I'm like, you know what?
I'm I'm gonna go on with my lifenow.
Like, I can't get dragged intothis weirdness of who did what
or what's going on here.
But it's definitely interesting,and I did it's got me thinking.
It's got me thinking a lot.
And so when I spoke to you a fewweeks ago and I said, Jed, what
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did you think of Charlie Kirk?
And you're like, well, yeah, uh,you know, it's interesting.
I watched him speak a few monthsago, and you were you actually
at the college where theassassination happened, judging?
SPEAKER_00 (16:54):
I was not far from there.
I was in Salt Lake, so I think Iwould have been 20, 30 minutes
away from there.
But yeah, it was just I had aflight out, like I think within
20 or 48 hours of when ithappened.
So yeah, it's like I got back toOklahoma State and yeah, got the
news of like the class I wasgoing to next.
And yeah, it was it was shockingjust because I had just been
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there.
SPEAKER_01 (17:17):
Yeah, that's that's weird.
Well, thank you for sharing thatstory.
I I think it's interesting.
I uh you're one of the onlyyoung people I know who are in
college.
I don't I don't know if I knowanyone who's ever seen him ever.
SPEAKER_00 (17:30):
Yeah.
I know of one or two other kidsthat like had met him at like a
meet and greet thing somewhere.
But yeah, it's yeah, I canprobably outside of my buddies
that were here with me atOklahoma State that day, the
other people, yeah, not notmany.
SPEAKER_01 (17:46):
Yeah, let me ask you this real quick before we go,
and we won't beat this aroundanymore.
And did you feel threatened atall or nervous?
Like I've been in situationswhere like you're in a bad part
of Chicago and you're like,we're in a bad neighborhood, we
need to get out of here.
That that rally or meeting orwhatever they call it, did it
was there like anger there?
SPEAKER_00 (18:03):
Could you see people are anger or hostile or there
were some people you know withlike pickets and like standing
around the outside, but kind ofnot in support, but like it
definitely it wasn't superthreatening.
And there were some jabs or someyells here or there, but I
definitely didn't feel unsafe.
The week or two after he waskilled, they did actually the
(18:27):
turning point chapter here in atOklahoma State.
They did a memoriam for him onthe same lawn, and we went to it
and on all the rooftops therewere yeah, guys in the military
with sniper rifles and such,trying to make sure that we were
all safe.
And then it really yeah, that'sprobably when it dawned on me.
(18:47):
Man, this that was dangerous andscary.
SPEAKER_01 (18:51):
Yeah, we'll see what happens.
America's by far the best placein the world to live in.
It's yeah, it's always goingthrough challenges.
All right, moving on.
We got cattle, they're movingup.
The price is going crazy.
We probably did a podcasttogether two, three months ago.
We thought cattle were high.
We got screw worm.
Have you caught the media atall?
Have you caught this young lady?
(19:12):
I like her, but boy, she thisyoung gal here, this is Brooke
Rowland, Secretary ofAgriculture.
She is stating that we are inthe golden age of agriculture.
She must be talking aboutcattle.
Is that correct?
SPEAKER_00 (19:27):
Yeah, I think that's definitely the thing that she's
pointing to towards right now,and probably the golden age for
the cattle feeder, especially,being that corn is so cheap, uh
and the best way to utilize itright now or on cattle that are
yeah, going through the roof.
I I think it's a crazy time tobe alive.
(19:47):
You talk about the old cattlefeeders that I luckily get to
talk to pretty regularly, andthey they say, well, this is
cyclical, it happens all thetime.
I don't think we've ever seen itcontinue like this for so long.
And they yeah, the yield saying,Yeah, it's the stairs up, but
it's the elevator down.
(20:08):
Uh, it'll be interesting to seeif that occurs and when it does,
if it's that drastic.
Yeah, we're in uncharted waters,that's for sure.
SPEAKER_01 (20:16):
Yeah, I uh I was on Chip Flory's show the other day
and uh the uh yesterdayactually, and I was just talking
about this this market mediacalls, and they say, uh, hey,
what's going on with cattle?
And my response is the market'sopen.
The media call and they'll say,Hey, why are uh cattle up?
(20:37):
I'm like, because the market'sopen, and they're like, no,
seriously.
I'm like, no, I'm being serious,markets open, that's what
happens.
Market opens, cattle go up.
We all look at each other andsay, Why didn't we buy them?
Right.
A couple things.
This little son of a biscuit hadsomething to do with it.
Explain to me, us, thelisteners, some people are
watching this, some people arelistening on Spotify and Apple.
(21:00):
By the way, if you are, thankyou.
And uh click like and subscribe.
How do you explain screw worm tothe modern day housewife,
houseman who doesn't understandit?
And if and when they say screwworm is in the United States,
should we be panicked?
Mr.
Jed Sidwell, stage is yours,sir.
SPEAKER_00 (21:17):
Yeah, so the screw worm isn't just a new thing.
We've had it in the U.S.
before.
We had a big breakout in the1970s when the screw worm came
in, but it's not something thatthe American consumer needs to
be terrified of.
It's just like any otherburrowing insect, uh it bites
the cattle, lays its eggs forthere there to hatch.
(21:39):
I mean, what it looks for is awound or opening of some sort.
So you see it oftentimes incattle around dehorning,
castration, branding, thingslike that, where the skin might
be opened, but it's notsomething completely foreign.
We've had it before.
My family, yeah, brand ourcattle every single year, and at
that time we apply screw wormspray, and I think we have been
(22:03):
since aerosol screw worm sprayhas been invented.
It's obviously something we wantto be conscious about as like
stockmen that care about thewell-being and health of our
livestock.
It's not something we want, andit's not something we're just
completely uh not worried about,but I don't think we need to be
scared about it.
The summer when I was at Nesbik,Texas Tech did a big Zoom
(22:25):
seminar over the history of thescrew worm.
That's where I got some of thisfrom.
And I think the quote I pulledfrom it is that it's not going
to be a big wave of locustscoming over the border when it
happens.
It's gonna be some casesthroughout the United States
where some cattle get infected,but it doesn't immediately just
kill cattle, it has to developand burrow and have a large
(22:47):
infestation for that to happen.
And as the old saying goes, uhthat maybe your baseball coach
told you, uh it's a long waysfrom the heart.
It would, yeah.
I don't think the implicationsuh in terms of cattle morality
are going to be that high.
But obviously, in this day ofage of trading, where a lot of
our trading information comesfrom the news and the media, uh,
(23:10):
it's something that they canplug that uh causes uh the
markets to do kind of some crazythings like we've seen.
SPEAKER_01 (23:16):
Yeah, I imagine it'll be uh if they were to
announce it that hey, it's here,we're gonna have an emergency
meeting.
It it would definitely move themarkets.
I don't know how much for howlong would someone not go to
Costco and buy beef because ofto me, it it would be maybe I'm
not thinking of it right, but mylittle dogs, they get ticks on
(23:38):
them all the time.
We don't freak out that a doghas ticks or could get a tick.
We put tick collars on them,tick spray, and sometimes even
with that, they still get atick, right?
You look and you're like, what'sthat bump?
There's a tick.
We we address it, right?
Could it hurt them?
Could it kill them?
Yeah, if it like bites them inthe head or does something, or
if you get Lyme's disease, butit's it's the dog's problem, the
(23:59):
animal's problem.
I don't think it's the human'sproblem, correct?
SPEAKER_00 (24:02):
No, no, it's yeah, like you're saying with the
ticks, it's not something wejust want to bury our head in
the sand and say it's not gonnahappen.
Um, but it's not something wejust need to say the sky's
falling and be completelyworried about as well.
I think the one thing that weprobably take for granted as
Americans, the United States,and the food system that we
(24:22):
have, we have the best resourceswhen it comes to animal health
products.
Like, I mean, every cattleproducer has direct access to
Dectamax, permethrin,ivermectin.
I mean, shoot, even there'sthese things called cattle socks
where you can put out in yourpasture and fill them with
pesticides that your cattle cango and rub on.
(24:43):
And we have the greatest animalhealth resources compared to
most countries.
Our animal working facilitiesare great.
And I think that's probably thedifference between us and these
Central American countries thatit's hitting right now.
Our animal infrastructure is somuch higher that it's not gonna
have just this drastic effect onus.
(25:04):
We're gonna have an ability tofight it off pretty well.
SPEAKER_01 (25:07):
Absolutely.
And when it if and when ithappens, you know who's gonna
come out with videos andresources to help you do all
this stuff.
Jed, you know, as you know, wehave premium content.
This is a lot of the reasonwe're gearing up to do these
videos.
Super excited.
If you're watching or listening,go to www.agbull.com.
(25:28):
This episode's free becauseJed's so awesome.
We would never hold them down orcharge you to see them.
But if you're interested ineducational videos, text on
actionable alerts, cash salealerts, morning research,
afternoon research, and videosthat truly help you be a better
marketer of grain.
And of course, we have somecattle experts at our office too
(25:50):
doing that video fat Tuesday,etc.
That is premium$25 a month,$250annually.
That's probably the biggest plugI've ever done with that.
But the reason I do that isbecause you were the one who
were helping me gear up theoffice and the uh podcast studio
and everything else.
And I can't tell you how awesomeyou look in that podcast studio.
How many people can podcaststudio there at Oklahoma?
SPEAKER_00 (26:12):
There's two rooms here, and this room here has
four mics, and I think you canrent out a couple more.
Yeah, yeah.
You just have to go on yourstudent account and book a time,
and it's free for you to do freefor you to use.
It's actually pretty damn easy.
SPEAKER_01 (26:28):
And and the thing is, like, I'm not gonna edit
this video at all.
So, folks, what you're watching,what you're listening, what
you're seeing, it's not likeit's not like we did anything to
it.
This is just us talking.
I think people like listening topeople talk.
What do you think?
SPEAKER_00 (26:39):
Yeah, I think it's just genuine and wholesome to a
point as well.
SPEAKER_01 (26:44):
Speaking of genuine and wholesome, lightning round,
I'm gonna ask you somequestions.
What type of podcast does ayoungster like you from Oklahoma
State listen to, if you havetime?
SPEAKER_00 (26:52):
Oh man, there's a bunch.
Well, of course, to listen toAgvil Media, had to plug that in
there.
SPEAKER_01 (26:57):
Ring the bell.
Hold on, we got bells.
Hold on, I'll ring it.
Hold on.
If you want to get a hold of us,folks, give us a call.
1855-737-Farm.
Right there, you ring the bell.
Go ahead, continue.
Podcast, yeah.
SPEAKER_00 (27:12):
Uh, I've been on another podcast with Top Judge.
I'm a member of that program.
SPEAKER_01 (27:17):
Oh, do tell, do tell what's that all about?
SPEAKER_00 (27:19):
I actually recorded one for them in this room here.
They uh it's a group of uh kindof seasoned livestock judges
from throughout the country thathave judged all the major
national shows, have cometogether together, found a bunch
of sponsors to get in contactwith college graduates like
myself and uh kids at otheruniversities that went through
(27:41):
collegiate livestock judging totry and find the next generation
of livestock evaluators to kindof try and make sure we're
moving in a positive directionas an industry.
So, yeah, they have funpodcasts.
You can go to listen to them atTop Judge.
The the uh podcast, I guess, iscalled The Sort.
SPEAKER_01 (27:58):
Do you remember what episode you were?
What episode number, anythingelse, or is it just name?
SPEAKER_00 (28:02):
I was on I was I think in the first 10 episodes I
was on.
SPEAKER_01 (28:05):
So very cool.
I'm sure if they just Googleyour name, Jed Sidwell, and it's
called Top Judge?
SPEAKER_00 (28:10):
Yeah, the sort, and then Jed Sidwell I'd pop up on
there.
Uh it's a great podcast ifyou're interested into the uh
livestock judging and showingthing like myself.
Just for fun, I don't know.
I like to listen to I I listento Rogan.
I was a wrestler back in highschool when he gets on some of
those MMA fighters and wrestlersand things like that.
(28:31):
And he's a big jujitsu guy, so Ilike listening to that.
That's pretty fun.
SPEAKER_01 (28:35):
Yeah, jujitsu.
All right, I'm gonna let you uhfinish this up.
I'm not gonna pop back in, butfolks, my name is Tommy Gersafi.
We have Jed Sidwell on.
He's gonna close the show withsome really great reasons to be
optimistic about uh cattle andbeing in agriculture.
When you get done, I'll play theclosing, but I'm gonna let you
close there, Mr.
Podcaster from Oklahoma StateUniversity, Jed Sidwell.
SPEAKER_00 (28:58):
Yeah, I think we are in uncharted water waters, like
I said earlier, but it's a funtime to be in agriculture.
And I think another reason to beso positive and call it the
golden age is right now we havethe greatest opportunity to be
in direct contact with theconsumer, which is something we
haven't had in the past.
(29:20):
So yeah, it's a really, reallygood time to be in agriculture.
Uh, you can learn more,obviously, at AgBull Media.
Uh, you can find me on all mysocial media platforms at Jed
Sidwell.
Yeah.
Go Pokes and go AgBull Media.
SPEAKER_01 (29:36):
You the man, Jedstars.
I'll see you soon.
SPEAKER_00 (29:39):
Talk to you later, Tommy.
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