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August 11, 2025 48 mins

Dr. Mark van Rijmenam is ranked as the world's best futurists and is known globally for his trademark “Optimistic Dystopian” viewpoint. Recognized by Salesforce as a top voice shaping the future of AI, he’s a sought-after speaker on the relationship between innovation and humanity. He delivered the world’s first TEDx Talk in VR (2020) and introduced a digital twin that speaks 29 languages (2024). Mark holds a PhD in Management from the University of Technology Sydney, where he studied how organizations can use big data, blockchain, and AI. He’s also a six-time author and dedicated endurance athlete.

In this conversation, we discuss:

  • Why Dr. Mark van Rijmenam believes we need a paradigm shift to prepare society for the long-term consequences of AI and quantum computing
  • The critical difference between building technology for shareholders versus stakeholders and how that shapes our future
  • What the “spiral dynamics” framework reveals about humanity’s current worldview and its path toward a more interconnected mindset
  • How banning technology for kids under 16 could protect future generations and reshape digital education
  • The risks of anthropomorphizing AI and the need to preserve human agency in a world increasingly shaped by machines
  • What inspired Dr. Mark’s sixth book Now What? and how he uses fiction, philosophy, and global cultures to help readers ride the tsunami of change

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