April 13, 2025 • 59 mins
Ever had that boss who calls from five doors down instead of walking to your office? Or that friend who swears they'll support your podcast but never actually listens? You're not alone.
In this unfiltered conversation, we unpack the everyday annoyances that quietly drive us crazy. From workplace micromanagers who expect mind-reading abilities to friends who make empty promises of support, we explore how these small frustrations reveal deeper truths about human connection and expectations.
The discussion takes unexpected turns as we examine how cultural backgrounds shape our pet peeves around resource conservation—like washing plastic bags or turning off lights—and how our reactions to art reveal more about ourselves than the artwork. When one host admits their frustration with people criticizing films without appreciating the creative effort involved, it sparks a thoughtful reflection on respecting creative processes even when the result isn't to our taste.
Most poignantly, the conversation expands into societal failings around homelessness and poverty. Through personal anecdotes and hypothetical scenarios, we challenge prevailing narratives about why people become unhoused, reminding listeners that in a country of such abundance, no one should lack basic necessities like shelter or electricity.
What begins as lighthearted venting evolves into a profound exploration of human compassion, cultural differences, and the values that shape our daily interactions. Whether you're nodding along in agreement or questioning your own pet peeves, this episode invites you to look beyond irritations to the human connections beneath them.
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Cynthia Lopez (00:06):
Hi everybody, welcome to All that Joy.
Carmen Lezeth (00:09):
Hello, the private lounge.
We're over here like 10 minutesinto a conversation.
Hey, Cynthia's in the house howyou guys doing.
Doing, good Doing good, allright, you guys are going to
keep being chatty, right, likeyou just were.
Cynthia Lopez (00:27):
I wanted to talk a little bit about pet peeves,
which might go into some of whatwe were talking about earlier
today with work, I got a wholelot.
Carmen Lezeth (00:37):
Oh no, cynthia did her homework.
I sure did Start with you, Gaia.
Cynthia Lopez (00:44):
Oh, pet peeves, when are we starting?
Go ahead, oh, pet peeves, whereare we starting From work, work
, work, pet peeves.
Carmen Lezeth (00:49):
We can just start with all the pet peeves that
mother.
Cynthia, let's start with work.
Let's start with work.
Cynthia Lopez (00:56):
Let's see what do I have here.
Work, oh, micromanaging.
I hate micromanaging, but theworst part about it is when they
do it over the phone and can'teven get up from their desk to
walk five doors down to youroffice to talk to you.
They call you.
(01:16):
Did you do this?
Oh, what about this?
How about that, knowing youalready did it I know.
Carmen Lezeth (01:26):
Yeah, I hate micromanaging as well and I try
not to do it.
Cynthia Lopez (01:31):
but yeah, I, my clients do that to me all the
time, michael but in mysituation it's like we went from
having two employees in myoffice me and the other woman
doing all this work and now it'sjust me.
For the past what month now?
And it's like in a month youhaven't even tried to come and
help me or find me any help, butyou're going to micromanage me,
(01:53):
knowing I'm doing everythingcorrectly, because the doctor is
aware I'm doing everythingcorrectly and is very pleased
with my work.
I'm sorry.
Rick Costa (02:03):
I'm sorry.
Just today I get a call fromthe hefe and he's like what
about this order?
And I'm like what order?
Please enlighten me.
He always never gives me allthe details so I can figure out
what are you talking about.
Or he'll be like looking atsomething.
He's like did you take care ofthis guy?
(02:23):
And I'm like who, what?
And it might not have beentoday.
I'm like, give me a second tofigure out what you're talking
about.
Since you ain't gonna tell me,I gotta figure it out and you're
wasting time mind reading.
Carmen Lezeth (02:35):
That's a whole other one.
So for this, micromanaging islike you're supposed to be a
mind reader with thesemotherfuckers.
Rick Costa (02:41):
My clients do that all the time so like well, did
you tell the shipping guy aboutthis?
How's it supposed to ship?
And I was like yeah, I sent hima message on Teams.
Go look, oh, okay, yeah, yeah.
Well, make sure you stay on topof this.
Okay, I'm like now you feelstupid, so you have nothing to
say, just stay on top of it.
Carmen Lezeth (02:59):
I can't stand that.
I can't stand that.
My thing is is the mind reading, though, Like one of my clients
will be like um, Carmen, uh,that report that we talked about
.
This man is constantly withmotherfucking reports.
Like every five minutes it's anew report he needs and then
I'll be like I'll, I'll get toit, it's on the list.
(03:20):
I always say it's on the listCause the list is, like you know
, 35 things long.
And then like randomly out ofnowhere, like I'll be walking by
to go to the bathroom orsomething, and he'll just ask me
and I'm supposed to knock topmy head not only which report
that he's talking about, butwhatever numbers.
And I'm not that person.
Everybody knows I am notsomebody who retains shit in my
(03:41):
head, especially shit that don'tmatter to me in my life, Like I
don't care about your business,I work for you, but I need to
go look it up.
I'm not retaining that shit.
He gets so mad.
Rick Costa (03:54):
There's another thing he calls yesterday.
He goes about.
A month ago I told you to gothrough.
It's our biggest customer andthere's a lot of old credit
cards in there and it doesn't.
We can't see the credit cardnumber, except for the last four
numbers and the expiration.
So it's like you know I ain'tgonna see that part, but it's
like there's so many old ones inthere.
Can you go through that today?
And I'm like today, how many isin there since 2019?
(04:18):
Okay, so I did.
I spent like literally half theday doing it, and then the next
day I'm going to lie.
I forgot about it.
Plus, it's not a huge priority.
There's nothing customer-wiseneeded to do right now.
Right, well, I see a wholebunch of them still in here.
Did you ever do it?
I was like I spent half the daydoing it, and so then I was
like, let me see if I can finishit now.
(04:39):
It it was maybe like 15 left togo out of 300, maybe.
I'm like what the heck?
Carmen Lezeth (04:47):
It's never good enough.
It's never good enough.
What about unnecessary meetings?
We have those all the time.
Meetings that can be 15 minuteslike should just be 15 minutes.
Yep minutes like should just be15 minutes.
Cynthia Lopez (05:04):
Yep, and it shouldn't be a powerpoint
presentation where they're justreading what's on the screen so
that you could just send it tome in an email.
I can print it out if I need itand I can read it myself.
Carmen Lezeth (05:18):
Yeah, for sure.
I think that's a big, a big one, a big waste of time that
people do.
I think that's a power thing,yeah.
Cynthia Lopez (05:28):
I need everyone.
They're so monotone.
If they're so monotone and I'mthere like falling asleep and
I'm just like, oh my God, ifyou're not excited about this,
how can I be?
Carmen Lezeth (05:40):
Okay, that's just wrong.
But I think it's a, it's like apower thing where people are
like you know, oh, we have tohave a meeting, let's sit down,
let's have, let's uh schedule mesomething.
And, like I always see, one ofmy clients is always telling
their assistant uh, schedule mesomething, just fit it in, fit
it in.
And I'm like bitch, we don'tneed to have no conversation
with him, it's all good, he cancall me tomorrow between nine
(06:02):
and ten and I can tell himeverything he need to know.
You know what I mean.
Like there is no need.
Or I can just walk over thereright now, tell him while he's
sitting there doing nothing, andtell him we don't need to get
25 people together.
It is annoying.
Rick Costa (06:15):
The unnecessary meetings are used to do that,
but of course I work from home,so he would just put it on
speakerphone and they'd havetheir meeting.
Like I barely hear what they'resaying because they're probably
not even near the phone, andI'm like, okay, listening for
something pertinent.
Carmen Lezeth (06:33):
To me.
That's a big reason for whypeople want people back in the
office, though, too, I dobelieve there is something
beneficial to having people inthe office, but I think it has
to be a hybrid situation, if itcan be at this point in time.
I mean, your job's a little bitdifferent, cynthia, because you
work in pathology and there aremedical fields and you know
(06:54):
like you can't do constructionfrom home.
You know what I mean.
If you work in the constructionfield or whatever, you probably
have to do that on site.
I'm just saying, but there aresome jobs that can be done on a
hybrid situation.
But I do think part of thecreative process, especially
when you're with a team ofpeople, is very different than
when you're on a Zoom call.
I think our energy would bereally cool if we were in person
(07:16):
or not.
We might actually hate eachother.
You know what I mean.
I know right.
What about pet peeves you havewith friends?
Everyone here, included, ofcourse, everyone here.
Like, what is your pet peevewith Mario and Alma?
(07:37):
No, just in general, do youguys have pet peeves With some
of your friends?
Cynthia Lopez (07:50):
When they don't.
Two of them One, when theydon't listen, like they'll come
to you with all their issues andwant you to listen and give
them all the advice, but whenit's your turn, oh, I'm too busy
or I gotta do this or, you know, they just don't have time to
listen to your drama.
And the other one is knowing,knowing your audience, like, for
(08:12):
instance, if they're yourfriends, they should know what
type of music you listen to.
Right, and let's say they'regoing to a concert and it's a
genre that you just don't likeif it's a country, country music
which we all know I love, why?
and I say, carmen, I havetickets, let's go to the country
, a country thing and you saythat right, and you and you say
(08:38):
no, right, and then I never askyou again to go to any other
type of concert.
It's's like if you know I don'tlike that, why invite me to
that?
But then, once that I do likeyou don't invite me to, right,
you know so.
Rick Costa (08:55):
Speaking of listening, like a pet peeve of
mine is.
So let's say I said to myfriend I'm Marco Polo, Cause I
like that video thing, you couldjust record it and they watch
whenever at their convenience,and back and forth.
And I'd be like I'll say, oh,my mom had to go to the hospital
for some.
Make an example, I'm going togo to the hospital.
(09:16):
He's not fully listening.
And then he'll come back and belike oh, I'm sorry, your mom
got the sniffles.
I'm like I said she went to thehospital.
Carmen Lezeth (09:28):
What is wrong with you?
You're not listening clearly.
Yeah that's attention For thosepeople who don't know what
Marco Polo is, because I swearto God, rick, you're the only
person I know who uses MarcoPolo.
It's like WhatsApp or Signal,which is you can just leave a
voice note or you can leave avideo message and then somebody
can answer you back at their ownconvenience.
I've never heard of Marco Polountil Rick said it, and I've
(09:49):
never heard anyone else talkabout it.
I think it's your own secretapp.
I think, one of my pet peeveswith my friends.
First of all, I don't think Ihave that many friends.
I have a lot more acquaintancesthan I do friends, but that's a
whole other conversation.
But I'll say this I think a lotof people mean well, but they
(10:12):
don't follow through.
So a lot of my friends, or alot of acquaintances, will say
things like no, I got you, Isupport you, I'm a subscribe to
your sub stack.
Like I got you, carmen, I'llsubscribe to your YouTube or
whatever it is.
I support you a hundred percent.
But then they don't do it.
And then what's worse is you doit again and they don't do it.
(10:33):
And it's like you don't have tosupport my stuff.
But also, don't kiss my ass infront of me.
You know what I mean, becauseI'll tell you what I'm not going
to support your shit.
If I don't want to support yourshit, I'm not.
I'm not going to lie to youabout it.
Like I'm trying to think who isit that I recently said?
Well, you know what.
(10:53):
I'll use an example here.
This isn't what I was thinkingof.
But, rick, you and I, we getalong on so many levels, but one
of the things I don't really dois and you know I am supporting
you right now because I'm apromote, rick Costacom but you
have a whole religious kind ofthing that you do on an everyday
, but it's just not my thing.
So I'm not going to pretend andbe like I got you.
(11:15):
I'm going to support you,whatever right.
You know how I feel about itNow.
I support you as a person andin your creativity, and I
support you because I knowyou're not doing no harm to
nobody.
You know what I mean and so.
But you see what I'm saying,right, like there's no lies
between us.
But people will continuously belike yes, I will support
(11:35):
everything you do, Carmen, andI'm like so how come you're not
on our YouTube channel?
All about the joy.
How come you don't listen toour podcast?
Rick Costa (11:47):
I learned this when I was on the periscope days.
Public service announcement ifyou go do stuff online, your
friends and family will not bethere.
But why?
It's crazy like if they did itI would.
Carmen Lezeth (11:59):
But unless I didn't agree with it, 100 like I
come and visit your show.
I just want for the, for thelistening.
I do come and visit your showand I do listen once in a while.
You know that because I'll comein and say hi, especially when
you do the games, because I likethat part.
But yeah, then why say thatyou're going to support someone
100% if you're not going to?
Yeah, exactly.
Rick Costa (12:22):
That's annoying.
Cynthia Lopez (12:28):
I feel like Cynthia's being very quiet
because she's one of thosepeople who says she's going to
support stuff.
Is that what's happening?
No, no, no.
Another thing I don't like andthis is just a general thing is
like with anybody friends,family, whoever is if you go out
to dinner, you go to the moviesor whatever, they're just on
the phone, always on their phone.
But then when you say, oh, didyou get my text?
(12:50):
No, I never got it, really,because you're always on your
phone you know what?
Carmen Lezeth (12:55):
I love Andrea with all my heart, but she does
that shit all the time.
I'll be like did you get myemail or my text?
And she'll be like oh, I'vebeen so busy.
But when we go out to dinnershe is one of those people who's
like one second.
I'm like do I have a different?
Like is there some notificationsound?
That's like it's just Carmen.
Ignore that shit.
Here goes the spam.
I love her with all my heartbut I'm like, okay, you just
(13:20):
ignored me because you know I'mgood, like whatever, but she
does that shit all the time.
I thought you were gonna saysomething else.
I can't stand when you go outwith quote-unquote family and
friends to dinner and we allabout to eat, and then people be
all cheap and shit, like do notgo out with me and start
splitting that fucking billbased on like um, I only had
(13:44):
water and a salad.
Like don't come to eat with methen don't.
You know what I mean?
Like I don't mind splitting thebill if that's the agreement we
had at the beginning, but Icannot stand cheap people.
I can't stand it, and if wedon't go eat, we're gonna go eat
.
Don't come and eat, no waterand salad, because you can't
just say you can't afford it,then I'll pay the shit.
(14:05):
Do you know what I mean?
Like I, okay, you know how I amsomething when it comes to food
.
So wait, do you guys, when youguys go out to eat, do you guys
normally split the bill, or whatdo you do, because maybe I'm
out of touch with things?
I don't know you, okay, but doyou split it, like based on what
you ate, or do you?
(14:27):
No, evenly?
Cynthia Lopez (14:28):
Just if there's four of us, I split it between
the four of us, okay.
Carmen Lezeth (14:32):
Right, I usually will pick up the bill.
I will.
I usually will just pick up thebill If I'm going out to eat,
like, and I said, let's go outto eat because I like to eat.
But yeah, rick, to eat becauseI like to eat.
But yeah, rick, what's yourflavor when it comes to food?
I know you don't go out to eata lot, but Right, right, right.
Rick Costa (14:49):
I mean as far as the bill like.
As soon as they come and startasking us what you want, I
immediately say how are wepaying for this?
Carmen Lezeth (14:58):
Oh, no, okay.
Rick Costa (15:00):
Because some people they'll be like lobster shrimp
several cups of wine.
I'm like, okay, I'm a littlebit hungry, but I, what are you
doing?
Carmen Lezeth (15:11):
okay, okay, okay.
I just want to be clear rightnow, rick, if we ever going out
to eat like when we all gettogether at our studio, wherever
and you, you know what I meanwe're doing our in-studio
podcast, live stream or whateverand we go out to eat, you will
not say that I got you.
Okay, I will pay for it.
Cynthia Lopez (15:28):
Okay, we're not going to be ghetto Me and Carmen
will already have talked aboutit.
We'll be like if I got it oryou got it, I know, and we'll
deal with it.
After We'll deal with it.
Carmen Lezeth (15:40):
Cause I don't look at I grew up poor.
I mean, I guess we all kind ofdid, but I grew up poor and I
think what I don't like is thestigma that comes with that and
it's also, I think, being awoman of color who grew up poor.
There's also this thing like Idon't want you to ever believe
in one any way, shape or form,that I am cheap, All the
(16:01):
stereotypes that you think aboutpoor people and I do think
that's where it comes from.
I will stand on whatever it isthat I have to in order to make
sure you understand that I amnot cheap, like, and if that
means I can't go out to dinnerwith you cause I can't afford it
, I'm going to tell you straightup.
You know what.
I can't afford it today, buthave a lovely time, but I'm sure
(16:22):
as hell not going to go todinner and then be like today.
But have a lovely time, but I'msure as hell not gonna go to
dinner and then be like um, um,can I just have a water?
Rick Costa (16:32):
no, no I think in my case, because there's certain
family members that will takeadvantage of that, and they will
every time, and they alreadyknow their cheap period in life
and they will order $40, $50worth of food, knowing they're
only going to have to pay $20.
Carmen Lezeth (16:51):
Okay, but why would you go?
Okay.
So this is where you and I aredifferent, and I think Cynthia
is the same way.
Why would you go out to dinnerwith them again, like, show me
once.
Rick Costa (17:00):
Family.
Thing.
Oh yeah, I know.
Carmen Lezeth (17:04):
We could be family, but we ain't going to
dinner Like Cynthia.
Cynthia Lopez (17:07):
You could always.
But Rick, you can always say,like, if you guys do that dinner
again, say to the waiter, canmy check be separate?
Yeah, I've done that.
Carmen Lezeth (17:18):
You can do separate checks.
That's cool too.
I'm going to go to the bathroom.
Rick Costa (17:21):
I'll be right back.
Hey, bro, right.
Carmen Lezeth (17:22):
Oh, I'll be right back.
Hey, brooke, right, oh yeah,but Cynthia, you know there are
people I will not go to dinnerwith.
I will not go to dinner withpeople.
Cynthia knows who they are.
I will not go to dinner withcertain people.
You showed me once who you is.
We done, yep, not doing it.
Oh, that's interesting.
(17:43):
What else?
Other things with family?
I was talking about, um, justthings that I remember growing
up, kind of uh, it wasn't my petpeeve, but I would get yelled
at if I didn't take the lightsoff.
You know what I mean.
Like, I remember that was likea and so now I have a habit of
doing that, to the extent thatone of the people I work with
the other day, she's like everytime you leave my office, you
(18:04):
turn the lights off and I'm likeI'm sorry, I think no matter
where I am, I'm always takingoff lights.
So she, actually she, she wasright, cause she'll just go to
the bathroom and then I'll begetting up to leave, like, cause
I'm, I'm not there all day.
You know what I mean.
I visit my client and I'll getmy bags up and I'll just turn
off the lights and lock and shutthe door and she'll come back
(18:25):
from the bathroom and like whatare you doing?
It is her office, I'm justvisiting.
Cynthia Lopez (18:32):
Oh my God, I'm the same way.
I hate it.
So one has a tendency ofleaving the light on in the
bathroom, and it drives me crazy.
Oh yeah, no.
Oh my God, it drives me.
It drives me crazy.
Oh yeah, no.
Oh my God, it drives me up thewall.
Carmen Lezeth (18:47):
Okay, we're the problem, we're the problem.
You know what I mean.
Like, I am the problem, I amthe drama, I'm the drama.
Rick Costa (18:56):
In my case, it used to be mom that did that, and now
we've reverted.
Now I'm the one that's like whyis this on?
Why are you going to leave thisTV on in your bedroom?
You ain't going to be in yourbedroom until tonight.
Why are you doing that?
But Portuguese people, firstgeneration Portuguese people, we
are very interesting because wesay things that drive Americans
crazy, like open, close thelights.
(19:17):
Can you open the light?
Can you close the light?
And everybody's like really,open the light?
Oh, because it's thetranslation.
Like because in portuguese youdo say it that way, but in
english you don't.
That doesn't make sense.
To turn on or turn off, youdon't open and close the light.
So it's like a funny thing withus.
Carmen Lezeth (19:34):
I think it happens too, though, because I
think, but also because she'spolish, she's from poland, she
has some of those word changesas well, because it's you're
directly translating instead ofis it idioms or whatever.
You know, there are all theseidioms in certain languages.
Yeah, that's funny.
Turn open the light.
Is that what you say?
(19:55):
Oh, you say open the light.
Rick Costa (19:56):
Open or close the light, yeah.
Carmen Lezeth (19:58):
Oh my God, that's funny.
All right, pet peeves inrelationships, let's get down
and dirty.
Okay, all right, I'll make iteasy With friends, with friends
with friends.
Rick Costa (20:12):
I mean, it could be similar, you know.
Carmen Lezeth (20:14):
Friends or lovers ?
What is your pet peeve withJuan?
Let's just talk about Juan.
Cynthia Lopez (20:20):
Let's see the light switch.
No, don't talk about wine.
Carmen Lezeth (20:32):
No.
What are pet peeves, though,with anything like relationships
, friends?
Cynthia Lopez (20:39):
this might sound weird, right, but like if I'm
hosting a dinner in my house,like for Thanksgiving, let's say
and you know I've never beeninvited to, but go ahead.
Oh hush Um.
And let's say you know I wantto clean up or everyone's, you
know putting their dishes away,whatever, and somebody starts
(20:59):
cleaning my kitchen and startswashing the dishes.
Rick Costa (21:03):
I don't like that.
Cynthia Lopez (21:04):
I know that they're trying to help me, but
it's like I want to do thatLeave it alone.
Carmen Lezeth (21:10):
Enjoy the time that's you being anal.
That's not being about me.
Rick Costa (21:16):
I love it.
Go clean my bathroom too, whileyou're at it.
Carmen Lezeth (21:21):
High five, baby, don't leave me hanging Bitch
clean, go ahead.
High five, baby, don't leave mehanging right, bitch clean, go
ahead.
No, no, I I hear you, buthere's the thing.
I think again not to bebringing up andrea.
I think mia's, oh, mia too, miaand andrea, they're all the
same way.
But you have to tell peoplebecause from my point of view,
especially when I went to like Iused to always go to Mia's in
(21:43):
New York, right In Pennsylvania,to go for Thanksgiving and I
mean, and her husband would payfor my first class flight out
there and hotel, so I didn'thave to stay with them with
their children, like that's howsweet they were.
So you think I'm going to walkinto her house and eat and not
be like how can I clean and help.
Think I'm going to walk intoher house and eat and not be
like how can I clean and help?
(22:04):
I know it was such a kindnessthat they were making sure I was
with them and they were and hewas paying.
So you want to help.
But you know, at one point Miawas like it's all good, carmen,
just go relax.
You feel me.
And I was like she tried tospin it like I'm family, but
she's like bitch, get the hellout my kitchen is what I was
hearing.
That was the subtext.
Cynthia Lopez (22:26):
But it's funny though, because when I do go to
other people's houses, I alwayswant to help them clean up.
Yeah, it's a weird thing.
Carmen Lezeth (22:33):
How come you don't just tell people?
You should just tell them.
I know now.
Cynthia Lopez (22:39):
I tell them, just leave it there.
And they're like no, no, no,it's fine, I'm like oh, you're
talking about Teresa huh, no, Ijust.
What are you talking about?
You're talking about Teresa.
Oh no, I have my pet peeveswith her.
Yeah, okay.
Carmen Lezeth (22:54):
Again, we're not talking about individual people
in a negative way.
Teresa, no, no, what are yourpet peeves?
But?
Teresa's always kind that way.
No, no, what are your petpeeves, but?
But?
Cynthia Lopez (23:05):
she's always kind that way.
She always wants to clean.
Yeah, yeah, yeah, no, my it's.
It's funny.
It's a funny thing that I havewith her a pet peeve is that she
always wants to save papertowels, like she'll reuse the
paper towels.
She doesn't want to waste themand I'm like throw it away yeah,
okay, yeah, yeah, that's that's.
Carmen Lezeth (23:24):
That's.
That's a weird ism, but I thinkthat's from culture, that's
from growing up poor in hondurasand wanting to save everything.
Like you know, I have somebodywho saves plastic bags, so, like
, let's say, you put um, you putI don't know, like whatever,
you put nuts.
I forget what I had.
Like cas, I had like cashews ina, in a baggie, like a sandwich
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bag or whatever, because youknow, the box was this big and
there was only so I put them ina sandwich bag or whatever.
And so when we were finishedeating I think it was cashews or
something, we're finishing thecashews I went to go throw the
thing, I put it on the counterand the next, like the next
minute later, she, she was inthere and I'm just saying who it
is washing out the plasticsandwich bag like a Ziploc
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sandwich bag, putting it insideout and then putting it in the
rack for it to dry so I can useit again.
She's like it was just nuts andI'm like, yeah, but they were
in, I don't know.
They're like she's right, she'sright, but you throw it out.
Here in the united states wewaste a lot but they're not
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wrong.
But I still can't, I can't likewouldn't you?
Cynthia Lopez (24:40):
guys throw it away I would throw it away, juan
would save it.
Carmen Lezeth (24:45):
Oh really, he would, because it was just nuts,
it was just cashews.
Cynthia Lopez (24:51):
Yeah, and I'm always there throwing it away.
Carmen Lezeth (24:55):
Yeah, that Paper towels is hard though, because
that's wet and you and it'sdirty, oh, but it's drying it,
it's drying yeah.
Rick Costa (25:07):
I'll never forget watching Oprah one time.
Look at Rick's face.
I guess the show was aboutcheap people and there was a guy
that he would take the toilet,roll the entire thing and split
it if it was a two-ply.
Oh stop it and he put it up andOprah's like but wouldn't you
just double it up anyway?
Isn't that a stupid waste oftime?
Carmen Lezeth (25:28):
Right, that's crazy.
Right, because you could justtake one little piece of the two
ply.
Right, we're going down a wholeother road.
I don't want to, but here's thething I'm going to just say,
because I do want to defendpeople.
I actually the people I'mtalking about.
I don't think it's about beingcheap, because Teresa is not
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cheap no, she's not, she's notcheap at all but it's about
culture, it's about growing upand learning that.
And here's the thing.
You know what the truth is.
I mean, we all would throw itaway with the cashews.
Right, I had cashews in the bag, but she's not wrong, and this
wasn't Teresa, this was somebodyelse.
(26:10):
They're not wrong.
It was just cash.
You could save it and use itfor something else.
Cynthia Lopez (26:15):
But I think because as Americans, we don't
really recycle in that way andwe really were not thoughtful in
that way- yeah, there was, wasactually there was a meme saying
you know, um, it was, and itwas about latinos, latinos
saving the planet.
One paper towel or a t-shirt ata time, and you see them saving
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the paper towel, saving theplastic bag, using an old
t-shirt as a mop, yeah.
Or like to clean the furnitureand stuff like that, which is
what we used to do as kids, yeah, and you just wash it and reuse
it.
Carmen Lezeth (26:48):
Well, a t-shirt is better to clean anyway.
People don't understand that.
For the like I, I'm going to becareful what I say when my home
is clean.
That's actually what they'reusing they because it's old
school, but it's better becauseit picks up all the dust better
and everything too.
So that's that's also smart.
But it's better because itpicks up all the dust better and
everything too.
(27:08):
So that's also smart.
But yeah, it's true, I thinkthere's a lot of things.
I think we waste a lot asAmericans, but we also, you know
and I'm saying this as anAmerican myself we're also not
that smart because those thingsactually work.
I did not know we were going togo down this avenue, basically
dissing all Americans and how wefunction in society.
(27:30):
Sorry.
Rick Costa (27:32):
I thought another pet peeve we already mentioned
this with jobs is the mindreading thing, like I can't tell
you how many times withrelationship.
You should just know.
Carmen Lezeth (27:45):
Oh yeah.
Rick Costa (27:46):
But I didn't Right.
You should, yeah, but I didn'tRight.
You should know, but I didn't.
And then I have a whole bigfight about something I didn't
know, because I'm not a mindreader unless you tell me.
Carmen Lezeth (27:57):
I don't know.
Is that the difference betweenmen and women, though?
Remember that whole book, Marsvs Venus, or something, where
they talk about how mencommunicate in caves?
I don't even know.
I don't remember the book.
I did read it once, but I readand I think there were some
aspects of it.
On reading it, as a woman onthe man's side, I got it.
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It's about how to communicatewith each other.
You know and I'm actually thetype of person even though I
talk a lot, I do when I'm in arelationship and we get into a
fight and you guys know this,cause I've had little arguments
with each of you I need a minute.
I'm not going to keep fightingwith you.
I will be quiet and need to getaway for a day or so and then
(28:40):
we can get back to it.
And Cynthia, Cynthia is.
Cynthia Lopez (28:46):
What about me?
Carmen Lezeth (28:48):
You are, when we have our little.
We had, I think, one fight yeah.
Cynthia Lopez (28:55):
One argument.
Carmen Lezeth (28:56):
Was it one argument?
Do you remember?
I don't even remember what itwas about.
I don't even remember.
I don't remember.
But Cynthia gets mad, shedoesn't want to talk to you at
all, she just gets really quiet.
Rick Costa (29:08):
I took you in a little bit of a retreat mode.
The other day we were talkingabout La La Land and you were
the only one that liked it.
Cynthia Lopez (29:16):
Oh right.
Rick Costa (29:18):
He's like I hate it and Cindy's like yes.
And you're like huh.
Carmen Lezeth (29:26):
Well, here's my thing about that.
So, you're right, I do, becauseI'm not going to fight with
people and I'm certainly notgoing to fight with a majority
of people about something.
And I'm going to say this aswith and I know it's going to
get people really upset.
I know, when it comes to art, Ithink Hating something, it's
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kind of like you know we can run, I say I hate country music,
but I would never disrespect itand I would never.
I would never dismiss it ordismiss other people for hating
it.
You know what I mean Like, andI actually respect country music
.
You know as much as I canaround about hating it or
whatever, and I think that'swhat it is.
You know it's kind of, um, Idon't like when people all right
(30:11):
, I'm going to defend it thisway as well when you're on a
movie set and you see how muchwork it takes to create
something so magnificent, andthen you see something like La
La Land or whatever it is itdoesn't matter Star Trek, it
doesn't matter whatever it isyou want to, when you see how
it's made, even if it's bad, youknow how much work it took to
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do it.
And I will honestly tell you, laLa Land may not be your flavor,
but it's one of those movies orone of those moments in time
where people either love it orthey hate it.
It just is what it is.
You know what I mean and I'mjust saying respect it.
And I think that's that's whatyou felt.
There was.
A part of me was heartbroken byhearing and I know we're being
(30:58):
funny and it was funny, whateverbut it first of all, I was
shocked at that much like of allthe movies you could pick to
hate.
I was like, threw me for a loop, you know.
But I think that's kind of thething too is like for me.
I'm also.
You know I studied film incollege.
(31:18):
Uh, I, you know, y'all know Icame out here to be a I I love
film.
So there are very few filmsthat you're ever going to hear
me talk about in that negativekind of nasty way.
It would never.
I would never.
I may not like something, I maydislike it.
It may not be my genre.
It may not be something I thinkis well-made, but I would never
be that angst about it.
(31:40):
Does that make sense?
And I know you guys are beingfunny, but I you know, and the
fucking mario was hilarious.
I think I did the clip for thatright because it was so funny,
um, but yeah what?
Rick Costa (31:54):
movie was that?
Carmen Lezeth (31:54):
because we didn't say it in the clip yeah, yeah,
oh, the first clip because Iused it as a teaser, the first
clip for the, for people to comeand see the sunday show,
because that's see, I'm tryingto do.
I'm trying to do new thingstrying to do new things.
But yeah, I mean, that's kind ofa great example.
Like you know, one of myclients, you know, screamed and
(32:20):
yelled at me and two otherpeople in a meeting and
everyone's first reaction isthey think I'm going to get up
and start screaming back, or I'mgoing to, you know, and I I get
up and walked away, you know,and I'm just like when, when you
can respect me, we can have aconversation, but I'm not going
to scream back and forth withpeople.
I mean, I've done it, but youknow what I'm saying.
So, yeah, yeah, I need a minute.
Rick Costa (32:39):
I think I tend to not automatically trash
something.
I instead go to.
But what if we did it like this, and I the possibilities and
like, oh, this could be better,like this, instead of just
trashing something that'strashed, I don't like it.
My brain goes to how could wehave made it better?
Carmen Lezeth (32:56):
like, that's kind of how my brain goes to or is
it possible that it's just notyour thing.
Like I don't have to makeanything better.
Like it doesn't matter how muchyou love whatever horror movie
you love, like there is nothinggoing to make it better, except
that it's a different movie,that isn't about horror.
It's just not my thing.
(33:19):
It's also like when I go to themuseum or something and I see
you know, uh, who who is.
Is it picasso?
Is it?
Is it Picasso?
Who did all the kind of I don'tknow.
It's not just abstract, butit's like everyone's face is
like crooked, yeah, picasso.
And everyone's like, oh my God.
And I'm like, yeah, not mything, I see nothing in that.
(33:42):
For me, I think it's weird, it'sderanged, it makes no sense.
And yet if you look at Pollockand if you don't know who
Pollock is but Pollock did allthe drops of paint on canvas
which is just like chaotic messand he was an alcoholic and he's
probably high half the timewhen he was doing it.
But for me that's alsoconsidered abstract art.
But for me I love it becauseit's colorful, I see patterns,
(34:07):
even though there's in chaos andeven though in my head and in
my heart that makes sense to me,that, to me Picasso is
ridiculous, like in my I meannot ridiculous, I respect the
art, but you know what I meanLike I have no joy in it.
I'm like, yeah, that doesn'twork for me, but yet Pollock is
just a mess of and I'm likethat's lovely, I would pay $1
(34:30):
million for that, right yeah,yeah, when I first saw Picasso's
stuff not realizing that's kindof a style in and of itself
yeah, my first thought was whosefour-year-old drew that?
I agree.
I mean, look, I'm not trying todiss Picasso, I'm just saying
that's kind of the difference.
But yeah, I had the samefeeling and the same kind of,
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and also I kept thinking, likethis is somebody with like
issues of the human spirit.
That's where I went, like whyelse would you break up
someone's face and do that?
And and you know, and again,that's what art does, that's the
beauty of it, you know?
Rick Costa (35:11):
um, yeah, yeah, it was shocking and they have
somebody sell something for likea ton of money and it was all
it was was a banana with tape tothe wall or something, or
that's the most I'm like you arekidding me yeah.
Carmen Lezeth (35:27):
And then they did a Super Bowl commercial with
Chris Hemsworth eating thebanana.
That was the art piece.
You didn't see it.
Yes, it's like all the Chris's.
I think it was like ChrisHemsworth or Chris Pratt or
something, I don't know.
I don't know who was in thecommercial, but basically
they're walking around a museumor something.
(35:47):
I don't know who was in thecommercial, but basically
they're walking around a museumor something and all of a sudden
you know they see that piece,which is the banana with the
silver tape across it, andthey're like whatever.
And then you know they shoot tosomething else.
And then Chris comes over withthe banana and he's eating it,
and then the other I forget whothe other actor was.
I don't know why.
I think it's Chris Pratt.
Rick Costa (36:04):
Chris Pratt.
Carmen Lezeth (36:10):
I don know who the other actor was.
I don't know why.
I think it's chris pratt, chrisparrot, I don't know who it was,
but the other actor's like whatdid you do?
And he's like I was hungry orsomething.
Yeah, I look at.
That's a great example of apiece of art that I honestly I
don't get why it's so likeenough for people to spend
millions of dollars.
I don't get.
I understand why the artistmade the piece, even if it's,
(36:31):
but why would anyone want to buythat for millions of dollars?
Like you could do it yourselfat home.
I could do it myself.
Rick Costa (36:41):
I think it's like a one-time, like a first time
one-time thing, cause then, oh,I'm going to do that too and
we'll put a tape on the Apple,whatever, but nobody's going to
care because it's already beendone before.
Carmen Lezeth (36:52):
I know, but then, but I know, but I don't.
But you see what I'm saying,like so then I don't get it
right.
Like I'm over here like beinglike can you subscribe to my sub
stack?
Don't worry about paying likeeight dollars a month or
something, just do the free one.
And here are people putting afucking banana with a piece of
tape over and getting billionsof dollars, you know.
(37:13):
And here I am spending likefour days writing my first
article.
I'm just saying it's justinteresting.
That's the brilliance of art,right um so yeah, I I will say.
Getting back to the pet peevething, I think that's one of my
pet peeves is when peopledisrespect especially.
(37:35):
It's not just art, but for me,because I love film so much, it
hurts me, I don't know.
But that's why you saw meretreat when that happened.
First of all I was shook by themovie, but it it was also like
I've always loved Hollywood,it's always been a part of me.
And being on set I mean youguys have been on set, you've
(37:59):
seen movies being shot orwhatever, and it's fascinating,
right.
And I think when you see howmany thousands of people
especially for La La Land, butfor any movie that it takes to
just create a movie, even ifit's horror, I'm like okay, not
my thing, but respect, I'd loveto film a movie and I'm hoping
(38:25):
to create at least a script forit and I would love to do that.
But it takes a lot of work anda lot of money.
Rick Costa (38:32):
Yeah, and a lot of people.
Carmen Lezeth (38:37):
Now I'm sad, I'm like I'm never going to be able
to, you know, to create a movieor something I want to.
I think it'd be so cool.
I have a storyline and in placeto do it and yeah, again it's
that thing.
Like you know what my pet peeveis?
Can I tell you that everythingtakes money.
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You don't have money, you can'tdo, do jack unless you got a
banana I was.
Somebody has to give you themoney for that banana with the.
She got a banana.
Somebody has to give you themoney for that banana with the.
What's that silver tape called?
I keep calling it silver tape.
Duct tape, duct tape.
Yeah, I keep calling it.
Rick Costa (39:16):
That's all it was.
It was just plain duct tape,it's a banana with duct tape.
Carmen Lezeth (39:19):
And here's the thing you have to change out the
banana every few months that'spart of the art piece because
the banana is rotten.
You few months, that's part ofthe art piece because you're
ripe.
I'm like, I'm just saying Ithink one of my pet peeves is
that the world functions onmoney.
And, um, I still wouldn't doanything differently than the
(39:39):
way I have done it my entirelife, because it's all I could
do is pursue my dreams the way Icould.
Um, because somebody was askingme the other day, would you say
it's all I could do is pursuemy dreams the way I could.
Because somebody was asking methe other day, would you say
it's more important for youngpeople today to try to make as
much money as possible beforethey pursue their dream.
And I'm like I don't even knowif I could have ever done that.
(39:59):
I don't think I could have everjust been like, okay, my focus
has to be making a lot of moneyand then I'll go and pursue my
dream.
Because I don't.
I think when you have a passionand a dream, that's what
encompasses you, but this worldis all about money and unless
you know somebody who gives areal shit about your banana and
(40:20):
duct tape art piece.
Rick Costa (40:24):
I think that's why we like Star Trek so much,
because that's, that's passe.
There is no.
Oh, let me get paid.
No, pay, what's that?
What's that?
Carmen Lezeth (40:31):
Well, the power structure is different, right?
I mean, I think that's kind ofwhat it is.
And I mean so we're onlytalking about the enterprise,
the world of the enterprise wesee, and what we think the
Federation is like, right, andwhat the world is like.
Cynthia is like do I even needto be here?
But you, you've seen star trek,so you understand.
(40:53):
But money, there's no, there'snot a money thing.
It's not like oh I, I need tocreate a shakespearean play and
I have to charge people.
No, you just go and work on andthen you invite people and you
do your thing, you know.
But I said this the other day ifit wasn't money, it would be
something else in order tosucceed, because it seems to be
(41:17):
the way in which humans are.
Everything is about if I giveyou something, you have to give
me something in return to getthat thing.
If I give you something, youhave to give me something in
return to get that thing Right.
So, if you need wood to makeyour house and I have the wood I
can't just give it to you forfree, because maybe I need eggs
(41:38):
and maybe you have a chicken orsomething.
I don't know.
I'm not trying to be sosimplistic about it, but when
you think about how this,especially in our country
capitalism, how it all started,I mean, I think that's kind of
the thing is, we don't do thingsjust to do them out of the
graciousness of our heart andbecause we want you to succeed,
which is what the story of StarTrek is right.
(42:00):
It's like they want Data tosucceed so badly at being human.
They're like, yes, read thisbook, yes, try this, yes, play
this, this musical instrument.
And so he just does it.
They do that because they wanthim to succeed.
We don't do that in thiscountry especially, but we don't
do that in the world.
We don't do anything withoutgetting something for it.
(42:22):
And I'm not, I'm not trying tobe mean, I'm just saying no,
it's true, that's true.
Rick Costa (42:26):
I think there's always been bartering.
That's the thing at times.
So I saw somebody postingsomething the other day that
their electricity had gotten cutoff.
They didn't have the money andthey're freezing they're really
cold and the refrigerator food'sgetting spoiled and I felt so
horrible.
I was like why can't I be amillionaire?
(42:46):
Because I would, in a splitsecond, give you whatever you
need.
That's in me to do that Like Iwould definitely do that without
thinking twice.
Carmen Lezeth (42:57):
And I'm like I'm broke too.
Darn it, I can't.
I want it so bad.
I think one of the things thatwas interesting about that is
this is somebody who would neverpost on Facebook and Instagram
that they needed help.
This is like and I'm a knock onwood right now I would never
post on Facebook and Instagramsaying I need help and please
(43:17):
can you give me some money.
And that's how I knew this wasfor real real and, by the way,
this is someone who has spenttheir entire life helping other
people and they got into a badspace.
They got into a bad place and Iwas like I was the same way,
(43:38):
rick.
I was like fuck, if I had themoney, I would just be like girl
, take those posts down.
I got you.
I would just send her thefucking money.
But you know what ended uphappening?
People were on there being likeis this, this is how?
This is how much I knew.
It was so heart wrenching forher.
All of her friends on Facebooknot all of them A lot of them
were like is this really you?
(43:59):
You would never do this.
I need somebody to have aconversation with.
And she's like I don't have anypower.
Cynthia Lopez (44:05):
I can't get on a FaceTime call, so then people
are like and I'm sorry that isnot a friend, because if that
was your friend you wouldautomatically just call them hey
, are you okay?
Carmen Lezeth (44:15):
That's what somebody else did and said to
verify.
So there's the part wherepeople are unsure if that's her
on Facebook.
Because, cynthia, it would belike if I went on Facebook and
wrote it really is like this IfI were to go on Facebook and say
I'm having a really hard time,I don't have any electricity on
right now, I don't have anymoney.
(44:36):
Can you please go to my Venmoand send me some cash?
I'm trying to raise enoughmoney.
Blah, blah, blah to get mylights back on.
Cynthia Lopez (44:44):
First of all I'm not going to send you a text,
I'm not going to send youanother message on Facebook.
I'm going to call you.
Carmen Lezeth (44:50):
I know, but you can't reach her because her
phone is not working.
That's the problem she's having.
So I understand why people onFacebook are freaking the fuck
out, cause they don't think it's, because I don't think anyone
believes that I would do that,so that's number one.
And so that's number one.
And then you can't really callme because they don't have any
electricity.
You know what I mean.
So she took a moment to post onFacebook and Instagram so that
(45:11):
she could get some help, and sopeople are all like is this
really her?
I need somebody to do aFaceTime to check.
Somebody hacked her account andI'm like, oh my God, and I know
that that's her Venmo.
Rick Costa (45:28):
I know that that's her.
You know what I mean, like, andI don't even know her super
well, but just from little keythings she wrote.
I knew it was her, I didn'tquestion it, I knew it was her.
Carmen Lezeth (45:32):
But I understand why people you know what I mean
said like, I know what you'resaying, but I know why somebody
questioned it, because somethingthat no one would ever expect.
You would never expect me to,cynthia, if I wrote that on
Facebook.
I hope you would question itbecause you'd be like, wait, why
didn't Carmen call me first?
You know what I mean, like,what is happening, like.
But I think that's kind of thething it's like and and I know,
(45:55):
rick, I agree with you I mean,it's one of my pet peeves.
I wish I had enough money,cause I it's money.
No one should be without fuckingelectricity in this country.
Nobody should be homeless inthis fucking country.
Nobody should be suffering thisbadly.
(46:17):
I don't give a fuck.
And this idea that people arelazy or that people that's not
what it is either.
We fall on hard times, thingshappen, things are extremely
expensive Medical care.
We are all one paycheck awayfrom being homeless.
I don't give a fuck who you are, unless you are Elon Musk or
(46:38):
all these other people who gotmoney, money, money.
Everybody, my, I have clientswho have lots of money, who
freaked out because they losthalf a million dollars and are
now not going to hire somebodythat we need to hire because
they're so afraid of the market.
That's somebody who has money,money not me money, money, money
, money.
(46:58):
You know what I mean.
And they're freaking out and sobecause they have a family, you
know, and they have to helppeople and they take care of
people and it's like so what doyou think the rest of us are
doing?
Rick Costa (47:11):
Another pet peeve I have is people that say oh yeah,
me too.
I live paycheck to paycheck.
The next day be like check outmy new shoes, Ain't they cool?
I'm like, no, Come to me withno paycheck.
All I buy is food.
That's it, what you mean.
You live paycheck to paycheck.
Carmen Lezeth (47:28):
I know, okay, you mean you live paycheck to
paycheck.
I know, okay, I feel a littleguilty there because, um, I,
yeah, I do live paycheck topaycheck.
I just don't have children oranyone to take care of, and so I
am, you know, gonna go get myhair done soon.
No, um, I just I agree with you.
I think it's also people whocry poverty and use money
(47:51):
unwisely.
You know what I mean, um, andso I agree with you.
I think it's also people whocry poverty and use money
unwisely.
You know what I mean, so Iagree with you.
I actually do have to get myhair done, but, if you've
noticed, I haven't.
So because I know, I mean, themarket is volatile, and I also
know two of my clients who losttheir homes are not going to be
able to keep paying us.
You know they lost them duringthe fires, so I already know
(48:12):
things are about to get tighttoo.
But that's what I mean.
Like, I mean, will I be okayfor a couple months?
Sure, but after that?
And what am I going to do aboutmy housekeeper and my Botox?
Rick Costa (48:27):
Get out that t-shirt .
Carmen Lezeth (48:37):
Get out that t-shirt.
I already told her.
I already told her that afterJune I couldn't have her anymore
.
She doesn't know.
But that's what you do you tryto set yourself up.
Oh my god, it's such adepressing.
Rick Costa (48:50):
It's supposed to be funny or laugh, at least
laughing in a way.
Carmen Lezeth (48:56):
I know.
I just hope that our friend gotwhat she needed.
I think, um, I think everyonepulled together and, uh, helped
her out, so I hope she goteverything she needed and that
she's okay.
And what a tough situation tobe in.
But I think that's probably oneof my biggest pet peeves for
this country is we have an ideaof what homelessness is.
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We have an idea of what povertyis.
We have an idea of what need is.
And I'm sorry, in this country,in this great country of ours,
no one should ever be in thatsituation.
Really.
No, we have so much.
We really should not ever be.
And that's not about laziness,that's not about pull yourself
(49:39):
up by your bootstraps, it's notabout fucking socialism.
It's about this country has somuch abundance.
And if we were kind and lovelyto each other and if we were
people who really cared abouteach other as neighbors, we
wouldn't look at a homelessperson and just assume that they
deserve to be there right.
Rick Costa (50:00):
I mean, have these people even talk to them?
I mean that I just actually Ijust did it once where we was a
bunch of church people.
He went one night and justtalked to homeless people and
that changed me.
It really did.
It's like, wow, some of thesepeople some of them, yes,
they're a little mentally so youkind of understand why they're
in a situation Some of them justfell on hard times.
(50:21):
They just couldn't get back ontrack, you know.
Carmen Lezeth (50:25):
Can we explain the mentally thing?
Can I give you a scenario andI'm not really saying it for you
, I'm saying it for other peoplebecause that's one of my pet
peeves.
Okay, so let me put it to youthis way.
So the other day I I actuallydid a TikTok about it.
I went to the grocery store andI bought a bottle of wine.
And then I bought like asmaller bottle of wine, like
there's these cute little um,I'd show it to you, but I
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already drank it.
It's like a little.
It's like a little one.
You can just get like twoglasses.
I've never seen like a miniwine bottle.
You know what I'm talking about.
So I did a TikTok about it and Iwas cracking up and so I was
just having a day.
So I was like you know, I'mgonna have a glass of wine or
whatever, but anyways, so I havea glass of wine because I had a
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tough day.
So can you imagine if I washomeless and on the street,
having a really tough bunch ofdays strung together and
couldn't find my way to theshelter, I got harassed by some
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guy who was drunk and all handsyor whatever, because if you've
ever been to a homeless shelter.
It's not like you all have yourown private rooms, okay, um, or
maybe when I went to go gethelp, snap benefits or welfare
benefits or something just totry to get me out of the
situation I'm in.
(51:50):
Because actually what happenedto me was I had a medical
surgery thing that happened, andthen at the same time my
husband died, and when he died Ididn't get any of his social
security benefits because of alittle snafu in the system that
said I didn't get to earn them.
And then I got into a medicaldilemma and then oh, by the way
(52:14):
I ended up not being able to paythe rent because I was a
caretaker while my husband wasalive, dealing with cancer or
whatever, and so I lost my job.
I'm just spitballingpossibilities here of stories I
know have happened, have we'veall heard.
But that's how it happened.
It doesn't mean that thatperson wasn't a valuable human
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being with ideas and a heart andpassions, but when things go
bad, they can go very, very bad,and then you end up in a
shelter, you end up trying toget help.
It gets harder and harder.
It is actually easier,especially if you live in
California I can't say the samefor Vermont or Boston.
But if you live in California,it is so much easier to sleep on
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that beach with the beautifulsky at night, with the waves
rolling, with your glass of winethat maybe you bought with some
money you panhandled becauseyou've had a bad day.
You see where I'm going withthis.
You see how easy it is tobecome an alcoholic or to become
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someone who's constantly tryingto just rid yourself of the
pain that you're in by drinking.
But I'm not advocating for it.
I'm not saying this is whatshould happen.
I'm saying there but for thegrace of God, go.
I, motherfucking bitches, stopbeing an ass to homeless people.
And Rick, what you said seepeople for who they are.
Rick Costa (53:45):
Yeah, I bet so many of them probably say to
themselves I don't even get here.
I can't believe this.
All of them probably say tothemselves.
Carmen Lezeth (53:53):
I don't even get here.
I can't believe this.
All of them say that and youknow, drugs is the easiest way
to.
I just told you I drank youknow a little mini bottle of
wine because I had a hard day.
I can't imagine what it wouldbe like, you know, okay.
So maybe somebody gives you a$10 bill or something you know,
when you're panhandling, maybewhatever you get like 20.
I don't know how much peoplemake panhandling, but maybe it's
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enough to like get you food.
But why get food when you canget high and not think about it
anymore?
But we all want to be somoralistic, right?
We all want to be like, but Iwould, you know what.
What's $10 going to get you?
$10 ain't going to get you anapartment.
Rick Costa (54:37):
You have so little pleasure as it is, so why not?
Carmen Lezeth (54:40):
That's what I'm saying, yeah, I mean, you know
we keep talking about pet peeves, but my pet peeve is us being
heartless and unkind.
But then saying that we wouldbe Right, yeah, I would help
anybody really those are thesame ones that say I got you, I
(55:01):
got you.
I'm here for you.
I will support you bysubscribing to your sub stack or
your YouTube channel.
I got you, Carmen.
I got you exactly, I got you.
Exactly.
Yeah, pet peeves about yourneighbors.
Yeah, I'm not going to waste mytime on them.
Cynthia Lopez (55:23):
How about traveling?
Pet peeves about traveling.
Do you have a pet?
Bed bugs?
That is number one's funny um.
Carmen Lezeth (55:38):
What's your pet peeve about traveling?
Cynthia Lopez (55:41):
not being at the airport on time.
Carmen Lezeth (55:44):
I hate rushing at the airport on time.
Oh, I'm, I'm always on time atthe row.
Cynthia Lopez (55:52):
I always have to tell people that our flight
leaves about a half hour to anhour earlier than what it does,
so that we can get there on timeand have enough time to relax
are?
Carmen Lezeth (56:04):
are we when we're talking about people?
Are the people we're talkingabout one?
Cynthia Lopez (56:09):
and we bring it full circle.
Carmen Lezeth (56:19):
Oh yeah, there's a woman on Tik TOK who I forget
what her name is, but I followher on Tik TOK and she goes up
to random people and asks themquestions and she'll say things
and she's black, she's a blackwoman and what she's actually
asking them is questions to seeif they know anything about
being black.
Oh, she'll go up to blackpeople and ask them and she'll
(56:41):
be like what, what, what, what.
Rick Costa (56:44):
Lexi, yeah, soul school.
Yeah, that's Lexi.
Carmen Lezeth (56:46):
Soul school.
It's so funny so she'll go upand ask them, like if I say I'm
uh 20 minutes away, what time amI gonna get there?
Of course, the answer is likean hour and a half.
Cynthia Lopez (56:57):
Right, that's the answer so she does all those I
saw.
I saw her one time and she wasasking a white girl and she knew
all the answers.
She goes, she's invited to thebarbecue, yeah she goes you sure
you weren't black in yourprevious life, right?
Carmen Lezeth (57:15):
well my favorite one, because it really is really
distinct is like she'll be,like god is good, and white
people always say god is great.
The answer is all the timeright, all the time, all the
time god is good.
It's so funny.
Rick Costa (57:32):
Yeah, it always cracks me up I can't go to, and
she's like who is booboo thefool?
I don't know, I don't know, Idon't know don't understand mom
and them.
Carmen Lezeth (57:48):
Do you guys get what mom and them is?
It's mom and them.
So when she says who's mom andthem, everyone's like, uh, what
I don't know?
It's like mom and them.
So it's anybody, it's all youranybody, the mailman, the
anybody who's in the room at thetime mom and them.
It just it's so funny because Ia smart, interesting TikTok, I
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mean brilliant and I didn't knowyou guys followed her.
Okay, cool.
Thank you so much, that was somuch fun.
Thank you so much for being inthe private lounge and remember
at the end of the day, oh, Ishould do a little bit of
promoting ourselves.
Huh, why not?
Yeah, so we are on YouTube.
You can find it under my name,which is Carmen Lee set.
(58:32):
You can also try to Google itall about the joy, but I don't
think it comes up under YouTubethere.
But you can also go toaatjoycom to find all of our
links.
Please also come and check usout on Friday nights at 6 PM
Pacific, 9 PM Eastern, where wehave our live show and anyone
(58:53):
can come and join in in the chatand sometimes we'll have you
come on if you have time.
We had a great show last weekwith somebody.
Where was he from, I forget.
Rick Costa (59:02):
Maslam from England, michael, but I'm so used to
calling him Maslam, that'salways how he is.
Carmen Lezeth (59:06):
Yeah, but he was from Turkey.
He's originally from Turkey,but he was from Turkey.
He's originally from Turkey.
Yeah, he's originally fromTurkey.
It was really nice and he cameon and that was really fun, and
Brian joined us too, and thatwas a great time.
So, yeah, check us out onFriday night.
We're looking forward to seeingyou there, and that's it.
But remember, at the end of theday, it really is all about the
joy.
(59:26):
Bye everyone, good night, bye.
Bye everyone.
Bye.
Thanks for stopping by.
All About the Joy.
Be better and stay beautifulfolks.
Rick Costa (59:37):
Have a sweet day.
Hi everybody, welcome to All that Joy.
Carmen Lezeth (00:09):
Hello, the private lounge.
We're over here like 10 minutesinto a conversation.
Hey, Cynthia's in the house howyou guys doing.
Doing, good Doing good, allright, you guys are going to
keep being chatty, right, likeyou just were.
Cynthia Lopez (00:27):
I wanted to talk a little bit about pet peeves,
which might go into some of whatwe were talking about earlier
today with work, I got a wholelot.
Carmen Lezeth (00:37):
Oh no, cynthia did her homework.
I sure did Start with you, Gaia.
Cynthia Lopez (00:44):
Oh, pet peeves, when are we starting?
Go ahead, oh, pet peeves, whereare we starting From work, work
, work, pet peeves.
Carmen Lezeth (00:49):
We can just start with all the pet peeves that
mother.
Cynthia, let's start with work.
Let's start with work.
Cynthia Lopez (00:56):
Let's see what do I have here.
Work, oh, micromanaging.
I hate micromanaging, but theworst part about it is when they
do it over the phone and can'teven get up from their desk to
walk five doors down to youroffice to talk to you.
They call you.
(01:16):
Did you do this?
Oh, what about this?
How about that, knowing youalready did it I know.
Carmen Lezeth (01:26):
Yeah, I hate micromanaging as well and I try
not to do it.
Cynthia Lopez (01:31):
but yeah, I, my clients do that to me all the
time, michael but in mysituation it's like we went from
having two employees in myoffice me and the other woman
doing all this work and now it'sjust me.
For the past what month now?
And it's like in a month youhaven't even tried to come and
help me or find me any help, butyou're going to micromanage me,
(01:53):
knowing I'm doing everythingcorrectly, because the doctor is
aware I'm doing everythingcorrectly and is very pleased
with my work.
I'm sorry.
Rick Costa (02:03):
I'm sorry.
Just today I get a call fromthe hefe and he's like what
about this order?
And I'm like what order?
Please enlighten me.
He always never gives me allthe details so I can figure out
what are you talking about.
Or he'll be like looking atsomething.
He's like did you take care ofthis guy?
(02:23):
And I'm like who, what?
And it might not have beentoday.
I'm like, give me a second tofigure out what you're talking
about.
Since you ain't gonna tell me,I gotta figure it out and you're
wasting time mind reading.
Carmen Lezeth (02:35):
That's a whole other one.
So for this, micromanaging islike you're supposed to be a
mind reader with thesemotherfuckers.
Rick Costa (02:41):
My clients do that all the time so like well, did
you tell the shipping guy aboutthis?
How's it supposed to ship?
And I was like yeah, I sent hima message on Teams.
Go look, oh, okay, yeah, yeah.
Well, make sure you stay on topof this.
Okay, I'm like now you feelstupid, so you have nothing to
say, just stay on top of it.
Carmen Lezeth (02:59):
I can't stand that.
I can't stand that.
My thing is is the mind reading, though, Like one of my clients
will be like um, Carmen, uh,that report that we talked about
.
This man is constantly withmotherfucking reports.
Like every five minutes it's anew report he needs and then
I'll be like I'll, I'll get toit, it's on the list.
(03:20):
I always say it's on the listCause the list is, like you know
, 35 things long.
And then like randomly out ofnowhere, like I'll be walking by
to go to the bathroom orsomething, and he'll just ask me
and I'm supposed to knock topmy head not only which report
that he's talking about, butwhatever numbers.
And I'm not that person.
Everybody knows I am notsomebody who retains shit in my
(03:41):
head, especially shit that don'tmatter to me in my life, Like I
don't care about your business,I work for you, but I need to
go look it up.
I'm not retaining that shit.
He gets so mad.
Rick Costa (03:54):
There's another thing he calls yesterday.
He goes about.
A month ago I told you to gothrough.
It's our biggest customer andthere's a lot of old credit
cards in there and it doesn't.
We can't see the credit cardnumber, except for the last four
numbers and the expiration.
So it's like you know I ain'tgonna see that part, but it's
like there's so many old ones inthere.
Can you go through that today?
And I'm like today, how many isin there since 2019?
(04:18):
Okay, so I did.
I spent like literally half theday doing it, and then the next
day I'm going to lie.
I forgot about it.
Plus, it's not a huge priority.
There's nothing customer-wiseneeded to do right now.
Right, well, I see a wholebunch of them still in here.
Did you ever do it?
I was like I spent half the daydoing it, and so then I was
like, let me see if I can finishit now.
(04:39):
It it was maybe like 15 left togo out of 300, maybe.
I'm like what the heck?
Carmen Lezeth (04:47):
It's never good enough.
It's never good enough.
What about unnecessary meetings?
We have those all the time.
Meetings that can be 15 minuteslike should just be 15 minutes.
Yep minutes like should just be15 minutes.
Cynthia Lopez (05:04):
Yep, and it shouldn't be a powerpoint
presentation where they're justreading what's on the screen so
that you could just send it tome in an email.
I can print it out if I need itand I can read it myself.
Carmen Lezeth (05:18):
Yeah, for sure.
I think that's a big, a big one, a big waste of time that
people do.
I think that's a power thing,yeah.
Cynthia Lopez (05:28):
I need everyone.
They're so monotone.
If they're so monotone and I'mthere like falling asleep and
I'm just like, oh my God, ifyou're not excited about this,
how can I be?
Carmen Lezeth (05:40):
Okay, that's just wrong.
But I think it's a, it's like apower thing where people are
like you know, oh, we have tohave a meeting, let's sit down,
let's have, let's uh schedule mesomething.
And, like I always see, one ofmy clients is always telling
their assistant uh, schedule mesomething, just fit it in, fit
it in.
And I'm like bitch, we don'tneed to have no conversation
with him, it's all good, he cancall me tomorrow between nine
(06:02):
and ten and I can tell himeverything he need to know.
You know what I mean.
Like there is no need.
Or I can just walk over thereright now, tell him while he's
sitting there doing nothing, andtell him we don't need to get
25 people together.
It is annoying.
Rick Costa (06:15):
The unnecessary meetings are used to do that,
but of course I work from home,so he would just put it on
speakerphone and they'd havetheir meeting.
Like I barely hear what they'resaying because they're probably
not even near the phone, andI'm like, okay, listening for
something pertinent.
Carmen Lezeth (06:33):
To me.
That's a big reason for whypeople want people back in the
office, though, too, I dobelieve there is something
beneficial to having people inthe office, but I think it has
to be a hybrid situation, if itcan be at this point in time.
I mean, your job's a little bitdifferent, cynthia, because you
work in pathology and there aremedical fields and you know
(06:54):
like you can't do constructionfrom home.
You know what I mean.
If you work in the constructionfield or whatever, you probably
have to do that on site.
I'm just saying, but there aresome jobs that can be done on a
hybrid situation.
But I do think part of thecreative process, especially
when you're with a team ofpeople, is very different than
when you're on a Zoom call.
I think our energy would bereally cool if we were in person
(07:16):
or not.
We might actually hate eachother.
You know what I mean.
I know right.
What about pet peeves you havewith friends?
Everyone here, included, ofcourse, everyone here.
Like, what is your pet peevewith Mario and Alma?
(07:37):
No, just in general, do youguys have pet peeves With some
of your friends?
Cynthia Lopez (07:50):
When they don't.
Two of them One, when theydon't listen, like they'll come
to you with all their issues andwant you to listen and give
them all the advice, but whenit's your turn, oh, I'm too busy
or I gotta do this or, you know, they just don't have time to
listen to your drama.
And the other one is knowing,knowing your audience, like, for
(08:12):
instance, if they're yourfriends, they should know what
type of music you listen to.
Right, and let's say they'regoing to a concert and it's a
genre that you just don't likeif it's a country, country music
which we all know I love, why?
and I say, carmen, I havetickets, let's go to the country
, a country thing and you saythat right, and you and you say
(08:38):
no, right, and then I never askyou again to go to any other
type of concert.
It's's like if you know I don'tlike that, why invite me to
that?
But then, once that I do likeyou don't invite me to, right,
you know so.
Rick Costa (08:55):
Speaking of listening, like a pet peeve of
mine is.
So let's say I said to myfriend I'm Marco Polo, Cause I
like that video thing, you couldjust record it and they watch
whenever at their convenience,and back and forth.
And I'd be like I'll say, oh,my mom had to go to the hospital
for some.
Make an example, I'm going togo to the hospital.
(09:16):
He's not fully listening.
And then he'll come back and belike oh, I'm sorry, your mom
got the sniffles.
I'm like I said she went to thehospital.
Carmen Lezeth (09:28):
What is wrong with you?
You're not listening clearly.
Yeah that's attention For thosepeople who don't know what
Marco Polo is, because I swearto God, rick, you're the only
person I know who uses MarcoPolo.
It's like WhatsApp or Signal,which is you can just leave a
voice note or you can leave avideo message and then somebody
can answer you back at their ownconvenience.
I've never heard of Marco Polountil Rick said it, and I've
(09:49):
never heard anyone else talkabout it.
I think it's your own secretapp.
I think, one of my pet peeveswith my friends.
First of all, I don't think Ihave that many friends.
I have a lot more acquaintancesthan I do friends, but that's a
whole other conversation.
But I'll say this I think a lotof people mean well, but they
(10:12):
don't follow through.
So a lot of my friends, or alot of acquaintances, will say
things like no, I got you, Isupport you, I'm a subscribe to
your sub stack.
Like I got you, carmen, I'llsubscribe to your YouTube or
whatever it is.
I support you a hundred percent.
But then they don't do it.
And then what's worse is you doit again and they don't do it.
(10:33):
And it's like you don't have tosupport my stuff.
But also, don't kiss my ass infront of me.
You know what I mean, becauseI'll tell you what I'm not going
to support your shit.
If I don't want to support yourshit, I'm not.
I'm not going to lie to youabout it.
Like I'm trying to think who isit that I recently said?
Well, you know what.
(10:53):
I'll use an example here.
This isn't what I was thinkingof.
But, rick, you and I, we getalong on so many levels, but one
of the things I don't really dois and you know I am supporting
you right now because I'm apromote, rick Costacom but you
have a whole religious kind ofthing that you do on an everyday
, but it's just not my thing.
So I'm not going to pretend andbe like I got you.
(11:15):
I'm going to support you,whatever right.
You know how I feel about itNow.
I support you as a person andin your creativity, and I
support you because I knowyou're not doing no harm to
nobody.
You know what I mean and so.
But you see what I'm saying,right, like there's no lies
between us.
But people will continuously belike yes, I will support
(11:35):
everything you do, Carmen, andI'm like so how come you're not
on our YouTube channel?
All about the joy.
How come you don't listen toour podcast?
Rick Costa (11:47):
I learned this when I was on the periscope days.
Public service announcement ifyou go do stuff online, your
friends and family will not bethere.
But why?
It's crazy like if they did itI would.
Carmen Lezeth (11:59):
But unless I didn't agree with it, 100 like I
come and visit your show.
I just want for the, for thelistening.
I do come and visit your showand I do listen once in a while.
You know that because I'll comein and say hi, especially when
you do the games, because I likethat part.
But yeah, then why say thatyou're going to support someone
100% if you're not going to?
Yeah, exactly.
Rick Costa (12:22):
That's annoying.
Cynthia Lopez (12:28):
I feel like Cynthia's being very quiet
because she's one of thosepeople who says she's going to
support stuff.
Is that what's happening?
No, no, no.
Another thing I don't like andthis is just a general thing is
like with anybody friends,family, whoever is if you go out
to dinner, you go to the moviesor whatever, they're just on
the phone, always on their phone.
But then when you say, oh, didyou get my text?
(12:50):
No, I never got it, really,because you're always on your
phone you know what?
Carmen Lezeth (12:55):
I love Andrea with all my heart, but she does
that shit all the time.
I'll be like did you get myemail or my text?
And she'll be like oh, I'vebeen so busy.
But when we go out to dinnershe is one of those people who's
like one second.
I'm like do I have a different?
Like is there some notificationsound?
That's like it's just Carmen.
Ignore that shit.
Here goes the spam.
I love her with all my heartbut I'm like, okay, you just
(13:20):
ignored me because you know I'mgood, like whatever, but she
does that shit all the time.
I thought you were gonna saysomething else.
I can't stand when you go outwith quote-unquote family and
friends to dinner and we allabout to eat, and then people be
all cheap and shit, like do notgo out with me and start
splitting that fucking billbased on like um, I only had
(13:44):
water and a salad.
Like don't come to eat with methen don't.
You know what I mean?
Like I don't mind splitting thebill if that's the agreement we
had at the beginning, but Icannot stand cheap people.
I can't stand it, and if wedon't go eat, we're gonna go eat
.
Don't come and eat, no waterand salad, because you can't
just say you can't afford it,then I'll pay the shit.
(14:05):
Do you know what I mean?
Like I, okay, you know how I amsomething when it comes to food
.
So wait, do you guys, when youguys go out to eat, do you guys
normally split the bill, or whatdo you do, because maybe I'm
out of touch with things?
I don't know you, okay, but doyou split it, like based on what
you ate, or do you?
(14:27):
No, evenly?
Cynthia Lopez (14:28):
Just if there's four of us, I split it between
the four of us, okay.
Carmen Lezeth (14:32):
Right, I usually will pick up the bill.
I will.
I usually will just pick up thebill If I'm going out to eat,
like, and I said, let's go outto eat because I like to eat.
But yeah, rick, to eat becauseI like to eat.
But yeah, rick, what's yourflavor when it comes to food?
I know you don't go out to eata lot, but Right, right, right.
Rick Costa (14:49):
I mean as far as the bill like.
As soon as they come and startasking us what you want, I
immediately say how are wepaying for this?
Carmen Lezeth (14:58):
Oh, no, okay.
Rick Costa (15:00):
Because some people they'll be like lobster shrimp
several cups of wine.
I'm like, okay, I'm a littlebit hungry, but I, what are you
doing?
Carmen Lezeth (15:11):
okay, okay, okay.
I just want to be clear rightnow, rick, if we ever going out
to eat like when we all gettogether at our studio, wherever
and you, you know what I meanwe're doing our in-studio
podcast, live stream or whateverand we go out to eat, you will
not say that I got you.
Okay, I will pay for it.
Cynthia Lopez (15:28):
Okay, we're not going to be ghetto Me and Carmen
will already have talked aboutit.
We'll be like if I got it oryou got it, I know, and we'll
deal with it.
After We'll deal with it.
Carmen Lezeth (15:40):
Cause I don't look at I grew up poor.
I mean, I guess we all kind ofdid, but I grew up poor and I
think what I don't like is thestigma that comes with that and
it's also, I think, being awoman of color who grew up poor.
There's also this thing like Idon't want you to ever believe
in one any way, shape or form,that I am cheap, All the
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stereotypes that you think aboutpoor people and I do think
that's where it comes from.
I will stand on whatever it isthat I have to in order to make
sure you understand that I amnot cheap, like, and if that
means I can't go out to dinnerwith you cause I can't afford it
, I'm going to tell you straightup.
You know what.
I can't afford it today, buthave a lovely time, but I'm sure
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as hell not going to go todinner and then be like today.
But have a lovely time, but I'msure as hell not gonna go to
dinner and then be like um, um,can I just have a water?
Rick Costa (16:32):
no, no I think in my case, because there's certain
family members that will takeadvantage of that, and they will
every time, and they alreadyknow their cheap period in life
and they will order $40, $50worth of food, knowing they're
only going to have to pay $20.
Carmen Lezeth (16:51):
Okay, but why would you go?
Okay.
So this is where you and I aredifferent, and I think Cynthia
is the same way.
Why would you go out to dinnerwith them again, like, show me
once.
Rick Costa (17:00):
Family.
Thing.
Oh yeah, I know.
Carmen Lezeth (17:04):
We could be family, but we ain't going to
dinner Like Cynthia.
Cynthia Lopez (17:07):
You could always.
But Rick, you can always say,like, if you guys do that dinner
again, say to the waiter, canmy check be separate?
Yeah, I've done that.
Carmen Lezeth (17:18):
You can do separate checks.
That's cool too.
I'm going to go to the bathroom.
Rick Costa (17:21):
I'll be right back.
Hey, bro, right.
Carmen Lezeth (17:22):
Oh, I'll be right back.
Hey, brooke, right, oh yeah,but Cynthia, you know there are
people I will not go to dinnerwith.
I will not go to dinner withpeople.
Cynthia knows who they are.
I will not go to dinner withcertain people.
You showed me once who you is.
We done, yep, not doing it.
Oh, that's interesting.
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What else?
Other things with family?
I was talking about, um, justthings that I remember growing
up, kind of uh, it wasn't my petpeeve, but I would get yelled
at if I didn't take the lightsoff.
You know what I mean.
Like, I remember that was likea and so now I have a habit of
doing that, to the extent thatone of the people I work with
the other day, she's like everytime you leave my office, you
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turn the lights off and I'm likeI'm sorry, I think no matter
where I am, I'm always takingoff lights.
So she, actually she, she wasright, cause she'll just go to
the bathroom and then I'll begetting up to leave, like, cause
I'm, I'm not there all day.
You know what I mean.
I visit my client and I'll getmy bags up and I'll just turn
off the lights and lock and shutthe door and she'll come back
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from the bathroom and like whatare you doing?
It is her office, I'm justvisiting.
Cynthia Lopez (18:32):
Oh my God, I'm the same way.
I hate it.
So one has a tendency ofleaving the light on in the
bathroom, and it drives me crazy.
Oh yeah, no.
Oh my God, it drives me.
It drives me crazy.
Oh yeah, no.
Oh my God, it drives me up thewall.
Carmen Lezeth (18:47):
Okay, we're the problem, we're the problem.
You know what I mean.
Like, I am the problem, I amthe drama, I'm the drama.
Rick Costa (18:56):
In my case, it used to be mom that did that, and now
we've reverted.
Now I'm the one that's like whyis this on?
Why are you going to leave thisTV on in your bedroom?
You ain't going to be in yourbedroom until tonight.
Why are you doing that?
But Portuguese people, firstgeneration Portuguese people, we
are very interesting because wesay things that drive Americans
crazy, like open, close thelights.
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Can you open the light?
Can you close the light?
And everybody's like really,open the light?
Oh, because it's thetranslation.
Like because in portuguese youdo say it that way, but in
english you don't.
That doesn't make sense.
To turn on or turn off, youdon't open and close the light.
So it's like a funny thing withus.
Carmen Lezeth (19:34):
I think it happens too, though, because I
think, but also because she'spolish, she's from poland, she
has some of those word changesas well, because it's you're
directly translating instead ofis it idioms or whatever.
You know, there are all theseidioms in certain languages.
Yeah, that's funny.
Turn open the light.
Is that what you say?
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Oh, you say open the light.
Rick Costa (19:56):
Open or close the light, yeah.
Carmen Lezeth (19:58):
Oh my God, that's funny.
All right, pet peeves inrelationships, let's get down
and dirty.
Okay, all right, I'll make iteasy With friends, with friends
with friends.
Rick Costa (20:12):
I mean, it could be similar, you know.
Carmen Lezeth (20:14):
Friends or lovers ?
What is your pet peeve withJuan?
Let's just talk about Juan.
Cynthia Lopez (20:20):
Let's see the light switch.
No, don't talk about wine.
Carmen Lezeth (20:32):
No.
What are pet peeves, though,with anything like relationships
, friends?
Cynthia Lopez (20:39):
this might sound weird, right, but like if I'm
hosting a dinner in my house,like for Thanksgiving, let's say
and you know I've never beeninvited to, but go ahead.
Oh hush Um.
And let's say you know I wantto clean up or everyone's, you
know putting their dishes away,whatever, and somebody starts
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cleaning my kitchen and startswashing the dishes.
Rick Costa (21:03):
I don't like that.
Cynthia Lopez (21:04):
I know that they're trying to help me, but
it's like I want to do thatLeave it alone.
Carmen Lezeth (21:10):
Enjoy the time that's you being anal.
That's not being about me.
Rick Costa (21:16):
I love it.
Go clean my bathroom too, whileyou're at it.
Carmen Lezeth (21:21):
High five, baby, don't leave me hanging Bitch
clean, go ahead.
High five, baby, don't leave mehanging right, bitch clean, go
ahead.
No, no, I I hear you, buthere's the thing.
I think again not to bebringing up andrea.
I think mia's, oh, mia too, miaand andrea, they're all the
same way.
But you have to tell peoplebecause from my point of view,
especially when I went to like Iused to always go to Mia's in
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New York, right In Pennsylvania,to go for Thanksgiving and I
mean, and her husband would payfor my first class flight out
there and hotel, so I didn'thave to stay with them with
their children, like that's howsweet they were.
So you think I'm going to walkinto her house and eat and not
be like how can I clean and help.
Think I'm going to walk intoher house and eat and not be
like how can I clean and help?
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I know it was such a kindnessthat they were making sure I was
with them and they were and hewas paying.
So you want to help.
But you know, at one point Miawas like it's all good, carmen,
just go relax.
You feel me.
And I was like she tried tospin it like I'm family, but
she's like bitch, get the hellout my kitchen is what I was
hearing.
That was the subtext.
Cynthia Lopez (22:26):
But it's funny though, because when I do go to
other people's houses, I alwayswant to help them clean up.
Yeah, it's a weird thing.
Carmen Lezeth (22:33):
How come you don't just tell people?
You should just tell them.
I know now.
Cynthia Lopez (22:39):
I tell them, just leave it there.
And they're like no, no, no,it's fine, I'm like oh, you're
talking about Teresa huh, no, Ijust.
What are you talking about?
You're talking about Teresa.
Oh no, I have my pet peeveswith her.
Yeah, okay.
Carmen Lezeth (22:54):
Again, we're not talking about individual people
in a negative way.
Teresa, no, no, what are yourpet peeves?
But?
Teresa's always kind that way.
No, no, what are your petpeeves, but?
But?
Cynthia Lopez (23:05):
she's always kind that way.
She always wants to clean.
Yeah, yeah, yeah, no, my it's.
It's funny.
It's a funny thing that I havewith her a pet peeve is that she
always wants to save papertowels, like she'll reuse the
paper towels.
She doesn't want to waste themand I'm like throw it away yeah,
okay, yeah, yeah, that's that's.
Carmen Lezeth (23:24):
That's.
That's a weird ism, but I thinkthat's from culture, that's
from growing up poor in hondurasand wanting to save everything.
Like you know, I have somebodywho saves plastic bags, so, like
, let's say, you put um, you putI don't know, like whatever,
you put nuts.
I forget what I had.
Like cas, I had like cashews ina, in a baggie, like a sandwich
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bag or whatever, because youknow, the box was this big and
there was only so I put them ina sandwich bag or whatever.
And so when we were finishedeating I think it was cashews or
something, we're finishing thecashews I went to go throw the
thing, I put it on the counterand the next, like the next
minute later, she, she was inthere and I'm just saying who it
is washing out the plasticsandwich bag like a Ziploc
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sandwich bag, putting it insideout and then putting it in the
rack for it to dry so I can useit again.
She's like it was just nuts andI'm like, yeah, but they were
in, I don't know.
They're like she's right, she'sright, but you throw it out.
Here in the united states wewaste a lot but they're not
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wrong.
But I still can't, I can't likewouldn't you?
Cynthia Lopez (24:40):
guys throw it away I would throw it away, juan
would save it.
Carmen Lezeth (24:45):
Oh really, he would, because it was just nuts,
it was just cashews.
Cynthia Lopez (24:51):
Yeah, and I'm always there throwing it away.
Carmen Lezeth (24:55):
Yeah, that Paper towels is hard though, because
that's wet and you and it'sdirty, oh, but it's drying it,
it's drying yeah.
Rick Costa (25:07):
I'll never forget watching Oprah one time.
Look at Rick's face.
I guess the show was aboutcheap people and there was a guy
that he would take the toilet,roll the entire thing and split
it if it was a two-ply.
Oh stop it and he put it up andOprah's like but wouldn't you
just double it up anyway?
Isn't that a stupid waste oftime?
Carmen Lezeth (25:28):
Right, that's crazy.
Right, because you could justtake one little piece of the two
ply.
Right, we're going down a wholeother road.
I don't want to, but here's thething I'm going to just say,
because I do want to defendpeople.
I actually the people I'mtalking about.
I don't think it's about beingcheap, because Teresa is not
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cheap no, she's not, she's notcheap at all but it's about
culture, it's about growing upand learning that.
And here's the thing.
You know what the truth is.
I mean, we all would throw itaway with the cashews.
Right, I had cashews in the bag, but she's not wrong, and this
wasn't Teresa, this was somebodyelse.
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They're not wrong.
It was just cash.
You could save it and use itfor something else.
Cynthia Lopez (26:15):
But I think because as Americans, we don't
really recycle in that way andwe really were not thoughtful in
that way- yeah, there was, wasactually there was a meme saying
you know, um, it was, and itwas about latinos, latinos
saving the planet.
One paper towel or a t-shirt ata time, and you see them saving
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the paper towel, saving theplastic bag, using an old
t-shirt as a mop, yeah.
Or like to clean the furnitureand stuff like that, which is
what we used to do as kids, yeah, and you just wash it and reuse
it.
Carmen Lezeth (26:48):
Well, a t-shirt is better to clean anyway.
People don't understand that.
For the like I, I'm going to becareful what I say when my home
is clean.
That's actually what they'reusing they because it's old
school, but it's better becauseit picks up all the dust better
and everything too.
So that's that's also smart.
But it's better because itpicks up all the dust better and
everything too.
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So that's also smart.
But yeah, it's true, I thinkthere's a lot of things.
I think we waste a lot asAmericans, but we also, you know
and I'm saying this as anAmerican myself we're also not
that smart because those thingsactually work.
I did not know we were going togo down this avenue, basically
dissing all Americans and how wefunction in society.
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Sorry.
Rick Costa (27:32):
I thought another pet peeve we already mentioned
this with jobs is the mindreading thing, like I can't tell
you how many times withrelationship.
You should just know.
Carmen Lezeth (27:45):
Oh yeah.
Rick Costa (27:46):
But I didn't Right.
You should, yeah, but I didn'tRight.
You should know, but I didn't.
And then I have a whole bigfight about something I didn't
know, because I'm not a mindreader unless you tell me.
Carmen Lezeth (27:57):
I don't know.
Is that the difference betweenmen and women, though?
Remember that whole book, Marsvs Venus, or something, where
they talk about how mencommunicate in caves?
I don't even know.
I don't remember the book.
I did read it once, but I readand I think there were some
aspects of it.
On reading it, as a woman onthe man's side, I got it.
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It's about how to communicatewith each other.
You know and I'm actually thetype of person even though I
talk a lot, I do when I'm in arelationship and we get into a
fight and you guys know this,cause I've had little arguments
with each of you I need a minute.
I'm not going to keep fightingwith you.
I will be quiet and need to getaway for a day or so and then
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we can get back to it.
And Cynthia, Cynthia is.
Cynthia Lopez (28:46):
What about me?
Carmen Lezeth (28:48):
You are, when we have our little.
We had, I think, one fight yeah.
Cynthia Lopez (28:55):
One argument.
Carmen Lezeth (28:56):
Was it one argument?
Do you remember?
I don't even remember what itwas about.
I don't even remember.
I don't remember.
But Cynthia gets mad, shedoesn't want to talk to you at
all, she just gets really quiet.
Rick Costa (29:08):
I took you in a little bit of a retreat mode.
The other day we were talkingabout La La Land and you were
the only one that liked it.
Cynthia Lopez (29:16):
Oh right.
Rick Costa (29:18):
He's like I hate it and Cindy's like yes.
And you're like huh.
Carmen Lezeth (29:26):
Well, here's my thing about that.
So, you're right, I do, becauseI'm not going to fight with
people and I'm certainly notgoing to fight with a majority
of people about something.
And I'm going to say this aswith and I know it's going to
get people really upset.
I know, when it comes to art, Ithink Hating something, it's
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kind of like you know we can run, I say I hate country music,
but I would never disrespect itand I would never.
I would never dismiss it ordismiss other people for hating
it.
You know what I mean Like, andI actually respect country music
.
You know as much as I canaround about hating it or
whatever, and I think that'swhat it is.
You know it's kind of, um, Idon't like when people all right
(30:11):
, I'm going to defend it thisway as well when you're on a
movie set and you see how muchwork it takes to create
something so magnificent, andthen you see something like La
La Land or whatever it is itdoesn't matter Star Trek, it
doesn't matter whatever it isyou want to, when you see how
it's made, even if it's bad, youknow how much work it took to
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do it.
And I will honestly tell you, laLa Land may not be your flavor,
but it's one of those movies orone of those moments in time
where people either love it orthey hate it.
It just is what it is.
You know what I mean and I'mjust saying respect it.
And I think that's that's whatyou felt.
There was.
A part of me was heartbroken byhearing and I know we're being
(30:58):
funny and it was funny, whateverbut it first of all, I was
shocked at that much like of allthe movies you could pick to
hate.
I was like, threw me for a loop, you know.
But I think that's kind of thething too is like for me.
I'm also.
You know I studied film incollege.
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Uh, I, you know, y'all know Icame out here to be a I I love
film.
So there are very few filmsthat you're ever going to hear
me talk about in that negativekind of nasty way.
It would never.
I would never.
I may not like something, I maydislike it.
It may not be my genre.
It may not be something I thinkis well-made, but I would never
be that angst about it.
(31:40):
Does that make sense?
And I know you guys are beingfunny, but I you know, and the
fucking mario was hilarious.
I think I did the clip for thatright because it was so funny,
um, but yeah what?
Rick Costa (31:54):
movie was that?
Carmen Lezeth (31:54):
because we didn't say it in the clip yeah, yeah,
oh, the first clip because Iused it as a teaser, the first
clip for the, for people to comeand see the sunday show,
because that's see, I'm tryingto do.
I'm trying to do new thingstrying to do new things.
But yeah, I mean, that's kind ofa great example.
Like you know, one of myclients, you know, screamed and
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yelled at me and two otherpeople in a meeting and
everyone's first reaction isthey think I'm going to get up
and start screaming back, or I'mgoing to, you know, and I I get
up and walked away, you know,and I'm just like when, when you
can respect me, we can have aconversation, but I'm not going
to scream back and forth withpeople.
I mean, I've done it, but youknow what I'm saying.
So, yeah, yeah, I need a minute.
Rick Costa (32:39):
I think I tend to not automatically trash
something.
I instead go to.
But what if we did it like this, and I the possibilities and
like, oh, this could be better,like this, instead of just
trashing something that'strashed, I don't like it.
My brain goes to how could wehave made it better?
Carmen Lezeth (32:56):
like, that's kind of how my brain goes to or is
it possible that it's just notyour thing.
Like I don't have to makeanything better.
Like it doesn't matter how muchyou love whatever horror movie
you love, like there is nothinggoing to make it better, except
that it's a different movie,that isn't about horror.
It's just not my thing.
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It's also like when I go to themuseum or something and I see
you know, uh, who who is.
Is it picasso?
Is it?
Is it Picasso?
Who did all the kind of I don'tknow.
It's not just abstract, butit's like everyone's face is
like crooked, yeah, picasso.
And everyone's like, oh my God.
And I'm like, yeah, not mything, I see nothing in that.
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For me, I think it's weird, it'sderanged, it makes no sense.
And yet if you look at Pollockand if you don't know who
Pollock is but Pollock did allthe drops of paint on canvas
which is just like chaotic messand he was an alcoholic and he's
probably high half the timewhen he was doing it.
But for me that's alsoconsidered abstract art.
But for me I love it becauseit's colorful, I see patterns,
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even though there's in chaos andeven though in my head and in
my heart that makes sense to me,that, to me Picasso is
ridiculous, like in my I meannot ridiculous, I respect the
art, but you know what I meanLike I have no joy in it.
I'm like, yeah, that doesn'twork for me, but yet Pollock is
just a mess of and I'm likethat's lovely, I would pay $1
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million for that, right yeah,yeah, when I first saw Picasso's
stuff not realizing that's kindof a style in and of itself
yeah, my first thought was whosefour-year-old drew that?
I agree.
I mean, look, I'm not trying todiss Picasso, I'm just saying
that's kind of the difference.
But yeah, I had the samefeeling and the same kind of,
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and also I kept thinking, likethis is somebody with like
issues of the human spirit.
That's where I went, like whyelse would you break up
someone's face and do that?
And and you know, and again,that's what art does, that's the
beauty of it, you know?
Rick Costa (35:11):
um, yeah, yeah, it was shocking and they have
somebody sell something for likea ton of money and it was all
it was was a banana with tape tothe wall or something, or
that's the most I'm like you arekidding me yeah.
Carmen Lezeth (35:27):
And then they did a Super Bowl commercial with
Chris Hemsworth eating thebanana.
That was the art piece.
You didn't see it.
Yes, it's like all the Chris's.
I think it was like ChrisHemsworth or Chris Pratt or
something, I don't know.
I don't know who was in thecommercial, but basically
they're walking around a museumor something.
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I don't know who was in thecommercial, but basically
they're walking around a museumor something and all of a sudden
you know they see that piece,which is the banana with the
silver tape across it, andthey're like whatever.
And then you know they shoot tosomething else.
And then Chris comes over withthe banana and he's eating it,
and then the other I forget whothe other actor was.
I don't know why.
I think it's Chris Pratt.
Rick Costa (36:04):
Chris Pratt.
Carmen Lezeth (36:10):
I don know who the other actor was.
I don't know why.
I think it's chris pratt, chrisparrot, I don't know who it was,
but the other actor's like whatdid you do?
And he's like I was hungry orsomething.
Yeah, I look at.
That's a great example of apiece of art that I honestly I
don't get why it's so likeenough for people to spend
millions of dollars.
I don't get.
I understand why the artistmade the piece, even if it's,
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but why would anyone want to buythat for millions of dollars?
Like you could do it yourselfat home.
I could do it myself.
Rick Costa (36:41):
I think it's like a one-time, like a first time
one-time thing, cause then, oh,I'm going to do that too and
we'll put a tape on the Apple,whatever, but nobody's going to
care because it's already beendone before.
Carmen Lezeth (36:52):
I know, but then, but I know, but I don't.
But you see what I'm saying,like so then I don't get it
right.
Like I'm over here like beinglike can you subscribe to my sub
stack?
Don't worry about paying likeeight dollars a month or
something, just do the free one.
And here are people putting afucking banana with a piece of
tape over and getting billionsof dollars, you know.
(37:13):
And here I am spending likefour days writing my first
article.
I'm just saying it's justinteresting.
That's the brilliance of art,right um so yeah, I I will say.
Getting back to the pet peevething, I think that's one of my
pet peeves is when peopledisrespect especially.
(37:35):
It's not just art, but for me,because I love film so much, it
hurts me, I don't know.
But that's why you saw meretreat when that happened.
First of all I was shook by themovie, but it it was also like
I've always loved Hollywood,it's always been a part of me.
And being on set I mean youguys have been on set, you've
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seen movies being shot orwhatever, and it's fascinating,
right.
And I think when you see howmany thousands of people
especially for La La Land, butfor any movie that it takes to
just create a movie, even ifit's horror, I'm like okay, not
my thing, but respect, I'd loveto film a movie and I'm hoping
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to create at least a script forit and I would love to do that.
But it takes a lot of work anda lot of money.
Rick Costa (38:32):
Yeah, and a lot of people.
Carmen Lezeth (38:37):
Now I'm sad, I'm like I'm never going to be able
to, you know, to create a movieor something I want to.
I think it'd be so cool.
I have a storyline and in placeto do it and yeah, again it's
that thing.
Like you know what my pet peeveis?
Can I tell you that everythingtakes money.
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You don't have money, you can'tdo, do jack unless you got a
banana I was.
Somebody has to give you themoney for that banana with the.
She got a banana.
Somebody has to give you themoney for that banana with the.
What's that silver tape called?
I keep calling it silver tape.
Duct tape, duct tape.
Yeah, I keep calling it.
Rick Costa (39:16):
That's all it was.
It was just plain duct tape,it's a banana with duct tape.
Carmen Lezeth (39:19):
And here's the thing you have to change out the
banana every few months that'spart of the art piece because
the banana is rotten.
You few months, that's part ofthe art piece because you're
ripe.
I'm like, I'm just saying Ithink one of my pet peeves is
that the world functions onmoney.
And, um, I still wouldn't doanything differently than the
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way I have done it my entirelife, because it's all I could
do is pursue my dreams the way Icould.
Um, because somebody was askingme the other day, would you say
it's all I could do is pursuemy dreams the way I could.
Because somebody was asking methe other day, would you say
it's more important for youngpeople today to try to make as
much money as possible beforethey pursue their dream.
And I'm like I don't even knowif I could have ever done that.
(39:59):
I don't think I could have everjust been like, okay, my focus
has to be making a lot of moneyand then I'll go and pursue my
dream.
Because I don't.
I think when you have a passionand a dream, that's what
encompasses you, but this worldis all about money and unless
you know somebody who gives areal shit about your banana and
(40:20):
duct tape art piece.
Rick Costa (40:24):
I think that's why we like Star Trek so much,
because that's, that's passe.
There is no.
Oh, let me get paid.
No, pay, what's that?
What's that?
Carmen Lezeth (40:31):
Well, the power structure is different, right?
I mean, I think that's kind ofwhat it is.
And I mean so we're onlytalking about the enterprise,
the world of the enterprise wesee, and what we think the
Federation is like, right, andwhat the world is like.
Cynthia is like do I even needto be here?
But you, you've seen star trek,so you understand.
(40:53):
But money, there's no, there'snot a money thing.
It's not like oh I, I need tocreate a shakespearean play and
I have to charge people.
No, you just go and work on andthen you invite people and you
do your thing, you know.
But I said this the other day ifit wasn't money, it would be
something else in order tosucceed, because it seems to be
(41:17):
the way in which humans are.
Everything is about if I giveyou something, you have to give
me something in return to getthat thing.
If I give you something, youhave to give me something in
return to get that thing Right.
So, if you need wood to makeyour house and I have the wood I
can't just give it to you forfree, because maybe I need eggs
(41:38):
and maybe you have a chicken orsomething.
I don't know.
I'm not trying to be sosimplistic about it, but when
you think about how this,especially in our country
capitalism, how it all started,I mean, I think that's kind of
the thing is, we don't do thingsjust to do them out of the
graciousness of our heart andbecause we want you to succeed,
which is what the story of StarTrek is right.
(42:00):
It's like they want Data tosucceed so badly at being human.
They're like, yes, read thisbook, yes, try this, yes, play
this, this musical instrument.
And so he just does it.
They do that because they wanthim to succeed.
We don't do that in thiscountry especially, but we don't
do that in the world.
We don't do anything withoutgetting something for it.
(42:22):
And I'm not, I'm not trying tobe mean, I'm just saying no,
it's true, that's true.
Rick Costa (42:26):
I think there's always been bartering.
That's the thing at times.
So I saw somebody postingsomething the other day that
their electricity had gotten cutoff.
They didn't have the money andthey're freezing they're really
cold and the refrigerator food'sgetting spoiled and I felt so
horrible.
I was like why can't I be amillionaire?
(42:46):
Because I would, in a splitsecond, give you whatever you
need.
That's in me to do that Like Iwould definitely do that without
thinking twice.
Carmen Lezeth (42:57):
And I'm like I'm broke too.
Darn it, I can't.
I want it so bad.
I think one of the things thatwas interesting about that is
this is somebody who would neverpost on Facebook and Instagram
that they needed help.
This is like and I'm a knock onwood right now I would never
post on Facebook and Instagramsaying I need help and please
(43:17):
can you give me some money.
And that's how I knew this wasfor real real and, by the way,
this is someone who has spenttheir entire life helping other
people and they got into a badspace.
They got into a bad place and Iwas like I was the same way,
(43:38):
rick.
I was like fuck, if I had themoney, I would just be like girl
, take those posts down.
I got you.
I would just send her thefucking money.
But you know what ended uphappening?
People were on there being likeis this, this is how?
This is how much I knew.
It was so heart wrenching forher.
All of her friends on Facebooknot all of them A lot of them
were like is this really you?
(43:59):
You would never do this.
I need somebody to have aconversation with.
And she's like I don't have anypower.
Cynthia Lopez (44:05):
I can't get on a FaceTime call, so then people
are like and I'm sorry that isnot a friend, because if that
was your friend you wouldautomatically just call them hey
, are you okay?
Carmen Lezeth (44:15):
That's what somebody else did and said to
verify.
So there's the part wherepeople are unsure if that's her
on Facebook.
Because, cynthia, it would belike if I went on Facebook and
wrote it really is like this IfI were to go on Facebook and say
I'm having a really hard time,I don't have any electricity on
right now, I don't have anymoney.
(44:36):
Can you please go to my Venmoand send me some cash?
I'm trying to raise enoughmoney.
Blah, blah, blah to get mylights back on.
Cynthia Lopez (44:44):
First of all I'm not going to send you a text,
I'm not going to send youanother message on Facebook.
I'm going to call you.
Carmen Lezeth (44:50):
I know, but you can't reach her because her
phone is not working.
That's the problem she's having.
So I understand why people onFacebook are freaking the fuck
out, cause they don't think it's, because I don't think anyone
believes that I would do that,so that's number one.
And so that's number one.
And then you can't really callme because they don't have any
electricity.
You know what I mean.
So she took a moment to post onFacebook and Instagram so that
(45:11):
she could get some help, and sopeople are all like is this
really her?
I need somebody to do aFaceTime to check.
Somebody hacked her account andI'm like, oh my God, and I know
that that's her Venmo.
Rick Costa (45:28):
I know that that's her.
You know what I mean, like, andI don't even know her super
well, but just from little keythings she wrote.
I knew it was her, I didn'tquestion it, I knew it was her.
Carmen Lezeth (45:32):
But I understand why people you know what I mean
said like, I know what you'resaying, but I know why somebody
questioned it, because somethingthat no one would ever expect.
You would never expect me to,cynthia, if I wrote that on
Facebook.
I hope you would question itbecause you'd be like, wait, why
didn't Carmen call me first?
You know what I mean, like,what is happening, like.
But I think that's kind of thething it's like and and I know,
(45:55):
rick, I agree with you I mean,it's one of my pet peeves.
I wish I had enough money,cause I it's money.
No one should be without fuckingelectricity in this country.
Nobody should be homeless inthis fucking country.
Nobody should be suffering thisbadly.
(46:17):
I don't give a fuck.
And this idea that people arelazy or that people that's not
what it is either.
We fall on hard times, thingshappen, things are extremely
expensive Medical care.
We are all one paycheck awayfrom being homeless.
I don't give a fuck who you are, unless you are Elon Musk or
(46:38):
all these other people who gotmoney, money, money.
Everybody, my, I have clientswho have lots of money, who
freaked out because they losthalf a million dollars and are
now not going to hire somebodythat we need to hire because
they're so afraid of the market.
That's somebody who has money,money not me money, money, money
, money.
(46:58):
You know what I mean.
And they're freaking out and sobecause they have a family, you
know, and they have to helppeople and they take care of
people and it's like so what doyou think the rest of us are
doing?
Rick Costa (47:11):
Another pet peeve I have is people that say oh yeah,
me too.
I live paycheck to paycheck.
The next day be like check outmy new shoes, Ain't they cool?
I'm like, no, Come to me withno paycheck.
All I buy is food.
That's it, what you mean.
You live paycheck to paycheck.
Carmen Lezeth (47:28):
I know, okay, you mean you live paycheck to
paycheck.
I know, okay, I feel a littleguilty there because, um, I,
yeah, I do live paycheck topaycheck.
I just don't have children oranyone to take care of, and so I
am, you know, gonna go get myhair done soon.
No, um, I just I agree with you.
I think it's also people whocry poverty and use money
(47:51):
unwisely.
You know what I mean, um, andso I agree with you.
I think it's also people whocry poverty and use money
unwisely.
You know what I mean, so Iagree with you.
I actually do have to get myhair done, but, if you've
noticed, I haven't.
So because I know, I mean, themarket is volatile, and I also
know two of my clients who losttheir homes are not going to be
able to keep paying us.
You know they lost them duringthe fires, so I already know
(48:12):
things are about to get tighttoo.
But that's what I mean.
Like, I mean, will I be okayfor a couple months?
Sure, but after that?
And what am I going to do aboutmy housekeeper and my Botox?
Rick Costa (48:27):
Get out that t-shirt .
Carmen Lezeth (48:37):
Get out that t-shirt.
I already told her.
I already told her that afterJune I couldn't have her anymore
.
She doesn't know.
But that's what you do you tryto set yourself up.
Oh my god, it's such adepressing.
Rick Costa (48:50):
It's supposed to be funny or laugh, at least
laughing in a way.
Carmen Lezeth (48:56):
I know.
I just hope that our friend gotwhat she needed.
I think, um, I think everyonepulled together and, uh, helped
her out, so I hope she goteverything she needed and that
she's okay.
And what a tough situation tobe in.
But I think that's probably oneof my biggest pet peeves for
this country is we have an ideaof what homelessness is.
(49:18):
We have an idea of what povertyis.
We have an idea of what need is.
And I'm sorry, in this country,in this great country of ours,
no one should ever be in thatsituation.
Really.
No, we have so much.
We really should not ever be.
And that's not about laziness,that's not about pull yourself
(49:39):
up by your bootstraps, it's notabout fucking socialism.
It's about this country has somuch abundance.
And if we were kind and lovelyto each other and if we were
people who really cared abouteach other as neighbors, we
wouldn't look at a homelessperson and just assume that they
deserve to be there right.
Rick Costa (50:00):
I mean, have these people even talk to them?
I mean that I just actually Ijust did it once where we was a
bunch of church people.
He went one night and justtalked to homeless people and
that changed me.
It really did.
It's like, wow, some of thesepeople some of them, yes,
they're a little mentally so youkind of understand why they're
in a situation Some of them justfell on hard times.
(50:21):
They just couldn't get back ontrack, you know.
Carmen Lezeth (50:25):
Can we explain the mentally thing?
Can I give you a scenario andI'm not really saying it for you
, I'm saying it for other peoplebecause that's one of my pet
peeves.
Okay, so let me put it to youthis way.
So the other day I I actuallydid a TikTok about it.
I went to the grocery store andI bought a bottle of wine.
And then I bought like asmaller bottle of wine, like
there's these cute little um,I'd show it to you, but I
(50:48):
already drank it.
It's like a little.
It's like a little one.
You can just get like twoglasses.
I've never seen like a miniwine bottle.
You know what I'm talking about.
So I did a TikTok about it and Iwas cracking up and so I was
just having a day.
So I was like you know, I'mgonna have a glass of wine or
whatever, but anyways, so I havea glass of wine because I had a
(51:09):
tough day.
So can you imagine if I washomeless and on the street,
having a really tough bunch ofdays strung together and
couldn't find my way to theshelter, I got harassed by some
(51:30):
guy who was drunk and all handsyor whatever, because if you've
ever been to a homeless shelter.
It's not like you all have yourown private rooms, okay, um, or
maybe when I went to go gethelp, snap benefits or welfare
benefits or something just totry to get me out of the
situation I'm in.
(51:50):
Because actually what happenedto me was I had a medical
surgery thing that happened, andthen at the same time my
husband died, and when he died Ididn't get any of his social
security benefits because of alittle snafu in the system that
said I didn't get to earn them.
And then I got into a medicaldilemma and then oh, by the way
(52:14):
I ended up not being able to paythe rent because I was a
caretaker while my husband wasalive, dealing with cancer or
whatever, and so I lost my job.
I'm just spitballingpossibilities here of stories I
know have happened, have we'veall heard.
But that's how it happened.
It doesn't mean that thatperson wasn't a valuable human
(52:37):
being with ideas and a heart andpassions, but when things go
bad, they can go very, very bad,and then you end up in a
shelter, you end up trying toget help.
It gets harder and harder.
It is actually easier,especially if you live in
California I can't say the samefor Vermont or Boston.
But if you live in California,it is so much easier to sleep on
(53:00):
that beach with the beautifulsky at night, with the waves
rolling, with your glass of winethat maybe you bought with some
money you panhandled becauseyou've had a bad day.
You see where I'm going withthis.
You see how easy it is tobecome an alcoholic or to become
(53:22):
someone who's constantly tryingto just rid yourself of the
pain that you're in by drinking.
But I'm not advocating for it.
I'm not saying this is whatshould happen.
I'm saying there but for thegrace of God, go.
I, motherfucking bitches, stopbeing an ass to homeless people.
And Rick, what you said seepeople for who they are.
Rick Costa (53:45):
Yeah, I bet so many of them probably say to
themselves I don't even get here.
I can't believe this.
All of them probably say tothemselves.
Carmen Lezeth (53:53):
I don't even get here.
I can't believe this.
All of them say that and youknow, drugs is the easiest way
to.
I just told you I drank youknow a little mini bottle of
wine because I had a hard day.
I can't imagine what it wouldbe like, you know, okay.
So maybe somebody gives you a$10 bill or something you know,
when you're panhandling, maybewhatever you get like 20.
I don't know how much peoplemake panhandling, but maybe it's
(54:17):
enough to like get you food.
But why get food when you canget high and not think about it
anymore?
But we all want to be somoralistic, right?
We all want to be like, but Iwould, you know what.
What's $10 going to get you?
$10 ain't going to get you anapartment.
Rick Costa (54:37):
You have so little pleasure as it is, so why not?
Carmen Lezeth (54:40):
That's what I'm saying, yeah, I mean, you know
we keep talking about pet peeves, but my pet peeve is us being
heartless and unkind.
But then saying that we wouldbe Right, yeah, I would help
anybody really those are thesame ones that say I got you, I
(55:01):
got you.
I'm here for you.
I will support you bysubscribing to your sub stack or
your YouTube channel.
I got you, Carmen.
I got you exactly, I got you.
Exactly.
Yeah, pet peeves about yourneighbors.
Yeah, I'm not going to waste mytime on them.
Cynthia Lopez (55:23):
How about traveling?
Pet peeves about traveling.
Do you have a pet?
Bed bugs?
That is number one's funny um.
Carmen Lezeth (55:38):
What's your pet peeve about traveling?
Cynthia Lopez (55:41):
not being at the airport on time.
Carmen Lezeth (55:44):
I hate rushing at the airport on time.
Oh, I'm, I'm always on time atthe row.
Cynthia Lopez (55:52):
I always have to tell people that our flight
leaves about a half hour to anhour earlier than what it does,
so that we can get there on timeand have enough time to relax
are?
Carmen Lezeth (56:04):
are we when we're talking about people?
Are the people we're talkingabout one?
Cynthia Lopez (56:09):
and we bring it full circle.
Carmen Lezeth (56:19):
Oh yeah, there's a woman on Tik TOK who I forget
what her name is, but I followher on Tik TOK and she goes up
to random people and asks themquestions and she'll say things
and she's black, she's a blackwoman and what she's actually
asking them is questions to seeif they know anything about
being black.
Oh, she'll go up to blackpeople and ask them and she'll
(56:41):
be like what, what, what, what.
Rick Costa (56:44):
Lexi, yeah, soul school.
Yeah, that's Lexi.
Carmen Lezeth (56:46):
Soul school.
It's so funny so she'll go upand ask them, like if I say I'm
uh 20 minutes away, what time amI gonna get there?
Of course, the answer is likean hour and a half.
Cynthia Lopez (56:57):
Right, that's the answer so she does all those I
saw.
I saw her one time and she wasasking a white girl and she knew
all the answers.
She goes, she's invited to thebarbecue, yeah she goes you sure
you weren't black in yourprevious life, right?
Carmen Lezeth (57:15):
well my favorite one, because it really is really
distinct is like she'll be,like god is good, and white
people always say god is great.
The answer is all the timeright, all the time, all the
time god is good.
It's so funny.
Rick Costa (57:32):
Yeah, it always cracks me up I can't go to, and
she's like who is booboo thefool?
I don't know, I don't know, Idon't know don't understand mom
and them.
Carmen Lezeth (57:48):
Do you guys get what mom and them is?
It's mom and them.
So when she says who's mom andthem, everyone's like, uh, what
I don't know?
It's like mom and them.
So it's anybody, it's all youranybody, the mailman, the
anybody who's in the room at thetime mom and them.
It just it's so funny because Ia smart, interesting TikTok, I
(58:11):
mean brilliant and I didn't knowyou guys followed her.
Okay, cool.
Thank you so much, that was somuch fun.
Thank you so much for being inthe private lounge and remember
at the end of the day, oh, Ishould do a little bit of
promoting ourselves.
Huh, why not?
Yeah, so we are on YouTube.
You can find it under my name,which is Carmen Lee set.
(58:32):
You can also try to Google itall about the joy, but I don't
think it comes up under YouTubethere.
But you can also go toaatjoycom to find all of our
links.
Please also come and check usout on Friday nights at 6 PM
Pacific, 9 PM Eastern, where wehave our live show and anyone
(58:53):
can come and join in in the chatand sometimes we'll have you
come on if you have time.
We had a great show last weekwith somebody.
Where was he from, I forget.
Rick Costa (59:02):
Maslam from England, michael, but I'm so used to
calling him Maslam, that'salways how he is.
Carmen Lezeth (59:06):
Yeah, but he was from Turkey.
He's originally from Turkey,but he was from Turkey.
He's originally from Turkey.
Yeah, he's originally fromTurkey.
It was really nice and he cameon and that was really fun, and
Brian joined us too, and thatwas a great time.
So, yeah, check us out onFriday night.
We're looking forward to seeingyou there, and that's it.
But remember, at the end of theday, it really is all about the
joy.
(59:26):
Bye everyone, good night, bye.
Bye everyone.
Bye.
Thanks for stopping by.
All About the Joy.
Be better and stay beautifulfolks.
Rick Costa (59:37):
Have a sweet day.
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