May 4, 2025 • 24 mins
This special episode is all about - a surprise tribute to Rick Costa, my steadfast co-host who has no idea this compilation is happening!
Through selected clips from our broadcasts in 2022 and 2023, I showcase the essence of Rick - kind, humble, supportive, and impossibly difficult to get to say anything negative about anyone (though occasionally I can get him to swear a little). These moments reveal how our partnership works despite fundamental differences in beliefs and perspectives, proving that creative collaborations don't require identical worldviews to thrive.
The compilation takes you through hilarious stories about "pink poodle" code words from Periscope days, shared pet peeves about inconsiderate drivers and grocery store behavior, and the origin of Rick's "Pastor Rick" nickname. What emerges is a portrait of a friendship built on mutual respect and support, where differences in religious beliefs and personal styles become strengths rather than obstacles.
What makes our partnership work is that beneath surface disagreements, we share core values about compassion, empathy, and kindness. As I note in the episode, "It's not that you have to agree on everything on the planet...but fundamentally, you believe in the same things that are good." This tribute celebrates how different perspectives can create the strongest creative partnerships when built on a foundation of genuine respect.
Join us for this heartfelt look at friendship, collaboration, and the behind-the-scenes magic that makes All About the Joy possible. What person in your creative life deserves a similar tribute?
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Music By Geovane Bruno, Moments, 3481
Editing by Team A-J
Host, Carmen Lezeth
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Carmen Lezeth (00:02):
Hey everyone, welcome to All About the Joy,
the private lounge.
This week we're doing somethinga little tiny bit different.
I have compiled a few differentvideos from back in the day
basically from 2022 and 2023,and they are all about Rick
Costa.
Actually, he has no idea I'mdoing this and I have to say
(00:26):
that my acting skills are chef'skiss perfect.
He was asking me this weekend,after we did a recording, if I
wanted to get together at adifferent time so that we could
record something, because heknew on Thursday I was not able
to do our regular recording.
And he's just.
Rick Costa is the nicest guyright.
(00:46):
Anybody who knows him knowsthat he's a really cool, nice,
kind of even keeled kind ofperson, and I just wanted to
take a moment to say thank youto him Because since we started
this since I reached out to himand asked if he wanted to be on
the show and then subsequentlyasked him if he wanted to be on
the show and then subsequentlyasked him if he wanted to
co-host he's always beensupportive, kind and as helpful
(01:09):
as possible and he's never beenmean or cruel or well.
Sometimes he's mean no, he'snot.
But my point is is I've nevertaken a moment to really just
say thank you, and I wanted todo it in this way, and so I've
gathered together some clipsthat I think are kind of fun and
telling about who he is, and Ihope he understands what he
(01:33):
means to me.
So enjoy.
Rick Costa (01:35):
So she was a pink poodle.
I don't remember that.
Did I tell you about that?
Carmen Lezeth (01:39):
What's a pink poodle?
Rick Costa (01:42):
So on Periscope there were women that everybody
in the world could see.
But stupid, ignorant, dumb,naive me that clearly they
wanted some Rick and I'm likehuh.
And so they were like we needto come up with something to let
Rick know this chick is tryingto get with you.
(02:02):
So they came up with we're'regonna type in pink poodle,
that's your clue.
Carmen Lezeth (02:08):
And I'm like, oh, shoot, okay that is so random
pink poodle but that's so good.
It's kind of like.
I mean, there's a little bitdifferent.
But when I was growing up Iused to always like when I would
talk to people on the phone,like if I was in danger, I would
just say tomatoes, and it's inthe front cover of my book and
unless you know, you don't know.
(02:28):
But I used to say like I'd betalking on the phone and I would
just start talking abouttomatoes.
This is like a code word.
I think one of the coolestthings about Rick is that you
can never get him to sayanything bad about anyone.
You know what I mean.
But sometimes there are thesemoments and this next clip will
show you where you can even gethim to swear a little bit.
(02:51):
Enjoy.
Okay, let me just tell you whatthe what, the podcast.
So the podcast and what I wrotewere about pet peeves like
people not using blinkersers,which is what we call them in
boston, but directionals youknow when, when you're driving.
But I kind of listed out like10 of them.
(03:12):
Um, people using their cellphones on speaker while you're
in the vicinity of a publicspace.
Um, people having sex in myapartment building, which is
fine, knock yourselves out, butlike just screaming, like
there's a I hate to say it, butthere's somebody who lives above
me and I want to go and knockon the door and be like,
(03:38):
seriously, if you can't tellthat she's lying, that she's
faking it, I'm here to tell youthat she is, but it's so loud,
I'm sorry.
Is that embarrassing you, rick?
Rick Costa (03:51):
Well, when I was a kid, we used to have tenants
upstairs.
This is a three-family house Ilive in.
Carmen Lezeth (03:55):
Yeah.
Rick Costa (03:56):
Yeah, on one of the apartments this woman was loud
and I'm like, what's happening?
I'm a kid, I don't know what.
I don't understand.
Like, what is all this noise?
What is happening?
Are they wrestling what's going?
Carmen Lezeth (04:10):
on you know what, but it's so like it's the
fakery of it that cracks me upand I can't stop laughing.
Anyway, I was just talkingabout kind of pet peeves on that
end and people actually likedthat episode.
Rick Costa (04:24):
But okay, what are?
Some of your pet peeves well,it's saying a lot of pretty much
the same ones, especiallydriving ones.
Um, like either use the turnsignal or we call turn signals
here or don't.
Don't do it after.
I already see your car'salready turning, I already know
you're turning, idiot.
What are you putting it on now?
For what?
The heck that pisses me off.
(04:48):
I'm sorry, that makes me reallymad.
That's hilarious.
Use youtube to watch otherpeople's videos yeah, definitely
definitely, but um stop signs.
I am a big proponent of stoppingat stop signs, but almost most
of my friends don't really care.
Carmen Lezeth (05:03):
People do a rolling stop here which is
basically not stopping right.
It's like you roll on, yeah.
Yeah, I think one of my bigpeeves I talk about was when
you're in the grocery store andsomebody is in front of you in
line and they're on the phoneand they're being so
disrespectful to the cashier.
I don't even understand.
(05:23):
Like.
I think I mentioned that in thepodcast.
I actually will call people outon that, because then they get
upset because they can't hearthe cashier but they're on their
bluetooth or whatever.
They're having their veryimportant phone call um, but I I
have.
I think as I get older, I'mless inclined to be okay with
people being rude to otherpeople in front of me.
(05:46):
I can't stand it.
Yeah, I can't stand it at all.
Rick Costa (05:49):
No, I've talked to people while I'm grocery
shopping, but then I'll be likeI'm getting in line, I gotta go
right there I'm getting in likebecause I'm gonna sit there and
talk to you and or something.
Carmen Lezeth (06:00):
No, that's just stupid right and so you know,
someone told me carmen, I don'tthink people realize I'm like
you know, that's just stupid,right.
And so you know, someone toldme Carmen, I don't think people
realize I'm like you know what.
That's the other thing.
If you check yourself, how arepeople not realizing like that's
not an excuse either?
You're a grown person.
You are not, you know, aseven-year-old kid that you
don't know.
When you're being rude, I mean,I just stop it, right, just
(06:24):
stop it.
Yeah, I'm going to be likegetting people mad at me because
I'm really adamant about thegrocery store thing, but yeah,
okay, another one.
What's another one?
Rick Costa (06:35):
This is like a personal one to be honest with
you.
So people that know me somewhatknow that I've literally been
broadcasting every single dayfor over six and a half years.
Never missed one day.
Maybe I'm crazy, but that's notthe point and then they'll be
like oh, I never get to see you.
(06:57):
I'm out every freaking day.
What do you mean?
You don't get to see me?
Carmen Lezeth (07:05):
That makes me so mad because they're just trying
to be nice and I don't know.
Yeah, all right, they're lying.
Yeah, that makes me crazy.
That is a pet peeve, but it'sbecause they're trying to say
they're interested.
They just haven't been able tocatch you.
Yeah, why do you do it everyday?
I'm crazy I don't think you'recrazy, but there must be a
(07:27):
reason.
It must be something in youthat that you feel it's always
about.
Uh, I say this respectfully, Iknow it's going to come across
badly, but it's because you'repreaching the word or whatever
right, which I'm not really into.
But you know, you know I'm arecovering Catholic.
So I think this next clip a lotof people know how we met, but
(07:52):
this is, I think, the first timehe actually explains how we met
, and I will also say that Rickis probably one of the most
humble people I've ever met.
It annoys me to no end, like Ican't stand it sometimes, but
there's a lot of things about usthat are so really different
(08:15):
and I think that kind of reallyhelps keep me happy and fresh
and kind of just in a greatspace, because I know that there
are things that we don't agreeon at all.
So why don't you tell peoplehow we met?
Rick Costa (08:34):
So this wonderful app that no longer exists called
Apps, that was just an amazingpositive experience.
I'm being so sarcastic rightnow.
Yeah, we just came across eachother on there, but I think the
one video I saw was when youwere with three other women and
(08:54):
you guys were talking about menand I was like, oh, this is
amazing.
This conversation is awesome.
I'm learning stuff right now.
And I was like that's when Iwas like, oh, I like these
people oh, that's so funny.
Carmen Lezeth (09:06):
I don't remember who that was, but that, that's.
That probably sounds like me,whatever.
Um, oh, that's hilarious.
Yeah, and I, when I first raninto or started getting to know
people on haps and anyone wholistens to me or is on our show
knows that I hate that app withevery fiber of my being, and I
say it every time, just to beclear part of it is because it
(09:28):
was just a very toxic place.
But there were pearls, therewere people, and you're one of
those people, rick, that Ithought um were pretty cool,
even though you and I do notbelieve in the same things, and
that's what I want to talk about.
So, rick costacom.
So when I first met rick, Ithought he was a pastor, because
(09:48):
everyone called you pastor,rick.
Rick Costa (09:51):
Well, I so how did that come about?
So it was on Periscope.
Carmen Lezeth (09:57):
Another app, wait , wait, yes, yes, periscope was
another app, right yeah.
Rick Costa (10:01):
Periscope was pretty big back in the day.
Actually, I think the secondyear it was out it became like
the number one app and that'swhen it really kind of pulled
and everybody was like on thatthing.
But funny enough, people havecalled me that like slipping,
sort of Like oh, pastor, I meanRick, like they've done that
(10:23):
like forever.
Even my own pastor has donethat in front of the church and
I'm like, hmm, what's that about?
Carmen Lezeth (10:28):
Yeah, but why you should tell people why.
Rick Costa (10:30):
Well, because I am super hardcore into the bible
and jesus and okay being alittle humble, let me.
Carmen Lezeth (10:38):
Let me intervene.
It's not just that you're superhardcore into the bible, but
that is part of it.
But you also have a dailyservice show that you do.
On, let me see if I got thisright Sunday through Friday at 3
pm Pacific.
(11:00):
Pacific and 6 pm Eastern, andit's about half an hour 45
minutes and you do a Biblereading.
You do a song that you all singtogether.
You have regular people thatcome on the show.
You read the Bible and then youhave like some games that you
do.
That I try to once in a whilecome and visit and I always kind
(11:21):
of into being when the gamesare going on because I think
they're fun and you do a lot ofpraying for other people and
stuff like that.
So you've been doing this foreight years now.
Every day is godly.
You have not missed a day,which you're very proud about
that.
And I'm all like we're doingthis podcast because we're
taking off Thanksgiving.
I have no interest whatsoeverin doing that, but
(11:45):
congratulations to you.
But the reason why I bring thatup is because I think that's
why people were calling you alsoPastor Rick is because you are
providing a religious service orsermon or I don't want to speak
for you, but why don't you tellpeople what you call it?
Rick Costa (12:00):
I mean that's what people just naturally started
doing.
And then it got to the pointwhere it happened so much, where
I was like, okay, I guess thisis happening, so I'm just going
to let it happen.
And I even changed my name onPeriscope to Pastor Ray Costa.
I was like we're just going togo with it, that's what it is.
And I mean I'm serving thepurpose of one.
(12:23):
You know I do.
What do I do?
That's different?
Not really much.
You know I.
There's like a little sermon,you know I.
I didn't.
I fought that for the longest Iwas like no, no, don't put that
(12:45):
on me, don't put that on me.
But then I was like all right,all right what?
Carmen Lezeth (12:50):
what's the big deal?
I mean, if I mean I, I mean Idon't know what the okay, so
let's just talk about we don'thave to go down why you are or
are not called Pastor Rick, andI understand you have a lot of
humility issues and being so.
I say that respectfully.
I think what's reallyinteresting sometimes is when
you make a decision to want todo something, especially
(13:12):
creatively, you have to havesomebody who is going to support
your idea right, somebody who'sgoing to be like in your corner
no matter what.
And I have to say it's one ofthe things I really appreciate
about Rick and he supports allabout the joy because he
believes in the mission and whatit is I'm trying to do, and so
(13:35):
I love that about him.
But what's really interestingis sometimes people aren't as
supportive as he is towards themand, uh, this clip kind of
shows that pet peeves.
Well, not even about pet peeves.
Rick Costa (13:49):
you can talk about other stuff, but whatever you
want, yeah, I'm just, I'm justthinking still like um acting
like I don't support you when Ido, but you don't never support
me like oh no, are you talkingabout me?
Carmen Lezeth (14:07):
I don't know.
Rick Costa (14:08):
No, no, not you personally, no, you do.
Carmen Lezeth (14:11):
But I do, but I don't no, you do, can't be no.
No, I support you as a friendbut I don't always support your
because I want everyone to knowit's not that I don't believe in
god.
I do, but I don't do the biblestuffage.
So I get a little turned offsometimes when you go down that.
(14:31):
But I feel bad because I try togo on TikTok and like stuff and
then you say something I'm likeno, I don't believe Jesus said
that.
I mean, I don't say that, butI'm like no, I don't believe
that, I don't believe it.
Yeah, but I don't want to dothat because I don't want to be
negative on your space, so thatI sometimes support you by not
writing anything yeah, no, I'lltotally get it, totally get it.
Rick Costa (14:54):
But but there'll be people that say like, oh gosh, I
never, I never hardly, I neverhardly see you on my videos and
I'm like, if we're gonna make acomparison, you never visit my
videos, and I do visit you everyonce in a while, like I don't
know, it's just annoying ittakes a lot of work too to go
and visit other people's.
Carmen Lezeth (15:14):
Like people got upset with me on Tik TOK because
I don't follow everybody,Everybody who follows me, I
don't follow them back.
I'm like I, I go on Tik TOK, Ido a thing and I will follow
people because I actually wantto watch your stuff, not just to
follow them.
Like, if I have 5,000 followers, I'm not going to follow 5,000
people because I'm not going towatch all 5,000 people.
Rick Costa (15:38):
No, it's interesting though I kind of have been
doing the follow for follow thiswhole time and I'm like, oh,
and I regret this probably oneday, but everything that comes
up for me, like you know youscroll, it's relevant stuff,
stuff that I actually aminterested in.
So, right algorithm, they gotgoing on behind the scenes.
Carmen Lezeth (15:58):
But that thing works well.
I think it's the things thatyou like.
So it's not about who youfollow, it's the things that you
like.
So the more you like certainthings, then you'll get more of
those uh videos.
But that's my problem withfollowing everybody who follows
me.
I don't like somebody'sfollowing me who's like a punk
rocker and I'm like I don't.
(16:18):
I think you sound horrible.
I don't like your genre ofmusic, but thank you for
following me, but I'm not goingto follow that person back.
Rick Costa (16:28):
Yeah, Well, I used to be like more like that on
Periscope and they'd be like, oh, follow me, follow.
Well, I used to be more likethat on Periscope and they'd be
like, oh, follow me, follow me,follow me.
And then I'd look at theirprofile and they have no videos
and I'm like follow you for whatyou don't broadcast.
Yeah, that's the other part,Right For what.
Carmen Lezeth (16:41):
There's no doubt that Rick and I don't agree on a
lot of things, but there aresome fundamental things that we
absolutely agree on, even whenit comes to religion, and I
think that's what you want tofind in someone when you're
trying to create or buildsomething, is you want to make
sure that the person that you'reworking with not only believes
(17:01):
in your mission but also hasyour back.
You know what I mean Is somebodywho is going to be there for
you, and I think that's hard ifyou don't have some fundamental
belief systems that are exactlythe same.
And even though Rick and I don'tbelieve in a lot of things,
when it comes to like you knowthe same, like politics or
religion or you know things likethat the truth is, at the end
(17:28):
of the day, we're both goodpeople, we're both compassionate
people, we both have a lot ofempathy for people, and I think
that's what's important.
It's not that you have to agreeon everything on the planet.
I think that would beimpossible and a little weird,
by the way, but I do think it'simportant that, fundamentally,
(17:49):
you believe in the same thingsthat are good and you believe in
the same things that are bad,and believe in the same things
that are bad and that at the endof the day, if you do argue
with each other or you do whichI don't know if we've ever had
any arguments, I couldn't findany clips of those but at the
end of the day, that even if youhave a disagreement, you can
have those disagreements, youcan apologize to each other and
(18:11):
then you can move forward, and Ithink Rick and I are really
good at that, especially witheach other.
But I feel like some of thesechurches.
I'm shook by the tithing andI'm okay.
I'm okay investing in somethingyou believe in, but if he's
driving a Rolls Royce, I'm justsaying I don't think that's what
(18:34):
Jesus would have thought whenyour flocking got food.
Rick Costa (18:37):
Yeah, that's definitely one of the big ones
too is they're like oh, theyjust want money, they just want
money and I want money,da-da-da-da.
And I hear it, I understand it.
And that was a funny thing onPeriscope, again, the first time
I was on, because there was somany more people over there.
They'd see me and be like, oh,here's another money-hungry
preacher and I'm like you neverasked for money Right Back then.
(19:02):
I definitely did never, neverasked for money.
I don't know, I don't get paidto do this.
No, I don't get a paycheck.
No, it's going to go into myhead either.
I just do it because I want todo it.
But, yeah, I definitelyunderstand that.
I what are you talking about?
I got to get what?
Carmen Lezeth (19:20):
Well, and it's also when they tie the amount of
money you get to the miraclesand the blessings.
I'm like that's your first cluethat that is a bad place to be
churching, as I call it.
You know what I mean.
Like if someone because yourrelationship with God is your
relationship with God and itdoesn't matter how much money
you give to whoever ispretending Cause at that point
(19:43):
you're pretending, I'm sorry,you know what I mean.
Like if you're doing a quid proquo.
Like if you give me 10% of yoursalary and then I will give you
a blessing.
That's a red flag right there.
Rick Costa (19:55):
Yeah, and I've heard horror stories too.
Like the person that's prettywell known, we'll say the name
but some guy, some, uh, somebrother, guy's brother went to
his service and he said to the,to the preacher he's like hey,
my mom's got cancer, it's notlooking good.
And he said, oh, buy this 50bottle of oil, pour it all over
(20:17):
her and she will be healed.
She, she died a month later.
Carmen Lezeth (20:20):
Of course she did so.
That's disgusting.
I'm not trying to be funny, butcome on now.
Rick Costa (20:26):
Stuff like that.
That just is disgusting and itmakes all of us look bad, like
what are you doing?
Carmen Lezeth (20:31):
Stop it you do know that there are more
churches like that than not,right, I mean, that's the
problem.
Rick Costa (20:37):
I don't know every church, so I don't know.
Carmen Lezeth (20:39):
Well, okay, I'm sorry, let me talk about
Catholic churches.
Like, every time I go into aCatholic church, like even here,
which is this big church rightdown the street here very
well-known, very famous tourguides go by, whatever, and you
know, even when you walk inthere, the opulence.
I mean it's beautiful, right,because these are the old
churches, the old cathedrals,whatever, and all that has to be
, you know, upcapped or whatever, and if you go to church that
(21:04):
that tithing thing comes aroundthree times.
Okay, here's the thing aboutCatholic church.
In case black people belistening, who are not Catholic,
catholic church is maybe 40minutes.
You're not there all day.
It is our father, we sing asong, it's the same.
You know, sermon, whatever.
(21:24):
I mean, I haven't been tochurch in a long time and every
time I step in it's like I wasjust there yesterday.
Rick Costa (21:29):
Exactly, because it's the same exact thing every
time.
Carmen Lezeth (21:32):
So in 40 minutes, when that basket comes around
three or four times that's a lotof pressure.
You know what I mean and I'mnot saying you shouldn't invest
in things that you believe in,but it's like non-profits to me.
If you want to invest money toa non-profit you need to
research it, find out how muchmoney is going to the
(21:53):
administrative costs which arevalid.
You can't have a non-profitwithout the administrative staff
working to do the stuff.
But you want to make sure thatratio isn't, you know, 80%
administrative and then 20% tothe actual thing you're
supporting.
And I don't think churches havethat.
But you can do research on somechurches before you give money
(22:15):
to them.
Rick Costa (22:16):
Yeah, and listen, if I didn't give it to you the
first time, what makes you thinktwo and three, and four, five
more times?
If I'm broke, I'm still goingto be broke, no matter how much
time you pass this thing around.
Ok, like, what is the point ofthat?
Carmen Lezeth (22:30):
You know what that was so good, rick.
Rick, thank you so much.
I appreciate you.
I hope you know how much youmean to me and to the show.
I am so excited for whateverhappens next and where we're
going from here, and Iappreciate our conversations
that we tend to really have inthe green room.
(22:51):
I wish you would be so vocalwhen we're on camera.
I don't know what happens.
Maybe it's because I talk toomuch.
I have no idea but we have somegreat conversations offline, as
well as all your contributionsand the way in which you help me
do this.
I know for a fact that,although I think I would still
(23:13):
be trying to do my podcast andmy live stream, I really could
not do it without your supportand the way in which you were
always there for me when I askedyou to do something, when I
asked you to try to help me outwith something, and so I just
wanted to say thank you and Iappreciate you.
Oh, no, you did tell me aboutthat.
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
(23:33):
This is the friend that youwere in the car with and you say
we're just friends and food.
Rick Costa (23:38):
She was like opening the food for you that's just
the reason.
Carmen Lezeth (23:45):
That's not a big deal.
I'm like, oh my god, you're sostupid yeah I remember that I
was like he don't get it becauseI would not be like rick here.
Let me open the water I wasjust like, like she's so
considerate.
No, that doesn't work.
Rick Costa (24:04):
Yeah.
I was done.
Carmen Lezeth (24:06):
Yeah, no, sorry.
Thank you so much again.
We appreciate all your support.
We love that everyone keepscoming by and hanging out with
us.
And yeah, just remember, at theend of the day it really is all
about the joy.
Bye everyone.
Thanks for stopping by.
(24:26):
All About the Joy Be better andstay beautiful folks, have a
sweet day.
Hey everyone, welcome to All About the Joy,
the private lounge.
This week we're doing somethinga little tiny bit different.
I have compiled a few differentvideos from back in the day
basically from 2022 and 2023,and they are all about Rick
Costa.
Actually, he has no idea I'mdoing this and I have to say
(00:26):
that my acting skills are chef'skiss perfect.
He was asking me this weekend,after we did a recording, if I
wanted to get together at adifferent time so that we could
record something, because heknew on Thursday I was not able
to do our regular recording.
And he's just.
Rick Costa is the nicest guyright.
(00:46):
Anybody who knows him knowsthat he's a really cool, nice,
kind of even keeled kind ofperson, and I just wanted to
take a moment to say thank youto him Because since we started
this since I reached out to himand asked if he wanted to be on
the show and then subsequentlyasked him if he wanted to be on
the show and then subsequentlyasked him if he wanted to
co-host he's always beensupportive, kind and as helpful
(01:09):
as possible and he's never beenmean or cruel or well.
Sometimes he's mean no, he'snot.
But my point is is I've nevertaken a moment to really just
say thank you, and I wanted todo it in this way, and so I've
gathered together some clipsthat I think are kind of fun and
telling about who he is, and Ihope he understands what he
(01:33):
means to me.
So enjoy.
Rick Costa (01:35):
So she was a pink poodle.
I don't remember that.
Did I tell you about that?
Carmen Lezeth (01:39):
What's a pink poodle?
Rick Costa (01:42):
So on Periscope there were women that everybody
in the world could see.
But stupid, ignorant, dumb,naive me that clearly they
wanted some Rick and I'm likehuh.
And so they were like we needto come up with something to let
Rick know this chick is tryingto get with you.
(02:02):
So they came up with we're'regonna type in pink poodle,
that's your clue.
Carmen Lezeth (02:08):
And I'm like, oh, shoot, okay that is so random
pink poodle but that's so good.
It's kind of like.
I mean, there's a little bitdifferent.
But when I was growing up Iused to always like when I would
talk to people on the phone,like if I was in danger, I would
just say tomatoes, and it's inthe front cover of my book and
unless you know, you don't know.
(02:28):
But I used to say like I'd betalking on the phone and I would
just start talking abouttomatoes.
This is like a code word.
I think one of the coolestthings about Rick is that you
can never get him to sayanything bad about anyone.
You know what I mean.
But sometimes there are thesemoments and this next clip will
show you where you can even gethim to swear a little bit.
(02:51):
Enjoy.
Okay, let me just tell you whatthe what, the podcast.
So the podcast and what I wrotewere about pet peeves like
people not using blinkersers,which is what we call them in
boston, but directionals youknow when, when you're driving.
But I kind of listed out like10 of them.
(03:12):
Um, people using their cellphones on speaker while you're
in the vicinity of a publicspace.
Um, people having sex in myapartment building, which is
fine, knock yourselves out, butlike just screaming, like
there's a I hate to say it, butthere's somebody who lives above
me and I want to go and knockon the door and be like,
(03:38):
seriously, if you can't tellthat she's lying, that she's
faking it, I'm here to tell youthat she is, but it's so loud,
I'm sorry.
Is that embarrassing you, rick?
Rick Costa (03:51):
Well, when I was a kid, we used to have tenants
upstairs.
This is a three-family house Ilive in.
Carmen Lezeth (03:55):
Yeah.
Rick Costa (03:56):
Yeah, on one of the apartments this woman was loud
and I'm like, what's happening?
I'm a kid, I don't know what.
I don't understand.
Like, what is all this noise?
What is happening?
Are they wrestling what's going?
Carmen Lezeth (04:10):
on you know what, but it's so like it's the
fakery of it that cracks me upand I can't stop laughing.
Anyway, I was just talkingabout kind of pet peeves on that
end and people actually likedthat episode.
Rick Costa (04:24):
But okay, what are?
Some of your pet peeves well,it's saying a lot of pretty much
the same ones, especiallydriving ones.
Um, like either use the turnsignal or we call turn signals
here or don't.
Don't do it after.
I already see your car'salready turning, I already know
you're turning, idiot.
What are you putting it on now?
For what?
The heck that pisses me off.
(04:48):
I'm sorry, that makes me reallymad.
That's hilarious.
Use youtube to watch otherpeople's videos yeah, definitely
definitely, but um stop signs.
I am a big proponent of stoppingat stop signs, but almost most
of my friends don't really care.
Carmen Lezeth (05:03):
People do a rolling stop here which is
basically not stopping right.
It's like you roll on, yeah.
Yeah, I think one of my bigpeeves I talk about was when
you're in the grocery store andsomebody is in front of you in
line and they're on the phoneand they're being so
disrespectful to the cashier.
I don't even understand.
(05:23):
Like.
I think I mentioned that in thepodcast.
I actually will call people outon that, because then they get
upset because they can't hearthe cashier but they're on their
bluetooth or whatever.
They're having their veryimportant phone call um, but I I
have.
I think as I get older, I'mless inclined to be okay with
people being rude to otherpeople in front of me.
(05:46):
I can't stand it.
Yeah, I can't stand it at all.
Rick Costa (05:49):
No, I've talked to people while I'm grocery
shopping, but then I'll be likeI'm getting in line, I gotta go
right there I'm getting in likebecause I'm gonna sit there and
talk to you and or something.
Carmen Lezeth (06:00):
No, that's just stupid right and so you know,
someone told me carmen, I don'tthink people realize I'm like
you know, that's just stupid,right.
And so you know, someone toldme Carmen, I don't think people
realize I'm like you know what.
That's the other thing.
If you check yourself, how arepeople not realizing like that's
not an excuse either?
You're a grown person.
You are not, you know, aseven-year-old kid that you
don't know.
When you're being rude, I mean,I just stop it, right, just
(06:24):
stop it.
Yeah, I'm going to be likegetting people mad at me because
I'm really adamant about thegrocery store thing, but yeah,
okay, another one.
What's another one?
Rick Costa (06:35):
This is like a personal one to be honest with
you.
So people that know me somewhatknow that I've literally been
broadcasting every single dayfor over six and a half years.
Never missed one day.
Maybe I'm crazy, but that's notthe point and then they'll be
like oh, I never get to see you.
(06:57):
I'm out every freaking day.
What do you mean?
You don't get to see me?
Carmen Lezeth (07:05):
That makes me so mad because they're just trying
to be nice and I don't know.
Yeah, all right, they're lying.
Yeah, that makes me crazy.
That is a pet peeve, but it'sbecause they're trying to say
they're interested.
They just haven't been able tocatch you.
Yeah, why do you do it everyday?
I'm crazy I don't think you'recrazy, but there must be a
(07:27):
reason.
It must be something in youthat that you feel it's always
about.
Uh, I say this respectfully, Iknow it's going to come across
badly, but it's because you'repreaching the word or whatever
right, which I'm not really into.
But you know, you know I'm arecovering Catholic.
So I think this next clip a lotof people know how we met, but
(07:52):
this is, I think, the first timehe actually explains how we met
, and I will also say that Rickis probably one of the most
humble people I've ever met.
It annoys me to no end, like Ican't stand it sometimes, but
there's a lot of things about usthat are so really different
(08:15):
and I think that kind of reallyhelps keep me happy and fresh
and kind of just in a greatspace, because I know that there
are things that we don't agreeon at all.
So why don't you tell peoplehow we met?
Rick Costa (08:34):
So this wonderful app that no longer exists called
Apps, that was just an amazingpositive experience.
I'm being so sarcastic rightnow.
Yeah, we just came across eachother on there, but I think the
one video I saw was when youwere with three other women and
(08:54):
you guys were talking about menand I was like, oh, this is
amazing.
This conversation is awesome.
I'm learning stuff right now.
And I was like that's when Iwas like, oh, I like these
people oh, that's so funny.
Carmen Lezeth (09:06):
I don't remember who that was, but that, that's.
That probably sounds like me,whatever.
Um, oh, that's hilarious.
Yeah, and I, when I first raninto or started getting to know
people on haps and anyone wholistens to me or is on our show
knows that I hate that app withevery fiber of my being, and I
say it every time, just to beclear part of it is because it
(09:28):
was just a very toxic place.
But there were pearls, therewere people, and you're one of
those people, rick, that Ithought um were pretty cool,
even though you and I do notbelieve in the same things, and
that's what I want to talk about.
So, rick costacom.
So when I first met rick, Ithought he was a pastor, because
(09:48):
everyone called you pastor,rick.
Rick Costa (09:51):
Well, I so how did that come about?
So it was on Periscope.
Carmen Lezeth (09:57):
Another app, wait , wait, yes, yes, periscope was
another app, right yeah.
Rick Costa (10:01):
Periscope was pretty big back in the day.
Actually, I think the secondyear it was out it became like
the number one app and that'swhen it really kind of pulled
and everybody was like on thatthing.
But funny enough, people havecalled me that like slipping,
sort of Like oh, pastor, I meanRick, like they've done that
(10:23):
like forever.
Even my own pastor has donethat in front of the church and
I'm like, hmm, what's that about?
Carmen Lezeth (10:28):
Yeah, but why you should tell people why.
Rick Costa (10:30):
Well, because I am super hardcore into the bible
and jesus and okay being alittle humble, let me.
Carmen Lezeth (10:38):
Let me intervene.
It's not just that you're superhardcore into the bible, but
that is part of it.
But you also have a dailyservice show that you do.
On, let me see if I got thisright Sunday through Friday at 3
pm Pacific.
(11:00):
Pacific and 6 pm Eastern, andit's about half an hour 45
minutes and you do a Biblereading.
You do a song that you all singtogether.
You have regular people thatcome on the show.
You read the Bible and then youhave like some games that you
do.
That I try to once in a whilecome and visit and I always kind
(11:21):
of into being when the gamesare going on because I think
they're fun and you do a lot ofpraying for other people and
stuff like that.
So you've been doing this foreight years now.
Every day is godly.
You have not missed a day,which you're very proud about
that.
And I'm all like we're doingthis podcast because we're
taking off Thanksgiving.
I have no interest whatsoeverin doing that, but
(11:45):
congratulations to you.
But the reason why I bring thatup is because I think that's
why people were calling you alsoPastor Rick is because you are
providing a religious service orsermon or I don't want to speak
for you, but why don't you tellpeople what you call it?
Rick Costa (12:00):
I mean that's what people just naturally started
doing.
And then it got to the pointwhere it happened so much, where
I was like, okay, I guess thisis happening, so I'm just going
to let it happen.
And I even changed my name onPeriscope to Pastor Ray Costa.
I was like we're just going togo with it, that's what it is.
And I mean I'm serving thepurpose of one.
(12:23):
You know I do.
What do I do?
That's different?
Not really much.
You know I.
There's like a little sermon,you know I.
I didn't.
I fought that for the longest Iwas like no, no, don't put that
(12:45):
on me, don't put that on me.
But then I was like all right,all right what?
Carmen Lezeth (12:50):
what's the big deal?
I mean, if I mean I, I mean Idon't know what the okay, so
let's just talk about we don'thave to go down why you are or
are not called Pastor Rick, andI understand you have a lot of
humility issues and being so.
I say that respectfully.
I think what's reallyinteresting sometimes is when
you make a decision to want todo something, especially
(13:12):
creatively, you have to havesomebody who is going to support
your idea right, somebody who'sgoing to be like in your corner
no matter what.
And I have to say it's one ofthe things I really appreciate
about Rick and he supports allabout the joy because he
believes in the mission and whatit is I'm trying to do, and so
(13:35):
I love that about him.
But what's really interestingis sometimes people aren't as
supportive as he is towards themand, uh, this clip kind of
shows that pet peeves.
Well, not even about pet peeves.
Rick Costa (13:49):
you can talk about other stuff, but whatever you
want, yeah, I'm just, I'm justthinking still like um acting
like I don't support you when Ido, but you don't never support
me like oh no, are you talkingabout me?
Carmen Lezeth (14:07):
I don't know.
Rick Costa (14:08):
No, no, not you personally, no, you do.
Carmen Lezeth (14:11):
But I do, but I don't no, you do, can't be no.
No, I support you as a friendbut I don't always support your
because I want everyone to knowit's not that I don't believe in
god.
I do, but I don't do the biblestuffage.
So I get a little turned offsometimes when you go down that.
(14:31):
But I feel bad because I try togo on TikTok and like stuff and
then you say something I'm likeno, I don't believe Jesus said
that.
I mean, I don't say that, butI'm like no, I don't believe
that, I don't believe it.
Yeah, but I don't want to dothat because I don't want to be
negative on your space, so thatI sometimes support you by not
writing anything yeah, no, I'lltotally get it, totally get it.
Rick Costa (14:54):
But but there'll be people that say like, oh gosh, I
never, I never hardly, I neverhardly see you on my videos and
I'm like, if we're gonna make acomparison, you never visit my
videos, and I do visit you everyonce in a while, like I don't
know, it's just annoying ittakes a lot of work too to go
and visit other people's.
Carmen Lezeth (15:14):
Like people got upset with me on Tik TOK because
I don't follow everybody,Everybody who follows me, I
don't follow them back.
I'm like I, I go on Tik TOK, Ido a thing and I will follow
people because I actually wantto watch your stuff, not just to
follow them.
Like, if I have 5,000 followers, I'm not going to follow 5,000
people because I'm not going towatch all 5,000 people.
Rick Costa (15:38):
No, it's interesting though I kind of have been
doing the follow for follow thiswhole time and I'm like, oh,
and I regret this probably oneday, but everything that comes
up for me, like you know youscroll, it's relevant stuff,
stuff that I actually aminterested in.
So, right algorithm, they gotgoing on behind the scenes.
Carmen Lezeth (15:58):
But that thing works well.
I think it's the things thatyou like.
So it's not about who youfollow, it's the things that you
like.
So the more you like certainthings, then you'll get more of
those uh videos.
But that's my problem withfollowing everybody who follows
me.
I don't like somebody'sfollowing me who's like a punk
rocker and I'm like I don't.
(16:18):
I think you sound horrible.
I don't like your genre ofmusic, but thank you for
following me, but I'm not goingto follow that person back.
Rick Costa (16:28):
Yeah, Well, I used to be like more like that on
Periscope and they'd be like, oh, follow me, follow.
Well, I used to be more likethat on Periscope and they'd be
like, oh, follow me, follow me,follow me.
And then I'd look at theirprofile and they have no videos
and I'm like follow you for whatyou don't broadcast.
Yeah, that's the other part,Right For what.
Carmen Lezeth (16:41):
There's no doubt that Rick and I don't agree on a
lot of things, but there aresome fundamental things that we
absolutely agree on, even whenit comes to religion, and I
think that's what you want tofind in someone when you're
trying to create or buildsomething, is you want to make
sure that the person that you'reworking with not only believes
(17:01):
in your mission but also hasyour back.
You know what I mean Is somebodywho is going to be there for
you, and I think that's hard ifyou don't have some fundamental
belief systems that are exactlythe same.
And even though Rick and I don'tbelieve in a lot of things,
when it comes to like you knowthe same, like politics or
religion or you know things likethat the truth is, at the end
(17:28):
of the day, we're both goodpeople, we're both compassionate
people, we both have a lot ofempathy for people, and I think
that's what's important.
It's not that you have to agreeon everything on the planet.
I think that would beimpossible and a little weird,
by the way, but I do think it'simportant that, fundamentally,
(17:49):
you believe in the same thingsthat are good and you believe in
the same things that are bad,and believe in the same things
that are bad and that at the endof the day, if you do argue
with each other or you do whichI don't know if we've ever had
any arguments, I couldn't findany clips of those but at the
end of the day, that even if youhave a disagreement, you can
have those disagreements, youcan apologize to each other and
(18:11):
then you can move forward, and Ithink Rick and I are really
good at that, especially witheach other.
But I feel like some of thesechurches.
I'm shook by the tithing andI'm okay.
I'm okay investing in somethingyou believe in, but if he's
driving a Rolls Royce, I'm justsaying I don't think that's what
(18:34):
Jesus would have thought whenyour flocking got food.
Rick Costa (18:37):
Yeah, that's definitely one of the big ones
too is they're like oh, theyjust want money, they just want
money and I want money,da-da-da-da.
And I hear it, I understand it.
And that was a funny thing onPeriscope, again, the first time
I was on, because there was somany more people over there.
They'd see me and be like, oh,here's another money-hungry
preacher and I'm like you neverasked for money Right Back then.
(19:02):
I definitely did never, neverasked for money.
I don't know, I don't get paidto do this.
No, I don't get a paycheck.
No, it's going to go into myhead either.
I just do it because I want todo it.
But, yeah, I definitelyunderstand that.
I what are you talking about?
I got to get what?
Carmen Lezeth (19:20):
Well, and it's also when they tie the amount of
money you get to the miraclesand the blessings.
I'm like that's your first cluethat that is a bad place to be
churching, as I call it.
You know what I mean.
Like if someone because yourrelationship with God is your
relationship with God and itdoesn't matter how much money
you give to whoever ispretending Cause at that point
(19:43):
you're pretending, I'm sorry,you know what I mean.
Like if you're doing a quid proquo.
Like if you give me 10% of yoursalary and then I will give you
a blessing.
That's a red flag right there.
Rick Costa (19:55):
Yeah, and I've heard horror stories too.
Like the person that's prettywell known, we'll say the name
but some guy, some, uh, somebrother, guy's brother went to
his service and he said to the,to the preacher he's like hey,
my mom's got cancer, it's notlooking good.
And he said, oh, buy this 50bottle of oil, pour it all over
(20:17):
her and she will be healed.
She, she died a month later.
Carmen Lezeth (20:20):
Of course she did so.
That's disgusting.
I'm not trying to be funny, butcome on now.
Rick Costa (20:26):
Stuff like that.
That just is disgusting and itmakes all of us look bad, like
what are you doing?
Carmen Lezeth (20:31):
Stop it you do know that there are more
churches like that than not,right, I mean, that's the
problem.
Rick Costa (20:37):
I don't know every church, so I don't know.
Carmen Lezeth (20:39):
Well, okay, I'm sorry, let me talk about
Catholic churches.
Like, every time I go into aCatholic church, like even here,
which is this big church rightdown the street here very
well-known, very famous tourguides go by, whatever, and you
know, even when you walk inthere, the opulence.
I mean it's beautiful, right,because these are the old
churches, the old cathedrals,whatever, and all that has to be
, you know, upcapped or whatever, and if you go to church that
(21:04):
that tithing thing comes aroundthree times.
Okay, here's the thing aboutCatholic church.
In case black people belistening, who are not Catholic,
catholic church is maybe 40minutes.
You're not there all day.
It is our father, we sing asong, it's the same.
You know, sermon, whatever.
(21:24):
I mean, I haven't been tochurch in a long time and every
time I step in it's like I wasjust there yesterday.
Rick Costa (21:29):
Exactly, because it's the same exact thing every
time.
Carmen Lezeth (21:32):
So in 40 minutes, when that basket comes around
three or four times that's a lotof pressure.
You know what I mean and I'mnot saying you shouldn't invest
in things that you believe in,but it's like non-profits to me.
If you want to invest money toa non-profit you need to
research it, find out how muchmoney is going to the
(21:53):
administrative costs which arevalid.
You can't have a non-profitwithout the administrative staff
working to do the stuff.
But you want to make sure thatratio isn't, you know, 80%
administrative and then 20% tothe actual thing you're
supporting.
And I don't think churches havethat.
But you can do research on somechurches before you give money
(22:15):
to them.
Rick Costa (22:16):
Yeah, and listen, if I didn't give it to you the
first time, what makes you thinktwo and three, and four, five
more times?
If I'm broke, I'm still goingto be broke, no matter how much
time you pass this thing around.
Ok, like, what is the point ofthat?
Carmen Lezeth (22:30):
You know what that was so good, rick.
Rick, thank you so much.
I appreciate you.
I hope you know how much youmean to me and to the show.
I am so excited for whateverhappens next and where we're
going from here, and Iappreciate our conversations
that we tend to really have inthe green room.
(22:51):
I wish you would be so vocalwhen we're on camera.
I don't know what happens.
Maybe it's because I talk toomuch.
I have no idea but we have somegreat conversations offline, as
well as all your contributionsand the way in which you help me
do this.
I know for a fact that,although I think I would still
(23:13):
be trying to do my podcast andmy live stream, I really could
not do it without your supportand the way in which you were
always there for me when I askedyou to do something, when I
asked you to try to help me outwith something, and so I just
wanted to say thank you and Iappreciate you.
Oh, no, you did tell me aboutthat.
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
(23:33):
This is the friend that youwere in the car with and you say
we're just friends and food.
Rick Costa (23:38):
She was like opening the food for you that's just
the reason.
Carmen Lezeth (23:45):
That's not a big deal.
I'm like, oh my god, you're sostupid yeah I remember that I
was like he don't get it becauseI would not be like rick here.
Let me open the water I wasjust like, like she's so
considerate.
No, that doesn't work.
Rick Costa (24:04):
Yeah.
I was done.
Carmen Lezeth (24:06):
Yeah, no, sorry.
Thank you so much again.
We appreciate all your support.
We love that everyone keepscoming by and hanging out with
us.
And yeah, just remember, at theend of the day it really is all
about the joy.
Bye everyone.
Thanks for stopping by.
(24:26):
All About the Joy Be better andstay beautiful folks, have a
sweet day.
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