Regrets, Friendships, Val Kilmer and the Art of Cutting Toxic People Out of Your Life

Starting with a reflection on Val Kilmer's philosophy—"I have no regrets because I have lost and found parts of myself that I never knew existed"—we dive deep into what it really means to live without regret while acknowledging our past choices. The conversation quickly evolves into a therapeutic exploration of cutting toxic people out of our lives and the liberation that comes with it.

We get refreshingly honest about "performative friendships" and why they're not worth maintaining. Maurio and Alma share their united approach to handling difficult relationships, while Carmen opens up about her growing ability to establish boundaries as she gets older. Rick contributes his perspective on patience and its limits, and Cynthia offers insights about discerning which relationships deserve our energy.

The discussion takes a fascinating turn when we explore the delicate subject of money between friends—from uncomfortable borrowing situations to the friends who show up not with cash but with groceries and childcare during life's toughest moments. We share vulnerable stories about times we've needed support and the people who came through without being asked.

This episode isn't just conversation; it's permission to prioritize your peace and surround yourself with people who genuinely enhance your life.

What toxic relationship might you need to reevaluate? Who are the "root" friends in your life that deserve more of your attention? Join us for this soul-nourishing dialogue about creating space for authentic joy.

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Host, Carmen Lezeth


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Episode Transcript

Carmen Lezeth (00:05):
hey everyone, welcome to all about the joy how
you guys doing hi rick, cynthia, mario alma, what's up?

Maurio Dawson (00:13):
buenos noches, buenos dias, buenos tardes,
depending on where you are oh,are we wearing prints?
We are official paisley parkmerch.
Yes, it is.

Carmen Lezeth (00:26):
I wanted to talk a little bit about Val Kilmer.
I don't know if you guys arefans, but you know he passed
away yeah.

Rick Costa (00:36):
Batman Forever.
I just watched that moviebecause of him, like today.

Carmen Lezeth (00:40):
You've never seen it before.

Rick Costa (00:42):
I have, but it's been so long yeah.

Carmen Lezeth (00:46):
You know what?
I never fight with people aboutwho the best batman is.
Like I'm not gonna go down thathole, but he had the hottest
lips as batman and I've enjoyedwatching him as a homicide okay,
like if that matters.
I've never been a fan of of dcbut I do like the batmans, but I
do think he was um, that wasnot the best batman.

(01:06):
We'll just say that that nor ornor clunies was trash garbage I
think clunies was worse than valkilmer hot garbage, yeah, hot
garbage.
But I wanted to start a littlebit with just talking about,
like one of the quotes that valKilmer is known for saying about

(01:26):
regrets, because I was having alot of regret feelings this
week about a lot of differentthings and I thought we would
talk a little bit about it.
But he said I have no regretsbecause I have lost and found
parts of myself that I neverknew existed and I thought that
was an interesting thing.
I never knew existed and Ithought that was an interesting
thing.
I used to pride myself onsaying I have no regrets because

(01:47):
I think if you do the best youcan with the information you
have in front of you, that's allyou can do.
That's the best you can do.
But I've been regretting a lotof things lately, so I just
wanted to know what you guysthought about regrets or about
Val Kilmer, or about any of hismovies or Go ahead, Mario.

Maurio Dawson (02:07):
Well, no, I mean, you know, I actually, I mean I
actually watched his documentarywhen it came out, remember, and
it was very interesting to gethis perspective and to hear his
voice, you know, as he was, youknow, on the decline, and so I

(02:29):
got to learn more about him asthe man versus the actor, and I
think it was very insightfulthat, you know, and it was, it
was a very kind gesture of hisson to you know, use his voice
for his dad.
Yeah, to use his voice for hisdad, yeah, and it gave me a more
rounded view of who he was as aman, not the actor, and I think

(02:55):
he was a good man and he was apretty good actor.
He's got some great stuff.

Carmen Lezeth (03:01):
Juilliard-trained actor.
He was really way up there as agreat actor that don't mean
nothing, well it does when it'snot an ordinary actor.
It's still shocking becausehe's young, you know, um, and he
had so much.
Yeah, he was 65, um, but he hadso much.
People know him as iceman fromtop gun is what people know him

(03:23):
from, but I remember I think hewas like one of my first crushes
too.
The movie was Real Genius whichis a really it reminds me it's
not at all the same as, but it'sin that same time period of,
like War Games, that kind ofwhole you know area time period.
He was a great actor, but Ithink one of the things that I

(03:46):
regret um, just to get back tothat, because that's kind of
what I want to talk about todayis I I had opportunities that I
didn't take because I was afraidI didn't jump with both feet.
And yet there are other thingsthat I've done and everyone
thinks I'm like God, that's soscary, like moving to California
and not knowing anybody.

(04:06):
Do you guys ever have anythings that you wish you had
done?
And when you look back on ityou're like, damn it, I should
have just done that, I shouldhave just jumped in.

Maurio Dawson (04:22):
I wish I didn't get on the pole so much back in
the day.
But no, I wish I didn't get onthe poll, so much back in the
day.

Alma Dawson (04:28):
No, I'm so joking, you went right up my nose.
Thank you, mario.

Carmen Lezeth (04:39):
I'm so joking.
This is a G-rated show.
Well, they didn't see the show?

Alma Dawson (04:47):
Is that how you met Alma?
Honestly, now, at this age, Idon't have any regrets, because
all the decisions that I made,all of the things that happened
to me, you know, brought me tothe places where I am and, you

(05:09):
know, taught me lessons, taughtme valuable lessons.
Now, if you would have talkedto me when I was, you know, 25,
then I would have been like, oh,I regret so much and I wish I
would have done this.
I wish I would have done this,and you know, but I think with
age comes definitely wisdom, um,you know, but I feel like I'm

(05:30):
still constantly learning and ifthere's things that I feel like
I haven't gotten to do, I stillhave an opportunity to do them.
Don't waste time.
You can't buy time back.
That's the one thing you can'tget back.
So don't waste your time onthings that you know steal your
energy, steal your joy.
You know.
Just be Like what?
Like what?
Toxic people.

Maurio Dawson (05:50):
Boom.

Carmen Lezeth (05:52):
And that is the end of our show.

Alma Dawson (05:56):
Whether it's family , whether it's friends that
you've had for many, many years,whether you know, whatever it
may be, just don't waste yourtime.

Carmen Lezeth (06:08):
You know what I think that's one of the things I
regret, though, I think, isthat and I'm really good at
cutting people out Like amazing,and today, when I was talking
to Alden, we were having thisconversation about regret we
were talking about Val Kilmer Iwas telling him like I don't
talk to people anymore that geton my every nerve.
If you can't make my lifeeasier, I'm done.

(06:28):
And there are people who arethey're not upset with me,
they're confused.
They're like why didn't youcall me?
Why didn't you do this?
I'm like I just it has to beeasy.
If it's not easy, I'm not doingit.

Maurio Dawson (06:39):
Actually, I just did a post, a story, yesterday,
and I basically told people inthe story don't feel bad about
cutting off connections, badconnections when you were the
only one doing all the work,hello.
And so you know, I don't feelbad about cutting those bad

(07:00):
connections off, because if Iwas the only one doing all the
work then we didn't have a realconnection anyway.
So you know what Chalking upthe deuces.
God bless you, have a good life.
I wish you well from afar.
Bye-bye.

Carmen Lezeth (07:15):
See you, but Cynthia, what about you, rick,
what about you?

Cynthia Ruiz Lopez (07:20):
I used to regret not going to college
earlier and not taking advantagethat my stepfather worked at BU
and I could have gone for freeif I would have gotten in.
I know, I know I didn't knowthat, but I think it was better
that I waited, because at leastnow I didn't waste the time not

(07:42):
knowing what I wanted to study,and that would have been money
just wasted.
Even though I still owe studentloans.
But at least now I know what Iwant to do and I'm working
towards that.

Carmen Lezeth (07:54):
Is there a reason why you didn't do it back then?

Cynthia Ruiz Lopez (07:56):
That you know of.
I really didn't know what Iwanted to do, so why waste the
time and money?

Maurio Dawson (08:06):
Well, okay, this is one Alma and I have talked
about private, but we'll shareit.
Well, I'll share it.

Carmen Lezeth (08:14):
I was just going to say did you ask?
Uh-oh, I'll share it.
This is where it gets spicy.

Maurio Dawson (08:20):
Go ahead.

Alma Dawson (08:21):
I don't know what he's going to say.

Maurio Dawson (08:25):
No, we've had a very challenging conversation
about having additional childrenand so we didn't.
We had.
We should have had our secondchild right after we had Marissa
, but I chose to wait and I waslike I think it's too soon and I

(08:46):
, you know, I didn't want torush, I wanted some space.
And now, looking back, I kindof regret that.
But then, in other terms, Idon't regret it because I got
sick, and I got really reallysick, really really bad, and we
had two kids, for, you know,alma actually becoming a single

(09:09):
parent at one point, because Iwas so sick, I was on dialysis,
I was in the hospital months ata time.
That would have been a lot onher.
So I regret not having a child,but God understood why I wasn't
supposed to have an extra childhaving a child.
But God understood why I wasn'tsupposed to have an extra child
because had Alma had that extrabody all over her all the time,

(09:32):
it would have been even worsefor her and even for me.
Because you know I have regrets, but then I don't.
But that was one big regret.
If it makes sense, you knowwhat?
I'm not doing this with youtonight.
I'm not doing this with you.
Don't sit up there and give methis blank face.

Rick Costa (09:56):
I've seen people get in a whole lot being sad in the
face, I know, I think they canfeel it through the podcast.

Alma Dawson (10:02):
I understand.
I understand your feelings onthe situation, but you know that
those were not my feelings.

Maurio Dawson (10:10):
No, and we've had that conversation.
Yeah, I mean.
So you know.
Welcome to the newlywed game.

Carmen Lezeth (10:18):
Because, my understanding, Alma, if you
could I mean, we don't want toget all up in your business, but
you would have handled it- shefelt like she would have handled
it.

Alma Dawson (10:28):
Whether you have one or you have five, you figure
it out.

Cynthia Ruiz Lopez (10:32):
So, let me ask would you adopt?

Alma Dawson (10:36):
now.
Yeah, but we have had thisconversation as well.
We definitely do want to adoptyes as well.
We definitely do want to adopt,it has to be our grown, almost
grown, because she's not grownup yet.
Half-grown child, adult,semi-adult child needs to be in

(10:59):
her own home.

Maurio Dawson (11:00):
Yeah, in her own space.

Alma Dawson (11:02):
In her own space so that we can bring another child
into our home.
Yeah, in her own space.
In her own space so that we canbring another child into our
home.

Maurio Dawson (11:08):
I think Mursa would be a great big sister, but
it just when you have an onlychild over a certain age, it's
just like you're raising twoonly children and you would
think that your only child, youronly adult child, would not
demand the same attention.

Carmen Lezeth (11:25):
I think that your only child, your only adult
child would not demand the sameattention.
I think that's normal.
Yeah, still hard, but it wouldbe.

Alma Dawson (11:32):
It's normal, yeah, so no, yeah, we're, we've
definitely had that conversation, so that's definitely in the in
the future.
And now it's just aboutagreeing about the age range.
So yeah, I'm not changing ondiapers, so the age range.

Maurio Dawson (11:41):
Yeah, I'm not changing my diapers.

Alma Dawson (11:44):
So you know, and that's fine, I've agreed to that
.

Rick Costa (11:48):
What's with the attitude?

Carmen Lezeth (11:50):
What's with the attitude?
I'm attitudinal Rick.
What about you?

Rick Costa (12:00):
And regret.
I'm currently still watchingmore of this Is Us.
I'm in the middle of the secondseason and you regret you didn't
watch it back in the day, so Ican't regret it now, but, um,
yeah, randall wanted to adoptand then they adopted a girl and
he was like she was like atroubled child.
So it's really interesting thewhole thing.

(12:22):
And then, mom, anyway, usuallywhen you said adoption, I was
like, oh yeah, I just watchedthat.
But, um, mine is I think Ibrought it before it's work
related where I took a promotionthat I didn't know in hindsight
but it was the stupidest thingI could have did, because I got
fired three months later becauseI was the newest person in that

(12:44):
department.
Yeah, they laid off all thenewer people in whatever
department they were.
Had I not done that and I didn'teven want to, they literally
pressured me to do it.
They're like we think youshould do it, we think you can
do it.
I was like I'm perfectly happywhere I am.
Had I not done that, itprobably would have been changed
my life a lot, because afterthat I got divorced not too long

(13:06):
after that.
But the one good thing that didhappen again God knows what
he's doing I guess my cousin theone that died when she was 34,
that was very, very close tothat's when her cancer got
really, really bad and sheneeded extra help.
So it all worked out.
It was still purpose-filled.
Yeah, my scripture thoughtyesterday was God, he works all

(13:29):
things for the good.

Alma Dawson (13:30):
Yes, yes, yeah.

Carmen Lezeth (13:34):
I'm sorry.

Maurio Dawson (13:37):
You laughing?
You know You're okay with that,aren't you?
You already know where herbrain went.

Carmen Lezeth (13:44):
Because I was just talking to Alden, who's an
atheist, and we were having awhole conversation about how God
works Really.

Rick Costa (13:53):
With atheists.

Carmen Lezeth (13:54):
Yeah, he's like a Ricky Gervais atheist of
everyone else's faith, butreally smart when it comes to
how having the conversationabout the belief in God or not.
You know what I mean.
That's why I started laughing,because I just had that.

(14:15):
That's why I was running solate, because I was on the phone
with Alden talking about toomany things.
But yeah, Is there a movie thatyou guys ever regretted
watching?
Did you ever walk out of amovie?

Cynthia Ruiz Lopez (14:32):
I'm scared right now.
Oh, I want to know, Mario.

Maurio Dawson (14:36):
La La Land.
That was the worst movie of mylife.
I was so annoyed.
No, no, no, no.
I was so annoyed.
I actually walked out and Isaid can you give me my money

(14:58):
back, because I can't get thesetwo hours of my life back.

Cynthia Ruiz Lopez (15:01):
Give me my money.

Carmen Lezeth (15:03):
I loved La La Land.
I loved it.

Maurio Dawson (15:07):
Hot garbage, oh my God Wow.

Carmen Lezeth (15:11):
Okay, yep, we will agree to disagree.

Alma Dawson (15:15):
I don't know Like wow, I don't know what it was,
yeah.

Maurio Dawson (15:18):
Garbage Trash.
Oh my God Trash.

Carmen Lezeth (15:23):
Wow Okay, calmate , calm down.
Okay, that's your thing, it'sokay Of all the movies we love
musicals.

Rick Costa (15:35):
Yeah, I do we love musicals, love them.

Cynthia Ruiz Lopez (15:39):
And that was not it.

Alma Dawson (15:41):
That was not it.

Carmen Lezeth (15:44):
Yeah, I'm not going to argue with you why you
hated it.
I, I, I'm the complete opposite.
I would actually say it's in mytop 20 movies.

Maurio Dawson (15:53):
I thought it was a great movie.
Yeah, bless my heart.

Carmen Lezeth (15:56):
It's a good movie , I, I mean.
I think also it.
You know it well.
We don't have to talk about whyI love it, but it, it is one of
those pieces of art you eitherlove or you don't have to talk
about why I love it, but it, itis one of those pieces of art
you either love or you don't.
I don't know if I would ask formy money back, but I thought it
was going to be something likewell, to me, that's not the

(16:17):
worst movie.
So, cynthia, you hated La LaLand.

Cynthia Ruiz Lopez (16:20):
I did.

Maurio Dawson (16:21):
I.

Cynthia Ruiz Lopez (16:21):
I.

Maurio Dawson (16:22):
I hated it I yes, wow, I did, I hated it.

Cynthia Ruiz Lopez (16:24):
My people yes.

Carmen Lezeth (16:27):
Wow, rick, did you even see La La Land?

Maurio Dawson (16:29):
I heard of it.
You didn't miss nothing.

Cynthia Ruiz Lopez (16:31):
No, yeah, you did it was awesome, I didn't
even look at it.
Oh my God, and I still don'tunderstand how they won.

Alma Dawson (16:36):
Don't waste a Googler.

Rick Costa (16:38):
No, they won what?

Cynthia Ruiz Lopez (16:40):
Rick.

Rick Costa (16:41):
They won what they Rick?
They won, they won what theywon.

Cynthia Ruiz Lopez (16:43):
for best picture, they won an Oscar for
best picture.

Carmen Lezeth (16:47):
How I don't know.
It deserved it.
It totally deserved it.
It did I think too.
Look, we don't have to.
They voted studio yeah.

Rick Costa (17:01):
They did not deserve it.
I'm switching.
I didn't watch it.

Carmen Lezeth (17:03):
It's okay, we can just move on.

Rick Costa (17:05):
I'm switching.

Carmen Lezeth (17:05):
I didn't watch it , it's okay, don't move on.
I think people have differenttastes.

Maurio Dawson (17:12):
I've never been so annoyed at a film in my whole
life.

Alma Dawson (17:17):
I tried.
I still say it.
I'm going to give it a chance.
I'm going to say he waitedoutside in the lobby.
He was like I'll be to give ita chance, I'm going to stay.
I'm going to stay.
And he waited outside in thelobby.
He was like I'll be out herewhenever you're done.
Wow, OK, stop.

Cynthia Ruiz Lopez (17:30):
It was horrible.

Carmen Lezeth (17:32):
I think it's your opinion and that's fine, but I
mean, I understand that youdidn't like it, but it is just
not your flavor, that's OK.
That's how I feel about horrorfilms and Disney.
No, no, I don't like horrorfilms.

Maurio Dawson (17:47):
But I've had movies where I've been bored.
I've had movies where I couldyou know I could sit through it.
I went to school for this, likeI've studied film from the
1900s.

Carmen Lezeth (17:58):
Is it okay that it just wasn't your thing?
Can you just leave it at that?
Can it just be like you knowwhat?
Just let it work?
No, I'm just wasn't your thing.
Can you just leave it at that?
Can it just be like?

Alma Dawson (18:12):
you know what just didn't work?
No, I'm just like.
I'm just saying the entireacademy voted it best picture
it's possible.
It's just not your thing and Iknow they're probably won't buy.
One vote what they probablywon't buy one vote it was still
up in the running one vote, waita minute.

Rick Costa (18:25):
Tell me you hate something without saying you
hate it.
Wait, wait.

Maurio Dawson (18:27):
They weren't in Best Picture, did they?
It wasn't, didn't Moonlight?

Carmen Lezeth (18:31):
be banned that year?
No-transcript.
No, they did.
They won.
It received widespread acclaimand won numerous awards,
including six Oscars.
Let's see what Oscars it won.

Maurio Dawson (18:44):
No, I thought Moonlight beat them that year,
you know what it did go toMoonlight.

Carmen Lezeth (18:48):
You're right, that was the one that was the
mistake.
Yes, Remember they said BestPicture was La La Land and then
it was like nope, it wasMoonlight.

Cynthia Ruiz Lopez (18:58):
But it did win six Oscars.

Carmen Lezeth (19:00):
so actress, best director, cinematography,
original score, original songand production design yeah.

Rick Costa (19:08):
So when they announced it, they announced it
wrong.
Is that what happened?

Carmen Lezeth (19:11):
Yeah, at the.

Maurio Dawson (19:11):
Oscars yeah, they did, it was a big, thing, yeah.

Carmen Lezeth (19:17):
And they announced it to La La Land,
everybody jumped and they got upthere and everything and then
they were like oops, mistake.

Maurio Dawson (19:22):
Bye, bye.

Cynthia Ruiz Lopez (19:23):
It's still light.

Maurio Dawson (19:23):
Yeah.

Alma Dawson (19:26):
And I didn't even love it.

Carmen Lezeth (19:28):
But I get it.

Rick Costa (19:29):
I get why it won, but I didn't love it, but I did
walk out, and that's the onlymove I've ever done of the cable
guy.
I told y'all I brought my thengirlfriend and then she decided
to bring her friends.
I'm like what you doing?
And then the movie.
I was already annoyed becauseof that situation in the first
place.
And the movie.
I like Jim Carrey, but thismovie I couldn't stand it.
I was like I gots to go.

(19:50):
You could stay watch out, notstay there.

Maurio Dawson (19:52):
I feel you.

Carmen Lezeth (19:54):
But I don't think you hated Cable Guy as much as
they hated La La Land.
Feeling your energy, that'ssome hate right there.
Cynthia, what movie did youhate?

Cynthia Ruiz Lopez (20:07):
Oh La La Land, my Girl.

Alma Dawson (20:11):
That was going to be your favorite my Girl, my
Girl.

Maurio Dawson (20:12):
My Girl, my Girl, my Girl, my.

Alma Dawson (20:12):
Girl.

Maurio Dawson (20:12):
My.

Cynthia Ruiz Lopez (20:13):
Girl, my Girl, my Girl, my Girl, my Girl.

Rick Costa (20:15):
My Girl that one.

Cynthia Ruiz Lopez (20:16):
Well, no, I saw it at home.
But that movie and ClockworkOrange, that movie was just
really fucked me up, sorry.

Alma Dawson (20:28):
I get that.

Rick Costa (20:30):
I love psychological humor.

Alma Dawson (20:34):
You know it's disturbing, but Clockwork.

Carmen Lezeth (20:36):
Orange is a classic.
I mean it's Stanley Kubrick.
I get it.

Maurio Dawson (20:42):
I get why you wouldn't like it, for sure.
It makes sense why you don'tlike it.

Carmen Lezeth (20:46):
But nobody liked it.
I mean not that nobody liked it, but it's the art.
I mean it's disturbing.

Maurio Dawson (20:51):
It's the art of it yeah, yeah, fucking Stanley.

Rick Costa (20:55):
Have you never walked out of a movie?
Cynthia ever Literally walkedout.

Cynthia Ruiz Lopez (20:58):
No, I've never walked out.
No.

Maurio Dawson (21:00):
What about you, Carmen?
What movie have you hated?

Carmen Lezeth (21:05):
Because I know you got one.
So there are movies I won't goto to see, like I would never go
see the Cable Guy in a movie,but I've never walked out of a
movie.
If I go in, I'm like Alma, Iwill sit through it or whatever.
Let me just give it a shot,whatever.
You know what I mean.
I think one of the movies thatI regret watching was probably
Silence of the Lambs, and Iwatched it, I know, but let me,

(21:29):
oh my God, what is with the twoof you today, people?
You guys are on fire.
What happened?
Let me just tell you whyBecause it's not my genre.
I don't like anything scary orwhatever, and the only reason
why I watched it is because Iwatch every movie that's
nominated for an Oscar.
And it had been nominated andsomebody told me everything

(21:49):
about it and I went and to thisday it still disturbs me.
You know what I mean.
It's like I still.

Maurio Dawson (21:55):
You know I don't love it when you hear Keontae
and Father Beans that is thebest movie ever.

Carmen Lezeth (22:02):
I'm not saying it's not.
It deserved the Oscar that yeartoo.
I'm not saying it's not.
I'm saying for me it's one ofthe ones I regret Best movie
what.

Maurio Dawson (22:12):
No, she's a little extra with that.
I enjoyed it, but it wasn'tthat deep for me.

Alma Dawson (22:18):
That's one of my favorites.

Rick Costa (22:20):
Yeah, it's rare for a horror movie to win an Oscar,
isn't it?
Yeah, it is.

Carmen Lezeth (22:24):
I don't know if it was.
I mean, I think, the reason whyit was not considered horror.
It was considered psychological.
Yeah, like it was moreacceptable because it was drama
or whatever.
What were you going to say?

Alma Dawson (22:40):
say, rick, I'm sorry um I forgot okay, we were
talking about the best moviesilence of the lambs.

Rick Costa (22:47):
You were saying something oh, the best movie,
yeah, the best movie.
I just had something comingfrom my feed saying 10 movies
that black people get annoyed ifyou haven't watched.
And I'm like, oh okay, okay,yeah, I saw that, I saw that.
I saw that I saw everyoneexcept.
And I'm like, oh, okay, okay,yeah, I saw that, I saw that, I
saw that I saw everyone exceptone.
And I was like, oh, I don'tthink I saw that it was Harlem
Nights.
I know, I knew I was going toget that reaction.

Cynthia Ruiz Lopez (23:11):
Don't build that.
I haven't seen it either.
We're done.

Maurio Dawson (23:17):
That's it that trumps La.

Carmen Lezeth (23:18):
La Land crowd, that's criminal.
La La Land we can fight about,but that's criminal.

Rick Costa (23:31):
You gonna shoot people in the big town.
I'll watch it soon, wow.
Every other one I saw.
That's a good time.
Come on now.
You know I'm gonna watch thatone.
Go do yourself a favor, that'sa good time.

Maurio Dawson (23:39):
I was like come on now, you know I'm going to
watch that one.
No, go, do yourself a favor andhave a good time.
That is a good time movie.
You're going to laugh.

Carmen Lezeth (23:46):
That's criminal.

Maurio Dawson (23:48):
Della Reese.

Alma Dawson (23:50):
I saw like a Twitter.
You watched that crap.

Maurio Dawson (23:53):
As my daughter says, that's crazy work.
You haven't seen that, that'scrazy work.
No, that's crazy work.
You haven't seen that that'scrazy work.
No, it's like, it's one of the.
It's considered a classic forsure.
Like when you see it, when youhear us say pinky toe, you gonna
know right away, because it's aclassic line, everybody knows

(24:17):
it.

Carmen Lezeth (24:20):
Okay, I need to know what's going on with you
two.
What happened before you cameon?
There's something.
How about?

Rick Costa (24:27):
sex.
Oh my, I also saw Paradise.

Cynthia Ruiz Lopez (24:35):
Did you like?

Alma Dawson (24:36):
it, loved it, loved it.

Rick Costa (24:43):
Two snaps around the world.

Maurio Dawson (24:46):
I just took Cynthia out.
She's done.

Carmen Lezeth (24:49):
Oh Lord, oh my Lord.

Alma Dawson (24:57):
I live with her.

Rick Costa (24:58):
I never saw Cynthia laugh so hard.

Carmen Lezeth (25:00):
What is happening ?
I'm not sure I'm going to beable to air this on Sunday.
You started it.
I started it.
What did I do?

Maurio Dawson (25:11):
You said what's going on over there?
Y'all spicing and all of thisstuff.

Carmen Lezeth (25:15):
Like I said, I don't even know where we're
going now.
It's just going to be one ofthem shows.
We're talking about regrets.
I guess we're not talking aboutregrets we had this show today.
I'm regretting Whoa.

Maurio Dawson (25:33):
I was trying to have a topic show, but I think
I'm done.
I don't know, you've got tolaugh, man, you've got to laugh,
you gotta laugh.

Carmen Lezeth (25:39):
Seriously, what's going on with you guys today?
It's great, but what'shappening?
What did you guys do?

Cynthia Ruiz Lopez (25:44):
He already told you it's third Is that it?

Maurio Dawson (25:50):
Yeah, just the afterglow of love.

Carmen Lezeth (25:54):
The afterglow.
Oh Lord have mercy, I have tolive with you.

Alma Dawson (26:00):
I have to live with you.
Oh my God.

Maurio Dawson (26:06):
No, we're just having a good day.
That's all.
Oh, my God, you asked.

Carmen Lezeth (26:13):
So who did you wrong that you had to post that
on your story?

Maurio Dawson (26:18):
Oh, Not who but like?

Carmen Lezeth (26:19):
what was the circumstance?

Maurio Dawson (26:20):
well, okay, I have certain people in my life
who will show up when it'sconvenient for them, but then
when you look for reciprocationand and or a need from a friend,
and then they they're notpresent from you for you like
where you at so you, you, you,you cut people out or you give

(26:42):
them space, but you don't cutthem out completely, because you
give them some grace orwhatever well, no, I start.
I start by having realconversations.
I'm a, I'm a direct person.
I say what I mean, I mean whatI, and with my friends, it's
strike no chaser.
You ask me and I always ask myfriends are you sure you want me

(27:05):
to give my opinion, or do youwant me to be an active listener
?
What do you want?
And then they'll say, no,mariel, I want you to tell me
the truth.
Okay, are you sure?
Okay, cool, and I'll just rapidfire it off and they're like,
they're shook, and so, okay,well, but that's the truth.

(27:27):
And so it's not my truth, it'sthe truth, and they'll realize
oh, you know what?
You're absolutely right.
But then, once they get theirhealing, and then I need a
friend, they're nowhere to befound, and then that just, it's
not you ever ask them why?

Carmen Lezeth (27:43):
I'm just curious.

Maurio Dawson (27:44):
Yeah, we also know that sometimes people are
going through things and I givepeople grace for that.
But then there are some peoplewho are just selfish and
narcissistic.

Carmen Lezeth (27:53):
That's a fact.
That's a fact, that's true.
And then.
It's just simple as that.
The reason I ask is because Ijust you know, I this is one of
the things alden and I weretalking about was I just turned
around and said I have cutpeople out and they're upset or
confused as to why I cut themout?
and I said I first of all, Idon't have the time.
One of the things is I don'thave the time to explain to you

(28:17):
how to behave in our friendship,because we're 20, 30, 40 years
on now.
You haven't figured me out yet.
Like that pissed you off aboutme and then you thought it was
better to go talk to somebodyelse about it than to come to me
and you thought I wasn't gonnafind out about it.
What?
are we in high school no I waslike no, here's the thing I will

(28:39):
not do, and I use the big wordfor myself.
Even alden was like oh.
I was like I'm not havingperformative friendships anymore
.
I don't need them I don't owenobody anything.
You know what I mean like Idon't owe you nothing just
because 35 years ago you let mesleep on your couch once you
know've already beenappreciative.

(29:00):
I'm done Enough already.
So I'm done with theperformative kind of friendships
.
I'm sorry that you're annoyedat me, frustrated or whatever,
but I think people make up intheir head who they think you
are and then they expect you tobehave that way all the time.

(29:20):
You know what I'm saying.
So I was just having the sameconversation.
That's why I was curious, likeit's one of those things where
friendships have to be, not atwo-way street, because it's not
always the same time, right, noit?

Maurio Dawson (29:32):
does have to be reciprocal in the fact that
there's going to be times whereI'm going to show up for you and
I'm going to be a hundredpercent there for you, but
you're going to have to show upfor me at some point.
Because if you're not showingup for me, even at 50% of the
way that I showed up for you,then we really don't have a

(29:54):
relationship, and it wasdefinitely-.

Carmen Lezeth (29:57):
But, mario, here's the problem.
So I'm going to do what theysay to what they said to me.
Mario, you don't ever need me,you don't ever need me, you're
on your own, you're so strong.
No, that's what.
No, no, that's what I'm saying,that's what that would be my
question.

Maurio Dawson (30:10):
Who said that?
Who told you that?

Carmen Lezeth (30:12):
well, my whole thing was I don't.
So I, I didn't say, I didn'tsay that way.
I said that is a belief systemyou've made up in your head.

Maurio Dawson (30:20):
Boom.
But see, I straight asked thequestion like who told you that?
Did I say that to you?
Did those words come out of mymouth?
Because you're assuming and youknow what they say about
assumptions.
You understand what I'm saying,so therefore don't put words in
my mouth.
But you saw that I wasstruggling, you saw that I was

(30:40):
having a crisis.
You know what was going on inmy life, in my personal life, as
my friend, because I said youknow what I'm going through this
.

Carmen Lezeth (30:49):
Oh, I'm sorry, that's all you got like well, no
, if somebody tells me that theyneed something, I get it, but
I'm also not a mind reader,right, right, you know what.
Here's the thing too, thoughthis is an interesting
conversation.
Here's the thing too.
Why is it?

(31:10):
I'm the only person you come towhen you need something like,
right, like there are 15 otherpeople, you can go.
What, wait, wait, what, what?

Alma Dawson (31:20):
well, because we're kind of we're kind of mirroring
, like what your situation is,kind of mirroring a situation in
our lives yeah well, a coupleof a couple of situations, you
know, and we're kind of handlingit differently.
I got you, you so, yeah, so,when everything that you're

(31:40):
saying it's like conversationsthat we literally were having
last night.

Maurio Dawson (31:44):
Yeah.

Alma Dawson (31:44):
Literally.

Maurio Dawson (31:46):
Like just you know, private conversation where
you're like you know what I'mtired of X, y and Z, you know.

Alma Dawson (31:53):
Only reaching out to them.
Yeah, only reaching out to youknow all the negative.
I'm like.
Well, it's like they'retreating us like a garbage, can
they're coming and putting allthe bad stuff?

Maurio Dawson (32:04):
You're dumping on me, but you're not pouring into
me.
You understand what I'm saying.
I understand.
I'm not your trash can.
I'm not just going to keeptaking all your garbage in, but
you're not pouring into me.

Alma Dawson (32:20):
Not sharing anything positive, not sharing
good, only bringing thenegatives.

Carmen Lezeth (32:25):
I told somebody that day they need to go get
therapy.
I'm not a therapist.

Alma Dawson (32:29):
That's the next step.
That's going to be the nextstep.
We're trying to do it in a kindway.

Carmen Lezeth (32:36):
Yeah, I'm more bitchy as I get older, which is,
but we're trying to do it in akind way.
Yeah, do it in a kind way.

Alma Dawson (32:43):
I'm more bitchy as I get older, which is hard to
believe.
Well, that's, I know, right.

Carmen Lezeth (32:48):
I just really I think as you get older it gets
easier to let go of people, yes,and not to keep trying to get
back to regret.
It's easier to let go of peopleand not to keep trying to get
back to regret.
But I do regret that I didn'tgo with my gut instincts when I
was younger and realize that youdon't have to have a whole
bunch of people around you,especially if all they're
spewing is toxicity.
Like I wish I knew that when Iwas younger and could have made

(33:12):
some bigger, smarter decisionsto let go of people much quicker
.
But it is kind of that thingwhere you're just kind of like
you're just exhausted by thesame.
It's the sameness and it's likewhat you're saying.
People keep dumping negativityand toxicity in you and then
you're supposed to just take itor help them or fix it.

(33:34):
And I'm like bitch, I'm tired,I got my own stuff and you're
not helping me in any way, shapeor form.
You're not doing nothing tomake my day smile or make my day
better.
You're not even asking me howare you that part?

Alma Dawson (33:48):
And see for me, even I don't have to have a long
conversation with you, I don'tneed a lot, but just check on me
to say, hey, we haven't talkedin a few days or in a couple of
weeks.
You doing, okay, everyone, allright, that's all I need Just to
feel like, oh okay, someone'sthinking about me, you know,
because sometimes that's justwhat people need.

(34:08):
They just need to know thatsomeone's thinking about them.
Somebody cares, you know, butyou know some people can't even
do that for you.
So it's kind of like okay, well, you are on mute, I'm on mute
too, and I'm really like doneand people don't understand if
I'm done, I'm done, yeah, I'mgood.

Carmen Lezeth (34:25):
Yeah, it's like a light switch.
I'm just it's not evensomething I'm trying to do, it
just happens.
It's so interesting because youuse the same verbiage and I
know what you mean.
But they said to me I need youto check on me on a regular
basis, because I need to knowthat I'm not alone.
And I was like, okay, here'sthe thing you have a husband and

(34:46):
you have family.
Why is it my responsibility tocheck on you on a regular basis?
And it was kind of this thingwhere it was like I understood
what she was saying, but it wasalso putting a lot of pressure
on me, like so if I don't emailyou or text you or call you,
then you're upset because Ihaven't reached out and text you
and call you.
But you could just as easilymotherfucking pick up the
goddamn stupid ass phone and dothe same shit.

Alma Dawson (35:09):
That part and that's how I feel about it too.
Phones work both ways.
I've had the same phone numberfor over 20 years.
So you, I've had the same phonenumber for over 20 years.
So you know, now, now, if Ifeel like, oh, I, someone comes
into my thought, you know, to mybrain, my thought bubble, I'm
like, well, you know what?
Let me shoot off a quick text.
Hey, thought about you today,hope you're doing well, send,

(35:33):
and that's it.
I send the message and that'sit.
I'm not expecting a messageback, I'm not expecting anything
.
But you know, it was on myheart to reach out to that
person.
So I did not expecting anythingback.
But you know, and that doeshappen from time to time and
I'll be like you know what Ithought about so-and-so today.
So I sent them a, a message.

Carmen Lezeth (35:54):
70% of the time they won't respond back see,
okay, okay, I'm gonna disagreewith you then, so this is what
we're gonna.
Anybody sends me a message, Irespond right away.
I just do it.

Alma Dawson (36:05):
I do it, but like I said, the best is something
about them.
You understand what I'm saying,not about me.
You know what I'm saying, but Idon't want to be like, oh, I
thought about them.
Let's say they fall over dead.
You know, three days later, andI'm oh, I thought about them.
Let's say they fall over dead.
You know, three days later, andI'm like, oh, I thought about
them and I didn't reach out.

Maurio Dawson (36:22):
I mean, Would this happen?

Alma Dawson (36:25):
But you know so that's what I'm saying.

Carmen Lezeth (36:28):
I'm a little bit different.
If I send you a message, youcan do a fucking thumbs up in
your text message, something tolet me know you got it If not.
I'm very different.
No, if I've gone out of my wayand sent you a quick message,
you can just thumbs up or wavesomething, Cause if not, then I
get worried.
But it's so funny, Like Ihaven't talked to him in a long

(36:50):
time.
We haven't talked cause he'sbeen traveling or whatever.
And so when he just called, Ipicked up and we were talking
and I said, oh my God, it'salmost an hour.
And he's like what are youtalking about?
We've always talked for likethree hours.
I'm like dude, we have neverspoken this long.
But it's so funny because youjust get into the whole

(37:11):
conversation, whatever.
And it's just.
I'm okay having the low momentswhere we don't talk for
whatever reason.
You're in another country, I'mreally busy, whatever.
But real friendship candistinguish that yes, between
you just not being there for meyes, because I know for a fact.
If I text alden, I knew he wasin switzerland and I text him

(37:32):
and said I needed to talk.
That motherfucker would havebeen on the damn phone yeah,
exactly I love the ones.

Cynthia Ruiz Lopez (37:38):
I love the ones when you know a person dies
and all these people show upand they're like, oh my god,
they were such a wonderfulperson.
It's like really, where wereyou all these years?
You never called, you neverlooked for them, you never asked
about their family.
Like no, don't come to myfucking funeral if you haven't
called me.
Ask about my family when I'mgone.

(38:01):
Don't ask about my familyafterwards because you didn't
care when I was here.

Alma Dawson (38:07):
I've given Marissa permission to do and she knows.
You'll know who's been in ourlives and you'll know who hasn't
.
You don't have to.
You can call specific peopleand tell them when my Don't come
You're not welcome.
I told her she can do it and.
I told her.

(38:28):
I will give you a list of thepeople who I want to make
remarks and you're going topre-record them and it's going
to be played at the service.
Nobody's going to get a chanceto get up to the mic and say, oh
, I remember no.

Carmen Lezeth (38:45):
She can control, even where she go.

Alma Dawson (38:47):
I love that I can't stand that.

Carmen Lezeth (38:51):
Well, my cousin was going to say something, Rick
.
You were going to say something.

Rick Costa (38:55):
Sorry, I was going to just put a little twist on it
.
I have a lot of patience, maybemore than almost anybody I know
.
I mean, look at my situationI'm living in.
But everybody got a toleranceof what they can take and I
can't stand when people thinkthey can keep abusing me and
I'll forgive because I'm aChristian and know 70 times 7

(39:18):
and, yeah, I will try my best.
But don't turn around and getmad at me when you have abused
me and mistreated me and try tomake me be the villain when I
say I'm done with you.
You did this, not me.
Oh, I hate that.

Alma Dawson (39:36):
Oh, I don't have a problem telling people, I don't
mind being the villain in yourstory that part, that part I
never have a problem at all yeah, not, and I know I am no, I'm a
villain in a lot of people'sstory and I'm happy to wear that
crown I think also people umyour, the, your style, the way

(39:58):
in which you, you're just likeAlden in that.

Carmen Lezeth (40:01):
I don't know why, it's because I just got off the
phone with him.
That's why we had a reallygreat conversation.

Rick Costa (40:05):
Shout out to Alden, Hi Alden.

Cynthia Ruiz Lopez (40:08):
Hi Alden.

Carmen Lezeth (40:11):
And happy early birthday.
His birthday is in April.
Oh, happy birthday.
Yeah, he'll be in Spain on hisbirthday.
I still have to text him.
But his stuff, we were talkingabout this.
He doesn't like confrontation,which you don't either, whereas
me and Mario, and I believe,alma too, we okay with
confrontation.
We okay with it and it's not oneis better than the other, it's

(40:33):
just different styles.
You know what I mean.
But the reason why some peopleturn around and do that to you
and do that to Alden is becausethey actually think that they
can make you feel bad for thecircumstance that they did you
know what I mean that theycreated, whereas what they don't
realize is that especiallybecause, as I know you, you

(40:54):
don't forget that shit, you maybe kind about it, whereas I
might just say the state, youknow the straight up truth, you
don't forget that shit, you maybe kind about it, whereas I
might just say the state, youknow the straight up truth, you
don't forget it and you dohandle it.
Just differently.

Rick Costa (41:04):
You know what I mean there's a guy today on my um.
There's a facebook group I haveand this one guy.
Every time he pops in to saysomething, he's asking for money
.
I'm like brah.
He's like I'll send you thereceipt.
Our electricity got shut off,my wife got brought to the
hospital.
I ain't got enough gas to getto the job.
I'm gonna get fired.
Then I'm gonna do that and I'mlike, okay, sad story, we all

(41:26):
have one.
I was like, but can you?
People are telling me they'resick of hearing you asking for
money, so I'm giving you achance, please stop doing it.
And he did it again today.
And I was like, okay, that's itBanned.
And all these messages.
Thank you Rick.
Thank you Rick.
I was supposed to get him.
Thank you, rick.
Affecting everybody that much,but yeah.

Carmen Lezeth (41:47):
Well, because it's hard to keep hearing people
begging for money the sameperson, though.

Maurio Dawson (41:52):
Yeah.

Carmen Lezeth (41:52):
Yeah, I mean.

Rick Costa (41:54):
And the craziest thing is he has never come on
any of our broadcasts mine orthe other two people.
I've never even seen him.
Why are you coming here askingfor money?

Carmen Lezeth (42:03):
Even if he did.
I mean, you and I both know ofa similar situation where, you
know I don't, this whole jokeabout me being bougie and having
money has really badramifications, because people
then keep asking me for moneyand they keep going to other
people to ask me for money andso I had to turn around and cut
people out Cause I'm like Idon't.
First of all, even if I did, Iwouldn't give it to you because

(42:25):
I ain't a fucking bank.
And secondly, why are youasking me?

Maurio Dawson (42:30):
No, it's a okay.
All the listeners and all theviewers.
Carmen is not a bank.
She is truly.
She's not bougie, she'sbougie-toe.

Carmen Lezeth (42:44):
Bougie-toe.

Maurio Dawson (42:45):
She is not bougie .
Okay, there is a big damndifference.
Get out of her pocket.
People in the back hear that.

Rick Costa (42:53):
Just making sure, yes.

Maurio Dawson (42:54):
All the people in the balcony, in the mezzanine,
in the loge, all up in thecorner and rose easy look.

Carmen Lezeth (43:02):
I've asked people for money when I got in trouble
, when I had, especially during,uh, when the economy tanked
back in 2000 what was it?
2008-9?
Um, and I lost my home, like somany people did, and I couldn't
get work.
After that.
It was really hard.
I asked people for money.
Now, I didn't do it like rent.

(43:22):
I asked my family, my brothersfrom another, mother's you know
what I mean.
And here's the thing I didn'thave to ask them.
That's what I'm saying.
I didn't even have to ask.
They knew and they were likewe're going to send you this, we
got things, we're going to hookyou up.

Cynthia Ruiz Lopez (43:40):
Yeah, what you need.

Maurio Dawson (43:40):
We see you struggling, that's family, and
that's friends who show up foryou, who are supposed to do it
the right way.
I'm like me, who had someonejust calling me on the rando
asking me for money and wait,but wait, wait.
Didn't ask me for money once.
Asked me for money four times,wait.
Did you give it to them thefirst time?

(44:01):
No, I said no.
I said oh no.
I said my daughter's in school,which she was.
I said she's in college.
I said we're trying to wrap upschool tuition, all this stuff,
even though she was onscholarship.
That's not the point.
We still had bills we had totake care of.
I said no, I don't have it.
Then they went down by $50 thenext month.

(44:23):
Can I have this much?
I don't have it.
Then it went down by another$50.
The next month I don't have it.
I tell you what I say send meyour Venmo or your Zelle.
I said when I have it I'll sendit to you which you've never
gotten Right they're stillwaiting on it.

Carmen Lezeth (44:43):
I've always said if I won the lottery, if I came
into a lot of money, the firstrule is anybody who asks me for
money would not get any.

Maurio Dawson (44:51):
I'm asking you now.

Alma Dawson (44:55):
I can't stand them, I can't.

Maurio Dawson (45:00):
That way, I have a prerequisite.

Cynthia Ruiz Lopez (45:02):
I'm asking now You're breaking this half a
day.
So, mario and Elma, has anyoneasked either one of you for
money?
And if you didn't have it, didthey ask your spouse?

Maurio Dawson (45:14):
No, they know better.

Alma Dawson (45:15):
Yeah, anybody who knows us knows that we are a
united front.

Maurio Dawson (45:21):
And we've told each other stuff like that.

Carmen Lezeth (45:24):
Except with me and Mario.

Rick Costa (45:31):
That's like the banana, the chocolate the
bullshit, Mario look.
I always tell people, if youtell some, if somebody is
married and you told one, you'vealready told them.

Carmen Lezeth (45:44):
I know, cynthia, that's happened with you in one
I know that's happened with youat one.

Cynthia Ruiz Lopez (45:48):
That's crazy.

Alma Dawson (45:49):
But for people to think that you you could do that
to one and not think thatyou're going to tell your spouse
or ask your spouse, but I mean,and not think that you're going
to tell your spouse or ask yourspouse, but I mean.
I think that there's people whothink like that's how you
operate, but the thing is thatif you've ever truly had a
healthy relationship, youunderstand that it's a

(46:11):
partnership.

Carmen Lezeth (46:13):
I've had the opposite problem happen.
So I remember somebody offeredto help me and it was here's the
thing this person has tons ofmoney.
Well, you know, compared to usthey're comfortable, comfortable
.
And I forget why.
I think it was during the sametime period and I remember being
like you know what, if youcould send me like $1,200, that

(46:35):
would help me just for rent forthe next two months or something
.
I was like and I could piece ittogether whatever.
And he was like I got you,don't worry, I'll do it.
Here is the worst thing youcould ever do.
So I'm waiting for the money tocome into my account or to be
mailed.
Three weeks weeks later, I haveto reach out and be like right,

(46:59):
don't offer people fuckingmoney or don't offer someone
desperate and say I can help you.
And I had to reach back out tohim.
This is why we don't talk, nomore.
I swear to God.
This is why we don't talk,Because it was so disrespectful.
And then he said the spousething.
He's like you.
You know what I have to talk tomy wife and I was like, first

(47:20):
of all, 1200.
You know what I could see.
First of all, I would never askanybody for 20 grand or
something like that, but 1200 ofthis person is like you asking
me for five bucks and me beinglike mario I got you.
I'll send you the five dollarsright now.
I'm venmo, right like I'm notgonna make you wait three weeks
and then you're gonna.
You said you won'll send youthe $5 right now.
I'm not going to make you waitthree weeks.
And then you said you won'tsend me the $5.
To this day, it is one of thereasons why I have no respect

(47:45):
for that person, because it wassuch a loser-esque kind of
excuse and you don't do that.
First of all, I know it's hardfor people to ask for money.
See, this is the other thing.
I know what it's like to nothave anything.
I know what it's like to bedesperate and to be in pain and
to be suffering and to be aloneand to needing whatever it is

(48:06):
you think you need in thatmoment.
I got you and it's hard to askfor money.
I've only asked for money, likemyself, that person and like
one other time when I was ateenager.
Any other time, people who havehad money offered it to me
because they knew I was introuble.
You know what I mean.

(48:29):
I know what it's like.
So it's even harder for me totell people no, because I'm not
a bank or I ain't got that.
Somebody asked me one time couldyou let I swear to you ask me,
can you lend me $100,000, I waslike what I swear to you?
This is like four years.
Four years ago they were likedo you have?

(48:51):
Could you, could you help usout, us family us out?
We're looking for $100,000 ifyou give.
They had a whole plan and we'relooking for a hundred thousand
dollars if you give it.
They had a whole plan and wecould pay it back in
installments.
And I was like, did you say,what did you, what did you say
or do that would give them theidea or the familiarity I'll

(49:13):
tell you what it is ask you thatthis is why I don't tell people
who I work for, but I thinkpeople always assume because I
work for rich people that Isomehow will have access to
money or access to something andand I think that's what it is
it's like, and I I stoppedtalking to that person too

(49:35):
clearly, cause I'm like youclearly don't know anything
about who I am.

Maurio Dawson (49:38):
No, clearly you fell and hurt yourself.
You fell really hard.

Cynthia Ruiz Lopez (49:45):
On their head.

Rick Costa (49:47):
Oscar winning movie.
Did you see me in Right Right,right, right, right, right,
right, right?

Cynthia Ruiz Lopez (49:51):
Right, right, right, right, right Right
.

Carmen Lezeth (50:02):
Right, look it.
I think money is really hardand I honestly I think Cynthia
can vouch for this I don't givea fuck about money.
When I have it, I give it away.
When I don't have it, I don'thave it, and I do the best I can
.
And whatever, I think money isan unfortunate thing that humans
have to deal with and if itwasn't cash money, it would be

(50:23):
bartering, it'd be all the sameshit.
You know what I mean, becausethat's how we function in
society, but I think it's areally terrible thing because I
think it hurts more than ithelps.
You know what I mean.
Like as far as relationships go, like you have to know who your
friends are when you don't gotmoney, because when you do have
money, all of a suddeneverybody's going to be your

(50:45):
friend.

Maurio Dawson (50:46):
Exactly, oh yeah.

Alma Dawson (50:47):
Oh yeah, I think one of the things, one of the
one of the things also thatMario and I always say if we
have it and we, we give it.
I always say if we have it andwe, we give it, we just give it
freely.
Oh yeah, we don't expect to getit back.
You know, if we do, then it's ablessing we get it back, but if
not, then it's not somethingthat we're like.
Oh, they owe us.

Carmen Lezeth (51:11):
Well, Cynthia, I'm gonna embarrass you right
now.
Cynthia lent me I forget howmany thousand.
What was that about?
See, everyone thinks I'm bougieand I'm telling you all the
times I needed money.

Cynthia Ruiz Lopez (51:19):
I forget how many thousand dollars you
lent me, I think it was two orthree it was like two or three,
but I paid you back.

Carmen Lezeth (51:24):
Right, Because that's the other part of this.
You want to be somebody whohonors your word.
You're not going to borrowmoney right, so you're not the
person.
I'm sorry, did I just embarrassyou?
No, no, no.
Yeah, I'm not the bougie onepeople.

Maurio Dawson (51:40):
Okay, what you're saying is Lindsay is the bougie
, she's undercover bougie.

Carmen Lezeth (51:46):
Undercover bougie over there.
Okay, no, no, I forget.
I think it was during the sametime period, was it?

Cynthia Ruiz Lopez (51:54):
I don't know.

Carmen Lezeth (51:55):
I think it was right around COVID.

Cynthia Ruiz Lopez (51:56):
It was COVID.

Carmen Lezeth (51:59):
It was during COVID and you sent me a few
thousand dollars or whatever,and I think within the year I
paid you right back or whatever.
And that's what you have to do,Like if you're going to ask for
money, then you actually shouldpay it back.

Cynthia Ruiz Lopez (52:12):
And you were funny about it because
you're like I could pay you backthis day and I'm like it's fine
.
I said, when you have it, payit back.

Maurio Dawson (52:24):
There's a difference between saying can I
borrow?

Carmen Lezeth (52:26):
and can I have?
Do people say can I have to youyes, I've had people say can I
have?

Maurio Dawson (52:34):
If I have it, I'll say sure you can have it,
because that way I go into it,with the expectation of not
getting it back.
Can I have it?
I'll say sure you can have it,because, see, that way I go into
it with the expectation of notgetting it back.

Carmen Lezeth (52:40):
Can I have $5,000 more?
I'm asking you now, before youget that money.

Maurio Dawson (52:44):
When I get it.
That's what I'm saying I gotyou, friend, when I get it, I
got you.
What's your Venmo, what's yourcash?
Right, I already got your Venmo.
See, that's the good thing, Igot you It'll just pop up when I
got it, you get it.

Carmen Lezeth (53:00):
Money is a difficult thing.

Maurio Dawson (53:08):
When we were really struggling because I was
super, super sick.
But then those were thosepeople who were just showing up
for us to say don't give it backto us, this is a gift.
You guys got Marissa.
You guys got to take care ofeach other.
Or they would just show up withsome groceries, or they would
show up with some food, somedinner, or they show up at the
hospital with meals for Alma andMarissa.

(53:30):
Or we have two of our dearestfriends say, hey, let me go come
get Marissa so we can give youguys a break, or give an Alma a
break and take her to the movies, or take her to the park or get
her out of that there aredifferent ways you can pay back.

Carmen Lezeth (53:48):
You don't have to .

Maurio Dawson (53:49):
it doesn't have to be money, but when you just
show up and be present and justsay I got you, that's all
somebody needs to hear.
Those are the type of friendsyou want in your corner.
So these people who I have now,who are on some bullshit you
missed me with that bullshit.
So I see you over there, youknow, because then you're not,

(54:10):
are you really a friend?

Carmen Lezeth (54:12):
So do you regret having them as friends, or has
it just grown into this?

Maurio Dawson (54:17):
No, not at all, because, as the saying goes,
some people come into your lifefor a reason or a lifetime.
No, that was not Tyler Perry,no.

Alma Dawson (54:26):
Tyler Perry, and that's so funny because I just
saw that Tyler Perry comparedthe friendships like a tree
Right, the tree has leaves.

Maurio Dawson (54:36):
Oh, right, right right, some people have roots.

Alma Dawson (54:38):
They're green, you know, and they're nice and they
provide shade, but then a strongwind blows and they fly off
because they can't get rid, orthey turn brown and they fall
and they die and they're gone.
Some are like branches.
Some branches are sturdy, butif you get too far out there
then they break, he's like, andthen you have friends who are
roots, the friends who are thereand hold you down.

Carmen Lezeth (55:03):
The roots are the people who have the money no.
I'm just kidding.
Those are the real friends,though.

Maurio Dawson (55:08):
We love you real friends.
We love you rich friends.

Carmen Lezeth (55:10):
Yeah, yeah, I mean, I think that's.
You're absolutely right, thereis, but then that's the
difference in our friendshipsand that's a whole other
conversation.
That's it.

Maurio Dawson (55:20):
The cousin I told you about.
We went to his funeral and hetold everybody don't speak at my
funeral.
He said because you had nothingto say to me, if you, didn't
give me my flowers when I washere.
Don't give them to me now.
He sent that message throughthe pastor.

Alma Dawson (55:34):
He said so we will have no remarks here.

Maurio Dawson (55:36):
There will be no remarks.

Alma Dawson (55:38):
There were none.

Maurio Dawson (55:38):
There were none.

Alma Dawson (55:39):
And the family had an opportunity to do it.
They had like a family smallservice the day before.

Maurio Dawson (55:47):
And he also.
They made a running joke abouthim and the fact that he made
everyone sign a contract Becausehe was rolling in dough, but he
made everybody sign.

Alma Dawson (55:56):
Oh that.

Maurio Dawson (55:59):
And he said okay, I'm going to sign a sign here
that I gave it to you, okay, andhe just he said, not that I'm
asking you to give it back to mein time soon, he said, but this
is business, family or not?
His son-in-law, his kids hiswife.

Alma Dawson (56:15):
Everybody went up there talking about it.
Everybody talked about it.
I didn't know he was giving themoney.

Maurio Dawson (56:21):
Oh, I knew he had money like that.

Carmen Lezeth (56:23):
That's hilarious when I die.
I don't even want all that, Ijust want a party.
I don't even want everyone toget together, I just want
everyone to celebrate my life intheir own way.
You know my bench.

Cynthia Ruiz Lopez (56:40):
I'm going to Disneyland.
We're going to cremate you,carmen.
We're going to cremate you,right, we're going to put a
little bit at your spot at yourbed.

Alma Dawson (56:50):
No, no no, how about a little piece of every
Disneyland, right?
No, you're not allowed, you'renot.

Rick Costa (56:58):
How about a little piece of every Disneyland?

Carmen Lezeth (57:01):
Right?
No, I will be sad and miserableand I will haunt you.

Maurio Dawson (57:07):
We took a haunted mansion.
That would be even better.

Carmen Lezeth (57:10):
You all think I'm going to die before you.
That's adorable, very cute,thank you.
No, I don't want any.
I don't want people to gettogether, whatever, but like I
want everyone to just send outan email or text.

Alma Dawson (57:27):
No, I love it when you see those stories and say my
, you know when I die.
I want my kids to send out atext from my phone saying let me
out of here, let me out of here.
I love that, or why are youhere?
I haven't seen you in 10 years.

Maurio Dawson (57:47):
They have to come from that person's phone.

Carmen Lezeth (57:49):
That is so funny I should do that.

Alma Dawson (57:52):
I think I want you to do that.
She's like Mom, I'm like, Ithink I do, I think I do too.
Send it out to all my contacts.

Carmen Lezeth (58:01):
That'd be so mean and funny.
We're past.

Alma Dawson (58:03):
We're going to have to close this up, but any last
remarks on regret or joy, ofmoney or friendships, I say
don't live in regrets, you know,enjoy, enjoy your life, enjoy
your present, leave yesterday inyour rearview mirror.

Rick Costa (58:19):
there you go yeah, yeah there's a reason why I
gotta put our eyes in the frontboom, oh, okay oh, just enjoy
every day.

Cynthia Ruiz Lopez (58:35):
You never know when it's going to be your
last.

Rick Costa (58:39):
Rest in peace, val yeah, rest in peace.

Carmen Lezeth (58:41):
Val Kilmer.
Thank you everyone, remember atthe end of the day it really is
all about the joy.
Bye everyone.
Thanks for stopping by.
All About the Joy.
Be better and stay beautifulfolks.
Have a sweet day.