July 6, 2025 • 43 mins
What happens when your reputation is on the line? Our hosts dive deep into this question, sharing personal revelations about how others perceive them and whether it matters. Carmen admits she's often seen as "hard" (though Rick suggests "firm" might be more accurate), while Cynthia believes she's known for having "a big heart." Rick identifies as loyal and family-oriented, standing by his commitments even when difficult.
The conversation takes unexpected turns as the hosts explore the concept of "living so nobody can say anything bad about you" – an ideal that seems nearly impossible in today's world. Carmen shares a personal struggle about walking away from a grant opportunity despite needing funding, illustrating how sometimes we must choose between external validation and inner peace. When she finally sent the email withdrawing from the process, the immediate relief confirmed she'd made the right decision.
A spirited debate emerges when Rick mentions his interest in AI music creation, prompting a fascinating discussion about artificial intelligence, creativity, and attribution. Carmen raises thoughtful questions about using AI-generated content without crediting original creators, highlighting the ethical dilemmas content creators face in this emerging landscape. The hosts wonder if we might see a shift back toward valuing authentic, human-created content as AI becomes more prevalent.
The most compelling moments come when the hosts discuss how quickly reputation can be destroyed, particularly for social media influencers. They share examples of content creators who made mistakes and, instead of acknowledging them, doubled down and attacked critics – causing irreparable damage to their public image. This leads to the realization that how we respond to criticism might be more important than avoiding mistakes altogether.
Whether you're building a personal brand, navigating social relationships, or simply trying to live authentically, this conversation offers valuable insights into the delicate balance between caring about others' perceptions and staying true to yourself. Join us for this thought-provoking exploration of reputation, integrity, and the courage to stand by your convictions.
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Carmen Lezeth (00:08):
wow, hi everyone, welcome to all about the
private lounge.
We are, uh always, alwayslearning and enjoying the
technicalities of restream, soshout out to restream that I pay
so much money for.
Yeah, woo, I am not advocatingyou get Restream, but I'm not
(00:29):
saying you shouldn't.
It's all a thing.
Rick Costa (00:31):
So Rick Costas in the house.
Carmen Lezeth (00:34):
Hi Hi, rick, how you doing what's up.
Rick Costa (00:36):
What's up?
Carmen Lezeth (00:37):
Cynthia Lopez Ruiz Ruiz Lopez Lopez.
Oh Jess, cynthia, I'm just over.
Hi, cynthia, how you doing?
Hey, last week's episode was sogreat, so those of you who
didn't catch the Private Loungelast week please check it out.
It's so good with Dr Means andwe got some decent hits and so
I'm really excited about it.
(00:57):
But really inspiring woman.
So I just wanted to make sureFor those of you who needed a
little inspiration, she's theright person to go check out.
You guys checked it out right.
Well, cynthia, you were on theshow, but Rick, were you able to
watch it at all?
You were on the show On Sunday.
I was watching oh you were onon Sunday, that's right.
I'm so sorry.
Rick Costa (01:16):
I'm so sorry, I'm on the show.
Carmen Lezeth (01:18):
Look it, it's been a week.
Okay, but yeah, so first let'sstart with.
What do you think about yourreputation?
Does it matter to you whatothers think about you or what
other organizations think aboutyou?
Or do you go into a bank everand try to apply for a loan and
not get one, and does that makeyou feel bad?
Cynthia Ruiz Lopez (01:39):
I think rejection makes anyone feel bad,
regardless of what it is.
Is it makes anyone feel badregardless of what it is, but I
don't think I've ever had to doanything like that.
As far as reputation like mything is, I always want people
to know that I am a good person.
Like somebody talks crap aboutme like it may or may not be
true, you know, like Carmenalways says, I'm the mean one,
(02:02):
but there are times I can be.
I can be, I'm not going to lie.
Carmen Lezeth (02:06):
I'm just saying between you and me you're the
mean one, but everyone thinks Iam.
Cynthia Ruiz Lopez (02:18):
For the most part, my reputation is I have a
big heart and you know I docare about people and that is
true and it does make you feelgood and stuff.
So I don't know, I think itjust kind of depends on the
reputation whether it matters ornot.
Carmen Lezeth (02:28):
But wait, I think it's interesting.
So you think your reputation isis what again?
Cynthia Ruiz Lopez (02:32):
What was that again that I have a big
heart and that I do care aboutpeople.
Carmen Lezeth (02:36):
Big car- no, I'm just kidding Big heart.
What else?
Sorry, you gotta read what andwhat else, and that I care about
people.
It's true.
What's your reputation?
What do you think yourreputation is?
Rick Costa (02:56):
I think the biggest thing is can you be dependent
upon?
If can you be dependent upon,are you a man or a woman of your
word?
Do people think of you astruthful or yeah?
Carmen Lezeth (03:08):
wait, but what's your reputation?
Rick Costa (03:11):
what is my reputation?
Carmen Lezeth (03:12):
yeah, what do you think it is?
Rick Costa (03:17):
family oriented, clearly, because I'm taking care
of my mom, which which is veryhard.
Super loyal and faithful to theend.
Same job for over 20 years.
Even though I get treated likecrap, like loyal and through no
matter what thick and thin, I'mthere, I'm sticking with you,
(03:38):
hello.
Would you guys have been herethe whole time?
Even when it's super hard, Imake a way.
I find a way to go out and comeout even if it's super hard, I
make a way.
Cynthia Ruiz Lopez (03:51):
I find a way to go out and come out, even if
it's going through htw hockeysticks.
But yeah, cynthia, what did?
Carmen Lezeth (03:53):
you say, when you just oh, I said, and he's
religious, you know, oh yeah,religious, yeah, I'm like, and
what that's actually somethingthat was when I first started
getting religious was?
Rick Costa (04:04):
it talks about reputation quite a bit in the
Bible actually.
So that was pounded into mybrain of like make it so easy
that people will talk bad aboutyou.
Live in such a way that nobodycan say anything bad about you.
Carmen Lezeth (04:17):
But is that really possible?
I mean in such a way thatnobody can say anything bad
about you.
Try.
Cynthia Ruiz Lopez (04:24):
You can try, but the haters are still going
to hate.
I think that says more aboutthem than it does about you.
Yeah.
Carmen Lezeth (04:33):
That's interesting.
I don't know.
I just, yeah, I don't want toget into it so what about you,
carmen?
I think I'm hard.
I think people think I'm prettyhard and mean Blunt Probably
blunt is a better word.
I think people think I might befunny, maybe a little bit too
sarcastic or something.
I think my reputation has moreof a negative.
(04:54):
I tend to look at the negativesides of what people think of me
, not the good stuff.
It's not that I don't care, Ido care.
But I think there's alsosomething about being strong and
I have conviction and I standon what I believe.
There are that part of it too.
I am absolutely loyal until youfuck up and then I'm not.
(05:19):
I will drop you quickly if Irealize you're not a good person
.
So I think I have really strictrules and it bothers some
people, but I think myreputation matters to me because
I've worked so hard to try tobe a good person.
It doesn't mean I always succeed.
Being a good person doesn'tmean you don't sometimes make
(05:41):
mistakes and fail.
You know what I mean.
Like you do, but can you own upto it?
Can you take the hit?
You know what I mean.
Can you get back up?
You know that's.
That's about integrity, that'sabout character, that's about
perseverance.
You know, and I think all ofthat is part of your reputation,
you know, and I think it doesmatter to me.
(06:03):
It matters to me a lot.
People are like it don't matter, I don't care what people think
.
I care what people thinkbecause I've worked very hard to
be who I am and I want you tothink before you come in my
space.
You know what I mean.
Like I don't want you to beconfused as to who we're going
to be if you're going to be inmy life, because I definitely
(06:24):
have boundaries and I definitelyhave um rules about being in my
life and some people don't likeit and that's okay, you know
it's I do and I don't, both atthe same time.
Rick Costa (06:37):
I would like people to think well of me, but if you
don't, you don't pay my bills.
Carmen Lezeth (06:45):
I think it would be weird to walk around life
thinking everybody thinks highlyof you or thinks great you know
, or like that you have a greatreputation, you know.
Somebody said it was about ego.
That my problem is is I havetoo much ego.
I'm like, okay, what do youwant me to do?
Cynthia Ruiz Lopez (07:03):
I don't know what that means.
I think they confuse ego withconfidence.
Yes.
Okay, what do you want me to do?
I don't know what that means.
I think they confuse ego withconfidence.
Yes.
Carmen Lezeth (07:08):
Okay, woo yes.
Rick Costa (07:11):
One of the first words you said was hard.
I would replace hard with firm.
Okay, it's a slight difference,but it's a difference.
Cynthia Ruiz Lopez (07:21):
It makes a difference.
Rick Costa (07:21):
Hard is almost like impenetrable where firm is.
I'm not backing down.
Yeah, that's fair.
That's fair, it makes adifference.
Carmen Lezeth (07:25):
It's almost like impenetrable where firm is.
I'm not backing down.
Yeah, that's fair.
That's fair, I'll take that.
Yeah, I think I don't know.
I think I made the decisionabout stepping away from the
grants and it made me a littlebit sad because I really think
that we have something worthy,or that I have something worthy
that needs funding.
Do you know what I mean?
(07:46):
But I had to make this decisionbecause, number one, it was
stressing me out.
It was so stressing me out andit was making me like do you
ever do something where you'rejust like you know you shouldn't
be doing it, but you're doingit?
But all your insides are likejust, and I always listened to
my instinct and I gave it a shot, know a shot.
Like I've been doing this forfour weeks and I'm like you know
(08:07):
what I'm done four weeks out ofthe 12 weeks.
I'm like I'm out.
At the beginning I was like, oh, okay, you have to do your
business health and you have tofill out all the paperwork and
you know you had to do all thesetime things.
I'm like, okay, well, that'scool, I can do that.
And I was getting up early orstaying up late or whatever it
(08:30):
was to do it and I was like,okay, this is fine, cause it's
putting me in the processgetting my business plan
together, blah, blah, blah.
But the next part?
I just was like this is wrong.
Rick Costa (08:36):
Yeah, plus, when you've already spent and
consumed so much time doingsomething, there's a part of you
is like well, I already spentall this time, so I might as
well finish and follow through,but then that stress is like but
is it going to be worth?
That stress is going to cost me.
Carmen Lezeth (08:53):
And you know what ?
I wrote the email to disengagefrom it.
You know what I mean?
I wrote the different emails.
They don't care, there's somany people that don't give a
shit.
But I wanted to be professionalor whatever, and the minute I
sent it I felt like a wholeother weight.
I was like, okay, okay, thatwas the correct thing to do.
Rick Costa (09:17):
And that tells you that that's the correct thing to
do.
Carmen Lezeth (09:20):
I know, but we still need money.
Cynthia Ruiz Lopez (09:22):
We will find it, we will find it, we will
find it, we will find it.
Oh really, someone out there islistening and we will find it.
You know what I mean, right.
Rick Costa (09:36):
I'm going to do a feel the streams.
No, feel the dreams.
If you stream it, they willcome.
Cynthia Ruiz Lopez (09:44):
They will come, come.
I love that so good I love it.
Carmen Lezeth (09:51):
Yeah, if you stream it.
Okay, rick rick, with thecreativity you've been holding
that for a while.
Huh, if you stream it, it willgo.
Yeah, I just there.
So many.
I guess I started getting alittle bit jealous because I'm
watching so many people who aremaking money as content creators
(10:14):
and they're horrible.
I'm not trying to say I'mfabulous.
Cynthia Ruiz Lopez (10:18):
I'm saying I'm at least as good as this
person.
Carmen Lezeth (10:23):
You know what I mean At least, but you have to.
I think being a content creatoris really really hard, and I'm
not sure that's what I want todo either, but I'm going to try
to do whatever I can so that wecan bring in some money.
You know what I mean.
But I'm just shook at how hardthings are sometimes and people
don't seem to realize thatbecause we don't talk about it.
(10:46):
Are there things that you guysdo that people don't realize how
hard it is for you to do?
I mean, you don't have to shareif you don't want to.
I mean, rick, you always talkabout your mom and that's fine,
we can talk about that.
I do think that's really hardand I always stop you, not
because I don't want you to talkabout it, but because sometimes
I don't want you to talk aboutit, but cause sometimes I I
don't want you to use yourmama's content.
You know what I mean, like, sothat's why I stopped you.
(11:07):
But are there things that youguys do that people don't know
that you struggle with and thatyou you know?
like I just told everyone I juststruggled with this and you
know people think everythingcomes easy to me or whatever,
and it doesn't nothing does Goahead.
Cynthia, cynthia, I felt.
Cynthia Ruiz Lopez (11:23):
Getting up every day to go to work.
Carmen Lezeth (11:27):
That's your struggle.
Cynthia Ruiz Lopez (11:28):
That is my struggle.
Rick Costa (11:31):
Nine to five grind.
Carmen Lezeth (11:33):
Wow, are you really hating work this much now
?
Cynthia Ruiz Lopez (11:37):
No, it's not .
It's not.
I don't hate.
I don't hate the job.
I wish management was better,but I don't hate the job.
Do you think you've been therelong enough now to make a
determination?
This is better than the lastone.
They both have theirdifferences.
Carmen Lezeth (11:57):
Yeah, exactly, really you couldn't wait to
leave the other place.
Cynthia Ruiz Lopez (12:06):
Yeah, no, and again, it was because of
management was the reason why Ileft, and if it wasn't because
of that I still would be therebecause I absolutely loved what
I was doing.
I had fun, you know, I enjoyedgoing every day, you know, and
stuff like that, like I wouldwork later or come in earlier if
need be, or just because andthis job it has, it has its
moments and definitely has prosand cons.
It's different.
Rick Costa (12:28):
You need to be the manager.
Cynthia Ruiz Lopez (12:30):
Yeah, maybe Would you want to be the manager
.
Probably not in healthcare.
Are you done with healthcare?
I think so Honestly.
Today I said I need a career,not a job right now.
There's a big difference.
A career is something youabsolutely love, it's something
(12:54):
you worked hard for.
A job is a job.
A job pays your bills.
You may not love it, you maylike it here and there, but it's
not what you want to do.
I don't want.
You may like it here and there,but it's not what you want to
do.
Carmen Lezeth (13:06):
So I don't want to go off of this, so I just get
you to second.
What would you want to do?
Career wise.
Cynthia Ruiz Lopez (13:16):
I mean like, like we've talked about before,
I do want to still work withdead bodies, you know, still
want to work with autopsies andthings like that Cause.
That, to me, is interesting.
Carmen Lezeth (13:30):
You know what I thought she was going to be like
.
I really do want to make mycards.
You know I was thinking aboutmy arts and crafts.
So you still want to move nowfrom pathology to dead people?
Cynthia Ruiz Lopez (13:42):
Well it's still in the same in the same
field, but honestly, like if itwasn't medical, I would want to
like do either party planning orthat, because that was my
absolute like goal in thebeginning was party planning.
So, yeah, I know two totallydifferent things.
Rick Costa (14:01):
I know what if the voice of God came down and said
you will prosper tremendously ifyou do your card business.
Would you be like, okay, I'mgoing to drop everything and do
that?
Carmen Lezeth (14:14):
What if she wants to do party planning?
Cynthia Ruiz Lopez (14:18):
Just her hobby, the cards, yeah the cards
, party planning yeah, I'd do it.
Rick Costa (14:24):
Any kind of party, wedding party.
Cynthia Ruiz Lopez (14:26):
Any kind.
Rick Costa (14:29):
Wedding planner.
Is that same?
No, totally different.
Cynthia Ruiz Lopez (14:32):
Yeah, yeah.
Rick Costa (14:34):
Because don't they make a pretty decent amount?
Cynthia Ruiz Lopez (14:36):
Yeah, and weddings are expensive.
So, yeah, you definitely makesome money from that.
Rick Costa (14:43):
You better not screw it up.
Carmen Lezeth (14:45):
Right, exactly, I screw it up, right exactly.
I'm shooketh, I'm shooketh.
You haven't even been there ayear yet.
No, it's been a year, it's beena year On the 1st it was a year
.
Oh, July 1st.
Okay, cool, Rick.
What about you?
Rick Costa (15:02):
Hmm, you know it's interesting because when I told
y'all I started getting intothis AI music creation, that
kind of got me excited.
I'm like, hmm, I wonder ifthat's know my thing, maybe
something music wise.
You know, I've written songs,I've sang songs, I've recorded
songs.
Now this got me excited again.
(15:23):
So I'm like, could that be whatI'm supposed to be doing, you
know, as well as helping peopleand stuff, and you know I mean
blah, blah, blah helping peopleblah blah, Even though I don't
have.
I never went to school for that,but people could call me that.
Carmen Lezeth (15:39):
So Okay, but there's again, that's like her
car, is like your hobby.
I mean, you know what?
I mean Like I don't mean thatin a mean way.
I feel like that's just a partof who you are.
You're gonna, you're going todo that anyways.
You know, you think you'd wantto get back into the music
business.
Rick Costa (15:54):
I mean, I was never in the business, it was just.
Carmen Lezeth (15:56):
Why not?
It sounds like you're in thebusiness now.
Rick Costa (16:00):
It's a possibility I could.
Even my bestie was like whydon't you put your stuff on
Spotify?
You could make some money.
Carmen Lezeth (16:08):
Why not?
Everybody else is doing it.
Rick Costa (16:10):
Right.
Carmen Lezeth (16:12):
You never know, why are you not doing it?
Rick Costa (16:18):
I'm constantly tired .
I have so many things that Iwant to do, and then I get all
excited I'm gonna do this, I'mgonna do that, and then I'm like
okay, I'm mentally exhausted,I'm physically exhausted.
Carmen Lezeth (16:30):
It's like okay, but you know it would be passive
income.
You've already created the songright, the first song.
You've already created it.
You've already done it right,you sang it on your phone.
Rick Costa (16:40):
I have actual songs, not AI songs too, so recorded.
Carmen Lezeth (16:44):
Okay, but you know, okay, I have this podcast
right, we have All About the Joy.
I started another one, carmenTalk, real quick.
You would be like it doesn't?
It's not like you have to goanywhere.
It's not like you have to goanywhere.
It's just really easy to putyour music on Spotify.
If it's done, you want me tosend you a link how to do it.
I'm just saying it could bepassive income.
Cynthia Ruiz Lopez (17:06):
Hey, like you said to me, if God came down
and said your mom is taken careof, everything else is taken
care of, what would you do?
Rick Costa (17:13):
Exactly.
If I got a guarantee, thenwatch out.
Rick's going to care of whatwould you do Exactly?
Carmen Lezeth (17:18):
If I got a guarantee, then watch out, Boo
out, the way Rick's going to belike Carmen.
I can't be on All About the Joyanymore.
Cynthia Ruiz Lopez (17:23):
You know I'm , my song is number one.
Carmen Lezeth (17:25):
I know I'm very busy.
My song is number one right nowin the religious charts and
blah, blah, blah.
I'm going to be going here andthere and I'm just too busy for
all about the joy.
How are you doing?
Did you get that?
Grant you doing okay?
Rick Costa (17:43):
Remember, I'm very loyal.
Carmen Lezeth (17:45):
Yeah, you're very loyal.
You're very loyal, so okay.
So when it comes to reputation,would you be afraid that?
Okay, for Rick, this is reallyinteresting.
Would you be afraid that if youtook that leap and really
interesting would you be afraidthat if you took that leap and
went on spotify and put yourmusic out there that maybe
nobody'd want to listen to it,would that bother you?
Would that?
Rick Costa (18:04):
would that change anything in my current life?
No, nothing changes.
If nothing changes, nothingchanges.
So would I be a little nothappy about it.
Be like oh well, but nothing islike.
I'm at a point in life whereonly the important things matter
.
Carmen Lezeth (18:23):
Well that's fair.
Rick Costa (18:25):
I just don't have time to deal with dreams and
what ifs and da da da.
I need to pay for groceries.
Carmen Lezeth (18:31):
I know, but I dream all the time.
I want to stop dreaming.
Cynthia Ruiz Lopez (18:38):
Not everybody likes to say music, so
I mean, oh yeah.
Carmen Lezeth (18:43):
I mean it's a religious music thing that he's
doing, so I'm not going tolisten to it.
I mean I support you 100%.
Rick Costa (18:50):
I made a little outro now because the outro that
I used to use it's literally onevery single video was like a
copyright free from youtube,blah, blah, blah.
And I'm like you know what I'veseen where they say copyright
free and then later they changetheir mind and then it's like
you got to take down everything.
I'm like this is on every video.
So I used ai and made my ownand it was just like a flamenco
guitar and everybody's like Ilove that song.
(19:12):
That's really cool.
Carmen Lezeth (19:12):
So the beats I don't know what you mean, what
are we talking about?
So at the end of my videos Ihave an outro.
Rick Costa (19:19):
I have like an outro video and it's just music.
It just shows differentpictures and music and I'm done.
Bye, everybody, love you, seeyou, bye.
And then the music plays andthen that's it.
That's the end and.
No, supposedly YouTube saysthis is free to use, copyright
free.
Carmen Lezeth (19:35):
Oh yeah, it is yeah.
Rick Costa (19:36):
So but I again, I've seen things that I've used,
things that they said were, andthen they, I guess, changed
their mind and then all of asudden, like copyright strike,
like Whoa, whoa, wait a minute.
So I was like you know what,let me make my own and not to
worry about that no more.
So I did and everybody's likeoh, that's a really cool song.
I like this song.
It's very, you know, peppy kindof spin.
Carmen Lezeth (19:55):
Okay, but when you say I'm going to, I'm going
to mess with you here.
When you say you made ityourself, you used a I who stole
it from a flamenco, whateverguitar player See what I'm
saying.
Rick Costa (20:12):
It creates it based on their database of all
different types.
Carmen Lezeth (20:14):
Rick is so into his AI shit he don't want to
embrace facts.
It is stealing.
This is look you know, I loveme my AI the problem with AI in
creation.
That's why I want you to becareful about what you're saying
too.
It is stealing from creators,from other people, and not
giving them credit, even thoughI know what you're saying.
(20:34):
But it's actually not.
It's not picking up a guitarand creating music for you.
It is learning from all thesedifferent resources and none of
those people are getting paidanything.
Rick Costa (20:47):
Right but the actual , just like using this as an
example.
Is that exact song made thatsomebody else made and it just
said I'm going to steal it?
Carmen Lezeth (20:56):
I'm sorry, what what?
Rick Costa (20:57):
the exact song that it created.
That's literally somebody'ssong that somebody made, and
they just said, oh, I'm gonnaswipe it from there and say it's
ai.
Now, like I think it's stillcreated, unique by ai, but
influenced by but ai is not ahuman being to create anything.
Carmen Lezeth (21:13):
Ai will tell you itself that it can't create any
like.
It's not, it's not sentient, itcan't create something.
So what it does is it takesstuff and then it mashes it
together to create something.
We all do that, by the way.
That's what we all do.
You know what I mean?
Right, right, right.
But what I'm saying is is you'reworried about, so, let's say,
(21:34):
cynthia wrote a song, she hummeda song or whatever, and she
recorded it and she put it.
And then she said this is freefor anybody to use.
And she said that it's royaltyfree, whatever, because she just
wants people to know thatCynthia is a a great musician,
hummer, person, right, becausethat's what a lot of people do,
who give their music for free,because what they want is to
(21:56):
have it used, and then maybesomebody will make it big, and
then they'll you know what Imean.
Like that's why I give themcredit in the show notes or
whatever that I think when theymake it big.
But I'm just saying but what AIdoes is AI is like oh, I'll go
into AI and say can you, I wanta piece of poetry that talks
about what it's like to makecards and work in a pathology
(22:17):
lab.
Can you get me any informationon that?
So AI goes and looks and islike oh, here is Cynthia.
Cynthia works in a pathologylab, she's a creative person and
she wrote a song and I'm goingto extract things and then I'm
going to add it from Bob overhere, and now I'm going to add
it from Bob over here and I'mgoing to, and now I'm going to
create something else.
The problem is, nobody isgiving Cynthia or Bob or anybody
(22:42):
else credit, nowhere.
Co-pilot chat, gbt, gemini Noneof them are saying you know
what, cynthia?
We use your stuff to learn, sowe want to give you some money
or want to at least give youcredit.
I'm just saying I think itwould be.
This is just how I'm feelingabout it, because I'm trying as
a person who actually writes andcreates stuff that has nothing
(23:05):
to do with AI.
Even I know it went and took mybook.
It can easily go and take mybook.
I've asked it and it is yes,carmen wrote a.
It says Carmen Lisette wrote areally good book, and here's
what it's all about.
And I'm like motherfucker, youknow what I mean.
I read the whole book in like aminute or whatever, and it
(23:26):
gives you a whole summary and ittells you all about it and it
decides how good or bad it is,or whatever.
And I'm like did it create thatsummary all in it?
No, it went and looked atAmazon and took other you
whatever.
And I'm like did it create thatsummary all in it?
No, it went and looked at onAmazon and took other.
You see what I'm saying?
It went and took other people'sstuff.
It actually didn't figure it outon its own, whether it liked it
or not.
It's not actually human, youknow.
(23:47):
I'm just saying the better wayis to just look at it as that.
Like when you just said thatyou're creating this Flamingo
music or Flamingo Flamenco music, you're not.
You know what I mean.
Like you're using AI, becauseunless you picked up a guitar
(24:07):
and started doing it you seewhat I just.
I just think it's fair to saythat you're using AI and to just
be on Cause I think that's howyou're going to safeguard
yourself in the future.
Like when I did my business plan, I credited Copilot as helping
me edit it.
You know what I mean.
Like I'm not going to mess withthat.
I didn't have it write it forme.
(24:29):
But I did write stuff and thenhave it go in and fix grammatic,
whatever, so it sounded moreprofessional, whatever.
So I, you, so I wrote that itwas also AI helped edit this,
whatever.
I didn't write it that way.
I actually asked Copilot how towrite that.
It's like a little thing at thebottom.
But I'm not trying to push youdown.
I do think with AI it's going tobe really difficult.
(24:51):
And how do you safeguard yourreputation so you don't look
like you're cheating?
That's what I keep thinkingabout.
Like I don't want anyone totell me that I'm cheating.
In the same respects, I feellike AI is leveling the playing
field because I don't have aneditor.
I've never had somebody whocould help me.
(25:11):
I've never had an assistant whocan help me with all the
different things I need helpwith.
You know what I mean.
So again, I think you shoulduse AI.
I love AI, I'm a fan.
I just think if you're going todo it and you're worried about
actual people who have told youthat it's royalty free or
(25:33):
whatever, I would be morecareful that people will
question if you're actuallycreating something when actually
all you're doing is promptingit.
Rick Costa (25:41):
Right, you're prompting it to do something and
then it's creating it, rightit's a tough one I've not shied
away from saying, and when I didfirst tell people, oh, we got a
new intro or outro, and I usedAI like I didn't shy from that,
I said it, you know.
Carmen Lezeth (25:57):
Right, I'll say this like Joel.
You guys know Joel Joel sent mea thing, because he's going to
help me direct my film, that Iwant to do my short Again out of
the 95 things I'm going to doin the next year.
But anyway, it's just a thought.
But he sent me an AI thingwhere basically, you prompt it
(26:17):
and it does the movie.
And I was like, well, you know,I text him back.
I'm like, well, I guess I won'tbe needing you then, so you're
off the hook for being thedirector.
And he was like I'm directingthis film and I'm like I don't
understand the concept.
I don't understand the concept,I don't understand what this is
.
But I was just like I'm goingto leave it alone.
But how do you direct a film ifI'm just going to input, like
(26:40):
if I go into that prompt right,and it's a I think it's Google
that's created this new you'veseen this right when you just go
in and prompt it.
So if I go in and say I coulddirect it because I know what I
want, you know what I mean, butis that really me directing?
(27:04):
He seems to think he still needsto direct.
I'm like, bitch, I can promptthe shit myself.
I don't need you now.
Does that mean I'm StevenSpielberg?
I don't need you now.
Does that mean I'm StevenSpielberg?
I don't think so.
We're in an interesting place.
You know what I mean, and Idon't even know if I want to do
it that way.
I think what's going to happenis because of AI and so much
(27:25):
technology.
I think people are going towant the real stuff.
Yeah, yeah.
Rick Costa (27:31):
What if we have a huge shift to everything,
becomes so much AI and peoplestart to say you know what?
There's some, I know it seemsreally real, but I missed the
real.
Carmen Lezeth (27:44):
I think the thing about AI whenever we watch it
like when I watched Star Treknext generation you know they're
in space, they can't go to thebeach and so to keep the crew
sane, it makes sense thatthere's this computer and the
holodeck and this ability tocreate things so that you can
try to take a walk on the beachor whatever it is, or get help
(28:07):
and assistance and whatever.
So that makes sense.
But I think what's going tohappen I think I'm already kind
of seeing it is that people aregoing to be craving to be in
situations where they'reactually in real life again.
I don't think that's a badthing.
I think that's an actual goodthing.
Look at even Sinners, the movieSinners.
God, we're all over the placewith this show today.
(28:28):
Show today Ryan Coogler.
He went back old school filmingthat.
Right, you saw all thebackground on that.
He went back with old schoolfilm and shit.
I don't even know what it allmeans, but I was intrigued when
he could have just easily usedwhatever the digitized version
(28:49):
of it all is.
Rick Costa (28:51):
Giving old music, bringing old music into it, yeah
, so I think, it's going tobring about it.
Cynthia Ruiz Lopez (28:56):
New is not always better.
Carmen Lezeth (29:00):
Interesting.
Or maybe it's technology is notalways better.
That too, yeah, I think AI hasa bad reputation.
Cynthia Ruiz Lopez (29:10):
I mean, think about it, the movie Hidden
Figures like she was a geniusin math and they're trying to
use all this new math and whatended up happening?
She went back to the old mathto find these figures, to get
this man to land correctly.
So, like I said, new is notalways better.
Sometimes you have to go back.
Carmen Lezeth (29:33):
Yeah, and how do we bring this back to reputation
?
How do you bring it back?
Yeah, no, no, I do.
I do think AI has a badreputation.
That's an easy segue.
Actually, you know, I love AI.
I think it's going to be usedmore as a tool, but then there
are people who are just scaringthe hell out of everybody,
saying that it's going to beworse.
(29:54):
So I don't know, I don't knowhow to end this segment.
You guys don't make this easyfor me.
Rick Costa (29:59):
A lot of this always happens in the Christian world.
Whenever something new comesout, oh, this is going to be the
Antichrist, this is going to bea tool of the Antichrist.
So now it's AI that's going tobe the tool of the Antichrist.
I'm so tired of y'all.
Everything new is theAntichrist.
Carmen Lezeth (30:17):
What does the Antichrist mean for those of us
who are not Christians oratheists or whatever?
Listening to the show.
Rick Costa (30:23):
He's going to be like a world leader that rises
up and seemingly brings peace toall the world, but then all of
a sudden he's going to be likepsych and cause complete havoc
and try to kill everybody.
The devil.
Cynthia Ruiz Lopez (30:36):
Basically Sort of yeah.
Carmen Lezeth (30:39):
If your reputation was wiped clean
tomorrow, what would you dodifferently?
Rick Costa (30:47):
I don't think I'd do anything differently.
Cynthia Ruiz Lopez (30:50):
Yeah.
Rick Costa (30:51):
I is who I is and always will be.
Carmen Lezeth (30:56):
I don't know if I would do anything differently.
I mean, I think if you liveauthentically and you do the
best you can every day, that'sall you got.
I don't have any majorskeletons in my closet that I
would want to go back and fix orchange.
No, I'm being serious Like Idon't know of any.
You know, like some people havesome bad stuff.
It ruins their reputation.
I did background checks onYouTube so I know no, I'm just
(31:20):
kidding Whose opinion actuallymatters to you and why?
My husband and my kids.
That's it.
My opinion doesn't matter ofyou, Eh?
No, your husband and your kids.
Cynthia Ruiz Lopez (31:37):
Okay, rick.
Rick Costa (31:39):
Ultimately sorry to say.
God, not sorry to say, but howdid you say that?
No, I know.
Carmen Lezeth (31:48):
This isn't an atheist podcast.
You can never mention God.
Rick Costa (31:54):
I'm all about the joy Ever you ask me how I feel I
got to tell you the truth.
And then, other than that, myfamily and close friends, other
than that, again, y'all don'tpay my bills, so I don't care
what you think about me.
Really, I mean, I want you tothink nice things.
Carmen Lezeth (32:08):
You know what I care.
I care about my reputation.
I do, I know I know.
Like I mean I don't care if youdon't like me, but I care that
the reason why you don't like meis because I'm being my
authentic self and you can'thandle it.
Do you know what I mean?
Like I, does that make sense?
Like I know we're not supposed,like it's so funny, right, and
(32:29):
I'm not saying you guys, buteveryone does that.
I don't care what people thinkabout me and then they're
talking about it for 25 minutes,but what she did, let me tell
you.
I'm like, if you care, wewouldn't be having this
conversation.
You know, Like I care whatpeople think of me and I think
it doesn't bother me if peopledon't like me, if the reason why
(32:55):
they don't like me is becausethey don't understand or they're
being ridiculous.
You know what I mean.
If I do somethingunintentionally and I hurt
someone that matters to me.
You know what I mean.
I do care if I hurt somebody orI do something unintentionally,
so I do care what other peoplethink.
You know what I mean.
Like I do care if I hurtsomebody or I do something
unintentionally, that, so I docare what other people think you
know what I mean.
(33:16):
I think there's a lot of thesethings in our heads that we've
come to believe and I don'tthink it's actually true.
It sounds nice, but I don'tthink it's actually true.
I think we all care.
We're social beings.
Cynthia Ruiz Lopez (33:28):
Yeah, as we just say, like I told you, it
was a year that I started my joband what I did was I actually
emailed two of the doctors Iwork with and I said you know,
it's been a year since I startedand I wanted to get your
feedback on my work.
You know?
No, they were actually reallygood they both said I'm doing a
(33:49):
great job and and so I mean, ina way, you know, even though you
say you may not care, somepeople may say that they don't
care.
They do care you know whetherthey're doing a good job.
You know with work or at home,or with their friends, people do
care.
Carmen Lezeth (34:03):
Yeah, I think when we talk about not caring
what people think, it's actuallybeen morphed into something
different.
I think what we mean is peoplewho don't matter to us, people
who are people we don't want inour lives or, like you said,
people who don't pay my billsOkay, those people who don't
care about.
But in the big scheme of things, like especially if you watch
(34:25):
people on Tik TOK, like big timecreators who then make one
mistake and everyone's hating onthem or whatever you know what
I mean, like and I you know, Idon't know what some of these
people do, but I'm like well,they did, they made one mistake
and they hate them forever andthen the then the creator has a
choice.
They can either apologize or,you know, own the mistake and
(34:49):
move on, or they can stand inthe bullshittery and make it so
much worse.
Do you guys know, own themistake and move on, or they can
stand in the bullshittery andmake it so much worse.
Do you guys know who the hatlady is?
Okay, the hat lady, she's cubanand she had a huge following.
I mean, she still has a hugefollowing, especially compared
to me.
I have nobody.
I love the people who follow me.
I'm just saying like, um, butshe came across as somebody who
(35:12):
really cared about, you know,latinos and everything that's
happening, especially withpolitics that's going on, and
you know a lot of these ICEabduction things that are
happening with so many migrantsand immigrants and whatever.
I'm totally going to mess upthe story a little bit, but the
gist is still important.
So I don't going to mess up thestory a little bit, but the
gist is still important.
(35:32):
So I don't mean to lie.
She was talking about how ICEraided a massage parlor and the
massage parlor, clearly forpeople on the audio, has happy
endings.
Let's just put it that way.
Everyone knows what that means.
Okay, the massage parlor wasfull of Asian women and all of
these women got taken by ice orwhatever.
(35:53):
And this Latina woman who seemsto be an advocate and whatever
and seems to be, you know,against ice or whatever, was
laughing about that and saying,well, that's good, that place
should be shut down because it'sit's not a really good massage
parlor.
You know what kind of massageand those women needed to be,
and she went on a tangent aboutit and I remember watching it
(36:14):
being like what is wrong withthis woman?
Anyway, long story short.
She's gotten so much from otherbig creators as well, backlash
from the whole thing because herwhole reputation has just been
shot, not because she made themistake right.
She made a mistake.
What she didn't realize andwhat other, especially Asian,
(36:36):
big time creators were tellingher is a lot of those women are
sex trafficked into this countryand they have to pay off their
bill before they're let go totry to get a job in the United
States, and they are goingthrough the same thing that
these other immigrants are goingthrough here in this country.
And you chose a lot of them.
(36:57):
So do you think she was like ohmy God, I made a mistake.
I know she fucking doubled down.
She doubled down and then shestarted going after the big time
creators who pointed this shitout to her.
So now everyone me too I did avideo this morning and I
(37:18):
couldn't take it in my mouth,but it's this kind of thing,
like she just ruined herreputation and now what I
realize is that maybe who Ithought she was all along was
not really true.
Because that's what happens whenyou mess with your reputation.
Right Like now I realize, likewait a minute, I was supporting
her, and I don't meanfinancially, but I was, you know
(37:40):
, watching her, I was followingher, whatever.
And now I realize she wasalways anti everyone else except
her people.
No, no, I'm, I'm not only antieveryone who hurts people who
are Black and Latina.
You know what I mean.
They must be that mix.
No, I am anti anyone hurtinganyone else.
(38:05):
Period, Yep With a T.
You know what I mean.
So she ruined her reputation.
She lost so many fun.
She lost me like within aminute.
I couldn't believe what I was.
I was like she did not just saythat and I went back and
checked Is this the?
Maybe I'm following the wrongperson?
Let me just see.
Rick Costa (38:25):
I think I saw something too with a girl that
she also just totally ruined herreputation, also just totally
ruined her reputation.
You probably heard about thiswhere she this she convinced
this little older woman who wasa little bit mentally impaired
to go into the ocean and shesaid I'll give you 20 if you
jump into the ocean not evenknowing if she could swim or not
, and she couldn't.
And then they're like oh that'sa big time tick tocker right
(38:49):
she must be, and then she had.
She went to some place to likesay hi to the fans, and nobody
showed up yeah, yeah, that's I.
Carmen Lezeth (38:56):
I don't know her name, but that that's a really
big deal because she used herplatform and then abused it.
Yeah, because the woman couldhave died yeah, wow, it was
really, really bad.
I don't and that that to me.
Here's the thing the hat ladywoman, she's older like, she's
(39:18):
older than I am Like, and I'mlike I don't think you were an
adult, you should know better.
Like even in your initial like,cause I watched her say it, it
wasn't like I you know what Imean.
Like I watched her say thisthing and I remember being like
what is wrong with this woman?
Like, does she not know thatthese women now have been caged
somewhere?
Like, what are you doing?
And and like just to one more,one more thing that pissed me
(39:42):
off, cause I just have to saythis I don't know why people get
mad at quote, unquote, let'sjust say prostitutes or women of
the night or whatever.
How come you don't get mad atthe johns or the like that's who
just gets me so angry?
You know what I mean.
Like you get mad at the wrongpeople.
Why are you getting mad at thevictims who are trying to make a
(40:03):
living and shouldn't, in thisfucking country, have to be
doing this kind of work anyway?
Okay, that, let me just.
Let me just back up.
Yes, that content creator who Idon't know what her name is.
I don't follow her, but I sawthat no one showed up and she
had like a greet and meetbecause she was trying to
re-establish herself againbecause she had made this huge
(40:23):
mistake and did what she did andnobody showed up.
But then I thought it was alsobad that people went in there
and were like take you knowshowing, ha ha, take you know
showing video of no one showingup.
I'm like okay, because nowyou're getting clicks and money
for making fun of somebody who'sclearly hurting.
No matter what someone does, ifyou're really a good person,
(40:44):
it's not that you wish ill willon them.
You wish for them to learn alesson and move forward, but you
don't then turn around and makemoney off of them.
But everybody's always makingmoney off of somebody.
I saw that though.
Yeah, okay, the only opinionthat matters to me is all of my
audience.
No, I'm just kidding, we got toclose out with that.
(41:08):
Yeah, no, I think opinions ofother people matter to us
because we're social beings.
I don't think there's anythingwrong with that.
Yeah, no, I think opinions ofother people matter to us
because we're social beings.
I don't think there's anythingwrong with that.
But, like Rick said, if theyain't paying the bills, you
don't need to cry about it, youknow.
But, okay, well, thank you forthat, guys.
That was an all over the placejoyful Sunday conversation.
(41:32):
That started with reputationand I guess we'll end with
reputation and Cynthia, thankyou, you're going to find us
some money Very excited, leavingthat.
Now I just need.
I'm looking for $80,000.
Rick Costa (41:44):
So if you could do that, all I got to do is write a
hit song, and then we're goodto go.
Carmen Lezeth (41:51):
Rick you can just go and put a little note that
AI helped you, what credits doand you know what.
Can I just finalize somethingwith that?
Everybody is struggling withthis and I'm not saying that my
opinion is the right one.
I'm just saying everybody isstruggling with this right now.
I'm just saying this wholething like are you actually
(42:13):
creating something if you'reusing AI?
I don't know.
Right, I say no, but you know,I don't know, I don't know, I
don't know If somebody's editingyour guitar, making that's
different.
Rick Costa (42:27):
Yeah, I have to turn it over with the actual songs
that I'm doing, and the last oneI did I wrote the lyrics myself
, so at least I can say thatmuch.
Carmen Lezeth (42:36):
This is my song.
No, that's for sure.
I think that's for sure, that'sfor sure.
Rick Costa (42:40):
And it was a song about grief and I sent it to
certain people that I know arein it and they were like that
was so beautiful and, yes, Icried.
I was like I just want to see agood song so beautiful.
Are you going to sing it for?
Carmen Lezeth (42:54):
us?
No, all right.
Well, everyone, thank you somuch.
Remember we're here on Fridaynights at 6 pm Pacific, 9 pm
Eastern, always here on Sundays.
We're so grateful for you tojoin us at 12 pm Pacific, 3 pm
Eastern.
My brain is not working.
Have a great rest of your weekand remember, at the end of the
(43:17):
day, it really is all about thejoy, all about the joy.
Cynthia Ruiz Lopez (43:19):
Bye, everybody, bye.
Carmen Lezeth (43:23):
Thanks for stopping by.
All About the Joy Be better andstay beautiful.
Folks have a sweet day.
wow, hi everyone, welcome to all about the
private lounge.
We are, uh always, alwayslearning and enjoying the
technicalities of restream, soshout out to restream that I pay
so much money for.
Yeah, woo, I am not advocatingyou get Restream, but I'm not
(00:29):
saying you shouldn't.
It's all a thing.
Rick Costa (00:31):
So Rick Costas in the house.
Carmen Lezeth (00:34):
Hi Hi, rick, how you doing what's up.
Rick Costa (00:36):
What's up?
Carmen Lezeth (00:37):
Cynthia Lopez Ruiz Ruiz Lopez Lopez.
Oh Jess, cynthia, I'm just over.
Hi, cynthia, how you doing?
Hey, last week's episode was sogreat, so those of you who
didn't catch the Private Loungelast week please check it out.
It's so good with Dr Means andwe got some decent hits and so
I'm really excited about it.
(00:57):
But really inspiring woman.
So I just wanted to make sureFor those of you who needed a
little inspiration, she's theright person to go check out.
You guys checked it out right.
Well, cynthia, you were on theshow, but Rick, were you able to
watch it at all?
You were on the show On Sunday.
I was watching oh you were onon Sunday, that's right.
I'm so sorry.
Rick Costa (01:16):
I'm so sorry, I'm on the show.
Carmen Lezeth (01:18):
Look it, it's been a week.
Okay, but yeah, so first let'sstart with.
What do you think about yourreputation?
Does it matter to you whatothers think about you or what
other organizations think aboutyou?
Or do you go into a bank everand try to apply for a loan and
not get one, and does that makeyou feel bad?
Cynthia Ruiz Lopez (01:39):
I think rejection makes anyone feel bad,
regardless of what it is.
Is it makes anyone feel badregardless of what it is, but I
don't think I've ever had to doanything like that.
As far as reputation like mything is, I always want people
to know that I am a good person.
Like somebody talks crap aboutme like it may or may not be
true, you know, like Carmenalways says, I'm the mean one,
(02:02):
but there are times I can be.
I can be, I'm not going to lie.
Carmen Lezeth (02:06):
I'm just saying between you and me you're the
mean one, but everyone thinks Iam.
Cynthia Ruiz Lopez (02:18):
For the most part, my reputation is I have a
big heart and you know I docare about people and that is
true and it does make you feelgood and stuff.
So I don't know, I think itjust kind of depends on the
reputation whether it matters ornot.
Carmen Lezeth (02:28):
But wait, I think it's interesting.
So you think your reputation isis what again?
Cynthia Ruiz Lopez (02:32):
What was that again that I have a big
heart and that I do care aboutpeople.
Carmen Lezeth (02:36):
Big car- no, I'm just kidding Big heart.
What else?
Sorry, you gotta read what andwhat else, and that I care about
people.
It's true.
What's your reputation?
What do you think yourreputation is?
Rick Costa (02:56):
I think the biggest thing is can you be dependent
upon?
If can you be dependent upon,are you a man or a woman of your
word?
Do people think of you astruthful or yeah?
Carmen Lezeth (03:08):
wait, but what's your reputation?
Rick Costa (03:11):
what is my reputation?
Carmen Lezeth (03:12):
yeah, what do you think it is?
Rick Costa (03:17):
family oriented, clearly, because I'm taking care
of my mom, which which is veryhard.
Super loyal and faithful to theend.
Same job for over 20 years.
Even though I get treated likecrap, like loyal and through no
matter what thick and thin, I'mthere, I'm sticking with you,
(03:38):
hello.
Would you guys have been herethe whole time?
Even when it's super hard, Imake a way.
I find a way to go out and comeout even if it's super hard, I
make a way.
Cynthia Ruiz Lopez (03:51):
I find a way to go out and come out, even if
it's going through htw hockeysticks.
But yeah, cynthia, what did?
Carmen Lezeth (03:53):
you say, when you just oh, I said, and he's
religious, you know, oh yeah,religious, yeah, I'm like, and
what that's actually somethingthat was when I first started
getting religious was?
Rick Costa (04:04):
it talks about reputation quite a bit in the
Bible actually.
So that was pounded into mybrain of like make it so easy
that people will talk bad aboutyou.
Live in such a way that nobodycan say anything bad about you.
Carmen Lezeth (04:17):
But is that really possible?
I mean in such a way thatnobody can say anything bad
about you.
Try.
Cynthia Ruiz Lopez (04:24):
You can try, but the haters are still going
to hate.
I think that says more aboutthem than it does about you.
Yeah.
Carmen Lezeth (04:33):
That's interesting.
I don't know.
I just, yeah, I don't want toget into it so what about you,
carmen?
I think I'm hard.
I think people think I'm prettyhard and mean Blunt Probably
blunt is a better word.
I think people think I might befunny, maybe a little bit too
sarcastic or something.
I think my reputation has moreof a negative.
(04:54):
I tend to look at the negativesides of what people think of me
, not the good stuff.
It's not that I don't care, Ido care.
But I think there's alsosomething about being strong and
I have conviction and I standon what I believe.
There are that part of it too.
I am absolutely loyal until youfuck up and then I'm not.
(05:19):
I will drop you quickly if Irealize you're not a good person
.
So I think I have really strictrules and it bothers some
people, but I think myreputation matters to me because
I've worked so hard to try tobe a good person.
It doesn't mean I always succeed.
Being a good person doesn'tmean you don't sometimes make
(05:41):
mistakes and fail.
You know what I mean.
Like you do, but can you own upto it?
Can you take the hit?
You know what I mean.
Can you get back up?
You know that's.
That's about integrity, that'sabout character, that's about
perseverance.
You know, and I think all ofthat is part of your reputation,
you know, and I think it doesmatter to me.
(06:03):
It matters to me a lot.
People are like it don't matter, I don't care what people think
.
I care what people thinkbecause I've worked very hard to
be who I am and I want you tothink before you come in my
space.
You know what I mean.
Like I don't want you to beconfused as to who we're going
to be if you're going to be inmy life, because I definitely
(06:24):
have boundaries and I definitelyhave um rules about being in my
life and some people don't likeit and that's okay, you know
it's I do and I don't, both atthe same time.
Rick Costa (06:37):
I would like people to think well of me, but if you
don't, you don't pay my bills.
Carmen Lezeth (06:45):
I think it would be weird to walk around life
thinking everybody thinks highlyof you or thinks great you know
, or like that you have a greatreputation, you know.
Somebody said it was about ego.
That my problem is is I havetoo much ego.
I'm like, okay, what do youwant me to do?
Cynthia Ruiz Lopez (07:03):
I don't know what that means.
I think they confuse ego withconfidence.
Yes.
Okay, what do you want me to do?
I don't know what that means.
I think they confuse ego withconfidence.
Yes.
Carmen Lezeth (07:08):
Okay, woo yes.
Rick Costa (07:11):
One of the first words you said was hard.
I would replace hard with firm.
Okay, it's a slight difference,but it's a difference.
Cynthia Ruiz Lopez (07:21):
It makes a difference.
Rick Costa (07:21):
Hard is almost like impenetrable where firm is.
I'm not backing down.
Yeah, that's fair.
That's fair, it makes adifference.
Carmen Lezeth (07:25):
It's almost like impenetrable where firm is.
I'm not backing down.
Yeah, that's fair.
That's fair, I'll take that.
Yeah, I think I don't know.
I think I made the decisionabout stepping away from the
grants and it made me a littlebit sad because I really think
that we have something worthy,or that I have something worthy
that needs funding.
Do you know what I mean?
(07:46):
But I had to make this decisionbecause, number one, it was
stressing me out.
It was so stressing me out andit was making me like do you
ever do something where you'rejust like you know you shouldn't
be doing it, but you're doingit?
But all your insides are likejust, and I always listened to
my instinct and I gave it a shot, know a shot.
Like I've been doing this forfour weeks and I'm like you know
(08:07):
what I'm done four weeks out ofthe 12 weeks.
I'm like I'm out.
At the beginning I was like, oh, okay, you have to do your
business health and you have tofill out all the paperwork and
you know you had to do all thesetime things.
I'm like, okay, well, that'scool, I can do that.
And I was getting up early orstaying up late or whatever it
(08:30):
was to do it and I was like,okay, this is fine, cause it's
putting me in the processgetting my business plan
together, blah, blah, blah.
But the next part?
I just was like this is wrong.
Rick Costa (08:36):
Yeah, plus, when you've already spent and
consumed so much time doingsomething, there's a part of you
is like well, I already spentall this time, so I might as
well finish and follow through,but then that stress is like but
is it going to be worth?
That stress is going to cost me.
Carmen Lezeth (08:53):
And you know what ?
I wrote the email to disengagefrom it.
You know what I mean?
I wrote the different emails.
They don't care, there's somany people that don't give a
shit.
But I wanted to be professionalor whatever, and the minute I
sent it I felt like a wholeother weight.
I was like, okay, okay, thatwas the correct thing to do.
Rick Costa (09:17):
And that tells you that that's the correct thing to
do.
Carmen Lezeth (09:20):
I know, but we still need money.
Cynthia Ruiz Lopez (09:22):
We will find it, we will find it, we will
find it, we will find it.
Oh really, someone out there islistening and we will find it.
You know what I mean, right.
Rick Costa (09:36):
I'm going to do a feel the streams.
No, feel the dreams.
If you stream it, they willcome.
Cynthia Ruiz Lopez (09:44):
They will come, come.
I love that so good I love it.
Carmen Lezeth (09:51):
Yeah, if you stream it.
Okay, rick rick, with thecreativity you've been holding
that for a while.
Huh, if you stream it, it willgo.
Yeah, I just there.
So many.
I guess I started getting alittle bit jealous because I'm
watching so many people who aremaking money as content creators
(10:14):
and they're horrible.
I'm not trying to say I'mfabulous.
Cynthia Ruiz Lopez (10:18):
I'm saying I'm at least as good as this
person.
Carmen Lezeth (10:23):
You know what I mean At least, but you have to.
I think being a content creatoris really really hard, and I'm
not sure that's what I want todo either, but I'm going to try
to do whatever I can so that wecan bring in some money.
You know what I mean.
But I'm just shook at how hardthings are sometimes and people
don't seem to realize thatbecause we don't talk about it.
(10:46):
Are there things that you guysdo that people don't realize how
hard it is for you to do?
I mean, you don't have to shareif you don't want to.
I mean, rick, you always talkabout your mom and that's fine,
we can talk about that.
I do think that's really hardand I always stop you, not
because I don't want you to talkabout it, but because sometimes
I don't want you to talk aboutit, but cause sometimes I I
don't want you to use yourmama's content.
You know what I mean, like, sothat's why I stopped you.
(11:07):
But are there things that youguys do that people don't know
that you struggle with and thatyou you know?
like I just told everyone I juststruggled with this and you
know people think everythingcomes easy to me or whatever,
and it doesn't nothing does Goahead.
Cynthia, cynthia, I felt.
Cynthia Ruiz Lopez (11:23):
Getting up every day to go to work.
Carmen Lezeth (11:27):
That's your struggle.
Cynthia Ruiz Lopez (11:28):
That is my struggle.
Rick Costa (11:31):
Nine to five grind.
Carmen Lezeth (11:33):
Wow, are you really hating work this much now
?
Cynthia Ruiz Lopez (11:37):
No, it's not .
It's not.
I don't hate.
I don't hate the job.
I wish management was better,but I don't hate the job.
Do you think you've been therelong enough now to make a
determination?
This is better than the lastone.
They both have theirdifferences.
Carmen Lezeth (11:57):
Yeah, exactly, really you couldn't wait to
leave the other place.
Cynthia Ruiz Lopez (12:06):
Yeah, no, and again, it was because of
management was the reason why Ileft, and if it wasn't because
of that I still would be therebecause I absolutely loved what
I was doing.
I had fun, you know, I enjoyedgoing every day, you know, and
stuff like that, like I wouldwork later or come in earlier if
need be, or just because andthis job it has, it has its
moments and definitely has prosand cons.
It's different.
Rick Costa (12:28):
You need to be the manager.
Cynthia Ruiz Lopez (12:30):
Yeah, maybe Would you want to be the manager
.
Probably not in healthcare.
Are you done with healthcare?
I think so Honestly.
Today I said I need a career,not a job right now.
There's a big difference.
A career is something youabsolutely love, it's something
(12:54):
you worked hard for.
A job is a job.
A job pays your bills.
You may not love it, you maylike it here and there, but it's
not what you want to do.
I don't want.
You may like it here and there,but it's not what you want to
do.
Carmen Lezeth (13:06):
So I don't want to go off of this, so I just get
you to second.
What would you want to do?
Career wise.
Cynthia Ruiz Lopez (13:16):
I mean like, like we've talked about before,
I do want to still work withdead bodies, you know, still
want to work with autopsies andthings like that Cause.
That, to me, is interesting.
Carmen Lezeth (13:30):
You know what I thought she was going to be like
.
I really do want to make mycards.
You know I was thinking aboutmy arts and crafts.
So you still want to move nowfrom pathology to dead people?
Cynthia Ruiz Lopez (13:42):
Well it's still in the same in the same
field, but honestly, like if itwasn't medical, I would want to
like do either party planning orthat, because that was my
absolute like goal in thebeginning was party planning.
So, yeah, I know two totallydifferent things.
Rick Costa (14:01):
I know what if the voice of God came down and said
you will prosper tremendously ifyou do your card business.
Would you be like, okay, I'mgoing to drop everything and do
that?
Carmen Lezeth (14:14):
What if she wants to do party planning?
Cynthia Ruiz Lopez (14:18):
Just her hobby, the cards, yeah the cards
, party planning yeah, I'd do it.
Rick Costa (14:24):
Any kind of party, wedding party.
Cynthia Ruiz Lopez (14:26):
Any kind.
Rick Costa (14:29):
Wedding planner.
Is that same?
No, totally different.
Cynthia Ruiz Lopez (14:32):
Yeah, yeah.
Rick Costa (14:34):
Because don't they make a pretty decent amount?
Cynthia Ruiz Lopez (14:36):
Yeah, and weddings are expensive.
So, yeah, you definitely makesome money from that.
Rick Costa (14:43):
You better not screw it up.
Carmen Lezeth (14:45):
Right, exactly, I screw it up, right exactly.
I'm shooketh, I'm shooketh.
You haven't even been there ayear yet.
No, it's been a year, it's beena year On the 1st it was a year
.
Oh, July 1st.
Okay, cool, Rick.
What about you?
Rick Costa (15:02):
Hmm, you know it's interesting because when I told
y'all I started getting intothis AI music creation, that
kind of got me excited.
I'm like, hmm, I wonder ifthat's know my thing, maybe
something music wise.
You know, I've written songs,I've sang songs, I've recorded
songs.
Now this got me excited again.
(15:23):
So I'm like, could that be whatI'm supposed to be doing, you
know, as well as helping peopleand stuff, and you know I mean
blah, blah, blah helping peopleblah blah, Even though I don't
have.
I never went to school for that,but people could call me that.
Carmen Lezeth (15:39):
So Okay, but there's again, that's like her
car, is like your hobby.
I mean, you know what?
I mean Like I don't mean thatin a mean way.
I feel like that's just a partof who you are.
You're gonna, you're going todo that anyways.
You know, you think you'd wantto get back into the music
business.
Rick Costa (15:54):
I mean, I was never in the business, it was just.
Carmen Lezeth (15:56):
Why not?
It sounds like you're in thebusiness now.
Rick Costa (16:00):
It's a possibility I could.
Even my bestie was like whydon't you put your stuff on
Spotify?
You could make some money.
Carmen Lezeth (16:08):
Why not?
Everybody else is doing it.
Rick Costa (16:10):
Right.
Carmen Lezeth (16:12):
You never know, why are you not doing it?
Rick Costa (16:18):
I'm constantly tired .
I have so many things that Iwant to do, and then I get all
excited I'm gonna do this, I'mgonna do that, and then I'm like
okay, I'm mentally exhausted,I'm physically exhausted.
Carmen Lezeth (16:30):
It's like okay, but you know it would be passive
income.
You've already created the songright, the first song.
You've already created it.
You've already done it right,you sang it on your phone.
Rick Costa (16:40):
I have actual songs, not AI songs too, so recorded.
Carmen Lezeth (16:44):
Okay, but you know, okay, I have this podcast
right, we have All About the Joy.
I started another one, carmenTalk, real quick.
You would be like it doesn't?
It's not like you have to goanywhere.
It's not like you have to goanywhere.
It's just really easy to putyour music on Spotify.
If it's done, you want me tosend you a link how to do it.
I'm just saying it could bepassive income.
Cynthia Ruiz Lopez (17:06):
Hey, like you said to me, if God came down
and said your mom is taken careof, everything else is taken
care of, what would you do?
Rick Costa (17:13):
Exactly.
If I got a guarantee, thenwatch out.
Rick's going to care of whatwould you do Exactly?
Carmen Lezeth (17:18):
If I got a guarantee, then watch out, Boo
out, the way Rick's going to belike Carmen.
I can't be on All About the Joyanymore.
Cynthia Ruiz Lopez (17:23):
You know I'm , my song is number one.
Carmen Lezeth (17:25):
I know I'm very busy.
My song is number one right nowin the religious charts and
blah, blah, blah.
I'm going to be going here andthere and I'm just too busy for
all about the joy.
How are you doing?
Did you get that?
Grant you doing okay?
Rick Costa (17:43):
Remember, I'm very loyal.
Carmen Lezeth (17:45):
Yeah, you're very loyal.
You're very loyal, so okay.
So when it comes to reputation,would you be afraid that?
Okay, for Rick, this is reallyinteresting.
Would you be afraid that if youtook that leap and really
interesting would you be afraidthat if you took that leap and
went on spotify and put yourmusic out there that maybe
nobody'd want to listen to it,would that bother you?
Would that?
Rick Costa (18:04):
would that change anything in my current life?
No, nothing changes.
If nothing changes, nothingchanges.
So would I be a little nothappy about it.
Be like oh well, but nothing islike.
I'm at a point in life whereonly the important things matter
.
Carmen Lezeth (18:23):
Well that's fair.
Rick Costa (18:25):
I just don't have time to deal with dreams and
what ifs and da da da.
I need to pay for groceries.
Carmen Lezeth (18:31):
I know, but I dream all the time.
I want to stop dreaming.
Cynthia Ruiz Lopez (18:38):
Not everybody likes to say music, so
I mean, oh yeah.
Carmen Lezeth (18:43):
I mean it's a religious music thing that he's
doing, so I'm not going tolisten to it.
I mean I support you 100%.
Rick Costa (18:50):
I made a little outro now because the outro that
I used to use it's literally onevery single video was like a
copyright free from youtube,blah, blah, blah.
And I'm like you know what I'veseen where they say copyright
free and then later they changetheir mind and then it's like
you got to take down everything.
I'm like this is on every video.
So I used ai and made my ownand it was just like a flamenco
guitar and everybody's like Ilove that song.
(19:12):
That's really cool.
Carmen Lezeth (19:12):
So the beats I don't know what you mean, what
are we talking about?
So at the end of my videos Ihave an outro.
Rick Costa (19:19):
I have like an outro video and it's just music.
It just shows differentpictures and music and I'm done.
Bye, everybody, love you, seeyou, bye.
And then the music plays andthen that's it.
That's the end and.
No, supposedly YouTube saysthis is free to use, copyright
free.
Carmen Lezeth (19:35):
Oh yeah, it is yeah.
Rick Costa (19:36):
So but I again, I've seen things that I've used,
things that they said were, andthen they, I guess, changed
their mind and then all of asudden, like copyright strike,
like Whoa, whoa, wait a minute.
So I was like you know what,let me make my own and not to
worry about that no more.
So I did and everybody's likeoh, that's a really cool song.
I like this song.
It's very, you know, peppy kindof spin.
Carmen Lezeth (19:55):
Okay, but when you say I'm going to, I'm going
to mess with you here.
When you say you made ityourself, you used a I who stole
it from a flamenco, whateverguitar player See what I'm
saying.
Rick Costa (20:12):
It creates it based on their database of all
different types.
Carmen Lezeth (20:14):
Rick is so into his AI shit he don't want to
embrace facts.
It is stealing.
This is look you know, I loveme my AI the problem with AI in
creation.
That's why I want you to becareful about what you're saying
too.
It is stealing from creators,from other people, and not
giving them credit, even thoughI know what you're saying.
(20:34):
But it's actually not.
It's not picking up a guitarand creating music for you.
It is learning from all thesedifferent resources and none of
those people are getting paidanything.
Rick Costa (20:47):
Right but the actual , just like using this as an
example.
Is that exact song made thatsomebody else made and it just
said I'm going to steal it?
Carmen Lezeth (20:56):
I'm sorry, what what?
Rick Costa (20:57):
the exact song that it created.
That's literally somebody'ssong that somebody made, and
they just said, oh, I'm gonnaswipe it from there and say it's
ai.
Now, like I think it's stillcreated, unique by ai, but
influenced by but ai is not ahuman being to create anything.
Carmen Lezeth (21:13):
Ai will tell you itself that it can't create any
like.
It's not, it's not sentient, itcan't create something.
So what it does is it takesstuff and then it mashes it
together to create something.
We all do that, by the way.
That's what we all do.
You know what I mean?
Right, right, right.
But what I'm saying is is you'reworried about, so, let's say,
(21:34):
cynthia wrote a song, she hummeda song or whatever, and she
recorded it and she put it.
And then she said this is freefor anybody to use.
And she said that it's royaltyfree, whatever, because she just
wants people to know thatCynthia is a a great musician,
hummer, person, right, becausethat's what a lot of people do,
who give their music for free,because what they want is to
(21:56):
have it used, and then maybesomebody will make it big, and
then they'll you know what Imean.
Like that's why I give themcredit in the show notes or
whatever that I think when theymake it big.
But I'm just saying but what AIdoes is AI is like oh, I'll go
into AI and say can you, I wanta piece of poetry that talks
about what it's like to makecards and work in a pathology
(22:17):
lab.
Can you get me any informationon that?
So AI goes and looks and islike oh, here is Cynthia.
Cynthia works in a pathologylab, she's a creative person and
she wrote a song and I'm goingto extract things and then I'm
going to add it from Bob overhere, and now I'm going to add
it from Bob over here and I'mgoing to, and now I'm going to
create something else.
The problem is, nobody isgiving Cynthia or Bob or anybody
(22:42):
else credit, nowhere.
Co-pilot chat, gbt, gemini Noneof them are saying you know
what, cynthia?
We use your stuff to learn, sowe want to give you some money
or want to at least give youcredit.
I'm just saying I think itwould be.
This is just how I'm feelingabout it, because I'm trying as
a person who actually writes andcreates stuff that has nothing
(23:05):
to do with AI.
Even I know it went and took mybook.
It can easily go and take mybook.
I've asked it and it is yes,carmen wrote a.
It says Carmen Lisette wrote areally good book, and here's
what it's all about.
And I'm like motherfucker, youknow what I mean.
I read the whole book in like aminute or whatever, and it
(23:26):
gives you a whole summary and ittells you all about it and it
decides how good or bad it is,or whatever.
And I'm like did it create thatsummary all in it?
No, it went and looked atAmazon and took other you
whatever.
And I'm like did it create thatsummary all in it?
No, it went and looked at onAmazon and took other.
You see what I'm saying?
It went and took other people'sstuff.
It actually didn't figure it outon its own, whether it liked it
or not.
It's not actually human, youknow.
(23:47):
I'm just saying the better wayis to just look at it as that.
Like when you just said thatyou're creating this Flamingo
music or Flamingo Flamenco music, you're not.
You know what I mean.
Like you're using AI, becauseunless you picked up a guitar
(24:07):
and started doing it you seewhat I just.
I just think it's fair to saythat you're using AI and to just
be on Cause I think that's howyou're going to safeguard
yourself in the future.
Like when I did my business plan, I credited Copilot as helping
me edit it.
You know what I mean.
Like I'm not going to mess withthat.
I didn't have it write it forme.
(24:29):
But I did write stuff and thenhave it go in and fix grammatic,
whatever, so it sounded moreprofessional, whatever.
So I, you, so I wrote that itwas also AI helped edit this,
whatever.
I didn't write it that way.
I actually asked Copilot how towrite that.
It's like a little thing at thebottom.
But I'm not trying to push youdown.
I do think with AI it's going tobe really difficult.
(24:51):
And how do you safeguard yourreputation so you don't look
like you're cheating?
That's what I keep thinkingabout.
Like I don't want anyone totell me that I'm cheating.
In the same respects, I feellike AI is leveling the playing
field because I don't have aneditor.
I've never had somebody whocould help me.
(25:11):
I've never had an assistant whocan help me with all the
different things I need helpwith.
You know what I mean.
So again, I think you shoulduse AI.
I love AI, I'm a fan.
I just think if you're going todo it and you're worried about
actual people who have told youthat it's royalty free or
(25:33):
whatever, I would be morecareful that people will
question if you're actuallycreating something when actually
all you're doing is promptingit.
Rick Costa (25:41):
Right, you're prompting it to do something and
then it's creating it, rightit's a tough one I've not shied
away from saying, and when I didfirst tell people, oh, we got a
new intro or outro, and I usedAI like I didn't shy from that,
I said it, you know.
Carmen Lezeth (25:57):
Right, I'll say this like Joel.
You guys know Joel Joel sent mea thing, because he's going to
help me direct my film, that Iwant to do my short Again out of
the 95 things I'm going to doin the next year.
But anyway, it's just a thought.
But he sent me an AI thingwhere basically, you prompt it
(26:17):
and it does the movie.
And I was like, well, you know,I text him back.
I'm like, well, I guess I won'tbe needing you then, so you're
off the hook for being thedirector.
And he was like I'm directingthis film and I'm like I don't
understand the concept.
I don't understand the concept,I don't understand what this is
.
But I was just like I'm goingto leave it alone.
But how do you direct a film ifI'm just going to input, like
(26:40):
if I go into that prompt right,and it's a I think it's Google
that's created this new you'veseen this right when you just go
in and prompt it.
So if I go in and say I coulddirect it because I know what I
want, you know what I mean, butis that really me directing?
(27:04):
He seems to think he still needsto direct.
I'm like, bitch, I can promptthe shit myself.
I don't need you now.
Does that mean I'm StevenSpielberg?
I don't need you now.
Does that mean I'm StevenSpielberg?
I don't think so.
We're in an interesting place.
You know what I mean, and Idon't even know if I want to do
it that way.
I think what's going to happenis because of AI and so much
(27:25):
technology.
I think people are going towant the real stuff.
Yeah, yeah.
Rick Costa (27:31):
What if we have a huge shift to everything,
becomes so much AI and peoplestart to say you know what?
There's some, I know it seemsreally real, but I missed the
real.
Carmen Lezeth (27:44):
I think the thing about AI whenever we watch it
like when I watched Star Treknext generation you know they're
in space, they can't go to thebeach and so to keep the crew
sane, it makes sense thatthere's this computer and the
holodeck and this ability tocreate things so that you can
try to take a walk on the beachor whatever it is, or get help
(28:07):
and assistance and whatever.
So that makes sense.
But I think what's going tohappen I think I'm already kind
of seeing it is that people aregoing to be craving to be in
situations where they'reactually in real life again.
I don't think that's a badthing.
I think that's an actual goodthing.
Look at even Sinners, the movieSinners.
God, we're all over the placewith this show today.
(28:28):
Show today Ryan Coogler.
He went back old school filmingthat.
Right, you saw all thebackground on that.
He went back with old schoolfilm and shit.
I don't even know what it allmeans, but I was intrigued when
he could have just easily usedwhatever the digitized version
(28:49):
of it all is.
Rick Costa (28:51):
Giving old music, bringing old music into it, yeah
, so I think, it's going tobring about it.
Cynthia Ruiz Lopez (28:56):
New is not always better.
Carmen Lezeth (29:00):
Interesting.
Or maybe it's technology is notalways better.
That too, yeah, I think AI hasa bad reputation.
Cynthia Ruiz Lopez (29:10):
I mean, think about it, the movie Hidden
Figures like she was a geniusin math and they're trying to
use all this new math and whatended up happening?
She went back to the old mathto find these figures, to get
this man to land correctly.
So, like I said, new is notalways better.
Sometimes you have to go back.
Carmen Lezeth (29:33):
Yeah, and how do we bring this back to reputation
?
How do you bring it back?
Yeah, no, no, I do.
I do think AI has a badreputation.
That's an easy segue.
Actually, you know, I love AI.
I think it's going to be usedmore as a tool, but then there
are people who are just scaringthe hell out of everybody,
saying that it's going to beworse.
(29:54):
So I don't know, I don't knowhow to end this segment.
You guys don't make this easyfor me.
Rick Costa (29:59):
A lot of this always happens in the Christian world.
Whenever something new comesout, oh, this is going to be the
Antichrist, this is going to bea tool of the Antichrist.
So now it's AI that's going tobe the tool of the Antichrist.
I'm so tired of y'all.
Everything new is theAntichrist.
Carmen Lezeth (30:17):
What does the Antichrist mean for those of us
who are not Christians oratheists or whatever?
Listening to the show.
Rick Costa (30:23):
He's going to be like a world leader that rises
up and seemingly brings peace toall the world, but then all of
a sudden he's going to be likepsych and cause complete havoc
and try to kill everybody.
The devil.
Cynthia Ruiz Lopez (30:36):
Basically Sort of yeah.
Carmen Lezeth (30:39):
If your reputation was wiped clean
tomorrow, what would you dodifferently?
Rick Costa (30:47):
I don't think I'd do anything differently.
Cynthia Ruiz Lopez (30:50):
Yeah.
Rick Costa (30:51):
I is who I is and always will be.
Carmen Lezeth (30:56):
I don't know if I would do anything differently.
I mean, I think if you liveauthentically and you do the
best you can every day, that'sall you got.
I don't have any majorskeletons in my closet that I
would want to go back and fix orchange.
No, I'm being serious Like Idon't know of any.
You know, like some people havesome bad stuff.
It ruins their reputation.
I did background checks onYouTube so I know no, I'm just
(31:20):
kidding Whose opinion actuallymatters to you and why?
My husband and my kids.
That's it.
My opinion doesn't matter ofyou, Eh?
No, your husband and your kids.
Cynthia Ruiz Lopez (31:37):
Okay, rick.
Rick Costa (31:39):
Ultimately sorry to say.
God, not sorry to say, but howdid you say that?
No, I know.
Carmen Lezeth (31:48):
This isn't an atheist podcast.
You can never mention God.
Rick Costa (31:54):
I'm all about the joy Ever you ask me how I feel I
got to tell you the truth.
And then, other than that, myfamily and close friends, other
than that, again, y'all don'tpay my bills, so I don't care
what you think about me.
Really, I mean, I want you tothink nice things.
Carmen Lezeth (32:08):
You know what I care.
I care about my reputation.
I do, I know I know.
Like I mean I don't care if youdon't like me, but I care that
the reason why you don't like meis because I'm being my
authentic self and you can'thandle it.
Do you know what I mean?
Like I, does that make sense?
Like I know we're not supposed,like it's so funny, right, and
(32:29):
I'm not saying you guys, buteveryone does that.
I don't care what people thinkabout me and then they're
talking about it for 25 minutes,but what she did, let me tell
you.
I'm like, if you care, wewouldn't be having this
conversation.
You know, Like I care whatpeople think of me and I think
it doesn't bother me if peopledon't like me, if the reason why
(32:55):
they don't like me is becausethey don't understand or they're
being ridiculous.
You know what I mean.
If I do somethingunintentionally and I hurt
someone that matters to me.
You know what I mean.
I do care if I hurt somebody orI do something unintentionally,
so I do care what other peoplethink.
You know what I mean.
Like I do care if I hurtsomebody or I do something
unintentionally, that, so I docare what other people think you
know what I mean.
(33:16):
I think there's a lot of thesethings in our heads that we've
come to believe and I don'tthink it's actually true.
It sounds nice, but I don'tthink it's actually true.
I think we all care.
We're social beings.
Cynthia Ruiz Lopez (33:28):
Yeah, as we just say, like I told you, it
was a year that I started my joband what I did was I actually
emailed two of the doctors Iwork with and I said you know,
it's been a year since I startedand I wanted to get your
feedback on my work.
You know?
No, they were actually reallygood they both said I'm doing a
(33:49):
great job and and so I mean, ina way, you know, even though you
say you may not care, somepeople may say that they don't
care.
They do care you know whetherthey're doing a good job.
You know with work or at home,or with their friends, people do
care.
Carmen Lezeth (34:03):
Yeah, I think when we talk about not caring
what people think, it's actuallybeen morphed into something
different.
I think what we mean is peoplewho don't matter to us, people
who are people we don't want inour lives or, like you said,
people who don't pay my billsOkay, those people who don't
care about.
But in the big scheme of things, like especially if you watch
(34:25):
people on Tik TOK, like big timecreators who then make one
mistake and everyone's hating onthem or whatever you know what
I mean, like and I you know, Idon't know what some of these
people do, but I'm like well,they did, they made one mistake
and they hate them forever andthen the then the creator has a
choice.
They can either apologize or,you know, own the mistake and
(34:49):
move on, or they can stand inthe bullshittery and make it so
much worse.
Do you guys know, own themistake and move on, or they can
stand in the bullshittery andmake it so much worse.
Do you guys know who the hatlady is?
Okay, the hat lady, she's cubanand she had a huge following.
I mean, she still has a hugefollowing, especially compared
to me.
I have nobody.
I love the people who follow me.
I'm just saying like, um, butshe came across as somebody who
(35:12):
really cared about, you know,latinos and everything that's
happening, especially withpolitics that's going on, and
you know a lot of these ICEabduction things that are
happening with so many migrantsand immigrants and whatever.
I'm totally going to mess upthe story a little bit, but the
gist is still important.
So I don't going to mess up thestory a little bit, but the
gist is still important.
(35:32):
So I don't mean to lie.
She was talking about how ICEraided a massage parlor and the
massage parlor, clearly forpeople on the audio, has happy
endings.
Let's just put it that way.
Everyone knows what that means.
Okay, the massage parlor wasfull of Asian women and all of
these women got taken by ice orwhatever.
(35:53):
And this Latina woman who seemsto be an advocate and whatever
and seems to be, you know,against ice or whatever, was
laughing about that and saying,well, that's good, that place
should be shut down because it'sit's not a really good massage
parlor.
You know what kind of massageand those women needed to be,
and she went on a tangent aboutit and I remember watching it
(36:14):
being like what is wrong withthis woman?
Anyway, long story short.
She's gotten so much from otherbig creators as well, backlash
from the whole thing because herwhole reputation has just been
shot, not because she made themistake right.
She made a mistake.
What she didn't realize andwhat other, especially Asian,
(36:36):
big time creators were tellingher is a lot of those women are
sex trafficked into this countryand they have to pay off their
bill before they're let go totry to get a job in the United
States, and they are goingthrough the same thing that
these other immigrants are goingthrough here in this country.
And you chose a lot of them.
(36:57):
So do you think she was like ohmy God, I made a mistake.
I know she fucking doubled down.
She doubled down and then shestarted going after the big time
creators who pointed this shitout to her.
So now everyone me too I did avideo this morning and I
(37:18):
couldn't take it in my mouth,but it's this kind of thing,
like she just ruined herreputation and now what I
realize is that maybe who Ithought she was all along was
not really true.
Because that's what happens whenyou mess with your reputation.
Right Like now I realize, likewait a minute, I was supporting
her, and I don't meanfinancially, but I was, you know
(37:40):
, watching her, I was followingher, whatever.
And now I realize she wasalways anti everyone else except
her people.
No, no, I'm, I'm not only antieveryone who hurts people who
are Black and Latina.
You know what I mean.
They must be that mix.
No, I am anti anyone hurtinganyone else.
(38:05):
Period, Yep With a T.
You know what I mean.
So she ruined her reputation.
She lost so many fun.
She lost me like within aminute.
I couldn't believe what I was.
I was like she did not just saythat and I went back and
checked Is this the?
Maybe I'm following the wrongperson?
Let me just see.
Rick Costa (38:25):
I think I saw something too with a girl that
she also just totally ruined herreputation, also just totally
ruined her reputation.
You probably heard about thiswhere she this she convinced
this little older woman who wasa little bit mentally impaired
to go into the ocean and shesaid I'll give you 20 if you
jump into the ocean not evenknowing if she could swim or not
, and she couldn't.
And then they're like oh that'sa big time tick tocker right
(38:49):
she must be, and then she had.
She went to some place to likesay hi to the fans, and nobody
showed up yeah, yeah, that's I.
Carmen Lezeth (38:56):
I don't know her name, but that that's a really
big deal because she used herplatform and then abused it.
Yeah, because the woman couldhave died yeah, wow, it was
really, really bad.
I don't and that that to me.
Here's the thing the hat ladywoman, she's older like, she's
(39:18):
older than I am Like, and I'mlike I don't think you were an
adult, you should know better.
Like even in your initial like,cause I watched her say it, it
wasn't like I you know what Imean.
Like I watched her say thisthing and I remember being like
what is wrong with this woman?
Like, does she not know thatthese women now have been caged
somewhere?
Like, what are you doing?
And and like just to one more,one more thing that pissed me
(39:42):
off, cause I just have to saythis I don't know why people get
mad at quote, unquote, let'sjust say prostitutes or women of
the night or whatever.
How come you don't get mad atthe johns or the like that's who
just gets me so angry?
You know what I mean.
Like you get mad at the wrongpeople.
Why are you getting mad at thevictims who are trying to make a
(40:03):
living and shouldn't, in thisfucking country, have to be
doing this kind of work anyway?
Okay, that, let me just.
Let me just back up.
Yes, that content creator who Idon't know what her name is.
I don't follow her, but I sawthat no one showed up and she
had like a greet and meetbecause she was trying to
re-establish herself againbecause she had made this huge
(40:23):
mistake and did what she did andnobody showed up.
But then I thought it was alsobad that people went in there
and were like take you knowshowing, ha ha, take you know
showing video of no one showingup.
I'm like okay, because nowyou're getting clicks and money
for making fun of somebody who'sclearly hurting.
No matter what someone does, ifyou're really a good person,
(40:44):
it's not that you wish ill willon them.
You wish for them to learn alesson and move forward, but you
don't then turn around and makemoney off of them.
But everybody's always makingmoney off of somebody.
I saw that though.
Yeah, okay, the only opinionthat matters to me is all of my
audience.
No, I'm just kidding, we got toclose out with that.
(41:08):
Yeah, no, I think opinions ofother people matter to us
because we're social beings.
I don't think there's anythingwrong with that.
Yeah, no, I think opinions ofother people matter to us
because we're social beings.
I don't think there's anythingwrong with that.
But, like Rick said, if theyain't paying the bills, you
don't need to cry about it, youknow.
But, okay, well, thank you forthat, guys.
That was an all over the placejoyful Sunday conversation.
(41:32):
That started with reputationand I guess we'll end with
reputation and Cynthia, thankyou, you're going to find us
some money Very excited, leavingthat.
Now I just need.
I'm looking for $80,000.
Rick Costa (41:44):
So if you could do that, all I got to do is write a
hit song, and then we're goodto go.
Carmen Lezeth (41:51):
Rick you can just go and put a little note that
AI helped you, what credits doand you know what.
Can I just finalize somethingwith that?
Everybody is struggling withthis and I'm not saying that my
opinion is the right one.
I'm just saying everybody isstruggling with this right now.
I'm just saying this wholething like are you actually
(42:13):
creating something if you'reusing AI?
I don't know.
Right, I say no, but you know,I don't know, I don't know, I
don't know If somebody's editingyour guitar, making that's
different.
Rick Costa (42:27):
Yeah, I have to turn it over with the actual songs
that I'm doing, and the last oneI did I wrote the lyrics myself
, so at least I can say thatmuch.
Carmen Lezeth (42:36):
This is my song.
No, that's for sure.
I think that's for sure, that'sfor sure.
Rick Costa (42:40):
And it was a song about grief and I sent it to
certain people that I know arein it and they were like that
was so beautiful and, yes, Icried.
I was like I just want to see agood song so beautiful.
Are you going to sing it for?
Carmen Lezeth (42:54):
us?
No, all right.
Well, everyone, thank you somuch.
Remember we're here on Fridaynights at 6 pm Pacific, 9 pm
Eastern, always here on Sundays.
We're so grateful for you tojoin us at 12 pm Pacific, 3 pm
Eastern.
My brain is not working.
Have a great rest of your weekand remember, at the end of the
(43:17):
day, it really is all about thejoy, all about the joy.
Cynthia Ruiz Lopez (43:19):
Bye, everybody, bye.
Carmen Lezeth (43:23):
Thanks for stopping by.
All About the Joy Be better andstay beautiful.
Folks have a sweet day.
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