All That To Say

All That To Say

In each episode, All That to Say engages fresh minds on the front lines of what matters. From cable news to incarceration, global warming to gospel music, economics to income inequality, this podcast fearlessly confronts the paradoxes of truth, the paradigms of culture, and the presence of the Divine.

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October 19, 2021 72 min

In this long-form conversation, General Superintendent Emerita and Ambassador of The Wesleyan Church Jo Anne Lyon talks about the life and work of John Wesley who, much like Jesus, ministered at the intersection of spiritual, cultural, and political change. It’s in that light she reflects on the question of the church’s role in policy, as well as her participation as a member of the Council on Faith in the World Economic Forum, exa...

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In this intimate conversation, author, Bible teacher, and spoken-word artist Hosanna Wong offers reflections on the global pandemic as it relates to faith, loss, leadership, and where we go from here.  

 The daughter of a heroin addict and Chinese gang member in San Francisco, she recounts her father’s transformation through faith, the impact of his loss, and how she met that loss with “the only thing I knew how to do,” which was p...

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In this in-depth interview author, leadership coach, and CEO of Building Champions, Daniel Harkavy sits down to talk surfing, growing up Jewish, and the responsibilities of influence in the modern world. 

Learn how a serious accident fueled this self-described Hebrew school dropout’s search for meaning, his conversion to Christianity, and the path to love and partnership with his wife of 33 years. And how the consciousness of his o...

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Director of Strategic Partnerships for the United Nations World Food Programme (WFP) David Austin sits down for a fearless conversation about the real consequences of hunger, and the potential of power to solve world hunger and create positive change on a global scale.

In this interview David identifies hunger as a major driver of social and political upheaval, the immigration crisis, and more. He connects the dots between food and...

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In this interview, Noel Castellanos, founder and president of Camino Alliance, recounts his upbringing as the son of migrant workers, his experience of disenfranchisement as a young Latinx in Texas, and his first introduction to Jesus at a Young Life camp.

Learn how his personal life experience – and his experience working with poor and marginalized populations in the inner city of Chicago – has caused him to examine the immigratio...

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June 15, 2021 80 min

Former Harlem Globetrotter, public speaker, and purpose coach Derick Grant sits down for a long conversation about his introduction to basketball and his unlikely path to the Harlem Globetrotters.

He reflects on how his parents, who grew up in rural South Carolina during the civil rights movement, built a strong foundation for him grounded in faith. And he talks about his nine-year career with the Globetrotters, which took him to 7...

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In this in-depth interview, history and gender studies scholar Kristin Kobes Du Mez unpacks research that traces the roots of Christian nationalism, patriarchy, and masculinity, and the degree to which they align with the Biblical teachings of Jesus. She also discusses complementarianism, the reigning evangelical view of gender roles, and the historical reasons that drive many white evangelical men to look outside the Bible for a h...

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Listen in on this in-depth interview with former U.S. Congressman from Indiana David McIntosh, as he recounts his experiences attending Yale University, how the Watergate scandal inspired his interest in politics, and the true story of how the Federalist Society for Law and Public Policy was founded over pizza and beer during his tenure at the University of Chicago Law School. (Hint: One of his law professors was Antoni Scalia.) 

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In this long-form conversation, Brooklyn-based journalist and author Katelyn Beaty reflects on her Midwestern upbringing, why she got into writing, and her time with the evangelical magazine Christianity Today (founded by the late Billy Graham). She also discusses how her identity as a feminist (which she calls a “dirty word”) has been fed by scripture, and how that has shaped her writing, from a Washington Post op-ed about Donald ...

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May 13, 2021 111 min

In this intimate conversation Paul Young, best-selling author of The Shack, speaks frankly about his experiences of tremendous loss, including sexual and physical trauma as a child of missionary parents, his struggles with mental health and suicidality, an extra-marital affair, and his journey through brokenness, reconciliation, and healing.

He also reflects on the genesis of The Shack, which he began as a story for his children, w...

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In this in-depth conversation, Former Surgeon General of the United States Dr. Jerome Adams frankly discusses the opioid crisis, racial disparity and COVID-19, and the role of faith in leadership.

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March 1, 2021 98 min
In this intimate interview, Christian Hip Hop artist Allen Swoope talks about the influences of Livingston Taylor and Charles Myricks, Jr., and explores the intersection of faith and culture.
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Ready to Rise author Jo Saxton has a long, intersectional conversation about women’s empowerment as a strategy for building a stronger country, church, and culture.
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A conversation with Portland, Oregon-based Ben Sand, as he imagines a new paradigm of mobilizing around Black community, and empowering leaders for the common good.
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In this interview, Anderson University president and former FBI deputy director John Pistole shares stories about George W. Bush, his time in Washington, D.C., and how his faith grounds him in his work.
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February 26, 2021 92 min
An intimate conversation with Christian vocal artist Sandi Patty as she reflects on the future of the music industry, her interactions with Ronald Reagan and Barbara Bush, and the evangelical church.
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