Dave Attell

Episode 149: Modi and Periel are joined by the ultimate comedian's comedian, Dave Attell. 

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Speaker 1 (00:03):
Welcome to, and here's Mody.
Welcome to, and here's Mody.
Welcome to, and here's Mody.
I can't believe this guest thatwe have today, dave Attell.
Ladies and gentlemen, thanksfor having me.
Everyone, he's.
It's a legend.
We have a legend.

Speaker 2 (00:21):
All right, all right, you know I'm not a big
compliment guy.
I knew he was going to be upsetif we said something like that.

Speaker 1 (00:25):
I know, not in front of the rented plants.

Speaker 2 (00:28):
This is like a sting operation.
That's how they pull down.
Delorean Modi, it's great tosee you and, of course, always
again, I love how busy you are,how forward-thinking you are and
how you really go for it.
And, um, I remember doing theuh, the Brooklyn festival with

(00:48):
you and Long Gold and like uh,just seeing it grow and grow and
grow.
It was packed.
I said to Jeff Ross, I'm like,look at this man, look at this
crowd, and we were both veryimpressed.

Speaker 1 (00:55):
Thank you and we were so happy you were there and, uh
, I, I, I, I know you.
You don't like beingcomplimented.

Speaker 3 (01:04):
Complimented.

Speaker 1 (01:05):
You don't, yeah, but people you know, comedians those
of you in the world who do notknow who David Tell is, just so
you know it's the utmost comics.
Comic Comedians look up to himand are in shock.
When he's on stage, they rundown to go see it and you learn

(01:26):
so much from him.
And comics that go on tour withyou that are your opening acts.
When they come back, they allspeak with your cadence.

Speaker 2 (01:35):
Oh yeah, it's so amazing to see that you spend
enough time with someone.
You're going to end up talkingLike look at a marriage At the
end of the day, like it's likeone person talking so.

Speaker 1 (01:44):
I, I.
I will say I never toured withDavid Tell, I never opened for
David Tell.

Speaker 2 (01:49):
Well cause, I worked Friday nights.
Oh wait, that's why.

Speaker 1 (01:52):
Sorry, no, no.
But I will tell you one thingwhen coming up in comedy you
know I began in 1994 at theCellar, but every time you were
at caroline's, oh yeah, I wouldalways come in to watch.
Oh, and I never forget when Isaw, sometimes you did two shows
in a night and you get bored,so you would kind of like lose

(02:14):
the audience a little bit andthen get them back again and
kind of like lose them a littlebit and then get is.
Is that a thing you you did onpurpose or no?

Speaker 2 (02:23):
I I think for like years.
I I'm glad you brought upCaroline's because that is
definitely an icon club of thecomedy world that is no longer
with us.
It was very sad when that wentdown but I was always there the
weekend between Christmas andNew Year's.
It was supposedly the bestweekend to have the club because
there's a lot of tourists intown and, like you get the
traffic because it's in TimesSquare.

(02:44):
So you get like that kind ofenergy, that traffic and people
come in and they want to see theshow.
So I would sell it out.
You know, I'm not going to sayI wouldn't, but I would sell it
out.
But it was like not the bestcomedy crowd.
They were like families, youknow.
They just were walking pastRockefeller Center.
You know, lighting a tree, Idon't't know.
They got an idea we want to getin.

(03:04):
It's cold.
They'd be sitting there.
So it'd be like threegenerations of, like you know,
connecticut people sitting therewearing their sweaters and
you're like this is my crowd.
This is not a rough and readycrowd, so I would get them, lose
them, but I would say that theuh, the the thing about what I
do if you want to get intocomedy.
Comedy is that like I'm alwayslike you know a joke away from
figuring it out.
So that's why I try a lot ofthings Like I like jokes.

(03:26):
I like really kind of you knowfast in and out kind of jokes,
but like at the end of the day,like I never have enough, and
that's the problem.
It's like if I was astoryteller, if I was uh, you
know a different kind of comic,then like I could really kind of
lock them in for the whole show.
But with me it's always likestart, stop, you know.
It's kind of like you know, uh,like a web connection like it's
working, it's not.
You know a bad, you know badservice.

Speaker 1 (03:47):
So so you're more joke, joke, it's yeah, I'm a
joke guy, that's my thing, andthey're amazing.
No, but like, and you go okay,let's get, let's start some,
let's do something I know workand then you just start to do oh
, yeah, then I I always feel,like you know, you should be
able to bend the joke, like youknow, really test it out in
different situations.

Speaker 2 (04:04):
You know, and back then this was before the TikTok
crowd work situation, like youknow, you never know like a
drunk holiday crowd when you'regoing to have to interject with
the crowd or you want to diveinto the crowd.
So there was a lot of thatthere and I really have a lot of
great like memories of thatclub.
I mean, it really was like itwas a very big deal, as you know
, to headline Caroline's.

(04:25):
I was like you were like, wow,this is pretty amazing, I'm
headlining Caroline's now.
So I had been, you know, in thecomedy scene for a long time
and it was like you finally getto headline there and, like you
know, you feel like I've hitanother level of this.

Speaker 1 (04:37):
So well, you, you also had an.
You also had a television showthat was unbelievable.

Speaker 2 (04:42):
Well, thank you um insomnia, which was, which was,
which was it's really prettymuch my only credit, so I might
as well just talk get it out.
It's like, yeah, it was great,it was a travel show, it was a
drinking show, but you know, theyears afterwards were really
tough, you know.
You know, going shot for shot,you know, like with pounding it
with the crowd and like itreally like kind of you know a
lot of dark places there and Iwould say that the people who

(05:03):
watched it, you know, were tooyoung to come see me live.
So when I would go on tour Iwas like where are these people?
And they would never be there.
So there was a lot of likepluses and minuses to that
experience.
In a way.
I feel like it kind of itreally I don't even know what to
say.
It's like I'm good on my feetand it say it's like I'm good on
my feet and that it was my ideato do a kind of show like that.

(05:23):
But in today's world I reallyfeel like there's so many things
like that.
Now everybody is a travel log.
Yes, you know you, you see ittoo, like generationally I mean,
I'm older than you, for surebut generally say, everybody has
that skill set now of just likegoing to a place and like
turning it into something.

Speaker 1 (05:39):
So no one.
No one did it like you and andno one did crowd work like you,
and you'd almost think thateverything that you did was like
almost set up the Insomnia Show.
He would go around everywherethat was at night and he would
speak to like the garbage.

Speaker 2 (05:57):
Yeah, no, I love the late night jobs.
That was really the point, thelate night jobs.

Speaker 3 (06:00):
Well, you, still famously only like to go on late
at night, right?
Yes?

Speaker 2 (06:04):
thanks for interjecting.
Finally, this love fest waskind of dragging me down, Thanks
Modi.

Speaker 1 (06:11):
I'm going to do a little more love.
I'm just going to tell you.
So again, I didn't tour withyou, but I got to help you
decorate your apartment.

Speaker 2 (06:17):
Yeah, okay, well, what happened?
She was going to say something,but, yeah, all right, we can
get back to it.
Okay.
But, um, yes, modi, and who wasyour friend there?
Who's like now so big?
We could never, ever imaginechris ben's.
Yeah, like I lucked out and Igot like, um, I don't know, it'd
be like getting picasso beforehe's picasso exactly when was
this?
10 years ago, because I justrepainted and um, it's so funny

(06:41):
because you remember modi gave,modi gave it a great touch you
know to the point where, like Iremember sitting there alone,
you know, I was like wow, thisreally is built for like
conversation and friends andparties and all the dishware I
got and everything.
I still have all that stuff.
But it was just funny.
The only thing out of placethere is me.
Modi set it up like a nice,warm, loving home and I come, I

(07:06):
move in and it's just like youknow I'm squatting in my own
house.

Speaker 1 (07:07):
Sometimes he calls me up.
He says to me hey, I bought anapartment and I just need, like,
maybe you tell me to show mewhere the sofa should go and the
tv should go.
I walk and I go dave.
We have to gut this entireplace out.

Speaker 3 (07:17):
Oh my god it was insane.

Speaker 2 (07:20):
I'll tell you something about my place that
the the my guy, the guy.
He goes, you know, somebody sawyour apartment and they did it
too with the floor, because Ihave a stone floor, you know
which is great.
I picked it out, coming out ofa shower, you know.

Speaker 1 (07:33):
I picked it out and we did it with Tile Bar.
They gave you an amazingdiscount because they loved you.
The guys Orthodox Jewish guysloved it.

Speaker 3 (07:41):
I just went to Tile Bar.

Speaker 2 (07:45):
I wanted to put my head through a pane of glass.

Speaker 3 (07:46):
Wait, is this a sponsor?
No, he's not.
You gotta get.

Speaker 2 (07:47):
Tile Bar.
We gotta.
No one wants to get Tile Bar.
If you want tile, you gotta getTile Bar.
It was such a great thing wedid.

Speaker 1 (07:53):
We did these huge slots of, and it so fits him.
It's so great, and beautifulrugs on top of it.

Speaker 3 (07:59):
And do you love it, or are you just like oh?

Speaker 2 (08:02):
that was like I haven't even I, anything that we
decorated I took down already.
I like the walls, like I guessit's from living in hotels.
It's just like there'ssomething calming about nothing
on the walls, likeinstitutionalized, like there's
just something about that.
But I have no taste, I reallydon't care.
I mean like it's great that helike at least came in and gave
it some, you know some.
It's a great place.

(08:22):
I mean like.
I mean like I'm totally I'm notmoving.
You know I don't have the moneyanymore to move, but I would
just say that, you know, thanksto Modi and his friend, it
really has a cool look.

Speaker 1 (08:30):
It's his cool painting and everything like
that and so, and so the peopletalk about comedians that are
nocturnal.
It's like they think, oh, we goto bed at 2 pm, yeah.

Speaker 2 (08:45):
I'm still on Coke time.
No, I'm still on.
Like I have a terrible clock.
I drink coffee all night long,like that was like my drink.
I remember one of the othercomics, louis Katz, who's also a
member of the tribe, very funnyguy.
Yeah, Louis Katz.
He said, you know, you got tostart drinking water and I'm
like what?
And then I just started and Iwas like wow, it really does
make a difference.
But how about you?

Speaker 1 (09:07):
Coffee, coffee, a cafe probably Coffee, but only
until like 2 or 3 pm.

Speaker 2 (09:13):
You always take good care of yourself.

Speaker 1 (09:15):
What was great about you was whenever we were looking
for stuff like sofas or tables,whatever I realized, you only
had a 17-minute attention spanto be in a store.

Speaker 3 (09:25):
So I would go.

Speaker 1 (09:26):
I would go earlier, yeah, all the options out Right.
And told him, dave, here's,here's, here's what I think we
should do for the chair, thetable, the bed in the and he was
like fine.
No he was yeah.

Speaker 2 (09:38):
I was always like I'd like to see more choices.

Speaker 3 (09:41):
I'm so indecisive, I'm so indecisive.
Oh my God.

Speaker 1 (09:45):
Oh, my God, and it wouldn't have mattered.

Speaker 2 (09:47):
Everything he picked was classy and good, and I would
say that it's like you know,restoration hardware is really
like.
That's where I fell apart,because I was like not only is
it expensive, but it's just likethings you can never imagine,
like you know.
Know, like I'm used to likeyeah, you got, you got some room
over there, put a sea chest.
Why not throw some pillows inthere?
It looks kind of cool, you know, you don't know, maybe it's a

(10:08):
treasure, you know.
But turn, there's likeeverything, there is like way
out of my league no but dave atat uh room and board.

Speaker 1 (10:15):
We went to pick a bed and he turned to the sales but
I picked out all these fabrics Ithought would be amazing that
would match, and also the floorand the rug that I was going to
pick out for him.
And he turns to the salesperson, says to her which leather for
a headboard is the least creepy.

Speaker 2 (10:30):
Yeah, really that's what he said.
I'm like a 70s feel there.
Luckily she knew who he was.

Speaker 1 (10:37):
She knew who dave was it was.

Speaker 2 (10:39):
It was a great all right room and board.
I give a shout out to thoseguys easy returns, easy returns
talk to me.

Speaker 3 (10:43):
Your family comedy today, yes, um, what do I see
going?
All right, room and board.
I give a shout out to thoseguys Easy returns, easy returns,
talk to me.

Speaker 2 (10:45):
Your fan base, comedy Today.
Yes, what do I see going on?
I see that you know there's thelive shows and then there's all
this web stuff, this contentand podcasting and content and
podcasting and like that seemsto be the real job of it.
In the past, like for me atleast, it was the travel, like
getting there, checking in ahotel.

(11:07):
You know you might have to domorning radio all day, okay, but
now it's like consistentlyconnecting, connecting,
connecting, basically eyeballs,eyeballs, eyeballs.
And I really don't know howthese young kids do it.
I guess they're used to doingit because they grew up that way
.
What do you think of that?
They grew up that way.

Speaker 3 (11:26):
What do you think of that?
I think that it's just part ofthe game.
Now, like, you have to beonline, you have to be doing
social media but I don't know.
I feel like, for somebody likeyou, somebody else should be
doing that.
I have a great person thatworks for me.

Speaker 2 (11:36):
But I'm a private person, Like I really don't like
to put myself out there.
I mean, I do the show.
I'm not a.
I'm not like wanting to be anyhigher in this business than I
am, I'm just holding ground.
But, like for somebody likeModi, I think it's awesome
because you've connected to agroup, to, to a fan base that
really wasn't being represented.
So I think that's awesome howthat worked that way.

(11:57):
But for me, personally, I wouldsay that, like you know, if I
had my, if I had my my, uh, if Icould, if I could just let it
happen, I would say that, likeyou know, if I had my, if I had
my my, if I could, if I couldjust let it happen, I would be
like, okay, well, I'll go thereand I'll play to a half full
room.
I mean, if people are so intome, they should know I'm going
to go.
You know, I posted it on mysite.
What more am I supposed to do?

Speaker 1 (12:25):
You know.
But that's the old schoolthinking, you know, it's selfish
.
So I, you know, I say toeverybody be the friend that
brings the friends to the comedyshow, just because you see a
comedy show is going to be intown.
Ladies and gentlemen, I can'teven tell you.
If you see david, tell I'mgoing to go through your dates.
Yeah, get tickets to this show.
You are going to plots.
He's so funny, he's so amazing.
The comics you travel with aregreat.

Speaker 2 (12:42):
Ian and uh, ian fidance and lou Katz, alex Price
, I mean a lot of great ones,ryan Reese but that's why I'm
hitting some of the culturalheartland for our people.
Yeah, louisville, kentucky.
No, I'm kidding.
No, I'm going to the south, I'mgoing north, I'm going all over
the place.
Give some of the dates sopeople get a feel.

Speaker 3 (13:02):
April 25th, Cincinnati.

Speaker 2 (13:05):
You're saying it like it's a question I'm going.

Speaker 3 (13:06):
Well, I'm handing you oh yeah.
I mean.

Speaker 2 (13:10):
I'll just put it down Cincinnati, louisville, raleigh
, all of them, they're all outthere.
What's up?
Oh then I'm going to Denver,colorado, which is a cool story,
because Colorado is an awesome.
When am I going to be there?

Speaker 3 (13:22):
You're going to be in Denver on June 19th.

Speaker 2 (13:25):
Yeah, the Comedy Works downtown is probably one
of the best clubs in America.
That place rocks all the time.
The crowds are hot, theacoustics are amazing.
That's where I shot my albumthere, and you know, never, I
think.
The only thing I'm up againstis it's summer, and summer in
Colorado.
People are out.
You know, there's a music fest,there's a jam band, you know

(13:46):
there's something going on there.

Speaker 1 (13:47):
There's Dave Attell at a comedy club which is
nothing gets better than that.

Speaker 2 (13:51):
Well, I don't think that's true.
I would go to the free stuffand then maybe come to the show.

Speaker 3 (13:56):
That's not a great pitch.

Speaker 2 (13:58):
Yeah, I know, but I don't you know, at the end of
the day I'm like maybe you knowit's time of year, I don't know.
Moving tickets has never beenharder and I do not blame it
people.
The economy is rough out there.
It is scary, but when I comedown I give it my all and I
think you'll have a good time.

Speaker 3 (14:13):
And where can people buy tickets?
I?

Speaker 2 (14:15):
would just go to my site and you could see all the
links David's L dot com and youknow.
But we've talked a lot about me.
I want to talk about us for asecond.
Okay, how this situation isworking, and when do I get to
sit on the couch?
Now, Modi.

Speaker 3 (14:31):
You want to switch seats?

Speaker 2 (14:32):
You brought up a lot of stuff here tonight,
caroline's, all that kind ofstuff.
What's the next step?
Talk show, a sitcom, a moviewhat are you thinking For me, or
you, I?
A movie what are you thinkingFor me or you, I'm done?
Dude, you're talking to a ghost, I'm out.
I'm just trying to get out.
Let's hear it.
You, you, you, you, you're theguest, you're the guest.

(14:54):
Yeah, but I want to hear whatyou're thinking, where things
are going, what's happening.

Speaker 1 (14:56):
We're going to keep touring, just keep touring.

Speaker 2 (14:59):
So let me tell you what's your life on the road
Tori.

Speaker 1 (15:03):
I'm very blessed I have a husband that comes with
me, leo, leo, great man, greatman, and he everything that has
to that a young comic is.
I'm living in the world of ayoung comedian because he
handles all of the everything.
Yeah, we've just signed with anew management company.

Speaker 2 (15:19):
But is it in and out?
Like you do the gig, you flyout kind of like Vegas style yes
, unless it's in and out.
So you don't like stay and likeenjoy the scenery or anything.
Like you know, you go to Europeright.

Speaker 1 (15:32):
Are you going to take a tour?
When we do that?
When we go to Europe, we stayan extra few days.
He loves London, and so we willspend an extra few days in
London.
We're going to Paris and wespend an extra few days in Paris
, and you know that kind of.
But if I'm doing a show inOmaha, nebraska, which I am,
we're not making a thing of it.
I don't want to see thewhatever museum they have, we
come and we do the show and weleave.

(15:54):
If it's in the winter, we comethe day before, so we don't have
any problems with travel, butthat you know the travel.

Speaker 2 (15:59):
You're a better flyer than me.
I really can't do more than sixhours at this point.
My colon, my everything, it'sreally like the paranoia of
being in a thing.
It just shut me down.
I mean, I traveled a lot onthat show.
I've traveled for the last 30plus years.
But the fact that youinternational travel the way you
do, I'm pretty like I thoughtby now you'd be going private.
But let's face it, things are.

Speaker 1 (16:19):
We're getting there.
Yeah, no, that's what I see,that's what I'm thinking.
We're trying to work on it, andtelevision stuff too.
We're looking at differentoptions coming up.
I taught you.
I think it would be awesome.

Speaker 2 (16:28):
Yeah, you know, but back to Europe and you were just
there.
I haven't been there in years.
Like I remember playing England.
This is how long ago I playedEngland.
It was George Bush Jrr, thesecond bush.
Yes, they were heckling meabout him, you know the first
gulf war so uh, they were nicelittle hecklers there.

(16:48):
But I played um london.
Oh wait, I played that.
And then I played ireland and Iplayed uh, holland, which was
probably that.
That to me is like the classiceuropean.
This was before like comedybecame cool, so like it was.
Tom Rose was the only guy whoreally did this.
He was like the Marco Polo ofcomedy.
He was everywhere all over theworld Vietnam, everything, yeah,

(17:10):
but uh, you know, in um in inthese countries.
So you know, they really didn't.
They knew it was entertainment,but it wasn't the kind of
entertainment they were used to.
But they still were so politethey would give you like a
little applause and I was likeit was like this was like weird,
you know.
And then I did like a lot of us.
I've done a lot of us tours, soI've done like all these

(17:31):
different things of like in themiddle east, but it's like you
know the troops, so no, but Ifeel like, I feel like if you
don't like to fly, you couldlike fly into europe and then do
like a bunch of europe, cities.

Speaker 3 (17:43):
Yeah, take a train.
That's not bad.
It's all about economics.

Speaker 2 (17:46):
I can't really leave the country because of my mom.
My mom has dementia.
There's a lot of people outthere who are the primary care
people for someone in thatcondition and it is very, very
emotionally, financially andphysically exhausting.
So God bless my sister, who's areal angel for doing the nuts
and bolts I'm the finance guyand it really is like anytime
you leave, even being on theroad for two days, I'm calling

(18:09):
what's going on there, what'shappening, and God bless, we
have good round the clock care.
I have that she's not in afacility or anything like that.
And Modi, who also is a angelcan I tell your story or no?
What's my story?
The neighbor you took care ofthis old man for like how long
was that?

Speaker 1 (18:25):
You took care of him like 15 years when we were doing
your apartment, we were-.

Speaker 2 (18:31):
It was heartbreaking.

Speaker 1 (18:32):
I was taking care of.
Down the hall there was aHolocaust survivor, hirsch Huber
.
I was taking care of him, I wastelling you the stories, what
was going on with him, and youwere telling me stories about
going with you, with your mom,and we were like sharing stories
of being health givers and andhealth care providers.

Speaker 2 (18:48):
There is, there is something up there, is something
up high that like let you lethim live next to you, cause not
everybody would do that.
Not everybody would do that,you know, especially in New York
, where it's like you know who'slike living next to me?
What are they doing?

Speaker 3 (19:09):
What are they saying?
That you jumped in and he hadno family.

Speaker 2 (19:10):
You know slow down, just so everybody who's
listening can catch up.
Okay, I'm trying to give Modisome serious props.
He had a neighbor.
He was a Holocaust survivor.
Okay, he had meant.
What was it?
Cognitive?
Did he have dementia,alzheimer's, whatever it was?

Speaker 1 (19:21):
So he had a little bit of dementia probably ptsd he
got uh but that he had theholocaust survivor, but he was
down the hall for me, so for meit was so easy.
I we arranged through um, thisjewish uh alliance thing, that
for him to have health care.
Something went wrong, a miraclehappened that they made a
mistake and then, because ofthat mistake, he had around the

(19:43):
clock health care, which I wasin charge of them.
So I was the call guy, I was the.
I took him to the hospitals.
I took him, I was thehealthcare proxy.
It was a full-time job.

Speaker 2 (19:53):
My sister does this, but it was down the hall.

Speaker 1 (19:56):
It wasn't you.
When you drive to see your mom,you're driving in Long Island
traffic.
Three hours on Easter to getthere.
It's insane Wow.

Speaker 2 (20:04):
To walk in the room and who are you?
So it's really like one ofthose kinds of situations, but
my mom deserves the best.
She's the best person I evermet, so I'm there until they
pull me away.
Yeah.

Speaker 1 (20:17):
And so we shared that .
We always had the stories ofwhat's going on with the person
that we were taking care of and,um, he passed away um 92, 93,
he really yeah.
We got him to israel and weburied him in the middle of
covid.
God bless man.

Speaker 3 (20:37):
Wow, what an crazy experience and then leo came and
leo started helping to takecare of him too, right, he loved
leo, oh that, oh, that's great.

Speaker 1 (20:43):
When he saw Leo, automatically there was a huge
smile on his face.
It was the best thing in theworld.
We would set him up outside hisapartment to eat alfresco.
We bought a little table and achair and just so he'd get out
of his apartment.

Speaker 2 (20:59):
Yeah, something to do .

Speaker 1 (21:00):
And he'd sit outside.
That's amazing.

Speaker 2 (21:09):
I knew all the cookies and all the food he
loved and he'd sit outside andeat them and you were the amount
you gave him a life.
You know that was great.
I always, I always.
Like you know, there's a lot ofcomics out there like who are
dealing with this?
Like older, you know, andthere's.
You know I don't have a family,I don't have children, I don't
have a wife or anything, but,like you know, you got to be
good to what you got and likeyou know, that I guess you could
say is my purpose for why I'mstill out there right now is to

(21:29):
keep her in a safe, lovingenvironment.
I believe if I put her in afacility during COVID she would
have died.
I'm sure, and I think also, shejust would have withered, which
is, you know, at least now.
She's not good, but she'smaintaining.
And I don't mind talking aboutthis because I'm I.
You know it took me a long timeto post a picture of my mother

(21:49):
on the web, cause it's like myfamily.
You know, the one thing I don'twant to do is bring shame on my
family, and I've, you know, Ihad a rough life, so posting a
picture of my mother was justlike.
She has a great day.
We all want to share it and her90th birthday is coming up and
I hope I'm here to see it.

(22:10):
It's coming in like a month orso and she is holding on, and
God bless.
And really, to the people outthere who basically had to move
cross country to live with arelative, this is happening all
the time.
And it's happening to youngerpeople too, where it's like, you
know, people in their thirtieslike, well, I moved out to San
Diego, but now I got to moveback because I have to go back

(22:32):
to wherever you know, missouri,because my parents are sick and
I and there's no one else cantake care of them and it really
what, and all kinds of stuff.
So it's very dramatic situation, you know right, and I don't
think any of the politicalpeople really get it.
You know it's very exhaustingand there should be some kind of
some kind of way people canlike do this with like a little

(22:52):
grace, you know, maybe somebenefits or whatnot that can
help.
So anyway, I don't want to geton a uh, you know, podcast and
start pounding that how aboutyou?
like I.
I really feel like I only seeyou either at a Modi, like
opening or function, but like,how about you?

Speaker 3 (23:08):
The last time I saw you was at the Nova exhibit,
right, yes, yeah.

Speaker 2 (23:12):
And you remember we all said outside, I was like man
, I don't know.
You know, like, with theprotests in full swing, I was
like wow, do they even knowabout this place?
And I think the next day it waslike boom.

Speaker 3 (23:22):
No, it was right when we left.
Oh was it.
It was right after we left thatit was exploded.
Yeah, it really did.

Speaker 2 (23:31):
I invited all the survivors who were like working
the exhibit, like how amazinglylike are these people that they
can pretty much like 180 to go?
Like you know, I need to likebe a part of this probably the
most horrible thing that's everhappened you know so we, so we
have you know when?

Speaker 1 (23:48):
that, when we did the 100th episode of this, of this
podcast, yeah, at the 92ndstreet, why, yes?
And she asked me who's yourdream guest?
It was you, but the one thatabove you was omar shemtov, one
of the hostages.
Oh, and now he's coming.
He was, oh, great, and we'redoing an event with him at the
striker center and he's um, youknow, we had his cousin on and

(24:12):
we had um family of his aunt.
Yes, and I did an event in mysynagogue for for the hostages
and, uh, on the past october 7ththe year after, and you know,
she always kept saying to meit's so funny that you, kind of
like, connected with him becausehe has an amazing sense of
humor yeah, that's what thepeople working there I said,
because it was a lot of comedyselling people, which is our,
like my home club.

Speaker 2 (24:33):
You know there's a lot of great clubs, that's my
home club, I guess, and I saidwe have to get them to a show
like they they want to come andthey really really they had like
this really kind of dark senseof humor and I was like, yeah,
why wouldn't they?
You know, like that's liketrial, you know combat, so why
wouldn't they?
So I don't know if they came ornot.
I know that it was a travelingexhibit, so it was a traveling
exhibit.
I don't know what they did,comedy wise, but I mean I, I you

(24:57):
stepped up, brother, and youalso went there like pretty much
you were there and then youwere there during the war, and
then we went back twice sincethen and we're going back again.

Speaker 1 (25:06):
We're going back again.
I can't, I can't wait.

Speaker 2 (25:07):
You have so many miles on me now with this, so
many miles, like, in the world.
You've traveled throughout theworld, so what would you say is
like, you know, like, let's ratethe world in terms of comedy.
Like where do they, where dothey step up the most?
Like where's the crowd pumping?

Speaker 1 (25:21):
You know, I am in love always with Canada.

Speaker 2 (25:26):
Oh, damn it Canada, both Toronto oh yeah, I mean
they have great, yeah, Great on.
I don't know what it is.

Speaker 1 (25:32):
I thought you were going to say like Luxembourg you
know, it's the hidden gem ofthe London's Well, florida's
Florida.
Florida is coming.
It's like London's wellFlorida's Florida.
Florida is coming.
It's like Jesus walking intoJerusalem.
You know, it's Florida'sFlorida I can't explain.

Speaker 2 (25:48):
That's your thing, man.

Speaker 1 (25:49):
That's Florida's Florida.

Speaker 3 (25:51):
Better than.

Speaker 1 (25:51):
New York.
I'm going to say it's rightthere with New York.

Speaker 3 (25:55):
Wow, florida's.

Speaker 1 (25:56):
Florida.

Speaker 3 (25:57):
Florida's Florida.
That's my audience.

Speaker 1 (25:59):
Don't forget, I was also a Catskill comic, oh.

Speaker 2 (26:02):
I did forget.

Speaker 1 (26:05):
That whole audience moved down to Florida and
they're kids and all that.
So they, you know they and allthree generations are sitting at
my show.
There's the kids, their parentsand the grandparents who saw me
in the Catskills, yeah, and soit's an amazing, amazing
situation.

Speaker 2 (26:23):
That's like another comedy skill set that no longer
is with us, is that you know theCatskill comic where he can go
up there, he can do it clean, hecould do it blue, Like you said
.
There's like little kids there,there's, you know, the whole
family.
And then there's the late nightshow, which is the singles you
know, and they, they would haveto do that and they'd be there
for like a month, Right, theywould be there like the whole

(26:43):
summer.

Speaker 1 (26:44):
You know the whole summer, cause they had all that
work.
Yeah, there was one hotel thathoused all the comedians.
Yeah, so there's comedianswould do three shows a night.
That's done any of those.
Yet I don't think I can.
I'm so dirty.
A cruise ship, doesn't BertBergreiser?
Yeah, doesn't he do thosecomedy cruises and all that

(27:05):
stuff, bert?

Speaker 2 (27:06):
is amazing man, this guy.
He never stops.
He just launched a special onNetflix, so you guys should
check it out.
I feel like he is definitelywhen it comes to content and
connecting with an audience.
He could teach a course on it,you know, he's so good at it.
And he also, like, every day hegets up and he's like you know,
what can I do with this day?
Like he makes the most of a dayLike I've never.

(27:26):
I went on the little tours withhim and like I've been on a
tour bus, you know, but he's gotit down to like a science man.
It's like a on a certain diet.
So, you know, god bless him,man.
I loved being a part of histhings.

Speaker 1 (27:44):
I'm so glad to hear that I'm dying to ask you
because I see you on that KillTony show.
Yeah, how?
So?
My favorite comedy to watch iscomedy that I don't do.
So obviously, you, I andbesides, and please let me just
give you the current and besides, and you, and please let me
just give you the, the current,how current you are with what's
happening in the world.
And then when I tell you, Iremember that when we're doing

(28:05):
his apartment, he said to meModi, I found something that's
amazing.
I go what?
I'm like, please, god, he foundsomething that we don't have to
pick anymore A clipboard.
I go what?
Oh, yeah, he discovered aclipboard to hold his notes for
his comedy.
Yeah, okay, but hold on, butlet me finish here.
So you, you, you, so I, I don't.
One of my favorite comics towatch is to take two hits of a

(28:26):
joint and watch cat Williams.

Speaker 3 (28:28):
I can't breathe.

Speaker 1 (28:29):
I can't breathe.
I'm on the sofa, curled up.

Speaker 3 (28:33):
We can't catch my breath.

Speaker 1 (28:35):
Leo's looking at me like like I Like I have a
problem.
I can't believe that.
Two hits of a joint.
I watch Cat Williams.
I can't catch my breath.

Speaker 3 (28:41):
Cat Williams saved my life after a horrible breakup.
For like six months straight Iwould just get stoned and watch
videos of Cat and I would justsit there and cry laughing.

Speaker 1 (28:52):
It's so funny.
And now I see you on Kill Tony.

Speaker 2 (28:55):
What is that vibe?
Oh well, I was going to givesome props to Cat too.
I was going to give some propsto Cat too.
I was going to say, like youknow, being comfortable in an
arena, like that's like.
You know, some people are likeChappelle, like he could do the
smallest of clubs, he could dothe biggest of things, but he's
always, you know, he owns thespace.
I love that.
Cat's another guy where it'slike he has that long table, you

(29:23):
know, and it's just him likebasically going.
You know, and like tony cat, catwilliams, no, but the kill tony
thing and and you know, like,uh, there's a lot of like, you
know, uh, talk about the show.
I feel like this is the, thisis the, definitely this is this
generation's like.
I don't even know what tocompare it to, but like I guess,
uh, this is, this is the showthat they're going to be.
Like I get the most, I get themost.
Hey, I saw you on kill Tony andunless you've been on kill Tony
, they don't know you're a comic.

(29:44):
So kill Tony is the touch, isthe, is the new, like gateway to
comedy for a lot of the youngaudience.
They love it.
I think what they like about itis the gladiatorial feel to it
and how, like you know, tony,and he, he's a cool dude, like I
know he comes there it's likean ice man, you know, like he's
shutting them down but he's acool dude and like he takes care
of his only like that, thatgroup of comics, you know he

(30:04):
takes care of them and takesthem out and, like you know,
they built careers off of thisplatform.
So but for me, like, when, likekeep them going.
But these, you know, there it'slike you know you're basically
up there tough loving them, youknow, and a lot of them aren't
new anymore, like I think youknow, like the gong show kind of
feel, where they're likerecurring characters.

(30:26):
So God bless them.
They're selling tickets,they're on the road.
They never would have had thatcareer if it wasn't for Tony.
And if you've been to Austin toa live kill Tony show or the
Madison Square Garden, there isan energy there.
It's like a prize fight,there's like this crazy energy.
And you see, you look at thecrowd, like my crowd's older 30s
, 40s, 50s, you know and hiscrowd they're young, they're,

(30:50):
you know, like tech people, youknow, whatever they do and they
love it and it's like everybodyyou know, women, men, just like
everybody just loves the wholething of it and he puts on a
great show.
The one thing I could say abouttony is that, you know, he's
got the band, he's got the styleand like it fits out of madison
square garden.
It's not like one of those like, oh, we're gonna run out of

(31:11):
show here.
No, he fit, he fit, you know.
So, uh, but yeah, I don't know.

Speaker 3 (31:15):
I mean, I 30s, 40s and 50s is not old for an
audience by the way?

Speaker 2 (31:20):
Well, that's your Florida audience.
Is the next step?
Right 18 to 88 is Florida what18 to 88.
I'll say one thing aboutaudiences that the younger the
audience, the less connectionyou have with them.
But also they bring in the.
They bring in the.
They bring in the.
You look at the guy laughing inthe back, the older guy who's

(31:41):
lived a life, who's failed,who's made horrible choices.
He gets you.
But these young people who arebasically connected to a device,
who've never actually made achoice, they just clicked and
liked and all that stuff.
And they never had to make likeshould I move?
Should I move to St Louis?
Or what should I do?
Am I going to join the AirForce?
They haven't done that yet.
So to do, am I going to jointhe Air Force?
Like they haven't done that yet.
So they kind of have a cleanslate.

(32:01):
They kind of look at you likewhoa, you're not allowed to do
that.
You know why would you do that?
Why would you put yourself inthat position?

Speaker 1 (32:06):
You know, like that, kind of thing that's interesting
.
But they're also so jaded nowwith that crowd work they just
think everything.

Speaker 2 (32:13):
Are they or are they not their crowd work?
The crowd clips that they'vebeen watching, you know
debatable, like you know, someare better than others.
I think Jay Oakerson just putout a second part crowd work
special.
That's crowd work.
That's like really like go forthe throat, you know.
But also like get to know themand the people, his crowd, the
Legion of Skank, the you knowall of his shows, they get him

(32:37):
and they're there Like they gethim.
Like Jay brings a lot of likepeople, like from all different
walks of life, and they get them.
So that's the kind of crowdwork that I know that I grew up
on and like the other kind thatyou see is kind of this gentle,
like you know, whoa, look whowore a sweater, you know I don't
get that you know.

Speaker 1 (32:55):
Right.
No, yours was with alcohol.

Speaker 2 (33:02):
It was so layered, it was so good.
You always had something to bamright back.
Well, it was a knife fight backthen, like in the, you know,
you know why.
You know why it was like that.
Because there was a lot ofpeople came with the attitude
I'm from long island, which is,like, you know, you better be
funny.
You've gotten this as well manya time.
Well, you better be funny, oryou know, I can get up there and
do what you do.
So you have to kind of proveyourself every night.
Now, there's nothing like that.
It's basically you're here totell your truth.

(33:23):
You know, this is my point ofview in the world and like, if
you doubt that, or like have astrong opinion against it,
there's something wrong with you.
But back in the day, like Ialways bring this up like pips
on, you know, in Brooklyn, like,if that I forget even who ran
the club at this point, but itwas just like I remember him

(33:45):
just telling people like you'renot funny, get them.
You know like that kind of thing.
Like you know, get that.
Well, what is that?
Get off of my.
You know, like they really.
You know they were little Kings, they ran like these little
kingdoms, so now they would belike you know, basically, you
know, uh, on the web canceledall that kind of stuff.
So you know, I don't know.
I mean I used to think like itwas a cool thing to be a comic.
Now I'm not so sure.
You know, oh, come on, it's anamazing thing.

Speaker 1 (34:06):
I mean, I love doing it, but I think it's really not
special or anything.
You've made so many peoplehappy.

Speaker 2 (34:12):
All throughout the years, hundreds and hundreds.
But no, I would.
I'm glad I got to meet thepeople, I did and I got to go
places, I did and all that stuff.
But you know there's a, youknow there's a lot of comics now
, you know and like, uh, there'ssome really good ones too, and
I'm not going to like look downon anybody but like I go in at
the end that's what we startedthis with just to see if I can

(34:33):
follow them.
Now, at the end, which usually,like you know you had to, you
had to like really bring it.
Now it's like can I follow thisperson who just did 15 minutes
of great energy material thatconnected with this young crowd?
So it's really kind of like, mykind of like, I guess you could
say, like the movie theWrestler, I'm still do, I still
got it.

Speaker 1 (34:50):
As someone who's watching you, as someone who's
watching you when you do go on.
After five comedians are justkilled with 15 minutes of just
crazy energy, the audience fivecomedians are just killed with
15 minutes of just crazy energythe audience goes oh wow, here's
the real thing.

Speaker 2 (35:04):
No, I don't know about that.
Yes, yes, I think there's a lotof really, really really good
new comics out there.

Speaker 1 (35:09):
There's great new comics and they're great and
they're doing great and theytaught themselves from YouTube
videos and from all and they'regreat.
But there's also an audiencenow for it.
There's a bigger, hugeraudience for comedy.

Speaker 3 (35:20):
I don't think it's mutually exclusive too.
I think nobody's doing what youdo, I don't know about that.
No, I'm saying like I think so,like I think that like there
are there are so many morecomics, and like it's easier to
try to be a comedian now becausepeople are using their phones
and all this social media, butbut that's not what you're doing

(35:46):
are we?

Speaker 2 (35:47):
are we the?
Are we the problem, or are they?

Speaker 3 (35:48):
maybe that's what I don't know their generation.
That's what comedy is.

Speaker 2 (35:52):
You know like, uh, you know like that's what it is
for them, and you know we don'tkind of measure.
You know it's it's kind of like.
You know like you know, justlike the changing of the guard
know it's it's kind of like.
You know like you know, justlike the changing of the guard,
like that's their, the, whatthey find funny, and the people
who put that out are comedians,whereas in our generation it's
like you had to go to a placeyou had to commit to a night
being there, and but a reallyreally old, wise club owner said

(36:17):
to me I believe it was innashville he goes.
You know the days of just likegoing to a comedy show, no
matter who's there over, no onewill ever just go.
Like I feel like a laugh.
What do you want to do?
Let's just go to a show andhave a good time.
And that usually was like theworst crowd.
By the way, it was always likethe bachelor party that wandered
in.
But still, he's so right,because everybody is too
informed they can watch.

(36:37):
I've got this a million times,like I've been watching you on
YouTube all day.
You know like that kind ofthing, like like they're going
to check my plays or something.
So I'm like, no, everybodyknows what they're getting into.
And yet there still is thiskind of like sense of oh, so
this is what it is, and it'sreally hard for a crowd to
disconnect from the phone to payattention, especially when it's
, like you know, there's thingsgoing on drinking food and all

(36:59):
that kind of stuff.

Speaker 1 (36:59):
Yes, so I'm going to get.
So just to get back to you withthat, I'm a little disagreeing
with you.
I have, at my meet and greets,people telling me I go to bed
with you every night.
My husband knows I go to bedwith you every night because I
watch all your clips before I goto bed.
It helps me calm down, sleep,whatever, and and you are
working at a comedy club and youdon't understand how people

(37:20):
don't understand how hard thatis.
I recently was in, I did thePittsburgh Improv.

Speaker 2 (37:25):
Yeah, that's a great club.

Speaker 1 (37:27):
Top of the line, improv Top of the line places,
really, and great crowds too.
So I've been working theatersand I forgot about the food.
Yeah, it's been like two, threeyears since I've been in that
situation, whoa.
Yeah, first of all, theyordered everything food, not
only that, so the order coming,and then they packaged it up to

(37:48):
go, all right.
So that was now there's boxeson the table and the check, and
I had no opening act.
I just I had an hour and 20minutes I needed wow.

Speaker 2 (37:57):
So I just can't barely do 45 minutes, I know I
know you never.

Speaker 1 (38:00):
You never do it for an hour.

Speaker 2 (38:01):
It's like the new material.
Like you know, I get rid of theold.
I tried a joke from my lastspecial of Hot Cross Buns on
stage and like I even forgotlike how it went.
I was like whoa Same.

Speaker 1 (38:12):
Same.
I taped my Know your Audience.
I forgot the bits.
I've been so busy with this newshow and I just forgot the bits
.
And Leo knows them by heart.

Speaker 2 (38:22):
Oh, so you whispered in your earpiece.

Speaker 1 (38:25):
And people are like well, people are very happy that
I'm not doing those old bitsbecause they've seen them
nonstop, but I'm doing the Pausefor Laughter tour now.
That I'm doing now it's an hourand 20 minutes of new material
Awesome.
And now I'm going to the cellar, uh, this sunday and next week
to work on some new stuff.
Wow, to, to, to, to.
Yeah.
All all inspiration of youspending time with you when you

(38:47):
built your apartment and beingwith you and just watching like
I would get to you and again.
So I had gone to sleep and wokeup to meet him at 11, but he
had already been up.
Yeah, yeah, I don't sleep.
He doesn't sleep At all At allWanted Wanted.
So he'd hit me with like histhree jokes I just wrote and I'm
like I'm the worst comic in theworld.

Speaker 2 (39:07):
No, no, I like to check jokes with other people.
We call it joke checking, whereI'll call up somebody and I'll
go have you heard anything likethis?
Does somebody do anything likethat?

(39:42):
And then you do the joke andthen you feel like you know,
like a year later or whatever,three months later it's like uh,
one of the um you know, like,uh, I'm trying to think of, like
you know it.
Now, I think with all of thisweb, everything is a joke and a
meme and a this that, like it'sso impossible to check something
, a new idea it takes out.
I feel like it takes hours.
I mean, maybe AI could help.
You know joke checking.
But uh, you know, I have noidea.
But it's really like you knowyou do it because you don't want
to do anybody's stuff.
And you also, like you know,you realize, like I do now that
I realize that, like um, youknow jokes are disposable, even

(40:04):
though you kind of like you knowthey're like your little, like
child, you know you grow themand then you like toss them out
to the world and all that kindof stuff.
But yeah, jokes are jokes andlike after every special, I'm
sure you feel the same way.
You're like what do I do now?
I have to go on stage at thisclub.
I really have no new material.
I don't know if they all saw itor not, but I want to start
doing the new material and thatis the beginning of the build.

(40:25):
I feel like that's the mostfrightening time for comedy when
the guy starts building thehour, the person has to start
building a new hour.
So I just and we all do it onstage in front of people,
instead of like it's not like anart piece.
Like you know, I'm working on asculpture and then I'm going to
bring it out, so everybody getsto see the process 100%.
So there's definitely balls tothis job, you know, I think so.

(40:45):
But you know, at the end of theday, there's a lot of voices
out there, there's a lot ofnoise and there's a lot of.
You know there's a lot of.
You know ways to entertainyourself, not by not going, but
I think that that's true ofevery single art form?
Oh, for sure.

Speaker 3 (41:03):
And I still think that the great voices of comedy.
I don't think I'm great.

Speaker 2 (41:08):
I'm barely good sometimes.
I would say it's a craft andlike, the more you put into it
like you know, master craftsman,like, the more you'll get out
of it Some people are gifted.
They're actually great and theyknow what they're doing the
whole way through.

Speaker 1 (41:20):
And that's you, and that's me.

Speaker 2 (41:21):
But I had my moment and I also, you know, like, get
it.
And I also, like you know, Ihave nothing against where
comedy is going, because it'snot my role.
You know it's like let it go,like me, and the older guys will
, like you know, be and moanabout it, but at the end of the
day it's like it's going to gothis way, then it'll push back,
that way, and then it's going togo that way and it's going to

(41:42):
go this way.
And you know, it's like, aslong as it keeps moving, it's
alive.
That's all I can say.

Speaker 3 (41:46):
Yeah, but that's what I'm saying.
I think that the great voices,whoever they are, whether
they're young or they of thesocial media and the noise it's
what you like.

Speaker 1 (42:00):
You know, like some people, like jazz is like this
purist George Carlin kept hisaudiences throughout his to the
70s, 70 year old Well here's mything about George Carlin.

Speaker 2 (42:12):
If we're going to go into this comedy in-depth
conversation, is that like, yeah, george Carlin did the bravest
thing of Braves, which is likehe had a.
He had a like sweet contract inVegas doing an act that he no
longer wanted to do and hewalked.
He said you know what, I'm notthat guy anymore, I can't live
being that guy, so I'm walkingand you know that's cool.

(42:32):
And then he developed this newperspective.
His intellect, his wisdomstarted shining through these
things where it's no longer kindof what I do, the jokey, joke
stuff but like, he really likehad a point of view and, like
you know, with his skillset frombeing a comic, he was able to
get that across in a funny way.
Each special had a differentpoint of view, but it also was

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all packed with info and jokesand stuff like that.
Then, as he got older, I thinkit became more of a of preaching
and then at that point, that'swhat we see today, which is a
lot of like people with aperspective, but not few, very
few laughs.
And my niece who, uh, by theway, is in the uh, you know
she's a joke writer for, uh, youknow, she's working her way up

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through the system in the latenight world.
You know we were talking about,like you know, her generation,
my generation, about jokes andhow, like you know, some people
have totally turned off by jokesin her, in her world, in my
world.
I was like that was likecurrency jokes, you know, like
you need jokes.
You got to learn how to write ajoke, you got to learn how to
fix a joke.
It was like jokes, you know,like you need jokes.

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But back then, now it's like,you know, whatever Quirkiness,
all that kind of stuff isequally as important as like
material.
So it's weird, you know, andwhen we used to do the late
night, you've done Letterman.
I have never done any of those.
Or Leno, none of it, reallyNone.
Oh, my God, you got to do it,you got to do one, and how

(43:58):
stressful that is.
It's like six and a halfminutes, whatever it is one and
a half, yeah yeah, and it waslike three punch lines a minute.
You know that kind of thing andthey would.
They would rework your set theway it was working in the club.
They never would let you do itright so this is like eight
weeks of your life, performingfor six and a half minutes, and
you have no idea like what'sgoing to happen.
The crowd what's going tohappen, what you're going to do.

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You know, my, my whole thingwas like I just don't want to
implode.
You know, like well, I'm up tojust like start babbling.
So when you do it and thenyou're like the feedback, then
you're hoping to be asked backto do it again.
Then you do it again and again,and again.
And I was like, you know, likenick griffin, who's one of the
greatest comics, who deservesway more props than he's gotten

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out of this business.
He's done this consistently foryears and years and years and I
give him.
I give him that because Icouldn't do one of those anymore
, like you know, fine-tuningeach joke and I like to be free.
You know I want to do it theway, like whatever hits me,
that's what I'm going to talkabout but like having to do it
like that and make it so tightyou can't go over.
They would always say that toyou.
You cannot go over.
Right, when you see this light,you got two seconds.

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When you see this, when you gotfour minutes, something, so
they would say that all.
So it's like they're launchinga rocket as you're talking,
basically.
So I said what if we went over,couldn't you edit it?
They're like no, listen,everybody wants to go home.
I thought it was like some kindof thing, like we have to call
the president of nbc and like hehas to call the Pope and he'll
get back to us and we can edit.
He's like, listen, people wantto go home.

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You know, they don't want tohave to sit here re-editing.
I was like that's it, I'llbring the guy a sandwich, you
can edit out all my you knowbooze.
So that was my story, but youwould have killed it on it.
And like getting able to sitnext to Letterman or Leno or any
of them, conan was my favorite.
They really were the ones wholet me go like crazy.
So I said that to Conan at NormMacdonald's Memorial.
I said, conan, I love doingyour show.

(45:44):
I always felt most comfortablewith you when we were going back
and forth.
Kimmel, all these guys are realgreat, but are these shows
going to like?
You grew up watching them?
Our sound guy, our editor, ourengineer over here?
I bet you he didn't.
Why would he?

Speaker 1 (46:05):
There was better things to do at 11 30, you know
at that point you know, but uh,this next generation, I don't
think they're gonna have thatconnection.
They're gonna have that fourminute clip on uh, on uh, right
up into.

Speaker 2 (46:10):
So I have a whole show, then like that's what I'm
thinking as a network, likererun some game shows or
whatever an old episode ofsomething you know they do and
no, that's depressing I know,but it's just like the world is
changing.
You know, like, um, I hadtrouble, like well, I have
trouble watching a whole specialnow for my attention span it's
so, so 15 minutes in, I'm likeit's don't young kids, don't

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they?

Speaker 1 (46:32):
I, I had I had dinner .

Speaker 2 (46:33):
Well then, you have a great fan base, because I think
everybody has a problem I, I, I, I, I didn't know that.

Speaker 1 (46:39):
Young kids really don't.
Some of them don't know thatthere is a whole special.
They think it's-.

Speaker 2 (46:42):
Oh, okay, yeah that.

Speaker 1 (46:43):
Yeah, they just don't know that you can go see an
hour special.
They go yeah, I love your clipsand I go.
Yeah, did you see the special?
Did you see Know your Orange?
He goes?
No, I go, it's on YouTube.
Just go and sit and watch it.
It's an hour and eight minutes.
They had no idea that was evenan option and this wasn't like a
stupid kid, it was like a smartkid in college, a good college,

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and they don't know the comedyworld, that there is specials
and it's hard to sit throughsomebody's hour.

Speaker 2 (47:10):
I think so.
I think it really is.
That's why my last one you know, not to that's my current
credit I guess I wanted to makeit really short.
I wanted to make it just enoughso that people would get me and
get what I was doing at thatpoint and then get out, because
I have trouble sitting there foran hour.
I really like a special for meis like a two day affair.
Like I got to this part and Ialways know at the 30 minute

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mark in anybody's special, thisis when it gets really serious.
This is the stuff that theywanted to put up front, but they
put it in the back.
They edited it in the back.
This is what they really wantedto.
They put all this stuff on thefront to keep the eyeballs, like
the first 15 minutes orsomething like that.
And then this is the stuff thatlike it's like it's either

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filler or it's what they reallywant to talk about and then at
the end you know they try andbuild up again.

Speaker 1 (47:59):
So so you know that's what I know about specials.
Editing is very important.
You know currently the hour I'mthe, the hour I'm working now
post full after.
It's exactly what you're sayingup front.

Speaker 2 (48:04):
I do all these over the top accents yeah, you gotta
just lock them in, lock them, inlock them in, then I go into.

Speaker 1 (48:12):
You know I'm a little bit older now.
I talk about how I'm the lastCatskill comedian and like all
of that kind of stuff.
But you're right, you know thatstuff should be up front.

Speaker 2 (48:22):
Yeah, and that's what you really want to talk about,
because that's what I want totalk about.
But you have to do the job andyou're doing the job, whereas if
you go to like a room somewhere, like maybe I guess you know
like an offbeat room, whereyou'll see people like not doing
the job, but they're talkingabout what they want to talk
about.
So you know, in a way, that'sbrave and in other ways, like
you know, like our job is to getmore laughs than it would if we
were, like you know, justhanging out on a, on a bench,

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you know.
So that's that's what I think.

Speaker 3 (48:46):
So have to talk about what you want to talk about,
because otherwise it's not funny, like the best thing is is to
see comics cracking themselvesup.
Like you can tell when somebodyis talking about something,
that's bullshit or somethingthat, like, they actually care

(49:08):
about or or they think is funnythemselves, right, true?

Speaker 2 (49:14):
Well, nate Bergazzi, who is a great comic, he also
represents, I guess you couldsay, the king of clean comedy,
right?

Speaker 1 (49:19):
now.

Speaker 2 (49:20):
He, he's a guy who I've seen just level up, level
up, level up and, like you know,he's a good comic.
He's a great comic and he alsorepresents a group that likes
clean comedy.
So I don't know, like you can'treally, you can't really put a
finger on it, but it's like he'slike the double, the double,
you know, the double punch, likehe gives both, you know and I.

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I think he represents kind oflike something that I've always
known that like the cleanercomics usually always had the
better jokes, because that youcould always dirty up a clean
joke but you never could cleanup a dirty joke.
And like we've all tried itwhen they had to do like a
network where they havestandards and everything, but
like I give it up to like theBrian Regans of the world, you
know, um there's so manyHamilton.

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Ryan Hamilton's, like you know,it's like that's their thing,
you know that's the perspectivethey have.
And I also, like Seinfeld, hada big influence on me in terms
of, like you know, small things,you know, can generate big
laughs.
You know the way, like when yousaid, like you want to talk
about what you want to talkabout, like I want to talk about
why my washing machine is soquiet, you know, like is there

(50:22):
something wrong with it?
You know, but that's like oldschool, generic People don't
want to talk about that.

Speaker 3 (50:28):
They want to talk about, you know, global warming.
I don't know if that's true.
I, you know, I think everybodyhas, like you know what, the
things that they like.
I don't personally gravitate somuch towards clean comedy no,
you don't I like stuff that youknow like.

Speaker 2 (50:42):
I love alga, oh yeah, like she hits hard, she does,
she's amazing, she's um yeah,the governor's, which is another
place where you played it.
But I that was kind of likewhere I kind of started in a way
, like once I got out of theopen mic scene.
Governors was where it was likeanother big step of like
playing governors on Long Islandto the people I, you know, grew

(51:04):
up around you know like thesekinds of things.
So that was that was like a bigdeal too.

Speaker 3 (51:08):
I guess it's like the authenticity is the thing that
like to me really speaks.

Speaker 2 (51:13):
Yeah, but you're like a really, you know you're a
super fan, like you know comedy,whereas, like I think, most
people come in with very highexpectations, like you said, you
know, like somebody saw a clip,so they drag someone else there
.
And I get a lot of people likeI've never been to a comedy show
, I've only seen it online, andlike they're like any other
person who just kind of walkedin.
They're like it was good andthen it was bad, and like at

(51:37):
these showcase clubs there waslike I liked the first guy and I
hated the third guy andwhatever, and the last guy just
I fell asleep.
So they get to judge, you knowit's their right.

Speaker 3 (51:48):
Yeah, but it's like at the end of the day, it's like
it's either funny or it's notfunny.

Speaker 2 (51:52):
Right right.

Speaker 3 (51:52):
And I think that, like, the more real it is, the
more funny it is.
Daniel Simonson is anothergreat example.

Speaker 2 (52:00):
He's another guy who I think is like there's so many
levels to what he does and whenyou see a crowd, get it you're
like wow, this, that's brave See, I would immediately jump on
the crowd.
He's brave.

Speaker 1 (52:14):
So are you, and I think anybody coming to see your
show is going to have anamazing time and it's just, it's
so good to go out and reallylaugh.
And people say to me you know,we just haven't laughed, we just
haven't laughed, we justhaven't Go see a live comedy
show Laugh already everybody.

Speaker 3 (52:31):
No, laugh it up I have to say that I saw you and
Jeff do Bumping Bikes at theCellar.

Speaker 2 (52:38):
I can't believe I didn't bring that up, that Jeff
is, like you know, almost a timetraveling comedian.
He would do great in vaudeville.
Yes, he would have done great.
Like I mean, like you know,like he just has that ability.
You know, he really just heloves as much as I shy away from
it, he loves the attention, hethrives with the crowd, he loves

(52:58):
being on stage that way andlike, god bless him.
You know, the guy just um had aserious health issue.
You know it's, it's, you know,and he's back out there right
away Like he could not mostpeople would.
We kept saying rest, just hangout and rest, but for him he has
to be out.
You know he has to do stuff.
So you know, god bless him,he's out there.
He's doing a one man show, yeah, and I think that's awesome.

(53:18):
It's going to be on Broadwayand you know he to me is like
what, what?
Like comedy used to be butstill kind of is, and he kill
Tony's and all this kind ofstuff.
The roast battles that Jeff didis really the, the George
Washington of all that stuff.
Absolutely, you know, the goodGeorge.
Anyway, thank you guys forhaving me.

Speaker 1 (53:38):
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We're going to give me thesheet.
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