And That's That On That

And That's That On That

Best friends Haley Chapman and Gavyn Bailey host And That’s That On That. The hosts bring a wealth of knowledge and humor to each episode, featuring insightful interviews with accomplished artists and creators across various sectors of the industry such as Katie Gavin (MUNA), Zach Charles (A R I Z O N A), ELIO, Maddie Grace Jepson, Aidan Bissett, Gatlin and many others, as well as funny, real, and honest stories about living out their twenties. Every week brings something new. If you're a fan of chaotic conversation, this one is for you. Tune in Mondays anywhere you stream podcasts.

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December 30, 2025 58 mins

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This week, Haley and Gavyn sit down for their final episode before their “brief” medical leave post–kidney transplant hiatus. They talk about their ins and outs for 2026 — but, as usual, it turns into so much more.


The two ref...

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We’re back with our holiday special extravaganza! This week, we reminisce about the exact moments we learned Santa wasn’t real, relive iconic Christmas memories, including questionable holiday cocktails and Del Taco traditions, and spiral into discussions about grief, RBF vs. resting concerned face, and why Chri...

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Guess who’s in their consistency era? (That’s on character development!)

In this episode, Haley accidentally launches herself into orbit courtesy of a mystery gummy, while Gavyn gets unexpectedly acquainted with modern medicine and a surprise nap he didn’t sign up for. From hiccup horror stories to cosmic tarot rea...

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This week, Haley and Gavyn sit down with artist and songwriter manager, A&R, founder of The Arena Music, and—once upon a time—Gavyn’s boss, Jared Kaner. They get into the wild reality of the music business and how Jared went from selling...

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November 24, 2025 42 mins

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Happy Holidays and Happy Thanksgiving to our beautiful listeners! This week, Haley and Gavyn gather around the proverbial Thanksgiving table for a cozy holiday episode. They take a trip down memory lane and revisit old episodes in a rebranded “Into It and Over It,” now appropriately titled “It’s Giving Thanks...

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Breaking news! Gavyn finally left his apartment which means he and Haley are back in the same room for the first time in a year. Huge! They’re joined by the incredible artist/songwriter Debbii Dawson. They talk growing up in a musica...

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November 10, 2025 54 mins

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Guess who actually showed up two weeks in a row? (Miracles do happen.) In this episode, Haley takes us through the iOS update from hell, a laundry room run-in with a shirtless short king (that nearly ended in disaster), and why turning 30 might just be the glow-up she’s been waiting for. Gavyn dishes on Binx t...

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November 3, 2025 49 mins

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You guys… we’re embarrassed (monkey covering eye emoji)… We didn’t mean to take another hiatus. But what matters is we’re back and this time, we’re here to stay. We SWEAR!


On this week’s solo episode, we cover everything from men’s Instagram reel activities and AI boyfriends, to eczema where the light do...

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In this episode, Gavyn and Haley chat with Aidan Bissett, the 22-year-old singer-songwriter who traded in footballs for guitars and jumped into the TikTok game in 2020. Aidan shares about his early days on the app (before it became the ultimate launchpad for aspiring artists) and how he’s evolved musically with his new album, building on the success of "Planet."

But that’s not all—things get real as we explore therapy, the hunt fo...

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In this week’s solo episode, Gavyn is back with a kidney update (spoiler alert: still failing), while Haley celebrates a win in the health department with a smooth biopsy experience (only slightly less painful than listening to people chew loudly).


In our brand-new segment, "Irritation Station," Haley shares how she unintentionally played cupid for exes—because why not add accidental matchmaking to her résumé? Meanwhile, Gavyn goes ...

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Hold onto your headphones, folks, because this episode is the crème de la crème—like, top-tier catnip, for real. We somehow convinced the ridiculously talented Gatlin to be our second EVER in-person guest.  And yes, we spilled all the tea on her career highlights, including that time her single "What If I Love You" barely scraped by with a teeny 70 million streams on Spotify (very casual, very chill).


We also dive into the thril...

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Well, well, well… look who's decided to grace us with their presence! After a whopping 700 something days of doing some questionable things (oh sorry, I meant on “sabbatical"), Haley and Gavyn are finally back on And That’s That On That. Clearly, their two-year vacation was exhausting, but they're thrilled to return! They’re back to bless your eardrums with tales from the last Ice Age (aka the past two years), including juicy stori...

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Hello hello hello and welcome to Season 2 Episode 12!!!! We are officially half way through the season and we’re back from our one-week hiatus! Today our guest is Carol Ades, a globally successful artist and songwriter who released her debut single “I Can’t Wait To Be British” in 2021, but has been writing hits behind the scenes for years under her full name, Caroline Pennell. She’s written hits such as “Past Life” for Trevor Danie...

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This week, Gavyn and Haley have artist and songwriter Will Jay join the pod! Will is a former member of the successful boy band IM5, as well as a former contestant on The Voice China, and now is making a name for himself as an artist and songwriter. He’s accumulated over a hundred thousand followers on Instagram, and millions of  streams across streaming platforms. You’ll hear us chat about our thoughts on the music industry t...

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Hello hello hello and welcome to Season 2, Episode 10!!!! Today we’ve got the viral TikTok star herself…EILISE GUILFOYLE! You’ve probably seen at least one of her viral TikToks all over your feed as she’s already racked up 7.4 million likes and 113,000 followers on the app, almost 18,000 followers on Instagram, and has starred in multiple film & TV projects. Gavyn & Haley crack open a drink and chat with Eilise all about he...

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Hello hello hello ATTOT listeners and Happy Pride month! On this week’s episode, you’ll get an honest life update from Gavyn & Haley. We’re opening up about why your 20’s are confusing, exciting, uncomfortable, unpredictable, lonely, challenging and just flat out overrated. Life is hard and full of ups and downs, so we’re in your ears this week telling it how it is! We’ve also got a new guest popping in all the way from Nashvil...

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Hey all, Happy Thursday!! Welcome back to another episode of And That’s That On That. This month we’re spotlighting songwriters and we’re so excited to continue the streak with x2 GRAMMY-nominated songwriter, Shelly Peiken! You may know the songs she’s written such as “Bitch” by Meredith Brooks, “What A Girl Wants” and “Come On Over Baby” by Christina Aguilera, “I’m A Mess” by Bebe Rexha, “Who You Are” by Jessie J, and has written ...

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Hello hello hello and welcome to Season 2 Episode 7! This week our guest is a GRAMMY-nominated songwriter, one of Nashville’s most successful songwriters currently, Tofer Brown! He’s written hit songs like “Ocean” for Lady A, “Night Shift” for Jon Pardi, “Better With You” by Jason Mraz, as well as chart-topping songs for artists like Little Big Town, Kari Jobe, Darius Rucker, Britt Nicole, Ruelle, Emily Weisband and even songs for ...

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Ok fine maybe we’re just a little Nostalgic…This week’s guest is Zachary Charles of A R I Z O N A!!!! We’re seeing signs we’re freaking out…but seriously. We are such huge fans of Zach and his band A R I Z O N A and we may or may not have been manifesting him as a guest ever since we started this little show of ours. We had a lot to catch up on since we saw him perform at Coachella in 2019, so you guys will get to he...

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On this week's episode of ATTOT, we sit down with Blake Adam, a pop-culture connoisseur, music industry executive, and host of the Bravo-holic podcast "Blonde Hair Black Heart". Blake serves hot takes on notable moments from TV, movies, music, & more, plus celebrity interviews, politics, and even spills the story of how he got blocked by a real housewife that you definitely know... Plus, he tells us all about his journey of ado...

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