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August 26, 2025 68 mins

What happens when God reshapes a life? Bishop Joel Holmes shares profound insights from nearly six decades of ministry on the spiritual transformation process that turns believers into vessels of divine purpose.

Drawing from Psalm 51:5, Bishop Holmes illustrates how we're all "shapen in iniquity" at birth, requiring divine intervention to become who God intends. Using the metaphor of wood being bent to create a concert grand piano, he explains how our resistance to change must give way to God's transformative work.

The heart of this message explores the critical connection between consecration and spiritual power. Against conventional wisdom suggesting that relaxing standards leads to church growth, Bishop Holmes reveals how his unwavering commitment to holiness—taught with love and brokenness—actually catalyzed extraordinary expansion in his ministry. "When you move off from consecration," he warns, "you lose the cutting anointing that breaks the yoke of sin."

Bishop Holmes shares four essential pillars for building God's kingdom: prioritizing prayer (including regular fasting), cultivating genuine love for people, engaging in consistent outreach, and developing Spirit-filled teaching. He culminates with a powerful insight from Numbers 12 about God speaking "mouth to mouth"—describing those transcendent moments when divine truth flows directly through us, bypassing our intellectual filters.

Whether you're facing resistance to change, struggling with worldly influences, or seeking greater spiritual power, this episode provides transformative truths that will reshape your understanding of holiness, consecration, and divine purpose. Listen now and discover how embracing the "foolishness" of the gospel unlocks its supernatural power.

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Speaker 1 (00:01):
Oh, in the name of the Lord.
In the name of the Lord, in thename of the Lord, Hallelujah.

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Bless every nation, everyleader that's represented here
today.
God, I plead the blood overevery warrior, every apostolic
mentoring family member.
I plead the blood over themright now, In the name of the
Lord.
In the name of the Lord.
In the name of the Lord,Hallelujah, Hallelujah.

Speaker 3 (01:19):
Thank you.

Speaker 1 (01:20):
Father Hallelujah.
Thank you, father, hallelujah,hallelujah, hallelujah,
hallelujah.
Well, praise the Lord everybody, and welcome to Apostolic

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Mentoring.
I greet you in the mighty nameof Jesus from Columbus Ohio.
What a joy it is to be a partof this great kingdom mission.

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Equipping millions to reach billions.
And we want to say thank you toeverybody who's been covering
the crusade in Angola in prayerand I thank everyone who has
prayed for the Angola mission inprayer.

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Oh, my goodness, it was another incredible kingdom
victory in Luanda, and it was afantastic, wonderful victory in
Luanda in the Kingdom of God.

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We went there to minister and train Trinitarian
leaders in churches and it wasso exciting on our second day of
training, in Luanda God filled120 Trinitarians with the Holy

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Ghost.

Speaker 1 (03:16):
We invited our waitress from the hotel
restaurant to one of thetraining sessions and God filled
Claudia with the Holy Ghost.
Our translator, Brother Kiyama,was also filled with the Holy.

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Ghost.

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Then on Sunday we had a children's crusade.
That was just amazing.
We had over 1,100 children showup for the children's service.
And God filled 150 kids withthe gift of the Holy.

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Ghost.

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Then on Sunday we had another service with the
Trinitarian constituency that wewere working with, and another
44 were filled with the HolyGhost.
We had so many beautifultestimonies of miracles.

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Nine people who were deafreceived their hearing.
Fifteen people that were blindreceived their sight.
There were over 40 people withdifferent mobility issues that

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God miraculously healed them.
Eight people that had tumors intheir body.
God literally made those tumorsdisappear and on Sunday

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afternoon we wound up going downto the South Atlantic Ocean and
baptizing 28 Trinitarians inJesus' name.

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And on Sunday evening we baptized 23 more Trinitarian
leaders in Jesus' name.

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So many great, great victories, so many tremendous
meetings with great leaders inthe city of Luanda.
We are looking forward to goingback again next year and having

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even greater kingdom victoriesin that city and in that nation.
Of course we are leaving thisweek for the nation of Panama.
Of course we are leaving thisweek for the nation of Panama.

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And it's going to be one of the most kingdom-critical
moments.

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dear friends, All of the Central American region
leaders are coming in on Tuesday, Wednesday and Thursday.

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We're going to have the opportunity to minister and
train to the leaders of all ofthe works in the region and of
course, that's going to openmany more doors for Global
Harvest Crusades in many morenations.
So we ask you to just continueto pray for us.

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Pray for our finances , the Lord would give us the
resources necessary to walkthrough every open door that he
sets before us.
I do want to say thank you toeverybody who has given so
sacrificially to help us withthe Angola Crusade and the

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Panama Crusade.
We could not do these greatmeetings without your backing,
and you are such akingdom-critical part of God's
global harvest.

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Today.
We are just so excited aboutour guest.
We are incredibly blessed tohave Bishop Joel Holmes with us
today on Apostolic Mentoring.

Speaker 1 (08:12):
And of course it is no secret at all how much our
family loves Bishop Holmes andhis family and FPC.
And there is no secret but weare extremely happy and we love
this family.
An FPC.
These are some of the greatestkingdom voices in the world
today.
I know he doesn't like it whenwe do all this fluff.

Speaker 3 (08:42):
But I love Brother Holmes and I want to talk about
it when we do all this fluff andI know that he doesn't like
that he is talked about too much, but I love Brother Holmes and
I want to talk about it.
But I love this man and I wantto say things about him.

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The First Pentecostal Church is just one of the
greatest apostolic bodies inthis world.

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And First Pentecostals in Little Rock is
one of the most fantasticcommunities that exists and they
stand for one of the reasonsfor great awakening and
enhancement around the world.

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They carry the truth around the world.
We thank God for theirfriendship, their love and their
apostolic leadership.
I do want to say I'm gettingready to put in the chat a link

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to two of my favorite books byBrother Holmes.

Speaker 3 (09:44):
And in the link, I would like to say that I will
put in a link to two of myfavorite books that he has
written.

Speaker 1 (09:52):
One of them is the Six Steps of Prayer.
One of my other favoritefavorite favorite books is
Mountain Peaks of Truth.

Speaker 3 (10:05):
And the other book is called excuse me, what's the
name of the book?
Mountain Peaks of?

Speaker 1 (10:09):
Truth Mountain Peaks of Truth, and I'll put a link to
where you can get both of thosebooks on.

Speaker 3 (10:16):
Amazon and I'll give you a link so you can get these
two books.

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They're available on paperback and Kindle, but they
are great great kingdomresources.
Bishop Holmes, we love you.
Sir, love Sister Holmes and FPC.
We're thankful you're with ustoday.

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Please take your liberty andjust do what you do.

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Well, Brother, Robinette, it's a great honor to
be with you all today.
I was thinking as I waslistening to the report of your
mission Robinette, it's a greathonor to be with you today.

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When I heard the reports you came with initially.
I just have to say that I feelthe burden you have.

Speaker 2 (11:24):
I think we ought to begin with praying together and
praying for Brother Robinette.
I don't know of anybody morecommitted and making a greater
sacrifice for the kingdom thanthe Robinette family, and I

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think about the pace that hegoes at.
Jesus' ministry was three and ahalf years and he took time to
rest and get away from themultitude.

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And in comparison with Jesus' ministry, which was
three and a half years, he tooktime to share between the slags.

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And I just pray for you, brother Robinette and other
ministers.
Sorry that I don't guess I knowyou personally, but I pray God
would give you wisdom and help,that you take care of this
natural man, that your years maybe many with the kingdom of God

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.
Let's pray for BrotherRobinette and his family.
Come on All, join with me.

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Come on, let's pray her family in Jesus' name.
Will you all join with me?

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Come on, let's pray, god in Jesus' name.
We thank you for the great workof God, the kingdom of God that
has been built through theburden and zeal of Brother
Robinette and his entire family.
God, we pray for them today.
We pray that you would givethem strength and help and then

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give them those seasons of timeof rest.
We ask it in Jesus' name, foryour glory and honor.
In the name of the Lord, Amen,amen.
Well, I've been burdened aboutsomething for a while, so I'm
going to share with you what Godhas laid upon my heart, and

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it's the process of how Godreshapes our lives and reshapes,
of course, our thinking.
Psalms 51 and 5 says Behold, Iwas shapen in iniquity and in

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sin.
Did my mother conceive me?

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Was it Psalm 51.5?

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51.5, yes.

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Yeah.
So, as we know, this is thebattle of the flesh with the

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spirit.

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Since we were born and we were shaped wrong.

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We've got to be reshaped.

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And really it's a process of bending us into what
wants us to be into what wantsus to be.
Many times I walk by.
I have a concert grand piano inmy home and I look at the wood

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and how it has been bent,shaping around that beautiful
piece of that beautifulinstrument.
It's a lesson to me every daywhen I look at it and I think

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that wood that came from thattree did not grow like that.

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I think that the tree work that comes from a tree had
to be shaped and transformed inso many ways before it could be
used.

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It had to be bent to create this beautiful instrument
.

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Help us God today.

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He's working on us.

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He's working on us and it's a process of bending
and-olds with a very strong will.

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And if that child is productive in life, their will
will have to be broken andreshapen.
So God's working on us toreshape us and to mold us into

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His perfect will, that we can beeverything that God wants us to
be for His glory and honor.
What a challenge Paul talkedabout, changed into his image

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into his image.

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Paulus talked about being transformed into his image
2 Corinthians 3, verse 3,17-18,.

Speaker 2 (18:33):
For as much as you are manifestly declared to be
the epistle of Christ,ministered by us, Sir could you
repeat the chapter and the verse.
I'm sorry.
2 Corinthians 3 and the thirdverse and then go down to the
17th verse, 2 Corinthians 3 and3.

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Yeah, thank you, sir, for it is obvious that your
Christian letter has beendelivered to us by our service,
not written in black, but by theliving Son of God, not on a
stone tablet, but on the heart'sself-tablet.
Not written in black, but withthe living Son of God, not in

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the tables of stone but in thefleshly tables of the heart.

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We know the Old Testament.
It was written in stone, butnow God's will is to write this
Christ-like Spirit in our heart.

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We know that in the Old Testament it was written on
stone, but in the New Testament.

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He wants to write it into our hearts.
What a challenge today.
Help us God, to allow theSpirit of God to write His will
into our heart.

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And help us God to get the challenge there and let
Him be able to write everythinghe wants into our hearts today.

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The 17th verse.
Now, the Lord is that Spirit,and where the Spirit of the Lord
is, there is liberty.

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Verse 17.
Verse 18.

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Verse 19.
Behold, as in a glass or in amirror, the glory of the Lord.

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Men I vers 18,.

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Men vi som med utildekket ansikt ser Herrens
herlighet som et speil arechanged into the same image from
glory to glory, even as theSpirit of the Lord.

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Yes, we, we believe all the forwanderer to the
summit, build it for a hell, yetto hell, yet.
So man Herren song.

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And you the previous verses.
It talks about Moses with theveil.
His face was covered with aveil, but the Bible, ours is an
open face.

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Yes, and in the preceding verses it talks about
Moses, who was in front of thethrone but who would see God
face to face after a while,Beholding as a glass or as a

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mirror the glory of the Lord andwhat he is saying.
Our spirit and countenancereveals God's glory.

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What a challenge today to be a light to the world
that reveals the glory of GodIn Galatians 4 and 19,.
My little children, of whom Itravail in birth again until
Christ be formed.
There's this great man of Godto the Galatian church, praying

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and travailing that this processwould take place, the bending,
the reshaping, until Christ beformed in us.

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I think the best example ofthat is like wet concrete.
It's got to have a form, a formand that is all of us in our

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walk with god.
This we got to have the formuntil, uh, we get this
established in our heart that wegotta got to do the will of God
.

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We've got to be reshapen.
We must understand that it isimportant that we must be
reformed so that God's will mayhappen through us.

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Through trials and problems, we are broken.
Through trials and problems, weare broken, and then we can be
reshapen into the will of Godand what God has for us to
become.

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And through trials and battles and resistance we
will be formed into what Godwants us to be.
Then, in Romans, the 12thchapter, and the first verse.

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Then we will be formed to what God wants us to
be.

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Then in Romans, the 12th chapter and the first verse
.

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And in Romans 12 and 1.
I beseech you therefore,brethren, by the mercies of God,
that you present your bodies aliving sacrifice, holy and
acceptable unto God, which isyour reasonable service.
So we present ourselves as thisliving sacrifice, and it's got

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to be holy and it's got to beacceptable unto God.
And he said this is just ourreasonable service.

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And this must be your holy God's service, and we must
be living and holy as asacrifice to God's kingdom.

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And then the second verse is be not conformed to
this world this world, andhere's the challenge.
Be transformed by the renewingof your mind, that you may prove

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what is that good andacceptable and perfect will of
God.

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Help us God today.
Oh Lord, the pressure that is,on Pentecost today, to conform
to the ways and the things ofthis world.

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There's got to be a spirit in us that we resist this
world and all of itsentertainment, pleasures and
things of this world and allowGod to transform us.

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Then he told us how Disse kreftene som skal ha det,
ikke at vi skal bli lik verden,men at vi I stedet skal bli
forvandlet til hans bilde.

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Then he told us how that we'll be transformed.
He said it's by the renewing ofour mind.

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Og så står det her, hvordan vi skal bli forvandlet
ved at våre sin skal fornyes.

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So the challenge to us today is having the mind of
Christ.
Until we get the mind of Christ, we cannot prove what is good,
acceptable and the perfect willof God.
So we've got to resist, conformto this world, and then we've

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got to let God transform ourmind in a different way of
thinking than what we were whenwe were born.
Let me share with you one of myfavorite scriptures.

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Let me share with you one of my favorite scriptures,
and it was God speaking toSolomon 1 Kings, 4 and 29.

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And the Bible said and God gave Solomon wisdom and
knowledge exceeding much and theenlargeness of heart as the
sand that's on the seashore.

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Og der står det.
Gud ga Salmo visdom overmåttestor insekts, en forstand
som mangfoldig, som sand påhavets brend.

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Oh Lord, help us today.
The only way we're going to beable to grow and do the work and
the will of God is to get abrand new mind.

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God is to get a brand new mind.
And help us, god, for whatreally matters for us to be who
you want us to be.

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It is to get a new mind, and it is a mind like the
Christ mind I pray the prayer.

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God, if you did it for Solomon, have mercy on me
and give me that wisdom andknowledge exceeding much, and
that largeness of heart, even asthe sand that is on the
seashore.

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This is what God wants to transform us in is a
new way of thinking.

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A new way of thinking about the kingdom of God.

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A new way of looking at the world and the kingdom of
this world.
I can tell you, a great exampleof this has certainly been
Brother Robinette.
He has brought so much newthinking to the kingdom of God

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that many people can't evenreceive it.

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Lord, help us today.

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Give us wisdom and understanding and largeness of
heart, because we're born withvery little wisdom, very little
understanding and hardly.
Our heart is so small, ourvision is so small and only God

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can do this for us.
Amazing comparison that Godgave tells us the way that he

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gave it to Solomon Wisdom andunderstanding exceeding much,
and did not think about that.
God said I gave him largenessof heart even as the sand that
is on the seashore.
I don't think anybody cancomprehend.

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Of course nobody can comprehendGod either.
No wonder that he was able tobuild such an unbelievable

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temple that has never beenmatched, never, nowhere, nothing
to compare to the temple ofSolomon.
And you see the directconnection between largeness of
heart.

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Come on, let's pray together that God will do these
three things for us right now,oh, God, help me, Lord, I need
your help every day.

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Oh God, help me, Lord , I need your help every day.
Oh Jesus, oh Lord, that youwould give us wisdom and
understanding and then, Lord,you take the limits off our
heart, that we would have alarge heart to do your work and
your will With a lost and dyingworld that's dying without you.

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God, help us today to lift upour eyes and see the fields are
white and ready to harvest.
God, Lead us and anoint us.
We pray in Jesus' name.

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Amen, Help us God.

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Help us.

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You know, many times people stumble over holiness?

Speaker 2 (34:35):
There are many times people struggle with this, with
holiness, but I can tell youholiness, consecration is a
direct connection to the powersource that we need to do the
work of God.

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But I say that holiness and consecration is the
gateway to the power that Godcan give us and everything that
God can give us som Gud kan Ioss og alt det som Gud kan I oss
.

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So it takes this transformation of the mind that
you see the world for what itreally is.

Speaker 3 (35:13):
Så det skal til, at vi virkelig blir forvandlet I
våre sinne, I vårt tankesätt, såvi kan virkelig se, vad denne
verden virkelig er.

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When you see through the world and see through
Hollywood the sports world istheir religion and their God and
you see through all this thenyour mind is being transformed
to do the will of God.

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Så vi kan se gjennom verdens riker is being
transformed to do the will ofGod.
So we can see through theworld's riches and all their
gods, sport and Hollywood andall kinds of things, and we can
see that with God's eyes we willbe blessed and we will see more
of what God wants us to see.

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You know I'm soon be in November I'll be 76 years old
.
I started preaching when I was16.
My father had a paralyzingstroke that was pastored this
church when I was 19.

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And the responsibility of the church
fell on these feeble shoulders.

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I was not married.
Fourteen months later, ourchurch burned to the ground.
We ended up in a cafe that hadbeen shut down for many years, a

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very small building, and reallyPentecost was in transition
back in those days and it stillis.
I don't think it's ever gottenout of transition, it's just

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it's always trying to move andchange and as a young pastor I
was influenced by some ministersthat were seemingly on the

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cutting and pastors who were ina special situation.

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I should say exploding growth.
So there was something aboutexploding in terms of growth.

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And as a young pastor , of course I was caught up in
that.
So I was a part of that.
I was caught up in that, butthey weren't going to take the
holiness message with them andthen in a very short time they

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moved completely away from eventhe doctrine so.
I thank God for the truth thathad been put in my heart, but it
was like wet.

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I thank God for the truth that had been put in my
heart.

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But it was like wet concrete.
It was still liquid.
I needed that form of my fatherand my mother around me.

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As you know, everybody's got to get it for
themselves.

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And I still remember the moment that I made that
consecration to stand forholiness regardless of the size
of the church.
I was being told if you want togrow, you've got to move on.

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But what they have missed, and what Pentecost in
many places are missing today,is they do not realize that
consecration is connected topower.
Men det, som de dengang og Idag Pinsebevegelsen ikke har
forstått, det er at innvielse,det er porten til Guds kraft.

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When you move off from consecration, then you lose
the cutting anointing thatbreaks the yoke of sin.
You've got a powerless gospel.

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So when we go away from holiness and invitation,
then the power that makes usreally be where we are is
falling.

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We lose everything.
And I remember I made up mymind.
I said it don't matter if we goto 50 or 500.
I'm going to stay with thistruth with this wonderful

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message that has been handeddown to me of holiness and I'm
going to share with you todaythe consecration that and the
standards of holiness that wehave embraced here at the First

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Pentecost Church.

Speaker 3 (42:01):
And today I'm going to share with you the invitation
in relation to the HolyDoctrine here at the First
Pentecostal Church.

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I want to say it very humbly, but I hear so much
preaching.
They say holiness, and theynever identify what they're
talking about.

Speaker 3 (42:24):
I'm going to be humble, but I hear many people
talking about holiness, but theydon't explain what it means.

Speaker 2 (42:34):
First of all, there's got to be holiness in spirit.
There should be no agenda totry to hurt someone or outdo
somebody.
First and foremost, it must bea healing in the spirit.

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And it must not be an agenda where you have to aim
and blackmail others, men det måvære en agenda hvor vi har et
fullstendigt rengjort hjerte.

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I'll share with you what my my father said many
times.

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Jeg vil dele med dig vad min far sa mange ganger.

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He said I love everybody.

Speaker 3 (43:19):
Han sa jeg elsker alle.

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And everybody loves me.

Speaker 3 (43:23):
Og alle elsker mig.

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And it and everybody loves me.

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And it doesn't matter to me what they say about me.
So give us holiness of heart,and then give us outward
holiness when women do not cuttheir hair, where men get a

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haircut, where men shave.

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We teach a standard of sleeves below the elbows,
dresses below the knees.

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High neck collars on men and ladies.

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We teach us a standard of separation from this
world and the sports world.

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Og vi snakker også om , at man tar avstand fra verden,
og ikke minst sportsverden.

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We don't go to the ball games, we don't listen to
the ball games.

Speaker 3 (45:05):
We don't listen to the ball games.

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A separation from this world.
And when we make thisseparation, let me say this I
was told that if you did this,that you certainly could not
grow, but we found it to beabsolutely opposite from what

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they were telling us.
When people understand this andit's preached with love and
sincerity, and brokenness andtears- and tears.

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It resonates with them.

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That's the key for it to resonate in the hearts of
people that are hearing it.
I can't tell you the times Ipreached on Sunday morning and

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depend on the Scripture inIsaiah.

Speaker 3 (46:43):
And depend on the scripture in Isaiah.

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It talks about.
There'd be a word behind you ora voice behind you saying this
is the way, walking in the wayAt the moment.

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it's painful and it's a burden to carry when you're
trying to reshape the mindset ofoneself and of other men and
women.

Speaker 2 (47:25):
But I can tell you the reward and the blessing of
people separating from sin.
You cannot believe what Goddoes in their life.

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But the blessings that are the result of this.
I have no word for what God canreally do in these people's
lives.
The blessings of God flow everyway.

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Financially.

Speaker 3 (47:59):
Financially In the natural.

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In the natural and certainly in the spiritual.
So I'm just happy to share myheart with you today.
I see our time is just about up.
I see our time is just about upand I will give you what I know
for points in building a churchor the kingdom of God.

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The first one, of course, isprayer you keep.

Speaker 3 (48:43):
The first one, of course, is prayer People will
not listen to the Word of Goduntil you get them started
praying, yes.
So point number one is prayer.
You will not let people hearbefore you have this under
control.
Prayer must be prioritized.

Speaker 2 (49:02):
And making that sacrifice of not eating at least
one day a week, and rememberwhen you've done that for a year
, you've given up 52 days ofeating of eating.

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The second thing is one of themost powerful tools, and that's
the power of love and lovingpeople.

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Yes.

Speaker 2 (49:44):
I couldn't overemphasize that one point.

Speaker 3 (49:52):
People know when they're loved.

Speaker 2 (49:59):
And then the third one is just plain old work.
It's reaching people.
The fourth one is aspirit-filled teaching ministry.
Too many times, I think, whenpeople think of teaching they

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think of something that is,they're legislating dry, uh
trying to force people intodoing something.

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But we know that I don't care if it's on a Tuesday
night or a Sunday morning it'sgot to be spiritual and anointed

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to reach the heart I'll closewith this.

Speaker 2 (51:24):
In Numbers, the 12th chapter, Miriam and Aaron, the
Bible said they spake againstMoses.

Speaker 3 (51:31):
Well, I'll end with this.
In the 4th chapter of the.

Speaker 2 (51:38):
Bible, they said have the Lord indeed spoken only by
Moses, Could you?

Speaker 3 (51:45):
repeat the chapter please.

Speaker 2 (51:48):
I'm just going to give you high parts of it.
I'm not going to read it all.

Speaker 3 (51:53):
Okay.

Speaker 2 (51:54):
They said did God only speak through you?
Moses?

Speaker 3 (51:59):
Skulle Gud bare snakken om dig, Moses.

Speaker 2 (52:04):
I thought this was a long time after they had crossed
the Red Sea and Miriam had beatthe tambourine, I found out it
was only just a few months, ayear or so after her rejoicing

(52:27):
and praising God with thetemporary, now she's criticizing
Moses, and this is thechallenge I want to leave all of
you, ministers, with today withtoday.

Speaker 3 (52:55):
God told Aaron and Moses.

Speaker 2 (52:58):
He said I speak to some of prophets.
I speak to them through visionsand dreams to them through
visions and dreams.
But he said it's not so withMoses.
I speak to Moses, mouth tomouth.

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God gave me this the other day, the ultimate of
preaching and teaching.

Speaker 2 (53:43):
The word of the Lord is when God is bypassing your
brain.
That it's flowing to you andthrough you, things you have not
thought out of a commentary,but it's an unction of an

(54:21):
anointing that is flowingthrough you, and that's when God
is speaking through you mouthto mouth.
Now, that's the ultimate offeeding sheep of feeding sheep.

(54:53):
It's not your bend on it, it'snot your twist on it, it's not
what your culture is or howyou've been raised.
But it's flowing directly fromthe Holy Ghost through you to
the people and I promise youthat's when it resonates with

(55:23):
the people and they will followyou and turn their back on the
world and they will becompletely reshapen in God's

(55:44):
love.

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God bless all of you today.
Thank you, sir.

Speaker 1 (55:58):
Yes, sir, you're welcome.
Oh, praise God, what a powerfulword we've received here today,
and I have asked Pastor Andreasfrom Norway to close us with
whatever he feels in the HolyGhost today.

Speaker 4 (56:24):
Well, praise the Lord , I've been so blessed, as you
all have been blessed today.
I've been so blessed by hearingBishop Holmes teaching.
I've had a privilege of knowinghim for the last 23 years and,

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if there's anything, for thelast few years also.
You know I've looked to him asmy pastor and if there's
anything, that this great man ofGod has influenced me with the

(57:13):
love for prayer.

Speaker 3 (57:21):
And he has also influenced me with a passion of

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loving people.
I think something froze brother, or yes, sir, one minute I'm
getting.

Speaker 1 (58:13):
Brother andreas, I'm back right here yes, sir, we've
got you again.

Speaker 4 (58:24):
Okay, I'm sorry, well , I'm gonna.
I'm gonna close it up in prayer, but I just wanted to to thank
bishop palms one more time forthis wonderful teaching, and I'm
so humbled and so inspired bylistening to his teaching.
I want to emphasize one morething here today, and that is

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that this preaching of the crossand this preaching of holiness
the Bible says that thepreaching of the cross is
foolishness for the world, butit's a power unto salvation for

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us.

Speaker 3 (59:11):
It says that the preaching of the cross is a
power unto salvation for thosewho believe and those who want
to receive.

Speaker 4 (59:22):
Let me say this the preaching of the cross, that is
everything that has to do withholiness.

Speaker 3 (59:32):
To crucify this flesh .

Speaker 4 (59:36):
It will always be foolishness for them that are
perishing them.
That doesn't want to have thistruth, but for us, this is the
key to the power.
It's the power unto salvation.
What God dealt with me for someyears ago was that if you take

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the foolishness of the gospelaway, you also take the power
away from the gospel.
Churches and ministers today intheir hunger of being accepted
by the world they have lost thepower.

Speaker 3 (01:00:24):
I'd rather be foolish in the eyes of the world.
And wonderful message, lord.

Speaker 4 (01:00:27):
I thank you, lord, for the for the voice of truth

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that you've given us, Lord.
It is your love toward us thatyou let us hear this wonderful
truth.
It is your love revealed in ourlife, Lord, that you send great
men in our way to share thetruth with us, lord, because you
want to see us saved, lord.
I pray, Lord, for the ministersall across Europe.
Lord, I pray for every pastor,every preacher, every leader.
Lord, that a hunger for truthwill come into our hearts, lord

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and Lord, that you will let onour heart, lord, and on our
minds, lord, hallelujah, thelove and passion for prayer, the
love and passion for souls andthe love and passion for truth.
Lord, I pray in the name ofJesus.
Keep, lord, strengtheningBrother Robinette and his great
ministry.

Speaker 2 (01:01:33):
Lord I pray.

Speaker 4 (01:01:34):
Lord, that your anointing will keep flowing in
his life, in his family's life.
Lord, in the name of Jesus, Ipray.
Lord, let there be revival ofholiness, let there be revival
of prayer.
Let there be revival, lordhallelujah, of loving people,
loving souls, lord hallelujahholiness into your image, into

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your mind.
Lord hallelujah, until yourname is shining through us, lord
, like ever before.
In the name of Jesus Christ.
In the name of Jesus Christ.

Speaker 2 (01:02:14):
Hallelujah, hallelujah.

Speaker 4 (01:02:21):
I pray, lord hallelujah, that you will revive
.
Lord hallelujah, every youthleader.
Lord hallelujah, every worshipleader.
Lord hallelujah, every Sundayschool teacher.
In the name of Jesus.
In the name of Jesus, thank you, lord, for your love.
We place, lord, this great workinto your hands.
Lord, in the name of Jesus.
In Jesus' name, amen, amen,amen, hallelujah, hallelujah.

Speaker 1 (01:02:44):
Hallelujah, hallelujah, hallelujah,
hallelujah, hallelujah, ohhallelujah, praise God.
Thank you, bishop Holmes, thankyou, brother Andreas, and both

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of you for just speaking heretoday and just releasing what
does say at the Lord.

Speaker 3 (01:03:14):
And thank you, Bishop Holmes, and thank you, Pastor
Andreas, for everything you haveshared today and everything
that has been solved in relationto everything you have done and
served me today.

Speaker 1 (01:03:24):
I know that you both know how much we love your
families and the works, that youboth know how much.

Speaker 3 (01:03:32):
We love your families and the works that you
represent.

Speaker 1 (01:03:39):
But I want to say I love Brother Andreas and his
family, the great work they aredoing in Norway and beyond, the
influence, the kingdom influencethat God has given them all
across Europe and beyond.

Speaker 3 (01:04:21):
The example that they set in Norway for just holiness
and love for the truth and lovefor people.

Speaker 1 (01:04:31):
Good to have good friends, but it's better to have
apostolic friends, and I lovethe apostolic friends that God
has given me, and these twogreat men of God and their

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families are my apostolicfriends and I'd stand on any
hill with them, that's for sure.
But I'm so thankful forapostolic mentoring.
I'm so thankful, brother Tron,you did such a wonderful job
today.
I honor you and your family aswell.

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Thank you all for being onApostolic Mentoring today.
Thank you to everybody who'swatching live on Facebook and
YouTube.

Speaker 3 (01:05:37):
We love you all dearly.

Speaker 1 (01:05:41):
Please help us share this episode and get it out to
the world.
Do what you always do Takeyourselves off mute.
Say goodbye Auf.

Speaker 3 (01:05:53):
Wiedersehen.

Speaker 1 (01:05:58):
Auf Wiedersehen.
I love you, my Austrian friend.
Good to see you.

Speaker 4 (01:06:03):
Goodbye, everybody.

Speaker 1 (01:06:06):
Thank you, brother Holmes.
Thank you, brother Holmes, godbless you.

Speaker 2 (01:06:09):
Thank you, bishop Holmes, god bless you, god bless
you, God bless you, god blessyou.

Speaker 1 (01:06:19):
God bless you.

Speaker 3 (01:06:21):
God bless you.

Speaker 2 (01:06:23):
God bless you all God bless you, Brother Oti.

Speaker 1 (01:06:26):
Hallelujah.

Speaker 2 (01:06:28):
Thank you for a kind words.
God bless you.
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