December 30, 2024 • 50 mins
Welcome back yall to the final interview of season 1 with Around The Loop Podcast for 2024. With a sneak peek of Lil Mama By Cam 14K .Very blessed to have Clint with Double Tap Live on todays final interview of the year and we will take a deep dive into the personal life of Clint Grant and why he created Double Tap Live. Also we will discuss about his short horror film which the link will be here: https://youtu.be/Blv6tx8yND4?si=qrOzFAFcu4HULfYm
Make sure yall take the time to check out his amazing talent out here on his personal website: https://www.doubletaplive.com/?fbclid=PAZXh0bgNhZW0CMTEAAaagX-Yhyd09j01neS6d6s73DIorighLe1V0S8rYM8Wd7Uo2flnIH42g4kw_aem_G9Snzjfz-6AdbKFDZsjqfg
Also make sure to check him out on instagram too : https://www.instagram.com/doubletaplive/profilecard/?igsh=NTc4MTIwNjQ2YQ==
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Alright y'all, welcome to an amazing episode of Around the Loop.
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Now this episode is like no other and I say that a lot but this one I really mean it.
Reason being it's actually the last interview of the year, last interview of season 1 and
what you know, great way not to end this year with a bang.
So I'm very honored, very glad that I have Clint today with Double Tap Live and very
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blessed to have him today on the show.
So thank you very much for being on the episode of Around the Loop, really appreciate that.
And tell the world a little bit about yourself.
Yeah, so first of all I appreciate you having me on, it's been pretty cool what you've
been doing.
I've been checking out your Instagram and anything that's related to helping out us
creatives is a huge thing.
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Just giving people a voice too in a platform.
So shout out to you.
Oh thank you.
So yeah, I own a creative platform called Double Tap Live, the website is doubletaplive.com.
We do music videos, live shows, podcasts, short films.
So pretty much just yeah, we're out of Oceanside, California, it started in 2020.
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Yeah, just anything creative really.
I've done a lot of videos and music videos but it expands outside of that.
So I actually wanted to ask you, what was actually, just to give the folks of Around
the Loop a little taste about who you are, a little background about who you are first
before we jump into where you're at now.
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I wanted to ask you, how was your upcoming, how was your childhood?
To let the world know a little bit about who you are, personal side about you, if you don't
mind sharing, it's totally up to you.
Yeah, let's get into it.
So I think a big part of my childhood or growing up was baseball actually.
So that was pretty much my whole life up until I graduated high school was playing baseball.
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So I think that helped a lot with adversity and overcoming a lot of challenges.
And baseball is a game of failure especially.
And in the music industry or production business, you face a lot of challenges, adversity, a
lot of failure.
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So I think that was huge as far as teaching me how to deal with it and overcome challenges.
Okay, okay.
So wow, and I wanted to ask, okay, so are you native here from Oceanside, Carlsbad, around
the area or did you move from somewhere else?
Yeah.
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How was that?
Yeah, born and raised in Oceanside.
So went to El Camino High School actually.
Yeah, I lived here my whole life and then after high school I moved to New Mexico actually.
Oh wow.
So Las Cruces, New Mexico.
How is that?
Very different.
No beach, it's like deserty.
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There's not a lot as far as like outside.
So I lived in Las Cruces, the population is like a hundred thousand.
Which is very big for New Mexico.
So I went there for school and then I actually worked at a radio station out there.
So that's how I got introduced into the whole music scene a little bit through the radio
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station and then you know I wanted to expand it and start my own thing and that's why I
started what I did.
Now that's amazing.
How did you come up with the name Double Tap Live?
Where's that inspiration came from?
Just curious.
Yeah, so actually Shay, my buddy Shay, he helps out with a lot of projects equipment-wise.
He helped me come up with that name.
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I feel like we live in a world where everything is social media.
Everything is double tapping on your phone, likes and we're transitioning to an age where
everything is technology.
Everyone is drawn into their phone.
So really just wanted to create something where we bring that to life and kind of separate
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the social media to the real life of the music scene and not making it all about your phone
but doing things in person and having that experience in person.
So is this something you started, was it something you were doing when you were younger too?
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Was there any exposure to this when you were younger?
Did you do anything from YouTube channels or any videography or this is just like how
does that inspiration come from?
A lot of it is from, I feel like baseball actually.
Growing up baseball, you listen to music, you listen to, I grew up listening to a lot
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of hip hop actually.
Okay, that's neat.
You know, some like straight out of Compton, like old school hip hop and I feel like baseball
you have to have confidence because it is such a game of failure and so I grew up listening
to hip hop and funny enough I'm actually Hispanic.
I don't look like it but you know, the music in Hispanic culture is very different also
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so I just grew up around music a lot and you know how it is, you like to party, dance and
immerse yourself into it.
How's the culture with you on your side?
Are you more, do you know more about your family roots or do you know a little bit about
it or somewhat?
Have you ever been out to Mexico or whatever the case is?
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I went to Mexico for the first time this year actually so not much before I started this.
But yeah, just you know, just growing up baseball and music, that's how I got introduced into
music and became a fan of music.
I have also liked films, just watching movies and stuff.
So I just wanted to find a way to involve myself in the music industry and I think the
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best way to do that was through like recording video actually so that was a huge part of
it.
And so when it came to doing that, like when you and your buddy got to it and got together
with coming up with this idea, like what was, do you remember the day where you locked in
and you were like, you know what, this is what I want to do, this is what we should
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do, you know we're all in on this.
Do you remember that day or can you tell us a little bit about that or how this came about
where you guys really got together and you said, this we're going to take it serious.
Yeah.
And you know, move forward.
I don't know if there was an exact moment, but I feel like in 2020, which I feel like
a lot of people started things in 2020, I was working at the radio station and then
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came home during the pandemic and was like not doing anything at all.
And I just always wanted to start something and radio station introduced me to that scene,
but I wanted to do more for it.
So then when I came home, I would just think about different ideas and I wanted people
in Oceanside to have a platform because it's always LA or San Diego, more so LA where people
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go to.
It is, it's true.
So I wanted to have artists or people have the opportunity here in Oceanside.
And I believe Oceanside is honestly a beautiful like midway point for between San Diego and
LA.
Yeah.
And honestly, that's exactly why when I started the podcast too, I started to tell my ladies
cousin out and that's where the inspiration came from.
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And from there, I just kept going and going and I was like, well, why not try to get back
to the city I grew up in, Oceanside and share the town.
There's so much talent from comedians to artists to producers to there's a lot here.
There's so much.
Yeah.
So much.
And I'm excited for season two for this upcoming year.
Like there's a lot coming for you guys and yeah, just stay in tune for that.
Stay in tune for that.
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So it's going to be neat.
And I wanted to ask you, you know, like let's talk a little bit about your short film, Headstock,
the horror film that you just recently released.
Cause I actually took the time to watch it and you guys, I'm going to put the link in
the bio so you guys can watch it because it's hands down.
It's really nice.
I loved it.
I loved it.
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It was great.
I appreciate that.
Yeah.
So this was the first narrative short film that I've done.
I've done music videos since 2020 and it's been constant music videos and I really immersed
myself in the scene of music videos.
And I'm going to tell the whole story how to get to the short film.
But pretty much.
Let's backtrack to the music and let's go there first before we get to this then.
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So who was your first artist actually that you worked with?
So it was this guy in Albuquerque, New Mexico actually.
We found this guy on TikTok.
He was doing pretty well.
So I reached out to him.
He agreed.
That's cool.
Woke up at like six in the morning, drove three hours to Albuquerque, shot the video,
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drove back, edited it, finished it, put it out like the next day.
Holy shit.
I got like, you know, 2000 views the next day.
That was my first like music video that I did.
And then ever since then, I just took off with working with people here actually because
did one music video there, came here and then worked with different artists out here.
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So with all these music videos, I've even done artists or worked with artists in LA.
I've been privileged to work with Grammy nominated, Grammy award winning artist on a music video.
We did like a Tiny Desk.
Like, you know, have you seen Tiny Desk?
Of course I have.
It was like that style.
Really?
In his Hollywood living room.
And how did that, honestly, how was that feeling?
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Because I can only imagine you just being there.
What, so surreal or how was it?
Yeah, it was pretty cool.
So the reason why I met him was I did a music video in LA, sent him the work, not really
thinking anything of it.
Okay.
And then I'm having a Grammy nomination party, like come out for it.
So he was an engineer for Kanye's Donda.
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So he did that.
Okay.
So I went to the nomination party and met all these cool people.
And then a year later, we actually ended up doing like the Tiny Desk style video.
And so that was like a pretty big project.
You know, it was really cool doing that.
And then, yeah, I just worked with a lot of people here in Oceanside, San Diego.
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Yeah, I feel like working on all these films, sometimes people get lost in their craft a
lot.
Let's talk about that a little bit.
Yeah.
So I've worked with people where they like kind of become a little crazy with what they're
doing.
They become so obsessed with their work that it takes away like the human aspect to them
a little bit.
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So if you could describe that a little bit more for the audience, like, because some
of them, you know, I have folks from all over the world.
Yeah.
And, you know, for some of the audience that are on the other side of the world, like to
describe it so they get a better understanding too.
What do you mean by that?
Like getting so lost in it and stuff like that.
So what are like some of the signs or what are some of the characteristics that are,
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you know, show?
Yeah.
I feel like it's what we see on TV and TikTok and with these celebrities too, where a lot
of people talking about like selling their soul.
I have heard of that.
You know, I know it's like a, it's just like a phrase or whatever, but people become so
obsessed and they want to succeed and become famous so bad that they lose touch of who
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they once were.
I see.
Okay.
So, you know, that type of thing and, you know, staying up all night and just like,
oh, we need to get this video done.
You know, they become kind of crazy while doing it.
So the reason why I'm talking about all this is that's what sparked the idea for Headstock.
Okay.
And that's because it was about, it was about a videographer who became crazy and worked
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with this girl who plays a guitar.
She's a musician.
So he got so obsessed with his videography craft that it consumed him and he ended up
capturing that girl.
And that was the dinner that was being cooked.
Yeah, that was phenomenal.
And I was just watching them in the craft, the attention to detail, like how long did
it actually take you to film that?
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Let's talk a little bit about the process behind that, behind Headstock.
How was that?
So I wrote the script in February of this year, actually.
Okay, okay.
It was a 12 page script and I wrote the script and then I casted.
So I casted actors from here in San Diego.
Oh, that's cool.
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So I, you know, I, it was like through this website or whatever, and I would like kind
of interview people and be with these actors and I chose who I wanted for the film.
Then once we did that, I've had different podcasts and meetings with actors to get familiar
with them.
And I feel like that's really important with who I work with is making sure that they're
comfortable with me and I'm comfortable with them.
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That's cool.
I think that's a huge part of it.
A lot of people just work and they don't even get to know the person, you know, but which
is cool.
I like to get to know the people that I'm working with because it's my videos and I
take a lot of pride in it.
So casted for about a month, found the people and then just selected some dates and we did
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it in about two days.
So the living room shots was one day.
The girl with the guitar, that was one day.
And then I did a lot of B-roll shots outside of that, just on my own free time.
I was paying attention to that and the attention and detail to the video, it was so keen because
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it's like all the different angles.
Yeah, it's so captivating.
Even my lady this morning, she was getting ready for her little breakfast that she was
meeting with her friend and she got distracted too heavily.
She just got distracted into the video and stuff.
And I loved it and I'm definitely going to put it on the bio for everybody to watch.
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Make sure you guys go out there, show some love and support, make sure you watch it.
It's phenomenal.
And do you have, okay, so have you won any awards from this so you can let the people
know?
Yeah, so submitted it to different festivals.
I was selected for NDX, it's a festival in LA.
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I got nominated for an award but they're not going to have their screening until next year
actually, next spring.
So I won't find out which award it is yet.
But I got selected, nominated for that and then I was selected for a short film in Atlanta,
Georgia, which I got back about a couple months ago from that one.
So that one was pretty cool.
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Let's talk about that.
Was that your first time in Atlanta, Georgia?
It was.
First time in the South.
How was that experience for you?
Waffle House is pretty good.
It's 10 out of 10.
I was stationed out there in the East Coast when I was in the service and I was in North
Carolina.
So, yeah, Waffle House is 10 out of 10.
Even though it's at 2 a.m.
It's pretty good.
Amazing, I wish they had one here.
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Yeah, first time out there.
That was a very unique experience.
I got invited out there.
The venue was like a small theater, kind of in some random neighborhood.
There was like a couple horses outside actually, so it was very unique.
So that was a really cool experience just to be invited for that.
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I got to speak in front of the theater and the crowd too.
Oh wow.
Yeah, that was pretty cool.
And how was that for being in front of everybody?
How was that feeling?
Do you do a lot of public speaking or is it something that took a while for you to get
there?
I don't really do a lot of public speaking.
I've done different podcasts and things of that nature.
I feel like when I talk about the things I'm very passionate about, it's easy.
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If I were to talk about some random class assignment or something I don't really care
about, then I don't like it.
But if I'm talking about something that I love, then I can talk about it for hours.
Okay.
I appreciate that.
And so as far as this film, is there another one up in the works that you plan to do soon?
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Or do you plan to actually do a full movie?
Yeah.
That's cool.
Definitely thinking about some other projects.
Yeah, different short films for sure I want to get into.
Probably not going to get into the details of it.
Yeah.
So everybody's got to wait for that.
It's worth it.
Yeah.
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I definitely want to.
I'm looking to do something very soon actually.
Nice.
So beginning of next year hopefully.
Okay.
And any other music artists or any music videos you're doing sometime soon or any honorable
mentions that you want to mention?
Did a music video this morning actually, so that was cool.
Oh, wow.
You can expect that pretty soon.
Yeah, I was just trying to work with different artists in San Diego.
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So if you're an artist in San Diego, feel free to hit me up.
How's that process just to reach out to you?
For people that are curious.
Really I would say the easiest way to contact me is follow the Instagram, double tap live
and just reach out.
Okay.
Yeah, there's no really specific.
A lot of the videos I do with now are actually word of mouth, which I'm very grateful that
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people just recommend and suggest, shout out Cam 14K.
If it wasn't for him, I wouldn't be here actually doing this.
How did that happen with you guys?
So with him, honestly, okay, it actually goes back to shout out to Balance.
So it was actually Balance that got me introduced to Cam 14K.
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And I was actually, he was telling me, he's like, you know, you should meet him.
You should hit him up.
So I reached out to him and he was like, yeah, I'm all about it.
Let's do it.
And he was like, I'll hit you up when I'm in Oceanside or I'm back in town.
Cause he was out of town for a little bit.
And I was like, all right, well, you know, yeah, let's set that up.
And I was on my way to Vegas and he so happened to be in the area.
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So we actually shot our first episode over there.
And that's always, we just kept in touch.
And for a while he mentioned about you.
He was always talking about you and stuff.
And actually he was showing me the music videos that you guys shot together and everything.
And, no, the attention to detail is, man, you definitely need more exposure.
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You definitely need your flywheel for that.
Cause that was, you do an amazing job.
Especially with all your music videos, with all your different artists and stuff.
It's phenomenal.
It's phenomenal.
And I can imagine how much work you put into that.
Oh yeah.
That means a lot.
So thank you.
I appreciate that.
So how's your friendship relationship with Cam 14K?
Let's talk about that.
Yeah.
So we've been working for a very long time.
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He was like the second Oceanside artist that I've worked with in 2021 or whatever it was.
So it's been, it's been a, we've done a lot.
We've been locked in.
I feel like our visions align.
He's always down to work and he's very consistent with it.
Which is what I like to have someone that is consistent.
And he gives me my creative freedom, which I really appreciate also.
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He pretty much just sends me the songs and is like, Hey, do whatever you want with it.
And that works out very well.
I've had artists where they have their own ideas and I can do that.
I like doing that.
Yeah.
But also I like to expand and kind of take control of the ideas and shoot it by him and
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see what he thinks.
And he likes it.
So yeah.
So it's not like something you just, you automatically do what you want and then you're like, all
right, cool.
Just without running it.
And that's really, that's really neat that you know, you do that as a, as a business
owner too, and a professional at what you do at your craft.
You know, it is, it is important to be able to show that, Hey, what do you think about
this?
And if they're like, Hey, you know, I love it.
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Let's rock it.
Let's roll.
Then let's do it.
And you know, the creativity, how do you, what inspires you with that creativity?
Where do you get your, it's just like little things or what?
Yeah.
I mean, I take bits and pieces from other, other things, but I don't, I like to do a
lot of just from what comes from my mind.
I would like to be as different as possible.
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And I know that's pretty cliche.
I feel like everyone's trying to be different, but I'm not understandable, but I get you.
I get it.
I get it.
I'm not afraid to just like do something that's sounds horrible and just like try it.
And if it's horrible, then it sucks.
But like I, I have the idea and I like to just kind of do things that no one has really
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thought about.
And you know, a lot of the energy that we do in our videos is like actually live on
the spot.
We've done shows and we're doing music videos in the middle of a show.
And I feel like that's pretty cool because it's like, the energy is very like raw and
you know, natural.
So I think that's, I like to do that too.
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That's really neat.
And I love seeing that.
I paid attention to, wow, you had a number of different artists on there, which is really
neat.
And you know, is there any other upcoming folks that, or anybody that you would love
to actually work with in the future, or any, anybody in your field too that you would actually
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like collaborate with or what, what, you know, what can you let the people know?
Yeah.
No one specific comes to mind.
I'm open to working with anyone.
Okay.
One thing that I'm looking forward to doing though is colliding both the music videos
with the short films and getting the artists that make music involved with my short films
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and kind of having the film world that I know and the music video world come together and
people that make music help out with the films and filmmakers could get music from them and
everyone just work together.
So do you have any artists of mine that you would want to attempt to at least have for
that, you know, to do a short film with?
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There's a few artists in mind.
I'm probably not going to say names right now, but yeah, there's definitely a few where,
you know, or really anyone local that is from Oceanside or San Diego, I'm really open to
working including them in the short films that I do.
I'm definitely going to have to send you, I have a handful of people that are definitely
worth your time as well and they have phenomenal talent, phenomenal talent.
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So it's definitely worth.
For sure.
So I know I appreciate that.
And then I wanted to ask other, you know, a couple of little personal questions.
Is there any favorite foods, any places that you like to go eat around, any local places?
Getting to the nitty gritty right now.
Yeah, that's good.
Some foods?
Yeah.
Geez, can't go wrong with some good old Mexican food.
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Okay.
What's good?
Because I know there's a list that you're going to make go on and on.
Some good food.
It's going to be Bourbon Brew.
Okay.
I'm just, I'm picking from the crowd right here.
Yeah, no, and it's all Gucci.
There's a place that's Shake Shack actually by an Orange County.
It's not the Shake Shack that you're thinking of.
No, it's a separate one.
Separate one.
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That's very good.
Very good.
I have to definitely check it out.
Yeah.
What about you?
Oh me?
Wow.
That's actually a great question.
I usually go from anywhere like Birria Tacos.
I'm easy to go to like Carnesal Tacos too or Mexican food as well.
Can't go wrong with Chinese food as well.
Yeah.
Just love that too.
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I just like food.
Yeah.
Honestly, foodie in general.
I like some water.
Stay hydrated.
No, it's important to drink your water because I mean a lot of people be out passing out
or having that dry skin.
Drink your water.
Yeah.
That's important.
Yeah.
So, you know, is there any, from music artists that inspired you to who you are today, you
know, you mentioned NWA.
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Is there any other folks, any honorable mentions that shaped you who you are today?
Honestly, I like Travis Scott.
And the reason for that is the energy that he gives off.
And I try to do the same with my music videos as far as the experience.
So a lot of people like his music because of the experience they feel during his concerts
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in the live shows.
And that goes with anything.
Like you like certain things because of how it makes you feel.
True.
So that's why when I do these short films with actors, I have podcasts with them.
I have meetings with them.
Like I'll go to lunch with them.
And on set is a very fun environment.
Like we're working, but it's also about the experience and how they're feeling.
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And also the people watching it feed off of that too.
Like the actors are very comfortable with each other.
The music videos.
I've said this before to plenty of people, but if you ask me for a burrito, you know,
I'm not going to just give you the burrito.
I'm going to give you a nice plate.
I'm going to give you a nice four seat table.
And I feel like I try to do the same with all my music videos and work where you ask
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me for one idea and I'm going to expand on it and give you more than what you asked for.
Oh, that's phenomenal.
And I think like if you go to a Travis Scott show, it's not just the music that he's performing.
It's the lights, it's the fireworks, it's everything around it.
There's a lot.
So I think I like to feed off of those.
Have you been to a Travis Scott concert?
Have you had the opportunity?
I have not.
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I haven't either yet, but I'm looking forward to it one day.
I've only been to one concert.
It was Jack Harlow.
Really?
No way.
That wasn't my idea.
No, that's pretty cool though.
I had the chance to see Juice WRLD and Ski Mask when they were touring together.
How was that?
It was phenomenal.
It was an experience like no other.
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I was honestly blessed to be able to see that because that's one of one kind of experience.
I want to be able to see that again.
I don't know.
I'm just a fan of music.
I can listen to Frank Sinatra one day and I can listen to Travis Scott another day.
I just like the music and I'm a big fan of instrumentals too.
I will listen to movie soundtracks or Interstellar, Hans Zimmer.
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I'm a big fan of the whole composure of music also.
Have you actually seen any live performances like that?
I know he does it.
He's been doing it recently, but I haven't.
That would be cool.
That would be pretty neat.
I would start a GoFundMe.
Definitely should.
Put me in the concerts.
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That would be cool.
I'll take a video of Hans Zimmer and do all that.
Is there any films or any movies that you personally like that you would like to share
out there?
Any personal ones?
Yeah, I'm a fan of Tarantino's movies.
I like a lot of his work.
Pulp Fiction, Killbills.
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I also like horror, thriller, like Midsummer Hereditary.
I'm a big fan of those.
I don't know if you've seen those.
I've seen the Midsummer.
I just like psychological also.
Make you think about what I'm doing.
In the movie or the film Headstock, there's a lot of Easter eggs that you could interpret
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it in different ways.
That's something I like to do.
You could think about different scenarios of what happens.
I was actually going to ask you about that because I was paying attention and I was like,
okay, I've noticed this and that.
I'm not going to ruin the surprise because definitely people need to go and watch this.
It's good that you gave the hint that there are Easter eggs out there.
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Make sure you pay close attention to that.
I wanted to ask you also about your poster back here as well.
I always just have a music video with the QR code for the folks who scan.
I'll ask you to take post pictures about it as well.
How did you come up with that?
That one, you actually scan it and it's a video of Cam's music.
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So shout out Cam again.
That's his music video.
We did that at Sunset Market.
Funny story about that one.
That one's doing pretty good.
It has over 10,000 views, which is pretty cool, but who's keeping count?
So that one was pretty cool because we flew a drone over the crowd.
So that picture is actually a part of the music video.
Oh, that's amazing.
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And then I wore a GoPro during it.
So we were walking through the crowd shooting with everyone involved.
So you don't know what's going to happen.
There could be someone just messing with the video or doing whatever.
So we were just walking through that crowd just doing the music video, which is pretty
cool.
Did you have any problems when that happened or it was just like you were lucky?
Not really.
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Just people kind of looking at us like kind of weird stares, but I don't really care about
that.
No, it's the same thing, especially when I'm like, same thing when sometimes I'll pull
out my drone too and I'll be flying it as well and people are just staring and they're
just like, whatever, it is what it is.
So people ask too, they'll be nosy.
They'll be like, oh, hey, you got a license for that?
You got a certification?
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I'm like, I got my paperwork right here.
Yeah.
I know I like that.
There's a music video we did also in Gaslamp where we pulled up in a limo and then he went
to perform at a club.
We came out the club and then did the music video outside and people were looking and
we are blasting one of the songs called or music videos called cocaine cowboys and we're
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just blasting it in Gaslamp and people were just like taking their phones out recording
and that was like in the music video too.
Yeah, I saw that.
And that's, you know, that's, I play that song a lot actually.
Cocaine Cowboys.
Yeah, Cocaine Cowboys.
It's phenomenal.
How did you come up with the inspiration for that?
For that music video?
What inspired you for that?
That was actually pretty dope.
It really matched.
It matched really well with everything.
Yeah.
I'm trying to think of what made us come up with that idea.
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I mean, I don't really have a...
You can just roll with it.
I just remember it being as thematic as possible.
That was the one video where we were like, you know, we're going to try to shoot this
as if it's a movie.
At least the first one.
It was pretty dope.
Yeah.
So I want to...
If you can reiterate that.
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Yeah.
So yeah, just shoot it like a movie doing different parts as if it were a short film
actually because before the music video actually starts, there's like a good three minutes
to the video that is before the music video.
So like leading up to that.
Yeah, I was watching that and that was pretty nice.
So you said that was your first one?
Did you ever did or is that like the second one or...
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No, it was probably...
I've done a good amount before that.
So yeah, that was like the first one where it was like short film style music video.
Yeah, so I want to do more of those two where there's like a story leading up to the music
video.
Okay.
Sounds like there's going to be some future projects in the works then.
I might know some.
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That's neat, but I'm not going to spill the beans on that.
That's cool.
And then like I've said before, I really appreciate coming out here, taking your time because
I mean, busy man, I understand you're a man of many hats.
You're doing this and got a lot going on as well.
And I appreciate all the love and support too as well.
Like I said, my mission is to show the love and support of Oceanside to show the talent
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and from Oceanside or Carlos back down in San Diego, just in LA.
And there's more phenomenal people coming our way and stuff like that.
So is there any advice you can give to any people that want to jump into this field or
even thought about going into this field?
Is there any tips, advice, and score?
What do you recommend for some people?
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I actually didn't go to school for this.
It was interesting, but I would say if you want to do it, don't be afraid to reach out
to people.
That's kind of what I did starting out.
That's cool.
I mean, that's how we came into contact.
It's true.
But like just, I would just say start, reach out to people, say, hey, I want to work on
this.
And even if you don't have the equipment or don't really know what you're doing, just
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do it.
True.
Because my first music video was horrible.
And the more you do it, the more you'll learn.
And that's what I did.
I just kept on doing it.
I didn't really care about anything else except doing it over and over.
It's your perfect craft.
Yeah.
And the more you do it, the better you're going to get.
So I would just say just start.
And you'll meet people along the way that will help and everything.
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And honestly, it's really phenomenal.
The people that you meet, the doors that open up and the opportunities that just come out
of it, it's phenomenal.
And I mean, is there any good experiences or any phenomenal or honorable mentions that
you want to throw out there that like, oh, I met so and so and there are the reasons
why I met so and so or because of them.
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For me, if it wasn't for Balance, I wouldn't have met a lot of the people.
My brother introduced me to Balance and I reached out to Balance too with the help of
my brother as well.
We set the first episode there and he was actually my kickstart for my podcast interviews
with artists and stuff.
And from there, we built that connection and he sent me a list of people and I just started
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reaching out to them one by one, knocking episodes.
There was a point where I was doing two episodes a day.
Just knocking them out, trying to get as much film as I could.
That was good.
So it was great.
And it's honestly a phenomenal experience to share that talent with the world and meet
all these people.
What's like the end goal for you with this?
So for me, honestly, the end goal is to be able to finally quit my day job.
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That's the one end goal is to quit my day job to be able to finally put an end to it.
Not actually quit it, but I guess put a pause to it because I mean, what I do in the day,
I do, I'm a little bit of a technician, so I do anywhere from audio visual to I'll hang
up TVs, I'll do camera installs, I'll do security system installs, pull data for the walls,
fiber, you name it, I do all that.
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And one day I want to be able to just put a pause to it and not have to break my back
no more with pulling all the cable, coming home like, oh, I'm really exhausted from doing
all this all day, busting my ass for that.
I want to be able to work smarter, not harder.
And then I got into this podcast field and love it.
And my end goal with it is to be able to take care of my debt that I have first before I
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go and jump the gun.
Oh, I'm going to go help so and so because everybody wants to do that right away, but
you got to be able to take care of yourself first before you can take care of others.
Water your own grass first.
True.
Yeah.
No, true.
And I love that quote.
That's great, honestly.
And for me, it's to continue to just share the talent with everybody.
And one day, I mean, even if I meet more bigger celebrities, that'd be the goal.
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The goal is to continue to keep going and going and never stop and build that generational
well for me, my young ones and for the folks around that I live with too.
And it's important.
It is important and to share it.
There's so much talent, so much voice.
And props to you for doing this while you have your other job too.
Thank you.
That's pretty hard.
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And I feel like people don't really understand the work that you're putting into it.
It is a lot, man.
And it's crazy that you say that because like, now that I think about it, it's a full-time
job.
It's a full-time job that doesn't pay a fortune.
Right now that I started, it doesn't pay, but it will one day.
And I'm looking forward to that with the sponsorship opportunities if that happens or...
And that's to cut you off.
No, you're good.
Really quick.
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But a lot of people, one advice I would give to people too is they look for the money right
away and you got to understand when you're starting out, you got to do it for free.
That's just what it's got to be.
Even if you have another full-time job, do it at your job.
I did that on my other job.
They didn't know, but I would edit and do things at my job or right when I got home
and just do it for free and then the money will come later.
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A lot of people look reverse way.
Yeah.
They believe it's an overnight thing and it's not.
When the day that the money does come rolling in, my goal is to get back to the community,
get back to Oceanside and people into this field too because podcasting is for anyone
that wants to express their voice.
You don't have to be a professional at this.
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I wasn't a pro when I first started this.
I was terrible.
I have maybe 10 to 15 pilot episodes that I have in the bank that I've never released
and upgraded mics from little by little.
The quality gets better over time and it's just the experience to show the growth with
the audience.
That's the one thing that's really neat is show the world your growth and they see, oh
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wow, he started with this music video and now look at him now.
It's like, oh shit, that's really the same person.
Exactly.
I wanted to ask you, what about you?
Is there an end goal for you for all this?
Yeah.
Really, I just want to give myself a big enough platform where I can do music videos for whoever
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I would like and then just building up the short films to just be bigger and bigger productions
and projects.
There's not really a cap on what I want to do.
I'm open to doing anything creative.
That's cool.
Even if I were to start clothes one day or make a movie one day, I just want to be creative
and I think that's...
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Is there any film festivals that you want to attend to or that you're trying to get
on for the folks that don't know anything about them?
Film festivals that I would want to submit it to.
Or be part of.
Yeah.
Nothing really comes to mind as far as the names of them, but I just want to put my work
out there, submit it to whoever and whatever I can.
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I also want to help people and teach people how to work on projects and create a big enough
team with Double Tap Live where I could do that and just have a team behind me.
I already have a good little team.
That's pretty neat.
Expanding that and just pretty much working on whatever we want to work on.
I love that.
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I love that you got a total control of it.
You are your own boss on this, which is good with the help of others.
It is hard to do this all on your own.
It's hard to do a one man team.
I run the podcast as a one man team, but I do have help from Balan T. He does all my
cover arts for all my photos and stuff like that.
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From folks introducing me to other individuals like that.
I do get the little help like that and it's phenomenal.
Especially I do appreciate everybody's time.
Out of your day you come out here and meet me or I come out and meet you just to make
it comfortable.
My whole experience is raw, genuine.
People hear me stutter and that's the whole thing.
It builds that genuine connection with each other.
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It's a part of it.
It is.
It is.
Do you think you manifested this?
To be honest, I never imagined that.
I never imagined I would get myself on a microphone.
It's funny that you said that because I was talking to a friend of mine that back from
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high school.
He's been serving in the army ever since.
He was like, man, I knew you were always going to have something.
You were going to be on camera or you were going to be on video or something like that
because you always made everybody laugh.
You were always a funny person.
I never thought about it like that.
I've been working on being on camera as well, learning how to actually look at the camera
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because sometimes it catches me staring up at the ceiling.
I do that a lot.
I do it a lot.
I would have never imagined that it actually would get this far and meeting all these faces,
all these artists, all these talents.
Sometimes I still can't believe that it actually happened.
Even having this chance to be with you right now, just to be at this moment, it's phenomenal.
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I can say it's like one message I can say to people.
It's like nothing's impossible.
Anything's possible.
You just got to put your mind to it.
It's all in the mind.
It is.
It is.
I wanted to ask, as we come to almost an end, is there anything you would like to share
with the folks around the loop, with the audience, with the world?
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As far as Double Tap Live, there's a lot of new projects coming soon.
Short films, music videos, different podcasts.
Nice.
Always working on different things.
Just going back to why we're starting this, we can't lose touch of helping people, helping
creatives and putting Oceanside as a face for creativity.
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I think that's the huge thing.
It is.
It is one of the biggest missions here.
I'm really grateful for all the things that I've done with this.
It's pretty cool.
I have so many stories with all these music videos.
It's really cool and I'm really happy that I'm getting the chance to talk about it more.
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Have you ever been interviewed yourself?
I've seen you interview others, but have you been interviewed yourself?
Is this your first actual interview on you?
I've been interviewed on my own podcast from other people, but no, I don't think I've been
involved in-
This personal level, is it like-
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Yeah.
I think this is the first time.
I appreciate you opening up too because it takes a lot to be able to open up and just
share a little bit about yourself because that's where you show that you're vulnerable.
Your vulnerability with everybody and with the world, it is important.
It shows that genuine connection.
I wanted to ask you, is there, like you mentioned, some crazy stories, any good stories from
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music videos that you shot, is there any mentions that you do, any stories you want to throw
out there?
Really quick, I don't know how much time we have.
First, first-
Perfect.
Yeah, first video I did in LA was kind of a funny story.
This guy, he actually, someone, when I was living in New Mexico, I got introduced to
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this artist who lived in Kansas or St. Louis, whatever.
And then called this dude and was like, hey, we should work someday.
I don't know how because you're over there and I'm over here, whatever.
Got his information when I moved back during COVID, he reached out and he was like, I'm
in LA, let's work.
Okay.
I said, all right, let's work.
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So I drove to LA like the next day.
I didn't even know this guy really.
And that's the risk you got to take.
You just got to do stuff.
A lot of people are hesitant.
Like why would I drive out there with nothing guaranteed?
But I was like, let's just, I'm going to drive out there just to have a conversation with
this guy.
Drove out there.
We were supposed to just meet at like a Starbucks and talk about ideas.
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And he was like, you know what, come, come to my house or stay with his girlfriend at
the time and we'll try to get some shots in, or at least start thinking about an idea.
Okay.
It was very weird.
It was like South Central LA.
I pulled up to the house.
Oh, interesting.
Okay.
Right when I pulled up to the house, his girlfriend's family was having dinner.
You know, it was kind of interesting because I just met this guy for the first time.
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There were, I'm having dinner with this random family.
My first 20 minutes of meeting him.
And then he was like, hold on, I have this studio in LA.
Like we should try to do some shots tonight.
And I was like, all right, so let's do it.
We booked the studio, went to the, got to the studio and it was Justin Bieber's engineer
that actually was in the studio working with us.
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Oh shit.
And he did like Justin Bieber's old songs, like Never and all that.
So first time in LA, just randomly had dinner with this random family.
Went to the studio, met Justin Bieber's engineer.
And then like the next couple of days, he had a show.
He was like, oh, I'm performing in Hollywood.
Pull up.
So I had recorded at this, at the show.
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And then we went to Malibu, we went to Hollywood and this was just all like happening at the
same time.
And then, right, that was a big moment where after that video, I had a lot more opportunities
coming.
It would just be music video after music video.
There would be times where I'd drive to LA, get home at three in the morning, next day
do another video.
Just, just a lot of stuff like that.
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So that, I mean, that was, you know, pretty interesting and that was pretty cool.
Have you had any, any times where you were supposed to meet up with an individual or
it was like, you had this schedule out and they just didn't, they ghosted you.
Have you had that happen to you?
Cause it has happened to me for sure.
No, actually.
No one's, no one's ghosted me or just not showed up or not paid really.
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Everyone's been very good with their business.
This other time though, I was sleeping.
It was like 3 a.m.
I got like 30 missed calls.
Like that wasn't an exaggeration.
And I believe it.
From this guy, he was like, I need like $300.
Please send me the money.
Like I'm, this guy did a song with Tyga.
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He wants to do a song with me.
Please like help me.
He needs like studio time and we're going to work on this.
Blah, blah, blah.
Just stuff like that.
It's been a lot of weird moments where it's like, he called me like 30 times to try so
I can help him out.
And, you know, just like stories like that or I don't know.
Yeah, but no one's, no one's like ghosted me or anything.
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That's good.
Cause I've, you know, I've had it happen to me where, but a situation where I set it up
and interview with a local artist actually from San Diego, San Diego area.
We were locked in and everything.
I thought it was cool.
And the week of like I reached out to him just to make sure like, Hey, you know, you have
a location, everything, nothing.
The day of the interview, I see his Instagram and he's out in Vegas.
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I was like, Oh, that's crazy.
We're supposed to have an interview today in San Diego.
Yeah.
How you doing this?
But it's all love though.
It's still love.
And I'm not hating on nobody for, for, for this at all.
It's a learning experience too, because I mean, that story is for you to tell.
Like you wouldn't have that story unless that didn't happen.
Exactly.
And I mean, if the artist does see this, no, no hate to you at all.
It's all love.
And when you already just reach out back to me, I mean, we'll get it done.
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I'm not banning you from this at all.
No, it was just due to lack of communication on his end.
This is what happens.
It's a real, it's a real story.
It's the nitty gritty to it.
Yeah.
So, you know, I wanted to ask you is, you know, two, two questions before we start wrapping
it up with this.
So one question, if you were to see the younger version of yourself right in front of you,
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you know, what message do you have for the little version of you?
And it's alright, you can take some time to think about it because it is, it's a big question.
I probably would have told him he's complete failure.
Really?
In life.
What makes you say that?
Because then that would have pissed me off and I'll be like, no, you're wrong.
And then I'm gonna just go in and stuff.
Okay.
Yeah.
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No, that's honestly, and I like your answer on that because that's, that's very unique.
Everybody has such a different answer, but that's by far one of the most unique answers.
I would have bullied him so that he just like gets his, he just works hard, push him over.
No, and okay.
So then, and then one last message, one last question for the folks for, you know, around
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the loop and for the folks around the, around the world, what message do you have for people,
for the audience?
What's your message to the world?
What's your message to the audience?
It's a great question.
It's okay, you can, yeah, you can take, you can take some time to think about it because
it's not, it is, it is a deep question.
And it's okay if you think your answer might sound dumb, it's not, nothing, no answer is
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dumb, nothing's, whatever comes out of your heart, your soul, dude, that's all you.
I would just say whatever you're doing, go all out with it.
Don't just go crazy, go all out.
Don't half-ass anything.
When I was like the first, I had like two followers on Instagram and I was making like,
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videos or art and when I would sit down and make the video, I would act like the whole
world is going to see it.
And I was like, they're not because I have like two followers or whatever, but like every
single detail matters.
I see some people like, they post a video and it's like a screen recording on YouTube
of like the, like if I were to repost this and I just screen recorded it and you could
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see like all the videos below it, just of random videos, like at least crop it.
Yeah.
And you know, just like every detail just go all out and you never know who's going
to see it.
And that's something that I tell people also, you know, when I sent the video to the guy
in LA who worked with Kanye, I sent it and I took the risk and you don't know who is
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going to see this.
That's true.
Tomorrow when you, or whenever you post this podcast, someone huge could see it.
This one actually, I love this because this is going to be, since this is the final interview
episode of the year, we have this episode coming out.
Santa Claus is next.
That's the next interview which is pretty crazy.
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I actually like the interview.
That was fun.
That was very fun.
Did you ask him why I keep on seeing him at different malls all the time?
No, honestly, yeah, I wish I would have asked him.
It was more about like his personal life and I try to keep it best to his character.
I got character a little bit but you know, he had a great message though to share with
everybody and you know, his mission at Santa Claus and why he does what he does.
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So that was a phenomenal experience.
It was kind of nerve-wracking.
I had to ask Mrs. Claus for permission.
Oh wow.
Yeah, it was, and this lady like she plays the role so well.
Yeah, it got me nervous for a second.
I was like, oh, I'm really asking Mrs. Claus permission to have Santa Claus on this but
it was a phenomenal experience and yeah, it definitely, it was great.
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So you know, like I said, I really appreciate you taking your time today for being on this
episode of Around the Loop.
You know, I appreciate everything and like I said, I'll put your headstock link in the
bio too so everybody can check that out because that was a phenomenal video.
Phenomenal short film actually, my bad.
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And I'll also post this as well so everybody can see it.
You know, and shout out to Camp14k.
If it wasn't for you, I wouldn't be here today to get this done.
Yeah.
You can follow me at Double Tap Live.
That's her Instagram.
And I'll put that on, I'll put that in the bio too.
Website, doubletaplive.com.
Yeah, I appreciate it.
Thank you so much.
Appreciate it.
Thank you for being on the episode of Around the Loop.
I'll see you guys next time.
Alright y'all, welcome to an amazing episode of Around the Loop.
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Now this episode is like no other and I say that a lot but this one I really mean it.
Reason being it's actually the last interview of the year, last interview of season 1 and
what you know, great way not to end this year with a bang.
So I'm very honored, very glad that I have Clint today with Double Tap Live and very
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blessed to have him today on the show.
So thank you very much for being on the episode of Around the Loop, really appreciate that.
And tell the world a little bit about yourself.
Yeah, so first of all I appreciate you having me on, it's been pretty cool what you've
been doing.
I've been checking out your Instagram and anything that's related to helping out us
creatives is a huge thing.
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Just giving people a voice too in a platform.
So shout out to you.
Oh thank you.
So yeah, I own a creative platform called Double Tap Live, the website is doubletaplive.com.
We do music videos, live shows, podcasts, short films.
So pretty much just yeah, we're out of Oceanside, California, it started in 2020.
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Yeah, just anything creative really.
I've done a lot of videos and music videos but it expands outside of that.
So I actually wanted to ask you, what was actually, just to give the folks of Around
the Loop a little taste about who you are, a little background about who you are first
before we jump into where you're at now.
(01:58):
I wanted to ask you, how was your upcoming, how was your childhood?
To let the world know a little bit about who you are, personal side about you, if you don't
mind sharing, it's totally up to you.
Yeah, let's get into it.
So I think a big part of my childhood or growing up was baseball actually.
So that was pretty much my whole life up until I graduated high school was playing baseball.
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So I think that helped a lot with adversity and overcoming a lot of challenges.
And baseball is a game of failure especially.
And in the music industry or production business, you face a lot of challenges, adversity, a
lot of failure.
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So I think that was huge as far as teaching me how to deal with it and overcome challenges.
Okay, okay.
So wow, and I wanted to ask, okay, so are you native here from Oceanside, Carlsbad, around
the area or did you move from somewhere else?
Yeah.
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How was that?
Yeah, born and raised in Oceanside.
So went to El Camino High School actually.
Yeah, I lived here my whole life and then after high school I moved to New Mexico actually.
Oh wow.
So Las Cruces, New Mexico.
How is that?
Very different.
No beach, it's like deserty.
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There's not a lot as far as like outside.
So I lived in Las Cruces, the population is like a hundred thousand.
Which is very big for New Mexico.
So I went there for school and then I actually worked at a radio station out there.
So that's how I got introduced into the whole music scene a little bit through the radio
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station and then you know I wanted to expand it and start my own thing and that's why I
started what I did.
Now that's amazing.
How did you come up with the name Double Tap Live?
Where's that inspiration came from?
Just curious.
Yeah, so actually Shay, my buddy Shay, he helps out with a lot of projects equipment-wise.
He helped me come up with that name.
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I feel like we live in a world where everything is social media.
Everything is double tapping on your phone, likes and we're transitioning to an age where
everything is technology.
Everyone is drawn into their phone.
So really just wanted to create something where we bring that to life and kind of separate
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the social media to the real life of the music scene and not making it all about your phone
but doing things in person and having that experience in person.
So is this something you started, was it something you were doing when you were younger too?
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Was there any exposure to this when you were younger?
Did you do anything from YouTube channels or any videography or this is just like how
does that inspiration come from?
A lot of it is from, I feel like baseball actually.
Growing up baseball, you listen to music, you listen to, I grew up listening to a lot
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of hip hop actually.
Okay, that's neat.
You know, some like straight out of Compton, like old school hip hop and I feel like baseball
you have to have confidence because it is such a game of failure and so I grew up listening
to hip hop and funny enough I'm actually Hispanic.
I don't look like it but you know, the music in Hispanic culture is very different also
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so I just grew up around music a lot and you know how it is, you like to party, dance and
immerse yourself into it.
How's the culture with you on your side?
Are you more, do you know more about your family roots or do you know a little bit about
it or somewhat?
Have you ever been out to Mexico or whatever the case is?
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I went to Mexico for the first time this year actually so not much before I started this.
But yeah, just you know, just growing up baseball and music, that's how I got introduced into
music and became a fan of music.
I have also liked films, just watching movies and stuff.
So I just wanted to find a way to involve myself in the music industry and I think the
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best way to do that was through like recording video actually so that was a huge part of
it.
And so when it came to doing that, like when you and your buddy got to it and got together
with coming up with this idea, like what was, do you remember the day where you locked in
and you were like, you know what, this is what I want to do, this is what we should
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do, you know we're all in on this.
Do you remember that day or can you tell us a little bit about that or how this came about
where you guys really got together and you said, this we're going to take it serious.
Yeah.
And you know, move forward.
I don't know if there was an exact moment, but I feel like in 2020, which I feel like
a lot of people started things in 2020, I was working at the radio station and then
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came home during the pandemic and was like not doing anything at all.
And I just always wanted to start something and radio station introduced me to that scene,
but I wanted to do more for it.
So then when I came home, I would just think about different ideas and I wanted people
in Oceanside to have a platform because it's always LA or San Diego, more so LA where people
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go to.
It is, it's true.
So I wanted to have artists or people have the opportunity here in Oceanside.
And I believe Oceanside is honestly a beautiful like midway point for between San Diego and
LA.
Yeah.
And honestly, that's exactly why when I started the podcast too, I started to tell my ladies
cousin out and that's where the inspiration came from.
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And from there, I just kept going and going and I was like, well, why not try to get back
to the city I grew up in, Oceanside and share the town.
There's so much talent from comedians to artists to producers to there's a lot here.
There's so much.
Yeah.
So much.
And I'm excited for season two for this upcoming year.
Like there's a lot coming for you guys and yeah, just stay in tune for that.
Stay in tune for that.
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So it's going to be neat.
And I wanted to ask you, you know, like let's talk a little bit about your short film, Headstock,
the horror film that you just recently released.
Cause I actually took the time to watch it and you guys, I'm going to put the link in
the bio so you guys can watch it because it's hands down.
It's really nice.
I loved it.
I loved it.
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It was great.
I appreciate that.
Yeah.
So this was the first narrative short film that I've done.
I've done music videos since 2020 and it's been constant music videos and I really immersed
myself in the scene of music videos.
And I'm going to tell the whole story how to get to the short film.
But pretty much.
Let's backtrack to the music and let's go there first before we get to this then.
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So who was your first artist actually that you worked with?
So it was this guy in Albuquerque, New Mexico actually.
We found this guy on TikTok.
He was doing pretty well.
So I reached out to him.
He agreed.
That's cool.
Woke up at like six in the morning, drove three hours to Albuquerque, shot the video,
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drove back, edited it, finished it, put it out like the next day.
Holy shit.
I got like, you know, 2000 views the next day.
That was my first like music video that I did.
And then ever since then, I just took off with working with people here actually because
did one music video there, came here and then worked with different artists out here.
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So with all these music videos, I've even done artists or worked with artists in LA.
I've been privileged to work with Grammy nominated, Grammy award winning artist on a music video.
We did like a Tiny Desk.
Like, you know, have you seen Tiny Desk?
Of course I have.
It was like that style.
Really?
In his Hollywood living room.
And how did that, honestly, how was that feeling?
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Because I can only imagine you just being there.
What, so surreal or how was it?
Yeah, it was pretty cool.
So the reason why I met him was I did a music video in LA, sent him the work, not really
thinking anything of it.
Okay.
And then I'm having a Grammy nomination party, like come out for it.
So he was an engineer for Kanye's Donda.
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So he did that.
Okay.
So I went to the nomination party and met all these cool people.
And then a year later, we actually ended up doing like the Tiny Desk style video.
And so that was like a pretty big project.
You know, it was really cool doing that.
And then, yeah, I just worked with a lot of people here in Oceanside, San Diego.
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Yeah, I feel like working on all these films, sometimes people get lost in their craft a
lot.
Let's talk about that a little bit.
Yeah.
So I've worked with people where they like kind of become a little crazy with what they're
doing.
They become so obsessed with their work that it takes away like the human aspect to them
a little bit.
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So if you could describe that a little bit more for the audience, like, because some
of them, you know, I have folks from all over the world.
Yeah.
And, you know, for some of the audience that are on the other side of the world, like to
describe it so they get a better understanding too.
What do you mean by that?
Like getting so lost in it and stuff like that.
So what are like some of the signs or what are some of the characteristics that are,
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you know, show?
Yeah.
I feel like it's what we see on TV and TikTok and with these celebrities too, where a lot
of people talking about like selling their soul.
I have heard of that.
You know, I know it's like a, it's just like a phrase or whatever, but people become so
obsessed and they want to succeed and become famous so bad that they lose touch of who
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they once were.
I see.
Okay.
So, you know, that type of thing and, you know, staying up all night and just like,
oh, we need to get this video done.
You know, they become kind of crazy while doing it.
So the reason why I'm talking about all this is that's what sparked the idea for Headstock.
Okay.
And that's because it was about, it was about a videographer who became crazy and worked
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with this girl who plays a guitar.
She's a musician.
So he got so obsessed with his videography craft that it consumed him and he ended up
capturing that girl.
And that was the dinner that was being cooked.
Yeah, that was phenomenal.
And I was just watching them in the craft, the attention to detail, like how long did
it actually take you to film that?
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Let's talk a little bit about the process behind that, behind Headstock.
How was that?
So I wrote the script in February of this year, actually.
Okay, okay.
It was a 12 page script and I wrote the script and then I casted.
So I casted actors from here in San Diego.
Oh, that's cool.
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So I, you know, I, it was like through this website or whatever, and I would like kind
of interview people and be with these actors and I chose who I wanted for the film.
Then once we did that, I've had different podcasts and meetings with actors to get familiar
with them.
And I feel like that's really important with who I work with is making sure that they're
comfortable with me and I'm comfortable with them.
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That's cool.
I think that's a huge part of it.
A lot of people just work and they don't even get to know the person, you know, but which
is cool.
I like to get to know the people that I'm working with because it's my videos and I
take a lot of pride in it.
So casted for about a month, found the people and then just selected some dates and we did
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it in about two days.
So the living room shots was one day.
The girl with the guitar, that was one day.
And then I did a lot of B-roll shots outside of that, just on my own free time.
I was paying attention to that and the attention and detail to the video, it was so keen because
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it's like all the different angles.
Yeah, it's so captivating.
Even my lady this morning, she was getting ready for her little breakfast that she was
meeting with her friend and she got distracted too heavily.
She just got distracted into the video and stuff.
And I loved it and I'm definitely going to put it on the bio for everybody to watch.
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Make sure you guys go out there, show some love and support, make sure you watch it.
It's phenomenal.
And do you have, okay, so have you won any awards from this so you can let the people
know?
Yeah, so submitted it to different festivals.
I was selected for NDX, it's a festival in LA.
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I got nominated for an award but they're not going to have their screening until next year
actually, next spring.
So I won't find out which award it is yet.
But I got selected, nominated for that and then I was selected for a short film in Atlanta,
Georgia, which I got back about a couple months ago from that one.
So that one was pretty cool.
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Let's talk about that.
Was that your first time in Atlanta, Georgia?
It was.
First time in the South.
How was that experience for you?
Waffle House is pretty good.
It's 10 out of 10.
I was stationed out there in the East Coast when I was in the service and I was in North
Carolina.
So, yeah, Waffle House is 10 out of 10.
Even though it's at 2 a.m.
It's pretty good.
Amazing, I wish they had one here.
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Yeah, first time out there.
That was a very unique experience.
I got invited out there.
The venue was like a small theater, kind of in some random neighborhood.
There was like a couple horses outside actually, so it was very unique.
So that was a really cool experience just to be invited for that.
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I got to speak in front of the theater and the crowd too.
Oh wow.
Yeah, that was pretty cool.
And how was that for being in front of everybody?
How was that feeling?
Do you do a lot of public speaking or is it something that took a while for you to get
there?
I don't really do a lot of public speaking.
I've done different podcasts and things of that nature.
I feel like when I talk about the things I'm very passionate about, it's easy.
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If I were to talk about some random class assignment or something I don't really care
about, then I don't like it.
But if I'm talking about something that I love, then I can talk about it for hours.
Okay.
I appreciate that.
And so as far as this film, is there another one up in the works that you plan to do soon?
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Or do you plan to actually do a full movie?
Yeah.
That's cool.
Definitely thinking about some other projects.
Yeah, different short films for sure I want to get into.
Probably not going to get into the details of it.
Yeah.
So everybody's got to wait for that.
It's worth it.
Yeah.
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I definitely want to.
I'm looking to do something very soon actually.
Nice.
So beginning of next year hopefully.
Okay.
And any other music artists or any music videos you're doing sometime soon or any honorable
mentions that you want to mention?
Did a music video this morning actually, so that was cool.
Oh, wow.
You can expect that pretty soon.
Yeah, I was just trying to work with different artists in San Diego.
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So if you're an artist in San Diego, feel free to hit me up.
How's that process just to reach out to you?
For people that are curious.
Really I would say the easiest way to contact me is follow the Instagram, double tap live
and just reach out.
Okay.
Yeah, there's no really specific.
A lot of the videos I do with now are actually word of mouth, which I'm very grateful that
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people just recommend and suggest, shout out Cam 14K.
If it wasn't for him, I wouldn't be here actually doing this.
How did that happen with you guys?
So with him, honestly, okay, it actually goes back to shout out to Balance.
So it was actually Balance that got me introduced to Cam 14K.
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And I was actually, he was telling me, he's like, you know, you should meet him.
You should hit him up.
So I reached out to him and he was like, yeah, I'm all about it.
Let's do it.
And he was like, I'll hit you up when I'm in Oceanside or I'm back in town.
Cause he was out of town for a little bit.
And I was like, all right, well, you know, yeah, let's set that up.
And I was on my way to Vegas and he so happened to be in the area.
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So we actually shot our first episode over there.
And that's always, we just kept in touch.
And for a while he mentioned about you.
He was always talking about you and stuff.
And actually he was showing me the music videos that you guys shot together and everything.
And, no, the attention to detail is, man, you definitely need more exposure.
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You definitely need your flywheel for that.
Cause that was, you do an amazing job.
Especially with all your music videos, with all your different artists and stuff.
It's phenomenal.
It's phenomenal.
And I can imagine how much work you put into that.
Oh yeah.
That means a lot.
So thank you.
I appreciate that.
So how's your friendship relationship with Cam 14K?
Let's talk about that.
Yeah.
So we've been working for a very long time.
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He was like the second Oceanside artist that I've worked with in 2021 or whatever it was.
So it's been, it's been a, we've done a lot.
We've been locked in.
I feel like our visions align.
He's always down to work and he's very consistent with it.
Which is what I like to have someone that is consistent.
And he gives me my creative freedom, which I really appreciate also.
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He pretty much just sends me the songs and is like, Hey, do whatever you want with it.
And that works out very well.
I've had artists where they have their own ideas and I can do that.
I like doing that.
Yeah.
But also I like to expand and kind of take control of the ideas and shoot it by him and
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see what he thinks.
And he likes it.
So yeah.
So it's not like something you just, you automatically do what you want and then you're like, all
right, cool.
Just without running it.
And that's really, that's really neat that you know, you do that as a, as a business
owner too, and a professional at what you do at your craft.
You know, it is, it is important to be able to show that, Hey, what do you think about
this?
And if they're like, Hey, you know, I love it.
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Let's rock it.
Let's roll.
Then let's do it.
And you know, the creativity, how do you, what inspires you with that creativity?
Where do you get your, it's just like little things or what?
Yeah.
I mean, I take bits and pieces from other, other things, but I don't, I like to do a
lot of just from what comes from my mind.
I would like to be as different as possible.
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And I know that's pretty cliche.
I feel like everyone's trying to be different, but I'm not understandable, but I get you.
I get it.
I get it.
I'm not afraid to just like do something that's sounds horrible and just like try it.
And if it's horrible, then it sucks.
But like I, I have the idea and I like to just kind of do things that no one has really
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thought about.
And you know, a lot of the energy that we do in our videos is like actually live on
the spot.
We've done shows and we're doing music videos in the middle of a show.
And I feel like that's pretty cool because it's like, the energy is very like raw and
you know, natural.
So I think that's, I like to do that too.
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That's really neat.
And I love seeing that.
I paid attention to, wow, you had a number of different artists on there, which is really
neat.
And you know, is there any other upcoming folks that, or anybody that you would love
to actually work with in the future, or any, anybody in your field too that you would actually
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like collaborate with or what, what, you know, what can you let the people know?
Yeah.
No one specific comes to mind.
I'm open to working with anyone.
Okay.
One thing that I'm looking forward to doing though is colliding both the music videos
with the short films and getting the artists that make music involved with my short films
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and kind of having the film world that I know and the music video world come together and
people that make music help out with the films and filmmakers could get music from them and
everyone just work together.
So do you have any artists of mine that you would want to attempt to at least have for
that, you know, to do a short film with?
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There's a few artists in mind.
I'm probably not going to say names right now, but yeah, there's definitely a few where,
you know, or really anyone local that is from Oceanside or San Diego, I'm really open to
working including them in the short films that I do.
I'm definitely going to have to send you, I have a handful of people that are definitely
worth your time as well and they have phenomenal talent, phenomenal talent.
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So it's definitely worth.
For sure.
So I know I appreciate that.
And then I wanted to ask other, you know, a couple of little personal questions.
Is there any favorite foods, any places that you like to go eat around, any local places?
Getting to the nitty gritty right now.
Yeah, that's good.
Some foods?
Yeah.
Geez, can't go wrong with some good old Mexican food.
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Okay.
What's good?
Because I know there's a list that you're going to make go on and on.
Some good food.
It's going to be Bourbon Brew.
Okay.
I'm just, I'm picking from the crowd right here.
Yeah, no, and it's all Gucci.
There's a place that's Shake Shack actually by an Orange County.
It's not the Shake Shack that you're thinking of.
No, it's a separate one.
Separate one.
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That's very good.
Very good.
I have to definitely check it out.
Yeah.
What about you?
Oh me?
Wow.
That's actually a great question.
I usually go from anywhere like Birria Tacos.
I'm easy to go to like Carnesal Tacos too or Mexican food as well.
Can't go wrong with Chinese food as well.
Yeah.
Just love that too.
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I just like food.
Yeah.
Honestly, foodie in general.
I like some water.
Stay hydrated.
No, it's important to drink your water because I mean a lot of people be out passing out
or having that dry skin.
Drink your water.
Yeah.
That's important.
Yeah.
So, you know, is there any, from music artists that inspired you to who you are today, you
know, you mentioned NWA.
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Is there any other folks, any honorable mentions that shaped you who you are today?
Honestly, I like Travis Scott.
And the reason for that is the energy that he gives off.
And I try to do the same with my music videos as far as the experience.
So a lot of people like his music because of the experience they feel during his concerts
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in the live shows.
And that goes with anything.
Like you like certain things because of how it makes you feel.
True.
So that's why when I do these short films with actors, I have podcasts with them.
I have meetings with them.
Like I'll go to lunch with them.
And on set is a very fun environment.
Like we're working, but it's also about the experience and how they're feeling.
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And also the people watching it feed off of that too.
Like the actors are very comfortable with each other.
The music videos.
I've said this before to plenty of people, but if you ask me for a burrito, you know,
I'm not going to just give you the burrito.
I'm going to give you a nice plate.
I'm going to give you a nice four seat table.
And I feel like I try to do the same with all my music videos and work where you ask
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me for one idea and I'm going to expand on it and give you more than what you asked for.
Oh, that's phenomenal.
And I think like if you go to a Travis Scott show, it's not just the music that he's performing.
It's the lights, it's the fireworks, it's everything around it.
There's a lot.
So I think I like to feed off of those.
Have you been to a Travis Scott concert?
Have you had the opportunity?
I have not.
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I haven't either yet, but I'm looking forward to it one day.
I've only been to one concert.
It was Jack Harlow.
Really?
No way.
That wasn't my idea.
No, that's pretty cool though.
I had the chance to see Juice WRLD and Ski Mask when they were touring together.
How was that?
It was phenomenal.
It was an experience like no other.
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I was honestly blessed to be able to see that because that's one of one kind of experience.
I want to be able to see that again.
I don't know.
I'm just a fan of music.
I can listen to Frank Sinatra one day and I can listen to Travis Scott another day.
I just like the music and I'm a big fan of instrumentals too.
I will listen to movie soundtracks or Interstellar, Hans Zimmer.
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I'm a big fan of the whole composure of music also.
Have you actually seen any live performances like that?
I know he does it.
He's been doing it recently, but I haven't.
That would be cool.
That would be pretty neat.
I would start a GoFundMe.
Definitely should.
Put me in the concerts.
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That would be cool.
I'll take a video of Hans Zimmer and do all that.
Is there any films or any movies that you personally like that you would like to share
out there?
Any personal ones?
Yeah, I'm a fan of Tarantino's movies.
I like a lot of his work.
Pulp Fiction, Killbills.
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I also like horror, thriller, like Midsummer Hereditary.
I'm a big fan of those.
I don't know if you've seen those.
I've seen the Midsummer.
I just like psychological also.
Make you think about what I'm doing.
In the movie or the film Headstock, there's a lot of Easter eggs that you could interpret
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it in different ways.
That's something I like to do.
You could think about different scenarios of what happens.
I was actually going to ask you about that because I was paying attention and I was like,
okay, I've noticed this and that.
I'm not going to ruin the surprise because definitely people need to go and watch this.
It's good that you gave the hint that there are Easter eggs out there.
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Make sure you pay close attention to that.
I wanted to ask you also about your poster back here as well.
I always just have a music video with the QR code for the folks who scan.
I'll ask you to take post pictures about it as well.
How did you come up with that?
That one, you actually scan it and it's a video of Cam's music.
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So shout out Cam again.
That's his music video.
We did that at Sunset Market.
Funny story about that one.
That one's doing pretty good.
It has over 10,000 views, which is pretty cool, but who's keeping count?
So that one was pretty cool because we flew a drone over the crowd.
So that picture is actually a part of the music video.
Oh, that's amazing.
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And then I wore a GoPro during it.
So we were walking through the crowd shooting with everyone involved.
So you don't know what's going to happen.
There could be someone just messing with the video or doing whatever.
So we were just walking through that crowd just doing the music video, which is pretty
cool.
Did you have any problems when that happened or it was just like you were lucky?
Not really.
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Just people kind of looking at us like kind of weird stares, but I don't really care about
that.
No, it's the same thing, especially when I'm like, same thing when sometimes I'll pull
out my drone too and I'll be flying it as well and people are just staring and they're
just like, whatever, it is what it is.
So people ask too, they'll be nosy.
They'll be like, oh, hey, you got a license for that?
You got a certification?
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I'm like, I got my paperwork right here.
Yeah.
I know I like that.
There's a music video we did also in Gaslamp where we pulled up in a limo and then he went
to perform at a club.
We came out the club and then did the music video outside and people were looking and
we are blasting one of the songs called or music videos called cocaine cowboys and we're
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just blasting it in Gaslamp and people were just like taking their phones out recording
and that was like in the music video too.
Yeah, I saw that.
And that's, you know, that's, I play that song a lot actually.
Cocaine Cowboys.
Yeah, Cocaine Cowboys.
It's phenomenal.
How did you come up with the inspiration for that?
For that music video?
What inspired you for that?
That was actually pretty dope.
It really matched.
It matched really well with everything.
Yeah.
I'm trying to think of what made us come up with that idea.
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I mean, I don't really have a...
You can just roll with it.
I just remember it being as thematic as possible.
That was the one video where we were like, you know, we're going to try to shoot this
as if it's a movie.
At least the first one.
It was pretty dope.
Yeah.
So I want to...
If you can reiterate that.
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Yeah.
So yeah, just shoot it like a movie doing different parts as if it were a short film
actually because before the music video actually starts, there's like a good three minutes
to the video that is before the music video.
So like leading up to that.
Yeah, I was watching that and that was pretty nice.
So you said that was your first one?
Did you ever did or is that like the second one or...
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No, it was probably...
I've done a good amount before that.
So yeah, that was like the first one where it was like short film style music video.
Yeah, so I want to do more of those two where there's like a story leading up to the music
video.
Okay.
Sounds like there's going to be some future projects in the works then.
I might know some.
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That's neat, but I'm not going to spill the beans on that.
That's cool.
And then like I've said before, I really appreciate coming out here, taking your time because
I mean, busy man, I understand you're a man of many hats.
You're doing this and got a lot going on as well.
And I appreciate all the love and support too as well.
Like I said, my mission is to show the love and support of Oceanside to show the talent
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and from Oceanside or Carlos back down in San Diego, just in LA.
And there's more phenomenal people coming our way and stuff like that.
So is there any advice you can give to any people that want to jump into this field or
even thought about going into this field?
Is there any tips, advice, and score?
What do you recommend for some people?
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I actually didn't go to school for this.
It was interesting, but I would say if you want to do it, don't be afraid to reach out
to people.
That's kind of what I did starting out.
That's cool.
I mean, that's how we came into contact.
It's true.
But like just, I would just say start, reach out to people, say, hey, I want to work on
this.
And even if you don't have the equipment or don't really know what you're doing, just
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do it.
True.
Because my first music video was horrible.
And the more you do it, the more you'll learn.
And that's what I did.
I just kept on doing it.
I didn't really care about anything else except doing it over and over.
It's your perfect craft.
Yeah.
And the more you do it, the better you're going to get.
So I would just say just start.
And you'll meet people along the way that will help and everything.
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And honestly, it's really phenomenal.
The people that you meet, the doors that open up and the opportunities that just come out
of it, it's phenomenal.
And I mean, is there any good experiences or any phenomenal or honorable mentions that
you want to throw out there that like, oh, I met so and so and there are the reasons
why I met so and so or because of them.
(32:29):
For me, if it wasn't for Balance, I wouldn't have met a lot of the people.
My brother introduced me to Balance and I reached out to Balance too with the help of
my brother as well.
We set the first episode there and he was actually my kickstart for my podcast interviews
with artists and stuff.
And from there, we built that connection and he sent me a list of people and I just started
(32:51):
reaching out to them one by one, knocking episodes.
There was a point where I was doing two episodes a day.
Just knocking them out, trying to get as much film as I could.
That was good.
So it was great.
And it's honestly a phenomenal experience to share that talent with the world and meet
all these people.
What's like the end goal for you with this?
So for me, honestly, the end goal is to be able to finally quit my day job.
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That's the one end goal is to quit my day job to be able to finally put an end to it.
Not actually quit it, but I guess put a pause to it because I mean, what I do in the day,
I do, I'm a little bit of a technician, so I do anywhere from audio visual to I'll hang
up TVs, I'll do camera installs, I'll do security system installs, pull data for the walls,
fiber, you name it, I do all that.
(33:38):
And one day I want to be able to just put a pause to it and not have to break my back
no more with pulling all the cable, coming home like, oh, I'm really exhausted from doing
all this all day, busting my ass for that.
I want to be able to work smarter, not harder.
And then I got into this podcast field and love it.
And my end goal with it is to be able to take care of my debt that I have first before I
(33:59):
go and jump the gun.
Oh, I'm going to go help so and so because everybody wants to do that right away, but
you got to be able to take care of yourself first before you can take care of others.
Water your own grass first.
True.
Yeah.
No, true.
And I love that quote.
That's great, honestly.
And for me, it's to continue to just share the talent with everybody.
And one day, I mean, even if I meet more bigger celebrities, that'd be the goal.
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The goal is to continue to keep going and going and never stop and build that generational
well for me, my young ones and for the folks around that I live with too.
And it's important.
It is important and to share it.
There's so much talent, so much voice.
And props to you for doing this while you have your other job too.
Thank you.
That's pretty hard.
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And I feel like people don't really understand the work that you're putting into it.
It is a lot, man.
And it's crazy that you say that because like, now that I think about it, it's a full-time
job.
It's a full-time job that doesn't pay a fortune.
Right now that I started, it doesn't pay, but it will one day.
And I'm looking forward to that with the sponsorship opportunities if that happens or...
And that's to cut you off.
No, you're good.
Really quick.
(35:02):
But a lot of people, one advice I would give to people too is they look for the money right
away and you got to understand when you're starting out, you got to do it for free.
That's just what it's got to be.
Even if you have another full-time job, do it at your job.
I did that on my other job.
They didn't know, but I would edit and do things at my job or right when I got home
and just do it for free and then the money will come later.
(35:24):
A lot of people look reverse way.
Yeah.
They believe it's an overnight thing and it's not.
When the day that the money does come rolling in, my goal is to get back to the community,
get back to Oceanside and people into this field too because podcasting is for anyone
that wants to express their voice.
You don't have to be a professional at this.
(35:45):
I wasn't a pro when I first started this.
I was terrible.
I have maybe 10 to 15 pilot episodes that I have in the bank that I've never released
and upgraded mics from little by little.
The quality gets better over time and it's just the experience to show the growth with
the audience.
That's the one thing that's really neat is show the world your growth and they see, oh
(36:06):
wow, he started with this music video and now look at him now.
It's like, oh shit, that's really the same person.
Exactly.
I wanted to ask you, what about you?
Is there an end goal for you for all this?
Yeah.
Really, I just want to give myself a big enough platform where I can do music videos for whoever
(36:28):
I would like and then just building up the short films to just be bigger and bigger productions
and projects.
There's not really a cap on what I want to do.
I'm open to doing anything creative.
That's cool.
Even if I were to start clothes one day or make a movie one day, I just want to be creative
and I think that's...
(36:49):
Is there any film festivals that you want to attend to or that you're trying to get
on for the folks that don't know anything about them?
Film festivals that I would want to submit it to.
Or be part of.
Yeah.
Nothing really comes to mind as far as the names of them, but I just want to put my work
out there, submit it to whoever and whatever I can.
(37:14):
I also want to help people and teach people how to work on projects and create a big enough
team with Double Tap Live where I could do that and just have a team behind me.
I already have a good little team.
That's pretty neat.
Expanding that and just pretty much working on whatever we want to work on.
I love that.
(37:34):
I love that you got a total control of it.
You are your own boss on this, which is good with the help of others.
It is hard to do this all on your own.
It's hard to do a one man team.
I run the podcast as a one man team, but I do have help from Balan T. He does all my
cover arts for all my photos and stuff like that.
(37:55):
From folks introducing me to other individuals like that.
I do get the little help like that and it's phenomenal.
Especially I do appreciate everybody's time.
Out of your day you come out here and meet me or I come out and meet you just to make
it comfortable.
My whole experience is raw, genuine.
People hear me stutter and that's the whole thing.
It builds that genuine connection with each other.
(38:15):
It's a part of it.
It is.
It is.
Do you think you manifested this?
To be honest, I never imagined that.
I never imagined I would get myself on a microphone.
It's funny that you said that because I was talking to a friend of mine that back from
(38:36):
high school.
He's been serving in the army ever since.
He was like, man, I knew you were always going to have something.
You were going to be on camera or you were going to be on video or something like that
because you always made everybody laugh.
You were always a funny person.
I never thought about it like that.
I've been working on being on camera as well, learning how to actually look at the camera
(38:58):
because sometimes it catches me staring up at the ceiling.
I do that a lot.
I do it a lot.
I would have never imagined that it actually would get this far and meeting all these faces,
all these artists, all these talents.
Sometimes I still can't believe that it actually happened.
Even having this chance to be with you right now, just to be at this moment, it's phenomenal.
(39:25):
I can say it's like one message I can say to people.
It's like nothing's impossible.
Anything's possible.
You just got to put your mind to it.
It's all in the mind.
It is.
It is.
I wanted to ask, as we come to almost an end, is there anything you would like to share
with the folks around the loop, with the audience, with the world?
(39:51):
As far as Double Tap Live, there's a lot of new projects coming soon.
Short films, music videos, different podcasts.
Nice.
Always working on different things.
Just going back to why we're starting this, we can't lose touch of helping people, helping
creatives and putting Oceanside as a face for creativity.
(40:15):
I think that's the huge thing.
It is.
It is one of the biggest missions here.
I'm really grateful for all the things that I've done with this.
It's pretty cool.
I have so many stories with all these music videos.
It's really cool and I'm really happy that I'm getting the chance to talk about it more.
(40:36):
Have you ever been interviewed yourself?
I've seen you interview others, but have you been interviewed yourself?
Is this your first actual interview on you?
I've been interviewed on my own podcast from other people, but no, I don't think I've been
involved in-
This personal level, is it like-
(40:57):
Yeah.
I think this is the first time.
I appreciate you opening up too because it takes a lot to be able to open up and just
share a little bit about yourself because that's where you show that you're vulnerable.
Your vulnerability with everybody and with the world, it is important.
It shows that genuine connection.
I wanted to ask you, is there, like you mentioned, some crazy stories, any good stories from
(41:20):
music videos that you shot, is there any mentions that you do, any stories you want to throw
out there?
Really quick, I don't know how much time we have.
First, first-
Perfect.
Yeah, first video I did in LA was kind of a funny story.
This guy, he actually, someone, when I was living in New Mexico, I got introduced to
(41:42):
this artist who lived in Kansas or St. Louis, whatever.
And then called this dude and was like, hey, we should work someday.
I don't know how because you're over there and I'm over here, whatever.
Got his information when I moved back during COVID, he reached out and he was like, I'm
in LA, let's work.
Okay.
I said, all right, let's work.
(42:02):
So I drove to LA like the next day.
I didn't even know this guy really.
And that's the risk you got to take.
You just got to do stuff.
A lot of people are hesitant.
Like why would I drive out there with nothing guaranteed?
But I was like, let's just, I'm going to drive out there just to have a conversation with
this guy.
Drove out there.
We were supposed to just meet at like a Starbucks and talk about ideas.
(42:24):
And he was like, you know what, come, come to my house or stay with his girlfriend at
the time and we'll try to get some shots in, or at least start thinking about an idea.
Okay.
It was very weird.
It was like South Central LA.
I pulled up to the house.
Oh, interesting.
Okay.
Right when I pulled up to the house, his girlfriend's family was having dinner.
You know, it was kind of interesting because I just met this guy for the first time.
(42:48):
There were, I'm having dinner with this random family.
My first 20 minutes of meeting him.
And then he was like, hold on, I have this studio in LA.
Like we should try to do some shots tonight.
And I was like, all right, so let's do it.
We booked the studio, went to the, got to the studio and it was Justin Bieber's engineer
that actually was in the studio working with us.
(43:11):
Oh shit.
And he did like Justin Bieber's old songs, like Never and all that.
So first time in LA, just randomly had dinner with this random family.
Went to the studio, met Justin Bieber's engineer.
And then like the next couple of days, he had a show.
He was like, oh, I'm performing in Hollywood.
Pull up.
So I had recorded at this, at the show.
(43:33):
And then we went to Malibu, we went to Hollywood and this was just all like happening at the
same time.
And then, right, that was a big moment where after that video, I had a lot more opportunities
coming.
It would just be music video after music video.
There would be times where I'd drive to LA, get home at three in the morning, next day
do another video.
Just, just a lot of stuff like that.
(43:55):
So that, I mean, that was, you know, pretty interesting and that was pretty cool.
Have you had any, any times where you were supposed to meet up with an individual or
it was like, you had this schedule out and they just didn't, they ghosted you.
Have you had that happen to you?
Cause it has happened to me for sure.
No, actually.
No one's, no one's ghosted me or just not showed up or not paid really.
(44:21):
Everyone's been very good with their business.
This other time though, I was sleeping.
It was like 3 a.m.
I got like 30 missed calls.
Like that wasn't an exaggeration.
And I believe it.
From this guy, he was like, I need like $300.
Please send me the money.
Like I'm, this guy did a song with Tyga.
(44:43):
He wants to do a song with me.
Please like help me.
He needs like studio time and we're going to work on this.
Blah, blah, blah.
Just stuff like that.
It's been a lot of weird moments where it's like, he called me like 30 times to try so
I can help him out.
And, you know, just like stories like that or I don't know.
Yeah, but no one's, no one's like ghosted me or anything.
(45:03):
That's good.
Cause I've, you know, I've had it happen to me where, but a situation where I set it up
and interview with a local artist actually from San Diego, San Diego area.
We were locked in and everything.
I thought it was cool.
And the week of like I reached out to him just to make sure like, Hey, you know, you have
a location, everything, nothing.
The day of the interview, I see his Instagram and he's out in Vegas.
(45:24):
I was like, Oh, that's crazy.
We're supposed to have an interview today in San Diego.
Yeah.
How you doing this?
But it's all love though.
It's still love.
And I'm not hating on nobody for, for, for this at all.
It's a learning experience too, because I mean, that story is for you to tell.
Like you wouldn't have that story unless that didn't happen.
Exactly.
And I mean, if the artist does see this, no, no hate to you at all.
It's all love.
And when you already just reach out back to me, I mean, we'll get it done.
(45:47):
I'm not banning you from this at all.
No, it was just due to lack of communication on his end.
This is what happens.
It's a real, it's a real story.
It's the nitty gritty to it.
Yeah.
So, you know, I wanted to ask you is, you know, two, two questions before we start wrapping
it up with this.
So one question, if you were to see the younger version of yourself right in front of you,
(46:08):
you know, what message do you have for the little version of you?
And it's alright, you can take some time to think about it because it is, it's a big question.
I probably would have told him he's complete failure.
Really?
In life.
What makes you say that?
Because then that would have pissed me off and I'll be like, no, you're wrong.
And then I'm gonna just go in and stuff.
Okay.
Yeah.
(46:29):
No, that's honestly, and I like your answer on that because that's, that's very unique.
Everybody has such a different answer, but that's by far one of the most unique answers.
I would have bullied him so that he just like gets his, he just works hard, push him over.
No, and okay.
So then, and then one last message, one last question for the folks for, you know, around
(46:49):
the loop and for the folks around the, around the world, what message do you have for people,
for the audience?
What's your message to the world?
What's your message to the audience?
It's a great question.
It's okay, you can, yeah, you can take, you can take some time to think about it because
it's not, it is, it is a deep question.
And it's okay if you think your answer might sound dumb, it's not, nothing, no answer is
(47:12):
dumb, nothing's, whatever comes out of your heart, your soul, dude, that's all you.
I would just say whatever you're doing, go all out with it.
Don't just go crazy, go all out.
Don't half-ass anything.
When I was like the first, I had like two followers on Instagram and I was making like,
(47:32):
videos or art and when I would sit down and make the video, I would act like the whole
world is going to see it.
And I was like, they're not because I have like two followers or whatever, but like every
single detail matters.
I see some people like, they post a video and it's like a screen recording on YouTube
of like the, like if I were to repost this and I just screen recorded it and you could
(47:55):
see like all the videos below it, just of random videos, like at least crop it.
Yeah.
And you know, just like every detail just go all out and you never know who's going
to see it.
And that's something that I tell people also, you know, when I sent the video to the guy
in LA who worked with Kanye, I sent it and I took the risk and you don't know who is
(48:16):
going to see this.
That's true.
Tomorrow when you, or whenever you post this podcast, someone huge could see it.
This one actually, I love this because this is going to be, since this is the final interview
episode of the year, we have this episode coming out.
Santa Claus is next.
That's the next interview which is pretty crazy.
(48:36):
I actually like the interview.
That was fun.
That was very fun.
Did you ask him why I keep on seeing him at different malls all the time?
No, honestly, yeah, I wish I would have asked him.
It was more about like his personal life and I try to keep it best to his character.
I got character a little bit but you know, he had a great message though to share with
everybody and you know, his mission at Santa Claus and why he does what he does.
(48:57):
So that was a phenomenal experience.
It was kind of nerve-wracking.
I had to ask Mrs. Claus for permission.
Oh wow.
Yeah, it was, and this lady like she plays the role so well.
Yeah, it got me nervous for a second.
I was like, oh, I'm really asking Mrs. Claus permission to have Santa Claus on this but
it was a phenomenal experience and yeah, it definitely, it was great.
(49:18):
So you know, like I said, I really appreciate you taking your time today for being on this
episode of Around the Loop.
You know, I appreciate everything and like I said, I'll put your headstock link in the
bio too so everybody can check that out because that was a phenomenal video.
Phenomenal short film actually, my bad.
(49:39):
And I'll also post this as well so everybody can see it.
You know, and shout out to Camp14k.
If it wasn't for you, I wouldn't be here today to get this done.
Yeah.
You can follow me at Double Tap Live.
That's her Instagram.
And I'll put that on, I'll put that in the bio too.
Website, doubletaplive.com.
Yeah, I appreciate it.
Thank you so much.
Appreciate it.
Thank you for being on the episode of Around the Loop.
I'll see you guys next time.
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