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September 26, 2025 2 mins

Most people aren’t natural tinkerers. That simple fact shapes how AI adoption actually plays out inside companies. It’s not enough to drop a new tool into the workflow. Deadlines and old habits keep teams from trying new approaches.

In this bonus episode, Daniel and Aydin Mirzaee, CEO of Fellow, talk about why adoption stalls when people stick to the “old way,” how organizations can carve out space to experiment, and why patience is needed to push through the frustration curve.

It’s a candid look at what it really takes for teams to shift from tinkering to transformation.

🎧 Want the bigger picture?

This clip is just a glimpse of Aydin’s perspective. In the full episode, he shares how Fellow pivoted from manual meeting tools to an AI-first platform, why building for future model capabilities is now a necessity, and how AI as a “chief of staff” can raise the quality of decisions across an organization.

Listen to the full episode: https://rss.com/podcasts/manaryhaus/2227017/

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