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David Hernandez (00:00):
My name is
David Hernandez and you're
listening to As The PokeballTurns.
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Welcome to As The PokeballTurns, where the stories are
real and people still play thisgame.
Back when Pokemon first arrivedin the States, it was immensely
popular and everywhere.
People were playing the games,collecting the cards, and the
merch for Pokemon was nonstop.
Eventually, the initialpopularity faded and Pokemon
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Belonged to a very niche group.
It became uncool to still beinto Pokemon for any people old
enough, usually you were madefun of for still being into
Pokemon.
You fast forward to 2016 andhistory repeats itself.
Pokemon Go debuted and the crazewas Worldwide.
Businesses would advertise dealsin some places if you played
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Pokemon Go or if you were on acertain team and everyone was
playing it.
However, just like Pokemon,Pokemon Go, went through a
similar phase where sometimesyou get asked, you still play
Pokemon Go and I personallystruggled with this question.
I didn't know how to answer it.
I loved the idea of going aroundand collecting Pokemon.
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it's a childhood dream come trueeven if it wasn't mainstream or
popular as it was back in 2016.
It wasn't until I noticed aformer coworker playing Pokemon
Go.
Of course we geeked out over thegame and the different Pokemon,
but I asked her the question,why do you still play Pokemon
Go?
Little did she know, her answerwould be how I approached not
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only Pokemon Go, but any hobbyor interest I had moving
forward.
She answered.
Because I like playing, whywould I not do something I enjoy
doing?
My guest in this episode talksabout the struggle of looking
for other people's approval withPokemon.
He shares his journey fromplaying Pokemon when he was
younger to Pokemon Go when hegrew older, to eventually
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becoming a streamer on Twitchfor pvp.
Here's his origin story into theworld of Pokemon Go.
This is Trainer Rem.
Now today I'm joined by the manon a Master Quest Trainer Rem,
welcome to the show!
Trainer Rem (02:43):
Hey, thank you for
having me, man.
David Hernandez (02:45):
definitely
trainer rem, and it's been a
long time coming.
For those who don't know, we'vebeen trying to work on this for
a couple months and a lot of itjust comes down to, you know,
we're both for busy people, butyou are definitely busy because
you go to school.
You going full-time orpart-time,
Trainer Rem (02:58):
part-time.
David Hernandez (02:59):
so you gonna
school part-time.
You work two jobs, right?
Trainer Rem (03:02):
Yes, I do.
David Hernandez (03:03):
So you're going
to school part-time.
You work two jobs.
You're also a content creatordoing TikTok and Twitch and all
that.
And you also have a girlfriend.
Trainer Rem (03:11):
Yes, I do.
David Hernandez (03:12):
So like that's
a lot on anybody's plate?
So how do you balance it?
Trainer Rem (03:16):
Honestly, I didn't
think that my life would get
this busy, so it's been, backand forth figuring it out as I
go along, but it's justremembering that, just take each
day at a time, making sure thatif something gets too difficult,
making sure that I have myschedule and my to-do lists,
which have been a huge help.
And also just making sure that Iknow everyone's schedule, like
my family's schedule, mygirlfriend's schedule, they know
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my schedule as much as possible.
But just being able to manageall that, it's very helpful with
the schedule, making sure thatwe communicate what we need.
I communicate what I need andthat's pretty much how I've been
doing it.
David Hernandez (03:49):
I gotta say
this like you gotta have some
kind of drive or motivation totry to balance all that cause
it's a lot, it's a lot on theplate, so what's your
motivation?
what drives you to keep tryingto hold all that together?
Trainer Rem (03:59):
The future.
Just trying to think about whatwould I want my, what do I want
my life to look like and whatkind of person do I want to be?
And do I wanna be the kind ofperson that has to take one
thing at a time and making surethat I take a single step at a
time, or do I want to be able tomultitask and, how to prioritize
tasks, figure out which one Ineed to do first and which one I
can leave for later on or youknow, leaving free time, just me
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time basically and scheduling itout.
That's been really helpful and Ijust love being organized like
the motivation for organizationis huge, it's been a game
changer since, I wanna say Iturned at least 21 or 22, cuz
I've usually, I grew up a verydisorganized person, but seeing
the organization, like seeingthat I have my to-do list in
front of me, seeing that, oh,this is what I need to get done
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this week and then I can, and Ican plan ahead for next week.
That's what keeps me motivatedtoo and just kind of like seeing
in real time, I'm becoming theperson that I wanna be.
David Hernandez (04:49):
you're ahead of
the game for me cuz I didn't
learn organization till probablytwo years ago cuz like you, I
would just go with the flow ofthings and that works for a
while, but eventually you haveto have some structure in your
life.
Trainer Rem (04:59):
Exactly man.
David Hernandez (05:00):
I Look forward
to hearing what your future is
like, but let's go back to thepast a little bit.
So when did you first startplaying Pokemon Go?
Trainer Rem (05:07):
I started pretty
much when the game was launched,
like a lot of people that weknow, I started back in July of
2016.
I just graduated high school theyear before, so I was literally,
as I was going into college,Pokemon Go started and I
remember seeing the first teasertrailer for it.
I was like, oh my gosh, Pokemonin the real world.
That's gonna be insane.
This is like literally what Iwanted as a kid.
And it was still during thattime where I was going through
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the traditional stage of being akid, being a teen to an adult.
and I still have my hobby, stillhave my interests, you know, in
Pokemon, honestly, I was a bitout of it at that point, like
before Pokemon Go was announced,I was in that stage of like,
well, I like Pokemon, but Idon't think I wanna take it with
me into adulthood because eventhough I like it and it's one of
my hobbies, I feel like I kindashould leave it behind cuz I
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wanna see where I can go if Ijust leave the stuff that I used
to like as a kid behind.
But, a lot of people growing up,going into college, you realize
that a lot of people just don'tcare about that.
you're able to be yourself,you're able to be who you are
and, being in that environmentplus learning about Pokemon Go,
that helped a lot.
And I ended, actually ended upmeeting a lot of people and made
a lot of local friends becauseof Pokemon Go in the first
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couple of days.
I went out with, my friend Noah,and we went biking all around
the neighborhoods, trying tolearn how Pokemon Go worked.
We were just recording onSnapchat, like it was the
hottest day of the summer.
We would just be riding up anddown like the different
neighborhoods and streets, likespent hours.
We went up and down WoodwardAvenue, on our bikes like
hunting Pokemon, we went todowntown Royal Oak.
The, like streets were crowdedwith people playing Pokemon
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businesses had the, oh, come inand if you're Pokemon trainer
you can get this deal on Pizza,this deal on bubble tea, there
was even the tea shop that hadhypno art, saying set up a lure
here and you guys get 10% off,your next purchase.
it was crazy.
David Hernandez (06:46):
And that was
the fun part about Pokemon Go is
that it was embraced not only bythe player base, but the
community itself, like you sawbusinesses advertising, just
having a Pokemon Go account andstuff like that.
It was just so surreal.
Trainer Rem (06:55):
Mm-hmm.
Mm-hmm.
Just seeing how people wereinteracting with each other and
it felt honestly, I do see thetweets and like TikTok and
whichever, like whichever socialmedia form resurface every
couple of months and be like,Pokemon Go in 2016 was when the
world genuinely felt like it wasat peace for a given length of
time, even though the serverswere dog crap, like we all
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remember like the servers, theywere not working every once in a
while and there was no battlingaspect like there is now.
it was only like use thefootprints to find Pokemon.
explore the Pokestops, go out inthe world and see where you can
track Pokemon.
they could have been anywhere,like back then they were pretty
much just placed in random spotsthere, like random spawn points
throughout the world.
So it could have been like, oh,there's a dragonite at the
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church down my street Oh,there's a charmander inside this
business like that's, an officebuilding.
And it got even to the pointwhere my friends and I, in like
2017, I think, we actually usedto go to downtown Ann Arbor, and
it would be 3:00 AM like 2:00AM.
My boy Jacob would just bedriving us around in his, sports
car and even though likeUniversity of Michigan,
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basically during the day atnight, there's almost no one in
the streets.
So he was just like zooming upand down the streets.
I ended up getting a little bitcarsick sometimes, but like, but
it was worth it because therewas one time where we actually
were tracking Dragonite, for thewhole night and then there was a
point where we actually ran intoan intersection that had two
dragonite spawning at the sametime.
David Hernandez (08:15):
Oh wow.
Trainer Rem (08:16):
like everyone was
inside.
It was dark, it was late.
And we like, and I was trackingone on my Ann Arbor tracker and
my buddy was tracking another onhis phone, but they actually
happened to be at the sameintersection, so missed the
bigger one, that was like 2,500something and then the other
just happened to be 25 cps.
So like I ended up catching thatone, but it was an experience
I'll never forget just becausethat kind of was the epitome of
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Pokemon Go at that time for me.
David Hernandez (08:39):
You spur up a
memory from me, so we actually
had, in Dallas, there's likethis section of Dallas that
always spawned Dragonite.
We had a scanner.
So we were able to keep track ofwhere the spawns were.
It always, it was West Dallas.
It was just this part of WestDallas had always spawned
Dragonite and I'm wondering thatobviously it's different now
cause we don't see that.
We don't see those aroundanymore.
wonder that maybe back in theday there was like specific, I
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don't know what to call it,areas to where like these rare
Pokemon would constantly spawn Iforgot all about that when you
mentioned, I was like, oh, wehad the same thing here.
Trainer Rem (09:08):
Yeah, because I
think at one point, well, a lot
of people in 20 17, 20 18started developing scanners for
certain areas and people wouldsuddenly find the spots where
the rare Pokemon spawn the most.
for us, that was either downtownDetroit in the surrounding area
of metro Detroit, or that wasdowntown Ann Arbor.
And the hotspot was definitelyAnn Arbor the most, because
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every time, like every time Iwould be, in my room late at
night, I'd just be watching thescanner just for fun and all of
a sudden I would see, like, Iremember gen two came out and
people were hunting Pupitar,Larvitar, Tyranitar, and like
Unown.
I was seeing so many Dragonite,Unown, and second stage
evolutions and Tyranitar, likeall these random spawns that are
super rare pop up in downtownAnn Arbor.
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And I'm like, I think it isbecause, you know, college town,
there's a lot of cellulartraffic down there and it's also
a touristy side for Michigan, soI'm thinking maybe, maybe
because there weren't that manyspas like that anywhere near me,
but luckily for me it's like a45 minute drive to downtown Ann
Arbor, so I'd actually sneak outsome nights just to like, oh,
it's an hour long Spawn, aTyranitar, let me go catch that
and it's like 30 to 40 minutesaway.
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And then I would just sneak backin the same night just to go
back to bed and, and the samething the morning.
And I'm like, this game has achoke hold on me man.
And it's terrifying to thinkabout, but it was totally worth
it.
David Hernandez (10:21):
were you trying
to keep it hidden from your
parents?
I assume?
Trainer Rem (10:24):
N I mean, like,
honestly at this point, telling
the story, I don't mind it, butkeeping all of that, like,
hidden, cuz I know that theyknew that I was sneaking out at
some point, so they're like,you're gonna run your car
ragged.
And it was already, it wasalready 2002 Ford Explorer.
So like,
David Hernandez (10:38):
it's had some
good years.
Trainer Rem (10:39):
Like legit, legit.
It's taken me from point A topoint B for a long time,
actually this recent year I toldyou, it started crapping out on
me a little bit.
So I'm like, oh, I guess I can'treally do that anymore.
but back then it was super worthjust like seeing people that I
knew at those random spawnpoints like I remember sticking
out for a Tyranitar spawn thatwasn't like 20 minutes for me.
it was like 1:00 AM and like allof a sudden you see this line of
cars just pulling into thisneighborhood and I'm like,
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really gonna get the cops calledon us or someone's gonna come
out and start like shouting,saying get away, get off my
lawn, or something like that,but it was a Tyranitar spawn, so
seeing like at least 15 or liketo 16 cars on one street pulling
up like one by one and then it'sme seeing a group of my friends
all the way from Detroit whocame out to get it.
I'm like, this is what PokemonGo was meant to be at that
point.
David Hernandez (11:22):
So you've
talked about your area a couple
times, so can you gimme someinsight, like what is it like to
play in your area?
Like where do people go for likeraid hour, community days, stuff
like that?
Trainer Rem (11:31):
being in Michigan,
it's definitely, it's a good
place for, I would say mostlywater type spawns because even
if you go near, cuz we, since wehave a lot of bodies of water
here, anytime you go near a lakethat has like a, cities on the
water or city on the Detroitriver, like if you go to the
river walk in Detroit, you'llsee a lot of pretty good spawns
in general, depending on thetime of day that you go.
the main hotspots I would sayare downtown Detroit because
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plenty of Pokestops, plenty ofgyms, plenty of like cellular
traffic.
So you're likely to get any typeof spawn, that you really want
there as long as if you spendlike at least a day.
back in 2016 through, I wannasay at least 2019, the
Renaissance Center in downtownDetroit used to be the big
hotspot because during communitydays, during certain events,
like that place would be luredup.
like nobody's business,everybody be there, like walking
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in groups, walking the rotunda,sitting on different floors and
just sometimes people justsitting with their phones
plugged into the wall, just likesitting cross-legged, leaning on
the wall, talking to each other.
during the Youmacon, like peoplewould be playing during the
convention while they're incosplay and I would sneak in
there just with my very poorPokemon Go Trainer cosplay, just
to act like, Hey, I'm cosplay.
I got a Pokemon ball in my hand.
I got my, I got my, my yellowshoes, my windbreaker, my team
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instinct hat.
I'm cosplaying so I'm sneaking
David Hernandez (12:40):
you were decked
out.
Trainer Rem (12:41):
Yeah.
Oh yeah.
Like ever since I was a kid, Ilove dressing like a Pokemon
trainer for at least like eitherHalloween or any kind of cosplay
event.
Now it's died down cuz theyeither would kick out Pokemon Go
players or the g p s signalwould be wonky.
like with everything changingand go to like the crowd
dissipated.
some places are still hotspotson given days, like it would
like mostly like the downtownareas like Royal Oak,
Birmingham, Dodge Park andSterling Heights, rochester
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Municipal Park in, of courseRochester in Auburn Hills.
Like those were the hotspots,like Ann Arbor and I'm pretty
sure msu, but it was mostly themetro Detroit area and
surrounding areas that was thehotspot for Pokemon Go.
David Hernandez (13:16):
so earlier you
mentioned about how, I think you
said you went to college youwere trying to put Pokemon away
cause you thought like, eh, youknow, I'm older now, maybe I
should grow out of it.
What made you switch back tofalling back in love or coming
back to Pokemon?
Trainer Rem (13:27):
I think it really
was more of me going into
college and then, because myfamily, growing up they would be
like, you gotta leave yourselfbehind.
growing up for me, when I was akid, I liked Thomas 10 engine a
lot.
so I loved collecting Thomastoys and then up until about, I
wanna say midway through middleschool, like I was in seventh
grade, not even gonna lie toyou, I still, I got into model
trains, so I was collectingthose more and then at the same
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time I liked Pokemon still likePokemon was that constant factor
throughout my entire life thatwas always there.
ever since I was a kid, mybrother introduced me to Crystal
and I was too young to know whatI was doing, so all I saw was
like, just noises, peoplethrowing out Pokeballs and just
like little pixels battling eachother and then as I got older,
like when I was at least six, Ithink, I remember the first game
I played consciously was PokemonSapphire.
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Gen three will always have thatspecial place in my heart
because that was the first gamethat I knew how to play.
But then, Pokemon Diamond andPearl is where it's like, oh,
okay, I'm older now.
I know how to actually beat thegame by myself.
And then Gen five is where I hadthe best time.
after that I noticed okay, I'mstill playing Pokemon games, but
I'm not really into as much as Iused to be and then as I got
through high school, not manypeople were talking about
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Pokemon, so I was like, maybeit's time for me to leave it
behind?
as I got into college, I sawpeople just letting go and just
being like, I love Pokemon.
I love Weeb stuff, I love anime,I love like hobby, I love
gaming, blah, blah, And peoplenot putting them down for it.
I was like, oh, maybe I actuallycan enjoy it.
Then Pokemon Go comes out and Igo to town, I'm like, okay, so
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we can finally hunt Pokemon inreal life, we can play with our
friends, maybe there'll even bea battling aspect where you can
battle the gyms and then you canbattle other trainers, which did
happen, just getting older kindof meant like, Hey, I can still
love the things that I love, itdoesn't make me any less of a
person.
So letting go and being able toplay Pokemon go, getting back
into games, finding onlinecommunities, finding Discords,
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and then going into Birminghamcommunities and everything,
seeing Grown adults play PokemonGo, who hadn't played Pokemon at
all, like it was a game changer.
David Hernandez (15:19):
you pointed it
out as you get older, learn to
just enjoy the things you do,you don't have to do things just
because other people do it.
I think that's the importantpart about growing up and even
what Pokemon Go allowed is thatit allowed it to be acceptable
to be a Pokemon fan as an olderperson.
people now of all different agesof all different races and
everything come and play PokemonGo and I think that's just a
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very motivational factor thatI'm glad maybe people who are
even younger than myself andmaybe even younger than both of
us, get to experience.
Trainer Rem (15:47):
for sure.
like my parents they indulged myhobbies.
Pokemon has always been thatconstant factor in a lot of
people's lives.
Like where they say, oh, I grewup playing like the original red
and blue and then yellow.
my brother, he didn't get achance to play those games, but
like I said, the first game thathe got was Crystal for our Game
Boy, SP and him teaching abouthow the game works and he
stopped playing the games aroundGen four cuz I was like, I told
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him, you should get, pearlizedshould get Diamond and we should
trade, and then you could teachme how to play the game better.
He's yeah, sure.
And that was his last generationwith Pokemon, but he still loves
the original Pokemon likeGen-1-er, you know.
But, um, he taught meeverything.
But then every once in a while,I'll talk to him at Pokemon and
they'll be like, dude, thatlooks sick, that looks awesome,
so Pokemon is that one franchisethat if people grew up with it,
they're never gonna forget it.
David Hernandez (16:29):
And you know,
with all your experience with
Pokemon, do you have a favoritePokemon at all?
Trainer Rem (16:32):
Shiny Lucario,
straight up.
it's it's actually what my wholeentire brand is based on, just
because I never had a favoriteshiny, I didn't even know about
Chinese until I was much older.
so I was like, Ooh, wait, what'sa shiny, and oh, it's a random,
like Pokemon, like type ofPokemon, like certain variety
you can encounter in the wild,et cetera, et cetera.
I didn't have much interest inthem because I was like, oh, if
they're a random chance then I'mnot really interested in hunting
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them, but as Pokemon Go becamepopular, I think that's actually
where I started seeing oh, Iwant more shinies.
Or like thinking about oh, Iwant more shinies cuz this is
kind of what's introducing me tothat aspect of the game.
And also learning more abouttype advantages but like I said,
favorite Pokemon, shiny Lucario,just because I liked Lucario to
begin with.
It wasn't my favorite.
My favorite used to be Swamper,because like I said, gen three,
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but then when I saw shinyLucario for the first time I was
like, that one right there,that's my favorite right there.
David Hernandez (17:19):
you said you
built your whole brand around
Lucario or shiny Lucario likewhat do you mean?
that's just your mascot or isthat kind of the meaning behind
your name as well?
Trainer Rem (17:26):
It that is pretty
much the mascot.
trainer rem actually stemmedfrom Trainer Ramco, which is
like my full name.
So my like, actually it's funnythat my mom came up with, when I
was a kid for my email, I waslike, lemme just use it for my
game username and everything,but then people could never
pronounce it correctly.
So I was like, you know what,let me just go ahead and sh and
shorten it to trainer rembecause that rolls off the
tongue much easier and it'seasier for people to remember
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and then, hearing people mentionit, like I've heard my name
mentioned on streams.
I heard my name mentioned, whenI went to, N A I C, I like
trainer rem with the shiny LucCarrio.
like Lucario, just is more boldbecause most people, like most
people like Lucario.
Lucario is a fan favorite,right?
that's like saying, oh, like Ilike Charizard.
I was like, well, I don't wannabe basic, but, but like but like
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your favorite is your favorite.
again, Lucario wasn't myfavorite until I saw Shiny
Lucario and I was like, thatright there, it stands out from
any other shiny that I seen, andLucario, like still at its base,
it's a cool Pokemon, it's avery, it's a very agile, strong
mentally and physically strongPokemon, and it's always a
symbol of a strong trainer inPokemon.
it's like the symbol of what I'dlike to be like mentally and
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basically strong and resilientand that's what Lucario is to
me.
it's strong and resilient.
And then the shiny aspect of itbeing bold because a lot of
people don't like it shiny andI'm like, maybe I do because it
stands out more than any othershiny that I've seen.
So I think it resonated with meto the point where I'm like,
that needs to be what I make myentire brand around like the
brand colors like it's the neonyellow with black and gray.
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It, stands out, it's bombasticand, that's kinda what I wanted
to be noticed for I feel likeI'm more bold.
I feel like I'm more confidentin myself and I feel like if
people need to ask me questionsabout PVP or about any aspect of
Pokemon Go p or my opinion onthe game in general, then I
kinda wanna be the person thatthey go to for that.
David Hernandez (19:10):
So Lucario's
not only your favorite Pokemon
or your favorite shiny, it'salso an idea of who you want to
be as a person as you growolder, it sounds like?
Trainer Rem (19:17):
Yes,
David Hernandez (19:18):
That's such a
good parallel.
I've never like when you're saythat, I'm like, man, this is
this guy's going pretty deep.
Let him cook.
I like it.
Trainer Rem (19:24):
He's the goat.
The goat.
Well, yeah, like Even then, likeI didn't know cuz when I first
started streaming I was like,well I don't know what I want my
brand to be, but I remember whenI started streaming in 2019
using only my phone, I rememberlike making my brand almost
immediately based around, it wasfirst shiny Riolu cuz when I got
my first shiny loo from theEaster event a couple years
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back, I was just sitting at mydesk like eating my Wendy's late
at night.
my final egg from the eventhatched like a week later and I
was like, I wanted it.
It was like, it was, it waslike, oh, it's a nice shiny, I
really do want, it's like,probably gonna be my favorite if
I can hatch it.
And then literally the firstshiny Riolu that I hatched was
that same Lucario that you sawat N A I C.
It's like the best PVP IVLucario I've hatched.
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it is like, of course I bestbuddy it, it evolves straight to
1500.
I was like, that's my mainPokemon right there.
David Hernandez (20:14):
as Pokemon Go
has progressed, what's your way
to play Pokemon Go?
Trainer Rem (20:18):
around 2016, my
first drive was just to play
Pokemon in real life, you knowbeing able to challenge gyms,
hopefully battle, because likeseeing that we didn't have the
battle aspect until much, muchlater in the game.
I was kinda like, well, that'sall right.
I don't really have to worryabout battling for now.
I just like thinking about thePokemon journey because growing
up I always had this, I wasalways one of those kids where
they like to imagine that I wasin a certain scenario or like, I
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would be going on a journey withmy Mudkip.
I always made, I loved Pokemonto the point where I loved
making my own Pokeballs out oflike either a tennis ball, and I
colored on it with permanentmarker and aluminum foil, just
so I could throw it up in theair, like to the sun, like how
Ash did in the first movie wherelike, you know, like, I wanna be
the favorite best
David Hernandez (20:57):
best, like, no
Trainer Rem (21:00):
like man, like,
like, I think that's always like
an iconic moment for me becauseseeing the Pokemon battles, even
like growing up was just alwaysso inspiring to me and then
watching Gen One through all theway through Gen four like at the
time was like really, it waslike one of my lifelines.
Just because hearing the music,seeing the characters and every
story about like friendship andgrowth and training with your
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friends and everything, justbecoming stronger and being a
better person And then once 2019rolled around and These teasing
of trainer battles like Iremember seeing the first
picture was of the battlefieldand suddenly seeing the
exclamation point, like how wesee in the main series games,
just like above their head as ifa trainer's challenging another
trainer to do a battle.
I freaked out, I was like, oh myGod, this is finally it.
We finally get to use thePokemon that we've caught and
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powered up for Pokemon battlesand this is what we've wanted in
Pokemon Go for so long.
just having that aspect beimplemented into the game.
I was like, I'm like, this isprobably not to be cliche, but
it's like my calling because ifwe're able to do this with our
augmented reality game withother people, I'll have so much
fun with this.
that's how we got into SilphArena.
and like the first tournament Iactually ended up losing not
badly, I was doing pretty wellfor the most part.
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But I ended up making a wrongswitch that the kid that I
battled against like he gave meso much crap for and I'm like,
yeah, I'll show.
Yeah, sure.
But um, But, but, um, it was,just knowing the potential
because just seeing how manypeople, even people who hadn't
played Pokemon growing up andPokemon Go was their first
exposure to the entirefranchise, they came in and
participated and they broughtlike really random teams, some
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people brought three Skarmory's,three Whiscash, and I'm sure a
lot of people would rememberthat because, we had all balance
teams.
People who knew about teambuilding had balance teams,
other people just built whateverin, that was the fun of it.
You could battle, that's what wewanted.
I was like this has so muchpotential, like I wonder what
it's gonna change into and thenGo, battle League came along and
that's where everything tookoff, right?
before we saw self, like in thechampionships, regional
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championships, worldchampionships.
we also had Go Battle League,which was of course it's the
official ranked format forbattling in Pokemon Go.
but having that blind pick threeand go in type of format, it's
not, still not very satisfying Iwouldn't say at all, but it's
still like that aspect of oh, wehave a ranked format and I get
to play with Pokemon that I'vebuilt in real life.
So that's where it's fulfillingto me because it's like my
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childhood dream to become aPokemon trainer, a Pokemon
master, or like at least one ofthe best.
And being noticed for that atleast a little bit now is very,
very fulfilling.
David Hernandez (23:20):
Do you have a
favorite league you like to
battle in?
Trainer Rem (23:23):
At this point, it's
very back and forth because of
course, when PVP started, greatLeague was, and is the most
accessible league for alltrainers because of how small
the CP limit is at 1500, butwith how diverse the metas
become, like there's so manyPokemon you can use now, but of
course there's same, still thesame consistency of like things
like Registeel, GalarianStunfisk, Noctowl, Lanturn,
Medicham, et cetera, but that'swhat happens in any competitive
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format with any kind of gamewhere you have to battle each
other using teams or a certaindeck or anything like that.
but Great League is still, it'sstill pretty special to me, but
I think I actually might beswitching more towards Master
League despite not having thatmany Pokemon ready for it just
yet.
I'd like to keep battling or ifI can keep battling with the
Pokemon that I built, I'd surelove be able to do that in
Master League at least.
David Hernandez (24:04):
So when you
started, content creation, it
was around 2019, which is aroundthe same time PVP debuted.
When you started doing contentcreation, did you like base your
content around pvp or was itsomething entirely different?
Trainer Rem (24:15):
it was actually
gonna start off as let's say
back when PokemonGo started, Iactually saw other content
creators on YouTube.
That's where I started, learningmore about it because growing up
I was like, I had a digitalblue, that I used to record
videos on, it was like a littlerecording software for kids.
and I remember editing videos inthere, editing clips together.
and I used to film myself, doingfake Pokemon battles and
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everything and outside of mybackyard.
getting older, I was like, maybeI do wanna become a YouTuber at
some point.
I just don't know how I do that.
then when Pokemon Go came outand I saw people like trainer
tips and, ZoeTwoDots, And evenmy boy Tru Inferno here in
Detroit.
I started getting more inspired.
Hey, maybe I can, and hybridmongoose, he doesn't do Pokemon
Go content anymore, but he usedto be a pretty big creator here
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in Detroit too.
like just seeing people makeofficial videos based around
this real life Pokemon game, itwas game changing and I did
wanna do something like that.
I just wasn't sure how to goabout it.
And then I learned more aboutrecording.
I learned more about editing.
I'm like, this is gonna take awhile if I do wanna become a
content creator.
I did some recording with myGoPro and Microphone every once
in a while, but it wasn'tconsistent cause I was like, I
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don't know if I really wanna dothis.
going out every day, likerecording footage, having to
screen record and vlog at thesame time in person, first of
all, because superself-conscious in public doing
that, but being able to do itfrom home with PVP was where
everything changed.
I remember when Pokemon Go waslaunched, I actually started my
Instagram account around thatsame time for Pokemon Go.
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it was a lot of charting theprogress that I had, in Pokemon
Go, it's mostly to catch thememories and like I screenshot
me choosing Charmander as mystarter and then screenshotting
my start date.
And like my Pokemon journeybegins That was like July 9th or
July 10th that I posted that.
Um, and then I would, and then Iposted pictures almost every
other day of, this is where Iwent today, this is what I
caught today, new Pokedex entry.
Oh, look at this place.
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And then I slowed down aroundlike 2019, I believe because I
went to Go Fest and then peoplewere asking to meet me And like
other creators on Instagram whowere like other people who also
wanted to document the PokemonJourneys in Pokemon Go.
they were like, oh yeah, shoot.
Oh wait, I met up with trainerrem, I met up with trainer rem
like, oh.
And then I was like, oh, shoot,what's going on?
it wasn't like people wererushing to beat me, but like
being recognized, I was like,that's weird, man.
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What is happening?
And I'm like, oh, shoot, is thiscreation thing actually
happening now because I am beingconsistent with creation on the
platform.
Maybe this can go somewhere?
David Hernandez (26:30):
it must have
been very surprising when you
went to Go Fest and peoplewanted to meet with you, right?
it's oh my gosh, I actually havean audience who wants to meet
with me.
Trainer Rem (26:37):
and it wa it was
crazy because it wasn't, like I
said, people rushing to meet meat all.
Like, I didn't expect that.
And I didn't like, not like Ididn't want that, but I thought
it was cool cause I rememberactually like one of the friends
that I made, he's also fromMichigan.
he's mostly from Kalamazoo.
back then was doing a lot ofrecording, posting videos on
Instagram and some videos onYouTube.
Same with me posting a couplethings on YouTube, but not like
it, not really growing thatmuch.
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So I wasn't too worried aboutit, but being able to meet in
person, like I was sitting inline and it was like the morning
of Go Fest and it was inChicago, it was a bit rainy.
so we had Ponchos on andeverything and then he walked,
he's yo, REM, what's up bro?
I was like, oh my goodness, bro,what's going on?
seeing people in person and thensome people recognizing me, and
then at some events, at some PVPevents that I went to later on
in years, people recognized meand I'm like, that is crazy.
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I feel like, if I hadn't gotteninto Pokemon Go, none of this
would've happened,
David Hernandez (27:24):
what was it
like going to the Go Fest?
Was that your first one?
Trainer Rem (27:27):
that was the first
go fest and my first one.
and of course like we'd all knowwhat happened like the cell
towers, like servers weren'tworking, people chanting, we
can't, we can't play.
And people were hot.
My phone was hot.
I was hot.
David Hernandez (27:40):
Everybody was
hot in that field,
Trainer Rem (27:42):
Literally hot in
more ways than one man.
people heated cause the gamewasn't working, the grass was
dry because people weretrampling, like huge mobs
everywhere, but it was so muchfun because people were all
gathered in one place to playPokemon.
and just being able to see somany people celebrating, like
something that we all love inand just a simple mobile game
turned out to be such a hugegame changer for so many people
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and even seeing friends fromMichigan that I didn't know were
coming, like we were all like,yo, yo, you're here too, it's
cool, But then like I had to, Iwent there with my brother and
my dad cause I still wasn't oldenough to drive myself.
so like we all stayed in a hotelroom.
I ended up leaving for the parkby myself early in the morning
just so I could get therebecause we weren't far, it was
like a simple walk.
but we actually had to leavebefore they released Articuno
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and Lugia into raids that day.
So,
David Hernandez (28:24):
no.
Trainer Rem (28:25):
so yeah, I was
like, I was like, dad, yo, can
we just stay a bit longer?
He's no, we gotta go home.
I was like, so there I went likewe were riding on the freeway
back to Michigan and I saw allthe raids happening around me
and all the people gatheredunderneath them while you're
driving from the road and I waslike, oh my goodness man.
Of course I have to miss allthis now.
it was still worth it justbecause I got to see how many
people truly loved the game.
I got to meet some people overthe years I, cuz I've been to
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Montreal Safari zone, I actuallygot to meet, trainer tips.
I met Reversal and Championshipat the first Go Fest and all I
wanted was just take a picturewith them.
I said, I know you're busy rightnow, you got a crowd following
you.
I just want one picture and thenI'll leave you alone.
He's they're like, yeah, sure.
so yeah, I took pictures withthem and it was nice to meet
them.
And then I met Nick again laterat Montreal Safari Zone I'm
like, it's cool just to see howlike we're all regular people
playing this game, but like weall love to be creative with it
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too.
just being in person withfriends and sometimes getting
recognized for the creation thatyou do for it is super, super
fulfilling.
David Hernandez (29:15):
So what is it
about going to these big events
that inspires you to continue togo?
Trainer Rem (29:20):
I think just like
the sense of like, everyone
always says it's the communityand for me, it's part of that,
but it's also the fact that Iknow my younger self, this is
literally everything that Idreamed of and being able to
travel, like either by myself orwith people that I care about or
people who care about me, we'reall having fun doing this one
big thing.
let's say it's like people whogo into cosplay conventions or
gaming conventions, like you'rehanging out with people that you
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care about and vice versa, andyou're all having fun together.
I feel like it's also about,making connections cuz you don't
know who you're gonna meet, youdon't know who you're gonna run
into and potentially, it couldbe your, like your new best
friend.
It could be like someone thatyou work, like a collaborator
that's gives you a greatopportunity.
and also again, going back tolike just hang out with your
friends at dinner, getting pizzaor whatever.
that's what N E I C was like forme, like making a lot of
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connections and, seeing peoplethat I hadn't seen for so long
and people, I finally got achance to meet because we only
met each other online and onlytalked online.
David Hernandez (30:09):
My last
question about Go Fest, so if
somebody's on the fence aboutgoing to a Go Fest, what would
you tell them?
Trainer Rem (30:15):
I would say if
you're on the fence about it,
try, like, try to go if you canjust because you gotta
experience it at least once.
Like the Go Fest have definitelyimproved over the years from the
first one.
Um, 2019 was amazing.
like so many parties, so manypeople willing to help you get
to a different location that wasbased around Pokemon, let's say
oh, oh wait, like I was withthis one random dude that I just
happened to meet at thetournament and we both got an
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Uber together to go to the afterparty and then we both went home
at the same time afterwardscause we're just like, oh, it
went back to hotels cause wewere like, yeah, like this is
amazing.
just like being able to meetpeople, being able to play
Pokemon and get Chinese that youmight've wanted, that you've
been wanting for so long, beingable to trade, being able to
even do the battle arena, whichwas huge for me.
being in the battle arena, Iknow that they were doing it
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like in a weird fashion wherelike you move up to the next,
rank quote unquote slash step togetting to the top of the battle
tower over there.
you would just battle randompeople like someone used Entei,
Zapdos, and Suicune on me and Iwas like, oh.
So I just brought my basic qvpteam up, like Medicham, Azu, and
Bastiodon, I think, orProbopass, something like that.
I remember it was like, oh, Igotta, you guys use one team,
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stick with it.
So I'm just gonna, I'm justgonna run this team I got to the
top, I got to the, I got to thevery end of the arena and I was
facing off against this guy.
We were about to get our battlestarted and then all of a sudden
they said, there's like a severestorm warning that everybody has
to take cover, that everybody inthe park has to take cover.
And then they literallyinterrupted us as like it said,
1, 2, 3, go and we both, ledMedicham and I'm like, oh, so
this guy's also a veteranplayer.
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So I was shaking, but I was soexcited too, but then, they
said, you know what?
Just give'em their vouchers,give'em the prize vouchers and
just get them outta here, so wedidn't even get a chance to
battle, but we both ended upstill winning top of the tower.
We both got our prizes, likethese fancy, like Japanese
little earbuds that werePokeball themed.
my Pokemon Go Fest battle Arenamedal, like some stickers.
And it was really cool.
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But the fact that I didn't getthe chance to battle that guy, I
was like, Aw.
He even, he was like, I kindawish you got a chance to battle,
man.
I was like, yeah, me too.
Shoot.
But we had to go take cover inthe nearby, subway station.
David Hernandez (32:11):
Did you battle
BuckeyeFitzy?
Cuz that sounds like his story.
That sounds very familiar.
Cuz he had the same deal wherehe battled his way all the way
to the top, but he didn'tmention anything about a storm
though, so
Trainer Rem (32:21):
No, was that might
have been him.
David Hernandez (32:24):
You've been
listening to As The Pokeball
Turns.
We're gonna take a quick break.
We'll be right back.
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you started content creation in2019.
You mentioned earlier how youstarted recording with Twitch on
your phone.
Trainer Rem (33:37):
I did, so I used
Stream Labs mobile back then,
and I did have a Samsung GalaxyS 10 And that phone was like a
nuclear reactor in my handsafter like every I logged off
bro.
I was like, this thing isgetting way too hot.
I'm gonna probably need topurchase some actual streaming
gear at some point cuz doing itfrom mobile was accessible, but
I had to do so many things.
Like I had to make sure that Iwas recording vertically, And
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then I would have to change theoverlay to be, perpendicular
with that.
it was like a lot of constantreversing, like making sure that
I put the chat in there andmaking sure that I put, the
stream activity in there likewho's followed, who's
subscribing and everything.
I would be watching it, from mylaptop on Twitch, like just from
the created dashboard.
I'm making sure everything looksgood and I used to have a green
screen.
I still have a green screenbehind me now, but I used to
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have a green screen cuz my roomwas not much to look at back
then, so I'm like, eh, like I'lljust do my battles.
No one really care about it andI'll choose a green screen.
and then eventually that changedfrom me just using my phone to
me.
I think I was using my laptop atsome point, but it didn't work
too well.
luckily not too long after thestimulus checks came through, so
that's where everything gotstarted.
I'm like, eh, I could have savedsome money, but I went to two PC
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bills to make my current pc.
the first one, the graphics carwas messed up and the case was
probably a bit too small.
so I actually had to get afriend who lives about an hour
away and he helped me build itand we had to try, I had I had
to drive there at least threetimes just to get him to set it
up and also help with it.
And then at one point, my, mypc, I brought it back and it
like, of course, like the mostsatisfying thing was seeing the
Windows screen come up and thenI could log in and finally start
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using stuff.
I'm like, okay.
So finally I have everythingthat I might need to start
creating content.
I even, I used to have a webcam,and ring light.
And now I have a full fledgeddslr.
I have an El Gado face cam.
I have my Hyper X quad cast mic.
and I have two monitors set upand I have my switch, my PS
five, my game capture, like allthat just happened just because
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I wanted to start streamingpokemon Go PVP.
David Hernandez (35:28):
you know, you
talked about earlier how, you
felt uncomfortable being out andabout trying to record our
experience that way.
Was it just the privacy ofTwitch that allowed you to be
able to do content creation?
Was that the appeal behind it?
Trainer Rem (35:38):
Yes.
It was also the fact that, whilewe were in lockdown, most people
started streaming back then, sofor some people, it was a way to
make money.
And that's like easily fair.
Like so many people were just,they got into streaming because
they're like, I, we're stuckinside and I like gaming.
Why, or, and I like beingonline, so why don't I just
start streaming?
I was like, you know what?
I think if I start streaming mybattles, like I can potentially
build a community and maybe evenmeet some new people, make some
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new friends.
Then it'll be a fun time.
streaming inside, like hanginginside is what my brother and I
mostly did during 2020, and likesometimes we went out, like
there was like nobody out therein the cities and everything.
So it would be nice to just beable to walk around and just
have privacy and just not haveto worry about people getting in
your space, which it's not toobig of a deal for me, but just
being able to not have anyobligations and just have fun
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with streaming and just, try toreach Rank 10 back then, and
then later on in seasons reachrank 24 and improve the
streaming setup, solidify mybrand, like making sure that
people knew who I was and what Ibring to the table, just from
the comfort of my home Was huge.
David Hernandez (36:36):
So when anybody
comes into your stream, just say
a random stranger comes in.
What do you want theirexperience to be like when they
come and check out your stream?
Trainer Rem (36:43):
the first thing
that I like to do is just say,
Hey, what's going on?
Like, I don't like to call themout, unless they talk in chat
cause I've learned that somepeople just they like to lurk,
they don't like to be outed.
because like having theattention brought to them, you
know, it may kinda makes'emself-conscious, makes'em
anxious.
So I was like, yeah, that'stotally fair.
I'm just gonna call, I'm justgonna call out People who say,
who talk in chat, say, Hey,what's going on?
oh, are you streaming?
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Pvp?
I like pvp.
It's like, oh yeah, well welcomein.
My name's Trainer Rem and I dostream Pokemon Go pvp.
And other aspects of Pokemonsuch as Pokemon.
Nowadays, Pokemon Unites,Pokemon Violet for like some,
times.
but it's mostly competitivePokemon.
Like maybe you'll see some,maybe you'll see some funny
moments.
Maybe you'll be able to join thecommunity in the Discord.
And we got a lot of stuff goingon there, so I hope you have a
good time, but otherwise how youdoing today?
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Stuff like that.
but nothing too long-winded,just so I know I don't scare
them away with trying tooversell myself.
just because it took a lot oflearning though, because I
started streaming from nothing.
I didn't even know really whatstreaming was.
I just, knew about Twitch once Istarted seeing other people
playing Pokemon Go.
And then I started learning moreabout, oh, this is what
streamers do like streamers justhop on play games and some
people get sponsored.
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Some people like they're part ofteams and it's cool.
Maybe something that'll happenfor me.
And that's where I am now.
So it's really surreal.
It's actually pretty surreal tothink about, oh, just like back
in 20 20, 20 19, I was onlystreaming for my phone and now
I've got like a full fledgedsetup and I have goals and
dreams to become like a fullcontent creator with
sponsorships, maybe even onlydoing content creation, this
work.
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But I know, even though I knowthat can be finicky sometimes
for income, so I'm eh, probablyjust like a part-time job on the
side.
David Hernandez (38:12):
Hey.
That's fair.
That's fair, man.
I was gonna say, you started,your journey basically with a
phone and a dream, and nowyou're basically a part-time
content creator where you get tostream, I think you do three to
four times a week.
It sounds right.
Trainer Rem (38:23):
Yeah, about three
to four times a week.
it does, it can range because ofmy changing schedules with jobs,
any life obligations or plansthat I've made previously.
but yeah, mostly three to fourtimes a week I'm on TikTok, and
then I actually streamseparately, so I'm on TikTok and
usually in the mornings when Ihave the most energy for
battles.
And then, later on I'm on Twitchwhere I stream either Pokemon
Unite or Pokemon Violet.
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It might be some other varietygame, but for now it's mostly
Pokemon.
David Hernandez (38:47):
Since you've
been streaming for about four
years, what's been the biggestchallenges that you've
encountered as a contentcreator?
Trainer Rem (38:53):
So as a content
creator, some of the things that
I've had to deal with, ofcourse, like back then, were
most people who just come in andsay random mean, terrible shit
like some people would say oh,like who told you could play
Pokemon?
You're black and like legit.
I've been told that before whileI was playing Go Battle League
and I was like, oh, wow, that'sa band instantly.
But like, on the outside, Itried to not show that it
affected me, but on the inside,like I felt this sense of like
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my body got cold.
I was like, oh God, here itcomes.
people are gonna start shittingon me and everything just
because of what I look like, whoI am, and oh, like they don't
like seeing me play the game.
Well, that's their problem.
That's not mine.
Like I'm just having fun playingPokemon and doing my battles and
everything.
of course it's gonna happen cuzinternet is, internet can be
full of hate in some parts.
it doesn't really get me down ormake me nervous as much as it
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used to because now that I'mstreaming on TikTok, I've had
some people come in and say youshouldn't be playing.
And like that actually, that waslike the only comment that I've
gotten so far.
That was like, beside that waslike genuinely mean spirited.
Other comments are like, justmicroaggressions or, they're
meant to be funny, but I don'tfind that funny.
But, as a black Pokemon Gocontent creator, for the most
part, the community's been verywelcoming and very supportive.
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But, I sometimes wonder, like, Ihaven't been growing as fast as
other people.
I'm wondering if, I'm hopingthat doesn't play a part, but
you can't help but think aboutit sometimes.
am I having a harder time withcreation?
or, not with creation, but justlike with growth because of who
I am, what I look like, or is itjust the fact that I'm not
putting out enough content orI'm not putting out the kind of
content that people enjoy?
it's also been a blessingbecause seeing people, like I've
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heard people mention oh, Istarted playing Pokemon because
of you.
I started, I like, oh, I startedgetting PVP because of you or
I've had people say someone wholooks like me playing on stream
and like streaming their battlesand who's getting, who's getting
more well known.
Like you, like it's, it doessomething for me.
And I'm like, I didn't thinkI've ever hear that
David Hernandez (40:38):
It's like you
don't know what to do with these
complimented words.
Like I'll Yeah, it must feelpretty demoralizing whenever you
do get those comments becausePokemon should be for everybody,
right?
like I said earlier aboutPokemon Go, there's people from
different places who play thisgame all over.
as a black content creator, asyou said, you got some people
who just, for some reason theythink if you're not, white or
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whatever, whatever they have intheir imagination, you shouldn't
be playing Pokemon.
a, how do you handle thecriticism?
And B, is there a moment towhere one, if you ever get those
comments that you had to stepaway and decompress to kinda
work through whatever feelingsyou felt whenever you saw that
comment?
Trainer Rem (41:13):
Yeah.
there have been times where it'sgotten, it's gotten to me like I
would tell Rena, I would tellher that oh, this happened
today.
And I'm feeling super, superstressed about it and like it's
getting to me and I know Ishouldn't let it.
But how do you not let somethingthat happens to you almost every
other day, like, how do you notlet it get to you?
And of course, this is one ofthe reasons why I also fell in
love with her because we canalso, we can share these
experiences so clearly and thisis the first time where,
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anything like this has actuallyhappened to me outright besides
thing that happened over theyears.
But they were super sporadic andsuper random, so it would
happen, I would just kinda belike, that was weird.
And then I'll just go about mylife.
Even though I, I'm fully awareof the entire situation that
like non-white people deal within general and black people in
general.
Legit.
there would be some days whereit got to me, some days where
I'm like, am I being excludedfrom this event?
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Or am I being excluded from likethese groups of creators because
of what I look like?
Or is it because I'm just notpart of the group or both?
it gets to me sometimes, butlike I just, sometimes I
remember that it's not really myfault, it's not my problem.
if people who appreciate you forwho you are will stick around
regardless of anything likethat.
if people who appreciate you,people who enjoy your company
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people who enjoy you for you,they will stick around.
The people who don't like youdon't need them.
you don't need to feel thatsense of approval or, you don't
need to be, validated by them atall.
Which is perfect word for what Ineed to say.
But some days it gets to you.
Some days it doesn't.
but otherwise, like I'm gettingbetter at just plaguing off and
being like, oh, that, that'sgonna be a band, or something
along the lines of or I justignore the comment entirely and
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I just keep going with whateverI'm doing.
David Hernandez (42:42):
Now you
mentioned earlier how you got
some comments to where peoplesay like, oh, now I play Pokemon
because of you.
Right.
nice to see somebody who has thesame skin color as I do.
My question is this, so As youcontinue to grow as a content
creator, especially as aAfrican-American content
creator, what do you want peopleto see who are also
African-American, who areyounger, who are aspiring to be
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content creators?
Like what do you want them tosee whenever they think about
you?
Trainer Rem (43:06):
I want them to see
someone who's positive, who
isn't afraid to love what theylove.
and love doing it too.
if I'm able to inform people.
who look like me about this iswhat you use in Pokemon Go PVP,
without them feeling like, oh,it just feels like another white
person talking like, oh, she'sanother white person.
Another, I'm not gonna lie, mostof the gaming demographic that
companies prefer or that certaingroups prefer mostly white and
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Asian gaming, but more darkerskin creators are on the way up.
So it's more relatable to see,black casters for gaming and
stuff like that like for smash.
for Pokemon, I know it hasn'thappened quite yet.
There aren't that manydark-skinned casters just yet,
but hopefully even my girlfriendsaid like, hopefully like maybe
Rem you could do that cuz you'vecast it before.
And I have cast it before for,certain tournaments.
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for Michigan tournaments andpeople loved watching the stream
and people said, I brought theenergy along with my co casters.
And I'm like, maybe this is,maybe this could be a thing.
And also it could be huge forrepresentation because I want
people to not to experience whatI experienced growing up, which
was like, there aren't peoplewho look like me playing this
game and they're all doing itout in public and what if I do
it?
I look weird, right?
just being able to rid people ofthat feeling and let young black
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kids or young, darker skinnedkids just be able to have fun
with it like even some kid theother day came into my retail
job and bought, and like his mombought him some Pokemon cards
and I smiled cause I'm like,don't let that hobby or don't
let this enjoyment fade cuz likeyou definitely can enjoy it
young man.
You know, kind of corny, but youknow, I dunno where the young
man came from, but.
David Hernandez (44:33):
You're only
like, what, 25?
So
Trainer Rem (44:34):
Literally what?
Well, I like, honest to God,like, I, like, like he, he was a
kid, kid, like at least six.
So I'm like, yeah, like, likekid, But yeah,
David Hernandez (44:43):
Rem, you've
been a lovely guest.
We're towards the end of theshow.
I do have one last questionbefore we close this taco stand.
Trainer Rem (44:49):
Mm-hmm.
David Hernandez (44:50):
earlier you
talked about when you first
started this interview, how youalways look towards the future,
like your very future minded,and then you talked about how
your favorite Pokemon, shinyPokemon Luc Carrio on how,
that's how you envision yourselfto be that's what you wanna be.
Bold, confident, strong andeverything.
My question's this, so what doesthe future Trainer Rem want to
be like?
what do you hope to see yourselfbecome in say, five years, 10
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years?
Trainer Rem (45:15):
I'm not too sure
if, honestly, because I'm not
sure where content creation isgoing for me right now.
I just wanna know what I wannaaccomplish for content creation
in the short term, but in thelong term I'd like to establish
myself as someone whocontributed to the Pokemon
community in general likesomeone who was able to inform
people about Pokemon Go P v P,while representing a certain
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demographic that wasUnderrepresented in like the
grand scheme of things.
and people who, like oh, heyTrainer Rem, yeah, I know that
guy like, bro, Shiny Lucario wasso cool, just being able to
inspire others, and even youngkids to be able to.
if they like something, theyjust go with it, like they don't
be, they're not afraid of whatpeople would say or people would
do and then maybe even becomegreater because of it.
David Hernandez (45:55):
That's awesome,
man.
And you're definitely aninspiration for many people, and
I hope you grow into the personyou wanna become.
And unfortunately, part of lifeis we don't know where it's
gonna take us, right?
I think you just having thoseideals is a very good motor for
you to see where it takes youand see who maybe comes along
the way.
Before you do go, if peoplewanted to check out your
content, where can they checkyou out?
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Like, please plug all yoursocials away.
Trainer Rem (46:18):
Yes, sir.
Yes sir.
I am on TikTok.
it's gonna betiktok.com/@trainer rem.
I'm on Twitch pretty much all mysocials are the same username,
trainer REM on Twitch,Instagram, Twitter, Facebook and
YouTube.
And I also do have a Discordserver, The Remoraiders HQ, just
for the Raiders community.
David Hernandez (46:36):
Cool beans, and
I'll make sure to include links
to everything he said in thedescription of today's episode.
Here's the sneak peek for thenext episode of As The Pokeball
Turns.