August 23, 2023 • 28 mins
Kyle of the GOCast Podcast gives us a glimpse into his world of Pokémon GO, diving into the thrilling dynamics of Raids and his love for Ghost-type Pokémon. Hear how his chance meeting with co-host Chris at Starbucks led to the creation of one of the most engaging Pokémon podcasts out there. This episode reveals the heart of their creative journey, blending their passion for Pokémon with the world of content creation.
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David Hernandez (01:41):
Welcome to As the Pokeball Turns, where the
stories are real and peoplestill play this game.
On July 1st, 2018, the GoCastpodcast made their entry into
the podcasting world with one cohost asking,"what will we talk
about with Pokemon Go?" Fastforward 5 years later, the show
is continuing strong where nowboth co hosts struggle to keep
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the podcast within an hour and ahalf.
And that's what they call famouslast words.
Along the way, the PVP Cornerhosted by both FishOnAHeater and
DPhiE250 was added to the showto cater to the growing interest
in PVP.
In addition, they have addedother segments such as Gear Up,
Poke Lore, Poke Poll, andE-Mails! in the first part of a
(02:24):
two part series, My guest shareshis perspective on meeting his
co-host at Starbucks, hisexperience with Pokemon and how
his contrarian point of viewprovides a voice and validation
for others.
From Chicago, Illinois, here ishis origin story into the world
of Pokemon Go.
This is GoCastKyle.
today I'm joined by one half ofthe go cast podcast.
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Kyle, Kyle, thank you for comingon to the show.
GO Cast Kyle (02:50):
Thank you for having me.
Also, I have to say it for myfans, but Haya, because that's,
that's how I start every show,by accident originally, and it
became a thing.
David Hernandez (03:01):
Really?
So you would just start likewith Haya whenever you get
GO Cast Kyle (03:03):
I, the, the first, this is not Pokemon Go related,
but the first episode we everrecorded, I was extremely
nervous, and I had noexperience, unlike Chris.
And I said Haya, and it was souncharacteristic of me.
And then I didn't say it thenext week, and our other co host
was like, hey, you didn't sayit, why not?
And then I've said it eversince, and now everyone
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identifies me with it, so,
David Hernandez (03:26):
It's like your own catchphrase.
GO Cast Kyle (03:27):
yeah, there's a few other, and that's a standout
one, for sure.
David Hernandez (03:32):
What are the other ones?
I'm curious.
GO Cast Kyle (03:33):
Uh, I do the, I do e mails when we get to our e
mail segment.
And it's more of the showrelated, but fish like is used
to describe some Pokémon in thePokédex, and it just bothers the
heck out of me, because...
It's used to describe Pokemonthat are just fish like,
Alomomola's dex entry says it'sfish like.
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And I'm like, no, it's just afish.
And now we refer to everythingas fish like because it's lizard
like or snake like.
And I'm like, no, it's just asnake.
David Hernandez (04:04):
Oh, that's fair.
So Ekans would be a snake like,of course, but what if it became
a water type?
Would you call it a fish at thatpoint?
GO Cast Kyle (04:09):
Uh, mm, mm, maybe.
I think, I think an eel typePokemon might get a pass if it
was like that.
David Hernandez (04:17):
Now, people know you as, like, the Negative
Nancy, the Debbie Downer sidethe podcast.
Personally, I think you're justMisunderstood Soul.
Deep down, I think you're filledwith cotton candy, gummy bears,
and sunshine 24/7.
What do you think?
GO Cast Kyle (04:30):
Uh, definitely not.
I'm probably not as negative asa lot of people associate me
with.
I definitely try to present moreof the contrarian aspects to a
lot of things.
It drives people around me crazybecause I'm a contrarian in real
life as well.
But that also tends to be a lotof negative things, especially
when you talk about video gamesand stuff like that.
David Hernandez (04:51):
I guess that's the downside of trying to be a
contrarian, is that people justsee you as, they see you in a
negative light, and they don'tsee what kind of input that can
come from that kind ofperspective.
GO Cast Kyle (05:00):
Yeah, absolutely.
I think it's been within thelast maybe six or eight months,
I kind of realized, whoa, I amactually just being negative
now.
And so now I try to make surethat my negativity has a
Purpose.
It, like, it's serving to move aconversation forward instead of
just putting it down.
David Hernandez (05:16):
No, that's fair.
It's like providing constructivecriticism instead of just having
a good old bitch fest basically,right?
GO Cast Kyle (05:22):
Yeah, absolutely.
David Hernandez (05:23):
So, of course, we're talking about Pokemon Go.
When did you first startplaying?
GO Cast Kyle (05:26):
Oh, so, there's two answers to this one.
I...
am technically a day two,player.
July 7th on my character screenand that will forever haunt me.
I was in college at the time thegame came out, but I was
hopelessly addicted to anothermobile game at the time, and
that game required all of myscreen time.
And so, I didn't play a lot ofGo when it initially came out.
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the gameplay loop at the time,no raids, not much else
happening, didn't appeal to me.
And so I just dropped it.
And it wasn't until 2017 that Imet Chris and he went to the
first GoFest, he's like, yeah,this is still a thing that I re
downloaded it and more or lessfell back in love, at Lavatar
Community Day.
And have never stopped sincethen.
David Hernandez (06:11):
What was the other game that you were hooked
on at the time?
GO Cast Kyle (06:14):
Uh, I mean, I'm still playing and we don't have
to talk
David Hernandez (06:16):
Oh, okay.
GO Cast Kyle (06:17):
it's, uh, it's not, not to the degree I used to
be, because I was in school,obviously, it's called
Summoner's War.
It's a gotcha game, turn based,monster collection, RNG type
stuff like that.
So, it, it satisfied the, themonster collection itch from
Pokemon, for sure, at the time.
David Hernandez (06:34):
So is that kind of like your main person and it
became your side person at thispoint?
And Pokemon Go is like your mainperson or is it still kind of in
between?
GO Cast Kyle (06:41):
Uh, I mean, if, depending on how we classify
gaming time, Pokemon is probablythe side person.
Summoner's War is just like theone you see occasionally, and,
Genshin Impact and Star Rail aremy main games right now.
Which is funny, because I do aPokemon Go podcast, and I still
really like the game, so.
David Hernandez (07:00):
I mean, this is another podcast where the co
host plays Digimon all the timeand very rarely plays Pokemon.
So, I mean, you wouldn't bealone in this.
GO Cast Kyle (07:06):
Oh, you should send that over to Chris.
He might want be on there.
David Hernandez (07:10):
Oh
GO Cast Kyle (07:11):
Chris loves Digimon, and I'm like, I don't
care about Digimon.
David Hernandez (07:15):
my, so going back to when Pokemon Go first
came out, were you part of any,like the big crowds where you'd
like, did you see masses ofpeople anywhere?
GO Cast Kyle (07:22):
No, see, I kick myself for this all the time,
because I went to school, I wentto the University of Illinois at
Chicago.
I was downtown Chicago everysingle day, five days a week,
and I wasn't playing Pokemon Goat the time.
And so I missed all of it.
David Hernandez (07:37):
Wow.
So you missed all the hype andeverything that, went down.
GO Cast Kyle (07:39):
I read about it.
I read about it at the time andI was like, man, I guess I did
miss out.
David Hernandez (07:45):
well, what's your experience with Pokemon
before Pokemon Go?
GO Cast Kyle (07:48):
I started with gen one.
I'm a nineties baby and I don'tknow.
I was probably 6 when I got myred version.
Played the heck out of it.
I played Gen 2.
Gen 3 was when I really fell inlove with the game.
It was the first time Icompleted a Pokedex and it is
overall my favorite generationto this day still.
I've played every Pokemon gamesince, except for Sun and Moon.
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Sun and Moon, I couldn't do it,and I was just like, I have to,
I can't, can't do it.
David Hernandez (08:17):
What was it about sun and moon that kind of
turned you off?
GO Cast Kyle (08:20):
The first third of the game is very hand holdy
scripted.
I was just at a certain point inmy life where I'm like, this is
not enjoyable.
I love Pokemon, I likeeverything else about it, but
the story in this game, and theexperience they're trying to
deliver, It's not made for me,unfortunately.
I've kept current with like thePokemon and stuff like that.
So as sun and moons generationas Alola was coming into go, it
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was an experience for me too,because I'm like, I don't
actually have any opinions aboutthese Pokemon yet, because I
haven't.
Interacted with them.
David Hernandez (08:51):
Do you have a favorite Pokemon at all?
GO Cast Kyle (08:52):
Oh, yeah.
Oh, that's an easy one for me.
It's Gengar.
I love Gengar so much.
I'm the ghost type connoisseur,and I like all ghost types, but
Gengar is easily at the top.
David Hernandez (09:05):
Oh, so ghost types your favorite type of all
time.
GO Cast Kyle (09:07):
Oh, yeah.
Oh, yeah.
David Hernandez (09:08):
Is it'cause of design aesthetic reasons, the
it,
GO Cast Kyle (09:12):
thematically, I think just the theme for Ghost
is so strong overall, and itreally lends itself to some
really creative ideas, as wellas some really stereotypical
ideas, as you have withsomething like Gengar, which is
just something dead, but as aafterlife type thing.
But then you have somethingcrazy like, you know, Palossand,
which is just reanimatedsandcastle.
David Hernandez (09:34):
They're so unique.
Especially what I love aboutghost types, I dunno if you had
a chance to I like the d entriesof a lot of them.
GO Cast Kyle (09:40):
Oh, yeah.
Oh, yeah.
And some of them are like, just,oh, whatever, and then some of
them are like, oh, that actuallygot way more dark than I thought
it was going to.
The, the dex entry for Drifloonand Drifblim is equal parts
funny and terrifying.
David Hernandez (09:55):
Well, let me ask you this.
So, if you were going to have ateam of ghost Pokemon, which six
would you pick?
GO Cast Kyle (10:00):
Alright, alright.
I can do this, so, there'sGengar, for sure.
Aegislash cause that's, that'snumber two.
Love that Pokemon.
Mimikyu cause it's so creative.
Oh, so good.
you gotta have Giratina orGiratino, as we say in the show
for origin form.
David Hernandez (10:17):
Snake Legs, right?
GO Cast Kyle (10:19):
Snake like, snake like ghost.
Um, ooh.
Oh, there's so many good ones.
either Trevenant or Delmise.
The same typing and theming andstuff like that.
I'm gonna say Trevenant becauseDelmise is really like a trick
room kind of guy.
And, Alolan Marowak, I think
David Hernandez (10:36):
Oh my gosh, yes.
GO Cast Kyle (10:38):
that's, I think Alolan Marowak is probably the
best alternative form design ofany of the alternate forms, so,
top tier.
Shedinja a deer one to me too,cause it's, it's a bug ghost.
So it's got the crossover causeChris likes bugs and I like
ghosts.
So it's kind of like the onlyintersection that we have.
David Hernandez (10:53):
It's like, if we combine you two, y'all become
a Shedinja.
GO Cast Kyle (10:56):
Yeah, exactly.
David Hernandez (10:58):
So, you come back to Pokémon Go, and you said
it's because of Tyranitar?
Or Larvitar Community Day?
GO Cast Kyle (11:03):
Well that was the day, that was the event that was
happening, I came back causeChris...
At the time was like, Hey, thisis going on.
You interested?
I'm like, yeah, sure.
I guess.
Why not?
I had no experience with thegame.
I knew nothing.
I was probably like level, Idon't know, 21 at the time.
I played a little bit before Istopped.
And it was water festival at thetime too, so we had Kyogre raids
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and I love Kyogre.
I got a shiny Kyogre on mysecond raid that we did there
and just kind of was like, wow,There's compelling stuff here
now for me.
David Hernandez (11:34):
What was it about, Pokemon Go at that time
that kept you engaged comparedto how it originally didn't?
Like, what was the differencethis time?
GO Cast Kyle (11:41):
two, three major factors.
I want to say number one, firstand foremost, you'll hear a lot
of people say this.
I imagine.
I was playing with other peopleand that was, that was a big
deal.
I was with friends, we were allplaying the game together and we
were bonding over that, eventitself.
Number two is there was an eventhappening.
So something in the gameactually focused the interest
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and really brought it all to theforefront.
And number three was Raids,because Raids didn't exist when
I played the game back in 2016,and I found that really
interesting and a way to getlegendary Pokémon that you
wouldn't otherwise obtain, sothat really kind of was like, I
want to go to that Raid overthere.
Let's go to that Raid overthere.
David Hernandez (12:20):
Are you a huge fan of the Raid system?
Like, would you go out grindingRaids when you did return?
GO Cast Kyle (12:25):
it's a double edged sword.
I love Raiding, but the raidsystem in Go is so bad.
It's so bad.
And I say that having donehundreds and hundreds of raids
over the last five years.
Six years now.
Oh my god, it's been six years.
I love going to the raids.
I love building a team ofPokemon.
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I love working with otherplayers and all of that, but the
actual system of the raiditself, The waiting in the
lobby, the general tap tapping,not as appealing.
And I pray every day for a Raidrework.
David Hernandez (12:58):
Fair enough.
Do you have any ideas of whatyou would like to see added?
GO Cast Kyle (13:02):
I think one thing is ways of interacting with the
system that doesn't require abunch of people.
Going around with just one otherperson and doing raids is a
great experience, but if you'renot highly skilled and depending
on the raid boss, just becauseof the way the game works, it
doesn't matter.
You just can't do it.
a scaling system like that andthings that might reward players
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with better performance, lettingyou decide roles and being maybe
a more supportive role in theraid, there's no real support
option, despite the fact that somany Pokemon are supportive type
Pokemon in the whole game.
Would really, I think, bringmore life to raids.
David Hernandez (13:40):
You've been listening to As the Pokeball
Turns.
We're gonna take a quick break.
We'll be right back.
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so you talked about your cohost,Chris.
You know, he's the other side ofGoCast.
Of course, there's a PvP corner,but how did y'all two meet?
what's y'all story to how y'allwere introduced to each other?
GO Cast Kyle (14:47):
this is a fun one.
I've got to imagine he told theexact same story, but it's fun
to share and I love talkingabout it.
Chris and I worked at Starbuckstogether And over that time, we
kind of bonded over a mutuallove of video games in general,
specifically World of Warcraftat the time, because we were
both really into World ofWarcraft when we were in high
school and so it's veryformative for our opinions on a
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lot of things.
And Pokemon to a lesser extent,but he told me he was going to
go fest in 2017.
I was like, what's that?
He came back and he was a tomatobecause he got sun poisoning
and.
Basically melted in the sun.
after that, he was like, youknow, we could totally do a
podcast about Pokemon go,because he was big in a podcast
in general, he did a podcastabout legal legends, which we
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also share interests in.
And I had no thoughts on that.
I'm like, what are you talkingabout?
There's not enough informationto make a weekly podcast on
Pokemon go.
I don't, I don't, what are wegoing to talk about?
He's like, don't worry, don'tworry.
Don't worry.
I'll take care of it.
We're going to take care of it.
And then he left Starbucks andthen we reconnected over
Larvitar Community Day, and werecorded the first episode right
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before Squirtle Community Day.
And now, six years later, westruggle to keep...
The episodes under two hours,because there's so much to talk
about, so he likes to bring thatup.
So I have to eat crow everytime.
David Hernandez (16:05):
Oh, It's like, like, what are we going to talk
about?
It's like a two hours later.
GO Cast Kyle (16:09):
yeah, exactly, exactly.
We used to be like, oh, it's nota big deal.
And now we're like, okay, Iactually have to go to bed, so,
we can't let this go on toolong.
David Hernandez (16:17):
What was he like as a boss?
I'm the only podcast who couldprobably ask that question right
now.
Like, I don't think anybody'sever thought like, What was he
like, like a boss?
GO Cast Kyle (16:29):
uh, this is fun.
I'm sure he'll listen to this,but he would ask me that
anyways.
But he was, uh, probably toofriendly to be a boss, if I'm
being honest.
He was, not a bad boss, but alot of people saw him more as a
friend than a boss and that canmake things more difficult in
the grand scheme of things, whenyou have to be difficult with
somebody else.
Also he was really not great atmaking schedules at a certain
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point and I still have to givehim grief about that to this
day.
So
David Hernandez (16:55):
Hey, scheduling hard, man.
I used to
GO Cast Kyle (16:56):
it is hard.
I still acknowledge to him.
I'm like, Hey, I know it's hard,but you remember that time where
you didn't schedule more thantwo people and we were supposed
to have four.
Yeah.
David Hernandez (17:06):
And we were the two?
GO Cast Kyle (17:09):
Um,
David Hernandez (17:09):
Oh my gosh.
so eventually y'all started thepodcast.
You don't have any podcastbackground from what I
understand.
Is that correct?
GO Cast Kyle (17:16):
no, I, I listened to podcasts, but that about it.
David Hernandez (17:20):
So what was it like for you to start GoCast
with Chris having no podcastexperience?
GO Cast Kyle (17:25):
I think the thing for me that stands out the most
and it's kind of tied back intomy customer service to Starbucks
because Starbucks was also myfirst customer service
experience of my life.
Being comfortable talking wasreally, really hard.
If you listen to the earlyepisodes of the podcast, and
please don't do that.
It's just, skip to like 50, 50is when we found the groove.
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I was so much less confident inthe way I talked.
I was just a little bit shaky.
I didn't really know the waythat I was going to approach
certain topics or how totransition from one topic to
another.
And those are kind of skills Ideveloped after working with the
podcast for so long.
David Hernandez (18:04):
So how has the podcast changed you as a person,
you think?
Like, what has it given you thatyou wouldn't maybe have obtained
otherwise?
GO Cast Kyle (18:12):
One thing think, just touched on it, but speaking
skills in general, being able totalk to groups is something I
didn't think I'd need to have atany point.
Despite a podcast being, youknow, uh, in our case, a one on
one scenario, we're reallytalking past each other to an
audience, even if the audienceis not visible.
And so that really translateswhen we have meetups and we got
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20, 30 people in a group able tocommunicate to everybody
adequately.
I've been told him like, yeah,you did a really good job of
leading that group there.
I'm like, I wasn't so sure aboutthat.
So thank you for letting me knowthat.
David Hernandez (18:46):
It's a word of confirmation.
GO Cast Kyle (18:47):
and I don't, I don't know if this necessarily
answers it, but the people thatI've met are kind of a big thing
for me.
It's not necessarily how it'schanged me personally, but
having the experience to meet alot of people from around the
country and some from around theglobe has really been great.
David Hernandez (19:01):
I mean, it's crazy because you think about
how you first started.
You know, you didn't even pickup this game and then you're
like, how are we going to starta podcast?
Or what are we going to talkabout for two hours?
You're well known.
You're one of the biggestpodcasts around for Pokemon go
GO Cast Kyle (19:12):
Yeah.
David Hernandez (19:14):
What is it like to think that there's, hundreds
of people, at least who listento you on a regular?
GO Cast Kyle (19:18):
It's kind of surreal.
And I think the real point forme is when somebody Writes us an
email or leaves a message andsays, yeah, I really agree with
what Kyle was saying here andI'm like, somebody actually
agrees with this opinion that Ihad?
It's amazing.
And or I sometimes somebody willsay that they really see
themselves and their opinionsrepresented in the stances that
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I take and I'm like that's agood feeling like that's a good
feeling to let that you knowother people feel represented by
you because I feel that way whenI watch other content when I
watch YouTube or when I listento other podcasts.
David Hernandez (19:52):
it's like you provide a voice for somebody who
may not be certain about theirpoint of view.
It sounds like.
GO Cast Kyle (19:57):
Yeah!
David Hernandez (19:58):
So you'll start the podcast and the first GO
Fest you said you went to was2018.
What was that like for you?
GO Cast Kyle (20:04):
it was not what I was expecting.
There was so much more.
I didn't have any realpreconceived notions, but there
was 15,000 Pokémon Go players inLincoln Park that year.
And it was so much more than Iwas anticipating.
And it was just kind of a greatexperience to exist with all
those players, go and see thehabitats that had been set up,
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catch the Pokémon, at thatpoint, you know, I'm still
completing my Pokédex, so it'san exciting moment for me.
I'm actually like, oh my god, Ineed to catch that Aerodactyl,
are you kidding me?
And other people are like, yeah,I've got 15, 000 Blissey candy.
David Hernandez (20:39):
So what was your favorite part about it?
Was it just the event or
GO Cast Kyle (20:42):
it's kind of a really small part, but it's kind
of stuck with me.
They were doing raffles at eachof the Team Tents that year and
they would spin a wheel and theperson up on the stage would
shout out the question and, it'dbe like, who has the most Great
balls in their inventory today?
Chris was real confident withthat one.
He's like, I've got 550.
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so he raised his hand and theperson behind him was like, I've
got 895.
I think it's just, um, so thatstands out.
And then same, same exactmoment.
Next question was who has theclosest number of Pikachu caught
to the deck century and Pikachuis number 25.
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So who has as close to 25Pikachu caught as possible.
And I had 26 at the time, onlyto get beaten out by like a 10
year old kid standing right infront of me who had 25 and I'm
like, no,
David Hernandez (21:35):
Oh, really?
So you just lost, you barelylost that
GO Cast Kyle (21:37):
yeah, I was like, Oh, at that moment, I'm like, I
will never catch another Pikachuagain.
That's absolutely was a lie.
I kept at it for maybe a month.
But it's it haunts me to thisday.
Those those two interactionswere great.
David Hernandez (21:52):
fast forward a little bit.
So Seattle comes around in 2022What was it like to be a
featured creator for that event?
GO Cast Kyle (21:59):
It was a little bit strange, specifically for
the creator table, because we'rea podcast, so we're more known
for our voice, obviously.
seeing us on, on stage was like,who's that kind of thing, at
least in my mind, we actuallyhad more people come to us than
I was expecting.
So that, that was nice.
But we also hosted raid tours asnotable trainers, and that was
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far more up our alley because wehad done that in the past around
downtown Chicago.
So that was amazing to like have50, 60 plus people walking
behind us, listening to wherewe're directing people to go to
raids.
I think the one thing I realizedwith Go Fest Seattle is that at
this point in my Pokemon Gocareer, One of the biggest
things I go to and play Go foris the community and the
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interactions that I get out ofthat.
I got to play all three days ofGoFest Seattle, fortunately and
I played most of it with aPokeball Plus on my hip and not
actually watching the screenbecause I was able to talk and
meet so many people that hadcome to Seattle for the event
that I knew, and that reallykind of shaped and defined the
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experience.
David Hernandez (23:04):
yeah.
That's awesome.
That's what happened to me too.
Cause I couldn't play looking atmy phone.
Like I tried to, and I was like.
I kind of want to justexperience it.
Just, you know, take it all in,you know,
GO Cast Kyle (23:13):
Yeah, exactly.
It's, it's a, it's anexperience, and that's, that's
kind of a big one with the liveevents, for sure.
David Hernandez (23:21):
Well, cool.
Last question about go fest.
If somebody was on the fenceabout going to go fest.
What would you tell them?
GO Cast Kyle (23:27):
I think if Pokemon go is your main game and you can
afford it, go fast is definitelyworth saving up to do.
It is truly an experience.
if you're really able to, youcan make a whole time of it.
Chris and I are actuallyextending our stay by three days
in New York, so we canexperience New York as well.
You almost can't rival it withanything else that Go has to
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offer and it really is PokemonGo at its best.
David Hernandez (23:52):
Are y'all gonna go to Starbucks and judge, see
how well they're doing, comparedto what y'all remember?
GO Cast Kyle (23:57):
Uh, we probably will go to some Starbucks while
we are there.
For sure.
David Hernandez (24:02):
So, eventually, y'all decide to add the PvP
corner with DPhiE and Fish.
What has the PvP corner meant,to GoCast?
Or how has it added to your showover time, in your opinion?
GO Cast Kyle (24:12):
For me, it's really important because I'm
really capable of acknowledgingwhen I don't know something
about a game.
And also that a lot of peoplewant that information and it's a
very valuable and important partof being relevant and being
recent is to be talking aboutPVP.
So really value that they'reable to bring that to the table,
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and they're really good at ittoo.
David Hernandez (24:35):
Now, Kyle, guess what time it is?
GO Cast Kyle (24:37):
What time is it?
David Hernandez (24:38):
It's time for the PVP corner! Now Kyle.
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I have talked to bothFishOnTheHeater and DPhiE and
they have provided fivequestions to see how well do you
know your PVP, and to see whoknows more PVP between you and
Chris.
What do you think?
GO Cast Kyle (25:24):
I think it's gonna depend on the questions, but
probably Chris.
David Hernandez (25:28):
So you think Chris knows more about PVP than
you do?
GO Cast Kyle (25:30):
Yes.
David Hernandez (25:32):
There's only one way to find out.
You ready?
GO Cast Kyle (25:33):
Yeah.
David Hernandez (25:35):
What does C M P stand for?
GO Cast Kyle (25:37):
charge move priority.
David Hernandez (25:39):
There we go.
You got one?
All right.
Question two, what is Gengar'styping?
GO Cast Kyle (25:47):
This is ghost poison.
David Hernandez (25:50):
There we go.
All right.
Two outta five.
We got three more.
Which ghost move has the lowestenergy per turn?
GO Cast Kyle (25:57):
lowest energy per turn.
Oh, no, I can only think of two,and I know they're both wrong.
Hang on.
Well, I know they're both good.
Um, is it Hex?
David Hernandez (26:07):
No,
GO Cast Kyle (26:08):
Dang.
Okay.
David Hernandez (26:09):
it's, uh, lick.
GO Cast Kyle (26:10):
Ah, okay.
Yeah.
David Hernandez (26:12):
All right.
Next question.
You got, uh, two outta three sofar.
Number four, a haunter faces aBeedrill in great league.
In a no shield scenario, witheach Pokemon at full health,
which Pokemon wins?
GO Cast Kyle (26:26):
I mean, it's a coin flip, but I absolutely have
no idea.
I'm gonna say it's Beedrill.
David Hernandez (26:32):
Wow, no faith in your ghost Pokemon.
Wow, you call
GO Cast Kyle (26:35):
Beedrill knows, uh, Beedrill knows Bulldoze, or
is it Drill Run?
One of those two type movesgonna eviscerate the Haunter.
David Hernandez (26:43):
That's fair, that's fair, that's fair.
the answer actually is Haunter.
Haunter
GO Cast Kyle (26:46):
Ah, okay.
Well, that's fair.
I mean, I had no clue.
David Hernandez (26:50):
Alright, last question, last question.
Which ghost charge move has a20% chance of decreasing the
opponent's defense?
GO Cast Kyle (26:57):
Um, is that ominous wind?
David Hernandez (27:01):
It is Shadow Bone,
GO Cast Kyle (27:02):
Okay.
Okay.
David Hernandez (27:04):
so 2 out of 5, 2 out of 5.
Now to find out who wins betweenthem two, you have to check out
Chris's episode.
But that is the episode, Kyle.
Thank you for coming on theshow.
If people want to check outcontent at GoCast, where could
they go?
By all means, please plug away.
GO Cast Kyle (27:19):
Oh, man.
Oh no, Chris does this oneusually but you can find us
anywhere that podcasts arehosted, Spotify or Apple
Podcasts, or on Twitter@GOCastPodcast.
GOCastPodcast.com and prettymuch anywhere you can find us,
go Cast podcast in particular.
all four of those words, bringthis up online.
David Hernandez (27:36):
And I'll make sure to include links to
everything he said in thedescription of today's episode.
Thank you for listening to Asthe Pokeball Turns.
If you want to support the show,consider becoming a patron by
either clicking the link in thedescription or going to
patreon.com/asthepokeballturns.
Now here's a sneak peek for thenext episode of As the Pokeball
Turns.
Welcome to As the Pokeball Turns, where the
stories are real and peoplestill play this game.
On July 1st, 2018, the GoCastpodcast made their entry into
the podcasting world with one cohost asking,"what will we talk
about with Pokemon Go?" Fastforward 5 years later, the show
is continuing strong where nowboth co hosts struggle to keep
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the podcast within an hour and ahalf.
And that's what they call famouslast words.
Along the way, the PVP Cornerhosted by both FishOnAHeater and
DPhiE250 was added to the showto cater to the growing interest
in PVP.
In addition, they have addedother segments such as Gear Up,
Poke Lore, Poke Poll, andE-Mails! in the first part of a
(02:24):
two part series, My guest shareshis perspective on meeting his
co-host at Starbucks, hisexperience with Pokemon and how
his contrarian point of viewprovides a voice and validation
for others.
From Chicago, Illinois, here ishis origin story into the world
of Pokemon Go.
This is GoCastKyle.
today I'm joined by one half ofthe go cast podcast.
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Kyle, Kyle, thank you for comingon to the show.
GO Cast Kyle (02:50):
Thank you for having me.
Also, I have to say it for myfans, but Haya, because that's,
that's how I start every show,by accident originally, and it
became a thing.
David Hernandez (03:01):
Really?
So you would just start likewith Haya whenever you get
GO Cast Kyle (03:03):
I, the, the first, this is not Pokemon Go related,
but the first episode we everrecorded, I was extremely
nervous, and I had noexperience, unlike Chris.
And I said Haya, and it was souncharacteristic of me.
And then I didn't say it thenext week, and our other co host
was like, hey, you didn't sayit, why not?
And then I've said it eversince, and now everyone
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identifies me with it, so,
David Hernandez (03:26):
It's like your own catchphrase.
GO Cast Kyle (03:27):
yeah, there's a few other, and that's a standout
one, for sure.
David Hernandez (03:32):
What are the other ones?
I'm curious.
GO Cast Kyle (03:33):
Uh, I do the, I do e mails when we get to our e
mail segment.
And it's more of the showrelated, but fish like is used
to describe some Pokémon in thePokédex, and it just bothers the
heck out of me, because...
It's used to describe Pokemonthat are just fish like,
Alomomola's dex entry says it'sfish like.
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And I'm like, no, it's just afish.
And now we refer to everythingas fish like because it's lizard
like or snake like.
And I'm like, no, it's just asnake.
David Hernandez (04:04):
Oh, that's fair.
So Ekans would be a snake like,of course, but what if it became
a water type?
Would you call it a fish at thatpoint?
GO Cast Kyle (04:09):
Uh, mm, mm, maybe.
I think, I think an eel typePokemon might get a pass if it
was like that.
David Hernandez (04:17):
Now, people know you as, like, the Negative
Nancy, the Debbie Downer sidethe podcast.
Personally, I think you're justMisunderstood Soul.
Deep down, I think you're filledwith cotton candy, gummy bears,
and sunshine 24/7.
What do you think?
GO Cast Kyle (04:30):
Uh, definitely not.
I'm probably not as negative asa lot of people associate me
with.
I definitely try to present moreof the contrarian aspects to a
lot of things.
It drives people around me crazybecause I'm a contrarian in real
life as well.
But that also tends to be a lotof negative things, especially
when you talk about video gamesand stuff like that.
David Hernandez (04:51):
I guess that's the downside of trying to be a
contrarian, is that people justsee you as, they see you in a
negative light, and they don'tsee what kind of input that can
come from that kind ofperspective.
GO Cast Kyle (05:00):
Yeah, absolutely.
I think it's been within thelast maybe six or eight months,
I kind of realized, whoa, I amactually just being negative
now.
And so now I try to make surethat my negativity has a
Purpose.
It, like, it's serving to move aconversation forward instead of
just putting it down.
David Hernandez (05:16):
No, that's fair.
It's like providing constructivecriticism instead of just having
a good old bitch fest basically,right?
GO Cast Kyle (05:22):
Yeah, absolutely.
David Hernandez (05:23):
So, of course, we're talking about Pokemon Go.
When did you first startplaying?
GO Cast Kyle (05:26):
Oh, so, there's two answers to this one.
I...
am technically a day two,player.
July 7th on my character screenand that will forever haunt me.
I was in college at the time thegame came out, but I was
hopelessly addicted to anothermobile game at the time, and
that game required all of myscreen time.
And so, I didn't play a lot ofGo when it initially came out.
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the gameplay loop at the time,no raids, not much else
happening, didn't appeal to me.
And so I just dropped it.
And it wasn't until 2017 that Imet Chris and he went to the
first GoFest, he's like, yeah,this is still a thing that I re
downloaded it and more or lessfell back in love, at Lavatar
Community Day.
And have never stopped sincethen.
David Hernandez (06:11):
What was the other game that you were hooked
on at the time?
GO Cast Kyle (06:14):
Uh, I mean, I'm still playing and we don't have
to talk
David Hernandez (06:16):
Oh, okay.
GO Cast Kyle (06:17):
it's, uh, it's not, not to the degree I used to
be, because I was in school,obviously, it's called
Summoner's War.
It's a gotcha game, turn based,monster collection, RNG type
stuff like that.
So, it, it satisfied the, themonster collection itch from
Pokemon, for sure, at the time.
David Hernandez (06:34):
So is that kind of like your main person and it
became your side person at thispoint?
And Pokemon Go is like your mainperson or is it still kind of in
between?
GO Cast Kyle (06:41):
Uh, I mean, if, depending on how we classify
gaming time, Pokemon is probablythe side person.
Summoner's War is just like theone you see occasionally, and,
Genshin Impact and Star Rail aremy main games right now.
Which is funny, because I do aPokemon Go podcast, and I still
really like the game, so.
David Hernandez (07:00):
I mean, this is another podcast where the co
host plays Digimon all the timeand very rarely plays Pokemon.
So, I mean, you wouldn't bealone in this.
GO Cast Kyle (07:06):
Oh, you should send that over to Chris.
He might want be on there.
David Hernandez (07:10):
Oh
GO Cast Kyle (07:11):
Chris loves Digimon, and I'm like, I don't
care about Digimon.
David Hernandez (07:15):
my, so going back to when Pokemon Go first
came out, were you part of any,like the big crowds where you'd
like, did you see masses ofpeople anywhere?
GO Cast Kyle (07:22):
No, see, I kick myself for this all the time,
because I went to school, I wentto the University of Illinois at
Chicago.
I was downtown Chicago everysingle day, five days a week,
and I wasn't playing Pokemon Goat the time.
And so I missed all of it.
David Hernandez (07:37):
Wow.
So you missed all the hype andeverything that, went down.
GO Cast Kyle (07:39):
I read about it.
I read about it at the time andI was like, man, I guess I did
miss out.
David Hernandez (07:45):
well, what's your experience with Pokemon
before Pokemon Go?
GO Cast Kyle (07:48):
I started with gen one.
I'm a nineties baby and I don'tknow.
I was probably 6 when I got myred version.
Played the heck out of it.
I played Gen 2.
Gen 3 was when I really fell inlove with the game.
It was the first time Icompleted a Pokedex and it is
overall my favorite generationto this day still.
I've played every Pokemon gamesince, except for Sun and Moon.
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Sun and Moon, I couldn't do it,and I was just like, I have to,
I can't, can't do it.
David Hernandez (08:17):
What was it about sun and moon that kind of
turned you off?
GO Cast Kyle (08:20):
The first third of the game is very hand holdy
scripted.
I was just at a certain point inmy life where I'm like, this is
not enjoyable.
I love Pokemon, I likeeverything else about it, but
the story in this game, and theexperience they're trying to
deliver, It's not made for me,unfortunately.
I've kept current with like thePokemon and stuff like that.
So as sun and moons generationas Alola was coming into go, it
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was an experience for me too,because I'm like, I don't
actually have any opinions aboutthese Pokemon yet, because I
haven't.
Interacted with them.
David Hernandez (08:51):
Do you have a favorite Pokemon at all?
GO Cast Kyle (08:52):
Oh, yeah.
Oh, that's an easy one for me.
It's Gengar.
I love Gengar so much.
I'm the ghost type connoisseur,and I like all ghost types, but
Gengar is easily at the top.
David Hernandez (09:05):
Oh, so ghost types your favorite type of all
time.
GO Cast Kyle (09:07):
Oh, yeah.
Oh, yeah.
David Hernandez (09:08):
Is it'cause of design aesthetic reasons, the
it,
GO Cast Kyle (09:12):
thematically, I think just the theme for Ghost
is so strong overall, and itreally lends itself to some
really creative ideas, as wellas some really stereotypical
ideas, as you have withsomething like Gengar, which is
just something dead, but as aafterlife type thing.
But then you have somethingcrazy like, you know, Palossand,
which is just reanimatedsandcastle.
David Hernandez (09:34):
They're so unique.
Especially what I love aboutghost types, I dunno if you had
a chance to I like the d entriesof a lot of them.
GO Cast Kyle (09:40):
Oh, yeah.
Oh, yeah.
And some of them are like, just,oh, whatever, and then some of
them are like, oh, that actuallygot way more dark than I thought
it was going to.
The, the dex entry for Drifloonand Drifblim is equal parts
funny and terrifying.
David Hernandez (09:55):
Well, let me ask you this.
So, if you were going to have ateam of ghost Pokemon, which six
would you pick?
GO Cast Kyle (10:00):
Alright, alright.
I can do this, so, there'sGengar, for sure.
Aegislash cause that's, that'snumber two.
Love that Pokemon.
Mimikyu cause it's so creative.
Oh, so good.
you gotta have Giratina orGiratino, as we say in the show
for origin form.
David Hernandez (10:17):
Snake Legs, right?
GO Cast Kyle (10:19):
Snake like, snake like ghost.
Um, ooh.
Oh, there's so many good ones.
either Trevenant or Delmise.
The same typing and theming andstuff like that.
I'm gonna say Trevenant becauseDelmise is really like a trick
room kind of guy.
And, Alolan Marowak, I think
David Hernandez (10:36):
Oh my gosh, yes.
GO Cast Kyle (10:38):
that's, I think Alolan Marowak is probably the
best alternative form design ofany of the alternate forms, so,
top tier.
Shedinja a deer one to me too,cause it's, it's a bug ghost.
So it's got the crossover causeChris likes bugs and I like
ghosts.
So it's kind of like the onlyintersection that we have.
David Hernandez (10:53):
It's like, if we combine you two, y'all become
a Shedinja.
GO Cast Kyle (10:56):
Yeah, exactly.
David Hernandez (10:58):
So, you come back to Pokémon Go, and you said
it's because of Tyranitar?
Or Larvitar Community Day?
GO Cast Kyle (11:03):
Well that was the day, that was the event that was
happening, I came back causeChris...
At the time was like, Hey, thisis going on.
You interested?
I'm like, yeah, sure.
I guess.
Why not?
I had no experience with thegame.
I knew nothing.
I was probably like level, Idon't know, 21 at the time.
I played a little bit before Istopped.
And it was water festival at thetime too, so we had Kyogre raids
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and I love Kyogre.
I got a shiny Kyogre on mysecond raid that we did there
and just kind of was like, wow,There's compelling stuff here
now for me.
David Hernandez (11:34):
What was it about, Pokemon Go at that time
that kept you engaged comparedto how it originally didn't?
Like, what was the differencethis time?
GO Cast Kyle (11:41):
two, three major factors.
I want to say number one, firstand foremost, you'll hear a lot
of people say this.
I imagine.
I was playing with other peopleand that was, that was a big
deal.
I was with friends, we were allplaying the game together and we
were bonding over that, eventitself.
Number two is there was an eventhappening.
So something in the gameactually focused the interest
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and really brought it all to theforefront.
And number three was Raids,because Raids didn't exist when
I played the game back in 2016,and I found that really
interesting and a way to getlegendary Pokémon that you
wouldn't otherwise obtain, sothat really kind of was like, I
want to go to that Raid overthere.
Let's go to that Raid overthere.
David Hernandez (12:20):
Are you a huge fan of the Raid system?
Like, would you go out grindingRaids when you did return?
GO Cast Kyle (12:25):
it's a double edged sword.
I love Raiding, but the raidsystem in Go is so bad.
It's so bad.
And I say that having donehundreds and hundreds of raids
over the last five years.
Six years now.
Oh my god, it's been six years.
I love going to the raids.
I love building a team ofPokemon.
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I love working with otherplayers and all of that, but the
actual system of the raiditself, The waiting in the
lobby, the general tap tapping,not as appealing.
And I pray every day for a Raidrework.
David Hernandez (12:58):
Fair enough.
Do you have any ideas of whatyou would like to see added?
GO Cast Kyle (13:02):
I think one thing is ways of interacting with the
system that doesn't require abunch of people.
Going around with just one otherperson and doing raids is a
great experience, but if you'renot highly skilled and depending
on the raid boss, just becauseof the way the game works, it
doesn't matter.
You just can't do it.
a scaling system like that andthings that might reward players
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with better performance, lettingyou decide roles and being maybe
a more supportive role in theraid, there's no real support
option, despite the fact that somany Pokemon are supportive type
Pokemon in the whole game.
Would really, I think, bringmore life to raids.
David Hernandez (13:40):
You've been listening to As the Pokeball
Turns.
We're gonna take a quick break.
We'll be right back.
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so you talked about your cohost,Chris.
You know, he's the other side ofGoCast.
Of course, there's a PvP corner,but how did y'all two meet?
what's y'all story to how y'allwere introduced to each other?
GO Cast Kyle (14:47):
this is a fun one.
I've got to imagine he told theexact same story, but it's fun
to share and I love talkingabout it.
Chris and I worked at Starbuckstogether And over that time, we
kind of bonded over a mutuallove of video games in general,
specifically World of Warcraftat the time, because we were
both really into World ofWarcraft when we were in high
school and so it's veryformative for our opinions on a
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lot of things.
And Pokemon to a lesser extent,but he told me he was going to
go fest in 2017.
I was like, what's that?
He came back and he was a tomatobecause he got sun poisoning
and.
Basically melted in the sun.
after that, he was like, youknow, we could totally do a
podcast about Pokemon go,because he was big in a podcast
in general, he did a podcastabout legal legends, which we
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also share interests in.
And I had no thoughts on that.
I'm like, what are you talkingabout?
There's not enough informationto make a weekly podcast on
Pokemon go.
I don't, I don't, what are wegoing to talk about?
He's like, don't worry, don'tworry.
Don't worry.
I'll take care of it.
We're going to take care of it.
And then he left Starbucks andthen we reconnected over
Larvitar Community Day, and werecorded the first episode right
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before Squirtle Community Day.
And now, six years later, westruggle to keep...
The episodes under two hours,because there's so much to talk
about, so he likes to bring thatup.
So I have to eat crow everytime.
David Hernandez (16:05):
Oh, It's like, like, what are we going to talk
about?
It's like a two hours later.
GO Cast Kyle (16:09):
yeah, exactly, exactly.
We used to be like, oh, it's nota big deal.
And now we're like, okay, Iactually have to go to bed, so,
we can't let this go on toolong.
David Hernandez (16:17):
What was he like as a boss?
I'm the only podcast who couldprobably ask that question right
now.
Like, I don't think anybody'sever thought like, What was he
like, like a boss?
GO Cast Kyle (16:29):
uh, this is fun.
I'm sure he'll listen to this,but he would ask me that
anyways.
But he was, uh, probably toofriendly to be a boss, if I'm
being honest.
He was, not a bad boss, but alot of people saw him more as a
friend than a boss and that canmake things more difficult in
the grand scheme of things, whenyou have to be difficult with
somebody else.
Also he was really not great atmaking schedules at a certain
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point and I still have to givehim grief about that to this
day.
So
David Hernandez (16:55):
Hey, scheduling hard, man.
I used to
GO Cast Kyle (16:56):
it is hard.
I still acknowledge to him.
I'm like, Hey, I know it's hard,but you remember that time where
you didn't schedule more thantwo people and we were supposed
to have four.
Yeah.
David Hernandez (17:06):
And we were the two?
GO Cast Kyle (17:09):
Um,
David Hernandez (17:09):
Oh my gosh.
so eventually y'all started thepodcast.
You don't have any podcastbackground from what I
understand.
Is that correct?
GO Cast Kyle (17:16):
no, I, I listened to podcasts, but that about it.
David Hernandez (17:20):
So what was it like for you to start GoCast
with Chris having no podcastexperience?
GO Cast Kyle (17:25):
I think the thing for me that stands out the most
and it's kind of tied back intomy customer service to Starbucks
because Starbucks was also myfirst customer service
experience of my life.
Being comfortable talking wasreally, really hard.
If you listen to the earlyepisodes of the podcast, and
please don't do that.
It's just, skip to like 50, 50is when we found the groove.
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I was so much less confident inthe way I talked.
I was just a little bit shaky.
I didn't really know the waythat I was going to approach
certain topics or how totransition from one topic to
another.
And those are kind of skills Ideveloped after working with the
podcast for so long.
David Hernandez (18:04):
So how has the podcast changed you as a person,
you think?
Like, what has it given you thatyou wouldn't maybe have obtained
otherwise?
GO Cast Kyle (18:12):
One thing think, just touched on it, but speaking
skills in general, being able totalk to groups is something I
didn't think I'd need to have atany point.
Despite a podcast being, youknow, uh, in our case, a one on
one scenario, we're reallytalking past each other to an
audience, even if the audienceis not visible.
And so that really translateswhen we have meetups and we got
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20, 30 people in a group able tocommunicate to everybody
adequately.
I've been told him like, yeah,you did a really good job of
leading that group there.
I'm like, I wasn't so sure aboutthat.
So thank you for letting me knowthat.
David Hernandez (18:46):
It's a word of confirmation.
GO Cast Kyle (18:47):
and I don't, I don't know if this necessarily
answers it, but the people thatI've met are kind of a big thing
for me.
It's not necessarily how it'schanged me personally, but
having the experience to meet alot of people from around the
country and some from around theglobe has really been great.
David Hernandez (19:01):
I mean, it's crazy because you think about
how you first started.
You know, you didn't even pickup this game and then you're
like, how are we going to starta podcast?
Or what are we going to talkabout for two hours?
You're well known.
You're one of the biggestpodcasts around for Pokemon go
GO Cast Kyle (19:12):
Yeah.
David Hernandez (19:14):
What is it like to think that there's, hundreds
of people, at least who listento you on a regular?
GO Cast Kyle (19:18):
It's kind of surreal.
And I think the real point forme is when somebody Writes us an
email or leaves a message andsays, yeah, I really agree with
what Kyle was saying here andI'm like, somebody actually
agrees with this opinion that Ihad?
It's amazing.
And or I sometimes somebody willsay that they really see
themselves and their opinionsrepresented in the stances that
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I take and I'm like that's agood feeling like that's a good
feeling to let that you knowother people feel represented by
you because I feel that way whenI watch other content when I
watch YouTube or when I listento other podcasts.
David Hernandez (19:52):
it's like you provide a voice for somebody who
may not be certain about theirpoint of view.
It sounds like.
GO Cast Kyle (19:57):
Yeah!
David Hernandez (19:58):
So you'll start the podcast and the first GO
Fest you said you went to was2018.
What was that like for you?
GO Cast Kyle (20:04):
it was not what I was expecting.
There was so much more.
I didn't have any realpreconceived notions, but there
was 15,000 Pokémon Go players inLincoln Park that year.
And it was so much more than Iwas anticipating.
And it was just kind of a greatexperience to exist with all
those players, go and see thehabitats that had been set up,
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catch the Pokémon, at thatpoint, you know, I'm still
completing my Pokédex, so it'san exciting moment for me.
I'm actually like, oh my god, Ineed to catch that Aerodactyl,
are you kidding me?
And other people are like, yeah,I've got 15, 000 Blissey candy.
David Hernandez (20:39):
So what was your favorite part about it?
Was it just the event or
GO Cast Kyle (20:42):
it's kind of a really small part, but it's kind
of stuck with me.
They were doing raffles at eachof the Team Tents that year and
they would spin a wheel and theperson up on the stage would
shout out the question and, it'dbe like, who has the most Great
balls in their inventory today?
Chris was real confident withthat one.
He's like, I've got 550.
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so he raised his hand and theperson behind him was like, I've
got 895.
I think it's just, um, so thatstands out.
And then same, same exactmoment.
Next question was who has theclosest number of Pikachu caught
to the deck century and Pikachuis number 25.
(21:23):
So who has as close to 25Pikachu caught as possible.
And I had 26 at the time, onlyto get beaten out by like a 10
year old kid standing right infront of me who had 25 and I'm
like, no,
David Hernandez (21:35):
Oh, really?
So you just lost, you barelylost that
GO Cast Kyle (21:37):
yeah, I was like, Oh, at that moment, I'm like, I
will never catch another Pikachuagain.
That's absolutely was a lie.
I kept at it for maybe a month.
But it's it haunts me to thisday.
Those those two interactionswere great.
David Hernandez (21:52):
fast forward a little bit.
So Seattle comes around in 2022What was it like to be a
featured creator for that event?
GO Cast Kyle (21:59):
It was a little bit strange, specifically for
the creator table, because we'rea podcast, so we're more known
for our voice, obviously.
seeing us on, on stage was like,who's that kind of thing, at
least in my mind, we actuallyhad more people come to us than
I was expecting.
So that, that was nice.
But we also hosted raid tours asnotable trainers, and that was
(22:21):
far more up our alley because wehad done that in the past around
downtown Chicago.
So that was amazing to like have50, 60 plus people walking
behind us, listening to wherewe're directing people to go to
raids.
I think the one thing I realizedwith Go Fest Seattle is that at
this point in my Pokemon Gocareer, One of the biggest
things I go to and play Go foris the community and the
(22:42):
interactions that I get out ofthat.
I got to play all three days ofGoFest Seattle, fortunately and
I played most of it with aPokeball Plus on my hip and not
actually watching the screenbecause I was able to talk and
meet so many people that hadcome to Seattle for the event
that I knew, and that reallykind of shaped and defined the
(23:02):
experience.
David Hernandez (23:04):
yeah.
That's awesome.
That's what happened to me too.
Cause I couldn't play looking atmy phone.
Like I tried to, and I was like.
I kind of want to justexperience it.
Just, you know, take it all in,you know,
GO Cast Kyle (23:13):
Yeah, exactly.
It's, it's a, it's anexperience, and that's, that's
kind of a big one with the liveevents, for sure.
David Hernandez (23:21):
Well, cool.
Last question about go fest.
If somebody was on the fenceabout going to go fest.
What would you tell them?
GO Cast Kyle (23:27):
I think if Pokemon go is your main game and you can
afford it, go fast is definitelyworth saving up to do.
It is truly an experience.
if you're really able to, youcan make a whole time of it.
Chris and I are actuallyextending our stay by three days
in New York, so we canexperience New York as well.
You almost can't rival it withanything else that Go has to
(23:48):
offer and it really is PokemonGo at its best.
David Hernandez (23:52):
Are y'all gonna go to Starbucks and judge, see
how well they're doing, comparedto what y'all remember?
GO Cast Kyle (23:57):
Uh, we probably will go to some Starbucks while
we are there.
For sure.
David Hernandez (24:02):
So, eventually, y'all decide to add the PvP
corner with DPhiE and Fish.
What has the PvP corner meant,to GoCast?
Or how has it added to your showover time, in your opinion?
GO Cast Kyle (24:12):
For me, it's really important because I'm
really capable of acknowledgingwhen I don't know something
about a game.
And also that a lot of peoplewant that information and it's a
very valuable and important partof being relevant and being
recent is to be talking aboutPVP.
So really value that they'reable to bring that to the table,
(24:32):
and they're really good at ittoo.
David Hernandez (24:35):
Now, Kyle, guess what time it is?
GO Cast Kyle (24:37):
What time is it?
David Hernandez (24:38):
It's time for the PVP corner! Now Kyle.
(25:12):
I have talked to bothFishOnTheHeater and DPhiE and
they have provided fivequestions to see how well do you
know your PVP, and to see whoknows more PVP between you and
Chris.
What do you think?
GO Cast Kyle (25:24):
I think it's gonna depend on the questions, but
probably Chris.
David Hernandez (25:28):
So you think Chris knows more about PVP than
you do?
GO Cast Kyle (25:30):
Yes.
David Hernandez (25:32):
There's only one way to find out.
You ready?
GO Cast Kyle (25:33):
Yeah.
David Hernandez (25:35):
What does C M P stand for?
GO Cast Kyle (25:37):
charge move priority.
David Hernandez (25:39):
There we go.
You got one?
All right.
Question two, what is Gengar'styping?
GO Cast Kyle (25:47):
This is ghost poison.
David Hernandez (25:50):
There we go.
All right.
Two outta five.
We got three more.
Which ghost move has the lowestenergy per turn?
GO Cast Kyle (25:57):
lowest energy per turn.
Oh, no, I can only think of two,and I know they're both wrong.
Hang on.
Well, I know they're both good.
Um, is it Hex?
David Hernandez (26:07):
No,
GO Cast Kyle (26:08):
Dang.
Okay.
David Hernandez (26:09):
it's, uh, lick.
GO Cast Kyle (26:10):
Ah, okay.
Yeah.
David Hernandez (26:12):
All right.
Next question.
You got, uh, two outta three sofar.
Number four, a haunter faces aBeedrill in great league.
In a no shield scenario, witheach Pokemon at full health,
which Pokemon wins?
GO Cast Kyle (26:26):
I mean, it's a coin flip, but I absolutely have
no idea.
I'm gonna say it's Beedrill.
David Hernandez (26:32):
Wow, no faith in your ghost Pokemon.
Wow, you call
GO Cast Kyle (26:35):
Beedrill knows, uh, Beedrill knows Bulldoze, or
is it Drill Run?
One of those two type movesgonna eviscerate the Haunter.
David Hernandez (26:43):
That's fair, that's fair, that's fair.
the answer actually is Haunter.
Haunter
GO Cast Kyle (26:46):
Ah, okay.
Well, that's fair.
I mean, I had no clue.
David Hernandez (26:50):
Alright, last question, last question.
Which ghost charge move has a20% chance of decreasing the
opponent's defense?
GO Cast Kyle (26:57):
Um, is that ominous wind?
David Hernandez (27:01):
It is Shadow Bone,
GO Cast Kyle (27:02):
Okay.
Okay.
David Hernandez (27:04):
so 2 out of 5, 2 out of 5.
Now to find out who wins betweenthem two, you have to check out
Chris's episode.
But that is the episode, Kyle.
Thank you for coming on theshow.
If people want to check outcontent at GoCast, where could
they go?
By all means, please plug away.
GO Cast Kyle (27:19):
Oh, man.
Oh no, Chris does this oneusually but you can find us
anywhere that podcasts arehosted, Spotify or Apple
Podcasts, or on Twitter@GOCastPodcast.
GOCastPodcast.com and prettymuch anywhere you can find us,
go Cast podcast in particular.
all four of those words, bringthis up online.
David Hernandez (27:36):
And I'll make sure to include links to
everything he said in thedescription of today's episode.
Thank you for listening to Asthe Pokeball Turns.
If you want to support the show,consider becoming a patron by
either clicking the link in thedescription or going to
patreon.com/asthepokeballturns.
Now here's a sneak peek for thenext episode of As the Pokeball
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