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24:46 Human Mindset and Purpose
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AI platform, they has an IQ of about 150.
Einstein had an IQ of 170. By the end of this year, these
AI platforms are going to have an IQ of around 1000 to 1500.
What will you be doing in that world?
MIT Manoj Agarwal, the founder and chief innovation officer at
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Tetra Noodle Technologies, an elite AI engineering company.
People who are going to lose thejob or have difficulty are not
the people who will stay scared of AI.
They will be the people, people who actually understand it.
In today's episode, he shares how you can leverage your
digital twin, a super intelligent version of yourself,
in order to grow in every way imaginable.
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On top of that, we dissect how our subconscious mind is
controlling almost everything that we do and how you can
leverage technology in order to address that and how to start
the business by solving your ownproblem with the help of AI.
Most people only focus on the logical.
Logical part will control about 5 to 10% of your life and
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actions, but the subconscious mind will control 90 to 95% of
your life and actions. With a remarkable track record
of driving transformative change, Madhush through Tetra
Noodle has touched at least 10 million lives and generated over
500,000,000 in the value to his expertise in technology and AI.
His AI implementation framework that we discussed today have
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been peer reviewed and publishedin the Mensa Research Journal.
When you have a super intelligent digital twin, it
takes 15 minutes for it to tell you what your purpose of life
is. If you're scared that AI will
make you irrelevant, I have goodnews for you.
You can succeed, be fulfilled, and still thrive as a coach or
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as a consultant without cheatingclients all the time or being
scared that AI will replace you.If you want to build a
sustainable business that fulfills you in 2025 and beyond,
make sure to click the first link in the description and I'll
be there to guide you. Now let's dive into today's
episode. Manoj, welcome to Authority in
the World. Thank you, thank you, thank you.
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Excited to be here. Honour to have you and I'm
really intrigued by your story. Since you didn't start in the
boardroom, you start working fortwo US dollars a day in a
factory in Punjab. How that start in life shape the
man you are today. It's very interesting question.
You know, going through that process was quite difficult, you
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know, hard work, not knowing where life is going to take you.
But eventually when I look back,it was a blessing for me because
it created a very good foundation, strong foundation of
hard work. First of all, right.
And also anything in life you cannot do alone.
So you have to coordinate everything with people.
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People may be good people, not good people, like kind people,
rude people, whatever, right? So you have to work with people.
And it taught me the importance of how to, you know, work on
complex things with people, how to be precise.
Because in a factory you have tomake sure that everything that
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you do is precise. If there is any misalignment,
you will not know until 10,000 widgets have been produced and
that will be a waste of money. So you have to monitor every
process like in real time and make sure every step is quality
assured, right? So a lot of these things at that
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time, it was a difficult job. OK, I have to do it man, like
OK, I have to take care of. But then it seeded my mind with
all these qualities that now I can use, I automatically use in
my work and that was a good thing.
Absolutely, because all those hardship shape manage from
today. And Speaking of hard work,
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because that's those words caught my attention, how
important hard work still is in today's world where everyone is
telling us that AI will help us live a more fulfilling life and
we'll be able to do a lot of things that you have a lot of
things without much hard work. How true is that?
An excellent question. I agree with that.
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I think the days of like teaching hard work is the only
way to get ahead are over. I think because the with the
invention of AI, we don't need to rely on our logical mind to
find solutions to our problems. OK, So what we really from now
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onwards, moving forward, AI is going to be the way to solve
problems. Because today, for example, I'll
share this statistic with you. So ChatGPT or any other AI
platform today has an IQ of about 150.
Einstein had an IQ of 170, OK. And as ChatGPT 5 is almost
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coming by the end of this year, these AI platforms are going to
have an IQ of around 1000 to 1500.
That is saying yeah. Yeah.
So now what will you be doing inthat world?
The role of humans will not be to work hard or to work 406080
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hours a week. It will be to communicate with
other human beings, to observe the world and understand what
are the challenges faced by other humans.
What does the world need? What is the value you can create
using AI? And so once you figure that out,
then you can just turn to AI andsay, hey, this is a problem I
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found, can you help me solve it in a proper way?
And then you create that value in the world.
So in a way, the life will become less about like hard
work, It will be more about observation, communication,
empathy, those type of things. And this sounds to me like
almost going a bit back in time where you must spend a lot of
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time in tribes communicating to each other and trying to figure
out the basics like how we find food today or similar things.
But of course now the problems and the challenges they will
face are different. And in this world in which we
are kind of disconnected now from communicating with others,
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even that social media platform promised to connect us, but it's
actually we are more disconnected than ever, like
scrolling and bunch of other things that like the downsides
of technology. How will you be able to do that?
Like, how do you plan for that future in which we need to more
be even more connected, even more involving in the nearby
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communities and so on? You see, you have such
insightful questions. So first of all, I will just
want to recognize that every question has is like triggering
deep thoughts here and now. The thing is, every human has
strength, power inside them and also insecurities inside them,
OK, And social media and these type of platforms, it's nothing
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but AI. It's actually just AI algorithm.
Now, the way that social media platforms typically have been
fine-tuned and AI is very good at fine tuning itself to get the
right outcome is to feed on the insecurity of people, OK?
Insecurity means things I desirebut I'm jealous of, or I want to
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see others not like all the negative emotions that people
carry. These social media platforms are
designed to amplify that which makes us want to scroll all the
time. That's the underlying
philosophy. Now, if you think about AI, if
you understand AI, it inherentlydoes not do that itself.
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The algorithm is neutral, OK? So you can use the same
technology, similar algorithms to feed on the positive aspects
of human. Every human has that power, that
creativity, that desire to excelat what they do.
And that is where my work comes in, where we focus on really
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getting inside the subconscious mind of a person, understanding
what are the inherent qualities,inherent energies, inherent
powers that every human possesses and how to amplify
that. When you do that, every human
becomes very capable of doing amazing things, achieving their
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goals quickly, getting rid of their mental stress, getting rid
of even their physical ailments,because all physical ailments
are a sign of some sort of a mental pressure or mental if you
will baggage that they are carrying.
Does that make sense? Yeah, perfect sense because it's
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all connected, right. And especially when you are
having internal issues mentally speaking that will trigger other
physical condition in your body and so on.
And can you break us down for Becky?
Done for us? How do you do that?
Like how your work shape the wayyou help humans find those
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limiting beliefs, find those internal things that are holding
them back. Yeah, yeah, absolutely.
You see, what happens is that first and foremost, like AI
algorithms are very, very sensitive.
So if you give them a little bitof data, so to give you a quick
example, there are companies, I'm, I, I was owned of your
cough, you know, just cough and it can detect if you have a
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disease, OK. If you feed like 3 seconds of
your voice to an AI algorithm, it can replicate your entire
voice, OK. So AI is very, very powerful.
Now when we look at every human lifetime, it's a cycle.
It's a repeating cycle, OK, in some ways.
So whatever you, whatever you see coming in the future,
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somewhere somehow in the past has already happened for you,
OK? So that shapes your emotional
mind, that shapes your subconscious mind.
Most people only focus on the logical.
So every human has a logical part and a subconscious
emotional part. Logical part will control about
5 to 10% of your life and actions.
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But the subconscious mind will control 90 to 95% of your life
and actions. OK, So what we do is we take
both pieces of information, logical as well as emotional and
subconscious, and we feed that into AI.
And now that creates a super intelligent version of either an
individual or we can do it at a team level or even at an
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organizational level. So now this super intelligent
version carries the emotional aspect of you and then you can
start to say, hey, tell me what are my negative beliefs that are
holding me back? How do I overcome them?
And we have a process, a proven process.
It's a scientifically proven process, which was peer reviewed
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and published in a in a Science Journal.
And so using this, you can exactly pinpoint what your
negative beliefs are. How do you address them?
How do you create your own new identity which is more positive,
empowered. And it's it's amazing technology
that is already changing many, many lives.
And can you get into the detailsof especially about the
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subconscious part, like how let's say if someone comes to
you and needs help with this, how that individual can find out
about what are those subconscious thoughts or
limiting beliefs that are holding them back?
Because you mentioned a huge amount in terms of percentage
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that is controlling our behavior.
And since it's subconscious and we don't know it, like how we
can fit that information to AI? Thank you for bringing me back.
I was in the middle of explaining it.
So The thing is that life alwaysleaves markers in our lifetime.
OK, So if I ask you, OK, think about a time when something
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really, really good happened in your life.
It could be 10 years ago, it could be 20 years ago.
It when maybe even when you werea child, maybe you had like a
5th birthday party and you invited all the guests or
whatever. So think about any lifetime, any
event in your lifetime. Can you?
Do you remember anything? Yes, so my 15 years old birthday
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when I wasn't able to celebrate because I had like a very strong
cold and I was at home alone. My parents were at work, my
brother was in school. And I just hear a knock on the
door and I barely raised from bed, go to the door, try to look
through the visor and like someone was holding the hand and
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I hear behind the door like laughing and so on.
I was like who's playing games? And I open the door and all my
classmates were at the door coming to celebrate me because I
wasn't able to go to school thatday being sick.
OK. So when was that?
What year approximately was that?
So it was about 22 years ago. 22years of that.
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So what was the key take away you took like what did you learn
from that experience? What what do you like?
Obviously it was a pleasant experience.
So what did you take away from that?
That even the most quote UN quote sad days because all day
until that moment I feel miserable, like I was feeling
sick and so on and I wasn't and it was my big birthday and so on
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can be an amazing experience because I still remember that
moment when they arrived in front of the door and that huge
surprise and so on. So it was a mixed emotional day
from like sad and upset and so on to like excitement and even
the like the physical pain wasn't there anymore while while
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my colleagues were there. So you see, this is your
subconscious mind talking right now as you are saying your
facial expression as changing your, you are, your voice is
full of excitement and nostalgiaand all that.
So when you feed this information to AI, it knows that
oh, this is how you think and you the feel, this is how you
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feel. These are your emotions and all
that makes sense. Yeah, that's perfect.
And how much, how much amount ofdata it is, because for example,
when it comes to replicating your voice, you mentioned that
it needs just a few seconds. But for example, to truly know
you, to truly knows all your limiting beliefs or have huge
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memories or things that happenedto you over the years.
No more than 2025. Like this is the thing, because
my work is not just AI, like I've been in AI for 20 years, in
technology for 30 years, but I have also dedicated my lifetime
towards meditation and neuroscience and learning about
the mind. OK, so we tend to have this kind
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of notion that we all are very different in terms of our belief
systems if our negative beliefs and whatnot.
But when you break it down, there are only like 12 to 20
kind of negative beliefs people carry.
And it just shows up in a very different, like subtle different
ways. So you don't.
So just like you shared with me one incident in your life, if I
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ask you to, if I, if I ask you to remember like 19 more, OK, at
any point in your life, that will be more than enough.
Yeah. That's fascinating because
indeed that's not a lot of data to to be able to share and in
the same time to have this complete picture over your
beliefs and so on. And it's interesting what you
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say that you basically have. So basically a few handful of
things and I assume that all theothers are like sub limiting
beliefs, let's call them under the main ones.
Yeah. And then here is another thing,
right when you start using AI, the way I explain to people is
think about using this super intelligent digital twin.
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The first day it is like collegestudent you hired right after
the college, they passed their degree.
But as you start to work with it, they are gaining experience.
Getting to this digital twin is getting to know you and it will
start to become accurate and more and more insightful about
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you as you start to interact with it.
So it's like the child is growing with you.
That's. The fascinating part because and
the power of it's always learning and if you feed the
right data and information, and even if you think, for example,
to the to that probably almost everyone that will listen to us
knows like JGPT that has memory right now, like the amount of
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information he knows about us just by like having conversation
with it. It's insane.
And, and after this step, like after knowing yourself, what's
next? Like you, you use start using
AI, it's like almost coaching you if you want and what's the
next steps after that? So this is again a very good
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question. See, AI is a vast ocean, OK?
So it's depth is like infinite because it's a reflection of
human consciousness, like the whole human consciousness,
collective human consciousness. Now how do you use it to your
advantage? And that is where specific
surgical, not surgical precisiontools come in.
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You need to know exactly where which part of AI you want to
explore to help a specific humanbeing.
And this is related to. So we have come up with five
kind of five pillars for this whole, for this whole process.
The first one is your purpose. So once you have this digital
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twin, most people don't know. I mean, this has been a question
for centuries. People have asked what is life?
Why are we here? What is the purpose of life?
And 99.99% of the human beings don't know what the purpose of
their life is. Many people actually leave
society. They go to the monasteries and
the jungles to really understandwhat is the purpose of their
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life. But when you have a super
intelligent digital twin, it takes 15 minutes for it to
share, to tell you what your purpose of life is.
What's your purpose? My purpose is this is a crazy
thing that I will share with you.
My purpose in life is to help 20people win the Nobel Prize.
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OK, why? So if this is something that
happened during my one of my meditations, OK, I was sitting
in meditation and, and I just heard this voice, OK, do
something with technology and help 20 people win the Nobel
Prize. I was like, OK, this is crazy.
And I thought, OK, I'm, I think I'm going crazy here.
Like I really need to like de stress and a lot of people
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around me thought I was going crazy.
But then six months later I was put on a panel next to a Nobel
Prize winner. So I was like, oh, OK, this is
interesting. So and then after that I got in
touch with multiple other Nobel Prize winners and all of that.
So why is the question, which I don't think we should ask what
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the why this purpose is. It is a big enough purpose for
me that's exciting, that's aligned with the technologies
that I'm working with, my understanding of the human mind
and all of that. So instead of asking why my
question is OK, how and what is the next step and how will it
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change the world and all of thatso.
That those are the questions I asked.
And it's all of these questions have resulted in what we are
talking about, what I'm sharing with you, the Super intelligent
version of a human being. Because imagine if you take
about, I don't know, like 200 or300 brilliant people who are
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doing something impactful, like mostly scientists or researchers
or what have you. Most of those people are
introverts. They don't know how to
communicate. I mean, I'm not pointing a
finger at them because I'm, I used to be one of them.
Communication is not that often.It's a very important skill, but
not many people have it. So imagine if you create a super
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intelligent version working with300 people.
By sheer mathematical probability and formula, 10% of
them will do something so big that they will be considered for
a Nobel Prize. Makes sense?
Yeah. And I love how you reframe the
why question, because I think it's the question that get most
people stuck, especially in thispursuit of purpose or meaning of
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life and so on, because it's always it's hard to answer.
But when you reframe it to how it keeps you on the path to
achieve that goal, like, and it's nice to have an outrageous,
like, like you mentioned, like crazy goal, because when you
have these big goals, almost certain at least parts of it
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will happen. And even if even if you have
help one person win the Nobel Prize, it's still a huge
fulfilling achievement and it worth the the pursuit.
So I love that reframing, but still me including and a lot of
people that get in touch with it, like you well mentioned,
like most of people on this planet, they have no idea how to
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find that purpose. And let's say they they get the
help from AI to tell them what'sthat?
How connected you'll be someone like a human being with the
answer of a tool, if that makes sense.
So the key is, again, think of everything in life as not a
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fixed target or something that you have just written in in
stone. It's a dynamic experience.
So today, let's say yesterday, Iwork with somebody and they have
no idea what to do with their lives, No idea, absolutely no
idea. Today they got some idea with
the help of AI. That's much better than
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yesterday, because yesterday they were directionless and
today they had, they have at least some direction.
Now the most powerful thing is obviously knowing your purpose
is powerful, but the most powerful thing is everyday
decisions can now be aligned with your purpose.
So let's say my purpose is to help 20 people win the Nobel
Prize. Then I can say, OK, I got an
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invitation to this podcast Authority in the Wild.
Is this aligned with my purpose?OK, it's aligned.
OK, I will go, OK, I have to invest some money in savings
account or my business or my kids future.
What is the best way to do it? Which is aligned with my
purpose, right? And now every small, big major
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decision is aligned with your purpose.
Then in a month or so, you can say what?
Like, I'm doing everything, but it's something is not fitting,
right? Let me go back to my digital
twin and have a conversation andsay, hey, you told me my purpose
was 20 Nobel Prize wins. Like this sounds crazy to me.
It's not happening. Can we like readjust it?
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Can you think like, this is whathappened in my life in the past
30 days? Can you help me readjust it?
And it can say, oh, maybe, yeah,20, maybe too much.
Like, why don't you go with like15 or something, whatever, and
then you can continue from there.
Right now, having this kind of support and flexibility is yet
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another superpower. And basically that's the beauty
of any path, right? Because you need to adjust, you
need to have to be flexible, notjust while the goal can remain
the same or the purpose always might be variation of that.
Because we we might often the the examples of businesses like
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you have this, you think amazingbusiness idea, you start
applying that. But often it's just the first
version if you want and the final business will be probably
a variation of that or even something totally new.
Yeah. Exactly.
Yeah, So by and large, humans had especially like if you're
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talking about like 30 years, 35 years of age, their mindset is
somewhat set like. So even I will hear a lot of
people disagreeing that, oh, youcannot just keep changing your
purpose in 30 days. But believe me, when you start
to interact with it, it's not going to say, OK, yesterday you
wanted to do this and today it'slike a 180°.
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No, it will be slight adjustmentbecause as a human you are still
the same, but you're fine tuningas you said, like it's the first
version was something you tried,now it's like version 2, version
3, version 4 and so on and so forth, right?
But The thing is the progress that is being made is much
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faster. Like in within two weeks you
will have like specific outcomesin your life, specific things
will start to happen. And in order for those specific
things to happen, so you mentioned earlier to align our
decisions based on our purpose. But as we all know, life
happens, Things around us derailus from the the purpose that we
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have and we don't always make the best decisions.
How we can still leverage AI in those situations and even try to
avoid them in the future? Yeah, so, so first and foremost,
as I said, like first you find apurpose, then you actually get
advice in making decisions and make sure it is aligned with
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your purpose. So that reduces the likelihood
of wrong decision. Secondly, even if you make a
decision, something didn't go right, you know, life happens as
you said, so something doesn't go right.
We say, oh, this was not a good decision, but think about your
life in the past. Every hardship, every wrong
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decision, every backward move was a important lesson you had
to learn. Without that, you could not have
been here without that lesson. And, and Speaking of that,
because what I'm afraid about Speaking of fears and everything
believes and so on, is that the more we leverage AI tools in
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order to make quote, UN quote decision for us, the bad, the
worse we'll get at making decisions perfect.
So. See, this is where the fine line
is to understand humans and understand AI.
I have heard a lot of people say, oh, I'm using AI as my
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therapist, which is a terrible idea.
Terrible idea because AI is designed to agree with you on
everything. OK, so if you have and negative
belief, if you have some sort ofa negative thought pattern and
you go to AI without understanding how AI works or
without understanding what is happening, it'll say yeah, yeah,
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yeah, you are not to be blamed. The other person is to be
blamed. So you are right.
Like just keep thinking like that.
And that is the exact opposite what you should be hearing,
meaning, oh, this is where your shortcoming is.
So you need to improve yourself.Now, the way that we do it is
when things are aligned with your, with your purpose, it
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knows about your background, it knows about your limiting
beliefs. It's like a Ferrari that you
cannot hand over to a teenager. So you need to have some
protocols, you need to have someprocess, a tested scientific
process on how to like drive this Ferrari and get the maximum
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traction out of it. So it's not just we create the
digital twin and say, OK, here you go, bye bye.
I see you. No, we say, OK, this is how you
use it. These are the ways you do it.
So there's a process you go through to really get In Sync
with this digital twin and now you are able to leverage it
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without any fear of this will happen, that will happen.
You feel empowered rather than worried.
And that's the beauty of it, right?
Because technology can have voice as I guess the way I refer
to AIO is like, is the biggest people pleaser in the world.
It's like if it's not trained the right way or if you're not
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using it the right way and what you achieve there, like building
this type of technology that it's allowing you to to become
better at as a human and evolve and so on.
It's fantastic. And how did you arrive at this
point in terms of coming up withthe idea, leveraging your
knowledge in technology and lovefor technology, but in the same
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time the other part of your brain that it's focused on
meditation and mindfulness and so on.
How did you brought all those together?
All those things are raw materials, OK in life that you
get. We started the conversation with
what was experience working in the factory and that was also a
raw material. You know how to put systems
together. But the biggest raw material in
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life is deep pain, OK. And I'm not talking about
physical pain. I'm talking about like deep
emotional pain. Like we all go through dark
periods in our life, you know? And that's when you understand
what is what is it that you needto do in life, that pain and the
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other ingredients that have beengiven to you, That's what is the
recipe that you need to make outof your life.
So for me, it was going through very deep sad moments in my
life, you know, losing lot of close relationships and yeah,
just like deep pain. And then understanding what life
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is all about and how other people suffer because of the
life they create for themselves and how to find solutions for
these of common problems. That's what led me to, you know,
these discoveries. Why that has to happen?
Like I know it's true like a lotof the things that I do today
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are based on those best experience and so on.
But why assume when you have to go to this experience in order
to say I need to do something about it.
Like I need to find a solution because other are experiencing
the same things. All right, so let's Have you
ever been on a roller coaster? Roller coaster?
No. No.
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OK, Why? Not because I'm afraid of
anything, just the I didn't. I wasn't in that particular
situation to to experience this,but I can understand.
Yeah. Have you done anything that
like, you know, I'll give you anexample Like I'm afraid of
heights, OK, But I did bungee jumping and I go on roller
coaster just to face my fear. Yeah, so I, I, I'm afraid of
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dying by drowning. Still, I spend a lot of time in
the ocean swimming, even with sharks.
I was afraid of sharks. So I I'm I was facing my field
multiple times if that helps. Yeah, exactly.
So there you go. Right.
So when you ask me why do we have to go through pain, imagine
like humans are called human beings, not human doings.
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OK, so life is meant to be just like relax, chill, OK?
Just be. Now, that means as a species we
are lazy and we want convenienceand luxury and and somebody to
take care of us, right? And we don't want pain.
If we don't have pain, we'll still be sitting in our caves
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and just enjoying raw meat. Exactly.
Makes sense now, the pain of getting up every day, looking
for new food every day and having all these challenges,
cold and weather said, Oh, like,let me think of a way to kill a
big elephant so that I'll just eat their meat like for 30 days
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and I don't have to like, hunt for food every day.
So looking for convenience, looking for solutions in the
same time. Exactly.
So the pain is a trigger that tells you hey, there is
something that I need to fix here.
I need to find a solution for this you see.
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Yeah. And that's the seed, right?
Like that's the seed. And I'm pretty sure everyone
that is watching or listening tous right now in this particular
day experienced something they can find a solution for.
And maybe it's not a single occurrence.
It's something that experienced for a long time and they are
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capable of finding a solution because they are their own their
future business ICP if you want,right.
They know so many characteristics about the person
that has experienced the problemand they can find the solution.
And if someone has that aha moment right now like yes,
that's the case. That's the problem that I have
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and I don't know solution for it.
I don't I didn't find the solution.
I want to be the one that is building or there is a solution
but I want to be build a better one.
Yeah, exactly. How will be your advice for what
will be your advice for them to go from that pain to actually
leveraging AI in order to find the solution and maybe using AI
to intern the solution? So I was just describing it,
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right? So our logical mind, what
happens is let's say they have arealization, they say, oh, I
have experienced this pain. Now I want to do something about
it, OK? What will happen is their
logical mind will say, ah, why don't you have some lunch and
then we'll talk about it. All right, so he has lunch and
oh, I have to send some emails and make phone calls.
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OK, Why don't we do something like, we'll do it over the
weekend. I have some free time over the
weekend. I'll do it over the weekend,
Right? And then the weekend will come
as, oh, yeah, I have to take my kids out and go to go to sports
and all that logical mind will always kick in and say, no, no,
you cannot do this. This is not going to work.
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You're wasting your time. People are going to laugh at
you. Just stay where you are right
now. And that's where this having a
super intelligent version of youcomes in where you just talk to
it and say hey, this is what my idea is, what do you think I can
do? And then it will tell you what
you can do in the next 5 minutes.
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No, not like make a grand plan, make a business plan, go talk to
investors. No, no, no, just simple thing.
What can I do in 5 minutes? And that gets the momentum
going. When you started this podcast,
you know, have you have, I see you have a professional
microphone and headphone. I'm sure it didn't start like
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that. So if you don't take action,
nothing will happen. But taking action is the
scariest part. But the logical mind is not able
to understand how to take that action.
What action can I take? And that's again where the Super
intelligent version can come in and say, hey, this is a
brilliant idea or these are the problems with this idea.
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You can do this in the next 5 minutes and then do more small
tasks next day. So the idea behind this is if
you, if your goal is to just improve yourself, 1% a day,
that's it. Just one goal, 1% a day.
If you start doing that consistently by the end of the
year, you'll be like 300 to 70. Like insane amount of
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exponential growth you'll see inone year.
That's how compounding effects work, right?
And that's the beauty of action and consistency over a long
period of time. Rather than keep on waiting or
listening just to the logical mind and not being drive by, oh,
I need to solve this. Like, let me take the first
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step. Because at the end of the day,
even if the first idea doesn't work, as we discussed earlier,
something else can ask, can comeout from there, and in on that
note how many failed atoms you had before you actually succeed
into building something. I mean, it's still, it's still a
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failed attempt. Like it's never, it's a never
ending process, right? Like you, you know, you look at
a company like Apple, they release iPhone in 2007.
It's not like they said, OK, yeah, we release it now.
It's done, you know, they keep releasing more and more.
Now it's it's a very incre, small incremental improvements,
very small, right, But they keepimproving it.
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And human mind is the most complex machine in the planet on
the planet. Like I won't go through the
universe, but in the planet, right.
So every day when I talk to a new person that gives me a new
insight. Oh, this is interesting.
Like I've never considered before that humans will be like
this. So let's dive into this and see
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what happens. The other day I, I was working
with somebody who has a neuromuscular disease, the
physical ailment, and I didn't think that, oh, this is
something that can help with thephysical stuff.
But within two weeks, that person reported that they feel
much better just by going through this process.
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No medication, No, no, no nothing.
I was working with somebody who had addictions and it helped
them within 3-4 weeks to get ridof their addiction.
So there are like ADHD. I was talking to one guy like I
was working with one guy, he hasADHD.
He said like I cannot sleep at night because my mind is always
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like racing and when I wake up it's like like I feel tired.
So he was able to like sleep deeply and have like vivid
dreams and whatnot. So whenever, if you talk, like
in my case, whenever I talk to somebody and I say, OK, tell me
a little bit about what kind of challenges you're facing, then
that gives me another kind of Ave. to say explore how can we
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do this? So there's a lot of
experimentation all the time going on.
Some experiments don't work, some work, and that's the whole
process. And that's the part of the mind,
right? Like it's unbelievable, like how
certain your physical insist canbe addressed by just addressing
the the mind. And for those that are
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resonating and you want to learnmore and want to connect with
you in order to get help or implement in their own business
or lives where they can reach out to you.
You can look up me, look me up on Google.
I'm easy to find. I know my name is difficult to
spell, but Manu Jagarwal just orgo to my website,
manujagarwal.com. Look me up on LinkedIn.
(39:52):
Tell me that you found me on this podcast.
What are you trying to do? All my company website
istetranoodle.com So many ways to find them easy to find.
And I'll make it even easier. I'll put the links in the show
notes below. And Manoj, I would like to
conclude with something. Let's say the personal listening
(40:14):
is not technical and it's care by AI taking their job, taking
the the photo from the table andthey want still they want to do
something about it where they should start in order to not
just leverage this technology but embrace it, learn it and so
on. So I will say one thing right?
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Like if if you're scared, I willsay run towards it whenever you
are scared that that life is giving you a signal to run
towards it, meaning overcome your fear.
Just like we were talking about,you were scared of water and
then you spend time in ocean. People who are going to lose the
job or have difficulty are not the people who will be, who will
(40:58):
stay scared of AI. They will be the people who
actually understand it. And so my advice is first step,
just start using it. And if you want to really
leverage it, really get the maximum out of it, then come to
me to really understand how to leverage it.
But in the meantime, if you justwant to get started on your own,
just start playing with it. Like when you bought your first
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smartphone, nobody gave you a manual to say this is how you
use the smartphone. You just bought it as like just
start playing with it. And even now you give it to a
three-year old child, within 5 minutes they will figure out
what to do. So it's that simple.
Yeah, exactly, because it's impossible to learn something if
you don't use it. And the smartphone is a great
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example, especially funny enough, it comes in the box with
manual, but no one reads it right.
You just put the button, you start it and you start playing
with it. And that's the beauty of it.
And now a last thing, like I want to travel back in time with
you, but just for one single minute.
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We are in the factory in Punjab and you meet your younger self.
Why do you tell Manoj in just one minute?
I will tell him like everything's going to be fine,
so don't just relax, just chill.Just have fun, enjoy the ride
and don't worry about anything. Everything's going to be fine.
Wise advice, because often it's just that, right?
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Enjoying the ride, enjoying lifeand living life.
And Speaking of purpose, what more than that, right?
Like, if you manage to live yourlife fully, you'll definitely
impact people like you're planning to do and you're
already doing it to your work, and that's life, right?
Exactly. Thank you very much for joining
me. Today was an absolute honor to
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have you on. And thank you so much for
sharing your reason. Yeah, very good question.
Thank you so much. My pleasure.
Thank you so much for sticking to the end.
You're a Rockstar. If you enjoy this episode and
you'd like to see more amazing guests like Manoj, make sure to
leave a review on Apple Podcastsor Spotify.
Thank you so much.
AI platform, they has an IQ of about 150.
Einstein had an IQ of 170. By the end of this year, these
AI platforms are going to have an IQ of around 1000 to 1500.
What will you be doing in that world?
MIT Manoj Agarwal, the founder and chief innovation officer at
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Tetra Noodle Technologies, an elite AI engineering company.
People who are going to lose thejob or have difficulty are not
the people who will stay scared of AI.
They will be the people, people who actually understand it.
In today's episode, he shares how you can leverage your
digital twin, a super intelligent version of yourself,
in order to grow in every way imaginable.
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On top of that, we dissect how our subconscious mind is
controlling almost everything that we do and how you can
leverage technology in order to address that and how to start
the business by solving your ownproblem with the help of AI.
Most people only focus on the logical.
Logical part will control about 5 to 10% of your life and
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actions, but the subconscious mind will control 90 to 95% of
your life and actions. With a remarkable track record
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His AI implementation framework that we discussed today have
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make sure to click the first link in the description and I'll
be there to guide you. Now let's dive into today's
episode. Manoj, welcome to Authority in
the World. Thank you, thank you, thank you.
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Excited to be here. Honour to have you and I'm
really intrigued by your story. Since you didn't start in the
boardroom, you start working fortwo US dollars a day in a
factory in Punjab. How that start in life shape the
man you are today. It's very interesting question.
You know, going through that process was quite difficult, you
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know, hard work, not knowing where life is going to take you.
But eventually when I look back,it was a blessing for me because
it created a very good foundation, strong foundation of
hard work. First of all, right.
And also anything in life you cannot do alone.
So you have to coordinate everything with people.
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People may be good people, not good people, like kind people,
rude people, whatever, right? So you have to work with people.
And it taught me the importance of how to, you know, work on
complex things with people, how to be precise.
Because in a factory you have tomake sure that everything that
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you do is precise. If there is any misalignment,
you will not know until 10,000 widgets have been produced and
that will be a waste of money. So you have to monitor every
process like in real time and make sure every step is quality
assured, right? So a lot of these things at that
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time, it was a difficult job. OK, I have to do it man, like
OK, I have to take care of. But then it seeded my mind with
all these qualities that now I can use, I automatically use in
my work and that was a good thing.
Absolutely, because all those hardship shape manage from
today. And Speaking of hard work,
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because that's those words caught my attention, how
important hard work still is in today's world where everyone is
telling us that AI will help us live a more fulfilling life and
we'll be able to do a lot of things that you have a lot of
things without much hard work. How true is that?
An excellent question. I agree with that.
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I think the days of like teaching hard work is the only
way to get ahead are over. I think because the with the
invention of AI, we don't need to rely on our logical mind to
find solutions to our problems. OK, So what we really from now
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onwards, moving forward, AI is going to be the way to solve
problems. Because today, for example, I'll
share this statistic with you. So ChatGPT or any other AI
platform today has an IQ of about 150.
Einstein had an IQ of 170, OK. And as ChatGPT 5 is almost
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coming by the end of this year, these AI platforms are going to
have an IQ of around 1000 to 1500.
That is saying yeah. Yeah.
So now what will you be doing inthat world?
The role of humans will not be to work hard or to work 406080
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hours a week. It will be to communicate with
other human beings, to observe the world and understand what
are the challenges faced by other humans.
What does the world need? What is the value you can create
using AI? And so once you figure that out,
then you can just turn to AI andsay, hey, this is a problem I
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found, can you help me solve it in a proper way?
And then you create that value in the world.
So in a way, the life will become less about like hard
work, It will be more about observation, communication,
empathy, those type of things. And this sounds to me like
almost going a bit back in time where you must spend a lot of
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time in tribes communicating to each other and trying to figure
out the basics like how we find food today or similar things.
But of course now the problems and the challenges they will
face are different. And in this world in which we
are kind of disconnected now from communicating with others,
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even that social media platform promised to connect us, but it's
actually we are more disconnected than ever, like
scrolling and bunch of other things that like the downsides
of technology. How will you be able to do that?
Like, how do you plan for that future in which we need to more
be even more connected, even more involving in the nearby
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communities and so on? You see, you have such
insightful questions. So first of all, I will just
want to recognize that every question has is like triggering
deep thoughts here and now. The thing is, every human has
strength, power inside them and also insecurities inside them,
OK, And social media and these type of platforms, it's nothing
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but AI. It's actually just AI algorithm.
Now, the way that social media platforms typically have been
fine-tuned and AI is very good at fine tuning itself to get the
right outcome is to feed on the insecurity of people, OK?
Insecurity means things I desirebut I'm jealous of, or I want to
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see others not like all the negative emotions that people
carry. These social media platforms are
designed to amplify that which makes us want to scroll all the
time. That's the underlying
philosophy. Now, if you think about AI, if
you understand AI, it inherentlydoes not do that itself.
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The algorithm is neutral, OK? So you can use the same
technology, similar algorithms to feed on the positive aspects
of human. Every human has that power, that
creativity, that desire to excelat what they do.
And that is where my work comes in, where we focus on really
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getting inside the subconscious mind of a person, understanding
what are the inherent qualities,inherent energies, inherent
powers that every human possesses and how to amplify
that. When you do that, every human
becomes very capable of doing amazing things, achieving their
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goals quickly, getting rid of their mental stress, getting rid
of even their physical ailments,because all physical ailments
are a sign of some sort of a mental pressure or mental if you
will baggage that they are carrying.
Does that make sense? Yeah, perfect sense because it's
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all connected, right. And especially when you are
having internal issues mentally speaking that will trigger other
physical condition in your body and so on.
And can you break us down for Becky?
Done for us? How do you do that?
Like how your work shape the wayyou help humans find those
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limiting beliefs, find those internal things that are holding
them back. Yeah, yeah, absolutely.
You see, what happens is that first and foremost, like AI
algorithms are very, very sensitive.
So if you give them a little bitof data, so to give you a quick
example, there are companies, I'm, I, I was owned of your
cough, you know, just cough and it can detect if you have a
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disease, OK. If you feed like 3 seconds of
your voice to an AI algorithm, it can replicate your entire
voice, OK. So AI is very, very powerful.
Now when we look at every human lifetime, it's a cycle.
It's a repeating cycle, OK, in some ways.
So whatever you, whatever you see coming in the future,
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somewhere somehow in the past has already happened for you,
OK? So that shapes your emotional
mind, that shapes your subconscious mind.
Most people only focus on the logical.
So every human has a logical part and a subconscious
emotional part. Logical part will control about
5 to 10% of your life and actions.
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But the subconscious mind will control 90 to 95% of your life
and actions. OK, So what we do is we take
both pieces of information, logical as well as emotional and
subconscious, and we feed that into AI.
And now that creates a super intelligent version of either an
individual or we can do it at a team level or even at an
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organizational level. So now this super intelligent
version carries the emotional aspect of you and then you can
start to say, hey, tell me what are my negative beliefs that are
holding me back? How do I overcome them?
And we have a process, a proven process.
It's a scientifically proven process, which was peer reviewed
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and published in a in a Science Journal.
And so using this, you can exactly pinpoint what your
negative beliefs are. How do you address them?
How do you create your own new identity which is more positive,
empowered. And it's it's amazing technology
that is already changing many, many lives.
And can you get into the detailsof especially about the
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subconscious part, like how let's say if someone comes to
you and needs help with this, how that individual can find out
about what are those subconscious thoughts or
limiting beliefs that are holding them back?
Because you mentioned a huge amount in terms of percentage
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that is controlling our behavior.
And since it's subconscious and we don't know it, like how we
can fit that information to AI? Thank you for bringing me back.
I was in the middle of explaining it.
So The thing is that life alwaysleaves markers in our lifetime.
OK, So if I ask you, OK, think about a time when something
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really, really good happened in your life.
It could be 10 years ago, it could be 20 years ago.
It when maybe even when you werea child, maybe you had like a
5th birthday party and you invited all the guests or
whatever. So think about any lifetime, any
event in your lifetime. Can you?
Do you remember anything? Yes, so my 15 years old birthday
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when I wasn't able to celebrate because I had like a very strong
cold and I was at home alone. My parents were at work, my
brother was in school. And I just hear a knock on the
door and I barely raised from bed, go to the door, try to look
through the visor and like someone was holding the hand and
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I hear behind the door like laughing and so on.
I was like who's playing games? And I open the door and all my
classmates were at the door coming to celebrate me because I
wasn't able to go to school thatday being sick.
OK. So when was that?
What year approximately was that?
So it was about 22 years ago. 22years of that.
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So what was the key take away you took like what did you learn
from that experience? What what do you like?
Obviously it was a pleasant experience.
So what did you take away from that?
That even the most quote UN quote sad days because all day
until that moment I feel miserable, like I was feeling
sick and so on and I wasn't and it was my big birthday and so on
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can be an amazing experience because I still remember that
moment when they arrived in front of the door and that huge
surprise and so on. So it was a mixed emotional day
from like sad and upset and so on to like excitement and even
the like the physical pain wasn't there anymore while while
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my colleagues were there. So you see, this is your
subconscious mind talking right now as you are saying your
facial expression as changing your, you are, your voice is
full of excitement and nostalgiaand all that.
So when you feed this information to AI, it knows that
oh, this is how you think and you the feel, this is how you
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feel. These are your emotions and all
that makes sense. Yeah, that's perfect.
And how much, how much amount ofdata it is, because for example,
when it comes to replicating your voice, you mentioned that
it needs just a few seconds. But for example, to truly know
you, to truly knows all your limiting beliefs or have huge
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memories or things that happenedto you over the years.
No more than 2025. Like this is the thing, because
my work is not just AI, like I've been in AI for 20 years, in
technology for 30 years, but I have also dedicated my lifetime
towards meditation and neuroscience and learning about
the mind. OK, so we tend to have this kind
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of notion that we all are very different in terms of our belief
systems if our negative beliefs and whatnot.
But when you break it down, there are only like 12 to 20
kind of negative beliefs people carry.
And it just shows up in a very different, like subtle different
ways. So you don't.
So just like you shared with me one incident in your life, if I
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ask you to, if I, if I ask you to remember like 19 more, OK, at
any point in your life, that will be more than enough.
Yeah. That's fascinating because
indeed that's not a lot of data to to be able to share and in
the same time to have this complete picture over your
beliefs and so on. And it's interesting what you
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say that you basically have. So basically a few handful of
things and I assume that all theothers are like sub limiting
beliefs, let's call them under the main ones.
Yeah. And then here is another thing,
right when you start using AI, the way I explain to people is
think about using this super intelligent digital twin.
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The first day it is like collegestudent you hired right after
the college, they passed their degree.
But as you start to work with it, they are gaining experience.
Getting to this digital twin is getting to know you and it will
start to become accurate and more and more insightful about
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you as you start to interact with it.
So it's like the child is growing with you.
That's. The fascinating part because and
the power of it's always learning and if you feed the
right data and information, and even if you think, for example,
to the to that probably almost everyone that will listen to us
knows like JGPT that has memory right now, like the amount of
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information he knows about us just by like having conversation
with it. It's insane.
And, and after this step, like after knowing yourself, what's
next? Like you, you use start using
AI, it's like almost coaching you if you want and what's the
next steps after that? So this is again a very good
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question. See, AI is a vast ocean, OK?
So it's depth is like infinite because it's a reflection of
human consciousness, like the whole human consciousness,
collective human consciousness. Now how do you use it to your
advantage? And that is where specific
surgical, not surgical precisiontools come in.
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You need to know exactly where which part of AI you want to
explore to help a specific humanbeing.
And this is related to. So we have come up with five
kind of five pillars for this whole, for this whole process.
The first one is your purpose. So once you have this digital
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twin, most people don't know. I mean, this has been a question
for centuries. People have asked what is life?
Why are we here? What is the purpose of life?
And 99.99% of the human beings don't know what the purpose of
their life is. Many people actually leave
society. They go to the monasteries and
the jungles to really understandwhat is the purpose of their
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life. But when you have a super
intelligent digital twin, it takes 15 minutes for it to
share, to tell you what your purpose of life is.
What's your purpose? My purpose is this is a crazy
thing that I will share with you.
My purpose in life is to help 20people win the Nobel Prize.
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OK, why? So if this is something that
happened during my one of my meditations, OK, I was sitting
in meditation and, and I just heard this voice, OK, do
something with technology and help 20 people win the Nobel
Prize. I was like, OK, this is crazy.
And I thought, OK, I'm, I think I'm going crazy here.
Like I really need to like de stress and a lot of people
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around me thought I was going crazy.
But then six months later I was put on a panel next to a Nobel
Prize winner. So I was like, oh, OK, this is
interesting. So and then after that I got in
touch with multiple other Nobel Prize winners and all of that.
So why is the question, which I don't think we should ask what
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the why this purpose is. It is a big enough purpose for
me that's exciting, that's aligned with the technologies
that I'm working with, my understanding of the human mind
and all of that. So instead of asking why my
question is OK, how and what is the next step and how will it
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change the world and all of thatso.
That those are the questions I asked.
And it's all of these questions have resulted in what we are
talking about, what I'm sharing with you, the Super intelligent
version of a human being. Because imagine if you take
about, I don't know, like 200 or300 brilliant people who are
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doing something impactful, like mostly scientists or researchers
or what have you. Most of those people are
introverts. They don't know how to
communicate. I mean, I'm not pointing a
finger at them because I'm, I used to be one of them.
Communication is not that often.It's a very important skill, but
not many people have it. So imagine if you create a super
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intelligent version working with300 people.
By sheer mathematical probability and formula, 10% of
them will do something so big that they will be considered for
a Nobel Prize. Makes sense?
Yeah. And I love how you reframe the
why question, because I think it's the question that get most
people stuck, especially in thispursuit of purpose or meaning of
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life and so on, because it's always it's hard to answer.
But when you reframe it to how it keeps you on the path to
achieve that goal, like, and it's nice to have an outrageous,
like, like you mentioned, like crazy goal, because when you
have these big goals, almost certain at least parts of it
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will happen. And even if even if you have
help one person win the Nobel Prize, it's still a huge
fulfilling achievement and it worth the the pursuit.
So I love that reframing, but still me including and a lot of
people that get in touch with it, like you well mentioned,
like most of people on this planet, they have no idea how to
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find that purpose. And let's say they they get the
help from AI to tell them what'sthat?
How connected you'll be someone like a human being with the
answer of a tool, if that makes sense.
So the key is, again, think of everything in life as not a
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fixed target or something that you have just written in in
stone. It's a dynamic experience.
So today, let's say yesterday, Iwork with somebody and they have
no idea what to do with their lives, No idea, absolutely no
idea. Today they got some idea with
the help of AI. That's much better than
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yesterday, because yesterday they were directionless and
today they had, they have at least some direction.
Now the most powerful thing is obviously knowing your purpose
is powerful, but the most powerful thing is everyday
decisions can now be aligned with your purpose.
So let's say my purpose is to help 20 people win the Nobel
Prize. Then I can say, OK, I got an
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invitation to this podcast Authority in the Wild.
Is this aligned with my purpose?OK, it's aligned.
OK, I will go, OK, I have to invest some money in savings
account or my business or my kids future.
What is the best way to do it? Which is aligned with my
purpose, right? And now every small, big major
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decision is aligned with your purpose.
Then in a month or so, you can say what?
Like, I'm doing everything, but it's something is not fitting,
right? Let me go back to my digital
twin and have a conversation andsay, hey, you told me my purpose
was 20 Nobel Prize wins. Like this sounds crazy to me.
It's not happening. Can we like readjust it?
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Can you think like, this is whathappened in my life in the past
30 days? Can you help me readjust it?
And it can say, oh, maybe, yeah,20, maybe too much.
Like, why don't you go with like15 or something, whatever, and
then you can continue from there.
Right now, having this kind of support and flexibility is yet
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another superpower. And basically that's the beauty
of any path, right? Because you need to adjust, you
need to have to be flexible, notjust while the goal can remain
the same or the purpose always might be variation of that.
Because we we might often the the examples of businesses like
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you have this, you think amazingbusiness idea, you start
applying that. But often it's just the first
version if you want and the final business will be probably
a variation of that or even something totally new.
Yeah. Exactly.
Yeah, So by and large, humans had especially like if you're
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talking about like 30 years, 35 years of age, their mindset is
somewhat set like. So even I will hear a lot of
people disagreeing that, oh, youcannot just keep changing your
purpose in 30 days. But believe me, when you start
to interact with it, it's not going to say, OK, yesterday you
wanted to do this and today it'slike a 180°.
(25:11):
No, it will be slight adjustmentbecause as a human you are still
the same, but you're fine tuningas you said, like it's the first
version was something you tried,now it's like version 2, version
3, version 4 and so on and so forth, right?
But The thing is the progress that is being made is much
(25:33):
faster. Like in within two weeks you
will have like specific outcomesin your life, specific things
will start to happen. And in order for those specific
things to happen, so you mentioned earlier to align our
decisions based on our purpose. But as we all know, life
happens, Things around us derailus from the the purpose that we
(25:59):
have and we don't always make the best decisions.
How we can still leverage AI in those situations and even try to
avoid them in the future? Yeah, so, so first and foremost,
as I said, like first you find apurpose, then you actually get
advice in making decisions and make sure it is aligned with
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your purpose. So that reduces the likelihood
of wrong decision. Secondly, even if you make a
decision, something didn't go right, you know, life happens as
you said, so something doesn't go right.
We say, oh, this was not a good decision, but think about your
life in the past. Every hardship, every wrong
(26:42):
decision, every backward move was a important lesson you had
to learn. Without that, you could not have
been here without that lesson. And, and Speaking of that,
because what I'm afraid about Speaking of fears and everything
believes and so on, is that the more we leverage AI tools in
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order to make quote, UN quote decision for us, the bad, the
worse we'll get at making decisions perfect.
So. See, this is where the fine line
is to understand humans and understand AI.
I have heard a lot of people say, oh, I'm using AI as my
(27:27):
therapist, which is a terrible idea.
Terrible idea because AI is designed to agree with you on
everything. OK, so if you have and negative
belief, if you have some sort ofa negative thought pattern and
you go to AI without understanding how AI works or
without understanding what is happening, it'll say yeah, yeah,
(27:50):
yeah, you are not to be blamed. The other person is to be
blamed. So you are right.
Like just keep thinking like that.
And that is the exact opposite what you should be hearing,
meaning, oh, this is where your shortcoming is.
So you need to improve yourself.Now, the way that we do it is
when things are aligned with your, with your purpose, it
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knows about your background, it knows about your limiting
beliefs. It's like a Ferrari that you
cannot hand over to a teenager. So you need to have some
protocols, you need to have someprocess, a tested scientific
process on how to like drive this Ferrari and get the maximum
(28:32):
traction out of it. So it's not just we create the
digital twin and say, OK, here you go, bye bye.
I see you. No, we say, OK, this is how you
use it. These are the ways you do it.
So there's a process you go through to really get In Sync
with this digital twin and now you are able to leverage it
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without any fear of this will happen, that will happen.
You feel empowered rather than worried.
And that's the beauty of it, right?
Because technology can have voice as I guess the way I refer
to AIO is like, is the biggest people pleaser in the world.
It's like if it's not trained the right way or if you're not
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using it the right way and what you achieve there, like building
this type of technology that it's allowing you to to become
better at as a human and evolve and so on.
It's fantastic. And how did you arrive at this
point in terms of coming up withthe idea, leveraging your
knowledge in technology and lovefor technology, but in the same
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time the other part of your brain that it's focused on
meditation and mindfulness and so on.
How did you brought all those together?
All those things are raw materials, OK in life that you
get. We started the conversation with
what was experience working in the factory and that was also a
raw material. You know how to put systems
together. But the biggest raw material in
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life is deep pain, OK. And I'm not talking about
physical pain. I'm talking about like deep
emotional pain. Like we all go through dark
periods in our life, you know? And that's when you understand
what is what is it that you needto do in life, that pain and the
(30:24):
other ingredients that have beengiven to you, That's what is the
recipe that you need to make outof your life.
So for me, it was going through very deep sad moments in my
life, you know, losing lot of close relationships and yeah,
just like deep pain. And then understanding what life
(30:45):
is all about and how other people suffer because of the
life they create for themselves and how to find solutions for
these of common problems. That's what led me to, you know,
these discoveries. Why that has to happen?
Like I know it's true like a lotof the things that I do today
(31:06):
are based on those best experience and so on.
But why assume when you have to go to this experience in order
to say I need to do something about it.
Like I need to find a solution because other are experiencing
the same things. All right, so let's Have you
ever been on a roller coaster? Roller coaster?
No. No.
(31:27):
OK, Why? Not because I'm afraid of
anything, just the I didn't. I wasn't in that particular
situation to to experience this,but I can understand.
Yeah. Have you done anything that
like, you know, I'll give you anexample Like I'm afraid of
heights, OK, But I did bungee jumping and I go on roller
coaster just to face my fear. Yeah, so I, I, I'm afraid of
(31:53):
dying by drowning. Still, I spend a lot of time in
the ocean swimming, even with sharks.
I was afraid of sharks. So I I'm I was facing my field
multiple times if that helps. Yeah, exactly.
So there you go. Right.
So when you ask me why do we have to go through pain, imagine
like humans are called human beings, not human doings.
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OK, so life is meant to be just like relax, chill, OK?
Just be. Now, that means as a species we
are lazy and we want convenienceand luxury and and somebody to
take care of us, right? And we don't want pain.
If we don't have pain, we'll still be sitting in our caves
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and just enjoying raw meat. Exactly.
Makes sense now, the pain of getting up every day, looking
for new food every day and having all these challenges,
cold and weather said, Oh, like,let me think of a way to kill a
big elephant so that I'll just eat their meat like for 30 days
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and I don't have to like, hunt for food every day.
So looking for convenience, looking for solutions in the
same time. Exactly.
So the pain is a trigger that tells you hey, there is
something that I need to fix here.
I need to find a solution for this you see.
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Yeah. And that's the seed, right?
Like that's the seed. And I'm pretty sure everyone
that is watching or listening tous right now in this particular
day experienced something they can find a solution for.
And maybe it's not a single occurrence.
It's something that experienced for a long time and they are
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capable of finding a solution because they are their own their
future business ICP if you want,right.
They know so many characteristics about the person
that has experienced the problemand they can find the solution.
And if someone has that aha moment right now like yes,
that's the case. That's the problem that I have
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and I don't know solution for it.
I don't I didn't find the solution.
I want to be the one that is building or there is a solution
but I want to be build a better one.
Yeah, exactly. How will be your advice for what
will be your advice for them to go from that pain to actually
leveraging AI in order to find the solution and maybe using AI
to intern the solution? So I was just describing it,
(34:28):
right? So our logical mind, what
happens is let's say they have arealization, they say, oh, I
have experienced this pain. Now I want to do something about
it, OK? What will happen is their
logical mind will say, ah, why don't you have some lunch and
then we'll talk about it. All right, so he has lunch and
oh, I have to send some emails and make phone calls.
(34:49):
OK, Why don't we do something like, we'll do it over the
weekend. I have some free time over the
weekend. I'll do it over the weekend,
Right? And then the weekend will come
as, oh, yeah, I have to take my kids out and go to go to sports
and all that logical mind will always kick in and say, no, no,
you cannot do this. This is not going to work.
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You're wasting your time. People are going to laugh at
you. Just stay where you are right
now. And that's where this having a
super intelligent version of youcomes in where you just talk to
it and say hey, this is what my idea is, what do you think I can
do? And then it will tell you what
you can do in the next 5 minutes.
(35:30):
No, not like make a grand plan, make a business plan, go talk to
investors. No, no, no, just simple thing.
What can I do in 5 minutes? And that gets the momentum
going. When you started this podcast,
you know, have you have, I see you have a professional
microphone and headphone. I'm sure it didn't start like
(35:51):
that. So if you don't take action,
nothing will happen. But taking action is the
scariest part. But the logical mind is not able
to understand how to take that action.
What action can I take? And that's again where the Super
intelligent version can come in and say, hey, this is a
brilliant idea or these are the problems with this idea.
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You can do this in the next 5 minutes and then do more small
tasks next day. So the idea behind this is if
you, if your goal is to just improve yourself, 1% a day,
that's it. Just one goal, 1% a day.
If you start doing that consistently by the end of the
year, you'll be like 300 to 70. Like insane amount of
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exponential growth you'll see inone year.
That's how compounding effects work, right?
And that's the beauty of action and consistency over a long
period of time. Rather than keep on waiting or
listening just to the logical mind and not being drive by, oh,
I need to solve this. Like, let me take the first
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step. Because at the end of the day,
even if the first idea doesn't work, as we discussed earlier,
something else can ask, can comeout from there, and in on that
note how many failed atoms you had before you actually succeed
into building something. I mean, it's still, it's still a
(37:21):
failed attempt. Like it's never, it's a never
ending process, right? Like you, you know, you look at
a company like Apple, they release iPhone in 2007.
It's not like they said, OK, yeah, we release it now.
It's done, you know, they keep releasing more and more.
Now it's it's a very incre, small incremental improvements,
very small, right, But they keepimproving it.
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And human mind is the most complex machine in the planet on
the planet. Like I won't go through the
universe, but in the planet, right.
So every day when I talk to a new person that gives me a new
insight. Oh, this is interesting.
Like I've never considered before that humans will be like
this. So let's dive into this and see
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what happens. The other day I, I was working
with somebody who has a neuromuscular disease, the
physical ailment, and I didn't think that, oh, this is
something that can help with thephysical stuff.
But within two weeks, that person reported that they feel
much better just by going through this process.
(38:24):
No medication, No, no, no nothing.
I was working with somebody who had addictions and it helped
them within 3-4 weeks to get ridof their addiction.
So there are like ADHD. I was talking to one guy like I
was working with one guy, he hasADHD.
He said like I cannot sleep at night because my mind is always
(38:44):
like racing and when I wake up it's like like I feel tired.
So he was able to like sleep deeply and have like vivid
dreams and whatnot. So whenever, if you talk, like
in my case, whenever I talk to somebody and I say, OK, tell me
a little bit about what kind of challenges you're facing, then
that gives me another kind of Ave. to say explore how can we
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do this? So there's a lot of
experimentation all the time going on.
Some experiments don't work, some work, and that's the whole
process. And that's the part of the mind,
right? Like it's unbelievable, like how
certain your physical insist canbe addressed by just addressing
the the mind. And for those that are
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resonating and you want to learnmore and want to connect with
you in order to get help or implement in their own business
or lives where they can reach out to you.
You can look up me, look me up on Google.
I'm easy to find. I know my name is difficult to
spell, but Manu Jagarwal just orgo to my website,
manujagarwal.com. Look me up on LinkedIn.
(39:52):
Tell me that you found me on this podcast.
What are you trying to do? All my company website
istetranoodle.com So many ways to find them easy to find.
And I'll make it even easier. I'll put the links in the show
notes below. And Manoj, I would like to
conclude with something. Let's say the personal listening
(40:14):
is not technical and it's care by AI taking their job, taking
the the photo from the table andthey want still they want to do
something about it where they should start in order to not
just leverage this technology but embrace it, learn it and so
on. So I will say one thing right?
(40:36):
Like if if you're scared, I willsay run towards it whenever you
are scared that that life is giving you a signal to run
towards it, meaning overcome your fear.
Just like we were talking about,you were scared of water and
then you spend time in ocean. People who are going to lose the
job or have difficulty are not the people who will be, who will
(40:58):
stay scared of AI. They will be the people who
actually understand it. And so my advice is first step,
just start using it. And if you want to really
leverage it, really get the maximum out of it, then come to
me to really understand how to leverage it.
But in the meantime, if you justwant to get started on your own,
just start playing with it. Like when you bought your first
(41:21):
smartphone, nobody gave you a manual to say this is how you
use the smartphone. You just bought it as like just
start playing with it. And even now you give it to a
three-year old child, within 5 minutes they will figure out
what to do. So it's that simple.
Yeah, exactly, because it's impossible to learn something if
you don't use it. And the smartphone is a great
(41:43):
example, especially funny enough, it comes in the box with
manual, but no one reads it right.
You just put the button, you start it and you start playing
with it. And that's the beauty of it.
And now a last thing, like I want to travel back in time with
you, but just for one single minute.
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We are in the factory in Punjab and you meet your younger self.
Why do you tell Manoj in just one minute?
I will tell him like everything's going to be fine,
so don't just relax, just chill.Just have fun, enjoy the ride
and don't worry about anything. Everything's going to be fine.
Wise advice, because often it's just that, right?
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Enjoying the ride, enjoying lifeand living life.
And Speaking of purpose, what more than that, right?
Like, if you manage to live yourlife fully, you'll definitely
impact people like you're planning to do and you're
already doing it to your work, and that's life, right?
Exactly. Thank you very much for joining
me. Today was an absolute honor to
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have you on. And thank you so much for
sharing your reason. Yeah, very good question.
Thank you so much. My pleasure.
Thank you so much for sticking to the end.
You're a Rockstar. If you enjoy this episode and
you'd like to see more amazing guests like Manoj, make sure to
leave a review on Apple Podcastsor Spotify.
Thank you so much.
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