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Whoever said you can't show up at a street
race with a truck?
You really don't know how fast a truck can
really get, and we all know that
Lamborghini built a truck before one of the
fastest accelerating trucks out there.
But that's not what we're here to talk
about today, oh God, no.
We're here because one of the top truck
manufacturers in the entire world decided
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to shake up the world, just like they did
with the Buick GNX in the 1980s.
General Motors decided to put the world on
its feet when they released both the
Syclone and Typhoon onto the world stage.
Yes, the GMC Syclone and Typhoon A
performance truck that could beat a Ferrari
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in a drag race and still be able to carry
an entire keg Hell, a multitude of kegs to
the party.
For all those people out there who think
having this amazing Ferrari is the God's
gift to automobiles has never sat behind
the wheel of a 1991 GMC Syclone and hit the
gas.
One of the most powerful midsize trucks of
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all time.
We're here to talk about one of the
greatest products ever to come out of GM's
stable, the Syclone Typhoon Twins, and how
they changed the aftermarket world.
Welcome back to the AutoLooks podcast.
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So, like I said in the beginning, the GMC
Syclone and Typhoon twins some of the
coolest trucks you would ever see Like
literally built off a GMC Sonoma.
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This was literally what showcased 2-box
design in its best format.
It essentially was what every child drew as
a pickup truck.
When you see the original Sonoma's as
standard base model pickup trucks, that's
what you think the most boring, bland
things the world has ever seen, like how
the Dakota had a couple sharper edges and
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even the Ranger had more curves on it.
This is not what it did.
Well, after impressing tons of people with
their turbocharged GNX in the 1980s, a
group of individuals coming over from
Project Black Midnight decided to work on
something even better.
GMC wanted to set the world on fire and
prove that you didn't need to buy an
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Italian sports car to go fast, especially
in truck-hungry America.
Americans know that they could build some
of the most powerful vehicles in the world
and they know they could build performance.
Hell.
California is essentially where aftermarket
industry started.
It was born and bred on the mean streets of
Detroit and Los Angeles.
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Big burly V8s from the muscle car days.
Those days were behind us, you got to
remember.
We just went through a gas crisis in the
70s, an economic fallout in the 1980s, and
now, with the introduction of computer
systems, things were changing and with that,
GMC needed to change and it needed to prove
to the world that their pickup trucks were
more than just this horrible, bland two-box
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design.
For God's sakes.
They had the Camaro and the Corvette.
They gave us some amazing products Produced
by Production Automotive Services, or PAS,
the same company who credited with making
the 1989 Pontiac Turbo.
Trans Am decided to take upon themselves a
project in Troy, Michigan, to build the
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fastest production truck in the world.
They were going to take the most boring
granny-style pickup truck and turn it into
something that could literally stare down a
Ferrari GTO and win.
Oh yeah, its aerodynamic package was some
of the worst out there, but this damn thing
was going to be fast.
And in 1991, the project finally showcased
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to the world gave us just that the fastest
midsize pickup truck the world had ever
seen At that point in time.
The fastest pickup truck the world had ever
seen at that point in time.
The fastest pickup truck the world had ever
seen, with an all-wheel drive high
performance system.
This little mid-sized pickup truck was able
to stick to the road like glue and keep you
moving.
And it's funny because it only came from a
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4.3 liter turbo V6 engine that pumped out
280 horsepower.
In today's day and age, the Corvette is now
pushing over a thousand horsepower.
And this little truck, 280 from a V6.
It did zero to 60 in 5.3 seconds and a
quarter mile in 13.4 seconds at 98 miles
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per hour.
Oh yeah, it was going good.
And just how good was it?
Well, it was governed or limited to top out
at 124 miles per hour.
Take that limiter off and people can have
gone even faster.
But 124 miles per hour in a pickup truck
was unheard of even in 1991.
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You have to remember, at that point in time
there was literally only a handful of
vehicles that had surpassed the 200 mile
per hour barrier in production on the road
and gm was doing 124 miles an hour with a
pickup truck.
Now, eventually that top speed would be
beaten out by nearly 190 miles per hour set
by the dodge ram srt10.
But you got to remember that was a b10 from
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a viper jamming underneath the hood of a
pickup truck.
No wonder it was going fast.
Even the quad cab one still did about 180
miles an hour.
But this little bad boy, 124 miles an hour,
5.3 seconds, 0-60 for a mid-sized pickup
truck in 1991.
The average pickup truck at that point in
time is getting about 0-60 times in 10
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seconds.
It was clocking out just over 100 miles an
hour, if you can even get there.
Most vehicles literally went to about 180
kilometers an hour.
That was about it.
This thing was cracking even higher now.
There were problems with it when you really
think about it.
It had an automatic transmission, but
all-wheel drive pickup trucks at this point
in time were only subjected to rear wheel
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drive layout and, still being body-on-frame
products, they were heavy and we all know
from the muscle car days big, heavy
body-on-frame vehicles are great in
straight-line action, but these things
can't handle worse shit on the frickin'
track.
Huh, gm was gonna prove to you that they
could do this.
Why?
By utilizing a Mitsubishi TD06 17C
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turbocharger, this V6 would blow the doors
off anything.
Essentially, utilizing technology from
Japan merged together with an
American-built pickup truck, the Cyclone
was about to take the world by storm.
It ran from 1991.
Only GM had no major plans to keep the
Cyclone in high production volumes.
There's essentially 2,998 Cyclones ever
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made, with three of those being made in
1992.
That's it, 1992.
Technically there's three from 1992 model
year, but in all reality all Syclones are
branded as a 1991 pickup truck because GM
only wanted to come out to the world and
showcase what they could do.
They put tons of money and tons of effort
into this.
They just needed to recoup what they spent
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on this project and prove to the world that
this pickup truck could go as fast as
anything else.
They upgraded the head, gaskets, intake
manifolds, exhaust manifolds and throttle
body from a 5.7 liter small block V8 into
this tiny 4.3 liter V6 turbo.
They strapped on a BorgWarner 4472
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all-wheel drive transfer case with split
torque and 35 percent of power from the
front and 65 percent power to the rear.
Even though it was using an all-wheel drive
system, they still would put more power to
the ground on the rear wheels than they
would on the front, but for stability they
needed to have the power on the front as
well.
It's one of the first first midsize pickup
trucks to ever gain four-wheel anti-lock
brakes.
Because you got to think about it, you got
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to stop this beast.
This thing may be as fast as a Ferrari, but
it weighs more than a Ferrari, utilizing
gauges borrowed from a Pontiac Sunbird
Turbo of all places.
The Syclone looked mean.
It looked like it was ready for life at the
track, but in all reality it was ready for
life at the track, but in all reality it
was made for life on the streets.
They were going to be offering a multitude
of more colors, but because they decided to
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can the truck for 1992 and move on to
another project, its sibling, the Typhoon,
essentially all the Syclones are black,
except for 150 cyclones that were exported
to Saudi Arabia.
Now, essentially 113 of them only made it
to Saudi Arabia, and these were the Saudi
Syclones.
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Their differences was a metric dash cluster,
leaded fuel chip and a resonator in place
of the catalytic converter, because over
there they didn't have to worry about all
that crap that we had to do over here.
At the end of the entire project remember,
you've got to think about it 150 of them
were supposed to be exported.
Now, you have to think about it.
Saudi Arabia market wasn't as big as they
originally thought it was.
You got to remember, 113 of them were
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shipped over there, but 31 of them were
never sold.
Now, in all, there was 150 cyclones made of
the Saudi Arabia package called the Saudi
Syclones 31 of them out out of the 150,
came back to North America and they were
sold at a discounted rate.
And remember, there's 113 of them that went
to Saudi Arabia to be sold.
But these ones, these 31 Saudi ones, came
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back to the United States were sold at a
reduced price back in 1991 for $12,500.
Out of the remaining 69 stockpile that they
never sold in 1991 before they moved on to
their secondary product, were basically
shipped throughout Europe.
A small amount of them ended up in a German
compound where they were eventually sold on
a make-or-take option.
See, German trucks were sold very cheap
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because at that point in time, owning
American vehicles in the European
marketplace, nobody wanted them and because
of all the tight regulations they had for
fuel consumption and hydrocarbons in the
European marketplace these vehicles would
not qualify.
So they literally sat at a German impound
lot for years.
Eventually, like I said, being sold on a
make us an offer.
They were all sold at massive discounted
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rates, even less than the lottery ones that
were sold off to the GM employees back in
the US.
Today the Saudi Syclones that made their
way into German marketplaces are some of
the rarest in the world and now they
command six-figure sales.
Oh yeah, they're worth a fortune.
You got to think about it.
How many pickup trucks, especially North
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American-built pickup trucks, will you ever
find in a European marketplace?
Makes them worth even more Now, out of the
ones that actually did make it to Saudi
Arabia and get sold into their marketplaces.
Most of those are now held by collectors
because they know what they're worth and
because of their rarity, even on a mass
scale of less than 3,000 of them ever being
built.
These Syclones literally just become
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timepieces as an art display.
And, as we talked about in our art cars,
the Syclone and Typhoon layout should
literally be classified as an artistic
rendition.
Sure, they're simple, they're boring,
they're bland, but they get their point
across and people automatically know what
it is Now.
In 1992, a few of the last remaining
Syclones, built right before GM pulled the
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plug on the project, were painted Marlboro
red and thrown into a grand prize pool for
10 people to win in a contest in 1992.
You essentially had to fill out a form of
the questionnaire to enter the contest.
Pretty simple, right?
They're custom ones that they had.
Now these Marlboro bad boys were made by
the American Sunroof Company.
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If you don't know who that is, they do a
lot of custom work, turning a lot of
interesting vehicles into convertibles, and
they did that with the Marlboro Syclone,
seeing that Carroll Shelby and Dodge had
both made a convertible pickup truck for
sale for Chrysler Corporation, with
Chrysler being the only truck only car
company to ever build a convertible truck.
And still build a convertible truck with
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the new Gladiator GM.
Still build a convertible truck with the
new gladiator GMC.
Decided to do this with the Syclones.
The 10 they gave away with the Marlboro
were painted in jet red Marlboro, okay, and
they had a target top.
Oh yeah, showcasing their coolness.
With that target top they had a Gideon hard
Toneau cover, a PPG hot licks red paint
you could spot from anywhere a custom Momo
evolution steering wheel, Sony sound system,
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stainless steel, Borla exhaust system,
Beltec suspension, which essentially
dropped this truck down by three inches
compared to a standard Syclone.
Recaro leather seats with Simpson 5-point
harnesses to prove to the world that you
need to go fast and a Pro-MPG performance
chip to give you an added boost of power.
These things were seriously the most balls
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Syclones ever made and there's only 10 of
them in existence.
They were penned by Larry Shinoda, the
designer of the Corvette Stingray and Boss
Mustang, so you know this thing was going
to look good.
It included a full amount of production
trucks as they started out the standard
trucks and essentially repurposed them.
For the winner, the winners, these 10 very
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lucky people got to travel on an
all-expense paid trip.
Day of racing alongside the IndyCar team
pit crew for Marlboro Racing, which would
be Penske back in the day full VIP access,
tours, photo sessions with the Marlboro
Indy team and a whole swag bag of apparel.
You literally went home with not just a
truck but a whole swag bag of apparel.
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You literally went home with not just a
truck, but a whole shit ton of cool stuff,
and only 10 of them in existence Today.
The Marlboro Syclone is one of the most
sought-after pickup trucks from the 90s.
You could tell me that those RT Durango's or
even the Convertible Dakotas are
sought-after, but no, the Marlboro Syclone,
with 10 of them only kicking around, makes
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them sought after, and on this side of the
pond, those 31 Saudi Syclones are sought
after as well.
So if you're looking for some vehicles to
buy and invest some money in to try and
make some money off, if you can get a good
deal, we're giving you some good ideas
right here.
So listen up.
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please send us an email, give us a holler,
tell us about it, send us a picture.
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Besides that, there was only one other
rendition of the Syclones ever made which
came out the year it was cut from
production.
In 1992, the Indy 500 decided to utilize a
special PPG GMC Syclone.
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They thought they could drum up a little
bit more interest into the vehicle and try
and bring it back into production.
Well, they used a special sticker package,
a PPG multicolor silver, magenta and aqua
paint scheme for these Indy Syclones and
essentially they were only used on May 24,
1992 at the Indy 500, only with a modified
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light bar molded into the roof, racing fuel
cell, built-in halibut and fire suppression
system, water-cooled brakes and a
color-matched interior and a one-piece
toneau cover.
It was only to be utilized as a safety
truck.
Now people loved it so much that it came
back and was utilized for both NASCAR and
Indy races later on and even spawned its
own Typhoon counterpart.
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But unfortunately the original PPG Indy
Syclones never hit the market because they
were only used to display what could have
been had the Syclone made it.
It was only about 3,000 of these things
kicking around and not becoming major sales
only due to the fact that they were
expensive trucks and at that point in time
in 1991, people weren't looking at
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performance pickup truck.
Low rider culture was out there, but low
riders went slow, not fast.
People wanted that mustang or Camaro, not
the Syclone.
In today's day and age, people look back
and wonder why we didn't buy these in
droves, knowing that this project was going
to be canceled and we were going to lose
one of the most amazing pickup trucks in
history and could have had indie Syclones
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out there.
The only one in existence was retired to
the gm heritage collection after its use.
But, as most things go, gm likes to sell
off a lot of their heritage stuff to
personal collections.
Instead of building a massive museum and
making tons of money off of people who want
to come and see some of the greatest
general motors vehicles of all time, they
sell it off to private investors.
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A private collector bought it in 2009 for
$66 000 in 2009.
Got to remember, in 2009 people still
weren't thinking about the Syclones as a
cool pickup truck.
We're just now starting to think about it
because nostalgia has finally crept up
until the early 90s and we're starting to
see stuff from the 90s as being cool, and
that truck was 90s and was cool.
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So in today's day and age, that's a
valuable commodity.
The GM decided to pull the plug on the
Syclone only for one main reason they
didn't sell a ton of Syclones because most
people with pickup trucks weren't thinking
of performance pickup trucks and, like I
said, the only other aftermarket industry
that people were looking at was, trust me,
Chevy was not lowrider culture approved.
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People wanted Mazda's, Nissans, Toyotas,
hell, they even wanted Ford Rangers, more
so the GMC Sonoma's.
So the Syclone didn't really have a market
that wasn't a big mid-sized truck market
that demanded a performance truck like this.
But GM, knowing that they had built this
amazing beast of a truck, needed to keep it
going and for that they brought out its
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most famous sibling of all time, the GMC
Typhoon, hitting the market for only two
years.
Essentially they sold less over the course
of the two years, if you combine them, uh,
than what the Syclones would have sold in
one year, selling only 4,697 Typhoons
across two production years.
The Typhoon essentially wasn't as big a
success as they thought it would be.
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But the reasoning for keeping it around for
a lot longer is people wanted the Syclones
but they were all gone.
An SUV market was starting to take off.
Between 92 and 93, ford gave us the
Explorer.
It started showcasing the slow rise of the
SUV craze, essentially, before SUVs became
big and cool vehicles that everyone wanted,
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20 years before the market literally blew
up, GMC was there with the Typhoon, the
fastest production SUV the world had ever
seen.
They essentially built six pre-production
vehicles.
In 1991, during the Syclone's reign, they
wanted to go one step further with the
Typhoon, though.
They wanted to not just be super fast, but
they wanted it to be a bit better ride.
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You got to remember this one's got four
seats, not just two.
The Typhoon actually featured an air open,
self-leveling rear suspension system to
make the ride seem like you're on a cloud,
a cloud that's traveling at 130 miles an
hour through the sky.
So its times for the Typhoon were very
similar to that of the Syclone sibling 0-60,
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5.3 seconds quarter mile and 14.1 at 95
miles an hour.
So a little bit slower there, but just as
cool.
The one thing that the Typhoon did get over
its Syclone sibling was more colors.
You have to remember the Syclone was in
black.
Unless you got a Saudi Syclone, a Marlboro
one or that one special person that managed
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to get the PPG Indy pace truck, you only
got black.
Well, the Typhoon came in 13 color
combinations, with Midnight Black being the
most popular amongst all of them.
So the Typhoon essentially everybody still
just wanted a black.
But again it's the early 90s and
everybody's thinking it's still about
muscle cars how the import scene started to
come in.
We're getting Supra's and RX-7s, we're
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getting all these cool sports cars, and
they're everywhere.
And this is a truck that costs double what
I could pay to get a Supra at this point in
time.
So why the hell would I even think about
getting this thing when I could just go out
and buy a cool sports car, hell one that
even has back seats in it and I don't look
like I'm you know, grandpa just going out
of the store?
You got to remember trucks were not a cool
commodity in the beginning of the 90s.
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GMC started this and then Ford got into it
and then Dodge got into it real later on,
the performance truck ring really didn't
heat up until the first Fast and Furious
movie, when everybody saw that Ford
Lightning, that Paul Walker was driving, it
was like, oh my God, that's a performance
truck, that's a Mustang truck.
Well, I got to have one of those.
And then performance trucks came out.
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It was 10 years too early for both the
Syclone and the Typhoon.
Today we think we really need these things
to come out.
And well, there are aftermarket companies
that will do this for you, but not you know
to the exact scale that you should actually
have one at.
Today we don't have any major performance
trucks.
Oh, you can fight me on that and say you
got the ZR2 Bison and the AT4X and blah,
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blah, blah, blah, blah.
Okay, yeah.
Yeah, there are performance orientated
products for GMC trucks today, but they're
all made for the off-road circuit, not for
street race.
But you have to remember we're not allowed
to street race anymore, so trucks like this
are from the past.
In the end, the Syclone with its 2998 sold
and the Typhoon with 4697 sold really
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doesn't put a dent in the major aftermarket
industry, but made a stand to showcase to
the world that GMC could build the fastest
pickup truck in the world.
It could jam a turbo underneath the hood
with a V6 and make this thing outperform V8
and V10 supercars.
Unfortunately, gm would never live up to
its code and never bring something so
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amazing like the Syclone out ever again.
Okay, at least for the street market.
In 1992, to go along with the Typhoon, GMC
decided to kind of keep the Syclone on the
market, giving us the GMC Sonoma GT Priced
at a lower price point and with the same
exterior package as the Syclone.
It gave people the look of having a Syclone
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but not having a turbocharged pickup truck
that could literally eat a Ferrari for
breakfast.
The Sonoma GT of 1992 literally was a
non-turbo version of the 4.3 liter v6.
It did have a sport performance package, a
lower price option than the syclones and
did come in more colors.
You can can find Sonoma GTs in black, red,
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white, aspen blue, teal and forest green,
unlike the Syclone in its black-only option.
But because it didn't have the performance
package that the original Syclone had with
it, only 806 Sonoma GTs were ever produced,
kind of putting an end to the monster that
they had created.
You have to remember the Buick GNX was only
around for a short amount of time too.
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Grand created.
You have to remember the Buick GNX was only
around for a short amount of time too.
Grand National kicked it.
But the GNX package that was a twin-turbo
V6 that literally beat supercars from a
boring, grandma-styled coupe.
GM knows how to take the most basic, boring,
bland packaging and make it the coolest,
fastest thing the world has ever seen, and
they did that with the Syclone and the
Typhoon.
The GT never really brought back what the
Syclone was.
It gave us the appearance package of it,
but it wasn't what the Syclone was.
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Today we kind of look forward to a future
of maybe general motors bringing it back,
if the rumors are true and gm is
considering bringing back the jimmy
nameplate to go up against the wrangler,
the bronco and the Land Cruiser and hell, even
the possibility of the new FJ Cruiser from
Toyota and an Xterra from Nissan.
If they decide to bring back the Jimmy in
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an actual format that it should be A
body-on-frame SUV with a brand new Canyon
on the market, maybe our future holds some
light for a brand new Syclone and Typhoon
duo.
It would be an amazing thing to see, even
in a limited production.
You have to remember there's a Trans Am
company in the States that custom made only
a few of them bandit style Camaros with
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GM's approval.
Trans Am Depot really wanted to do that for
us.
Or maybe Lingenfelter can do that for us,
or even Yenko.
Bring us back the Syclone and Typhoon.
Give us the performance product that we
loved from the early 90s.
With nostalgia starting to come out with
90s stuff now, maybe it's time to revisit
some of these performance vehicles and cool
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sports cars that once graced our famous
roads.
Because, trust me, if I ever found one of
these Syclones and Typhoons near me and it
was a cheap price, we're talking like under
five grand, just kicking around and it ran
I would snap that thing up in an instant,
knowing how powerful and fun that truck was.
I would just love to sit in one of those
seats of the Marlboro Syclone, look out
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that window and just imagine myself back in
the 90s cruising around listening to a CD
in my vehicle, because everybody else is
still listening to tapes.
I have a CD player with a banging stereo
system.
I was the coolest thing around and I have
one of the coolest things around.
So if anyone from GM is actually listening
to us, take this into consideration.
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You may have killed off the Camaro once
again, but maybe you should give us some
performance aftermarket variations of the
brand new Canyon and hell.
If you're looking for a way to bring back
the Typhoon, hell, use the Yukon if you
really have to.
But we just want to see one of these things
in existence one more time.
Let's give us our performance truck back.
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Let's give us the fire-breathing,
Ferrari-eating Syclone and Typhoon duel and
then maybe we'll be happy.
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And he was made for that truck.
That truck was made for him.
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could afford to go out and get one of these
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things, I would definitely take my uncle
for a ride and let him drive the truck that
was made for him.
And after you've hit like, after you've
commented, after you've sent us an email at
email@autolooks.net, telling us about your
favorite part of the Syclone Typhoon duo,
stop by the website, read some of the
reviews, check out some of the ratings.
Go to the Corporate Links website page.
Big or small, we have them all car
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companies from around the globe, all
available on one website that is the
autolooks.net website.
The autolooks podcast is brought to you by
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If you'd like to get in touch with us, send
us an email over at email at AutoLooks.net.
So for myself, Everett J., the host of the
AutoLooks podcast and the owner of the
autolooks.net website from podbean.com and Ecomm
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Entertainment Group, strap yourself in for
this one fun balls deep ride.
We're gonna have a one of the most
performance orientated kickin' ass trucks
from the 90s.
Thank you.