July 13, 2026 • 65 mins
The Catholic internet can make you feel like you have to pick a team every five minutes and if you refuse, you’re the enemy. We’re tired of that, so we talk honestly about burnout after the SSPX blowups, the pressure to perform certainty online, and why stepping away for a weekend can reset your head and your heart. Sometimes the most “traditional” move is closing the apps and living your actual vocation.
We also get into the most sobering kind of reality check: a funeral Mass where basic Eucharistic discipline and liturgical boundaries feel optional. When priests refuse to clarify Communion norms or let the liturgy turn into something improvised, families leave confused and scandalized. That experience feeds right back into the bigger SSPX and Traditional Latin Mass debate, Traditionis Custodes, and the question we keep circling: how do we acknowledge authority while still naming injustice and bad governance?
Then we deliberately pivot to real life: Fourth of July on the water, fireworks, a sudden storm that changes everything, travel plans for an anniversary trip, and the very normal joys and risks of hobbies like quadding and side-by-sides. We close by reacting to the tradwife trend and the media’s caricature of marriage, work, and “fulfillment,” with a blunt reminder that meaning is usually built slowly, at home, with your spouse and kids.
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SPEAKER_06 (00:45):
Holy crap.
SPEAKER_04 (00:52):
I am so tired of the SSPX and SETA conversation, man.
I'm just so done with it.
I'm spent.
Oh my gosh.
I was telling Rob in the greenroom, it's like now I have
burnout on it, but it was coolto have like a topic to talk
about for a couple of episodesbecause it's it's been it's just
(01:14):
been like a content droughtgoing on for a while.
So it was like nice to have somestuff going on, but we lost a
lot of local subs.
I think all our SSPX uh fans aremad at us for not taking a
strong stance on this thing.
It's uh it's just an all-aroundcrap situation.
Yeah, it's just an all-aroundcrap situation.
(01:37):
Uh no wonder this show runs atfinancial loss.
Yeah.
Um, I'm just glad we I got tosmash some grass into JP3.
That's that's Sethi Picante's uhpuppet change I asked GPT.
SPEAKER_05 (01:52):
I asked Taffy if he could uh change it to where I
blow away the stupid puppet withthe gun.
And um that'll get yeah, Taffypointed that out.
SPEAKER_04 (02:02):
So so we are doing all right, so we're doing uh
we're doing that on Tuesday.
We just so all right, so wefigured this episode we don't
really like have like a thisepisode's gonna be like home
kind of all over the place.
We're just gonna be hanging outtalking about whatever the
hell's on our mind.
But um we Rob had a funeral thisweek.
Um we had 4th of July over theweekend.
(02:25):
So the thing is to get back intothis, like this this next one
really is a heavy one, so it'snot like one that I could just
listen to the audio of theencyclical on my way home from
work and then just like jump onand riff on it.
It's some very deep stuff.
Like I so I bought this book, umThe Church Speaks to the Modern
(02:46):
World, uh, and it's um thesocial teachings of Leo the
13th, basically.
And it's just it's just a verydense topic, and I kind of want
to do how much did it make afront's funeral video?
So I didn't know you wanted topost that, Rob.
I but you sent it to us in thegroup chat.
SPEAKER_05 (03:04):
Well, more like I let's just say I didn't want a
hundred thousand people to seeit, Ant.
SPEAKER_04 (03:12):
I didn't say who was where it was from, though.
I just I think that song itbrings back such nostalgia for
me, you know.
SPEAKER_05 (03:20):
I I wish I was using my my glasses so I couldn't zoom
in.
I wish I could have zoomed in onthe priest sitting there, like
performatively singing along toit with his legs crossed.
SPEAKER_04 (03:31):
We can see his legs crossed, but I couldn't really
see his face or anything, butit's uh you have to understand,
my mom would play these NovaSoto bangers in the car when I
was growing up.
Like, I have like my mom wouldplay these songs, and especially
after they got back fromMetrigory when I was a kid.
(03:52):
My mom would really sing thesein the car.
When I die, I hope my nephewfilms the funeral for Cloud and
Trad box.
SPEAKER_05 (03:58):
I didn't get the trad box.
SPEAKER_04 (04:01):
So Rob sent us the video, and I was just like, This
song is great.
Like it's one of the uh it'slike uh what do you call that?
A um uh a guilty pleasure.
You hear it, and you're like, Ihate this song, but really you
like it.
SPEAKER_05 (04:15):
But why was it the responsorial psalm?
SPEAKER_04 (04:18):
Oh, I it was it?
I didn't know, yeah, it was.
I thought it was like acommunion hymn.
SPEAKER_05 (04:22):
No, that was that was the responsorial psalm.
SPEAKER_04 (04:26):
Um, so yeah, so Rob wanted to say, what Rob wanted
to Rob wanted this title andtopic tonight because both of us
had uh last weekend kind ofchecked out of social media and
uh just went and like lived ourlives a little bit.
And Rob took his kids uhquadding and four-wheeling and
(04:46):
stuff, and I went and I went outon the boat and watched
fireworks from the boat.
And I actually have a story thatI want to tell, but I can't tell
it on this side.
I tried to get into it withHitchborne a little bit, and I I
can't do it without you.
Like I need you to to to bounceover like Hitchbourne.
I tried to delve into it alittle bit, but it just wasn't
(05:07):
it wasn't it wasn't the right uhHe didn't know how to respond
properly to the stuff he was Idon't know it just would have
been better if you were therebecause I could have like it's
it was a very Anthony story, youknow.
So and uh I didn't know it is Ididn't want to seem like I was
gossiping with uh Hitchboard.
So I I'll do it tonight over onthe other side.
But uh how how was your uh yourtime away?
SPEAKER_05 (05:32):
Uh the weekend was good.
The weekend was very good.
The funeral ruined itafterwards, but the weekend was
good.
SPEAKER_04 (05:40):
Yeah, the funeral, man.
It's like when you're going touh a novus order funeral that
you have no say over, you'reyou're playing novus orto
roulette.
Like you don't know what you'regoing to get.
It's a total disaster.
SPEAKER_05 (05:55):
It could be, you know, you could possibly this
was the same church, same priestas my grandma's, and they told
the priest they wanted it thesame as my grandma's, the exact
same.
So I knew what we were walkinginto, right?
But uh um we had asked thepriest if he could say something
(06:23):
about communion, because at mygrandma's funeral, for those of
you who didn't hear that acouple months ago, one of my
family members who isn't theywere probably baptized Catholic,
maybe at first communion, butnothing after that.
Um, you know, for 15 years.
Uh one of them went up, well,one of them they all went up to
(06:44):
receive communion, even thoughno one's practicing.
And one of them took it in herhand and walked back to the pew
with it.
Right?
So after that debacle, where weasked the priest this time,
could you say something aboutwho can properly receive
communion?
She goes, No, I don't do that.
It causes more issues.
And then my my priest, man.
(07:05):
Yeah, well, then my aunt, so umat the my grandma's funeral, my
cousin gave a eulogy after mass.
In the sanctuary still, but atleast after mass.
My aunt was gonna give a eulogybefore mass, and so she asked
the priest, could she, you know,she said, Okay, well then I'll
I'll say something to everyonegathered about it, you know,
(07:28):
before after the eulogy.
He goes, No, I won't let you dothat.
He he literally forbid forbid itfrom being said.
SPEAKER_04 (07:39):
Like honestly, look.
SPEAKER_05 (07:42):
So what is I just the third person in line went
up, took the host, went rightback to their pew.
And didn't take and didn't andthen put it.
Well, I don't know what wouldhave happened if someone didn't
tell them to, but yeah, it's uhdude, I uh man.
SPEAKER_04 (08:00):
It's it's hard to it's hard to um argue against
the society's position.
That's all I'll say.
Like it's just you see stufflike that going on, you wonder
why these men even becamepriests, and you wonder what it
is that they even like they haveabsolutely no concern for the
faith whatsoever.
Like zero.
SPEAKER_05 (08:20):
This this man does doesn't believe the faith.
This priest does not, there's noway.
Yeah, it's just hard to so sothat like I said, my aunt was
gonna give a eulogy before mass.
He's he starts mass, forgets allabout the eulogy until after the
first reading.
(08:41):
Remembers well, I sorry, untilafter the responsorial song that
was actually on Eagle's wings.
Then he remembers about theeulogy, and instead of waiting
for the end of mass, has hergive it right then in between
the two readings.
SPEAKER_04 (08:54):
So basically, your aunt gave the homily.
Yes, essentially, essentially,essentially your aunt gave the
homily, it makes sense.
SPEAKER_05 (09:03):
Like the this is in the Archdiocese of St.
Paul Minneapolis, and theArchdiocese is actually pretty
strict on no eulogies in mass.
Yeah, like in all theirdocumentation, they make it very
clear priests are not to alloweulogies inside mass.
Well, this priest does what hewants, I guess.
SPEAKER_04 (09:19):
Yeah, I mean, we're I we're going to have to like
for me, I'm going to have toleave like instructions in my
will.
You know, there's going to beinstructions in my will of what
I want done because I don't wantany of this nonsense going on.
I mean, my family's good enoughthat you know, I don't have to
worry too much, but it's justit's just crazy.
I don't know.
(09:40):
It sucks, but like the wholepoint of what what Rob wanted
with the title was basicallylike go out and touch grass
because getting off the internetfor a couple of days, it's like
you get away from the vitriolonline and the Catholic drama,
and because I've seen on in thepast few days there's just so
(10:01):
much animosity on social mediaright now.
Like people are there, like we II try to take a measured
approach with the society thing.
Like the thing is, I I I havethe position I have, right?
And my my position is not that Idon't like I completely
understand the society, it'smore just I think we are ruled
(10:22):
by Cretans right now, but Ithink we are to be subject to
them, and I think that's likehow we're subject to them will
like make us holy.
But I may be wrong.
Like, I don't know.
I don't know.
That's just kind of the way I'mI'm um and I don't have a dog in
the fight with the society, likeI don't go to a society chapel,
(10:43):
so I'm I don't know.
I tried to give a measuredapproach to it, but people don't
want a measured approach rightnow.
They want you to either be 100%in they just want you to agree
with whatever they believe.
Yeah, so people are just stuckin echo chambers right now.
They're just stuck in echochambers.
And if you're well, I had thatlike this guy, Mark, that
follows me on X, he watches ourshow all the time, and he's
like, I tuned in for fiveminutes and had to tune out.
(11:05):
These guys are Pope spleaners.
It's like, you think I'm a Popespleener?
Are you insane?
Like, in no way would I defendany of the garbage coming out of
the Vatican, any of the garbageLeo's doing.
My position is just that okay.
So we'll you know what?
Why don't we do the Esquirevideo real quick?
Because uh like I I CatholicEsquire is my friend.
(11:29):
Like, I I watch all of the stuffhe puts out, and he put out a
video today that I was I likethe argument didn't logically
follow what he was saying.
Uh so I it's a one-minute clip.
I want to just play theone-minute clip because it the
way he's framing it is animproper framing.
(11:49):
And let's just go through hisclip and then I'll I'll keep
I'll speak my piece.
SPEAKER_02 (12:00):
All right.
In this video today, we're gonnalook at this because it's very
apparent if the SSPX was wrongfor consecrating bishops in
order to preserve the Catholicfaith, to keep tradition alive
in the face of the errors of thesecond Vatican Council and
everything that sprang from thesecond Vatican Council,
(12:22):
including the new mass, if theSSPX is wrong about that, then
logically speaking, according toall the critics of the SSPX, and
I'm talking about TaylorMarshall, Eric Sammons, um uh
Joseph Shaw, all of these guyswho claim to love tradition, who
(12:43):
claim to love the traditionalLatin mass, who claim to be
submissive and obedient to Leo,all of these guys need to accept
the logical consequence of theirposition, and that is uh the
traditionus custodis is correct.
And so if they come out andclaim that traditionos custodis
(13:05):
is wrong, and yet the SSPX iswrong at the same time, that is
a major violation of the law ofnon-contradiction and hypocrisy.
SPEAKER_04 (13:15):
Okay, so pause it.
So, all right, so the thing is Ithink Leo was wrong to not let
them consecrate the bishops,right?
Like I think Leo was Leo shouldhave let them consecrate the
bishops.
I agree with the SSPX that allof this stuff is rooted in the
Second Vatican Council and therevolution that took place
(13:37):
there.
Like, I agree with the society'sposition.
My position is not that Leo didthe right thing here.
My position is just that Leo hasthe authority to either give
them a mandate or excommunicatethem if they don't have the
mandate or whatever, right?
So it's it but it also doesn'tfollow that just because they
think Leo is wrong, that meansthe SSPX is right.
(14:00):
Like they're right in theirargument, but that doesn't mean
they're right to go about theconsecration without the papal
mandate.
Now, it it's it's just such atricky topic because I agree
with the society in substance.
Like I go back and I listen toLefebvre and I'm like, holy
crap, man, like everything thisguy's saying is correct.
(14:22):
Anybody who loves thetraditional mass, like for you
to for you to not give Lefebvrelike like without Lefebvre, we
don't have the traditionalmovement the way we do right
now.
Like it just doesn't, like weprobably would have never got
some more in pontificum withoutLefebvre, all of that stuff.
Lefebvre is like the reason thatthe traditional movement took
(14:44):
shape and and had any kind ofform, right?
And it's like to to just becausethey think Leo is wrong for not
giving them permission doesn'tmean they should just take that
authority upon themselves and doit without permission, if that
makes sense.
Like it's not I don't know.
(15:04):
I like I don't I don't like theway he's like, and of course, I
so e okay, so with traditionuscustodus, right?
He's saying if you think thesociety's wrong, then you have
to think TC is right.
It's like, no, I think TC istrash, but I also do think the
Pope has the authority topromulgate the document, TC.
Like he's the Pope.
So even though I hate thedocument, I still think the Pope
(15:25):
has the authority to put it out.
And that and just because Ithink the document is unjust and
cruel doesn't mean that we havethe right to go start having
illicit masses and do whateverwe want and disobey it.
So, like to some degree, we mayget stuck going to a novus order
or finding a Byzantine liturgyor whatever we have to do to
survive.
(15:46):
My point is that the Pope doeshave the authority.
And uh and the only otherposition you could take is that
the Pope is not the Pope.
And I don't I I don't I don'tsee how I you know I don't I
can't take that position.
And yeah, I don't think you haveto go along with TC and think TC
is uh a logical, like logicallythat TC is correct.
(16:09):
None of that.
I I think that we're ruled byCretans right now.
So play play the next the thenext video above that.
It's actually Catherine and Markfrom Catholic Unscripted uh
looking at a video out ofEngland of a gay blessing at a
novice ordo uh with a cardinalthere.
(16:31):
Which is like when I saw thisvideo, it's like you know what?
It's like I yeah.
If they could do something likethis, if they could do something
like this without consequence,like the SSPX should do whatever
the hell they want to do.
Like, I I'm almost at that pointwhen you see something like
this.
SPEAKER_01 (16:53):
Giving thanks, that the church offers blessing to
those who seek it in spirits andin truth.
We ask, oh God of love, thatyour grace come down upon Julian
and Martin as they mark the 50thanniversary of their
relationship.
SPEAKER_00 (17:13):
Say that you can't bless couples, you can bless
individuals.
You know, like isn't that isn'tthe it very clear in Fiducia
Supplicans that you can't doexactly what they're doing here?
SPEAKER_07 (17:25):
Yeah, well, so Bishop Moth, what's gonna happen
now?
That's the question, isn't it?
We could look at this all daylong, but it happened, and it
happened with a cardinal and thechurch in Westminster.
SPEAKER_04 (17:39):
I'm watching I'm watching Pope Splainers say,
Well, they're clearly doingsomething against church
teaching, and it's like fiduciusdoes not give permission to
this, so they're going againstchurch teaching.
It's like at this point, whocares what the document says?
They're clearly doing thisanyway, and there'll be
absolutely no consequenceswhatsoever.
SPEAKER_05 (18:01):
Nothing's gonna be done about it, absolutely
nothing.
SPEAKER_04 (18:04):
So the whole point of the document was to give
cover for guys to go and do thisand then just go, oh, we
misinterpreted the document.
It's this nonsense trash thatcomes out.
So now you look at the society'sposition and they go, Oh, yeah,
let's yeah, okay, we can't doit.
We're gonna like the society'slike, we're just going to be
Catholic, uh, and we needbishops, and we're just going to
(18:26):
continue on with the missionthat we've been doing since 19
whenever Lefebvre started thethe society was in the 70s.
Like, they're just going tocontinue on doing what they're
doing.
And you have to, in somerespect, just go, yeah, all
right, man.
Like, honestly, the the theinfighting I'm watching in the
Catholic world right now is soinsane because people are losing
friendships over this, and it'slike, I may have like my opinion
(18:49):
on on like, yeah, the Popeprobably has the authority,
maybe they shouldn't have donethis, but like, I don't look at
guys that go to the SSPX anydifferent.
Like, I don't think they'reschismatics and not Catholic.
I just I'm just like, uh, Idon't know.
Technically, I probably wouldside with the Pope has the
authority.
That's just where I kind of fallon that side of the argument.
But I don't, I mean, you seetrash like that, and you're just
(19:11):
like, We are living like if thisisn't the great apostasy, I
don't know what the hell thegreat apostasy is gonna look
like, man.
SPEAKER_05 (19:20):
It can always get worse, eh?
SPEAKER_04 (19:22):
It's going to get worse.
That's the thing.
It's going to get worse, it'sabsolutely going to get worse.
It's just, I just I don't know,man.
This is like that.
Is what the hell is that?
That's worse than any Anglicanservice I've ever seen.
That is horrific what we justwatched.
Yep.
It's just it's just insane.
So I don't know.
Yeah.
(19:42):
I like I'm I'm tired of talkingabout this topic.
I don't I want to drop it and Iwant to leave it alone.
And I I don't want like I don'twant to lose friends over this
crap.
Like, we all know the inside.
Like, honestly, I hate thefreaking Novus Ordo.
And part of the reason I hatethe sedes is because all they do
is shove the Novus Ordo down mythroat.
It's like I don't want to thinkabout the Novus Ordo.
I don't want to look at it.
(20:02):
I just want to live my Catholicfaith the best I can.
My SSPX priest went above andbeyond to take care of my son
from his birth to death where Ilive.
Not a single Novus Ordo priestwould do do what they did.
So uh Joe Boca went.
So Joe Boca was going to thesociety for years, and then um
he he started, he had like uh asecurity gig where he was
(20:24):
working night.
So he was I was seeing him everyweek at the uh diocesan TLM.
So he's because the diocesan'sway later in the day.
There's one at 11 30 and there'sone at 12 30.
So I was seeing him at thediocesan Latin mass for like the
past year because it's justeasier for him to go.
He's staying up late at nightworking security, and then he
(20:44):
goes to that.
So he hasn't been to the chapel,to the society chapital in about
a year.
And he went after theconsecrations and he said, Um,
father, like chased him, chasedhim down.
He's like, Joe, where have youbeen?
You know, and he and he was justlike, you know, he's just very
concerned for his soul and veryconcerned for him.
So it's like, yeah, like you'retalking about priests who have
(21:06):
genuine care for souls.
You're talking about priests whohave genuine care for the
Catholic faith.
And to put that up against thegarbage we just watched, I don't
know.
Like, I don't honestly, I don'tgood for good for the I'm glad
they did what they did,whatever.
Go at it, guys.
SPEAKER_05 (21:20):
The gays or the SSBX?
SPEAKER_04 (21:25):
The gays are gonna end up in hell.
That's all I know.
SPEAKER_05 (21:28):
But I can't I can't not according to the church,
yeah.
No, according to the church, theSSBX are gonna end up in hell.
SPEAKER_04 (21:39):
Uh it is, dude.
It is just such a crap showright now.
SPEAKER_05 (21:43):
But remember, the Orthodox can give you
confession, but uh SSBX can't.
SPEAKER_04 (21:48):
Yeah.
Yeah, it's like, and then umwe'll we'll cover a few things
before we head over to locals.
We're gonna probably do a longerlocal show tonight.
We'll do a short YouTube showtonight.
Um What else did I put in here?
I have I threw some uh I threwthat that that I love how we
talked about the topic for 30seconds.
Yeah, because I don't reallywant to what the actual show
(22:11):
topic?
Yeah, the show topic.
All right, so we can do that.
Um well I can't talk about lastweekend because we're gonna do
that on locals, but uhtomorrow's my 21st wedding
anniversary, so I have off ofwork tomorrow.
And I'm leaving my house at 8a.m.
And I'm leaving.
I can you pull up a map of LongIsland?
(22:31):
Maybe I should do it and shareit because then I could use my
my arrow pointer.
Um so I'm heading to um I'm I'mheading um me and my wife are
leaving in the morning to go toum Greenport.
Let me see, Matt Long Island.
(22:52):
Let me see if I can pull thisup.
SPEAKER_03 (22:59):
Let me see if I can share a screen here.
Share a screen.
SPEAKER_05 (23:08):
There we go.
I can do this.
I got this, guys.
This is this is big guys.
What kind of map is this?
SPEAKER_04 (23:17):
I don't know.
I'm just pulling something up soyou can see.
SPEAKER_05 (23:19):
This is terrible.
SPEAKER_04 (23:20):
Oh, you can't even see my pointer on it.
There's no point in doing this.
You got a better map.
Pull up a map of Long Island.
I thought I could, I thought youwould see my uh all right.
So you're gonna zoom in abouthalfway on the island on the
south shore, and you're gonnasee Patchog.
Uh it's gonna be uh further uhuh east.
(23:43):
So all right, so now you seeLong Island, right?
You see the bottom of LongIsland, and then you see that
barrier beach, right?
And you see that body of waterin the middle, right?
So you all right, so thatbarrier beach, that's fire
island.
Uh and you have the south shore.
So that that barrier beach, thatyou have that's the barrier
beach right there.
The ocean's on the side whereyour arrow pointer is.
SPEAKER_05 (24:04):
Oh, Cherry Grove, that's the real game.
SPEAKER_04 (24:06):
Right there, exactly.
Okay, so where your arrow is isthe um Atlantic, okay?
Yeah, yeah.
Uh on the inside, on the otherside of the barrier beach,
that's the great south bay.
So right about where you are isum it's probably a little
further east, is is Patchog.
So go right there, Patchog Bay.
(24:27):
So I'm gonna go out there andI'm gonna go in the Great South
Bay and I'm gonna head all theway east.
Um, so go east, go east,further, further.
Now you see that little crackwhere it leads out to the the
ocean right there?
Right there.
That's Rich's inlet.
So I'm gonna go from Patchog outto Merch's Inlet.
I go out onto the ocean, andthen I go further east on the
(24:50):
ocean.
Because if I stay in the GreatSouth Bay, I have to go five
miles an hour the whole way.
Keep going all yeah.
So go, I'm on the oceantomorrow.
Keep going, keep going, keepgoing, keep going.
Right there is that's theShinnecock inlet.
Okay, so I come in theShinnecock inlet there, then go
north, and then you see thatchannel right there that goes
(25:11):
into that next body of water,those are the locks right there,
okay?
I have to go through those locksand then into the Baconic, which
is the in between the two forks,and then I gotta go all the way
east, and I gotta go basicallyalmost to Montauk.
And you'll see Greenport on thenorth side of the south side of
the North Fork is Greenport, allthe way out.
All right, and that's where I'mgonna head.
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It's a it's gonna be like athree-hour journey with a long
ride on the ocean tomorrow.
So we're getting up about 8 a.m.
to go because it we're gettingthunderstorms and bad weather in
the afternoon tomorrow.
So I'm getting up early, it's myanniversary, 21 years, and we're
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gonna take that trek, and thenwe're staying uh in Greenport
for the weekend.
And I'm going to not touchgrass, but I will be touching
plenty of water.
SPEAKER_05 (26:04):
I have a bunch of cousins coming up and renting a
house about half an hour awayfrom us.
And I'm gonna get up reallyearly on Saturday and take the
the quad, the side by side.
How long do you have it?
Oh, I I bought one yesterday.
SPEAKER_04 (26:21):
You you bought it.
So Rob last week, he's like, I'mrenting one to see if I like it.
And uh, if I like it, I mightbuy one and he might have buying
it.
Good for you, man.
They're so much fun, aren'tthey?
SPEAKER_05 (26:34):
Uh it's a lot of fun.
The one I rented over theweekend was much more of the
like workhorse on the ranch sortof ver, you know, uh side by
side.
And it was not super fun on thetrails.
Like it was it was rough ridingon the trails.
So uh the one I bought is muchmore of a much more for the
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trails and should be a lotfunner up here.
SPEAKER_04 (27:01):
Yeah, my uncle had my uncle had like a like seven
of them, right?
You know, like my uncle had agarage full of quads and
side-by-sides.
When you came, I think there wasonly two side-by-sides.
He used to have like five ofthem, but he had a thousand cc
razor two-seater.
That thing did zero to six feetin like three seconds.
SPEAKER_05 (27:23):
Mine's uh a thousand cc four-seater.
Yeah, think of it as it's not,it's not uh it's not razor, it's
uh can a maverick, but it's thesame style, but it's
four-seater.
SPEAKER_04 (27:34):
Dude, they're so much fun, man.
We would, I mean, I we would goout drinking and driving on the
bus property.
It was so bad.
So many accidents.
I had we went up one time, itwas like all the guys from work
went, and we we go and we'rewe're driving them out.
There's like these power linesup on my uncle's property, and
we're flying on them.
(27:55):
And uh they had they col one ofthe quads collided into one of
them, and my friend went overthe front.
We had to have them airliftedout because we couldn't get him
back to the house with afreaking helicopter, had to come
out by the freaking uh the thepower lines and pick them up,
and he got airlifted out.
They charge they charged him 40grand for that helicopter ride.
SPEAKER_05 (28:14):
Yeah.
Every time I heard every sobecause I know your uncle sold
the house up there, but uh everytime you went up there and used
those things, you broke onebroke every single time.
Every time it was it was it wasnever like it's like what you
know, Ant's gonna have to comehere and you'll have to take him
on, like, yeah, but he's notallowed to drive, he breaks.
SPEAKER_04 (28:35):
I never broke one, I never broke one.
That's what's funny.
It was always people I broughtthat used them, and they broke
them.
It was every time it was eithermy brother-in-law broke it or my
son's friend broke it.
I never broke any of them, butthey were never like$500 fixes,
they were always like$2,500fixes.
And my uncle was so bad at meevery time he always paid to fix
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it too.
He never took money from me.
It was just so nuts.
But they're so much fun, they'rejust dangerous, man.
I mean, you're um you're gonnabe careful on it, but like we
would use them.
Like my son's friend wasdrinking and driving on the
thing, and he hit a tree stumpand he freaking bent the whole
frame on it.
SPEAKER_05 (29:13):
Well, so hope's nieces were killed on one, like
three on a quad though, right?
Not no, it was a side-by-side,really.
So it took all it took a longtime before Hope was comfortable
with this idea.
SPEAKER_04 (29:25):
Yeah, yeah, you just have to be cautious on them.
I know a few people that died onquads.
I I know at least three peoplethat died on quads.
I had I had one friend, onefriend is paralyzed from them.
I have another another uh it waslike a total freak accident.
Was um my my wife's cousin'sfriends, they were up on their
house up at their house usingthem, and he was just like
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riding it from the driveway intothe garage to put it away, and
the thing just took off and heand he hit a tree and wound up
dying on it.
And they're very like quads areway more.
I always got nervous with quads,but at least the side by sides
you put seat belts on, like theseat belts, helmets, yeah.
Yeah, like helmets, seat belts,the thing that always had a roll
cage on it.
So, like I like I've seen guysflip them and they're they're
(30:08):
okay.
You know, you just gotta becareful on them.
But um, yeah, it's just likewhen you turn the social media
off and you get out of yourhouse and you go live a little
bit, you kind of forget all thiscrap is going on, and then
you're just reminded of it ifyou gotta go play novus or
roulette.
Like if you're if you're ifyou're not at your home place
where you like to go to mass,you're gonna you never know what
(30:30):
you're gonna get.
SPEAKER_05 (30:31):
What really um I I won't say like it didn't anger
me, but what like bewildered mewas seeing the number of of
people, especially people whoclaim to want to live
traditional lives, post aboutthis sort of stuff on the fo
literally on the fourth of July.
Yeah, you know what I mean?
Like, yeah, that's nuts.
(30:52):
Like, yeah, how what how whatcould be more modernist than a
lay person complaining aboutchurch politics on the internet
on the you know on a majornational holiday?
SPEAKER_04 (31:04):
50th anniversary of our country.
It was a dude, we we were outand just like you like I saw
some of the videos you you sentme, and they you're just like
walking around, it was like suchAmericano.
It was like like small townAmericana, just people out
walking around the town, youguys are just all hanging out,
and you know, you stay for afireworks show and stuff.
Like there's something very umand just getting people together
(31:29):
like that.
The Fourth of July, I do likefor that reason, right?
Like you get you get groups ofpeople together, everybody pulls
their lawn chair up, and theyjust kind of you know pull up a
seat and they watch thefireworks.
Like we we watched them.
I gotta tell the full story onthe other side because I can't
really tell it.
But like me and my wife werewatching them from the boat.
We had people that were supposedto watch them with us, but they
(31:53):
didn't, they they had a blowout,and so we dropped them off, and
me and my wife go out to watchthem, and we're just sitting on
the boat, dude.
And from the South Shore of LongIsland, you're on the you're on
the coast of Long Island, andthere's 30 fireworks shows going
on all up and down the coast,and you're just seeing the whole
skyline lit up, and then out ofnowhere, these two bolts of
(32:15):
lightning, like I'm talkingcloud to ground lightning, hit
the water like a couple of milesout from us, and it was it was
it lit the sky up more than thefireworks.
That's when Nicole, we gotta getoff the water right now, like
yeah, and then we get off thewater, and I'm talking 80 mile
(32:37):
an hour winds come blowingthrough, dude.
Like people's trees got knockeddown, and it was it was
literally a 10-minute stormwhere these winds came through,
people's trees went down.
Uh, my in-laws, there was a guyhad a bonfire on the beach, and
they live on uh they live, theyhave like dunes by their house.
They're on they're up on likethis dunes, and the wind came in
(33:01):
and blew the fire onto thedunes.
The dunes, because it was so dryand hot in the days leading up,
the dunes lit up totallyengulfed in flames.
They would have lost the entiredune if it wasn't for the rain
that followed the wind.
Like the the it was all over thenews.
The the whole like half the duneburned up, and then all of a
(33:22):
sudden it started raining and itput it out, thank God.
But everything was just likebone dry because we had this
heat wave that came throughbefore that.
It was we I had Bobby and mysister out the week before.
We had we had a week-long heatwave where it was a hundred
degrees out, man.
And Bob Bobby came out.
Uh, we took Bobby and Chrissyout right after they got
(33:43):
engaged, and we're out on thewater on the sound on the north
shore of Long Island, and it'snice and cool because you're on
the sound and the and the coolbreeze from the sound.
We took the water Connecticut.
As soon as we pulled in themarina in Connecticut, it felt
like we were driving into anoven.
SPEAKER_06 (34:01):
Like this heat just hit us.
SPEAKER_04 (34:02):
We were like, oh my gosh, man, how are we going to
handle this?
We got off the boat, we atesomething, we were literally all
fanning our faces like this.
We were just like, it was justdreadfully hot.
We couldn't even stay there.
We ate something real quick andjust got back out on the water
because it was so freaking hotin Connecticut.
But yeah.
Um, so we have a few topics wecan cover though.
(34:24):
Um, there uh on the other side,I figured we could do it.
I wanted to do that that blackwoman who shot the veteran in
the parking lot.
I wanted to get your take on it.
SPEAKER_05 (34:37):
Why?
I don't I don't think there'senough info to have a good take
on it.
SPEAKER_04 (34:44):
Or should we do the trad the trad wife thing real
quick?
So go up either one, whateveryou want to do.
Yeah, do the trad wife one here.
Let's do the trad wife one.
I want to do the trad wife onebecause this one's an
interesting one.
SPEAKER_05 (35:06):
It looks like a video of an annoying woman.
SPEAKER_04 (35:08):
It is an annoying woman.
Of course it is.
Of course it's an annoyingwoman.
Let's play this one.
SPEAKER_08 (35:16):
Where are they hiding the 47-year-old trad
wives?
That's what I want to know.
That's what I think about everytime I see one of these videos
from like a 19 or 20-year-old umtalking about having no job and
no degree, and she loves it andit's amazing.
Where are the trad wives thatare my age, that are 47, that
are 50?
Why are they not out thereespousing um how amazing?
SPEAKER_05 (35:35):
Doesn't she realize most 50-year-old women aren't on
Instagram?
Like Jesus.
SPEAKER_04 (35:40):
That's exactly what it is.
Like I I played this with mywife before.
I'm like, I'm like, she wants toknow where all the 47-year-old
trad wives are.
She goes, We're not on theinternet.
That's like oh my gosh.
So the ones that are 20 aredoing a LARP, right?
Yeah.
So there it's that's what itreally comes down to.
So, all right, wait.
(36:00):
I I'm gonna I I sent one to ourum uh because I want to send you
this.
Like, there's the there's thethe 47-year-old tradwise are are
watching us, they're not online.
So I'm gonna send this one tothe telegram because it's it was
in our group chat, but um, Iwant to read this article, pull
this article up.
(36:20):
This is totally insane.
I just sent it to Telegram.
Yeah, I got it.
So this the like the young girltrad wife LARP is a thing,
right?
And it's these young girls whoget on the internet and they're
baking cakes and they're doingall this stuff, and it's like
(36:41):
it's a LARP, they're not reallytrad wives, like they're on the
internet and they're they'ree-girls, right?
This that's a very differentthing than a genuine trad wife,
right?
A legitimate trad wife is justat home, like caring for her
home.
So, um, this this article isinfuriating.
So divorce, destitute, and leftfor dead, the dark side of trad
(37:02):
wife life after 35.
Divorce was analogous to a curseword for uh Anit Anitza
Templeton's hyper-traditionalfaith-centered home, with her
husband hailed king of thecastle, almost rivaling the holy
trinity between God the Fatherand the Son and the Holy Spirit.
Templeton, who married at age26, eagerly abandoned her dreams
(37:23):
of pursuing a career in art toinstead satisfy her man's every
command.
I mean, that's my wife.
She abandoned her career in art.
First off, there's no such thingof a career in art.
Exactly.
From growing the family'sproduce in her private garden,
like this woman is describing aan idyllic, beautiful life.
Growing growing the family'sproduce in her private garden to
(37:44):
gussing up in a sexy outfit andcosmetics before he came home
from work.
The brunette's routine becamethat of an extreme 1950s
homemaker, obeying baking, andbaby making.
First off, I don't believe aword of this.
This woman did not do any ofthese things.
This woman is a hag.
No, so I don't believe any ofthat.
Um, so it's a regime that mosttraditional or trad wives follow
(38:07):
based on religious principles.
Unlike housewives, women whoraise kids and manage their
households as equals to theirworking spouses.
Like, come on.
Women who raise kids and managetheir households as equals to
their working spouses.
Trad wives often becomesubservient subordinates whose
sole purpose is to please theirpartner.
This is not, I don't know, maybethis exists.
(38:32):
Like the the the the a tradwife's duties are to her home.
It's like it's just so dumb.
It's such a caricature and acliche.
Um, but by 36, Templeton foundherself feeling like a prisoner
in her marriage, whichultimately ended in the once
taboo D-word.
And the mother of four sharedthat her biggest challenge
(38:53):
post-divorce was navigating lifewithout a solid education,
professional resume, orreal-world experience.
The New Jersey native is justone in the one in the rising
army of former trad wives who,after saying I do to a life of
submissive servitude, like ohman, no, that's like like like
(39:16):
trads are keeping their wives asslaves.
SPEAKER_05 (39:18):
It's so what's that what's that stupid show?
SPEAKER_04 (39:20):
Um oh with the uh Gideon or something, right?
The the uh the the with the redyeah yeah yeah the what is it
the the housemaid thinghandmaid's tale yeah that show
one-shotted women so bad, so badno I don't know, I don't know if
(39:45):
it gets into it, but I notice sofar they haven't told us
anything about this divorce asto and not listen to me.
They do not they can't list asingle thing the husband did
wrong.
Like the husband's out workingall day, the wife has a garden
and she looks pretty for himwhen he comes home.
My goodness, the horror.
How could she live a life ofsubservience to her husband like
(40:07):
this?
It's like, dude, my wife, uh, Icome home and my wife, like
yesterday I came home and mywife decided she was going to
paint all the doors in my housewhile I was at work yesterday.
And I come home, my wife iscovered in paint.
And I'm like, what are youdoing?
She's like, I decided to painteverything today.
And like that, like my wife doeswhat she wants to do.
(40:29):
It's not like she's I I somedays I come home and she's in
the backyard in the garden andshe's gardening and doing her
thing in the backyard.
She's not sitting around as mysleep, like especially now at
this point in life.
Like, she's just literally doeswhat she wants to do, and she
and every woman I know that goesto work is miserable at work,
like they're not nobody wants towork.
(40:50):
I don't want to work.
Why would anyone work?
I would give anything to nothave to work.
It's so insane that people thinkthat they want to work.
Guess what, guys?
Careers aren't fulfilling.
Stop telling people they'refulfilling.
That's they're not fulfilling.
That's really what it is, right?
So people think you're going tobe fulfilled in a career, and
you're definitely not.
SPEAKER_05 (41:11):
I like my job you think you want them to be
fulfilling because your normallife isn't fulfilling.
That's what you're gettingwrong.
SPEAKER_04 (41:17):
Yeah.
SPEAKER_05 (41:18):
Your wife outside of work is supposed to be
fulfilling, right?
SPEAKER_04 (41:21):
So, like, I am not, I don't dude.
I go to work, it's just a way toprovide for my family.
Like, it's just all it is, it'sjust the thing that brings the
paycheck in to pay the bills, todo the thing I actually care
about, which is being a husbandand father.
Like, that's my purpose.
My purpose is being a husbandand father.
SPEAKER_05 (41:37):
I don't give a about they're the opposite of
affiliate, yeah.
SPEAKER_04 (41:41):
Absolutely, man.
Like, whoever's feeding anyonethis nonsense that, like, you're
gonna be fulfilled from yourcareer.
Like, men aren't fulfilled intheir career, it's so dumb.
People who say they be bored athome are boring people.
Yeah, my wife's never bored,never ever, ever bored.
Ever.
Because I I watched the clip ofum uh LeBron James recently,
(42:04):
where he was like, It's like, Idon't know, I could I couldn't
have my wife just sitting.
I I could never marry like astay-at-home girl who like is
just sitting around on the couchall day while I'm out working.
And first off, the man doesn'tknow what working is.
But but the point is, like, I'venever I'm not kidding.
(42:24):
I'm married 21 years tomorrow.
I have never once come home fromwork and my wife is sitting on
the couch.
Never once.
Like, my wife doesn't sit on thecouch, my wife is always doing
stuff, she's constantly doingstuff.
I've never seen her not busy.
She's got a ton of stuff to doat our house.
She's constantly doing myfreaking my my I can't tell you
(42:45):
how often the furniture ischanged around in my house.
And then I'll come home and umit's I'm numb to it now because
it happens so often.
And I'll come home and I won'tnotice that the whole room is
rearranged.
And she thinks I'm like, I don'tshe, I she's just like, How do
you not notice that I change?
I'm like, because you change ittwice a week.
(43:05):
I'm like, I don't know.
You had it like this last week.
It's like, how often can youchange the furniture around?
And you think I'm still gonnanotice?
It's not something that crazy.
I don't know.
She's moved her computer deskfrom the dining room to the
living room to the bedroom 87times in this year alone.
SPEAKER_05 (43:22):
Meanwhile, Ant's changed the studio once on this
show in four years, and it wasthe most controversial thing
he's ever done.
SPEAKER_04 (43:28):
It really was.
I upended my entire house to putthis studio together.
Um, all right, so and Templetonshared that her biggest
challenge post-divorce wasnavigating life without a solid
education, professional resume,or real world experiences.
The New Jersey native is justoh, we went through all this
already.
Um so there aren't a lot of tradwives over 35 or 40 because the
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the reason I put this articleafter is because this is a
response to that woman askingwhere all the 47 year old trad
wives are.
There aren't a lot of trad wivesover 35 or 40 because.
They've either got divorced andmoved away from the lifestyle
after learning how toxic it canbe.
Templeton, now 43, a woman, awomen's advocate, currently
based in Denver.
So this woman was a conservativetrad wife, and now she's a
(44:14):
women's advocate.
Like this woman was always afreaking women's advocate.
Yeah.
Get out of here.
Online discourse around the uharound the former trad wives
erupted recently after JessicaValenti, a New York City
feminist speaker and author,asked a seemingly lighthearted
question on social media.
That's a video we just watched.
Uh, at a certain age, I got tothe point in in the marriage
(44:37):
where I was like, Oh Mg, is thisreally what I want to do with my
life?
What comes after this?
So, like first off, there's noit's not like her husband abused
her, it's not like her husbandcheated.
At a certain point, she got toher, she she's got her she got
her children and her husband.
SPEAKER_05 (44:54):
At a certain point, she went does does she have
children?
Because you'd be imagined beingone of her children, and he
hearing her say that.
Is this really what I do withme?
Like, what comes after this?
SPEAKER_04 (45:04):
These women, I'm telling you, they're on social
media, they get a DM from an oldguy on Facebook or something
like that.
Like, so these women alwaysthink the grass is greener
somewhere else, so they throw anuke into their own home and rip
their family apart because theythink they're gonna find
something better.
She's a 43-year-old hag withnobody going around as a women's
(45:28):
advocate.
Because what else is she goingto do?
And then she's gonna be 50 oneday.
Her children aren't gonna talkto her because she torpedoed
their life, yeah, and she'sgonna be alone at 55, 60.
It's just it's crazy what someof these women do.
SPEAKER_05 (45:42):
It's it's on it's so much of it, is because these
women are told that they'reworth way more than they're
worth, you know what I mean?
SPEAKER_04 (45:52):
Like that they deserve everything that and and
they think they're going to goonto the dating market at 40
with three kids, and guys aregonna be dying to to hang out
with them.
And what what they really like,especially in the modern dating
world, guys in their 40s are notlooking to like it's not like it
(46:13):
used to be like if a guy getsdivorced, he wants to get
remarried.
Like, these guys are justrunning through these women,
like and so they're gettingtreated like garbage.
They're just getting you see thefreaking guy up in Maine getting
accused of in a situation shipand like 40 years old.
It's like these women have noidea what they're setting
themselves up for, man.
(46:34):
Um, uh wait, I just wanted toread this one more paragraph.
You can leave it that.
I'll just read it.
Of the trad wives who do stay intheir marriages, she believes
they have become dead inside,and that's why they're not
promoting a lifestyle like theyoung, popular trad wives
online.
Uh, older wives are keepingtheir heads down, getting their
teeth and gritting their teethand waiting to die because
that's all that's left for them.
(46:55):
The projection there isastounding, dude.
Let me just tell you something.
Uh, I can only speak from myfirsthand experience.
Like me and my wife are gettingolder now.
We're in our mid-40s.
Like, it's exciting to like dothings together.
Like, I don't know.
I get I we because I had um Iwas talking to a couple of guys
(47:18):
at work the other day, and likesome of these guys are just
miserable in their marriages.
And I'm like, I don't maybe I Idon't maybe I'm just a maybe I
really am like the one personwho actually enjoys their spot.
Like, I like my wife, like we goand do things together, we have
fun together.
I'm excited to go away with herthis week, and we're gonna have
fun.
I'm not even trying to be wifeguy, like it's just I enjoy her,
(47:40):
she's fun.
I don't hate her guts.
When I hear guys talk abouttheir wives, like they hate
their wives.
I'm just like, how did you getyourself into this mess?
Like, how how do guys get into asituation where they don't even
know the person they're married?
Like, people get married, andthen they I think people just
let their relationships gettotally like they they just let
(48:01):
their relationship die, man.
SPEAKER_05 (48:03):
I don't know.
I don't I don't get it, like youknow, at some level, like I
understand having separatehobbies, but the couples that
have separate hobbies that takethem like physically apart for
like whole weekends at a timeseem uh weird to me.
Like's tweet today.
SPEAKER_04 (48:24):
Who Matt Rifes had something really funny?
I don't know how he didn't wantthis right.
He's a comedian.
He was talking about guys thatplay golf.
It was actually really funny.
I gotta find it.
Hang on.
Uh he said, hang on, dudes wholove golf, just get the divorce
already.
Like it was just that simple.
(48:44):
Like guys who are off everyweekend at the local golf course
and their wife doing somethingtotally different.
It really is nuts.
It's like just get the divorcealready.
You guys don't like each other,you're just looking for an
excuse to get away from her.
SPEAKER_05 (48:57):
I I really, yeah.
I can't like yeah, there'sthings I like to do that that
hope doesn't like to do, andvice versa.
SPEAKER_04 (49:05):
Yeah, like you go to the gun range and you're
shooting, right?
SPEAKER_05 (49:08):
But even then, I'd have more fun at the gun range
with her there.
Yeah, like there's almostnothing in my life that isn't
better with her and my kidsaround, you know what I mean?
SPEAKER_04 (49:17):
Like for me, it's for me, it like it in the summer
it's the boat, in the winterit's snowboarding, things like
that.
Like, my wife comes with me onall that stuff.
I don't have like a separatehobby from her, you know.
It's like I don't know, I don'tI don't gamble, I don't do I
don't I don't know.
I I look forward to my weekendsto go and spend with my wife and
kids, and we just go and dostuff together, and it's like
(49:38):
the highlight of my life.
I'd rather be doing that thananything else.
Yep.
Um, yeah, you want to knowsomething?
She's she's she's on the otherside of that wall, and she
listens a lot of times, Hope,but not even that.
Like, I'm not saying there'slike you shouldn't have like Rob
just said, like, you can havesome things you do in the reach,
but like it, I think it'simportant to just have I was I
(50:01):
was I was thinking about it.
Like, if I hit Lotto, like Ithink I would still do this
show.
Like, I like if if the if I hitLotto and I did not need the
money whatsoever at all, I thinkI would still do this show with
you.
I enjoy doing it.
I might not do every two twoepisodes a week.
Like, I might say, all right,we'll cut it down to one episode
a week, you know what I mean?
(50:22):
But I don't I don't think Iwould stop doing it.
Like, I enjoy coming on andtalking with my friend and
getting a chance to talk.
I don't gamble except that timewhen I gambled and they gave me
16,000 extra.
Freaking Don.
I hate Don.
He remembered first of all, it'sreally good to see Dodd in the
chat again.
It's really good to see him inthe chat.
He hasn't been in a while.
(50:43):
Um, I don't well, I don'tgamble, but I talk, I'm talking
Bobby.
Uh Rob, we're gonna have to talkabout this.
Um, the wedding.
Like, are we are you are you andHope gonna come to the wedding,
or do you want to just come tothe bachelor party?
We gotta figure this out.
We'll talk offline, but um, I'mtrying to talk Bobby into doing
Atlantic Party.
SPEAKER_05 (51:01):
Because I'd have to know like dates and stuff.
SPEAKER_04 (51:03):
Yeah, of course, of course.
We'll figure all that out.
Um, we're trying to figure out Iwant him to do Atlantic City for
the bachelor party, just becauseit's in between me and him.
Like he's in Virginia and I'm inNew York.
I figured Jersey, you know, uhAtlantic City is a good meetup
in the middle.
So, and plus I think all mybrothers are gonna want to go to
something like that.
It's like we'll go, we'll grabdinner together, we'll lose all
(51:24):
our money at the blackjacktable, and then we'll just go
hang at the bar together.
Do something like that.
SPEAKER_05 (51:30):
Um it's too bad your uncle didn't have a big house in
Pennsylvania.
SPEAKER_04 (51:34):
Yeah, that would have been fun to do.
All right, so wait, I I didn't Iblur brushed over this.
I know you put it up.
I travel a ton for business andfor reserves, gets old when
married with kids.
I can't I don't know how armyfamilies do it.
I really don't.
I don't know how um oh Molly,you play golf?
That's probably interesting.
Yeah, Paul goes to the the theshooting range without on his
(51:58):
own, but he golfs with her.
Yeah, I don't know.
SPEAKER_05 (52:02):
You gotta I I don't golf has no draw for me at all.
SPEAKER_04 (52:09):
I don't I don't yeah, I don't know.
No, I've played golf twice.
I suck so bad at it, but it isfun.
You get a couple beers and youyou just like we we were like
crashing into each other withthe golf carts and stuff.
We made a fun day out of it, butall right, so if I won the
lottery, I would still watchthis show.
We appreciate you guys.
(52:30):
Yeah, and by the way, like ourshow is dying right now.
So if you guys want a superchat, we'd appreciate it.
SPEAKER_05 (52:36):
Or or more we'd rather you go subscribe on
locals.
Yeah, we'd way rather you joinlocals.
Also, it might be dying becausewe forgot to do you know things
like our ad sponsors.
SPEAKER_04 (52:46):
I I've done them every time.
Not today we haven't, not todaywe didn't, but um, I'm sure I'm
as we're as we're talking, I'mtrying to think of a good
knickknack success story.
Uh um do you have do you haveany good knickknack success?
I was all right, so the the theBobby Bobby's best man.
(53:12):
He's like uh well guy on thephone, he's like, uh, you want
to be my best man?
I'm like, no, you have abrother.
SPEAKER_05 (53:17):
Like yeah, like you have a brother.
Like your brother's gonna beyour best man.
Was my brother my best man?
No, sorry, Ryan.
Um, but I I admit that I waswrong there.
I'm sorry, Ryan.
SPEAKER_04 (53:33):
So I'm like, no, you have a brother.
I'm like, I'm not giving aspeech at your wedding.
He's like, Yeah, that's why mybrother doesn't want to do it.
But then I was thinking aboutit.
I'm like, all right, what if Idid do the speech at the
wedding?
SPEAKER_05 (53:45):
Oh, whoa, we could turn it into an avoiding Babylon
talk.
SPEAKER_04 (53:48):
And a knick-knack ad.
I can make the whole thing aknick-knack ad.
It might actually work out good.
Uh yeah, it's like I did thestudio over and now the show's
end.
No, I think it I think the SSPXwas such a touchy subject that
six months people will cooldown.
(54:09):
That's what I think too.
But like when I tell you we losta hundred local subscribers in
the past week, like people justunsubscribe from which never
happens.
Like, we'll we'll lose five orsix and then we'll get ten.
People just unsubscribe fromlocals in the past week.
And I think it's because of theSSPX thing, which sucks because
I don't care that much about it.
SPEAKER_05 (54:29):
Yeah, do a normal speech and then halfway do
sponsorship ad reads.
SPEAKER_04 (54:34):
I I think I could I think I could put a good I think
I could put a good uh oh we missyou, Mimi.
Thank you so much.
Appreciate you.
Um we will all walk with youinto obscurity.
We'll keep doing it, guys, aslong as some people watching, we
don't care.
SPEAKER_05 (54:52):
No, Don.
We got your credit, we got yourdebit card number.
You're subscribed forever.
SPEAKER_04 (54:57):
You won't I won't let you live at that.
You have to make eye contactwith me on Sundays.
There's no chance.
That's the other thing.
Sunday, like I'm going toGreenport this weekend.
I'm playing Novus Ordo Roulettethis weekend.
Because I don't think there'sgonna unless Patrick just texted
me.
He's working in Greenport.
Uh, so maybe he knows a place togo to mass out there.
He said, I work in Greenport, Iwork in Greenport, I'm there
(55:19):
tomorrow.
So maybe, maybe uh we'll see himwhile I'm out there.
But Patrick, if you knowsomewhere to go to Mass out
there, let me know because it'sgonna be a rough one this
weekend, I have a feeling.
Um people on sub because of theSSPX thing.
I mean, I go to SSPX chapel, andI didn't think you said anything
other than what you've alwayssaid.
Yeah, I I I didn't think soeither, but people don't want
(55:40):
like uh uh just like a measuredresponse on things.
They want you to come downhardcore on their side.
So I mean I don't look atanybody that goes to the SSPX
any differently than I did twoweeks ago.
I mean, they've been telling methe SSPX is in schism since 2005
when I started paying attentionto this stuff, so I don't see
how it's any different now thanit was then.
(56:01):
Konomi, Konomi's in the chat.
Konomi goes to the society.
You think I'd think look atKonomi any differently?
Love Konomi.
Come to Portland, Oregon.
I'll take you to a great TLM.
I would I want to go to the WestCoast very badly.
But I pray for you out inPortland, though.
SPEAKER_05 (56:18):
I want to go to like Montana.
I don't know if I need to gofurther west than that.
SPEAKER_04 (56:25):
I want to no, I want to go see the national parks in
Washington State, um Californianational parks.
There's some beautiful nationalparks out west.
SPEAKER_05 (56:36):
Yeah, but I can't carry a gun.
SPEAKER_04 (56:40):
That's true.
Um yeah, uh, well, I I spokewith we have a Father Modsley
update for locals.
SPEAKER_05 (56:47):
Do we?
SPEAKER_04 (56:48):
Yeah.
Yeah.
Well, you didn't watch the lastlocals episode, but we did get
into uh some of the stuff withhim on the last locals episode.
Um yeah, Rob doesn't even knowthat me and him have been named
as Russian assets, also.
SPEAKER_05 (57:05):
I didn't, not until the green right before the show.
SPEAKER_04 (57:07):
I told him right before the show.
I said, Oh, in case you don'tknow, we uh we have been named
as Russian assets.
Um yeah, I do I do have a followup.
SPEAKER_05 (57:18):
Do Russian assets get money?
SPEAKER_04 (57:20):
No, apparently uh we just um yeah, I I the I have
Father Mosley scheduled for whenhis next book comes out.
That's when we're gonna get himback on.
But um I did.
SPEAKER_05 (57:37):
I did study Russian.
You're right, Don.
SPEAKER_04 (57:41):
Do you have a Russian connect that I'm unaware
of?
Are you taking are you takingmoney from the Kremlin and not
cutting me in on it?
SPEAKER_05 (57:49):
Have you seen the exchange rate?
There's not much to cut you inon.
SPEAKER_04 (57:54):
Um, I did not see the Father uh Gregory Pine with
Wagner episode.
I saw people clipping it andragging him for saying some of
the similar things that we say,just like the Novus Ordo is kind
of a dumpster fire, and peoplewere calling it like Stockholm
syndrome and stuff, but I thinkit's just recognizing reality.
(58:16):
Yeah, you guys break my shopsfor buying a boat.
Rob's out here buying side bysides.
SPEAKER_05 (58:20):
First off, wait, where'd it go?
Buying is kind of a stretch,it's financed.
SPEAKER_04 (58:25):
Like yeah, well, my boat was my boat was my boat.
My boat was basically a carpayment, you know.
I mean, it's paid off now, butit was basically a car car
payment when I bought it.
SPEAKER_05 (58:36):
Well, luckily the side-by-side is less than the
car payment.
SPEAKER_04 (58:40):
Uh, my my boat was a hundred dollars less than my car
payment was when I bought theboat.
It was a hundred dollars lessthan the car payment was until
the motor blew and I had todump.
Now the car's paid off, and theboat's paid off, and I'm
guaranteeing my car engine goessoon, man.
(59:02):
It's just the way it happens.
Yeah.
Um, what did what did uh Oceansay about Kanomi?
You always looked at medifferently.
Yes, you always looked at medifferently first day in Italy,
and then Ocean says, it'sbecause you're black.
No.
(59:23):
Well, technically, yes, becauseI thought Kenomi was like an
African migrant in Italy when Ifirst met him.
So like I literally did becausethere was African migrants
coming up to me.
Oh yeah.
Did I tell the story on here?
No.
When we get to Rome, first off,everybody gets to Rome, and
we're there uh a day beforeKonomi gets there.
(59:46):
So like I think the wholegroup's there, and I don't know,
there's more people coming.
And then so Konomi got there aday late because his flight got
delayed.
Now, the next day we're in inthe Vatican, basically, like
we're in Vatican City, and whenyou're in Vatican City, there
are African migrants everywheretrying to sell you phone
(01:00:07):
chargers, trying to sell you umlike uh little little statues of
the Vatican.
SPEAKER_05 (01:00:13):
Oh, that that sounds like the Mall of America.
SPEAKER_04 (01:00:15):
Yeah, it's like you know, like you like when they're
in France, they're selling youlittle Eiffel Towers and stuff.
So Konomi comes up to me and hehands me like one of these
trinkets, and I just look athim, I go, bro, I'm not buying
your stupid trinkets.
And he goes, Anthony, it's me,Konomi.
I'm here for you, and I'm like,Oh, I felt so bad.
(01:00:41):
Oh, I felt terrible.
Oh me is uh a dear friend now,and he has a heart of gold.
He's like he's one of thoseguys, even my wife says it like
when you're around Konomi, youjust like you like you feel like
you're around somebody who'sjust holy, you know.
He he kind of just like puts allhe you you feel like you're
you're you're hanging with Jesuswhen you're with Konomi.
He's a beautiful person.
(01:01:03):
But yes, that was kind of funnywhen that happened.
Uh at least that's hilarious.
Um, what is this?
Justice for Kenomi.
Uh all right, so we're at anhour.
We're gonna go over to locals.
We'll uh I'll tell the fullstory of what happened on the
boat this weekend.
(01:01:24):
Um, let's do our Knickknackhead.
So uh I'm gonna think of a I'mgonna get a good idea for uh
rarem on Tuesday.
But um go to knick knack.com,use code AB25% for 25% off your
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(01:01:45):
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I am we get all my cousins hotelon this weekend.
(01:02:05):
Oh, that's what happened.
So he wanted to shake my hand,but the bracelet one guy gave
him was in this so basicallyKonomi came up, and one of the
migrants gave him a thing, andthen Konomi comes over to shake
my hand, and I thought he wastrying to hand me the thing that
got so I thought he was sellingsomething, and I'm like, I don't
want this thing.
What are you doing?
(01:02:26):
It was it was a very funny thingwhen it happened.
Oh, I felt bad.
SPEAKER_05 (01:02:31):
So um, okay, so what's funny is you could go to
like Norway and they would thinkyou're an African migr migrant
trying to sell them a toy drink.
SPEAKER_04 (01:02:39):
You see that you see Mamdani didn't put little Italy
as uh as one of the immigrant uhoutcrops and or outposts in in
New York.
Everybody's saying that meansthe Italians are finally making
it as whites.
Um go to blackmonkrosary.com,get 10% off an amazing black
monk rosary by going toblackmonkrosary.com using code
(01:02:59):
AvoidingBabylon at checkout.
Uh we love black monk rosaries.
Is there anything coming up thatwould make a good gift for um
what's coming up?
We have our ladies' feast day inAugust.
SPEAKER_05 (01:03:14):
In August, yeah.
SPEAKER_04 (01:03:15):
Yeah, we have in August we have our Lady's Feast
Day.
I don't know.
It like honestly, if you know aconvert, grab one for a convert
that's just coming in.
Uh, if you know somebody who'sconsidering the faith, grab one
and get one for them.
If you have children, all yourchildren should have black monk
rosaries, guys.
SPEAKER_05 (01:03:32):
If you know a uh if you know a biz LARPE, buy one
for them.
Yes, make that's how we Latinizethem, guys.
That's how we make them realCatholics.
SPEAKER_04 (01:03:40):
Um, yeah, Bobby's having a Latin uh wedding, by
the way.
Wait, confirmed?
Not confirmed, but we'll make ithappen.
SPEAKER_05 (01:03:51):
Okay.
SPEAKER_04 (01:03:51):
I yeah, he's getting it's gonna be a Latin wedding.
So uh all right, guys, we'regonna head over to locals.
If you're not a subscriber tolocals, I forgot to put the link
in the chat last time, Rob.
Uh, if you can, just throw thelink.
Link up.
Uh, and we will see you on theother side, kids.
SPEAKER_05 (01:04:10):
Uh, do we have a good one?
SPEAKER_04 (01:04:13):
You play the guns and rosaries outro because I did
it last time.
I heard that.
That was I played the guns androsaries outro at the end of the
last locals episode.
I couldn't hit end fast enough.
Like I like I ended the show,and that that song comes on, and
I'm like, Guns and Rosaries, areyou kidding me?
And I just kept trying to endit.
Adrian got a kick out of it.
(01:04:34):
He thought it was.
SPEAKER_05 (01:04:35):
Oh, I bet he did.
SPEAKER_04 (01:04:36):
Yeah, he loved it.
SPEAKER_05 (01:04:37):
Um, yeah.
SPEAKER_04 (01:04:38):
You guys, if you're not local subscribers, you're
missing out, man.
SPEAKER_05 (01:04:50):
Well, since we watched that uh gay blessings,
here we go.
SPEAKER_09 (01:04:54):
I snap my fingers.
You forget that you're ever gay.
SPEAKER_03 (01:04:59):
I was never gay.
Exactly.
Wait, no, stop.
No, stop.
You can't.
I was never gay.
Okay.
No, I was never gay.
Sure.
You can't just state somethingand snap your fingers and then
be like, I was never gay.
SPEAKER_09 (01:05:13):
You say so.
Holy crap.
SPEAKER_04 (00:52):
I am so tired of the SSPX and SETA conversation, man.
I'm just so done with it.
I'm spent.
Oh my gosh.
I was telling Rob in the greenroom, it's like now I have
burnout on it, but it was coolto have like a topic to talk
about for a couple of episodesbecause it's it's been it's just
(01:14):
been like a content droughtgoing on for a while.
So it was like nice to have somestuff going on, but we lost a
lot of local subs.
I think all our SSPX uh fans aremad at us for not taking a
strong stance on this thing.
It's uh it's just an all-aroundcrap situation.
Yeah, it's just an all-aroundcrap situation.
(01:37):
Uh no wonder this show runs atfinancial loss.
Yeah.
Um, I'm just glad we I got tosmash some grass into JP3.
That's that's Sethi Picante's uhpuppet change I asked GPT.
SPEAKER_05 (01:52):
I asked Taffy if he could uh change it to where I
blow away the stupid puppet withthe gun.
And um that'll get yeah, Taffypointed that out.
SPEAKER_04 (02:02):
So so we are doing all right, so we're doing uh
we're doing that on Tuesday.
We just so all right, so wefigured this episode we don't
really like have like a thisepisode's gonna be like home
kind of all over the place.
We're just gonna be hanging outtalking about whatever the
hell's on our mind.
But um we Rob had a funeral thisweek.
Um we had 4th of July over theweekend.
(02:25):
So the thing is to get back intothis, like this this next one
really is a heavy one, so it'snot like one that I could just
listen to the audio of theencyclical on my way home from
work and then just like jump onand riff on it.
It's some very deep stuff.
Like I so I bought this book, umThe Church Speaks to the Modern
(02:46):
World, uh, and it's um thesocial teachings of Leo the
13th, basically.
And it's just it's just a verydense topic, and I kind of want
to do how much did it make afront's funeral video?
So I didn't know you wanted topost that, Rob.
I but you sent it to us in thegroup chat.
SPEAKER_05 (03:04):
Well, more like I let's just say I didn't want a
hundred thousand people to seeit, Ant.
SPEAKER_04 (03:12):
I didn't say who was where it was from, though.
I just I think that song itbrings back such nostalgia for
me, you know.
SPEAKER_05 (03:20):
I I wish I was using my my glasses so I couldn't zoom
in.
I wish I could have zoomed in onthe priest sitting there, like
performatively singing along toit with his legs crossed.
SPEAKER_04 (03:31):
We can see his legs crossed, but I couldn't really
see his face or anything, butit's uh you have to understand,
my mom would play these NovaSoto bangers in the car when I
was growing up.
Like, I have like my mom wouldplay these songs, and especially
after they got back fromMetrigory when I was a kid.
(03:52):
My mom would really sing thesein the car.
When I die, I hope my nephewfilms the funeral for Cloud and
Trad box.
SPEAKER_05 (03:58):
I didn't get the trad box.
SPEAKER_04 (04:01):
So Rob sent us the video, and I was just like, This
song is great.
Like it's one of the uh it'slike uh what do you call that?
A um uh a guilty pleasure.
You hear it, and you're like, Ihate this song, but really you
like it.
SPEAKER_05 (04:15):
But why was it the responsorial psalm?
SPEAKER_04 (04:18):
Oh, I it was it?
I didn't know, yeah, it was.
I thought it was like acommunion hymn.
SPEAKER_05 (04:22):
No, that was that was the responsorial psalm.
SPEAKER_04 (04:26):
Um, so yeah, so Rob wanted to say, what Rob wanted
to Rob wanted this title andtopic tonight because both of us
had uh last weekend kind ofchecked out of social media and
uh just went and like lived ourlives a little bit.
And Rob took his kids uhquadding and four-wheeling and
(04:46):
stuff, and I went and I went outon the boat and watched
fireworks from the boat.
And I actually have a story thatI want to tell, but I can't tell
it on this side.
I tried to get into it withHitchborne a little bit, and I I
can't do it without you.
Like I need you to to to bounceover like Hitchbourne.
I tried to delve into it alittle bit, but it just wasn't
(05:07):
it wasn't it wasn't the right uhHe didn't know how to respond
properly to the stuff he was Idon't know it just would have
been better if you were therebecause I could have like it's
it was a very Anthony story, youknow.
So and uh I didn't know it is Ididn't want to seem like I was
gossiping with uh Hitchboard.
So I I'll do it tonight over onthe other side.
But uh how how was your uh yourtime away?
SPEAKER_05 (05:32):
Uh the weekend was good.
The weekend was very good.
The funeral ruined itafterwards, but the weekend was
good.
SPEAKER_04 (05:40):
Yeah, the funeral, man.
It's like when you're going touh a novus order funeral that
you have no say over, you'reyou're playing novus orto
roulette.
Like you don't know what you'regoing to get.
It's a total disaster.
SPEAKER_05 (05:55):
It could be, you know, you could possibly this
was the same church, same priestas my grandma's, and they told
the priest they wanted it thesame as my grandma's, the exact
same.
So I knew what we were walkinginto, right?
But uh um we had asked thepriest if he could say something
(06:23):
about communion, because at mygrandma's funeral, for those of
you who didn't hear that acouple months ago, one of my
family members who isn't theywere probably baptized Catholic,
maybe at first communion, butnothing after that.
Um, you know, for 15 years.
Uh one of them went up, well,one of them they all went up to
(06:44):
receive communion, even thoughno one's practicing.
And one of them took it in herhand and walked back to the pew
with it.
Right?
So after that debacle, where weasked the priest this time,
could you say something aboutwho can properly receive
communion?
She goes, No, I don't do that.
It causes more issues.
And then my my priest, man.
(07:05):
Yeah, well, then my aunt, so umat the my grandma's funeral, my
cousin gave a eulogy after mass.
In the sanctuary still, but atleast after mass.
My aunt was gonna give a eulogybefore mass, and so she asked
the priest, could she, you know,she said, Okay, well then I'll
I'll say something to everyonegathered about it, you know,
(07:28):
before after the eulogy.
He goes, No, I won't let you dothat.
He he literally forbid forbid itfrom being said.
SPEAKER_04 (07:39):
Like honestly, look.
SPEAKER_05 (07:42):
So what is I just the third person in line went
up, took the host, went rightback to their pew.
And didn't take and didn't andthen put it.
Well, I don't know what wouldhave happened if someone didn't
tell them to, but yeah, it's uhdude, I uh man.
SPEAKER_04 (08:00):
It's it's hard to it's hard to um argue against
the society's position.
That's all I'll say.
Like it's just you see stufflike that going on, you wonder
why these men even becamepriests, and you wonder what it
is that they even like they haveabsolutely no concern for the
faith whatsoever.
Like zero.
SPEAKER_05 (08:20):
This this man does doesn't believe the faith.
This priest does not, there's noway.
Yeah, it's just hard to so sothat like I said, my aunt was
gonna give a eulogy before mass.
He's he starts mass, forgets allabout the eulogy until after the
first reading.
(08:41):
Remembers well, I sorry, untilafter the responsorial song that
was actually on Eagle's wings.
Then he remembers about theeulogy, and instead of waiting
for the end of mass, has hergive it right then in between
the two readings.
SPEAKER_04 (08:54):
So basically, your aunt gave the homily.
Yes, essentially, essentially,essentially your aunt gave the
homily, it makes sense.
SPEAKER_05 (09:03):
Like the this is in the Archdiocese of St.
Paul Minneapolis, and theArchdiocese is actually pretty
strict on no eulogies in mass.
Yeah, like in all theirdocumentation, they make it very
clear priests are not to alloweulogies inside mass.
Well, this priest does what hewants, I guess.
SPEAKER_04 (09:19):
Yeah, I mean, we're I we're going to have to like
for me, I'm going to have toleave like instructions in my
will.
You know, there's going to beinstructions in my will of what
I want done because I don't wantany of this nonsense going on.
I mean, my family's good enoughthat you know, I don't have to
worry too much, but it's justit's just crazy.
I don't know.
(09:40):
It sucks, but like the wholepoint of what what Rob wanted
with the title was basicallylike go out and touch grass
because getting off the internetfor a couple of days, it's like
you get away from the vitriolonline and the Catholic drama,
and because I've seen on in thepast few days there's just so
(10:01):
much animosity on social mediaright now.
Like people are there, like we II try to take a measured
approach with the society thing.
Like the thing is, I I I havethe position I have, right?
And my my position is not that Idon't like I completely
understand the society, it'smore just I think we are ruled
(10:22):
by Cretans right now, but Ithink we are to be subject to
them, and I think that's likehow we're subject to them will
like make us holy.
But I may be wrong.
Like, I don't know.
I don't know.
That's just kind of the way I'mI'm um and I don't have a dog in
the fight with the society, likeI don't go to a society chapel,
(10:43):
so I'm I don't know.
I tried to give a measuredapproach to it, but people don't
want a measured approach rightnow.
They want you to either be 100%in they just want you to agree
with whatever they believe.
Yeah, so people are just stuckin echo chambers right now.
They're just stuck in echochambers.
And if you're well, I had thatlike this guy, Mark, that
follows me on X, he watches ourshow all the time, and he's
like, I tuned in for fiveminutes and had to tune out.
(11:05):
These guys are Pope spleaners.
It's like, you think I'm a Popespleener?
Are you insane?
Like, in no way would I defendany of the garbage coming out of
the Vatican, any of the garbageLeo's doing.
My position is just that okay.
So we'll you know what?
Why don't we do the Esquirevideo real quick?
Because uh like I I CatholicEsquire is my friend.
(11:29):
Like, I I watch all of the stuffhe puts out, and he put out a
video today that I was I likethe argument didn't logically
follow what he was saying.
Uh so I it's a one-minute clip.
I want to just play theone-minute clip because it the
way he's framing it is animproper framing.
(11:49):
And let's just go through hisclip and then I'll I'll keep
I'll speak my piece.
SPEAKER_02 (12:00):
All right.
In this video today, we're gonnalook at this because it's very
apparent if the SSPX was wrongfor consecrating bishops in
order to preserve the Catholicfaith, to keep tradition alive
in the face of the errors of thesecond Vatican Council and
everything that sprang from thesecond Vatican Council,
(12:22):
including the new mass, if theSSPX is wrong about that, then
logically speaking, according toall the critics of the SSPX, and
I'm talking about TaylorMarshall, Eric Sammons, um uh
Joseph Shaw, all of these guyswho claim to love tradition, who
(12:43):
claim to love the traditionalLatin mass, who claim to be
submissive and obedient to Leo,all of these guys need to accept
the logical consequence of theirposition, and that is uh the
traditionus custodis is correct.
And so if they come out andclaim that traditionos custodis
(13:05):
is wrong, and yet the SSPX iswrong at the same time, that is
a major violation of the law ofnon-contradiction and hypocrisy.
SPEAKER_04 (13:15):
Okay, so pause it.
So, all right, so the thing is Ithink Leo was wrong to not let
them consecrate the bishops,right?
Like I think Leo was Leo shouldhave let them consecrate the
bishops.
I agree with the SSPX that allof this stuff is rooted in the
Second Vatican Council and therevolution that took place
(13:37):
there.
Like, I agree with the society'sposition.
My position is not that Leo didthe right thing here.
My position is just that Leo hasthe authority to either give
them a mandate or excommunicatethem if they don't have the
mandate or whatever, right?
So it's it but it also doesn'tfollow that just because they
think Leo is wrong, that meansthe SSPX is right.
(14:00):
Like they're right in theirargument, but that doesn't mean
they're right to go about theconsecration without the papal
mandate.
Now, it it's it's just such atricky topic because I agree
with the society in substance.
Like I go back and I listen toLefebvre and I'm like, holy
crap, man, like everything thisguy's saying is correct.
(14:22):
Anybody who loves thetraditional mass, like for you
to for you to not give Lefebvrelike like without Lefebvre, we
don't have the traditionalmovement the way we do right
now.
Like it just doesn't, like weprobably would have never got
some more in pontificum withoutLefebvre, all of that stuff.
Lefebvre is like the reason thatthe traditional movement took
(14:44):
shape and and had any kind ofform, right?
And it's like to to just becausethey think Leo is wrong for not
giving them permission doesn'tmean they should just take that
authority upon themselves and doit without permission, if that
makes sense.
Like it's not I don't know.
(15:04):
I like I don't I don't like theway he's like, and of course, I
so e okay, so with traditionuscustodus, right?
He's saying if you think thesociety's wrong, then you have
to think TC is right.
It's like, no, I think TC istrash, but I also do think the
Pope has the authority topromulgate the document, TC.
Like he's the Pope.
So even though I hate thedocument, I still think the Pope
(15:25):
has the authority to put it out.
And that and just because Ithink the document is unjust and
cruel doesn't mean that we havethe right to go start having
illicit masses and do whateverwe want and disobey it.
So, like to some degree, we mayget stuck going to a novus order
or finding a Byzantine liturgyor whatever we have to do to
survive.
(15:46):
My point is that the Pope doeshave the authority.
And uh and the only otherposition you could take is that
the Pope is not the Pope.
And I don't I I don't I don'tsee how I you know I don't I
can't take that position.
And yeah, I don't think you haveto go along with TC and think TC
is uh a logical, like logicallythat TC is correct.
(16:09):
None of that.
I I think that we're ruled byCretans right now.
So play play the next the thenext video above that.
It's actually Catherine and Markfrom Catholic Unscripted uh
looking at a video out ofEngland of a gay blessing at a
novice ordo uh with a cardinalthere.
(16:31):
Which is like when I saw thisvideo, it's like you know what?
It's like I yeah.
If they could do something likethis, if they could do something
like this without consequence,like the SSPX should do whatever
the hell they want to do.
Like, I I'm almost at that pointwhen you see something like
this.
SPEAKER_01 (16:53):
Giving thanks, that the church offers blessing to
those who seek it in spirits andin truth.
We ask, oh God of love, thatyour grace come down upon Julian
and Martin as they mark the 50thanniversary of their
relationship.
SPEAKER_00 (17:13):
Say that you can't bless couples, you can bless
individuals.
You know, like isn't that isn'tthe it very clear in Fiducia
Supplicans that you can't doexactly what they're doing here?
SPEAKER_07 (17:25):
Yeah, well, so Bishop Moth, what's gonna happen
now?
That's the question, isn't it?
We could look at this all daylong, but it happened, and it
happened with a cardinal and thechurch in Westminster.
SPEAKER_04 (17:39):
I'm watching I'm watching Pope Splainers say,
Well, they're clearly doingsomething against church
teaching, and it's like fiduciusdoes not give permission to
this, so they're going againstchurch teaching.
It's like at this point, whocares what the document says?
They're clearly doing thisanyway, and there'll be
absolutely no consequenceswhatsoever.
SPEAKER_05 (18:01):
Nothing's gonna be done about it, absolutely
nothing.
SPEAKER_04 (18:04):
So the whole point of the document was to give
cover for guys to go and do thisand then just go, oh, we
misinterpreted the document.
It's this nonsense trash thatcomes out.
So now you look at the society'sposition and they go, Oh, yeah,
let's yeah, okay, we can't doit.
We're gonna like the society'slike, we're just going to be
Catholic, uh, and we needbishops, and we're just going to
(18:26):
continue on with the missionthat we've been doing since 19
whenever Lefebvre started thethe society was in the 70s.
Like, they're just going tocontinue on doing what they're
doing.
And you have to, in somerespect, just go, yeah, all
right, man.
Like, honestly, the the theinfighting I'm watching in the
Catholic world right now is soinsane because people are losing
friendships over this, and it'slike, I may have like my opinion
(18:49):
on on like, yeah, the Popeprobably has the authority,
maybe they shouldn't have donethis, but like, I don't look at
guys that go to the SSPX anydifferent.
Like, I don't think they'reschismatics and not Catholic.
I just I'm just like, uh, Idon't know.
Technically, I probably wouldside with the Pope has the
authority.
That's just where I kind of fallon that side of the argument.
But I don't, I mean, you seetrash like that, and you're just
(19:11):
like, We are living like if thisisn't the great apostasy, I
don't know what the hell thegreat apostasy is gonna look
like, man.
SPEAKER_05 (19:20):
It can always get worse, eh?
SPEAKER_04 (19:22):
It's going to get worse.
That's the thing.
It's going to get worse, it'sabsolutely going to get worse.
It's just, I just I don't know,man.
This is like that.
Is what the hell is that?
That's worse than any Anglicanservice I've ever seen.
That is horrific what we justwatched.
Yep.
It's just it's just insane.
So I don't know.
Yeah.
(19:42):
I like I'm I'm tired of talkingabout this topic.
I don't I want to drop it and Iwant to leave it alone.
And I I don't want like I don'twant to lose friends over this
crap.
Like, we all know the inside.
Like, honestly, I hate thefreaking Novus Ordo.
And part of the reason I hatethe sedes is because all they do
is shove the Novus Ordo down mythroat.
It's like I don't want to thinkabout the Novus Ordo.
I don't want to look at it.
(20:02):
I just want to live my Catholicfaith the best I can.
My SSPX priest went above andbeyond to take care of my son
from his birth to death where Ilive.
Not a single Novus Ordo priestwould do do what they did.
So uh Joe Boca went.
So Joe Boca was going to thesociety for years, and then um
he he started, he had like uh asecurity gig where he was
(20:24):
working night.
So he was I was seeing him everyweek at the uh diocesan TLM.
So he's because the diocesan'sway later in the day.
There's one at 11 30 and there'sone at 12 30.
So I was seeing him at thediocesan Latin mass for like the
past year because it's justeasier for him to go.
He's staying up late at nightworking security, and then he
(20:44):
goes to that.
So he hasn't been to the chapel,to the society chapital in about
a year.
And he went after theconsecrations and he said, Um,
father, like chased him, chasedhim down.
He's like, Joe, where have youbeen?
You know, and he and he was justlike, you know, he's just very
concerned for his soul and veryconcerned for him.
So it's like, yeah, like you'retalking about priests who have
(21:06):
genuine care for souls.
You're talking about priests whohave genuine care for the
Catholic faith.
And to put that up against thegarbage we just watched, I don't
know.
Like, I don't honestly, I don'tgood for good for the I'm glad
they did what they did,whatever.
Go at it, guys.
SPEAKER_05 (21:20):
The gays or the SSBX?
SPEAKER_04 (21:25):
The gays are gonna end up in hell.
That's all I know.
SPEAKER_05 (21:28):
But I can't I can't not according to the church,
yeah.
No, according to the church, theSSBX are gonna end up in hell.
SPEAKER_04 (21:39):
Uh it is, dude.
It is just such a crap showright now.
SPEAKER_05 (21:43):
But remember, the Orthodox can give you
confession, but uh SSBX can't.
SPEAKER_04 (21:48):
Yeah.
Yeah, it's like, and then umwe'll we'll cover a few things
before we head over to locals.
We're gonna probably do a longerlocal show tonight.
We'll do a short YouTube showtonight.
Um What else did I put in here?
I have I threw some uh I threwthat that that I love how we
talked about the topic for 30seconds.
Yeah, because I don't reallywant to what the actual show
(22:11):
topic?
Yeah, the show topic.
All right, so we can do that.
Um well I can't talk about lastweekend because we're gonna do
that on locals, but uhtomorrow's my 21st wedding
anniversary, so I have off ofwork tomorrow.
And I'm leaving my house at 8a.m.
And I'm leaving.
I can you pull up a map of LongIsland?
(22:31):
Maybe I should do it and shareit because then I could use my
my arrow pointer.
Um so I'm heading to um I'm I'mheading um me and my wife are
leaving in the morning to go toum Greenport.
Let me see, Matt Long Island.
(22:52):
Let me see if I can pull thisup.
SPEAKER_03 (22:59):
Let me see if I can share a screen here.
Share a screen.
SPEAKER_05 (23:08):
There we go.
I can do this.
I got this, guys.
This is this is big guys.
What kind of map is this?
SPEAKER_04 (23:17):
I don't know.
I'm just pulling something up soyou can see.
SPEAKER_05 (23:19):
This is terrible.
SPEAKER_04 (23:20):
Oh, you can't even see my pointer on it.
There's no point in doing this.
You got a better map.
Pull up a map of Long Island.
I thought I could, I thought youwould see my uh all right.
So you're gonna zoom in abouthalfway on the island on the
south shore, and you're gonnasee Patchog.
Uh it's gonna be uh further uhuh east.
(23:43):
So all right, so now you seeLong Island, right?
You see the bottom of LongIsland, and then you see that
barrier beach, right?
And you see that body of waterin the middle, right?
So you all right, so thatbarrier beach, that's fire
island.
Uh and you have the south shore.
So that that barrier beach, thatyou have that's the barrier
beach right there.
The ocean's on the side whereyour arrow pointer is.
SPEAKER_05 (24:04):
Oh, Cherry Grove, that's the real game.
SPEAKER_04 (24:06):
Right there, exactly.
Okay, so where your arrow is isthe um Atlantic, okay?
Yeah, yeah.
Uh on the inside, on the otherside of the barrier beach,
that's the great south bay.
So right about where you are isum it's probably a little
further east, is is Patchog.
So go right there, Patchog Bay.
(24:27):
So I'm gonna go out there andI'm gonna go in the Great South
Bay and I'm gonna head all theway east.
Um, so go east, go east,further, further.
Now you see that little crackwhere it leads out to the the
ocean right there?
Right there.
That's Rich's inlet.
So I'm gonna go from Patchog outto Merch's Inlet.
I go out onto the ocean, andthen I go further east on the
(24:50):
ocean.
Because if I stay in the GreatSouth Bay, I have to go five
miles an hour the whole way.
Keep going all yeah.
So go, I'm on the oceantomorrow.
Keep going, keep going, keepgoing, keep going.
Right there is that's theShinnecock inlet.
Okay, so I come in theShinnecock inlet there, then go
north, and then you see thatchannel right there that goes
(25:11):
into that next body of water,those are the locks right there,
okay?
I have to go through those locksand then into the Baconic, which
is the in between the two forks,and then I gotta go all the way
east, and I gotta go basicallyalmost to Montauk.
And you'll see Greenport on thenorth side of the south side of
the North Fork is Greenport, allthe way out.
All right, and that's where I'mgonna head.
(25:33):
It's a it's gonna be like athree-hour journey with a long
ride on the ocean tomorrow.
So we're getting up about 8 a.m.
to go because it we're gettingthunderstorms and bad weather in
the afternoon tomorrow.
So I'm getting up early, it's myanniversary, 21 years, and we're
(25:53):
gonna take that trek, and thenwe're staying uh in Greenport
for the weekend.
And I'm going to not touchgrass, but I will be touching
plenty of water.
SPEAKER_05 (26:04):
I have a bunch of cousins coming up and renting a
house about half an hour awayfrom us.
And I'm gonna get up reallyearly on Saturday and take the
the quad, the side by side.
How long do you have it?
Oh, I I bought one yesterday.
SPEAKER_04 (26:21):
You you bought it.
So Rob last week, he's like, I'mrenting one to see if I like it.
And uh, if I like it, I mightbuy one and he might have buying
it.
Good for you, man.
They're so much fun, aren'tthey?
SPEAKER_05 (26:34):
Uh it's a lot of fun.
The one I rented over theweekend was much more of the
like workhorse on the ranch sortof ver, you know, uh side by
side.
And it was not super fun on thetrails.
Like it was it was rough ridingon the trails.
So uh the one I bought is muchmore of a much more for the
(26:57):
trails and should be a lotfunner up here.
SPEAKER_04 (27:01):
Yeah, my uncle had my uncle had like a like seven
of them, right?
You know, like my uncle had agarage full of quads and
side-by-sides.
When you came, I think there wasonly two side-by-sides.
He used to have like five ofthem, but he had a thousand cc
razor two-seater.
That thing did zero to six feetin like three seconds.
SPEAKER_05 (27:23):
Mine's uh a thousand cc four-seater.
Yeah, think of it as it's not,it's not uh it's not razor, it's
uh can a maverick, but it's thesame style, but it's
four-seater.
SPEAKER_04 (27:34):
Dude, they're so much fun, man.
We would, I mean, I we would goout drinking and driving on the
bus property.
It was so bad.
So many accidents.
I had we went up one time, itwas like all the guys from work
went, and we we go and we'rewe're driving them out.
There's like these power linesup on my uncle's property, and
we're flying on them.
(27:55):
And uh they had they col one ofthe quads collided into one of
them, and my friend went overthe front.
We had to have them airliftedout because we couldn't get him
back to the house with afreaking helicopter, had to come
out by the freaking uh the thepower lines and pick them up,
and he got airlifted out.
They charge they charged him 40grand for that helicopter ride.
SPEAKER_05 (28:14):
Yeah.
Every time I heard every sobecause I know your uncle sold
the house up there, but uh everytime you went up there and used
those things, you broke onebroke every single time.
Every time it was it was it wasnever like it's like what you
know, Ant's gonna have to comehere and you'll have to take him
on, like, yeah, but he's notallowed to drive, he breaks.
SPEAKER_04 (28:35):
I never broke one, I never broke one.
That's what's funny.
It was always people I broughtthat used them, and they broke
them.
It was every time it was eithermy brother-in-law broke it or my
son's friend broke it.
I never broke any of them, butthey were never like$500 fixes,
they were always like$2,500fixes.
And my uncle was so bad at meevery time he always paid to fix
(28:57):
it too.
He never took money from me.
It was just so nuts.
But they're so much fun, they'rejust dangerous, man.
I mean, you're um you're gonnabe careful on it, but like we
would use them.
Like my son's friend wasdrinking and driving on the
thing, and he hit a tree stumpand he freaking bent the whole
frame on it.
SPEAKER_05 (29:13):
Well, so hope's nieces were killed on one, like
three on a quad though, right?
Not no, it was a side-by-side,really.
So it took all it took a longtime before Hope was comfortable
with this idea.
SPEAKER_04 (29:25):
Yeah, yeah, you just have to be cautious on them.
I know a few people that died onquads.
I I know at least three peoplethat died on quads.
I had I had one friend, onefriend is paralyzed from them.
I have another another uh it waslike a total freak accident.
Was um my my wife's cousin'sfriends, they were up on their
house up at their house usingthem, and he was just like
(29:47):
riding it from the driveway intothe garage to put it away, and
the thing just took off and heand he hit a tree and wound up
dying on it.
And they're very like quads areway more.
I always got nervous with quads,but at least the side by sides
you put seat belts on, like theseat belts, helmets, yeah.
Yeah, like helmets, seat belts,the thing that always had a roll
cage on it.
So, like I like I've seen guysflip them and they're they're
(30:08):
okay.
You know, you just gotta becareful on them.
But um, yeah, it's just likewhen you turn the social media
off and you get out of yourhouse and you go live a little
bit, you kind of forget all thiscrap is going on, and then
you're just reminded of it ifyou gotta go play novus or
roulette.
Like if you're if you're ifyou're not at your home place
where you like to go to mass,you're gonna you never know what
(30:30):
you're gonna get.
SPEAKER_05 (30:31):
What really um I I won't say like it didn't anger
me, but what like bewildered mewas seeing the number of of
people, especially people whoclaim to want to live
traditional lives, post aboutthis sort of stuff on the fo
literally on the fourth of July.
Yeah, you know what I mean?
Like, yeah, that's nuts.
(30:52):
Like, yeah, how what how whatcould be more modernist than a
lay person complaining aboutchurch politics on the internet
on the you know on a majornational holiday?
SPEAKER_04 (31:04):
50th anniversary of our country.
It was a dude, we we were outand just like you like I saw
some of the videos you you sentme, and they you're just like
walking around, it was like suchAmericano.
It was like like small townAmericana, just people out
walking around the town, youguys are just all hanging out,
and you know, you stay for afireworks show and stuff.
Like there's something very umand just getting people together
(31:29):
like that.
The Fourth of July, I do likefor that reason, right?
Like you get you get groups ofpeople together, everybody pulls
their lawn chair up, and theyjust kind of you know pull up a
seat and they watch thefireworks.
Like we we watched them.
I gotta tell the full story onthe other side because I can't
really tell it.
But like me and my wife werewatching them from the boat.
We had people that were supposedto watch them with us, but they
(31:53):
didn't, they they had a blowout,and so we dropped them off, and
me and my wife go out to watchthem, and we're just sitting on
the boat, dude.
And from the South Shore of LongIsland, you're on the you're on
the coast of Long Island, andthere's 30 fireworks shows going
on all up and down the coast,and you're just seeing the whole
skyline lit up, and then out ofnowhere, these two bolts of
(32:15):
lightning, like I'm talkingcloud to ground lightning, hit
the water like a couple of milesout from us, and it was it was
it lit the sky up more than thefireworks.
That's when Nicole, we gotta getoff the water right now, like
yeah, and then we get off thewater, and I'm talking 80 mile
(32:37):
an hour winds come blowingthrough, dude.
Like people's trees got knockeddown, and it was it was
literally a 10-minute stormwhere these winds came through,
people's trees went down.
Uh, my in-laws, there was a guyhad a bonfire on the beach, and
they live on uh they live, theyhave like dunes by their house.
They're on they're up on likethis dunes, and the wind came in
(33:01):
and blew the fire onto thedunes.
The dunes, because it was so dryand hot in the days leading up,
the dunes lit up totallyengulfed in flames.
They would have lost the entiredune if it wasn't for the rain
that followed the wind.
Like the the it was all over thenews.
The the whole like half the duneburned up, and then all of a
(33:22):
sudden it started raining and itput it out, thank God.
But everything was just likebone dry because we had this
heat wave that came throughbefore that.
It was we I had Bobby and mysister out the week before.
We had we had a week-long heatwave where it was a hundred
degrees out, man.
And Bob Bobby came out.
Uh, we took Bobby and Chrissyout right after they got
(33:43):
engaged, and we're out on thewater on the sound on the north
shore of Long Island, and it'snice and cool because you're on
the sound and the and the coolbreeze from the sound.
We took the water Connecticut.
As soon as we pulled in themarina in Connecticut, it felt
like we were driving into anoven.
SPEAKER_06 (34:01):
Like this heat just hit us.
SPEAKER_04 (34:02):
We were like, oh my gosh, man, how are we going to
handle this?
We got off the boat, we atesomething, we were literally all
fanning our faces like this.
We were just like, it was justdreadfully hot.
We couldn't even stay there.
We ate something real quick andjust got back out on the water
because it was so freaking hotin Connecticut.
But yeah.
Um, so we have a few topics wecan cover though.
(34:24):
Um, there uh on the other side,I figured we could do it.
I wanted to do that that blackwoman who shot the veteran in
the parking lot.
I wanted to get your take on it.
SPEAKER_05 (34:37):
Why?
I don't I don't think there'senough info to have a good take
on it.
SPEAKER_04 (34:44):
Or should we do the trad the trad wife thing real
quick?
So go up either one, whateveryou want to do.
Yeah, do the trad wife one here.
Let's do the trad wife one.
I want to do the trad wife onebecause this one's an
interesting one.
SPEAKER_05 (35:06):
It looks like a video of an annoying woman.
SPEAKER_04 (35:08):
It is an annoying woman.
Of course it is.
Of course it's an annoyingwoman.
Let's play this one.
SPEAKER_08 (35:16):
Where are they hiding the 47-year-old trad
wives?
That's what I want to know.
That's what I think about everytime I see one of these videos
from like a 19 or 20-year-old umtalking about having no job and
no degree, and she loves it andit's amazing.
Where are the trad wives thatare my age, that are 47, that
are 50?
Why are they not out thereespousing um how amazing?
SPEAKER_05 (35:35):
Doesn't she realize most 50-year-old women aren't on
Instagram?
Like Jesus.
SPEAKER_04 (35:40):
That's exactly what it is.
Like I I played this with mywife before.
I'm like, I'm like, she wants toknow where all the 47-year-old
trad wives are.
She goes, We're not on theinternet.
That's like oh my gosh.
So the ones that are 20 aredoing a LARP, right?
Yeah.
So there it's that's what itreally comes down to.
So, all right, wait.
(36:00):
I I'm gonna I I sent one to ourum uh because I want to send you
this.
Like, there's the there's thethe 47-year-old tradwise are are
watching us, they're not online.
So I'm gonna send this one tothe telegram because it's it was
in our group chat, but um, Iwant to read this article, pull
this article up.
(36:20):
This is totally insane.
I just sent it to Telegram.
Yeah, I got it.
So this the like the young girltrad wife LARP is a thing,
right?
And it's these young girls whoget on the internet and they're
baking cakes and they're doingall this stuff, and it's like
(36:41):
it's a LARP, they're not reallytrad wives, like they're on the
internet and they're they'ree-girls, right?
This that's a very differentthing than a genuine trad wife,
right?
A legitimate trad wife is justat home, like caring for her
home.
So, um, this this article isinfuriating.
So divorce, destitute, and leftfor dead, the dark side of trad
(37:02):
wife life after 35.
Divorce was analogous to a curseword for uh Anit Anitza
Templeton's hyper-traditionalfaith-centered home, with her
husband hailed king of thecastle, almost rivaling the holy
trinity between God the Fatherand the Son and the Holy Spirit.
Templeton, who married at age26, eagerly abandoned her dreams
(37:23):
of pursuing a career in art toinstead satisfy her man's every
command.
I mean, that's my wife.
She abandoned her career in art.
First off, there's no such thingof a career in art.
Exactly.
From growing the family'sproduce in her private garden,
like this woman is describing aan idyllic, beautiful life.
Growing growing the family'sproduce in her private garden to
(37:44):
gussing up in a sexy outfit andcosmetics before he came home
from work.
The brunette's routine becamethat of an extreme 1950s
homemaker, obeying baking, andbaby making.
First off, I don't believe aword of this.
This woman did not do any ofthese things.
This woman is a hag.
No, so I don't believe any ofthat.
Um, so it's a regime that mosttraditional or trad wives follow
(38:07):
based on religious principles.
Unlike housewives, women whoraise kids and manage their
households as equals to theirworking spouses.
Like, come on.
Women who raise kids and managetheir households as equals to
their working spouses.
Trad wives often becomesubservient subordinates whose
sole purpose is to please theirpartner.
This is not, I don't know, maybethis exists.
(38:32):
Like the the the the a tradwife's duties are to her home.
It's like it's just so dumb.
It's such a caricature and acliche.
Um, but by 36, Templeton foundherself feeling like a prisoner
in her marriage, whichultimately ended in the once
taboo D-word.
And the mother of four sharedthat her biggest challenge
(38:53):
post-divorce was navigating lifewithout a solid education,
professional resume, orreal-world experience.
The New Jersey native is justone in the one in the rising
army of former trad wives who,after saying I do to a life of
submissive servitude, like ohman, no, that's like like like
(39:16):
trads are keeping their wives asslaves.
SPEAKER_05 (39:18):
It's so what's that what's that stupid show?
SPEAKER_04 (39:20):
Um oh with the uh Gideon or something, right?
The the uh the the with the redyeah yeah yeah the what is it
the the housemaid thinghandmaid's tale yeah that show
one-shotted women so bad, so badno I don't know, I don't know if
(39:45):
it gets into it, but I notice sofar they haven't told us
anything about this divorce asto and not listen to me.
They do not they can't list asingle thing the husband did
wrong.
Like the husband's out workingall day, the wife has a garden
and she looks pretty for himwhen he comes home.
My goodness, the horror.
How could she live a life ofsubservience to her husband like
(40:07):
this?
It's like, dude, my wife, uh, Icome home and my wife, like
yesterday I came home and mywife decided she was going to
paint all the doors in my housewhile I was at work yesterday.
And I come home, my wife iscovered in paint.
And I'm like, what are youdoing?
She's like, I decided to painteverything today.
And like that, like my wife doeswhat she wants to do.
(40:29):
It's not like she's I I somedays I come home and she's in
the backyard in the garden andshe's gardening and doing her
thing in the backyard.
She's not sitting around as mysleep, like especially now at
this point in life.
Like, she's just literally doeswhat she wants to do, and she
and every woman I know that goesto work is miserable at work,
like they're not nobody wants towork.
(40:50):
I don't want to work.
Why would anyone work?
I would give anything to nothave to work.
It's so insane that people thinkthat they want to work.
Guess what, guys?
Careers aren't fulfilling.
Stop telling people they'refulfilling.
That's they're not fulfilling.
That's really what it is, right?
So people think you're going tobe fulfilled in a career, and
you're definitely not.
SPEAKER_05 (41:11):
I like my job you think you want them to be
fulfilling because your normallife isn't fulfilling.
That's what you're gettingwrong.
SPEAKER_04 (41:17):
Yeah.
SPEAKER_05 (41:18):
Your wife outside of work is supposed to be
fulfilling, right?
SPEAKER_04 (41:21):
So, like, I am not, I don't dude.
I go to work, it's just a way toprovide for my family.
Like, it's just all it is, it'sjust the thing that brings the
paycheck in to pay the bills, todo the thing I actually care
about, which is being a husbandand father.
Like, that's my purpose.
My purpose is being a husbandand father.
SPEAKER_05 (41:37):
I don't give a about they're the opposite of
affiliate, yeah.
SPEAKER_04 (41:41):
Absolutely, man.
Like, whoever's feeding anyonethis nonsense that, like, you're
gonna be fulfilled from yourcareer.
Like, men aren't fulfilled intheir career, it's so dumb.
People who say they be bored athome are boring people.
Yeah, my wife's never bored,never ever, ever bored.
Ever.
Because I I watched the clip ofum uh LeBron James recently,
(42:04):
where he was like, It's like, Idon't know, I could I couldn't
have my wife just sitting.
I I could never marry like astay-at-home girl who like is
just sitting around on the couchall day while I'm out working.
And first off, the man doesn'tknow what working is.
But but the point is, like, I'venever I'm not kidding.
(42:24):
I'm married 21 years tomorrow.
I have never once come home fromwork and my wife is sitting on
the couch.
Never once.
Like, my wife doesn't sit on thecouch, my wife is always doing
stuff, she's constantly doingstuff.
I've never seen her not busy.
She's got a ton of stuff to doat our house.
She's constantly doing myfreaking my my I can't tell you
(42:45):
how often the furniture ischanged around in my house.
And then I'll come home and umit's I'm numb to it now because
it happens so often.
And I'll come home and I won'tnotice that the whole room is
rearranged.
And she thinks I'm like, I don'tshe, I she's just like, How do
you not notice that I change?
I'm like, because you change ittwice a week.
(43:05):
I'm like, I don't know.
You had it like this last week.
It's like, how often can youchange the furniture around?
And you think I'm still gonnanotice?
It's not something that crazy.
I don't know.
She's moved her computer deskfrom the dining room to the
living room to the bedroom 87times in this year alone.
SPEAKER_05 (43:22):
Meanwhile, Ant's changed the studio once on this
show in four years, and it wasthe most controversial thing
he's ever done.
SPEAKER_04 (43:28):
It really was.
I upended my entire house to putthis studio together.
Um, all right, so and Templetonshared that her biggest
challenge post-divorce wasnavigating life without a solid
education, professional resume,or real world experiences.
The New Jersey native is justoh, we went through all this
already.
Um so there aren't a lot of tradwives over 35 or 40 because the
(43:51):
the reason I put this articleafter is because this is a
response to that woman askingwhere all the 47 year old trad
wives are.
There aren't a lot of trad wivesover 35 or 40 because.
They've either got divorced andmoved away from the lifestyle
after learning how toxic it canbe.
Templeton, now 43, a woman, awomen's advocate, currently
based in Denver.
So this woman was a conservativetrad wife, and now she's a
(44:14):
women's advocate.
Like this woman was always afreaking women's advocate.
Yeah.
Get out of here.
Online discourse around the uharound the former trad wives
erupted recently after JessicaValenti, a New York City
feminist speaker and author,asked a seemingly lighthearted
question on social media.
That's a video we just watched.
Uh, at a certain age, I got tothe point in in the marriage
(44:37):
where I was like, Oh Mg, is thisreally what I want to do with my
life?
What comes after this?
So, like first off, there's noit's not like her husband abused
her, it's not like her husbandcheated.
At a certain point, she got toher, she she's got her she got
her children and her husband.
SPEAKER_05 (44:54):
At a certain point, she went does does she have
children?
Because you'd be imagined beingone of her children, and he
hearing her say that.
Is this really what I do withme?
Like, what comes after this?
SPEAKER_04 (45:04):
These women, I'm telling you, they're on social
media, they get a DM from an oldguy on Facebook or something
like that.
Like, so these women alwaysthink the grass is greener
somewhere else, so they throw anuke into their own home and rip
their family apart because theythink they're gonna find
something better.
She's a 43-year-old hag withnobody going around as a women's
(45:28):
advocate.
Because what else is she goingto do?
And then she's gonna be 50 oneday.
Her children aren't gonna talkto her because she torpedoed
their life, yeah, and she'sgonna be alone at 55, 60.
It's just it's crazy what someof these women do.
SPEAKER_05 (45:42):
It's it's on it's so much of it, is because these
women are told that they'reworth way more than they're
worth, you know what I mean?
SPEAKER_04 (45:52):
Like that they deserve everything that and and
they think they're going to goonto the dating market at 40
with three kids, and guys aregonna be dying to to hang out
with them.
And what what they really like,especially in the modern dating
world, guys in their 40s are notlooking to like it's not like it
(46:13):
used to be like if a guy getsdivorced, he wants to get
remarried.
Like, these guys are justrunning through these women,
like and so they're gettingtreated like garbage.
They're just getting you see thefreaking guy up in Maine getting
accused of in a situation shipand like 40 years old.
It's like these women have noidea what they're setting
themselves up for, man.
(46:34):
Um, uh wait, I just wanted toread this one more paragraph.
You can leave it that.
I'll just read it.
Of the trad wives who do stay intheir marriages, she believes
they have become dead inside,and that's why they're not
promoting a lifestyle like theyoung, popular trad wives
online.
Uh, older wives are keepingtheir heads down, getting their
teeth and gritting their teethand waiting to die because
that's all that's left for them.
(46:55):
The projection there isastounding, dude.
Let me just tell you something.
Uh, I can only speak from myfirsthand experience.
Like me and my wife are gettingolder now.
We're in our mid-40s.
Like, it's exciting to like dothings together.
Like, I don't know.
I get I we because I had um Iwas talking to a couple of guys
(47:18):
at work the other day, and likesome of these guys are just
miserable in their marriages.
And I'm like, I don't maybe I Idon't maybe I'm just a maybe I
really am like the one personwho actually enjoys their spot.
Like, I like my wife, like we goand do things together, we have
fun together.
I'm excited to go away with herthis week, and we're gonna have
fun.
I'm not even trying to be wifeguy, like it's just I enjoy her,
(47:40):
she's fun.
I don't hate her guts.
When I hear guys talk abouttheir wives, like they hate
their wives.
I'm just like, how did you getyourself into this mess?
Like, how how do guys get into asituation where they don't even
know the person they're married?
Like, people get married, andthen they I think people just
let their relationships gettotally like they they just let
(48:01):
their relationship die, man.
SPEAKER_05 (48:03):
I don't know.
I don't I don't get it, like youknow, at some level, like I
understand having separatehobbies, but the couples that
have separate hobbies that takethem like physically apart for
like whole weekends at a timeseem uh weird to me.
Like's tweet today.
SPEAKER_04 (48:24):
Who Matt Rifes had something really funny?
I don't know how he didn't wantthis right.
He's a comedian.
He was talking about guys thatplay golf.
It was actually really funny.
I gotta find it.
Hang on.
Uh he said, hang on, dudes wholove golf, just get the divorce
already.
Like it was just that simple.
(48:44):
Like guys who are off everyweekend at the local golf course
and their wife doing somethingtotally different.
It really is nuts.
It's like just get the divorcealready.
You guys don't like each other,you're just looking for an
excuse to get away from her.
SPEAKER_05 (48:57):
I I really, yeah.
I can't like yeah, there'sthings I like to do that that
hope doesn't like to do, andvice versa.
SPEAKER_04 (49:05):
Yeah, like you go to the gun range and you're
shooting, right?
SPEAKER_05 (49:08):
But even then, I'd have more fun at the gun range
with her there.
Yeah, like there's almostnothing in my life that isn't
better with her and my kidsaround, you know what I mean?
SPEAKER_04 (49:17):
Like for me, it's for me, it like it in the summer
it's the boat, in the winterit's snowboarding, things like
that.
Like, my wife comes with me onall that stuff.
I don't have like a separatehobby from her, you know.
It's like I don't know, I don'tI don't gamble, I don't do I
don't I don't know.
I I look forward to my weekendsto go and spend with my wife and
kids, and we just go and dostuff together, and it's like
(49:38):
the highlight of my life.
I'd rather be doing that thananything else.
Yep.
Um, yeah, you want to knowsomething?
She's she's she's on the otherside of that wall, and she
listens a lot of times, Hope,but not even that.
Like, I'm not saying there'slike you shouldn't have like Rob
just said, like, you can havesome things you do in the reach,
but like it, I think it'simportant to just have I was I
(50:01):
was I was thinking about it.
Like, if I hit Lotto, like Ithink I would still do this
show.
Like, I like if if the if I hitLotto and I did not need the
money whatsoever at all, I thinkI would still do this show with
you.
I enjoy doing it.
I might not do every two twoepisodes a week.
Like, I might say, all right,we'll cut it down to one episode
a week, you know what I mean?
(50:22):
But I don't I don't think Iwould stop doing it.
Like, I enjoy coming on andtalking with my friend and
getting a chance to talk.
I don't gamble except that timewhen I gambled and they gave me
16,000 extra.
Freaking Don.
I hate Don.
He remembered first of all, it'sreally good to see Dodd in the
chat again.
It's really good to see him inthe chat.
He hasn't been in a while.
(50:43):
Um, I don't well, I don'tgamble, but I talk, I'm talking
Bobby.
Uh Rob, we're gonna have to talkabout this.
Um, the wedding.
Like, are we are you are you andHope gonna come to the wedding,
or do you want to just come tothe bachelor party?
We gotta figure this out.
We'll talk offline, but um, I'mtrying to talk Bobby into doing
Atlantic Party.
SPEAKER_05 (51:01):
Because I'd have to know like dates and stuff.
SPEAKER_04 (51:03):
Yeah, of course, of course.
We'll figure all that out.
Um, we're trying to figure out Iwant him to do Atlantic City for
the bachelor party, just becauseit's in between me and him.
Like he's in Virginia and I'm inNew York.
I figured Jersey, you know, uhAtlantic City is a good meetup
in the middle.
So, and plus I think all mybrothers are gonna want to go to
something like that.
It's like we'll go, we'll grabdinner together, we'll lose all
(51:24):
our money at the blackjacktable, and then we'll just go
hang at the bar together.
Do something like that.
SPEAKER_05 (51:30):
Um it's too bad your uncle didn't have a big house in
Pennsylvania.
SPEAKER_04 (51:34):
Yeah, that would have been fun to do.
All right, so wait, I I didn't Iblur brushed over this.
I know you put it up.
I travel a ton for business andfor reserves, gets old when
married with kids.
I can't I don't know how armyfamilies do it.
I really don't.
I don't know how um oh Molly,you play golf?
That's probably interesting.
Yeah, Paul goes to the the theshooting range without on his
(51:58):
own, but he golfs with her.
Yeah, I don't know.
SPEAKER_05 (52:02):
You gotta I I don't golf has no draw for me at all.
SPEAKER_04 (52:09):
I don't I don't yeah, I don't know.
No, I've played golf twice.
I suck so bad at it, but it isfun.
You get a couple beers and youyou just like we we were like
crashing into each other withthe golf carts and stuff.
We made a fun day out of it, butall right, so if I won the
lottery, I would still watchthis show.
We appreciate you guys.
(52:30):
Yeah, and by the way, like ourshow is dying right now.
So if you guys want a superchat, we'd appreciate it.
SPEAKER_05 (52:36):
Or or more we'd rather you go subscribe on
locals.
Yeah, we'd way rather you joinlocals.
Also, it might be dying becausewe forgot to do you know things
like our ad sponsors.
SPEAKER_04 (52:46):
I I've done them every time.
Not today we haven't, not todaywe didn't, but um, I'm sure I'm
as we're as we're talking, I'mtrying to think of a good
knickknack success story.
Uh um do you have do you haveany good knickknack success?
I was all right, so the the theBobby Bobby's best man.
(53:12):
He's like uh well guy on thephone, he's like, uh, you want
to be my best man?
I'm like, no, you have abrother.
SPEAKER_05 (53:17):
Like yeah, like you have a brother.
Like your brother's gonna beyour best man.
Was my brother my best man?
No, sorry, Ryan.
Um, but I I admit that I waswrong there.
I'm sorry, Ryan.
SPEAKER_04 (53:33):
So I'm like, no, you have a brother.
I'm like, I'm not giving aspeech at your wedding.
He's like, Yeah, that's why mybrother doesn't want to do it.
But then I was thinking aboutit.
I'm like, all right, what if Idid do the speech at the
wedding?
SPEAKER_05 (53:45):
Oh, whoa, we could turn it into an avoiding Babylon
talk.
SPEAKER_04 (53:48):
And a knick-knack ad.
I can make the whole thing aknick-knack ad.
It might actually work out good.
Uh yeah, it's like I did thestudio over and now the show's
end.
No, I think it I think the SSPXwas such a touchy subject that
six months people will cooldown.
(54:09):
That's what I think too.
But like when I tell you we losta hundred local subscribers in
the past week, like people justunsubscribe from which never
happens.
Like, we'll we'll lose five orsix and then we'll get ten.
People just unsubscribe fromlocals in the past week.
And I think it's because of theSSPX thing, which sucks because
I don't care that much about it.
SPEAKER_05 (54:29):
Yeah, do a normal speech and then halfway do
sponsorship ad reads.
SPEAKER_04 (54:34):
I I think I could I think I could put a good I think
I could put a good uh oh we missyou, Mimi.
Thank you so much.
Appreciate you.
Um we will all walk with youinto obscurity.
We'll keep doing it, guys, aslong as some people watching, we
don't care.
SPEAKER_05 (54:52):
No, Don.
We got your credit, we got yourdebit card number.
You're subscribed forever.
SPEAKER_04 (54:57):
You won't I won't let you live at that.
You have to make eye contactwith me on Sundays.
There's no chance.
That's the other thing.
Sunday, like I'm going toGreenport this weekend.
I'm playing Novus Ordo Roulettethis weekend.
Because I don't think there'sgonna unless Patrick just texted
me.
He's working in Greenport.
Uh, so maybe he knows a place togo to mass out there.
He said, I work in Greenport, Iwork in Greenport, I'm there
(55:19):
tomorrow.
So maybe, maybe uh we'll see himwhile I'm out there.
But Patrick, if you knowsomewhere to go to Mass out
there, let me know because it'sgonna be a rough one this
weekend, I have a feeling.
Um people on sub because of theSSPX thing.
I mean, I go to SSPX chapel, andI didn't think you said anything
other than what you've alwayssaid.
Yeah, I I I didn't think soeither, but people don't want
(55:40):
like uh uh just like a measuredresponse on things.
They want you to come downhardcore on their side.
So I mean I don't look atanybody that goes to the SSPX
any differently than I did twoweeks ago.
I mean, they've been telling methe SSPX is in schism since 2005
when I started paying attentionto this stuff, so I don't see
how it's any different now thanit was then.
(56:01):
Konomi, Konomi's in the chat.
Konomi goes to the society.
You think I'd think look atKonomi any differently?
Love Konomi.
Come to Portland, Oregon.
I'll take you to a great TLM.
I would I want to go to the WestCoast very badly.
But I pray for you out inPortland, though.
SPEAKER_05 (56:18):
I want to go to like Montana.
I don't know if I need to gofurther west than that.
SPEAKER_04 (56:25):
I want to no, I want to go see the national parks in
Washington State, um Californianational parks.
There's some beautiful nationalparks out west.
SPEAKER_05 (56:36):
Yeah, but I can't carry a gun.
SPEAKER_04 (56:40):
That's true.
Um yeah, uh, well, I I spokewith we have a Father Modsley
update for locals.
SPEAKER_05 (56:47):
Do we?
SPEAKER_04 (56:48):
Yeah.
Yeah.
Well, you didn't watch the lastlocals episode, but we did get
into uh some of the stuff withhim on the last locals episode.
Um yeah, Rob doesn't even knowthat me and him have been named
as Russian assets, also.
SPEAKER_05 (57:05):
I didn't, not until the green right before the show.
SPEAKER_04 (57:07):
I told him right before the show.
I said, Oh, in case you don'tknow, we uh we have been named
as Russian assets.
Um yeah, I do I do have a followup.
SPEAKER_05 (57:18):
Do Russian assets get money?
SPEAKER_04 (57:20):
No, apparently uh we just um yeah, I I the I have
Father Mosley scheduled for whenhis next book comes out.
That's when we're gonna get himback on.
But um I did.
SPEAKER_05 (57:37):
I did study Russian.
You're right, Don.
SPEAKER_04 (57:41):
Do you have a Russian connect that I'm unaware
of?
Are you taking are you takingmoney from the Kremlin and not
cutting me in on it?
SPEAKER_05 (57:49):
Have you seen the exchange rate?
There's not much to cut you inon.
SPEAKER_04 (57:54):
Um, I did not see the Father uh Gregory Pine with
Wagner episode.
I saw people clipping it andragging him for saying some of
the similar things that we say,just like the Novus Ordo is kind
of a dumpster fire, and peoplewere calling it like Stockholm
syndrome and stuff, but I thinkit's just recognizing reality.
(58:16):
Yeah, you guys break my shopsfor buying a boat.
Rob's out here buying side bysides.
SPEAKER_05 (58:20):
First off, wait, where'd it go?
Buying is kind of a stretch,it's financed.
SPEAKER_04 (58:25):
Like yeah, well, my boat was my boat was my boat.
My boat was basically a carpayment, you know.
I mean, it's paid off now, butit was basically a car car
payment when I bought it.
SPEAKER_05 (58:36):
Well, luckily the side-by-side is less than the
car payment.
SPEAKER_04 (58:40):
Uh, my my boat was a hundred dollars less than my car
payment was when I bought theboat.
It was a hundred dollars lessthan the car payment was until
the motor blew and I had todump.
Now the car's paid off, and theboat's paid off, and I'm
guaranteeing my car engine goessoon, man.
(59:02):
It's just the way it happens.
Yeah.
Um, what did what did uh Oceansay about Kanomi?
You always looked at medifferently.
Yes, you always looked at medifferently first day in Italy,
and then Ocean says, it'sbecause you're black.
No.
(59:23):
Well, technically, yes, becauseI thought Kenomi was like an
African migrant in Italy when Ifirst met him.
So like I literally did becausethere was African migrants
coming up to me.
Oh yeah.
Did I tell the story on here?
No.
When we get to Rome, first off,everybody gets to Rome, and
we're there uh a day beforeKonomi gets there.
(59:46):
So like I think the wholegroup's there, and I don't know,
there's more people coming.
And then so Konomi got there aday late because his flight got
delayed.
Now, the next day we're in inthe Vatican, basically, like
we're in Vatican City, and whenyou're in Vatican City, there
are African migrants everywheretrying to sell you phone
(01:00:07):
chargers, trying to sell you umlike uh little little statues of
the Vatican.
SPEAKER_05 (01:00:13):
Oh, that that sounds like the Mall of America.
SPEAKER_04 (01:00:15):
Yeah, it's like you know, like you like when they're
in France, they're selling youlittle Eiffel Towers and stuff.
So Konomi comes up to me and hehands me like one of these
trinkets, and I just look athim, I go, bro, I'm not buying
your stupid trinkets.
And he goes, Anthony, it's me,Konomi.
I'm here for you, and I'm like,Oh, I felt so bad.
(01:00:41):
Oh, I felt terrible.
Oh me is uh a dear friend now,and he has a heart of gold.
He's like he's one of thoseguys, even my wife says it like
when you're around Konomi, youjust like you like you feel like
you're around somebody who'sjust holy, you know.
He he kind of just like puts allhe you you feel like you're
you're you're hanging with Jesuswhen you're with Konomi.
He's a beautiful person.
(01:01:03):
But yes, that was kind of funnywhen that happened.
Uh at least that's hilarious.
Um, what is this?
Justice for Kenomi.
Uh all right, so we're at anhour.
We're gonna go over to locals.
We'll uh I'll tell the fullstory of what happened on the
boat this weekend.
(01:01:24):
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So uh I'm gonna think of a I'mgonna get a good idea for uh
rarem on Tuesday.
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I am we get all my cousins hotelon this weekend.
(01:02:05):
Oh, that's what happened.
So he wanted to shake my hand,but the bracelet one guy gave
him was in this so basicallyKonomi came up, and one of the
migrants gave him a thing, andthen Konomi comes over to shake
my hand, and I thought he wastrying to hand me the thing that
got so I thought he was sellingsomething, and I'm like, I don't
want this thing.
What are you doing?
(01:02:26):
It was it was a very funny thingwhen it happened.
Oh, I felt bad.
SPEAKER_05 (01:02:31):
So um, okay, so what's funny is you could go to
like Norway and they would thinkyou're an African migr migrant
trying to sell them a toy drink.
SPEAKER_04 (01:02:39):
You see that you see Mamdani didn't put little Italy
as uh as one of the immigrant uhoutcrops and or outposts in in
New York.
Everybody's saying that meansthe Italians are finally making
it as whites.
Um go to blackmonkrosary.com,get 10% off an amazing black
monk rosary by going toblackmonkrosary.com using code
(01:02:59):
AvoidingBabylon at checkout.
Uh we love black monk rosaries.
Is there anything coming up thatwould make a good gift for um
what's coming up?
We have our ladies' feast day inAugust.
SPEAKER_05 (01:03:14):
In August, yeah.
SPEAKER_04 (01:03:15):
Yeah, we have in August we have our Lady's Feast
Day.
I don't know.
It like honestly, if you know aconvert, grab one for a convert
that's just coming in.
Uh, if you know somebody who'sconsidering the faith, grab one
and get one for them.
If you have children, all yourchildren should have black monk
rosaries, guys.
SPEAKER_05 (01:03:32):
If you know a uh if you know a biz LARPE, buy one
for them.
Yes, make that's how we Latinizethem, guys.
That's how we make them realCatholics.
SPEAKER_04 (01:03:40):
Um, yeah, Bobby's having a Latin uh wedding, by
the way.
Wait, confirmed?
Not confirmed, but we'll make ithappen.
SPEAKER_05 (01:03:51):
Okay.
SPEAKER_04 (01:03:51):
I yeah, he's getting it's gonna be a Latin wedding.
So uh all right, guys, we'regonna head over to locals.
If you're not a subscriber tolocals, I forgot to put the link
in the chat last time, Rob.
Uh, if you can, just throw thelink.
Link up.
Uh, and we will see you on theother side, kids.
SPEAKER_05 (01:04:10):
Uh, do we have a good one?
SPEAKER_04 (01:04:13):
You play the guns and rosaries outro because I did
it last time.
I heard that.
That was I played the guns androsaries outro at the end of the
last locals episode.
I couldn't hit end fast enough.
Like I like I ended the show,and that that song comes on, and
I'm like, Guns and Rosaries, areyou kidding me?
And I just kept trying to endit.
Adrian got a kick out of it.
(01:04:34):
He thought it was.
SPEAKER_05 (01:04:35):
Oh, I bet he did.
SPEAKER_04 (01:04:36):
Yeah, he loved it.
SPEAKER_05 (01:04:37):
Um, yeah.
SPEAKER_04 (01:04:38):
You guys, if you're not local subscribers, you're
missing out, man.
SPEAKER_05 (01:04:50):
Well, since we watched that uh gay blessings,
here we go.
SPEAKER_09 (01:04:54):
I snap my fingers.
You forget that you're ever gay.
SPEAKER_03 (01:04:59):
I was never gay.
Exactly.
Wait, no, stop.
No, stop.
You can't.
I was never gay.
Okay.
No, I was never gay.
Sure.
You can't just state somethingand snap your fingers and then
be like, I was never gay.
SPEAKER_09 (01:05:13):
You say so.
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