April 17, 2024 • 42 mins
Today I am chatting with the wonderfully witty Saskia B, whose humor shines as brightly as her insights into the oddities of life on and off stage. From her non-Dutch heritage to the comedic corners of Huntsville's high-IQ society, Saskia shared stories of her journey across the country, her theater beginnings and her leap into the world of standup comedy.
We talk of thrift store finds, the ups and downs of upsizing and downsizing , and the eclectic collections we curate over years. But it wasn't all nostalgia—our chat also delved into the Phoenix comedy scene, the shows that tickled on our funny bones the best, and camaraderie that comes from fully engaging.
Finally, we strolled through the historic neighborhoods of downtown Phoenix, mused over the charming quirks of old homes and the evolving trends in urban living. We pondered the future of real estate, from Next Gen homes catering to multigenerational families wealth-building power of DIY videos on Youtube.
Don't miss the stories, laughs, and real estate savvy that Saskia B and I bring to the table, or rather, to the mic.
You can find Saskia at
Crackups Comedy: https://www.crackupscomedy.com/
Games Show Battle Rooms: https://gameshowbattlerooms.com/phoenix
Mystery Mansion Dinner Theatre: https://www.mysterymansion.com/
and on the socials at
Facebook: https://www.facebook.com/beesaskia
Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/beesaskia/
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Speaker 1 (00:02):
Hello and welcome to Arizona Laughs and Listings, the
podcast where fun and funnyfolks get together and talk
about real estate and comedy twocompletely unrelated topics
that go surprisingly welltogether.
I'm your host, kristen LeVanway, a real estate agent here in
the Phoenix metro area for 19years, as well as a local
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stand-up comedian.
Today, I'm chatting with SaskiaB, a human comedian.
She's smart, she's funny, she'ssassy.
She's an experienced home buyerand seller and a thrift store
art collector.
I am so excited to have youjoining me today, saskia.
Speaker 2 (00:43):
Me too.
Hi, kristen, it's always apleasure.
You know you're my favoriterealtor I've ever had.
Oh I appreciate that.
Speaker 1 (00:52):
I appreciate that so much.
Yes, and you are in my definitetop 10 of clients, you and Eric
.
So it's a mutual admirationsociety here right now.
I love it.
It was a fun project workingwith you, but we're here to talk
about bigger and better things,because I'm amazed at how well
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these two topics go togethercomedy and real estate.
So that's what we're all abouthere.
So let's start off with who isSaskia?
What's the deal Like?
What do people want to knowabout you?
Speaker 2 (01:30):
I don't know what they want to know.
I think the number one questionis where did the name come from
?
Saskia, and I have a joke aboutit and I won't tell it on your
podcast because I don't know ifthis is a family program.
But um, the long story of it,long story short is it's a Dutch
(01:50):
name.
It does not have any bearing on, like it's not a family name,
and I am, in fact, not a Dutchperson you're not.
Speaker 1 (01:58):
I actually am Dutch, but I have a regular name.
I don't have a Dutch first name.
I had a Dutch maiden name, vanValkenburg.
Speaker 2 (02:07):
Oh wow, my maiden name is Badgewell and I think it
does not get more English thanthat, which, strangely, people
had a lot of trouble with.
I was like it's notfundamentally any harder than
doghouse but, people cannot yeah, it's a compound word, right.
Speaker 1 (02:23):
Two words joined together, right?
I mean, obviously you're acomedian, yeah.
Speaker 2 (02:29):
I'm a comedian.
Um, I have been doing likeentertainment adjacent stuff
probably my whole life.
I grew up in Orlando, florida,and in Orlando my dad worked as
an actor and a singer and acasting agent and did all kinds
of entertainment stuff and I wasjust kind of hanging out on set
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sometimes.
Or you know, for a lot of yearshe did dinner theater at Fort
Wilderness at Disney World.
So for several years he playedMarshall Matt Dillon in the
dinner theater show there and sothat I kind of grew up there
and it's fun, because I actuallydo mystery dinner theater now
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as a grown-up.
Speaker 1 (03:17):
So yeah, I can see your dad being Matt Dillon.
He's a pretty cool dude.
I'm glad I got to meet him.
Speaker 2 (03:25):
He's a really real cool guy.
Yeah, he's fun, um, but yeah, Ithink just being around that
growing up was impactful, um,and it probably doesn't hurt
that.
My parents did put me in actingschool when I was like 10 years
old, and I think part of thatwas because I was painfully shy
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and nobody would know that aboutme.
Now I don't think, but at thetime I think they were like oh,
she's weird, we should dosomething about it.
Yeah.
Speaker 1 (03:55):
I think that's interesting because I'm also
very shy and I also think peopledon't realize that.
But even now I you know, Idon't know about you, but I
still have some like anxiety andstuff, just from being oh yeah,
I, I'm riddled with anxiety.
Uh, I just am not shy about itanymore, I guess yeah, you can
put on a face, I mean, you canpretend like you're not, I guess
(04:18):
, but it's.
It's funny how many people Ithink in comedy are not really
socially outward.
They're, you know, they're shy.
Speaker 2 (04:27):
Well, yeah, I mean, if you think about it, it's you
know, there are a lot of peopledo comedy for a lot of different
reasons, I would say.
Or they start for differentreasons and they tend to fall
into like two categories.
One is because they are acreative soul.
They're just an artist, they'rea person that has to do
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creative undertakings, no matterwhether it's, you know,
painting or singing or dancingor whatever it is.
And then there's people who doit because, um, I think they're
probably just egomaniacs.
To be honest.
Um, I'm not saying that, behonest, I'm not saying that
there's not a touch ofegomaniacal elements to the
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personality of anybody whostarts it for more legitimate
reasons.
Speaker 1 (05:14):
But yeah, I think I see your point.
Some people need a lot ofattention and some people don't
want the attention, which isweird.
It's kind of counterintuitivewhen you think about going on
stage but you don't want theattention, which is weird.
It's kind of counterintuitivewhen you think about going on
stage, but you don't really wantattention.
Yeah, there's a lot of peoplethat fall into that category.
Speaker 2 (05:32):
Well, yeah, I mean, I think it's the difference in
artistry between people that getup on stage and don't really
have anything to say.
They don't have anything totalk about, they don't have a
unique point of view.
I think one of the things thatI gripe most vocally about is
like open mic culture, whereit's a lot of young guys and
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they're learning and they're newand they're getting out there
and they're doing it, but itkind of turns into a little bit
of an echo chamber where, ifit's like everybody at the show
has the same point of view, thenwhat's fun about that?
Speaker 1 (06:07):
that's just not that interesting yeah, I hear what
you're saying.
It takes a time.
It takes a time for you to findyour voice.
I've heard sometimes 10 yearsbefore you really figure out
what it is you want to talkabout.
So you know when you're juststarting out.
I guess we have to.
You get to give them a littlegrace, navigating, so they'll
move on from the, the standardjokes that all the that's the
(06:30):
great hope.
Uh, some of them do, some ofthem don't, that's true, but you
know what, as long as they'regetting what they want out of it
, then it's cool.
Let's move on to our nextsegment, which I like to call
your first.
Next segment, which I like tocall your first, and so I love
to.
I love to hear about people'sfirst house and their first
comedy show.
(06:50):
You can start in any order youlike, okay.
Speaker 2 (06:54):
So, as you know, my husband and I we've owned many
homes over the course of ourmarriage and our first one was
this was technically his house,but we we became married while
we were living there and it wasa little tiny, I think, like a
post-work cottage in Tuscaloosa,alabama, in a little old
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neighborhood that at one pointin history was just young
families and then over the yearspeople aged out and then the
college campus there got a lotbigger, so a lot of it turned
into campus housing.
But at the time when we livedthere it was still mostly the
old neighborhood folks that werestill living there.
Speaker 1 (07:40):
What's the time frame ?
The circa of the neighborhood.
Speaker 2 (07:43):
I would say that house was probably built in the
40s.
Okay, I don't know for sure, Idon't really remember all the
details of it, but it was anolder home and to this day, eric
says when he has nightmares, hehas nightmares about that house
.
It's the thing of like, oh God,what's going to break next on
this thing?
What are we going to do?
(08:04):
We're going to have to dig upthe backyard to deal with the
plumbing.
We're going to have to replacethe roof.
We're going to get a new ACunit, like it's just.
You know, with an old house,it's always something Right.
Speaker 1 (08:14):
It's not the fondest of memories in that house.
Speaker 2 (08:18):
It sounds like yeah, but it was a great first house.
He bought it from hisgrandmother for not a lot of
money but, yeah, it was a greatplace for us to dwell.
And I like to say that I turnedit into a home yeah, because
before I moved in he was livingthere with his cousin and it was
gross.
(08:39):
Oh too much like bachelor padit was very bachelor pad.
The man did not have furniturebefore I got to him, it was just
a bed and a big old Tupperwarebin that he was using as a
hammer.
Speaker 1 (08:51):
That's sad.
Speaker 2 (08:52):
That's just sad it was it was.
He was like I don't really likethis house and I walked in
there.
I was like, yeah, why would youRight how little you have in
here?
Speaker 1 (09:02):
Yeah, it's always a woman's touch.
Yeah, it always helps.
It always helps, unless you'relucky in one of those.
I don't know, I'm not a verygood designer.
My house because I raised allboys, so it's not bachelor pad
but it's maybe bachelorpad-esque, Even though they
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moved out.
Speaker 2 (09:23):
it's like you get into that rut.
Speaker 1 (09:24):
It's probably more good on being sanitary than
being decorative Well andindestructible, you know yeah
yeah, durability accounts whatcan they not break?
Speaker 2 (09:31):
yeah, um, but no, it was.
Yeah, that was our first houseand it was just a darling little
thing.
But now that we have lived inbigger houses and went you know
we like got big houses for aminute there and now we have
scaled back down and are livingin the same size floor plan that
we were when we first started,but we love it.
(09:51):
Yeah, we don't need that muchspace, and I think that's the
big takeaway after a lot ofyears of owning homes is that we
just don't need all of that,right, it's a lot Because you
end up just collecting a bunchof stuff that you're like, why
do I have all this stuff?
Yeah, yeah, oh yeah, at the endof us moving away from the
biggest house that we lived in,we had to downsize considerably
(10:15):
and I gave away like an entirelike gym's worth of gym
equipment, and Eric gave awaylike an entire like landscaping
units worth of yard tools andmowers and stuff like that.
Yeah, but it's like, what areyou going to do?
You can't drag it around theworld with you, I mean you don't
need a lawnmower in Arizona.
Speaker 1 (10:34):
So Not always, not always so.
The house that you were in inEstrella Mountain Ranch, that
was already a downsized.
Speaker 2 (10:46):
Yeah, that was.
That was about half the size ofthe house that we came from Um,
and the reason why we had sucha big house prior to that was
because we bought it right afterthat.
That fun little real estatebubble burst picked it up as a
foreclosure in 2008, 2009,something like that.
So I mean, we, we bought thisgiant house for not a lot of
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money and you know, I'm sure wewere like the first wave of
riffraff in the neighborhood,but people giving you the side
eye hey.
Yeah, because we made friendswith all of our other cool
neighbors and we all.
This was like a golf cartneighborhood where everybody had
golf carts so we would justparty on the golf carts, like in
the neighborhood, just likebecause there was only one way
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in, one way out was no traffic.
That was just our own little,our own little like giant
cul-de-sac in the woods kind ofthing.
Um, but yeah, we had a blastliving out there.
Speaker 1 (11:42):
Well, that sounds fun .
Speaker 2 (11:44):
Yeah, yeah.
But was heating and cooling allof that worth it?
Was carrying all that stufffrom house to house, I don't
know, maybe it is.
That's just what you do in life, I guess.
Speaker 1 (11:56):
Yeah, I mean, maybe you do it so that you can
appreciate the smaller houseagain, Like I don't know
Everyone dreams of it.
You dream of having the bighouse, the big yard, and then
you get it and you're like, oh,this is a lot of work.
Speaker 2 (12:09):
Yeah, that's what it is.
It's a lot of work and nobodytells you about those pitfalls
of homeownership.
You know it might be differentnow, but when Eric and I were
growing up it was like stillvery much the like Reagan era
American dream.
You want to be a homeowner, asmall business owner, nuclear
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family, all of those things.
So we were.
It was just kind of a a giventhat we would be homeowners.
It was like, yeah, of courseyou're going to be a homeowner.
Speaker 1 (12:37):
Why wouldn't you that's?
Speaker 2 (12:38):
what employed people do?
They buy homes, and so we did.
We bought a bunch of them andwe had a vacation place at the
beach for a little while, andthat was awesome too.
So I will say that getting intohome ownership was an overall
good thing for us, because weended up making money over the
years by doing nothing more thanjust signing our name on paper,
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you know, and just waiting forthe market to do its thing, and
we made out pretty well, when Iknow some others didn't.
But we also don't have kids.
So that's a big part of ourability to kind of come and go
and make those moves, because wedon't have the anxiety that a
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young family would have where wehave to think about our school
system and, you know, all ofthose kinds of considerations.
We're just just twofreewheeling folks and if we
find somewhere we want to move,we move there.
Speaker 1 (13:36):
Yeah, that's awesome, but it is a good point you
raised.
The home ownership is a greatway for for just the average Joe
to build wealth, and that's onething I'm concerned about is I
feel like it's going to beharder going down, you know, in
future generations for that tohappen it will be because, if
you're working back to thebeginning of the tale, remember
my husband bought that firsthouse from his grandmother for a
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very, very below market price.
Speaker 2 (14:09):
Below market price and without that kind of
generational generosity that alot of people are not going to
have to rely on, it'll be harderto get started, it wouldn't be
impossible, but we definitelywere fortunate because we had
that gift up front For sure.
Speaker 1 (14:21):
All right, First comedy show.
Speaker 2 (14:26):
Oh, okay, yeah, my first comedy show would have
been my graduation showcase forthe standup comedy class that I
took when I started at Stardomein Birmingham in 2018, I think,
maybe 2017.
I can't remember when I startedthe classes, but um, but yeah.
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So my first standup comedyengagement was at the little
side room called the Broadwayroom at the Stardome.
And it was just a little openmic show, but I felt like I did
pretty well.
I was well prepared.
You know, I took it seriously,um and yeah, yeah, it was great
and it was a really interestingplace to start a comedy path,
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because that that's not really acomedy city Birmingham they
have a comedy club, but that isthe entire presence of comedy in
that city.
There is no real scene.
Speaker 1 (15:22):
there it's not like the Alabama hotspot of comedy.
Speaker 2 (15:25):
No no, although strangely you know the only
other standup live.
We have a standup live here indowntown Phoenix.
The only other one is locatedin Huntsville, alabama.
Wow, I don't know why.
I don't know why, but I actuallyyeah, I went to it when it
first opened.
It was in a repurposed Chineserestaurant, so it was still very
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Chinese restaurant on theoutside when I went there.
But Huntsville is one of thosestrange places where, like I
know, alabama has like the worstsocial cultural reputation in
the nation, but Huntsvillepeople forget.
Nasa is in Huntsville andRedstone Arsenal is in
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Huntsville, so there is a lot ofarmory and industrial and
aerospace tech that's centeredright there.
So it's like you just have thisbizarre population of geniuses
in the middle of Huntsville.
It's a strange place, but Iimagine that's why the comedy
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club is able to thrive.
There is because there isactually a pocket of people that
you know they're looking forsomething.
Yeah, like the intellectualliberal arts.
Speaker 1 (16:42):
Yes, yeah, they like to laugh.
So even though you started backwhen you were 10 getting all
geared up for this career ofyours in performance arts, you
didn't actually get into comedyuntil fairly recently, right?
Speaker 2 (16:57):
yeah, I mean not in any kind of like official
capacity.
I always did, you know, dramaand stuff when I was in high
school and um, and then evenafter high school I still
maintained like a volunteerposition in local community
theater, although I did a lot ofbehind the scenes stuff at that
point.
Um, because theater is a verytime consuming.
Undertaking, um to be in aproduction requires a lot more
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of someone that than who is justdoing tech on a production,
because you have to be there forthe full run of the rehearsal
even if you're a nobody.
I mean, that's just the cultureof theater is everybody's there
at the beginning andeverybody's there at the end.
And I kind of bring thatsensibility into comedy with me,
which is why I'm probably alittle more stiff or maybe old
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fashioned about the etiquettewhen you come into a performance
space, because it does botherme when people come in late and
then leave early if they're on ashow.
But that's the differencebetween standup and theater or
even improv, which is more teamsport oriented.
Um people tend to take libertieswith coming in and going out
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and I have always kind of had asensibility that we're, if we're
on a show, we are all operatingin service of the entire
production.
Speaker 1 (18:17):
It starts before people come in the door and if
you get a chance to produce ashow, then you learn about all
that stuff because it is.
It is very nerve wracking whenit's five minutes before it's
supposed to start and you'relike where, where are they?
And then, yeah, you should hangout and support your fellow
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comedians.
Speaker 2 (18:38):
Yeah, yeah and it.
You know we can't always dothat I mean we can't all do
everything, we all have livesbut there's, there's a decorum
and I can tell people that.
You know there have been peoplethat are apologetic when they
have to leave early.
I tend to be one of thosepeople because I don't like to
do it, but you know, sometimesyou got to get onto the next
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thing.
Speaker 1 (18:59):
Yeah, sometimes you have to, but I think that if you
, you'll get more out of it ifyou put more into it.
Speaker 2 (19:06):
You know, and that includes the support and the
being there and the camaraderie-and there's a lot of networking
and a sense of community thatcomes with that kind of thing.
And I mean I can't count howmany times I've been booked just
because I was hanging out andjust struck up a conversation
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with somebody.
I mean that's often how stufflike that happens in standup.
So yeah, it definitely behoovesanybody to be engaged in the
overall production.
Don't just show up for yourstuff and then leave.
You know.
Speaker 1 (19:41):
Yeah, you'll definitely get more out of it.
All right, speaking of, let'smove on to your favorite rooms.
Now.
I know that your place.
Now I don't know, do you have afavorite room in your place now
?
Speaker 2 (19:54):
I don't know that I have a favorite room.
This is a.
We live in an apartment now soit's relatively small, but I
think my favorite thing it's inthis hand, but I would be a bad
weather lady.
Speaker 1 (20:07):
This hand Okay.
Speaker 2 (20:08):
This wall right here was one of my requirements, for
anywhere we live, I have to havea gallery wall.
I got very spoiled at my oldhouse because we had cathedral
ceilings and I had these bigwalls that I had to cover and I
had a massive collection ofpaintings and artwork that I had
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just like picked up at thriftstores or at you know,
secondhand shops on vacations,going, antiquing, stuff like
that.
So I had just collected a lotand I had a lot to cover the
walls with.
So I did, and I just lovedhaving my little collections all
over the place.
But, like I said, we did havethe downsize, so I had to pare
down to my favorite things.
(20:52):
But what you see on the wallbehind me are all of my favorite
pieces that I've retained andmany of them have stories.
I'll take you on a quick.
Yes, let's, let's check outsome of them.
All right, let's see.
Here we go.
All right, so, and I can tellyou where I got a lot of these.
Most of them were thrift storesand stuff, but you'll see, a
lot of them are kind of likelandscapy.
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Yes, this, this one behind me,that right there, that's the
coliseum.
We actually got that in romeand I would also have, um, a
painting of the vestal, whateverbuilding things that were down
there, but we left it in the cabin Italy.
So so some nice patron in Romegot a free, an amazing souvenir.
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Yeah, the other thing is, thisis my cow behind me.
She doesn't really have a name,she's just pretty moo cow, but
that was one of the firstpaintings that Eric bought me
when we moved to Birmingham.
There was like a littlesecondhand shop there and a lady
was selling that painting forway too cheap.
She had no idea what it wasworth.
(22:01):
So I have it now.
But, yeah, so all of thesepaintings and they're just
things that I've gotten on tripsor things that people have
given to me this mirror behindme, a little sparkling baby sham
.
Oh, I just thought it was cool.
Speaker 1 (22:21):
Yeah, it's very cool.
Speaker 2 (22:24):
That's so fun.
Speaker 1 (22:24):
Yeah, that's my favorite room in my house is
just wherever my gallery wall isyou know, I think that's
interesting because when you getright down to it, the stuff
doesn't really matter.
But all of those things are allrelated to memories.
You know, that's all likememories for you, experiences
(22:44):
that you've had.
That's what it's all about, soI think that's super cool.
Speaker 2 (22:49):
Yeah, I'm not the only one that does this.
While I'm taking you through atour of all my junk, Look at
this.
I got that typeset tray forlike $7 at an antique shop
somewhere in Indiana, I thinkand then, over the years, Eric
and I have just filled it upwith all of our little
tchotchkes and nonsense.
(23:09):
Yeah, just like you know howlike boys like to pick up rocks
yes, that's my husband is thatboy.
This thing is full of rocks,all kinds of rocks and stuff I
Kristen this is the truest fact.
Stuff I on person this is thetruest fact.
(23:32):
I did not know that my husbandcollected rocks for like the
first 10 years of our marriage,I haven't married.
No, I just always would findrocks like on the counter or
something and I would be like,okay, there, I guess, and he was
picking them up intentionallybecause he just thought it was a
neat rock.
Speaker 1 (23:50):
Oh well, you know, there's worse things, I guess.
Speaker 2 (23:55):
Yeah, yeah, totally.
I mean I don't begrudge anyhappiness for it, but for me,
the untrained rocker at the time, I was like I don't understand
why you want to carry around apocket of pea gravel every day.
It just doesn't make sense.
Exactly, I would be the same.
Speaker 1 (24:07):
I don't understand why you want to carry around a
pocket of pea gravel every day.
It just doesn't Exactly.
I would be the same.
I don't know.
I don't have a goodappreciation for minerals.
Is what it comes down to.
Speaker 2 (24:15):
My appreciation has grown, but I certainly didn't
get it at first.
Speaker 1 (24:19):
Yes, yes.
Well, that's good.
That's good that you guys havecome together on this.
All right Favorite room toperform in.
Speaker 2 (24:28):
Oh, wow, wow, Wow, wow, that's.
That's a good question, morethan one answer.
Let me think, let me think, letme think.
I think it doesn't really haveto do with where the room is.
It's about the chemistry in theroom, amongst the audience and
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the performers who are there.
So the best times that I've hadbecause you know, I've
performed multiple times in thesame room and I'll have a bad
set in that room or I'll have agood set in that room, but the
times when I have a good set,there's usually like the common
denominator is the people that Iam in the room with.
So uh, to give you a non-answer,my favorite room to do comedy
(25:16):
in is the room where all thepeople who are having fun are in
oh, that's a very goodnon-answer.
Speaker 1 (25:23):
Can you think of one or two shows where it really
clicked?
Ooh.
Speaker 2 (25:32):
That was a really great experience.
Yeah, actually, jason Santiago.
He does a show at House ofComedy called Pick your Punch
and it's a thing where you go upto perform but everybody
submits random punchlines andyou have to pepper them into
your set as part of the game,Like whoever does the most
punchlines or does the best jobor whatever, gets to headline
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the next show.
And I did that one and I had somuch fun that I couldn't stop
doing the game part.
When it came time to do myheadlining set, I went back and
headlined and I was stillplaying the game.
I just wrote down thesuggestions from everybody else
and then just kept playingbecause it was so much fun.
I mean, it was just having funfor me, I thought that was
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amazing and on that note I willsay um Lou moon's act out, which
is at the bridge improv theaterin Mesa, I think it is.
That's another one.
It's like a combo standup andimprov, so it's like two.
Like a standup, we'll do there10 minutes or so and then the
improv team will do like 10minutes of scenes on the
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previous standup thing.
So it was just so much fun, notonly as a performer, to watch
the improv team pull bits out ofyour set to like do the improv
scene, but it was also way moreengaging as an audience member
when you know like makes youlisten a little bit harder
because you're like oh okay,they're going to use stuff from
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this to like play into the nextthing and I want to be able to
understand what's going on.
So for that reason it was anincredible show.
The energy was awesome.
The creative spirit of thewhole thing was great.
Speaker 1 (27:10):
That sounds like such a fun idea.
Speaker 2 (27:12):
It really is.
It was so cool.
I love any kind of mashup ofimprov and standup.
It's always best comedians cando both.
Speaker 1 (27:23):
Are they still doing that show?
The actor show.
Speaker 2 (27:26):
Yeah, I think Lou Moon does his once a month, I
believe.
Wow, and then I can't rememberwhat I said.
The other one was, I don't know, I think that might have been a
one-off the Pick your Punch.
Oh, no, no, no, yeah.
Pick your Punch, yeah, that'san ongoing one.
So yeah, jason's show at Houseof Comedy.
I believe that's once a monthor so.
Oh, izzy just came out.
Speaker 1 (27:47):
That's the frustrating thing is there's so
many cool shows all around.
I know that no one ever knowsabout.
Speaker 2 (27:55):
I just wrote on Facebook the other day that I
just one of the hardest thingsabout doing comedy here is that
there is always something goingon like a quality show going on,
and I've got so many friendsand I know you do too that was
like I wish I could have a cloneso I could go to all of them
and support all of them, becauseI I just love what everybody's
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doing, but you know we only haveso many hours in the day, it's
so annoying yeah, there's onlyone of us.
Speaker 1 (28:23):
So annoying Well, that's cool.
Yeah, I do so.
Annoying well, that's cool.
Yeah, I do wish there was a waythat people, especially like
non people who aren't in the inthe comedy community, like
audience members who just wantto see comedy, could know about
more of these types of shows,because anybody that I know who
have turned on to local comedy,they love it they just compared
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to the big.
Speaker 2 (28:44):
You know where you pay big dollars and you go to an
arena or something like that,they tend to say this is so much
more fun.
It's an indescribable energyand a chemistry amongst the
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people in the room that can'tever be replicated or repeated,
and that is what makes itspecial.
It's just this fleeting,elusive thing.
We're making sandcastles.
Every time we do a show.
It's like you know this isgoing to last forever.
Let's just enjoy it while it'shere.
Speaker 1 (29:25):
That's such a great analogy for it because it does
it's gone Once the show's overit while it's here.
That's such a great analogy forit because it does it's, it's,
it's gone once the show's over,it's gone.
You know, even if somebodytakes a recording, maybe put it,
puts it out on the socials,it's not the same at all.
Speaker 2 (29:37):
No, not at all I yeah , I don't.
I find it hard to watch my ownvideos, not just because I was
already there and I already knowwhat I said, but also the thing
of like I hate watching myselfmyself.
But yeah, it's not the same.
I'm like this does not feel thesame as I felt when I delivered
it and when I heard all of thelaughter in the room, you know.
Speaker 1 (29:58):
Yeah, that's the thing.
That energy that's there.
Yeah, yeah, it's cool stuff.
All right, we're going to moveon to our next segment, which is
the real estate rundown.
All right, now I don't know ifI'm just curious, because now
you're not in the home ownergame Like you're, you're just
divorced from that whole thing.
Do you even care?
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Do you even like listen to anyreal estate news?
Like, do you have any clue?
Like, if I said what?
What do you think the interestrates are right now?
Would you even have a guess?
Speaker 2 (30:31):
Um, I would not have a guess.
Uh, now, eric, on the otherhand, that's kind of his
wheelhouse, he's he's the onethat pays attention to those
details, do I?
When I?
When you say, pay attention tothe market?
That's so funny, because whenyou say that you're talking
about, like interest rates andfinancial things, and I'm
talking about like, oh, thatcute house on the corners for
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sale, I want to go look at it.
I just want to be nosy and lookat people's houses.
That's my idea of the market.
Speaker 1 (30:59):
Keeping up with it, yeah, so what's your take?
What's your take on the wholething?
Speaker 2 (31:08):
Where are the cute houses?
Yeah, your take what.
What are you?
What's your take on the wholething?
I mean, where are the cutehouses?
Yeah, well, oh, the cute housesare in downtown phoenix, like
the historic roosevelt road,that historic willow
neighborhood.
Like my dad and I, we went and,just for funsies, looked at a
house over there that was forlease.
It was the cutest, stinkingthing.
The thing was built probably inthe mid twenties.
Um, the doorbell when you openthe door you could turn it and
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it made a noise like a bicycle,like, oh, wow, and had the
little like window that you openinstead of a people.
It was like it's a littlespeakeasy thing.
Yeah, all of the littlearchitectural details in those
old houses, like a little placefor your telephone to sit, you
know, wow, yeah, yeah, but itwas so charming and that's the
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kind of house like.
If we ever did move in to anold house again, it would have
to be one of those.
That just was so just had somuch charm and history and
architectural detail that youjust couldn't resist it.
Um, because otherwise just tomove into, like you know, an old
box, cutter bungalow orwhatever, all I could focus on
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would be like how much dust isin the corner that won't ever
come up, right you're in basic70s ranch.
Speaker 1 (32:23):
yeah, avocado green, which I don't know if you ever
find one of those 70 houses 100%preserved.
They're actually kind of cooltoo when you walk into the
kitchen and it looks like it'sfrom the Brady Bunch or
something.
Speaker 2 (32:36):
Yeah, it has to be preserved.
It has to be pristine still.
Yeah, we don't want that wornin.
Look.
Speaker 1 (32:44):
But not like no one's ever cared about this house and
it's just sad and yeah that'snot the same.
I feel like my house is inbetween that.
It's there's like so manyprojects.
That's the thing.
A house is just work.
So yeah, it's never in this dolist and it's maddening.
Speaker 2 (33:01):
If you don't like to do things Like I, you know I
want to be a person who can dogardening and nurture plants and
stuff like that, but I've beenat this for 42, almost 43 years.
I don't have a green thumb.
It just ain't for me.
Speaker 1 (33:23):
You're just accepting that fact about yourself.
Speaker 2 (33:26):
Right, right.
So it's like I don't have toworry about landscaping anymore.
I don't have to worry about ifthe sprinkler system has sprung
a leak again.
I don't have to worry aboutreplacing the tree that got
blown down in the last monsoonbecause the HOA says we have to
have a tree in the yard.
Speaker 1 (33:47):
Right.
Speaker 2 (33:48):
You know I don't have to deal with any of that, so
that's nice.
I quite enjoy that yeah.
Speaker 1 (33:54):
Yes, yes, yeah.
I think that going forwardthere's going to be more of
these homes, whether you rent orbuy, that are going to be the
higher density.
So either townhomes or condos.
I lived here long enough to seethe changing of the downtown
areas.
I mean, most of them used to beplaces where you just make sure
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your doors are locked when youdrive through.
They were really scary, but nowthey're becoming like the
downtown Phoenix area.
That used to be nothing and nowit's pretty vibrant.
Maybe not the best downtownyou're ever going to come across
, but it's getting there.
Speaker 2 (34:31):
It's fun.
I mean it's definitely beengentrified but it's still a
downtown area.
As you know, I live in theRoosevelt Arts District.
I love it.
It is just a joy to walk aroundand see murals and street art
and a you know, a lot ofindependent restaurants and
stuff, because I've gotten towhere I've like, turned my nose
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up at chain restaurants, youknow, and breweries and just a
lot of like sidewalk cafeculture.
I would call it.
Walking around is just reallyfun.
In the burbs you have to bevery intentional about if you
want to walk somewhere becauseyou're far away from everything.
But here it's nice, you canjust walk outside, walk around
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the block.
I'm sick of walking around theblock.
Okay, I'm going home now.
Speaker 1 (35:17):
Right, yeah, exactly, you have to drive somewhere.
If you live in like Gilbert,you have to go drive somewhere
to walk around.
It's not quite the sameexperience as walking at your
front door.
I'm curious if you find thatyou're meeting people in the
community like does it feel likeit's an actual community there?
Yeah, absolutely.
Speaker 2 (35:38):
Again, because we are on foot a lot, we go places
that are within walking distanceand since we're there a lot, we
have befriended the staff.
We're regulars over at PedalHouse, so they just bring us our
drinks.
They don't even ask us beforethey say hi.
So that's like really, reallyfun for me.
That's awesome, yeah.
And then there's people that wejust see who live around here,
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and we see them on the streetand we say hi and I, of course,
have the dog and so walking,walking the dogs we have dog
friends who we see up there andyou know ones that izzy likes to
say hello to and all that goodstuff.
But yeah, I do.
I do feel a sense of communitydown here.
It's really nice.
Speaker 1 (36:17):
I think people are really looking for that these
days.
Speaker 2 (36:20):
You know, people want to feel like they belong to a
community well, yeah, and I wasgoing to ask you, since we were
talking about real estaterundown um, um and Estrella like
I noticed, one of the thingsthat I had never seen before I
moved there were the what arethey called?
Next gen homes?
Oh yeah, multigenerationalliving arrangements where you
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essentially have one house butthere's a wing of it that is
locked off privately, somethingakin to like a mother-in-law
suite or something like that,but it's designed with the
intention of like, if you haveelderly parents who need to come
live with you, or if you havegrown children who maybe have
special needs or are intransition and don't have
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housing or whatever, then that'sa place for them to land.
I'm curious to know from you,as a realtor, how popular are
those?
Speaker 1 (37:15):
Very popular.
Speaker 2 (37:18):
With rising rates, how attainable is homeownership
for the average bear anymore?
I don't know.
I mean, I got started early, soI already was over the hump.
But is that a realisticprospect for people who are
maybe in their twenties rightnow?
Are they going to have enoughmoney to buy a home, or is
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multi-generational living goingto be their reality?
Speaker 1 (37:43):
I think it's a little bit of each.
I think the multi-generationalis becoming.
It used to be.
No one, nobody had that.
Nobody's mom lived with them.
It just wasn't the way ourculture is.
But now you're seeing that morecombined households because it
is so expensive think are geniusand there's one builder in
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particular who kind of sort ofchampion those.
But now other builders are kindof following suit with a
similar setup because it's notthe same as having, like, a
mother-in-law suite where it'sall together.
Those next gens are actually aseparate like you can lock that
door they have their own garage.
Sometimes they even have theirown backyard.
Yeah, it's like a really greatsetup, and so you can use it for
multi-gen or people rent themout too.
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You know that's the other thingis to get a little income to
help make that payment.
Speaker 2 (38:35):
Yeah.
Speaker 1 (38:35):
So I think that's one way and I think the other is
people who are just starting outwith their first home.
You know, and it's probablyfrom just the social media
Kardashian sort of mentalitywhere you want to have this
Pinterest house right out of thegate, yeah, but it's hard
because they're expensive.
So if you can say, well, I justwant to get like a little
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townhome or a little fixer-upperhouse and put some equity in
there and, you know, work up theladder like most people do,
then you can still do it.
You know, but you might not getyour perfect house right out of
the right out of the gate.
Speaker 2 (39:11):
But yeah, I don't know anybody that gets the
perfect house out of a starterhome.
Exactly I'll.
I will say this anybody outthere that's watching if you
want to get a starter home andyou want to make the most of it,
learn how to do some things inthe DIY realm, how to fix stuff,
because that you will pay outthe nose to have a tradesman or
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you know any other kind of likefinishing professional come in
and do that kind of work,because most people don't know
how to do it and it's not hard.
It is something people can dothemselves.
I mean, if you have thefortitude to sit there and watch
a YouTube video, you can figureit out.
You can do it on your own.
Speaker 1 (39:51):
It makes a huge difference.
Yeah, it's absolutely true.
But the counter to that iseveryone's working like two,
three jobs, so you don't havetime and you got to find that
balance somewhere in there.
Exactly you can't just work allthe time too.
Yeah Well, this was really fun.
I really liked this Me too.
(40:11):
What is coming up for you.
What do you got coming up inthe future here?
Speaker 2 (40:16):
Oh wow, let's see.
You know, I do our crack-upsworkshops for aspiring stand-up
comedians at whole skill levelsevery Monday night in downtown I
miss it too.
Speaker 1 (40:27):
I will be back.
Yes, I have my punch card.
I still have.
Speaker 2 (40:30):
Yeah, yeah, don't throw that away.
I just got busy so I'll be back.
Yeah, yeah, I get you, I getyou.
In addition to that, I've beenhosting game shows at game show
battle rooms in Chandler, whichis fun and it's a thing most
people have not heard of.
It's like the new experienceroom.
It's not an escape room, it'snot ax throwing, it's game shows
(40:52):
.
We're doing game shows now.
Yeah, and it's a ton of fun.
It really is.
And then of course, I alwayshave standup stuff going on.
Of course I'm drawing a blankon when my next performance is
Tonight.
I'll be with Mystery MansionDinner Theater.
Oh, you're still doing thedinner theater.
Speaker 1 (41:10):
Where is that at Where's where's that?
Speaker 2 (41:13):
That'll be at Maggiano's in Scottsdale.
It's not always at Maggiano's,but it's typically there.
Speaker 1 (41:21):
Maggiano's.
So you are you part of a troopthat goes to different
restaurants, or is it always thesame venue?
Speaker 2 (41:27):
Yeah, yeah, so Mystery Mansion, they're what
you call a pipe and drapecompany.
So in the old tradition oftroubadours taking their stuff
around with them and setting upcamp and then doing a pop-up
show, that's what they do.
So Maggiano's is a venue wherethey do that a lot.
They also do it at Babbo andScottsdale and we've done one at
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um, oh, got talking stickresort, which that one was nice,
the catering was pretty good,yeah, but yeah, it sounds
amazing.
Speaker 1 (41:58):
Yeah well, thanks again for being on the show.
Speaker 2 (42:01):
It's good to catch up with you.
Speaker 1 (42:03):
I love to catch up in person too, but hey, if this is
what we got to do, this is whatwe got to do this is what we
got to do.
Speaker 2 (42:08):
Hey, I'll take it.
I'll take any kind of Kristen,I can get Same here A little.
Speaker 1 (42:12):
Saskia always makes the day a little bit brighter.
Look for Saskia at Crack Up'sComedy Night, Game Show, Battle
Rooms, the Mystery MansionDinner Theater and be sure to
follow her on the socials.
See you next time at az laughsand listings.
Hello and welcome to Arizona Laughs and Listings, the
podcast where fun and funnyfolks get together and talk
about real estate and comedy twocompletely unrelated topics
that go surprisingly welltogether.
I'm your host, kristen LeVanway, a real estate agent here in
the Phoenix metro area for 19years, as well as a local
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stand-up comedian.
Today, I'm chatting with SaskiaB, a human comedian.
She's smart, she's funny, she'ssassy.
She's an experienced home buyerand seller and a thrift store
art collector.
I am so excited to have youjoining me today, saskia.
Speaker 2 (00:43):
Me too.
Hi, kristen, it's always apleasure.
You know you're my favoriterealtor I've ever had.
Oh I appreciate that.
Speaker 1 (00:52):
I appreciate that so much.
Yes, and you are in my definitetop 10 of clients, you and Eric
.
So it's a mutual admirationsociety here right now.
I love it.
It was a fun project workingwith you, but we're here to talk
about bigger and better things,because I'm amazed at how well
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these two topics go togethercomedy and real estate.
So that's what we're all abouthere.
So let's start off with who isSaskia?
What's the deal Like?
What do people want to knowabout you?
Speaker 2 (01:30):
I don't know what they want to know.
I think the number one questionis where did the name come from
?
Saskia, and I have a joke aboutit and I won't tell it on your
podcast because I don't know ifthis is a family program.
But um, the long story of it,long story short is it's a Dutch
(01:50):
name.
It does not have any bearing on, like it's not a family name,
and I am, in fact, not a Dutchperson you're not.
Speaker 1 (01:58):
I actually am Dutch, but I have a regular name.
I don't have a Dutch first name.
I had a Dutch maiden name, vanValkenburg.
Speaker 2 (02:07):
Oh wow, my maiden name is Badgewell and I think it
does not get more English thanthat, which, strangely, people
had a lot of trouble with.
I was like it's notfundamentally any harder than
doghouse but, people cannot yeah, it's a compound word, right.
Speaker 1 (02:23):
Two words joined together, right?
I mean, obviously you're acomedian, yeah.
Speaker 2 (02:29):
I'm a comedian.
Um, I have been doing likeentertainment adjacent stuff
probably my whole life.
I grew up in Orlando, florida,and in Orlando my dad worked as
an actor and a singer and acasting agent and did all kinds
of entertainment stuff and I wasjust kind of hanging out on set
(02:52):
sometimes.
Or you know, for a lot of yearshe did dinner theater at Fort
Wilderness at Disney World.
So for several years he playedMarshall Matt Dillon in the
dinner theater show there and sothat I kind of grew up there
and it's fun, because I actuallydo mystery dinner theater now
(03:16):
as a grown-up.
Speaker 1 (03:17):
So yeah, I can see your dad being Matt Dillon.
He's a pretty cool dude.
I'm glad I got to meet him.
Speaker 2 (03:25):
He's a really real cool guy.
Yeah, he's fun, um, but yeah, Ithink just being around that
growing up was impactful, um,and it probably doesn't hurt
that.
My parents did put me in actingschool when I was like 10 years
old, and I think part of thatwas because I was painfully shy
(03:45):
and nobody would know that aboutme.
Now I don't think, but at thetime I think they were like oh,
she's weird, we should dosomething about it.
Yeah.
Speaker 1 (03:55):
I think that's interesting because I'm also
very shy and I also think peopledon't realize that.
But even now I you know, Idon't know about you, but I
still have some like anxiety andstuff, just from being oh yeah,
I, I'm riddled with anxiety.
Uh, I just am not shy about itanymore, I guess yeah, you can
put on a face, I mean, you canpretend like you're not, I guess
(04:18):
, but it's.
It's funny how many people Ithink in comedy are not really
socially outward.
They're, you know, they're shy.
Speaker 2 (04:27):
Well, yeah, I mean, if you think about it, it's you
know, there are a lot of peopledo comedy for a lot of different
reasons, I would say.
Or they start for differentreasons and they tend to fall
into like two categories.
One is because they are acreative soul.
They're just an artist, they'rea person that has to do
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creative undertakings, no matterwhether it's, you know,
painting or singing or dancingor whatever it is.
And then there's people who doit because, um, I think they're
probably just egomaniacs.
To be honest.
Um, I'm not saying that, behonest, I'm not saying that
there's not a touch ofegomaniacal elements to the
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personality of anybody whostarts it for more legitimate
reasons.
Speaker 1 (05:14):
But yeah, I think I see your point.
Some people need a lot ofattention and some people don't
want the attention, which isweird.
It's kind of counterintuitivewhen you think about going on
stage but you don't want theattention, which is weird.
It's kind of counterintuitivewhen you think about going on
stage, but you don't really wantattention.
Yeah, there's a lot of peoplethat fall into that category.
Speaker 2 (05:32):
Well, yeah, I mean, I think it's the difference in
artistry between people that getup on stage and don't really
have anything to say.
They don't have anything totalk about, they don't have a
unique point of view.
I think one of the things thatI gripe most vocally about is
like open mic culture, whereit's a lot of young guys and
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they're learning and they're newand they're getting out there
and they're doing it, but itkind of turns into a little bit
of an echo chamber where, ifit's like everybody at the show
has the same point of view, thenwhat's fun about that?
Speaker 1 (06:07):
that's just not that interesting yeah, I hear what
you're saying.
It takes a time.
It takes a time for you to findyour voice.
I've heard sometimes 10 yearsbefore you really figure out
what it is you want to talkabout.
So you know when you're juststarting out.
I guess we have to.
You get to give them a littlegrace, navigating, so they'll
move on from the, the standardjokes that all the that's the
(06:30):
great hope.
Uh, some of them do, some ofthem don't, that's true, but you
know what, as long as they'regetting what they want out of it
, then it's cool.
Let's move on to our nextsegment, which I like to call
your first.
Next segment, which I like tocall your first, and so I love
to.
I love to hear about people'sfirst house and their first
comedy show.
(06:50):
You can start in any order youlike, okay.
Speaker 2 (06:54):
So, as you know, my husband and I we've owned many
homes over the course of ourmarriage and our first one was
this was technically his house,but we we became married while
we were living there and it wasa little tiny, I think, like a
post-work cottage in Tuscaloosa,alabama, in a little old
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neighborhood that at one pointin history was just young
families and then over the yearspeople aged out and then the
college campus there got a lotbigger, so a lot of it turned
into campus housing.
But at the time when we livedthere it was still mostly the
old neighborhood folks that werestill living there.
Speaker 1 (07:40):
What's the time frame ?
The circa of the neighborhood.
Speaker 2 (07:43):
I would say that house was probably built in the
40s.
Okay, I don't know for sure, Idon't really remember all the
details of it, but it was anolder home and to this day, eric
says when he has nightmares, hehas nightmares about that house
.
It's the thing of like, oh God,what's going to break next on
this thing?
What are we going to do?
(08:04):
We're going to have to dig upthe backyard to deal with the
plumbing.
We're going to have to replacethe roof.
We're going to get a new ACunit, like it's just.
You know, with an old house,it's always something Right.
Speaker 1 (08:14):
It's not the fondest of memories in that house.
Speaker 2 (08:18):
It sounds like yeah, but it was a great first house.
He bought it from hisgrandmother for not a lot of
money but, yeah, it was a greatplace for us to dwell.
And I like to say that I turnedit into a home yeah, because
before I moved in he was livingthere with his cousin and it was
gross.
(08:39):
Oh too much like bachelor padit was very bachelor pad.
The man did not have furniturebefore I got to him, it was just
a bed and a big old Tupperwarebin that he was using as a
hammer.
Speaker 1 (08:51):
That's sad.
Speaker 2 (08:52):
That's just sad it was it was.
He was like I don't really likethis house and I walked in
there.
I was like, yeah, why would youRight how little you have in
here?
Speaker 1 (09:02):
Yeah, it's always a woman's touch.
Yeah, it always helps.
It always helps, unless you'relucky in one of those.
I don't know, I'm not a verygood designer.
My house because I raised allboys, so it's not bachelor pad
but it's maybe bachelorpad-esque, Even though they
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moved out.
Speaker 2 (09:23):
it's like you get into that rut.
Speaker 1 (09:24):
It's probably more good on being sanitary than
being decorative Well andindestructible, you know yeah
yeah, durability accounts whatcan they not break?
Speaker 2 (09:31):
yeah, um, but no, it was.
Yeah, that was our first houseand it was just a darling little
thing.
But now that we have lived inbigger houses and went you know
we like got big houses for aminute there and now we have
scaled back down and are livingin the same size floor plan that
we were when we first started,but we love it.
(09:51):
Yeah, we don't need that muchspace, and I think that's the
big takeaway after a lot ofyears of owning homes is that we
just don't need all of that,right, it's a lot Because you
end up just collecting a bunchof stuff that you're like, why
do I have all this stuff?
Yeah, yeah, oh yeah, at the endof us moving away from the
biggest house that we lived in,we had to downsize considerably
(10:15):
and I gave away like an entirelike gym's worth of gym
equipment, and Eric gave awaylike an entire like landscaping
units worth of yard tools andmowers and stuff like that.
Yeah, but it's like, what areyou going to do?
You can't drag it around theworld with you, I mean you don't
need a lawnmower in Arizona.
Speaker 1 (10:34):
So Not always, not always so.
The house that you were in inEstrella Mountain Ranch, that
was already a downsized.
Speaker 2 (10:46):
Yeah, that was.
That was about half the size ofthe house that we came from Um,
and the reason why we had sucha big house prior to that was
because we bought it right afterthat.
That fun little real estatebubble burst picked it up as a
foreclosure in 2008, 2009,something like that.
So I mean, we, we bought thisgiant house for not a lot of
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money and you know, I'm sure wewere like the first wave of
riffraff in the neighborhood,but people giving you the side
eye hey.
Yeah, because we made friendswith all of our other cool
neighbors and we all.
This was like a golf cartneighborhood where everybody had
golf carts so we would justparty on the golf carts, like in
the neighborhood, just likebecause there was only one way
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in, one way out was no traffic.
That was just our own little,our own little like giant
cul-de-sac in the woods kind ofthing.
Um, but yeah, we had a blastliving out there.
Speaker 1 (11:42):
Well, that sounds fun .
Speaker 2 (11:44):
Yeah, yeah.
But was heating and cooling allof that worth it?
Was carrying all that stufffrom house to house, I don't
know, maybe it is.
That's just what you do in life, I guess.
Speaker 1 (11:56):
Yeah, I mean, maybe you do it so that you can
appreciate the smaller houseagain, Like I don't know
Everyone dreams of it.
You dream of having the bighouse, the big yard, and then
you get it and you're like, oh,this is a lot of work.
Speaker 2 (12:09):
Yeah, that's what it is.
It's a lot of work and nobodytells you about those pitfalls
of homeownership.
You know it might be differentnow, but when Eric and I were
growing up it was like stillvery much the like Reagan era
American dream.
You want to be a homeowner, asmall business owner, nuclear
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family, all of those things.
So we were.
It was just kind of a a giventhat we would be homeowners.
It was like, yeah, of courseyou're going to be a homeowner.
Speaker 1 (12:37):
Why wouldn't you that's?
Speaker 2 (12:38):
what employed people do?
They buy homes, and so we did.
We bought a bunch of them andwe had a vacation place at the
beach for a little while, andthat was awesome too.
So I will say that getting intohome ownership was an overall
good thing for us, because weended up making money over the
years by doing nothing more thanjust signing our name on paper,
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you know, and just waiting forthe market to do its thing, and
we made out pretty well, when Iknow some others didn't.
But we also don't have kids.
So that's a big part of ourability to kind of come and go
and make those moves, because wedon't have the anxiety that a
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young family would have where wehave to think about our school
system and, you know, all ofthose kinds of considerations.
We're just just twofreewheeling folks and if we
find somewhere we want to move,we move there.
Speaker 1 (13:36):
Yeah, that's awesome, but it is a good point you
raised.
The home ownership is a greatway for for just the average Joe
to build wealth, and that's onething I'm concerned about is I
feel like it's going to beharder going down, you know, in
future generations for that tohappen it will be because, if
you're working back to thebeginning of the tale, remember
my husband bought that firsthouse from his grandmother for a
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very, very below market price.
Speaker 2 (14:09):
Below market price and without that kind of
generational generosity that alot of people are not going to
have to rely on, it'll be harderto get started, it wouldn't be
impossible, but we definitelywere fortunate because we had
that gift up front For sure.
Speaker 1 (14:21):
All right, First comedy show.
Speaker 2 (14:26):
Oh, okay, yeah, my first comedy show would have
been my graduation showcase forthe standup comedy class that I
took when I started at Stardomein Birmingham in 2018, I think,
maybe 2017.
I can't remember when I startedthe classes, but um, but yeah.
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So my first standup comedyengagement was at the little
side room called the Broadwayroom at the Stardome.
And it was just a little openmic show, but I felt like I did
pretty well.
I was well prepared.
You know, I took it seriously,um and yeah, yeah, it was great
and it was a really interestingplace to start a comedy path,
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because that that's not really acomedy city Birmingham they
have a comedy club, but that isthe entire presence of comedy in
that city.
There is no real scene.
Speaker 1 (15:22):
there it's not like the Alabama hotspot of comedy.
Speaker 2 (15:25):
No no, although strangely you know the only
other standup live.
We have a standup live here indowntown Phoenix.
The only other one is locatedin Huntsville, alabama.
Wow, I don't know why.
I don't know why, but I actuallyyeah, I went to it when it
first opened.
It was in a repurposed Chineserestaurant, so it was still very
(15:50):
Chinese restaurant on theoutside when I went there.
But Huntsville is one of thosestrange places where, like I
know, alabama has like the worstsocial cultural reputation in
the nation, but Huntsvillepeople forget.
Nasa is in Huntsville andRedstone Arsenal is in
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Huntsville, so there is a lot ofarmory and industrial and
aerospace tech that's centeredright there.
So it's like you just have thisbizarre population of geniuses
in the middle of Huntsville.
It's a strange place, but Iimagine that's why the comedy
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club is able to thrive.
There is because there isactually a pocket of people that
you know they're looking forsomething.
Yeah, like the intellectualliberal arts.
Speaker 1 (16:42):
Yes, yeah, they like to laugh.
So even though you started backwhen you were 10 getting all
geared up for this career ofyours in performance arts, you
didn't actually get into comedyuntil fairly recently, right?
Speaker 2 (16:57):
yeah, I mean not in any kind of like official
capacity.
I always did, you know, dramaand stuff when I was in high
school and um, and then evenafter high school I still
maintained like a volunteerposition in local community
theater, although I did a lot ofbehind the scenes stuff at that
point.
Um, because theater is a verytime consuming.
Undertaking, um to be in aproduction requires a lot more
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of someone that than who is justdoing tech on a production,
because you have to be there forthe full run of the rehearsal
even if you're a nobody.
I mean, that's just the cultureof theater is everybody's there
at the beginning andeverybody's there at the end.
And I kind of bring thatsensibility into comedy with me,
which is why I'm probably alittle more stiff or maybe old
(17:46):
fashioned about the etiquettewhen you come into a performance
space, because it does botherme when people come in late and
then leave early if they're on ashow.
But that's the differencebetween standup and theater or
even improv, which is more teamsport oriented.
Um people tend to take libertieswith coming in and going out
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and I have always kind of had asensibility that we're, if we're
on a show, we are all operatingin service of the entire
production.
Speaker 1 (18:17):
It starts before people come in the door and if
you get a chance to produce ashow, then you learn about all
that stuff because it is.
It is very nerve wracking whenit's five minutes before it's
supposed to start and you'relike where, where are they?
And then, yeah, you should hangout and support your fellow
(18:37):
comedians.
Speaker 2 (18:38):
Yeah, yeah and it.
You know we can't always dothat I mean we can't all do
everything, we all have livesbut there's, there's a decorum
and I can tell people that.
You know there have been peoplethat are apologetic when they
have to leave early.
I tend to be one of thosepeople because I don't like to
do it, but you know, sometimesyou got to get onto the next
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thing.
Speaker 1 (18:59):
Yeah, sometimes you have to, but I think that if you
, you'll get more out of it ifyou put more into it.
Speaker 2 (19:06):
You know, and that includes the support and the
being there and the camaraderie-and there's a lot of networking
and a sense of community thatcomes with that kind of thing.
And I mean I can't count howmany times I've been booked just
because I was hanging out andjust struck up a conversation
(19:26):
with somebody.
I mean that's often how stufflike that happens in standup.
So yeah, it definitely behoovesanybody to be engaged in the
overall production.
Don't just show up for yourstuff and then leave.
You know.
Speaker 1 (19:41):
Yeah, you'll definitely get more out of it.
All right, speaking of, let'smove on to your favorite rooms.
Now.
I know that your place.
Now I don't know, do you have afavorite room in your place now
?
Speaker 2 (19:54):
I don't know that I have a favorite room.
This is a.
We live in an apartment now soit's relatively small, but I
think my favorite thing it's inthis hand, but I would be a bad
weather lady.
Speaker 1 (20:07):
This hand Okay.
Speaker 2 (20:08):
This wall right here was one of my requirements, for
anywhere we live, I have to havea gallery wall.
I got very spoiled at my oldhouse because we had cathedral
ceilings and I had these bigwalls that I had to cover and I
had a massive collection ofpaintings and artwork that I had
(20:31):
just like picked up at thriftstores or at you know,
secondhand shops on vacations,going, antiquing, stuff like
that.
So I had just collected a lotand I had a lot to cover the
walls with.
So I did, and I just lovedhaving my little collections all
over the place.
But, like I said, we did havethe downsize, so I had to pare
down to my favorite things.
(20:52):
But what you see on the wallbehind me are all of my favorite
pieces that I've retained andmany of them have stories.
I'll take you on a quick.
Yes, let's, let's check outsome of them.
All right, let's see.
Here we go.
All right, so, and I can tellyou where I got a lot of these.
Most of them were thrift storesand stuff, but you'll see, a
lot of them are kind of likelandscapy.
(21:14):
Yes, this, this one behind me,that right there, that's the
coliseum.
We actually got that in romeand I would also have, um, a
painting of the vestal, whateverbuilding things that were down
there, but we left it in the cabin Italy.
So so some nice patron in Romegot a free, an amazing souvenir.
(21:41):
Yeah, the other thing is, thisis my cow behind me.
She doesn't really have a name,she's just pretty moo cow, but
that was one of the firstpaintings that Eric bought me
when we moved to Birmingham.
There was like a littlesecondhand shop there and a lady
was selling that painting forway too cheap.
She had no idea what it wasworth.
(22:01):
So I have it now.
But, yeah, so all of thesepaintings and they're just
things that I've gotten on tripsor things that people have
given to me this mirror behindme, a little sparkling baby sham
.
Oh, I just thought it was cool.
Speaker 1 (22:21):
Yeah, it's very cool.
Speaker 2 (22:24):
That's so fun.
Speaker 1 (22:24):
Yeah, that's my favorite room in my house is
just wherever my gallery wall isyou know, I think that's
interesting because when you getright down to it, the stuff
doesn't really matter.
But all of those things are allrelated to memories.
You know, that's all likememories for you, experiences
(22:44):
that you've had.
That's what it's all about, soI think that's super cool.
Speaker 2 (22:49):
Yeah, I'm not the only one that does this.
While I'm taking you through atour of all my junk, Look at
this.
I got that typeset tray forlike $7 at an antique shop
somewhere in Indiana, I thinkand then, over the years, Eric
and I have just filled it upwith all of our little
tchotchkes and nonsense.
(23:09):
Yeah, just like you know howlike boys like to pick up rocks
yes, that's my husband is thatboy.
This thing is full of rocks,all kinds of rocks and stuff I
Kristen this is the truest fact.
Stuff I on person this is thetruest fact.
(23:32):
I did not know that my husbandcollected rocks for like the
first 10 years of our marriage,I haven't married.
No, I just always would findrocks like on the counter or
something and I would be like,okay, there, I guess, and he was
picking them up intentionallybecause he just thought it was a
neat rock.
Speaker 1 (23:50):
Oh well, you know, there's worse things, I guess.
Speaker 2 (23:55):
Yeah, yeah, totally.
I mean I don't begrudge anyhappiness for it, but for me,
the untrained rocker at the time, I was like I don't understand
why you want to carry around apocket of pea gravel every day.
It just doesn't make sense.
Exactly, I would be the same.
Speaker 1 (24:07):
I don't understand why you want to carry around a
pocket of pea gravel every day.
It just doesn't Exactly.
I would be the same.
I don't know.
I don't have a goodappreciation for minerals.
Is what it comes down to.
Speaker 2 (24:15):
My appreciation has grown, but I certainly didn't
get it at first.
Speaker 1 (24:19):
Yes, yes.
Well, that's good.
That's good that you guys havecome together on this.
All right Favorite room toperform in.
Speaker 2 (24:28):
Oh, wow, wow, Wow, wow, that's.
That's a good question, morethan one answer.
Let me think, let me think, letme think.
I think it doesn't really haveto do with where the room is.
It's about the chemistry in theroom, amongst the audience and
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the performers who are there.
So the best times that I've hadbecause you know, I've
performed multiple times in thesame room and I'll have a bad
set in that room or I'll have agood set in that room, but the
times when I have a good set,there's usually like the common
denominator is the people that Iam in the room with.
So uh, to give you a non-answer,my favorite room to do comedy
(25:16):
in is the room where all thepeople who are having fun are in
oh, that's a very goodnon-answer.
Speaker 1 (25:23):
Can you think of one or two shows where it really
clicked?
Ooh.
Speaker 2 (25:32):
That was a really great experience.
Yeah, actually, jason Santiago.
He does a show at House ofComedy called Pick your Punch
and it's a thing where you go upto perform but everybody
submits random punchlines andyou have to pepper them into
your set as part of the game,Like whoever does the most
punchlines or does the best jobor whatever, gets to headline
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the next show.
And I did that one and I had somuch fun that I couldn't stop
doing the game part.
When it came time to do myheadlining set, I went back and
headlined and I was stillplaying the game.
I just wrote down thesuggestions from everybody else
and then just kept playingbecause it was so much fun.
I mean, it was just having funfor me, I thought that was
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amazing and on that note I willsay um Lou moon's act out, which
is at the bridge improv theaterin Mesa, I think it is.
That's another one.
It's like a combo standup andimprov, so it's like two.
Like a standup, we'll do there10 minutes or so and then the
improv team will do like 10minutes of scenes on the
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previous standup thing.
So it was just so much fun, notonly as a performer, to watch
the improv team pull bits out ofyour set to like do the improv
scene, but it was also way moreengaging as an audience member
when you know like makes youlisten a little bit harder
because you're like oh okay,they're going to use stuff from
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this to like play into the nextthing and I want to be able to
understand what's going on.
So for that reason it was anincredible show.
The energy was awesome.
The creative spirit of thewhole thing was great.
Speaker 1 (27:10):
That sounds like such a fun idea.
Speaker 2 (27:12):
It really is.
It was so cool.
I love any kind of mashup ofimprov and standup.
It's always best comedians cando both.
Speaker 1 (27:23):
Are they still doing that show?
The actor show.
Speaker 2 (27:26):
Yeah, I think Lou Moon does his once a month, I
believe.
Wow, and then I can't rememberwhat I said.
The other one was, I don't know, I think that might have been a
one-off the Pick your Punch.
Oh, no, no, no, yeah.
Pick your Punch, yeah, that'san ongoing one.
So yeah, jason's show at Houseof Comedy.
I believe that's once a monthor so.
Oh, izzy just came out.
Speaker 1 (27:47):
That's the frustrating thing is there's so
many cool shows all around.
I know that no one ever knowsabout.
Speaker 2 (27:55):
I just wrote on Facebook the other day that I
just one of the hardest thingsabout doing comedy here is that
there is always something goingon like a quality show going on,
and I've got so many friendsand I know you do too that was
like I wish I could have a cloneso I could go to all of them
and support all of them, becauseI I just love what everybody's
(28:16):
doing, but you know we only haveso many hours in the day, it's
so annoying yeah, there's onlyone of us.
Speaker 1 (28:23):
So annoying Well, that's cool.
Yeah, I do so.
Annoying well, that's cool.
Yeah, I do wish there was a waythat people, especially like
non people who aren't in the inthe comedy community, like
audience members who just wantto see comedy, could know about
more of these types of shows,because anybody that I know who
have turned on to local comedy,they love it they just compared
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to the big.
Speaker 2 (28:44):
You know where you pay big dollars and you go to an
arena or something like that,they tend to say this is so much
more fun.
It's an indescribable energyand a chemistry amongst the
(29:08):
people in the room that can'tever be replicated or repeated,
and that is what makes itspecial.
It's just this fleeting,elusive thing.
We're making sandcastles.
Every time we do a show.
It's like you know this isgoing to last forever.
Let's just enjoy it while it'shere.
Speaker 1 (29:25):
That's such a great analogy for it because it does
it's gone Once the show's overit while it's here.
That's such a great analogy forit because it does it's, it's,
it's gone once the show's over,it's gone.
You know, even if somebodytakes a recording, maybe put it,
puts it out on the socials,it's not the same at all.
Speaker 2 (29:37):
No, not at all I yeah , I don't.
I find it hard to watch my ownvideos, not just because I was
already there and I already knowwhat I said, but also the thing
of like I hate watching myselfmyself.
But yeah, it's not the same.
I'm like this does not feel thesame as I felt when I delivered
it and when I heard all of thelaughter in the room, you know.
Speaker 1 (29:58):
Yeah, that's the thing.
That energy that's there.
Yeah, yeah, it's cool stuff.
All right, we're going to moveon to our next segment, which is
the real estate rundown.
All right, now I don't know ifI'm just curious, because now
you're not in the home ownergame Like you're, you're just
divorced from that whole thing.
Do you even care?
(30:20):
Do you even like listen to anyreal estate news?
Like, do you have any clue?
Like, if I said what?
What do you think the interestrates are right now?
Would you even have a guess?
Speaker 2 (30:31):
Um, I would not have a guess.
Uh, now, eric, on the otherhand, that's kind of his
wheelhouse, he's he's the onethat pays attention to those
details, do I?
When I?
When you say, pay attention tothe market?
That's so funny, because whenyou say that you're talking
about, like interest rates andfinancial things, and I'm
talking about like, oh, thatcute house on the corners for
(30:52):
sale, I want to go look at it.
I just want to be nosy and lookat people's houses.
That's my idea of the market.
Speaker 1 (30:59):
Keeping up with it, yeah, so what's your take?
What's your take on the wholething?
Speaker 2 (31:08):
Where are the cute houses?
Yeah, your take what.
What are you?
What's your take on the wholething?
I mean, where are the cutehouses?
Yeah, well, oh, the cute housesare in downtown phoenix, like
the historic roosevelt road,that historic willow
neighborhood.
Like my dad and I, we went and,just for funsies, looked at a
house over there that was forlease.
It was the cutest, stinkingthing.
The thing was built probably inthe mid twenties.
Um, the doorbell when you openthe door you could turn it and
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it made a noise like a bicycle,like, oh, wow, and had the
little like window that you openinstead of a people.
It was like it's a littlespeakeasy thing.
Yeah, all of the littlearchitectural details in those
old houses, like a little placefor your telephone to sit, you
know, wow, yeah, yeah, but itwas so charming and that's the
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kind of house like.
If we ever did move in to anold house again, it would have
to be one of those.
That just was so just had somuch charm and history and
architectural detail that youjust couldn't resist it.
Um, because otherwise just tomove into, like you know, an old
box, cutter bungalow orwhatever, all I could focus on
(32:15):
would be like how much dust isin the corner that won't ever
come up, right you're in basic70s ranch.
Speaker 1 (32:23):
yeah, avocado green, which I don't know if you ever
find one of those 70 houses 100%preserved.
They're actually kind of cooltoo when you walk into the
kitchen and it looks like it'sfrom the Brady Bunch or
something.
Speaker 2 (32:36):
Yeah, it has to be preserved.
It has to be pristine still.
Yeah, we don't want that wornin.
Look.
Speaker 1 (32:44):
But not like no one's ever cared about this house and
it's just sad and yeah that'snot the same.
I feel like my house is inbetween that.
It's there's like so manyprojects.
That's the thing.
A house is just work.
So yeah, it's never in this dolist and it's maddening.
Speaker 2 (33:01):
If you don't like to do things Like I, you know I
want to be a person who can dogardening and nurture plants and
stuff like that, but I've beenat this for 42, almost 43 years.
I don't have a green thumb.
It just ain't for me.
Speaker 1 (33:23):
You're just accepting that fact about yourself.
Speaker 2 (33:26):
Right, right.
So it's like I don't have toworry about landscaping anymore.
I don't have to worry about ifthe sprinkler system has sprung
a leak again.
I don't have to worry aboutreplacing the tree that got
blown down in the last monsoonbecause the HOA says we have to
have a tree in the yard.
Speaker 1 (33:47):
Right.
Speaker 2 (33:48):
You know I don't have to deal with any of that, so
that's nice.
I quite enjoy that yeah.
Speaker 1 (33:54):
Yes, yes, yeah.
I think that going forwardthere's going to be more of
these homes, whether you rent orbuy, that are going to be the
higher density.
So either townhomes or condos.
I lived here long enough to seethe changing of the downtown
areas.
I mean, most of them used to beplaces where you just make sure
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your doors are locked when youdrive through.
They were really scary, but nowthey're becoming like the
downtown Phoenix area.
That used to be nothing and nowit's pretty vibrant.
Maybe not the best downtownyou're ever going to come across
, but it's getting there.
Speaker 2 (34:31):
It's fun.
I mean it's definitely beengentrified but it's still a
downtown area.
As you know, I live in theRoosevelt Arts District.
I love it.
It is just a joy to walk aroundand see murals and street art
and a you know, a lot ofindependent restaurants and
stuff, because I've gotten towhere I've like, turned my nose
(34:52):
up at chain restaurants, youknow, and breweries and just a
lot of like sidewalk cafeculture.
I would call it.
Walking around is just reallyfun.
In the burbs you have to bevery intentional about if you
want to walk somewhere becauseyou're far away from everything.
But here it's nice, you canjust walk outside, walk around
(35:13):
the block.
I'm sick of walking around theblock.
Okay, I'm going home now.
Speaker 1 (35:17):
Right, yeah, exactly, you have to drive somewhere.
If you live in like Gilbert,you have to go drive somewhere
to walk around.
It's not quite the sameexperience as walking at your
front door.
I'm curious if you find thatyou're meeting people in the
community like does it feel likeit's an actual community there?
Yeah, absolutely.
Speaker 2 (35:38):
Again, because we are on foot a lot, we go places
that are within walking distanceand since we're there a lot, we
have befriended the staff.
We're regulars over at PedalHouse, so they just bring us our
drinks.
They don't even ask us beforethey say hi.
So that's like really, reallyfun for me.
That's awesome, yeah.
And then there's people that wejust see who live around here,
(35:59):
and we see them on the streetand we say hi and I, of course,
have the dog and so walking,walking the dogs we have dog
friends who we see up there andyou know ones that izzy likes to
say hello to and all that goodstuff.
But yeah, I do.
I do feel a sense of communitydown here.
It's really nice.
Speaker 1 (36:17):
I think people are really looking for that these
days.
Speaker 2 (36:20):
You know, people want to feel like they belong to a
community well, yeah, and I wasgoing to ask you, since we were
talking about real estaterundown um, um and Estrella like
I noticed, one of the thingsthat I had never seen before I
moved there were the what arethey called?
Next gen homes?
Oh yeah, multigenerationalliving arrangements where you
(36:45):
essentially have one house butthere's a wing of it that is
locked off privately, somethingakin to like a mother-in-law
suite or something like that,but it's designed with the
intention of like, if you haveelderly parents who need to come
live with you, or if you havegrown children who maybe have
special needs or are intransition and don't have
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housing or whatever, then that'sa place for them to land.
I'm curious to know from you,as a realtor, how popular are
those?
Speaker 1 (37:15):
Very popular.
Speaker 2 (37:18):
With rising rates, how attainable is homeownership
for the average bear anymore?
I don't know.
I mean, I got started early, soI already was over the hump.
But is that a realisticprospect for people who are
maybe in their twenties rightnow?
Are they going to have enoughmoney to buy a home, or is
(37:39):
multi-generational living goingto be their reality?
Speaker 1 (37:43):
I think it's a little bit of each.
I think the multi-generationalis becoming.
It used to be.
No one, nobody had that.
Nobody's mom lived with them.
It just wasn't the way ourculture is.
But now you're seeing that morecombined households because it
is so expensive think are geniusand there's one builder in
(38:09):
particular who kind of sort ofchampion those.
But now other builders are kindof following suit with a
similar setup because it's notthe same as having, like, a
mother-in-law suite where it'sall together.
Those next gens are actually aseparate like you can lock that
door they have their own garage.
Sometimes they even have theirown backyard.
Yeah, it's like a really greatsetup, and so you can use it for
multi-gen or people rent themout too.
(38:30):
You know that's the other thingis to get a little income to
help make that payment.
Speaker 2 (38:35):
Yeah.
Speaker 1 (38:35):
So I think that's one way and I think the other is
people who are just starting outwith their first home.
You know, and it's probablyfrom just the social media
Kardashian sort of mentalitywhere you want to have this
Pinterest house right out of thegate, yeah, but it's hard
because they're expensive.
So if you can say, well, I justwant to get like a little
(38:56):
townhome or a little fixer-upperhouse and put some equity in
there and, you know, work up theladder like most people do,
then you can still do it.
You know, but you might not getyour perfect house right out of
the right out of the gate.
Speaker 2 (39:11):
But yeah, I don't know anybody that gets the
perfect house out of a starterhome.
Exactly I'll.
I will say this anybody outthere that's watching if you
want to get a starter home andyou want to make the most of it,
learn how to do some things inthe DIY realm, how to fix stuff,
because that you will pay outthe nose to have a tradesman or
(39:35):
you know any other kind of likefinishing professional come in
and do that kind of work,because most people don't know
how to do it and it's not hard.
It is something people can dothemselves.
I mean, if you have thefortitude to sit there and watch
a YouTube video, you can figureit out.
You can do it on your own.
Speaker 1 (39:51):
It makes a huge difference.
Yeah, it's absolutely true.
But the counter to that iseveryone's working like two,
three jobs, so you don't havetime and you got to find that
balance somewhere in there.
Exactly you can't just work allthe time too.
Yeah Well, this was really fun.
I really liked this Me too.
(40:11):
What is coming up for you.
What do you got coming up inthe future here?
Speaker 2 (40:16):
Oh wow, let's see.
You know, I do our crack-upsworkshops for aspiring stand-up
comedians at whole skill levelsevery Monday night in downtown I
miss it too.
Speaker 1 (40:27):
I will be back.
Yes, I have my punch card.
I still have.
Speaker 2 (40:30):
Yeah, yeah, don't throw that away.
I just got busy so I'll be back.
Yeah, yeah, I get you, I getyou.
In addition to that, I've beenhosting game shows at game show
battle rooms in Chandler, whichis fun and it's a thing most
people have not heard of.
It's like the new experienceroom.
It's not an escape room, it'snot ax throwing, it's game shows
(40:52):
.
We're doing game shows now.
Yeah, and it's a ton of fun.
It really is.
And then of course, I alwayshave standup stuff going on.
Of course I'm drawing a blankon when my next performance is
Tonight.
I'll be with Mystery MansionDinner Theater.
Oh, you're still doing thedinner theater.
Speaker 1 (41:10):
Where is that at Where's where's that?
Speaker 2 (41:13):
That'll be at Maggiano's in Scottsdale.
It's not always at Maggiano's,but it's typically there.
Speaker 1 (41:21):
Maggiano's.
So you are you part of a troopthat goes to different
restaurants, or is it always thesame venue?
Speaker 2 (41:27):
Yeah, yeah, so Mystery Mansion, they're what
you call a pipe and drapecompany.
So in the old tradition oftroubadours taking their stuff
around with them and setting upcamp and then doing a pop-up
show, that's what they do.
So Maggiano's is a venue wherethey do that a lot.
They also do it at Babbo andScottsdale and we've done one at
(41:52):
um, oh, got talking stickresort, which that one was nice,
the catering was pretty good,yeah, but yeah, it sounds
amazing.
Speaker 1 (41:58):
Yeah well, thanks again for being on the show.
Speaker 2 (42:01):
It's good to catch up with you.
Speaker 1 (42:03):
I love to catch up in person too, but hey, if this is
what we got to do, this is whatwe got to do this is what we
got to do.
Speaker 2 (42:08):
Hey, I'll take it.
I'll take any kind of Kristen,I can get Same here A little.
Speaker 1 (42:12):
Saskia always makes the day a little bit brighter.
Look for Saskia at Crack Up'sComedy Night, Game Show, Battle
Rooms, the Mystery MansionDinner Theater and be sure to
follow her on the socials.
See you next time at az laughsand listings.
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