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May 15, 2025 59 mins

April & Pepe delve into the themes of nostalgia, loss, & the creative process behind Apes Of The State's latest album. They discuss the personal stories that influenced the music, the collaborative nature of songwriting, & the impact of community & friendship on the artistic journey. The conversation highlights the importance of honoring loved ones in song & the challenges of navigating personal struggles while maintaining a public persona. Thoughts on living through Hurricane Sandy, the impact of changing neighborhoods &, much more. We close out playing the track "What's Another Night?"


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HIGHLIGHTS:

  • Honoring parents in music
  • Collaboration & its powerful results
  • Channelling The Smashing Pumpkins when writing music
  • Touring while grieving a close friend
  • Songwriting can be a therapeutic outlet for pain
  • What songs become "anthems"
  • Meeting punk rockers in rehab
  • Being viewed as "the strong friend"
  • Experiences from older generations can provide valuable wisdom
  • Friendships can dissolve over time, simply due to life changes
  • Thoughts on nostalgia
  • Musical references heard throughout the album
  • We play What's Another Night?




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