152 Navigating NBCC CE Provider Approval

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Speaker 1 (00:04):
So Texas doesn't have rules regarding CE providers.
Nbcc does and there's a processwhere you can apply and it's a
little involved, which is a goodthing, because when you have an
NBCC provider they will holdthemselves to a certain standard
.
So you're going to learn aboutthat tonight and Kimberly has

(00:27):
been gracious enough to agree todo this kind of a shortened
version of a course that sheit's a longer course that she
teaches and she's going to giveyou more information about that.
So if you do want or need moreinformation about that, you can
reach out to her, and I see wedo have the attendance link
posted in the chat.
Go ahead and click that.
You don reach out to her, and Isee we do have the attendance
link posted in the chat.
Go ahead and click that.
You don't need to fill it outright now.

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And if you forget to get thenumber, don't stress, that's
mainly for us, but go ahead andkeep that open and that way,
when the presentation's over,it's there and we will have all
the resources for you in yourKate Walker training profile.
So that's where yourcertificate is.
That's where we'll put thePowerPoint for this evening and
anything else Kimberly wants toshare with us.

(01:11):
So, without further ado, I'mgoing to turn it over to
Kimberly Parker.
Thank you so much for beinghere.

Speaker 2 (01:17):
Absolutely.
Thank you so much, dr Walker.
I really appreciate you forhaving me here today.
I'm so honored.
This group has been so helpfulfor me, especially as a newer
clinical supervisor forassociates, so I just am so
grateful to be here.
I also feel like I see a couplefamiliar names, so it's always
nice to see familiar faces andkind of put a face with the

(01:39):
Facebook group or whatever itmay be.
So thank you all so much forhaving me here.
I know that this time willprobably go by pretty quickly,
so I'm going to go ahead andshare my slides with you all and
if you could also confirm forme if you see the document that
I dropped in the chat, becausethat should, okay, you do, okay,

(02:01):
awesome, awesome, awesome,awesome, okay, very good, all
right, let me go ahead and movethis up a little bit.
All right, so I always like tocheck in at the very beginning
of the presentation.
Especially canva tends to bevery rich in its document or its

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bite size.

Speaker 1 (02:22):
So, as it's, taking time to load.
Kimberly, I'm going to stop you.
I said yes, and now I don't seethe document.
So you can either drop thatagain or just I think you sent
it to me in an email and so,everybody, I will drop that into
your profile as well.
Absolutely for sure.

Speaker 2 (02:39):
Okay, let me drop it here, that way y' all can follow
along.
Okay, so it looks like it'sloading up there.
All right, cool, so it shouldbe there in the chat.
Welcome again to this trainingon how to become an improved

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NVCC continuing educationprovider.
As Dr Walker mentioned, this isa larger class.
I typically do it workshopstyle over about four hours, and
that will be coming up again.
I usually do it once a quarter.
That will be coming up againnext week.
So I'll give you all moreinformation on that.
But I wanted to at leastprovide you with the meat and
potatoes so that you can getstarted.

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You can get started or you cancontinue.
You might already be in theprocess, and so I know why I
created this course is becausewhen I went to apply, I don't
know if it was like my ADHDtendencies or what, but I just
kept looking at that applicationand then I would just close the
document every single time andI'd open up the policy manual
and I would just I would closeit every single time until one

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day.
I just told myself you're goingto sit down and you're going to
do that this week.
So welcome, welcome, welcome.
Feel free while we're here.
I definitely believe in amutual learning experience and
so if you ever need to unmuteyourself or there's like a raise
hand feature or pop somethingin the chat, I will make sure to
check in At the end of everyobjective.

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I do also have a slide forquestions and thoughts, just to
make sure that I can check inwith y'all as well.
So again, I'm so glad to behere with y'all.
My name is Kimberly Parker.
All right, we'll get into it.
All right.
So quick disclaimer I did letNBCC know when I first started
doing this course last year thatI was going to start doing it,

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and they want me to make thisdisclaimer to remind you all
that I am not speaking on oracting on behalf of NBCC and
there is no guarantee thatparticipants, acep, which is the
approved continuing educationprovider, application submission
will be approved.
Ok now, I've already heard goodfeedback from my attendees,

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really really great feedbackfrom everyone who has joined.
I think we've had about 60attendees so far and they are
all doing great but want torespect NBCC and provide that
disclaimer.
So again, my name is KimberlyParker.
I'm the CEO of Revive to ThriveWellness Center.
I have about seven years now ofexperience of mental health
treatment at all levels of care.
I am a fourth year doctoralstudent, so I might be bugging

(05:11):
y'all soon to be a participantin my study as I start data
collection.
Hopefully, over the next coupleof months I'll be focusing on
the professional journeys ofindividuals who are working to
decolonize their therapypractice as well as what are
their common factors.
So that's my shameless plug ofthe night.
Yes, thank you Again.

(05:33):
My roles are being the CEO,being a therapist to my amazing
clients.
I typically work with cyclebreakers who are wanting to
break generational patterns butalso love their families and are
very collectivistic, so we tryto figure out how to merge the
two.
I offer trainings and speakingengagements, the trainings that
I typically offer on the topicof cultural humility, as well as

(05:56):
the NBCC course.
I'm also a clinical supervisorto some amazing supervisees,
researcher and instructor.
I'm telling you this becausethere is a course that I do with
a psychiatric nursepractitioner friend that I have,
and I'm always looking atfeedback whenever doing courses,
and someone mentioned I reallywish you all would have taken

(06:18):
time to like tell you a littlebit more about yourselves
because I might want to continueworking with you.
So I think for the purpose ofthat I wanted to give you my bio
, but also for the purpose ofknowing who you're learning from
.
I'm really big about like thatknow who you're learning from
and you know that you can trustthat person's knowledge,

(06:38):
whatever it is that they'regoing to share with you.
So, just so I can kind of get abetter idea of who's in the
room and what courses you'reoffering or what courses you
want to offer, I'd like to seeif y'all wouldn't mind popping
in the chat just a little bitmore about yourself, your name,
if you want to share a littlebit more about who you work with
maybe it's that that idealclient that you work with as

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well as if you can tell me ifyou're currently offering
trainings or any continuingeducation courses.
And then if you want to shareyour biggest hope for today,
that's also great.
So yeah, I'll just give you afew moments to drop that in the
chat.
Again, I would love to learnmore about who's here and again,
if you are offering courses,maybe even the topics if you

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already have the topics that youare wanting to you know, share
or train on, I'd love to hearmore.
I'll give you a few moments topop that in the chat.
You're also welcome to unmuteyourself as well, if that works
better for you.
All right, michelle, okay, thatis a very familiar name, I know

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at some point in time I feellike you have been a great
resource, is what I'm thinking?
Awesome, okay, you want to takeyour Okay, yeah, and turn it
into a CE session?
Yes, that would be awesome.
Now if I could ask you thisagain.
I'm just trying to get a betteridea for who's in the room here
.
With the ebook that you'rereferring to, you want to teach

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folks how to create the e-book,or the e-book you want to
translate that?
You're saying, based on whatthe topic is, you want to
translate that into a continuingeducation course?
Ok, awesome, very cool, amazing, okay, all right.

(08:27):
Lynn says you train all right,therapy, all right, awesome,
awesome, awesome, awesome.
Dr Tara Fox amazing, all right,very cool, okay.
So trainings, positioninggraduate students Awesome,
awesome, okay.
Working with complex PTSD Allright.

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Postpartum Amazing, awesome,very cool.
Also, addiction Okay, which isgreat because there are specific
topics that will and we'llreview that today what those
topics are All right, perinatal,amazing.

(09:10):
Also, working with graduatestudents yeah, I'm sure I'll
probably see a theme there ofworking with graduate students
or associates.
Now that I think about it, allright, doing okay, but hope to
start absolutely trauma informedcare yes, yes, yes, all right.
Crystal Lockett, okay, you havea lot of topics.
Okay, very good, very good, allright.

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From hangry to happy yes, Ilove that, amazing.
Oh, my gosh, I feel like Idon't know if anyone else can
relate.
I was going to be hangry beforeI got here, but I was able to
stop and get some food reallyquick.
So, all right, awesome, okay,yeah, so y'all just continue to
drop those specialties in thechat.

(09:53):
That's so cool.
You said here you train mentalhealth professionals, lawyers
and school districts.
Okay, that's awesome, awesome,awesome, awesome.
And we'll talk a little bit moreabout that as it relates to
being able to really diversifyyour income and maximize, you
know, making, making money offof the courses that you offer.
I think something that'simportant to mention that Dr Dr

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Walker touched on earlier islike, yes, we have the 50 50
rule here in Texas where,technically, I mean any course
that you take, as long as theperson is falling under that
rule, you can absolutely offerthe course, you can attend the
course, you can get credit.
But the cool thing about theNBCC approval is that once you
get that approval, you can offeryour course nationwide.
So oftentimes when I do courses, I've got folks coming from

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over here and over there.
They know that, again, it'sbeen approved through NBCC.
So, like Dr Walker mentioned,you know that piece about
knowing that the individualwhether it's their bio that they
read through or the course thatthey read through that they
know that they're also offeringa quality material, which I
think is important.
So, yeah, so y'all just keepcommenting your introductions in

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the chat.
I'll go back and check in on thenext break.
Again, you're also welcome tounmute yourself, and so what
we're going to be going overtoday is the application process
and how to avoid commonmistakes, what to include in
your materials and how to meetNBCC requirements, as well as
how to leverage your providerstatus to grow your income and

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influence.
Again, this course is typicallyfour hours, done over four
hours, very much so workshopstyle, and I'll talk a little
bit more about that at the endand so we'll continue to get
right into it.
All right.
So navigating the applicationprocess, all right.

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So navigating the applicationprocess, all right.
So one of the main requirementsis making sure that you are a
qualified presenter, and sothere are three different
categories that you can fit inas it relates to being a
presenter.
Cross anyone just yet who was acategory two or category three

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presenter, and I'll tell youwhat I mean by that.
So a category one presenterconsists of an individual who
has received a graduate degreefrom a regionally accredited
institution.
That was also a mental healthprogram.
So those three parts, sograduate school, mental health,
as well as regionally accredited.
I had someone email me todayand they said hey, I want to
take your course, but I'm amarriage family therapist and I

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live in this state.
And I said no problem, becauseit's already been confirmed with
NBCC that any discipline canapply to be an NBCC provider, so
it's not just specific to LPCs.
You can be a marriage, familytherapist, a social worker,
psychologist, psychiatrist, andyou can get this credential.

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And so category one again, it'sgoing to consist of having a
graduate degree with a mentalhealth background from a
regionally accredited school.
In addition to that, they wantto make sure that you're a
subject matter expert on thetopic that you're speaking on
and that you have the educationagain on the topic that you're
speaking on.
So what I would assume is thatmost people here are Category 1
presenters.
Again, I haven't come across aCategory 2 or Category 3

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presenter, but I'll still sharejust in case.
A Category 2 presenter ispretty much the same as a
Category 1 presenter, with theexception of their graduate
degree did not come from abackground in mental health.
So maybe this is I'm going tomake it up somebody who I don't
know took communications astheir background.
You know, they have a graduatedegree from a regionally

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accredited institution.
They're a subject matter expert, but they did not go to a
program that was specifictowards mental health, so that's
going to be your category twopresenter.
Okay, as it relates to yourcategory three presenter, that's
going to consist of anindividual who is qualified
again on the topic.
They have the education, but,as you notice, they didn't come

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from a regionally accreditedgraduate school or a school that
has the mental healthbackground, and so that is going
to be your category three.
You may now see why I mentionedthat most folks here are
category one presenters.
Okay, so a couple of otherthings to keep in mind, as well
as presenter requirements andrestrictions, is that each

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program presenter must qualifyunder the policy.
So this policy that we justwent over category one, two and
three and teach and be a subjectmatter expert on that
particular topic.
So for some people, maybethey're doing research on it,
maybe they're already offeringtrainings on it, etc.
Etc.
Subject matter expert.
Unfortunately, honorary degreesdo not count for this

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requirement.
I always say, why do they havethis rule?
But I have a feeling thatsomewhere, somehow, something
happened and now they have to.
You know, make it a rule, youknow it goes so.
So that's one thing is knowingthat the honorary degree is not
going to count for thisrequirement, and if the
individual has received anacademic degree outside of the

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US, there might be someadditional kind of hoops and
ladders that you might have tojump through, which is pretty
traditional, I think, for ourfield.
So that is just a quicksnapshot on presenter
qualifications.
All right, now the next partthat I notice and I'll stop in a
moment to ask questions or seeif you have any questions or any

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thoughts the next thing thatfolks have questions about as it
relates to the application,because this is actually on the
first page, when they're askingyou who's going to be the
provider, okay, and so we knowwhat the presenter consists of?
And then you have the provider.
Who is going to be the provider?
But there's two other rolesthat they mentioned here.
So one is going to be the ACEPadministrator and just to recap

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on that acronym, again, it'sapproved continuing education
provider.
Okay, so what I like to callthis person even though I have
this really cool guy in aconstruction outfit or I don't
know what he's got going onactually, but this engineer is I
like to think of this person asour admin person.
So this individual is going tomanage all aspects of the ACEP

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program within BCC.
Some of the keyresponsibilities include to
serve as the main contact,handle the application process,
oversee program administrationand compliance, as well as a
manage, approval and maintenanceof ACEP status.
So I have some folks who Iactually serve as all three

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roles, and I'm going to get tothe next role here in a minute,
just because I am a one.
You know, one woman show atthis current time, but I have
someone that I was working withrecently and they're like Kim.
I'm really not the mostorganized person.
I think I want to have somebodyelse serve as the ACEP
administrator and that'sperfectly fine.
That's perfectly fine.
There's a lot of organization tokeep in mind, whether it's the

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program or it's.
You're keeping the summaries ofthe evaluation, you're keeping
a copy of the certificates andreally anything that you will
need to be prepared for audits,and so having an organization or
having someone who is willingto organize all of those things
as well as handle theapplication process, is ideal.

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Additionally, based on when youget approved, a year from there
, you're going to need to payyour annual fee as well.
If I remember correctly, it wasabout $300.
And so, with that being said,you are going to want to make
sure, again, that you have thatperson, your admin person, who's
looking out for these types ofemails.
They know about any upcomingaudits, they know about any fees

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that are due so that you canmaintain your status.
So that is the ACEPadministrator.
That's going to be your personwho's all things admin.
Okay, now this next person, thenickname that I use for this
person.
Again, I'm all three, andsometimes I just feel like that
sounds like I'm so full ofmyself, but no, I'm just a one
woman show over here right now.

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So this is what I like to callthe quality control individual.
Okay, like I mentioned, you canserve as all three roles you
can be the provider, you can bethe admin person and you can be
this quality control person whois called the program content
administrator.
This individual is going tomake sure that your programs are

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maintaining quality andintegrity in the content that is
being shared.
Okay, what you'll notice isthat it also requires that they
hold an advanced degree from amental health field.
And so if you are a categoryone presenter which again I'm
assuming most people here aregoing to be that category one

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presenter then you're alsoeligible to be the program
content administrator and thisindividual will be responsible
for ensuring program contentmeets the NBCC standards, verify
presenter qualifications,maintain educational integrity,

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and they may also serve as theadministrator because, again,
you can serve as all three ifyou choose to.
What I will say is to one ofthese points here, it mentioned
verified presenterqualifications.
So I know maybe a little bitago I ended up doing a panel
with about four other colleaguesand I was trying to figure out.
You know, there is a differenceobviously between the provider

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so the person who handles allthings, provider versus the
presenter, the person who'sgoing to present, and I was
trying to make sure that I hadall of the materials needed
again, because I want to beprepared for any audits that
come up, and so one way that Isaw fit to do this was to
collect their resumes, becausethat's going to tell me anything

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I need to know about theirexperience, their education, etc
.
Etc.
So that could be one way thatyou're verifying presenter
qualifications.
What you'll also notice in theapplication the application is
nine pages total that it doeshave a form that will ask the
qualifications of the presenter.
So that's another alternativeis providing whoever's going to

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present for you another form.
I think that's important to notebecause there are different
applications.
So today we're talking aboutthe ACEP provider application,
right, and that is so that onceyou are approved, any program
that you provide under thatparticular provider name can be

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covered through NBCC.
Now, if you choose tocollaborate with someone, you
may or may not need anotherapplication, but that's going to
depend on their involvement.
So, as I mentioned when I didthe panel with four other
presenters, I handled all thingsprovider, and so I was able to
serve as a provider withoutpaying NBCC another fee and

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filling out another application.
I just said you guys, I'm goingto take care of all the
provider things you just show up, look beautiful and be so smart
like you already are, and bringyour presentation materials and
I will handle registration andpassing out certificates and all
of those things.
So I think that's important tonotice because sometimes when
you look at the website, you'llthink that you might actually

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need to fill out a separateapplication to collaborate with
someone.
But as long as you're willingto serve as a provider and
handle all things providerwilling to serve as a provider
and handle all things provideryou will be good to go.
Okay and I just wanted tomention that again because that
was actually like a hugemisconception that I had and the
initial application is $800.
And so folks usually havequestions about that as well, of

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like, hey, when I pay this $800, I see there's also an
additional fee of $400.
And that is correct.
And so what that means is whenyou apply for the first time,
you're applying for one format.
You can choose to apply for twoformats at once, but when you
apply for the first time,usually folks are applying for
the first one.
I applied for the live format.

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That means any training that Ioffer, live or in person, is
covered.
That application is $800.
Should I decide, or should youdecide to add on on-demand
courses, they are going torequire that you pay an
additional $400 to be anon-demand provider.
So I also want to be sensitiveto the fact that $800 or $1,200

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up front is a decent amount ofmoney.
So I want to acknowledge thatand I think that's one of the
barriers that comes up with thisapplication.
And what I try to get folks torest assured on is by offering
your courses.
It can be very I don't know ifI want to use the word easy, but
it can be easy-ish and veryquick to make your money back,

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because it can be veryprofitable and a very good way
to diversify your income.
So let me get to this slide.
I think this is a slide where Ican check in with you about oh,
one more slide, and then I'llcheck in with you about
questions or thoughts.
Again, this is in thePowerPoint.
Your three best friends aregoing to be the actual
application.
There's also the policy manual,which we're going to be

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breaking that down more and morein this presentation.
And then they also have whatthey call a toolkit, which is
nice because you can kind ofclick on there and get different
visuals for the actualcertificate and things of that
nature.
So those are going to be yourthree best friends, your three
best websites for this process.
Let me check in with y'all.

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I see a couple of questions mayhave come in through the chat
and again, you're also welcometo unmute yourself as well.

Speaker 1 (23:38):
Hey, kimberly, I just want to mention when I applied,
I actually applied for both.
I applied, I actually appliedfor both and I did not get the
live certification.
I hadn't given enough at thattime because it was COVID.
I hadn't really done any livewebinars so I didn't have one to
give them.
They gave me, so I blew 400bucks or whatever it was.

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So you know, be like, bepatient.
I guess it would be my advice.
Like you know, make sure youhave your stuff together and you
feel good about it before youhit that send button.
I mean, would you agree?

Speaker 2 (24:15):
Oh, I would absolutely agree and thank you
so much for mentioning that,because, again, I mean, while I
believe in abundance, I don'thave money raining down on trees
, you know, from trees just yet.
And so, yes, I do want to bevery mindful and I know there's
also I think that's anotherthing that comes up when I talk
to folks about this course isnobody really wants to lose
money, so it's also like holdingback on the application in this

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really great idea that theyhave because they don't want to
lose the money and I'm so sorrythat happened to you because and
because they don't want to losethe money and I'm so sorry that
happened to you because andthey were super helpful Like
they were coming back and theywere saying like look, you need
more of this or this.

Speaker 1 (24:53):
You know you need to show us more of that and I just
I hadn't done enough to reallyshow them, but you know the
money's already spent and therewe go.

Speaker 2 (24:59):
Exactly.
Thank you so much for bringingthat up, and I'm actually going
to touch on that a little bitmore, I think in the next
objective here, because that isvery important.
Yeah, I don't want anybodylosing money.
I want to give you the bestchance possible to get your
application approved.
Okay, so I see here there's anote.
It says to collaborate.
I can find someone who'salready a presenter and agree to

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be the provider for them.
Correct, someone who's alreadya presenter and agree to be the
provider for them?
Correct, absolutely.
If you want to be the providerand you are totally fine taking
on that responsibility, you aremore than welcome to do that.
And I'll give you anotherexample on that is I have a
friend right now.
Maybe some of y'all may haveheard from her.
I promise this is not anothershameless plug, but she is

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working on her dissertation andshe is offering a continuing
education course as like anincentive to do her survey for
her dissertation.
So I told her I was like hey,you know that's my girl.
So I'm like, if you want me toserve as a provider for this
training that you're providing,that way folks can get credit,
I'll do that.
Now she had the backing of theuniversity who's also an ACEP,

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so she's like I think we're good, but she did have me kind of as
a backup if needed.
Crystal, you said so.
Once you apply under the ACEPversion, it covers all courses.
Yes, that you want to offer asa provider and I'm so glad you
asked that, crystal, becausethere's an application for
collaborating.
So that is, if you're going toshare the provider duties, there

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is an application for that andwith that application you
actually have to pay.
It's like in ranges.
So, like this course I offerwith Bonnie, if we want to offer
it like one to five times,they'll charge you X amount of
money and we would just keephaving to pay that over and over
and over again if her and Iwanted to collaborate as
providers and presenters.

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But in the case where you'retaking on the full
responsibility of the provider,you don't need that additional
application.
But to get a little bit morespecific with your question,
crystal, yes, any course thatyou want to offer, as long as it
is following the contentmaterial for NBCC and what their
requirements are, all of yourcourses are covered under that.

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Some folks I had someonerecently who told me they wanted
to fill out an application, forthere's a single program
application.
So if you just want to getcredit for one course Me
personally again, I really liketo work smarter and not harder
if at all possible so thatapplication doesn't make too
much sense to me because Irather just pay and be covered

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moving forward.
But in some instances thatmight make sense for folks.
All right.
So y'all keep the questionscoming in.
Let's see.
Cheryl said do we have to sendthe webinar for a live training?
That was done online, so okay,so the application here, so the

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application is nine pages total.
They have the live format,which means you were offering it
live as well as you could offerit in person if you chose to
meet up in person.
But then they have a separatepart of the application for
on-demand courses.
So I just want to be sure,cheryl, for this webinar that
you're talking about, are yousaying that if you wanted to be

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an on-demand provider, would youhave to provide them with the
recording of that course?
Is that what you're asking?
But it actually doesn't soundlike, because you mentioned live
training.
I want to make sure that I'manswering that correctly.
If you wouldn't mind unmutingyourself or if you could
elaborate on that, I want tomake sure that I answer your
questions sufficiently.

Speaker 4 (28:49):
Are you asking about what I put in here?
Do we have to send the webinarfor a live training that was
done online.

Speaker 2 (28:56):
I just wanted to see clarification.
Are you saying that you'reoffering a course that's live?

Speaker 4 (29:00):
No, I've already done one, and I did it to the
Association of Prenatal andPerinatal Psychology and Health.
It was done live online.
Psychology and health.
It was done live online, but Idon't have a recording to send.

Speaker 2 (29:19):
Absolutely.
You don't need the recording.
So if you're going to apply forthe live in person so like live
is kind of like how we're doingright now, or a little bit of
conference room with them itsounds like, though you did it
kind of like this If you'reapplying for that particular
format, you do not have to senda recording to them.
You have information about thatprogram and I'm going to

(29:40):
elaborate on that in just amoment.
But you do not need to sendthem a recording.
Okay, great, thank you,absolutely, absolutely, all
right, so y'all can continue tohave your questions.
Pop in the chat.
Just to recap, I'm a big recapperson just because I want to
make sure that we're going fromhidden objective to objective is

(30:01):
.
So far, we've talked about theroles, right?
So we have who's the provider,so that person who's going to
take the responsibility Somepeople use their name, some
people use their business name.
Then we have our administrator.
They're going to handle allthings admin, paying those fees,
turning in the application Ifthey have questions about your

(30:22):
application, like Dr Walkermentioned, boom, then they'll be
the person who gets back tothem.
And then you have your qualitycontrol person, who's going to
make sure that you'remaintaining the quality and the
standards of NBCC, whether it bethe content material, keeping
up with the differentdocumentation that they require,
like evaluations, et cetera, etcetera.
That is going to be yourprogram.

(30:43):
You're, like I like to call itthe QC, your quality control
person.
Okay, we also talked about thedifferent category of presenters
.
So category one, two or threeand again I'm making the
assumption that most folks hereare going to be category one,
meaning that you have a graduatedegree from a regionally
accredited institution with abackground in mental health and

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you are a subject matter expert.
All right, now what to includeon your application.
So the application is ninepages total and it consists of a
few items.
So the first thing that you'regoing to include and we're
speaking again specificallyabout the live event program is

(31:26):
Attachment A, and that is goingto be all about your program
that you are applying for.
Okay, so let's say, if somebodyhas a course I had somebody,
daisy she was doing a course onmaking play therapy culturally
responsive for Spanish speakingfamilies, and so that is the

(31:48):
course.
Even though she offered severalcourses before that course,
that was the one that she choseto do her application on.
So when it comes to filling outAttachment A on the nine-page
application, that is what wewrote about on her particular
application.
In addition to that, they'realso going to want a brochure or
any type of agenda, anypromotional materials that are

(32:12):
attached to that specific course.
So I know when I did myapplication, I did it on the
course Counseling Black Women,and so when I filled out
Attachment A, it was from acourse that I offered on like
November 10th, and so everythingthat I wrote on Attachment A
was about that the flyer wasadvertising that date.
The objectives were inalignment with what I put on Att

(32:35):
.
A was about that the flyer wasadvertising that date.
The objectives were inalignment with what I put on
attachment A as well, and so forthat you can just it can be
like a PDF or a JPEG.
However you want to send theinformation.
It's all going to go in oneemail, unless you choose to mail
it in.
In addition to that, they'realso going to want a blank
program evaluation.
What I like to use for that isGoogle Forms, just because it's

(32:59):
really, really user-friendly.
I know a lot of folks alreadyuse the Google Workplace anyhow,
and so I'll use Google Forms,because another part of the
application that they want is asummary of feedback, and so you
have the blank one that doesn'thave any responses on it, but
then you also have a summarythat they want you to include as

(33:21):
well.
So I think it's important tobring this up and we're going to
get to this in just a moment isthat it is required, and I
think this may have been whathappened when it is required,
and I think this may have beenwhat happened when Kate Dr
Walker when she applied is thatthe information that you fill
out is going to be on somethingthat you've already offered, and

(33:41):
they actually want you to haveoffered two different programs,
even though you're doing theapplication on one specific
program.
They want it to be that you'vealready offered at least two
different trainings.
And so, again, we'll get tothat here in a moment, but I
wanted to bring that up herebecause when you're submitting

(34:03):
the evaluation summary, that isgoing to be based off, again,
whatever you're filling theapplication on, but also a
training that did happen,because we need that summary of
feedback.
Okay, in addition to that,you're also going to include
your presenter qualificationform, which one of the things
that I like to mention aboutthat form, because usually

(34:25):
you're just filling out youreducation when you earn your
degree, what your credentialsare, et cetera, et cetera.
On that particular page theywill ask for your bio, and I
like to mention there that youwant to make sure that your bio
is specific to whatever trainingyou're submitting your

(34:46):
application on.
So again, my training was oncounseling Black women, and so
when I submitted my bio I mean,I think we all have so many
different bios based on whatwe're doing I made sure that the
bio spoke to my background inworking with Black women.
So I talked about the research,I talked about the
presentations, I talked aboutthe types of clients that I work

(35:07):
with, et cetera, et cetera.
I know most of us have so muchexperience and have done all
kinds of things, but for thepurpose of this application, we
want to make sure that your biois specific to the topic that
you're going to be training on.
Okay, it's almost like whenyou're applying for maybe some

(35:29):
of these conferences ACA orwhatever and they're asking for,
like, your rationale of whyyou're qualified to present on
this particular topic.
That's almost how I look atputting your bio information on
this application.
In addition to that, they alsowant you to include a copy of
the CEU certificate that youplan to pass out to your

(35:53):
attendees.
The cool thing about that is,as I mentioned a couple of
slides ago, there were threedifferent links that I said will
be your best friends.
The toolkit which I want to sayis the very last link.
They actually provide to you anexample of a CEU certificate,
and so with that, you're able totake a look at it and really
just copy it, and so with that,you're able to take a look at it
and really just copy it.

(36:14):
Like you know, just get yourown Canva or whatever program
you use to make yourcertificates, or, if you're
looking for one.
I like Canva, I think they havesome pretty good templates, and
you'll just want to make surethat you are including the
pertinent information there.
Okay, all right, let's see here.
Okay, we're about halfwaythrough.

(36:34):
I want to make sure I can getall this information to y'all,
all right?
So I'm going to do anothercheck-in now that we've talked a
little bit more about therequirements for and I'll just
go back to that slide too, justin case y'all have any questions
specific on that one, anyquestions about what is going to
be required of you when yousubmit your application, you can

(37:03):
pop it in the chat or you canunmute yourself.
Whatever works best for you.

Speaker 3 (37:09):
Kimberly, did I understand you correctly in that
, when you were talking aboutthe evaluation summaries, they
want two of them?
They want it for the programthat you are submitting and for
a completely separate program,or did I get that confused?

Speaker 2 (37:24):
Thank you so much for asking that and I know I'll be
honest with you.
This is a question that comesup often because the language, I
think, is a little bitscrambled, so bear with me, if
you will.
When you submit yourapplication you're going to, I
think, is a little bit scrambled, so bear with me, if you will.
When you submit yourapplication, you're going to
give them just a blank eval, soone that has nobody's responses
on it, but then you're alsogoing to give them a summary of

(37:44):
feedback that you've received.
So and that's why I like Googleforms, because you can download
just your, your blankevaluation.
But then usually I want to sayit's like the middle tab of the
Google Forms It'll give you thesummary.
So every single question thatyou ask folks, you can just
download that summary and it'sgoing to give you a beautiful
summary.
So let's say, if you have aquestion I have maybe some

(38:06):
Likert scale questions in there,a lot of fill in the blanks too
, because they do want people tobe able to offer open-ended
feedback as well.
But let's say, if I had aquestion that was like one
through five, it'll give me theaverage of what that is and the
percentages of it, absolutely.
Now to your point about adifferent program.
I think I'm going to explainthat in like the next slide, and

(38:28):
it will make a little bit moresense there, because you are
correct that another program isrequired and I can elaborate on
that for sure, thank you.

Speaker 1 (38:41):
Any other questions and again, you're totally
welcome to unmute yourself orpop it in the chat all right,
I'm gonna ask something realquick, kimberly, um, you know,

(39:01):
one of the reasons I'm kind ofI'm almost glad I don't have
nbcc for my webinars is becausethe topics are so broad.
Are you going to talk a littlebit about the topics that you
have to like?
They have to meet thosecriteria absolutely, absolutely,
absolutely.

Speaker 2 (39:14):
Yes, that's such a great question that, because
that's so important, I mean Ithink that's the such such the
meat and potatoes and I knowthere were some folks with the
panel that I recently did it wason diversifying your income and
some folks were like, is thatreally a covered content area?
And it is.
It actually is as it relates tothat, professional development
and also, I think, as it relatesto self-care.

(39:35):
I mean, I don't know that it'ssustainable that we only do
one-to-one care.
So we will absolutely go overthe content.
Very good question.
Yeah, okay cool.
All right, all right, so how tomeet NBCC standards.

(40:00):
So again, it's already kind ofbeen interwoven into this
presentation a bit, becauseagain we're talking about what
type of category presenter youare, making sure you have your

(40:21):
three roles your provider, youradmin person, your quality
control and then also talkingabout what is actually required
of the application.
And so a couple of notes.
So you want to make sure, again, that you are offering a course
that is covered under thepolicy as it relates to the
topics and the content that isacceptable, and we're going to
go into that in just a moment.
In addition to this and this isgoing to go a little bit with
the last thing that we weretalking about is you want to

(40:41):
make sure that you have offeredat least two different live
programs or one home studyprogram that qualifies for NBCC
credit.
Now I'm going to be honest withyou.
I'm not exactly sure why.
There there's a huge part of methat wonders well, why do you
have to offer two if you're onlydoing an application on one?
I mean, you're literally notgoing to write anything else
about this other course that youoffered.

(41:03):
My suspicion is they want tomake sure that someone has
practice in doing this.
That's my suspicion, but again,so I did it because, again,
when it comes to paying $800, Idon't want to, you know, just
take a wild guess and then justhope that you know.
So I want to say, by then,maybe the courses that I had
offered was the course that I dowith Bonnie Stice on

(41:25):
cultivating what is it?
The four roadblocks tocounselor growth.
So that's a culture humilitycourse, and then counseling
black women.
But I only did my applicationand all my application materials
were about counseling blackwomen.
Okay, some people ask me like,hey, like I really want to
submit my application, like do Ineed to wait till I get a bunch

(41:47):
of people to sign up?
I only had five people at thatparticular.
Yeah, only five people.
So when I submitted myevaluation summary, when I
submitted my application andthey asked me how many people
were there, there were only fivepeople and that was completely
fine.
So another quick way if you'relike hey, I want to apply for
this sooner than later, but Ihaven't met this requirement yet

(42:09):
of offering at least twodifferent live programs, you
might consider, especially sincewe have a lot of supervisors
here in the room, that if you'reoffering supervision, maybe
there's like a one hour coursethat you've created, that could
be a part of your supervisionexperience, maybe if you have
like a two hour group or onehour group or something like
that.
Because what is required thatit's going to be a topic that is

(42:33):
covered in meeting therequirement of NBCC.
And also another way that youcan kind of do this is because
not only is it going to becontent that is specific to NBCC
, which we'll get in here injust a moment, but it doesn't
have to be again.
You don't have to have like 10or 20 people.
So if you wanted to, let's say,if you have three or four
supervisees and you have a topicthat you want to present to

(42:55):
them, that's another way ofmeeting this requirement.
It doesn't have to be extensive.
Why?
Because programs for NBCC aremade for graduate level
counselors, and we know yourassociates are graduate level
counselors, so that would besufficient.
Okay, now if you already havecourses in your pocket that
you've been offering, then youare meeting this requirement.

(43:18):
Oh, I think I forgot to go overthe last one here One second,
I'm sorry.
All right, in addition to that,okay, this is just mentioning
that you want to make sure thatyou have your admin person.
You also want to make sure thatyou have your admin person.
You also want to make sure thatyou have your quality control
person, as we mentioned.
That's the individual with thegraduate level degree, with a

(43:41):
background in mental health andthey are a subject matter expert
.
They're going to be yourquality control person.
You want to have, of course, acomplete application with fees,
materials, et cetera, et cetera.
Again, as it was mentioned,they are pretty nice.
I know that it can be a littlebit nerve wracking to hear back
from them and to see whatfeedback they have.
They had feedback for me when Isubmitted my application and

(44:04):
initially I was shaking in myboots again because I was like I
really don't want to waste mymoney, but they were so nice and
they were so helpful and it wassomething we were able to wrap
up within like maybe three days,so all right.
So, in addition to that, again,I have a feeling this is one of
the rules that they havebecause it happened and so now
they have to mention it is youjust want to make sure not to

(44:25):
advertise yourself as an NBCCprovider until you get the go
ahead from them.
So those are just a bit more asit relates to the
qualifications.
I see a question in the chat.
I'm going to stop for a moment.
Yes, exactly, you can use yoursupervision group Absolutely,

(44:46):
and I'm pretty sure.
Again, when I did the trainingwith Daisy again, she already
had her course that she wasoffering on making play therapy
culturally responsive forSpanish speaking families and
she's like I really want to turnmy application in sooner than
later because there is aturnaround time.
And that was what we came upwith after confirming with NBCC

(45:08):
that it's about offering coursesto graduate level counselors,
doesn't matter what theirdiscipline is, as long as their
state, as long as their state,as long as their board approves
the NBCC credit, then it will beacceptable.
And then, of course, we knowfor LPCs and they're called
different things in differentstates without a doubt the NBC

(45:29):
credit will be acceptable.
All right.
So how to avoid common mistakes,and so, as it relates to
documentation and organization,you want to make sure to do your
darndest.

(45:49):
As it relates to theorganization I know I mentioned
that earlier especially as itrelates to whoever you designate
to be your admin person, acouple of things that you might
include might be differentfolders or subfolders that you
have on your computer externaldrives I know I had to buy one
of those eventually because mycomputer just started breathing
so heavily after a while thatyou need that external drive

(46:12):
every now and again Dropbox, thecloud, asana or Trello I really
like the idea of using aproject management system like
Asana or Trello just because youcan do attachments you can
label.
You know you can have adifferent section for every
course that you offer.
It's really going to be whatworks best for you and your
organization skills or whoeveryou designate to be your admin

(46:35):
person.
As far as common mistakes toavoid, you want to make sure
that when you complete theevaluation form, or when you
create the evaluation form, thatyou do have questions that are
specific to ADA accommodations.
So you're welcome to take alook, but on my website I have a
notice there.

(46:55):
I also have it listed under thefacts section on my landing
page.
But then again, when passingout the evaluation and survey, I
do have two specific questionsabout accommodations and were
they offered, were theysufficient, et cetera, et cetera
.
So that's a common mistake thatcomes up.

(47:16):
Also, incomplete application Ilike to address the application
like I address when we fill outassessments or we're filling out
some type of intake form.
Even if there's nothing thatyou need to put there, I still
like to put non-applicablebecause, for me, what I was
taught was that if you put that,it lets them know that you
noticed it, but it's just notapplicable, opposed to it being

(47:38):
something that I skipped over.
And so, making sure that youreally fill out every nook and
cranny Sometimes I'll see,because I do review applications
as well.
Sometimes I'll notice thingslike a missing signature.
I will also notice missingcredentials and things of that
nature.
So really doing your darndest.
I know it sounds very simple,but again, because I want

(47:58):
everybody to get their money'sworth, you want to make sure you
fill everything out.
Okay.
Missing documentation?
Okay, because again, theapplication itself is nine pages
.
But, as we talked about, there'sother components that are
included, whether it be your CEcertificate or your evaluation
or your summary of evaluation.
So we want to make sure that weare including all pieces of the

(48:21):
application.
One way that I did that to makeit a little bit easier for
myself is I included I prettymuch copy and pasted what they
told me was required for theapplication and which I took out
of the policy book, and when Isent the email to NBCC, I just
made sure to touch on everysingle thing that they said they

(48:41):
wanted, which we've talkedabout here as far as the
application and the materialsthat go along with it.
But that could be one way justto make sure that you're
including everything.
In addition to that, anothercommon mistake might be
inadequate course content, andso you know, if you are
presenting on something that isnot covered by the policy, which

(49:02):
we're going to go over thosecontent areas, because I think
that's a really important thingto discuss us.
The only other common mistakeagain that I see and this
happens sometimes when we'reworkshopping, so when we're
doing the four-hour course, oragain if I'm reviewing someone's
application is unclear learningobjectives or learning

(49:22):
objectives that are a little toohefty, and what I mean by that.
I think back to this wonderfulperson who came to the course
and, like many of us I think Isaw that in the chat we have so
many great ideas and so we weredoing our workshop and she's
like, all right, here's my firstobjective.
And it was actually about fourdifferent objectives in one

(49:43):
objective.
And so the reason why I like topoint this out is not to come
down on that person becauseshe's awesome, she's wonderful,
but because we really wanna makethings as simple as possible
for the reviewer, and if theycan't make their way through the
objectives, which theobjectives are to be in
alignment with the content thatis required, then that can kind

(50:04):
of slow things down.
You might get them, you know,writing you back to make edits
and things of that nature.
So, again, we want to do ourbest to keep them measurable and
as clear and as concise aspossible.
You only have room for fourobjectives, and so I have had it
before depending on what theobjective is, we've been able to
find like some cool ways tocondense them, but do wanna make

(50:28):
that note that if we can makethem as clear and concise, that
would be one way that we can getthe application through and get
it approved, all right.
So tell me this Any questions,any questions, before we proceed
.
I know we have a few moreslides here.

Speaker 1 (50:44):
You've got a question in the chat about early
application course participants.
Can they use the certificatelater?
And I hope I'm understandingthat, Trina.

Speaker 2 (50:57):
Let me see Can early application course participants.
Can you would you mind unmutingyourself?
Trina Sure.

Speaker 5 (51:10):
So the people that we use, for instance the
supervisees, um, you know, to,um, I guess, practice or try out
our course once it getsapproved?

(51:34):
I mean, if that course isapproved and we've given them a
certificate, is that somethingthat they'll be able to use or
is it, you know, I guess I'm notsure about, like, what happens
after the approval.
That's different, you know.

Speaker 2 (51:48):
Absolutely.
So you wouldn't be able to givethem like DC credit.
You could still give them.
I mean, if you're offering thecourse in the state of Texas per
the 50-50 rule, you technicallycould still give them a
certificate and that would workfor their license renewal.
Do that until after you get theapproval and you start

(52:10):
advertising yourself as such.
And I think that's such a greatquestion, trina, because that
is one of their rules is thatthey don't want you to advertise
if they don't want you to sayanything like pending, you know,
nbc credit or anything, untilyou get that approval.
So that's a very good question.
Thanks, absolutely.
Thank you.
All.

(52:34):
Right, here we go.
Okay, now you all know what Imight have.
To end up, I think I might haveto do something.
I might need to pop intoanother slideshow because I want
to make sure that, before weleave today, that I give you the
content areas and there's ahuge part of me that's wondering
if I accidentally deleted themfrom this one because I have a
few different presentations likethis that are different hour

(52:57):
time slots.
So not time slots, butdifferent durations, rather.

Speaker 1 (53:01):
And Kimberly.
Before you run out of time, besure to tell people how to sign
up for your other course and howthey can contact you.

Speaker 2 (53:09):
Absolutely Okay.
I will definitely do that.
Thank you so much.
I appreciate that.
Thank you, and I'll make sureto.
I'll kind of blow through thisportion.
It is how to make money.
So I want to make sure thaty'all you know we want to make
money too, right.
We deserve to live well, right,and to be able to use the
skills that we have to do so.

(53:29):
So I just wanted to share withy'all a little bit of
information on some successfultrainings and just kind of how
they all came about, just so youcan see.
I like to tell the story behindthe course so you can see how
you can evolve the differentthings that you've done or the
different things that you'regoing to do.
And so Counseling Black Womenall started off during the doc
program, I want to say thesecond year, when I needed to
create a lecture for a masterlevel course, and then the

(53:53):
professor, who I adore, she'slike hey, you want to just do
the whole 30 or three hoursinstead of 90 minutes.
And I was like sure, well,again, in the spirit of working
smarter, not harder, I said tomyself I have to find a way to
repurpose this.
And so that's how this all cameabout.
Of course I made some tweaksbecause, um, again, this was

(54:13):
originally created for masterlevel students and so I made
some tweaks in translating it totranslating it for licensed
professionals.
And, again, I offer my coursesusually if it's on the topic of
cultural humility to masterstudents at no charge, just
because just something I like todo.
So, in any event, that's howthat course all came about and,

(54:36):
yes, it's been offered in theclassroom.
Yes, it's been offered.
It's a course that I offerusually once a quarter.
I also offer this course fordifferent organizations.
So, for example, therapyExpress I just did it for them
last Friday.
In addition to that, I offer itto agencies and large group
practices privately agencies andlarge group practices privately

(54:59):
.
So again, I think I maybementioned about four different
ways that you can flip a course,this course here that I do with
Bonnie Stice.
This all started because, again, we were in the doc program and
we're trying to work smarter,not harder, and they said, hey,
I want you to propose to speakat a national conference, and so
we did a roundtable of this at.
I want to say it was at eitherTCA or TASIS.

(55:20):
We also had a presentation atACA in New Orleans last year,
and then Bonnie and I actuallyjust offered this, maybe two
weeks ago, to anotherorganization CBI is who we
offered that for and had areally good time with them and
it was pretty profitable, whichwas nice, and so again, that's a
few ways we flipped that.

(55:41):
We've also offered thatprivately for private practices
as well, and so again, you can,we've and we've done it in
different durations, so itreally is, we did an around
table, we did it for one hour atACA, we did it, we do it as a
three hour training and when weoffered it privately, we've done
it at 90 minutes to meet theneeds of that particular agency.

(56:02):
Another course that I want tomention to you and this would
not be eligible for NBCC credit,but I still want to mention it
to you because it's a way tothink outside the box and how we
can diversify our income andmake more money.
So this course here, this isactually, to date, I want to say
, one of my most profitablecourses, and it's a course about

(56:26):
infusing CBT into psychiatricnurse practitioner visits.
The reason why this can't beapproved for NBCC credit is
because NBC states NBCC statesthat in their requirements you
must offer courses for graduatelevel counselors, psychiatric
nurse practitioners I couldn'tget that word out.

(56:47):
They are not graduate levelcounselors.
Even though they learncounseling, that is not like the
foundation of their role.
So it's a course that we madeand it's something that I did
based on my skillset incounseling.
But what I found is that a lotof psychiatric nurse
practitioners they either livein rural areas or they have
therapists that have really longwait lists and they're needing

(57:09):
to offer a little bit more careuntil their client can get the
full on sessions with thetherapy.
They learn this in theirprogram but they're not as well
versed in it as we are, most ofthem based on the programs that
they went to.
So a lot of them like to seekout trainings and I'm going to
be honest with you.
I'm going to say something kindof mean right now.
They'll take pezzy trainingsand I don't know, maybe it's all

(57:31):
the flyers or brochures that Iget, but I'm like, don't do that
.
Y'all, like you know, but theydo have some great training, so
maybe it's okay.
But long story short, wanted tobe able to provide them some
expert information and reallyeducation on the topic of
counseling.
And then Lauren comes in, so wecollaborate and she does her
thing as it relates to billingand documentation, and so again

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I wanted to bring this up forthe purpose of how can you make
you know, how can you make themost amount of money from these
trainings that you're going tooffer based on your knowledge?
Here I'll kind of blow throughthis slide, but again I just
wanted to show you a little bitof how you can kind of dip in
and out of spaces with whatyou're doing.
Yes, you can offer it to thecommunity and your peers and

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your colleagues.
I have also found thatcollaborating with individuals
who have large communities isanother really profitable way to
go about this.
Again, doing trainings fororganizations where that's just
like their sole purpose,offering continuing education
credits, has also been somethingreally helpful.
I will say that when Bonnie andI spoke at ACA in New Orleans

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last year, the individual had uscome speak to their local
chapter in Baton Rouge,virtually, and then they're
going to have us as theirkeynote this year.
So again, I'm just trying toshow you different ways to kind
of get into the different rooms,to advertise yourself, to
market yourself as that subjectmatter expert and to make money.

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So to sum up this making moneypiece.
A couple of other things thatyou could do is sell on-demand
courses, which we know that'sgoing to be an additional fee
with the application and anadditional process as well as it
relates to on demand courses.
You can host live webinars andif you choose to offer a replay,

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you can do so.
You can also license yourcontent to schools and agencies.
I know I've done that before.
I usually do that on a timelimited basis, just because I do
like to kind of hold my IP alittle bit close to my chest, so
I'll usually license it forabout 30 to 60 days.
You can offer a monthlymembership on the courses that

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you're offering, as well asupsell consults, ce credits or
any bonus modules.
You can create tiered coursepackages.
So I know I have another courseright now for psychiatric nurse
practitioners and pretty muchthe more you pay, the more you
get, and it's usually moreone-on-one time with myself and
the psychiatric nursepractitioner.

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You can also establish ongoingconsultant relationships, which
is really ideal becausetypically with the consulting
you can make a pretty decentamount of money in a short
amount of time through theconsulting work.
Partner with alignedorganizations and I use that
word aligned for a reason Ireally again I mentioned before

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I love this group and reallyappreciate the foundations and
the values of Dr Walker, and somaking sure that you're aligning
yourself with the appropriateorganizations as well as
collaborating with otherdisciplines, with the disclaimer
that if you're collaboratingwith someone else and you're
making a course for a differentdiscipline, that it may not be

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covered through NBCC but itcould still be extremely
profitable and also stay visibleand to get credentialed across
disciplines.
So today we're just talkingabout NBCC, but it's not a bad
idea to get covered under APA orto even get covered for social
workers, so that when you'reoffering your courses they are

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not just applicable to licensedprofessional counselors and all
the different ways they call usthat across the nation, but that
they're also available to otherdisciplines.
That would be like the idealthing.
So let's see if you want toknow more about how this topic.
I do have a course and I havedifferent ways that I offer it.

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So I have the four hour coursethat will be offered next Friday
at 10 am and I offer that oncea quarter.
I also have a VIP day.
So that's the four hour course,but one on one, where we solely
focus on your course.
Same material, but it's muchmore specialized.
A course that I haven't offeredin a few quarters is a course

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where I go over all nine pagesof the application and we go
over it step by step.
We also go over therequirements a bit more in depth
as well, as far as like whatthe difference might be from
this one hour.
Again, I try to fit so much offour hours into one hour, which
is so hard.
As you can see, I'm already outof time.
But what we do is we do adeeper review of the

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requirements and expectations,because the policy handbook is
24 pages, so we do a deeper diveinto that.
We also go through the ninepages of the application step by
step, line by line, and then weworkshop the application.
So for individuals who need helpbuilding their bios and their
objectives, and we also whatI've tried to do is condense
what I learned over about 16weeks in a teaching course, and

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I incorporate that as it relatesto teaching pedagogy as well as
learning styles, so that we cankeep in mind how we're teaching
and how we are sharingknowledge in a way that works
for our attendees Also offerpersonalized feedback as well.
I did extend the early birdrate of $100 off, and so if you

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use that QR code, okay cool,yeah, if you use that QR code
you'll get $100 off, and that'llbe next Friday, but also I'll
offer it again off and that'llbe next Friday, but also I'll
offer it again.
And, dr Walker, I just realizedsomething.
I did cut those content slideswhich I think is so important.
I want to be mindful ofeveryone's time, but I'm also I
don't know if you want like aquick five minute.

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I don't know what would be best.

Speaker 1 (01:03:31):
I can keep it going.
If people want to hang out,that's absolutely okay with me,
and you can see the other slides.
People are asking where to getthis information.
This is her PowerPoint.
She's using Canva, so this iswhat she gave me is now in your
profile, even that QR code.
So if you miss the QR code,just go to your Kate Walker
trading profile.
It's all there.

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So, yeah, if you want to hangout, I'll keep going, kimberly.

Speaker 2 (01:03:56):
Okay, thank you so much and I'll make this so quick
.
I don't know how I guess I gotto delete happy, but I had like
40 or 50 slides and I was likeKim, that's not going to work
for me, so let me get thosecontent slides and I'll just go
through that really quickly.
I'm so sorry about that y'all.
I kept asking myself when arethey coming in, and they just

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never came.
So let's see here, let Cam doits thing.
Thank y'all so much.
I'm so sorry that I did notinclude this, and what I'll do
is I can resend the PDF to foranybody who had to leave.

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I'll make sure to resend thePDF to Dr Walker just so that,
if you didn't get this piece ofthe puzzle, you get it, because
I do think that knowing aboutthe content is extremely
important, of course.
So let me thank goodness.
That's also the cool thingabout Canva it will restore a
previous version of thepresentation, so I was able to

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pull that up really quick.
All right, let's get this going.
All right, so it's 46 pages, itwasn't 50, okay, all right, let
me share my screen with y'allagain.

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All right can you all see thisslide here that says see you.
Content areas.
Yeah, thank you.
Okay, cool, all right, soquickly I'll go over the content
areas.
So when you're thinking aboutwhat kind of course you want to

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offer, again'll say as we'regoing over these topics.
So the first topic iscounseling theory, practice and
therapeutic relationship, and sothis might look like something
related to diagnosis andtreatment of mental disorders,
crisis intervention andmindfulness strategies, as well
as distance counseling andbiofeedback.

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When Daisy did her course againon culturally responsive play
therapy for Spanish speakingparents, this is where this is
the content area that we decidedto put for that course, and
what you'll notice is somecontents or some topics, some
trainings.
Rather, they might fit intomultiple content areas, and so

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you are welcome to list all ofthem.
Or, again, if we're going withless is more, you might just
choose to use one of the contentareas.
Another content area is humangrowth and development, so
anything related to personalityand lifespan development, as
well as learning theories andhuman development models.
Okay, so sometimes I get Ithink I had someone who wanted

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to do something a little bitattachment style related that
might go under the human growthand development, we also have
wellness and prevention, sosomething related to
complementary alternativemedicine, conflict resolution,
anger management, sleep hygienethat's a big one nutrition, sex
education and community-basedwellness initiatives.

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That would be covered underwellness and prevention.
We've also got social andcultural foundations most of my
courses again because I speak onthis topic culture, humility a
lot, a lot of them fit into thisparticular content area.
So anything related tomulticultural competency and

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counseling, social justice andsocietal concerns or
cross-cultural influences onmental health.
So again, I always like to tryto add an example, if at all
possible, for daisy girl withher course.
Yes, it was specific to playtherapy, but it was also working
specifically withSpanish-speaking parents, and so
this was another content areathat we listed on her

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application.
Another content area is groupdynamics and counseling.
So for all my group folks,anything about group development
and dynamics, counselingtheories and methods for group
work, techniques to foster asafe and therapeutic group
environment you could see thisreally coming in handy for

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anybody who maybe works at likea higher level of care where
group services are offered.
Maybe they need a little bitmore.
By they I mean any of theclinicians who are working there
.
They might need some moresupport as it relates to group
work.
Another content area is careerdevelopment and counseling, and
so career counseling theoriesand technique, life work, role

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transitions and career lifeplanning models, anything
related to job search trends,workplace assessment and career
resources.
I know that there is anassessment, a more so a protocol
that my chair has developedwith a few colleagues as it
relates to career developmentand how to do it in a way that's

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expressive, opposed to like.
So fill out, you know, fill outall of these different
assessments so we can find whichcareer you're doing.
So that's something I've beenthinking about for her.
I was like you know what Ithink if she taught other
clinicians how to offer this, itcould fit under this area.
There's also a content area ofassessment and counseling, so
anything related to diagnosticinterviewing and clinical

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assessment, ethical and legalconsiderations and assessment,
ethical and legal considerationsand assessment, dsm protocols,
standardized assessments andpsychopharmacology basics.
I really like thepsychopharmacology basics one,
just because, again I thinkabout what I know about medicine

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, just based on working out thedifferent levels of care.
But how, that's not alwayscommon knowledge, and so
sometimes we're seeing ourclients present in ways that are
like side effects of theirmedication, when you know
instead of what they'reexperiencing as it relates to
their mental health.
Now, of course, I always givethe disclaimer that I am not the
medication provider, but justknowing those things it helps me
to better conceptualize and beable to kind of suss out what's

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going on with the client alittle bit better.
We also have the topics ofresearch and program evaluation,
so that might be anythingrelated to critical evaluation
of research findings, developingmeasurable outcomes for
interventions, foundationalresearch methods, statistics and
report dissemination.

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My idea for this section was Itook this eight day oh my gosh,
I don't know how many hours.
It was like six hours a dayquantitative methods course and
I wanted to tell my professoryou should offer this as a
course.
It was amazing.
I mean, you did have to putyourself through six hours of
grueling quantitative methodsfor the day, really quantitative

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methods for the day.
But again, that could just beone idea for anybody who wants
to increase their skill inresearch.
And another topic here this isanother really popular one is
counselor professional identityand practice issues.
So anything related to ethicalcodes and decision-making models
, advocacy, interdisciplinaryteamwork and professional

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organizations, starting a newprivate practice, social media
use and emerging issues,clinical supervision,
consultation and forensicinterviewing.
So those I would say again,with that content it's usually
the counseling theory that'sreally popular, the social and
cultural foundations, theassessment and I would also say

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this content area of counselorprofessional identity and
practice issues.
All right, so that's it forcontent.
That was so quick.
Again, usually when we're doingthis, we're workshopping it,
we're talking about your ideasfor your topics and things like
that, but wanted to again giveyou some of the meat and
potatoes.
I really thank you all forstaying later, whoever was able

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to stay later today.
And again, dr Walker, thank youso much for having me here
today and allowing me to sharethis with your group.

Speaker 1 (01:12:12):
Kimberly, thank you so much.
This is like one of the numberone questions I get asked.
You know, how do we, how do youdo this?
And so when I found out you didthis, I was like, oh my gosh,
so we may have you back.
You know, this is something Ilove funneling people to good
people.
So y'all check it out, checkout the PowerPoint, check out

(01:12:33):
her stuff.
If you want to do this, it'scomplicated, I mean, it's just
not one of those things whereyou just kind of fill out a
couple of boxes.
So highly recommend, kimberly.
Thank you so much and I'm proudof you guys.
Thanks for doing somethinggreat on a Thursday night Way to
go.
All right, everybody, go getsome dinner, go get a glass of

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wine.
Yes, good idea.

Speaker 2 (01:12:56):
Thanks, Kimberly.
One more thing Someone says, ifthey can't make it one, I do
offer this course once a quarter.
So if they want to, you know,add, get added to my mailing
list.
They can do that.

Speaker 1 (01:13:07):
And I get on her mailing list.
This is what I was talkingabout the other night.
This get on her mailing list.

Speaker 2 (01:13:15):
Exactly you.
So much, dr walker, thank youall right, see you guys.
See you later, bye.