April 22, 2024 • 29 mins
Embark on a mind-altering adventure with Justin and me, John Proper, as we delve into the intricate dance of psychology, food, and health. Uncover how the simple act of thinking about eating kickstarts digestion, and how our preconceived notions of foods like dairy and fish can actually transform our bodies' physical reactions. Justin's own journey from fish skeptic to seafood enthusiast is a testament to the profound impact our mental narratives have on dietary enjoyment and health. By the end of our conversation, you'll be equipped with a fresh perspective on how your thoughts might be shaping your appetite and digestion in ways you never imagined.
Prepare to be captivated as we explore the staggering influence of the mind on our health and well-being. Picture a world where your beliefs could alleviate symptoms of food intolerance or even prime your body for healing — a place where the power of visualization isn't just a concept, but a tangible tool for wellness. From the psychosomatic origins of non-allergic food reactions to the parallels between modern science and ancient faith healing, our discussion traverses the realms of psychoneuroimmunology and the secret workings of the reticular activating system. Join us, and let your curiosity guide you to a deeper understanding of how positive thinking and self-talk can sculpt not only your health but your entire life experience.
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Speaker 1 (00:00):
Welcome to the Balance Blueprints podcast,
where we discuss optimaltechniques for health and
finances and then break it downto create an individualized and
balanced plan.
I'm your host, john Proper,here with my co-host, justin
Gaines.
In this part, one episode,justin and I talk about the
psychology of food.
We talk about if your dietreally matters, how powerful
your mind is over your diet andhow people may heal miraculously
(00:23):
.
Thank you for listening and wehope you enjoy.
But we talked about howdigestion starts with, like the
cephalic phase of you see thefood, you smell the food, and
they hinted on this.
So we're just going to go alittle more into it.
But it was so cool because Ithink we may have mentioned it.
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But if you like the food, if youdon't like the food, if you ate
the food growing up, if it justsmells weird to you, like all
of these things, we know theyaffect if you like the food and
you want to eat or not.
But they were affecting.
They were showing stuff in thestudies that they were looking
at that like the body won't prepas well, it won't digest it as
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well, and it all starts withjust your mentality around that
single food.
So not only was it like?
I think we took it to the pointof you know, digestion starts
there and like, oh, you mightlike it or not, but they've seen
in studies that it's actually,you know, the body isn't
processing it as well.
And to give like an easy example, the instructor, for the
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longest time he thought, likewhen he drank milk or ate dairy
he would get phlegmy.
He, you know the normalresponse a lot of people report
and it got to the point whereeven if he just thought about it
, he would get phlegmy and stuffand that kind of triggered
something in him like, oh, is itreally the milk?
Because a lot of the researchthey were looking at was just
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the power of the brain'sperception of that food and what
you think it's going to do toyou, that that can cause that
right, um, and he kind of doveinto that psychology behind it
and you know it is, it is gonenow for him.
Now, who knows a, a millionvariables could have changed.
But that's the point of whatthey're seeing is like if you
think a food is bad for you, ifyou think it's good, if you
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don't like it, it doesn't matter, because what your mind is
telling your body is actuallygoing to process it differently,
which is, I think, insane.
Speaker 2 (02:20):
Yeah, that is wild.
Speaker 1 (02:21):
That is wild, but you run into that self-fulfilling
prophecy, you know, like whatyou're talking about.
Milk's bad for me.
I think that.
And then boom, milk is bad forme because my body just does
that loop of I think it's badfor me, so it becomes bad for me
.
It like why they work well forsome people.
(02:43):
Yeah, like, yeah, we weresaying that, yeah, so this is
kind of building off of that.
If, if someone truly thinks andthis was crazy research that
literally backed up what we werekind of hypothesizing is if
someone really thinks qualityred meat or fish is bad for me
and harming my body, it will itactually will.
Speaker 2 (03:04):
Well, I feel like that's where I definitely
started to incorporate fish andseafood more into my diet.
So we have salmon probably oncea week now and I I wouldn't say
I love it, but I definitelyenjoy it more than I used to.
Yeah, but I feel like it's partof that mindset of my mindset
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now is like I'm eating thisbecause I know all the benefits
that it has and I know how goodit is for me, so I'm gonna get
through it, even though I don'tlove the flavor.
I don't love the texture I'mgonna get through it and I feel
like I've slowly started to likeit more and more.
And now this research makes aton of sense on like
rationalizing why that'shappening.
It's because I'm telling myselfI know the benefits, I know how
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much good stuff is here, you'regonna like it, you're warming
up to it, yeah.
Speaker 1 (03:51):
Yeah, it's kind of like a maturing way to come at
someone in a quote-unquote uhargument.
You know, it's like, instead ofjust saying this stuff's good
for you and you have to eat andthe other stuff, it's like, well
, maybe you need to take theapproach of these are all of the
documented studies benefits ofthis thing.
(04:11):
You know, if you don't want tobelieve it, that's fine, but I
can't force you.
But maybe you change someone'smind through that stuff, like
you said.
You know, after time you'vecome to see the point that like,
yeah, there's a lot of benefitshere.
That's probably the only waythat's going to change your mind
.
You know, it's not no one canjust sneak it into your diet,
force feed it to you or justtell you how good it is.
You know, you've come to termsyourself.
Speaker 2 (04:32):
Right, well it's.
Yeah, I don't like the odor, Idon't like the texture of the
flavor.
Those are all the things that Ihad issues with because I knew,
because the data behind it oflike you know, like three fatty
acids, dhta, you know so manythings in there that it's the
best way to get it.
It's like you know you might aswell you should do this, you
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know embrace a little bit ofsuck.
You know we do things inworkouts, we do things in work
that we don't like doing,because we know the benefits.
I kind of just took the sameapproach with eating fish and
you know, I can't say that Idon't directly see a benefit
from eating fish, you know, butit's, it's not.
A lot of these health thingsaren't short-term gains.
You know the long term.
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How is it going to play out?
You know what's.
What's that all going to looklike in the long term?
How's your mental psyche goingto maintain?
Are you going to getalzheimer's, are you not?
You know there's a geneticelement there, but what part of
it's environmental?
What part of it's nutritionbased?
Speaker 1 (05:29):
yeah, yeah, cover all your bases, um.
And then this goes along thesame line of of kind of the
psychology behind it and how youview food, but other things
that we didn't think about, notjust if you like smell it or
whatever, but memories behind it, like your culture behind it,
if you had food scarcity growingup.
(05:49):
So a lot of people you know, we, we look at why overeating is
such a big thing and weobviously in this podcast always
harp on the industrial process,addictive food, because that is
a huge element.
But you know people that mayhave been from certain areas or
cultures or just growing upwhere food was scarce, like you
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were programmed when young toeat any and everything you had,
and that doesn't just go away asyou get older.
You know like that's a thingthat happened when you're young.
So you see food as you getolder and you finish everything
on your plate because it's kindof ingrained.
I might not get food for awhile.
Um, yeah I mean there's, youknow we're getting into I guess
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the point of this podcast beingpsychology and perception of
food is basically getting intowhat we've said before of diet
does it matter?
You know it's.
It's hard to say, does yourdiet, because someone would run
with that and be like I'm goingto eat McDonald's until it's
like, no, no, not that.
But if you're eating wholefoods, quality foods, does it
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matter?
How much carbs Does it matter?
How much fat Does it matter ifit's vegetarian, if it's, you
know, I still have preferencesand I think there's the best
ones.
I still have preferences and Ithink there's the best ones, but
but there's got.
Speaker 2 (07:04):
There's some sort of lower limit where the threshold
is of like these are the basicsyou need to do, cause this is
this you know below this line isunhealthy.
You know getting less thangetting less than 5,000 steps a
day, you know 10,000 is optimal,right, so you know where it's.
Then we're picking a number outof thin air but like, okay,
we're doing less than 5 000,like you're going to see issues
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and you know if you'reconstantly, if you're eating
mcdonald's for every single mealor the equivalent, you're going
to see issues.
You know there's literally adocumentary about that.
But you know, looking at thingsthat way of, you know there's a
minimum threshold but abovethat you're saying the research
is saying more, it's morepsychological, it's more you
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know what's going on.
Speaker 1 (07:49):
I think so, yeah, based on the research.
I mean that's kind of what I'mconcluding, because, yeah, what
is 10,000 steps versus 11,000?
You know what I mean, butthat's the thing.
Over 95 years, or let's say 85,that extra 1,000 steps every
day will add up.
You know what I mean.
So will it add up to another 30years?
(08:10):
You know, I don't know.
But so it's not to say itdoesn't make a difference.
But then the other things, yeah, do come into play heavily, and
that's that's the brain andyour thoughts, and let's see.
So I got a bunch of notes here.
Yeah, interesting, dude.
That's why I think, in a fieldwith and you know this, I've
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went into nutrition, I got outof nutrition, I'm back in
nutrition and I think that'sjust what's causing me to switch
around so many times is, thepeople in the field just seem
stagnant.
See things that like when youwork with a client and you're
like how did that work or howdid that not work, and it starts
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to almost get explained throughthis.
You know what I mean.
Speaker 2 (09:03):
Well, I think it's.
It's really what we're talkingabout here with the brain.
Is the human element?
Yeah, Cause the other, uh, youknow, practices are focused on
individual areas.
So you're looking at nutritionvery black and white.
You're looking at workout, veryblack and white.
But because we're humans, it'snot black and white, and what
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makes us human is our brain, theability for us to process
things the way we do, the waythat we can think about things,
the fact that we're not justmonkeys.
Speaker 1 (09:35):
Yeah, exactly so, we'll go into a couple.
I think this we're not justmonkeys.
Yeah, exactly, exactly so we'llgo into a couple.
I think this is actually thenext step, a couple of research
studies.
They did that just back up thestuff we've been saying.
So oh, this one was wild.
I didn't tell you about thisone.
The first one is called MindOver Matter.
Mental Training IncreasesPhysical Strength.
(09:55):
If anyone wants to look it up,it's by Aaron Shackle, but in
this study I don't know theexact numbers, so I gave you the
name.
You can look it up.
But there's two groups ofpeople one that was the control
group and did nothing.
They lived their normal life,and one group that visualized
strength training for a certainperiod of time and at the end of
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the study the control group hadno change in physical strength,
um, and the group that justvisualized that actually had an
increase in physical strengthfrom the start to the end of the
study and they didn't do anytraining.
The only thing they did was themental training behind it.
Speaker 2 (10:32):
Okay, so no, no actual workouts no actual
workouts, so pretty wild.
Speaker 1 (10:38):
and you know I hear that I'm like okay, well, it's
one study, you know what?
Speaker 2 (10:42):
how much?
I mean how much gain are wetalking about here?
Did it get in?
Speaker 1 (10:45):
we gotta look, we, we gotta look, but we, we can look
it up at the end, um, becauseyou know if they're, you know if
their bench max was.
Speaker 2 (10:52):
You know, say it was 150.
You know it's like theirbenchmark like went to what?
151, 152?
Speaker 1 (10:58):
I mean you're not putting on a plate to do this no
, no, no, I think it's moremarkers of health for strength,
so not like probably the amountof weight they can lift, but
like the markers you see whenyou increase your strength
training.
Those beneficial markers in thebody went up, so not as much as
or neurological and endorphin.
(11:20):
Yeah, and the benefits ofstrength training, as if you
have, like when your body hasmore muscle mass on it,
different signals are goingthroughout your body, so I think
they were seeing more of thosesignals versus like I was able
to actually lift 100 more pounds.
Speaker 2 (11:33):
Gotcha, okay.
So it's not necessarily aquantitative thing, it's more of
a qualitative.
More pounds, gotcha Okay.
So it's not necessarily aquantitative thing, it's more of
a qualitative.
Yeah, okay, that makes moresense then, okay, yeah, yeah, um
, the benefit you get some ofthe benefits of working out by
just visualizing working outjust by visualizing.
Speaker 1 (11:51):
So I mean, why not combine the two when you're
working out?
This is a whole nother episode.
But make it a positiveexperience to yourself.
Visualize you lifting the heavyweight that you want to lift,
psych yourself up, quote unquote, and you know you're kind of
getting both.
You're seeing that you're goingto lift that weight and you're
actually lifting that way.
I mean, that's, that's a doublewhammy, which is pretty crazy.
Speaker 2 (12:13):
I'm even thinking just uh, I'm thinking more
injury recovery, agingpopulations, you know,
populations like a group thatliterally can't work out.
They're bedridden from aninjury, from age, whatever it is
.
This is suggesting that theirfirst step isn't actually
working out, their first stepsvisualizing doing it and not all
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.
But I'm headed in the rightdirection.
Speaker 1 (12:41):
Yeah, that's what throws me through a loop too,
though, like you're starting tothink like man, can I just think
things into existence, you know, because you see stuff like
that I believe in that stuff.
Speaker 2 (12:47):
I mean I have no problem telling you I believe in
, you know, law of attraction,that sort of stuff.
I completely believe in that.
I mean I feel like a lot ofstuff in my life has comments as
a result of visualization and,you know, just engaging that
part of your brain.
Speaker 1 (13:02):
You don't chase, you attract.
You know what I mean.
So it's yeah, it's crazy, butwe'll backtrack a second here
because this is what we weretalking about earlier.
I have another study thatrelates to that, but there was
actually a scientific study.
It's called psychosomaticresponse to food intolerances
and this is going along withwhen I said the instructor had
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that dairy intolerance and it'sa research study where you
actually can give yourself foodintolerances.
He was saying that most foodintolerances not talking to
allergies here, but just like agluten intolerance or a dairy
intolerance is actually comingfrom the psyche, where it's not.
Now we have other things thatcome into play too, of gut
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health and leaky gut.
But you know that they werejust in the study showing the
power of yeah, you can actuallygive yourself if you tell
yourself that food does not workwith me.
Well, you know, like theeasiest example is if someone
says they're eating quality redmeat, they're like yeah, I just
can't do red meat, and you'relike that is one of the least
irritating foods.
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So that's when it kind ofraises a flag of.
If someone says they have anintolerance to that, you're like
all right, we can look at maybesome things like stomach acid.
But if that's all good, that'sin your head.
Speaker 2 (14:18):
So crazy that's like stomach acid.
But if that's all good, that'sin your head.
So crazy.
That's interesting and I knowlike in the documentary the
secret, which is about the lawof attraction, they interview
people who had back injuries,had like massive injuries, and
one of their ways to recoverywas they literally just
visualize their body, healing itand fixing it, and so it's the
inverse of what you're talkingabout here, where your body
you're telling your body youhave a problem telling your body
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a solution, but both of them,because your brain doesn't know,
negative and positive yourbrain doesn't operate in the
negative you can't tell yourbody.
Speaker 1 (14:46):
I don't like if I tell you don't think about an
elephant, the first thing you dois you think about an elephant
like your brain doesn'trecognize the negative, so your
brain's going to do whatever youtell it to do, whether it's
truly outcome positive ornegative and that's why this
research is so interesting,because there's so many rabbit
holes, like you're explainingmaybe you're explaining how
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people heal and it wasunexpected.
Or you're showing how thedialogue in your head is so
important, because that's whatyou're listening to every day
and the downstream effects ofthat.
You know we we're just talkingsurface level right now, but he
gets into and we can get intolike the exact pathways of how
this stress affects what pathwayis.
And it explains so much to mebecause I had a lot of people in
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my life that relatively thin,relatively in good shape, you
know nothing that you'd look atand be like, oh, that that's
weird that you have fatty liverdisease or that you have thyroid
problems.
You know nothing that you'dlook at and be like, oh, that
that's weird that you have fattyliver disease or that you have
thyroid problems.
You know, and when I got over,when I saw this information
through the course, I was likeinsane, how stress works on
certain pathways and how manylike how easily it's related to
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the most common problems thesedays of low thyroid production
or fatty liver disease.
And it was just like crazy tome because growing up in a
family where no one wasoverweight but still had those
problems.
It was so strange and theynever got answers, because this
part of I wouldn't say it's new,but it's really emerging into
the general population now ofhow well it is.
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New Like psychoneuroimmunologyis very new.
There's not even there's likeone school that lets you major
in it right now.
So how the mind affects theimmune system and and our
hormones is very new, but it'sit's crazy well, the other thing
that my mind goes to is likethe religious element to it.
Speaker 2 (16:32):
Like every major religion, you hear stories of
people saying you know, I wasmiraculously healed or this
thing, so I started praying forthis and then it came to me and
it happened.
I feel like it's because, youknow, I'm not trying to play God
here, but you know, if you'repraying to a higher power and
you're consistent, you have aconsistent habit of doing that
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habit of doing that.
In doing that, you're going tobe naturally visualizing,
anticipating, thinking about it,priming your mind, doing all
the things that you're talkingabout.
And so you know, if you're, ifyou're asking for healing and
your brain is telling you thatand you firmly believe because
that's the other thing you'llhear with every major religion
you can pray all day, but if youdon't firmly believe it, it's
not you know, god's not going toanswer that prayer, because you
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don't believe that god can fixit.
And so this, this argument thereis.
You know, it's not necessarilysaying that it's not god but the
science behind it.
The only thing that science cantrack is the neurological
response.
What's happening?
In the brain, but it'sinteresting that those two
things can correlate togetherand show a similar outcome.
Speaker 1 (17:38):
And I think it's that topic of religion too is you
know, again so many rabbit holes.
But so interesting is I've I'vebeen on every spectrum.
I think of that like findingwhat I believe in, want to
follow, and um, to me I'mgetting to the point where it's
so crazy that they separate thembecause so people can believe
what they want.
(17:58):
I'm not saying this is theanswer, but I'm almost thinking
that, whatever you believe, thecreator has created a human body
that can heal itself so crazily.
So it's like, yes, you can prayto God, but it's not almost
like God is healing you.
It's God gave you the abilitiesto heal your body, and that's
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like kind of what I'm seeingthrough research.
Speaker 2 (18:20):
That's just again, just what I believe, but it's
like yeah, I would agree on thatLike every, almost every single
major religion, not almostevery major religion talking
about the big four.
Speaker 1 (18:29):
Yes.
Speaker 2 (18:32):
The way I kind of view it, and a non-contentious
way to view it, but I thinkeverybody should believe in some
sort of higher power and havethat.
Speaker 1 (18:41):
But in all the major religions.
Speaker 2 (18:43):
if you view it in that perspective, those major
religion books then becomemanuals and storytelling to
teach you lessons, to use whatyou were given, which is your
mind, to be able to visualize,and be able to do all these
things and see through the hardtime that you're in, visualize a
positive time out and yourprefrontal cortex is going to
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establish that.
Okay, we want there.
It's not your prefrontal cortex, your reticular activating
system will sit there and justconstantly look out for things
that get you closer to that.
It's mind-blowing that it doesit even internally, like it's
not just exterior things you'relooking at, it's it's internally
.
I mean by the sounds of it.
It's literally changing yourmicrobiomes, your digestive
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system, you're I mean it'schanging your neurological
responses.
You gotta have some sort ofhormonal impact.
This is.
This is mind blowing, and we'dbe crazy not to bring in the
spiritual element, becausethere's clearly some sort of
interconnection here that's theexact reason we are bringing it
is.
Speaker 1 (19:45):
You know, I didn't plan on going into this because
I'm not even prepared for thattopic.
That's a huge one, but it'sit's just.
You look at this stuff and youthink about some of the power of
these things and you that yougo.
That's just, that's just insanehow you know.
That's like no explanationother than there is no
explanation, you know, I mean,it's like yeah, it blows your
mind right, yeah, don't try toexplain it because it's not
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right, um, because yeah, you tryto explain why does your brain,
when you smell something or youknow, do all these things or
you tell yourself it's bad.
Speaker 2 (20:17):
Why does my brain then turn around and make my
body say, yes, this is bad.
That's not habit.
It's like, yeah, if you spendall day trying to explain, why
does it happen?
But, it's really not.
This is more of an observationstyle of this is what's
happening.
It's cool.
How can we harness that power?
Speaker 1 (20:34):
let's not worry about why it's happening yeah, yeah,
yeah, I know, just get thebenefits from it and then if you
always want to dive into, likeit's fun, and look into it and I
say we'll probably goingthrough this.
It's brought up a much betterconversation and it always does
so we'll do a part two of.
I would say part two willreally get into the pathways of
a lot of how the hormones areaffected, how how the thyroid's
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affected.
This one we'll just kind ofkeep brushing over Another one
about how the mind affectsexercise.
So there was a study of againtwo groups.
Each group was they wereworkers in a hotel that cleaned
hotel rooms after people usedthem.
They told one group of cleanersthat the cleaning you do is
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actually enough exercise to isjust like a good enough exercise
as a workout or something else.
And they didn't tell the othergroup anything.
They just let them do theirnormal job.
The group that they told thatyou know your job, your cleaning
is good exercise as a workout.
They saw health markers improveversus the other group just
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because they had the thought intheir mind that what I'm doing
is physical activity is gettingme healthier.
Is just that thought made adifference in their health,
which is wild being told thatyou know.
It kind of goes on to the play,too, of like, of someone giving
you positive encouragement ortelling you you can do this or
(22:02):
you know, I mean yeah, I wasjust gonna say positive
self-talk.
You know if you if you sit thereand say oh, my workout wasn't
good enough today it's gonnahave made it worse.
Speaker 2 (22:11):
It's gonna have a less impact on you than if you
sat there.
Like you know what I tried mybest I put everything I could
into it and you know, I feellike I did something today.
I did enough.
Speaker 1 (22:22):
I'm gonna get stronger.
Yeah, I feel like so.
The other day I did a workoutand I went heavier, not so again
, it plays into the reasons whyyou do it, but I usually go into
it with not good reason.
So I was like I'm going heavytoday just to work some things
out, which is okay as well, butit's heavy for, for the
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day-to-day.
It's heavy because that's whatI'm training with.
But when I put it intoperspective of like whoa, no,
this is maybe half of what I canreally do as a one rep, it felt
so much lighter on my back andthe only thing I changed was
that one thought in my head yeah, Well, the funny part too.
Speaker 2 (22:57):
on this same topic, we had a strength trainer in
high school for athletics, andthere was a point at which my
max had capped out, and what hehad done was he actually, I
think I had a 45 on each sideand that was it, and what he did
is he took off the 45 and heput two 25s on and so more
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weight, but it looks like it'sless because it's the smaller
plate and and I could do itpowered through it no problem,
and he would.
He would constantly do thatwith people where he was like,
listen, you walk up to that barand you have 245s on there and
one on each side.
Speaker 1 (23:38):
Your mind's telling yourself that is heavy yeah you
throw two 25s on, you're like oh, those aren't that heavy, it's
no big deal literally but youhave 10 more pounds on there I
know it'd be fun to just likeput 10 after 10 after 10 and not
even count and you just keep.
You're like easy.
Speaker 2 (23:53):
So he would do it you know he'd have you put on.
He put on a bunch of weights.
Your plates would be six platesdeep.
He'd be like all right, do it.
There's two and a half in there, there's tens.
He would alternate, so youcouldn't actually calculate.
Speaker 1 (24:08):
Yeah, so mismatched.
Speaker 2 (24:11):
It would look so dumb it's mind games.
It was one of those things thatit's like it allows your brain
not to calculate, so you don'teven know what you're doing, and
he would get people to hit axesthat they just have never hit
before because they didn't knowwhat they were doing so
imprisoned by, like, our owndoubts.
Speaker 1 (24:30):
You know, I mean, it's just like, that's like like
exactly what you said.
It's like two plates like, orfour, you know, two on each side
.
You're like that's heavy, it'slike, but I can do three plates
on each side.
You know what I mean it's.
So then, yeah, it's, I don'tknow it's, it's cool and I think
it's the thing that we know, wesee every day, but we don't
harness the power of um well,it's easy.
Speaker 2 (24:53):
I think it's easier to program the negative, oh yeah
it's easier to complain.
Speaker 1 (24:59):
It's easier to program the negative.
Speaker 2 (25:00):
Oh yeah, it's easier to complain, it's easier to say
I can't do this, because to getin the mindset of I can do this
and maybe this is just a mething, but if I say that I can't
do something, I just acceptthat as fact.
If I say that I can dosomething, why?
How do I know that?
Speaker 1 (25:17):
It's a rational rationalization.
Speaker 2 (25:20):
Isn't that ridiculous reasoning behind it?
You'll accept it.
If you're told you can't dosomething, you'd usually accept
it.
That's why there's all the fearof rejection and there's, you
know, a lot of depression,anxiety, all that stuff.
And it's because if somebodysays something negative to you
you say, oh yeah, I must begarbage.
But if somebody comes over andpraises you, it doesn't have the
(25:40):
equal effect that it does.
Somebody saying like you know,hey, you didn't do a good job
here, versus somebody saying youdid do a good job.
Those two things, for me atleast, don't have the same equal
and opposite reaction.
Speaker 1 (25:56):
Yeah, I'm going to write that down as, like,
negative confirmation holds waymore weight than positive.
Speaker 2 (26:03):
I'm gonna look into that, because that's just it's
true, you need more positives toequal the same as a negative.
Speaker 1 (26:13):
You know definitely, and I, I imagine we know that
biologically we're framed tolook for the thing that's
killing us, the negative.
I just I imagine it's got to godeeper than that too, though.
So that would be interesting.
We'll jump into that, because,yeah, it's because the fact that
we know that should out, shouldbeat that.
You know, like I know, so youget a lot, but it doesn't logic
(26:36):
versus the emotion piece.
Yeah, yeah I know, I know thatI'm always trying to avoid
danger but why don't I?
Speaker 2 (26:42):
celebrate when I find the food right right why don't?
Why don't I celebrate when Ifind life?
Speaker 1 (26:48):
yeah, good, good stuff, all right, we'll do.
We'll do.
That's, that's fun.
We'll do one more.
I think I have one last studyand the only point is to bring
up fun, fun things here and toshow that there's actually
studies behind this.
But this study called mind overmilkshake mindset not just
(27:10):
nutrients determines ghrelinresponse, grounds that hunger
hormone.
Um.
So I told I told I mentionedthis one too briefly the other
day, and this is two groups ofpeople they brought in for a
study.
One group got a drink.
On the label it said like anindulgent, sweet, chocolatey
(27:30):
drink, whatever it may be.
Other group got the same exactdrink but it said like healthy,
fit shake or you know, whateverthe label on that one was.
Both groups drank them and theytimed, like, what their body
did after certain amount of timeafter drinking them and they
showed just the responses inhunger hormones, insulin, like
(27:51):
blood sugar, and how much betterit was, even though the same
exact drink.
But the group that thought itwas a healthy drink, the food
label said you know, protein, nofat, blah, blah, versus the one
that said tons of sugar, tonsof fat, like, made a completely
different response in their body.
Speaker 2 (28:13):
It's just wild, it's funny.
It just occurred to me thatwhat we're talking about is the
placebo effect too, like why theplacebo effect works.
Why can I take a sugar pill andthe pain goes away.
Why can I take a sugar pill andI feel like whatever, you know,
whatever the case may be itshouldn't even be called the
placebo effect.
Speaker 1 (28:33):
It should be called, like, the power of the brain
effect or the power of the mindeffect, because it's it.
Speaker 2 (28:37):
The placebo almost downplays how crazy it is well,
I think it's because the placeboeffect was understood under
this is this is a fake pill,it's a placebo, so does it have
the benefit?
And now we're starting torealize that placebo effect
applies more than just a sugarpill.
That applies to so many morethings, but it's mind-blowing
(28:58):
that.
So your, your insulin and bloodsugar levels have different
responses and the hormoneghrelin.
Speaker 1 (29:07):
Uh, and I'd have to look at the site, right?
Yeah, all the other ones.
I'm just saying those are thetwo for me to like that.
Speaker 2 (29:11):
You know.
Those I could easily understand, you know very easily
conceptually understand of yourblood sugar insulin.
They're directly relateduallyunderstand of your blood sugar
and insulin are directly related.
So blood sugar is probably thesimplest one.
If I eat sugar, my blood sugarshould go up, but this is saying
that they ate sugar and theirblood sugar didn't go up, or
didn't spike at least.
Speaker 1 (29:32):
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Speaker 2 (29:34):
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Welcome to the Balance Blueprints podcast,
where we discuss optimaltechniques for health and
finances and then break it downto create an individualized and
balanced plan.
I'm your host, john Proper,here with my co-host, justin
Gaines.
In this part, one episode,justin and I talk about the
psychology of food.
We talk about if your dietreally matters, how powerful
your mind is over your diet andhow people may heal miraculously
(00:23):
.
Thank you for listening and wehope you enjoy.
But we talked about howdigestion starts with, like the
cephalic phase of you see thefood, you smell the food, and
they hinted on this.
So we're just going to go alittle more into it.
But it was so cool because Ithink we may have mentioned it.
(00:43):
But if you like the food, if youdon't like the food, if you ate
the food growing up, if it justsmells weird to you, like all
of these things, we know theyaffect if you like the food and
you want to eat or not.
But they were affecting.
They were showing stuff in thestudies that they were looking
at that like the body won't prepas well, it won't digest it as
(01:05):
well, and it all starts withjust your mentality around that
single food.
So not only was it like?
I think we took it to the pointof you know, digestion starts
there and like, oh, you mightlike it or not, but they've seen
in studies that it's actually,you know, the body isn't
processing it as well.
And to give like an easy example, the instructor, for the
(01:26):
longest time he thought, likewhen he drank milk or ate dairy
he would get phlegmy.
He, you know the normalresponse a lot of people report
and it got to the point whereeven if he just thought about it
, he would get phlegmy and stuffand that kind of triggered
something in him like, oh, is itreally the milk?
Because a lot of the researchthey were looking at was just
(01:49):
the power of the brain'sperception of that food and what
you think it's going to do toyou, that that can cause that
right, um, and he kind of doveinto that psychology behind it
and you know it is, it is gonenow for him.
Now, who knows a, a millionvariables could have changed.
But that's the point of whatthey're seeing is like if you
think a food is bad for you, ifyou think it's good, if you
(02:10):
don't like it, it doesn't matter, because what your mind is
telling your body is actuallygoing to process it differently,
which is, I think, insane.
Speaker 2 (02:20):
Yeah, that is wild.
Speaker 1 (02:21):
That is wild, but you run into that self-fulfilling
prophecy, you know, like whatyou're talking about.
Milk's bad for me.
I think that.
And then boom, milk is bad forme because my body just does
that loop of I think it's badfor me, so it becomes bad for me
.
It like why they work well forsome people.
(02:43):
Yeah, like, yeah, we weresaying that, yeah, so this is
kind of building off of that.
If, if someone truly thinks andthis was crazy research that
literally backed up what we werekind of hypothesizing is if
someone really thinks qualityred meat or fish is bad for me
and harming my body, it will itactually will.
Speaker 2 (03:04):
Well, I feel like that's where I definitely
started to incorporate fish andseafood more into my diet.
So we have salmon probably oncea week now and I I wouldn't say
I love it, but I definitelyenjoy it more than I used to.
Yeah, but I feel like it's partof that mindset of my mindset
(03:24):
now is like I'm eating thisbecause I know all the benefits
that it has and I know how goodit is for me, so I'm gonna get
through it, even though I don'tlove the flavor.
I don't love the texture I'mgonna get through it and I feel
like I've slowly started to likeit more and more.
And now this research makes aton of sense on like
rationalizing why that'shappening.
It's because I'm telling myselfI know the benefits, I know how
(03:46):
much good stuff is here, you'regonna like it, you're warming
up to it, yeah.
Speaker 1 (03:51):
Yeah, it's kind of like a maturing way to come at
someone in a quote-unquote uhargument.
You know, it's like, instead ofjust saying this stuff's good
for you and you have to eat andthe other stuff, it's like, well
, maybe you need to take theapproach of these are all of the
documented studies benefits ofthis thing.
(04:11):
You know, if you don't want tobelieve it, that's fine, but I
can't force you.
But maybe you change someone'smind through that stuff, like
you said.
You know, after time you'vecome to see the point that like,
yeah, there's a lot of benefitshere.
That's probably the only waythat's going to change your mind
.
You know, it's not no one canjust sneak it into your diet,
force feed it to you or justtell you how good it is.
You know, you've come to termsyourself.
Speaker 2 (04:32):
Right, well it's.
Yeah, I don't like the odor, Idon't like the texture of the
flavor.
Those are all the things that Ihad issues with because I knew,
because the data behind it oflike you know, like three fatty
acids, dhta, you know so manythings in there that it's the
best way to get it.
It's like you know you might aswell you should do this, you
(04:53):
know embrace a little bit ofsuck.
You know we do things inworkouts, we do things in work
that we don't like doing,because we know the benefits.
I kind of just took the sameapproach with eating fish and
you know, I can't say that Idon't directly see a benefit
from eating fish, you know, butit's, it's not.
A lot of these health thingsaren't short-term gains.
You know the long term.
(05:14):
How is it going to play out?
You know what's.
What's that all going to looklike in the long term?
How's your mental psyche goingto maintain?
Are you going to getalzheimer's, are you not?
You know there's a geneticelement there, but what part of
it's environmental?
What part of it's nutritionbased?
Speaker 1 (05:29):
yeah, yeah, cover all your bases, um.
And then this goes along thesame line of of kind of the
psychology behind it and how youview food, but other things
that we didn't think about, notjust if you like smell it or
whatever, but memories behind it, like your culture behind it,
if you had food scarcity growingup.
(05:49):
So a lot of people you know, we, we look at why overeating is
such a big thing and weobviously in this podcast always
harp on the industrial process,addictive food, because that is
a huge element.
But you know people that mayhave been from certain areas or
cultures or just growing upwhere food was scarce, like you
(06:10):
were programmed when young toeat any and everything you had,
and that doesn't just go away asyou get older.
You know like that's a thingthat happened when you're young.
So you see food as you getolder and you finish everything
on your plate because it's kindof ingrained.
I might not get food for awhile.
Um, yeah I mean there's, youknow we're getting into I guess
(06:32):
the point of this podcast beingpsychology and perception of
food is basically getting intowhat we've said before of diet
does it matter?
You know it's.
It's hard to say, does yourdiet, because someone would run
with that and be like I'm goingto eat McDonald's until it's
like, no, no, not that.
But if you're eating wholefoods, quality foods, does it
(06:53):
matter?
How much carbs Does it matter?
How much fat Does it matter ifit's vegetarian, if it's, you
know, I still have preferencesand I think there's the best
ones.
I still have preferences and Ithink there's the best ones, but
but there's got.
Speaker 2 (07:04):
There's some sort of lower limit where the threshold
is of like these are the basicsyou need to do, cause this is
this you know below this line isunhealthy.
You know getting less thangetting less than 5,000 steps a
day, you know 10,000 is optimal,right, so you know where it's.
Then we're picking a number outof thin air but like, okay,
we're doing less than 5 000,like you're going to see issues
(07:25):
and you know if you'reconstantly, if you're eating
mcdonald's for every single mealor the equivalent, you're going
to see issues.
You know there's literally adocumentary about that.
But you know, looking at thingsthat way of, you know there's a
minimum threshold but abovethat you're saying the research
is saying more, it's morepsychological, it's more you
(07:47):
know what's going on.
Speaker 1 (07:49):
I think so, yeah, based on the research.
I mean that's kind of what I'mconcluding, because, yeah, what
is 10,000 steps versus 11,000?
You know what I mean, butthat's the thing.
Over 95 years, or let's say 85,that extra 1,000 steps every
day will add up.
You know what I mean.
So will it add up to another 30years?
(08:10):
You know, I don't know.
But so it's not to say itdoesn't make a difference.
But then the other things, yeah, do come into play heavily, and
that's that's the brain andyour thoughts, and let's see.
So I got a bunch of notes here.
Yeah, interesting, dude.
That's why I think, in a fieldwith and you know this, I've
(08:33):
went into nutrition, I got outof nutrition, I'm back in
nutrition and I think that'sjust what's causing me to switch
around so many times is, thepeople in the field just seem
stagnant.
See things that like when youwork with a client and you're
like how did that work or howdid that not work, and it starts
(09:00):
to almost get explained throughthis.
You know what I mean.
Speaker 2 (09:03):
Well, I think it's.
It's really what we're talkingabout here with the brain.
Is the human element?
Yeah, Cause the other, uh, youknow, practices are focused on
individual areas.
So you're looking at nutritionvery black and white.
You're looking at workout, veryblack and white.
But because we're humans, it'snot black and white, and what
(09:24):
makes us human is our brain, theability for us to process
things the way we do, the waythat we can think about things,
the fact that we're not justmonkeys.
Speaker 1 (09:35):
Yeah, exactly so, we'll go into a couple.
I think this we're not justmonkeys.
Yeah, exactly, exactly so we'llgo into a couple.
I think this is actually thenext step, a couple of research
studies.
They did that just back up thestuff we've been saying.
So oh, this one was wild.
I didn't tell you about thisone.
The first one is called MindOver Matter.
Mental Training IncreasesPhysical Strength.
(09:55):
If anyone wants to look it up,it's by Aaron Shackle, but in
this study I don't know theexact numbers, so I gave you the
name.
You can look it up.
But there's two groups ofpeople one that was the control
group and did nothing.
They lived their normal life,and one group that visualized
strength training for a certainperiod of time and at the end of
(10:17):
the study the control group hadno change in physical strength,
um, and the group that justvisualized that actually had an
increase in physical strengthfrom the start to the end of the
study and they didn't do anytraining.
The only thing they did was themental training behind it.
Speaker 2 (10:32):
Okay, so no, no actual workouts no actual
workouts, so pretty wild.
Speaker 1 (10:38):
and you know I hear that I'm like okay, well, it's
one study, you know what?
Speaker 2 (10:42):
how much?
I mean how much gain are wetalking about here?
Did it get in?
Speaker 1 (10:45):
we gotta look, we, we gotta look, but we, we can look
it up at the end, um, becauseyou know if they're, you know if
their bench max was.
Speaker 2 (10:52):
You know, say it was 150.
You know it's like theirbenchmark like went to what?
151, 152?
Speaker 1 (10:58):
I mean you're not putting on a plate to do this no
, no, no, I think it's moremarkers of health for strength,
so not like probably the amountof weight they can lift, but
like the markers you see whenyou increase your strength
training.
Those beneficial markers in thebody went up, so not as much as
or neurological and endorphin.
(11:20):
Yeah, and the benefits ofstrength training, as if you
have, like when your body hasmore muscle mass on it,
different signals are goingthroughout your body, so I think
they were seeing more of thosesignals versus like I was able
to actually lift 100 more pounds.
Speaker 2 (11:33):
Gotcha, okay.
So it's not necessarily aquantitative thing, it's more of
a qualitative.
More pounds, gotcha Okay.
So it's not necessarily aquantitative thing, it's more of
a qualitative.
Yeah, okay, that makes moresense then, okay, yeah, yeah, um
, the benefit you get some ofthe benefits of working out by
just visualizing working outjust by visualizing.
Speaker 1 (11:51):
So I mean, why not combine the two when you're
working out?
This is a whole nother episode.
But make it a positiveexperience to yourself.
Visualize you lifting the heavyweight that you want to lift,
psych yourself up, quote unquote, and you know you're kind of
getting both.
You're seeing that you're goingto lift that weight and you're
actually lifting that way.
I mean, that's, that's a doublewhammy, which is pretty crazy.
Speaker 2 (12:13):
I'm even thinking just uh, I'm thinking more
injury recovery, agingpopulations, you know,
populations like a group thatliterally can't work out.
They're bedridden from aninjury, from age, whatever it is
.
This is suggesting that theirfirst step isn't actually
working out, their first stepsvisualizing doing it and not all
(12:35):
.
But I'm headed in the rightdirection.
Speaker 1 (12:41):
Yeah, that's what throws me through a loop too,
though, like you're starting tothink like man, can I just think
things into existence, you know, because you see stuff like
that I believe in that stuff.
Speaker 2 (12:47):
I mean I have no problem telling you I believe in
, you know, law of attraction,that sort of stuff.
I completely believe in that.
I mean I feel like a lot ofstuff in my life has comments as
a result of visualization and,you know, just engaging that
part of your brain.
Speaker 1 (13:02):
You don't chase, you attract.
You know what I mean.
So it's yeah, it's crazy, butwe'll backtrack a second here
because this is what we weretalking about earlier.
I have another study thatrelates to that, but there was
actually a scientific study.
It's called psychosomaticresponse to food intolerances
and this is going along withwhen I said the instructor had
(13:24):
that dairy intolerance and it'sa research study where you
actually can give yourself foodintolerances.
He was saying that most foodintolerances not talking to
allergies here, but just like agluten intolerance or a dairy
intolerance is actually comingfrom the psyche, where it's not.
Now we have other things thatcome into play too, of gut
(13:44):
health and leaky gut.
But you know that they werejust in the study showing the
power of yeah, you can actuallygive yourself if you tell
yourself that food does not workwith me.
Well, you know, like theeasiest example is if someone
says they're eating quality redmeat, they're like yeah, I just
can't do red meat, and you'relike that is one of the least
irritating foods.
(14:05):
So that's when it kind ofraises a flag of.
If someone says they have anintolerance to that, you're like
all right, we can look at maybesome things like stomach acid.
But if that's all good, that'sin your head.
Speaker 2 (14:18):
So crazy that's like stomach acid.
But if that's all good, that'sin your head.
So crazy.
That's interesting and I knowlike in the documentary the
secret, which is about the lawof attraction, they interview
people who had back injuries,had like massive injuries, and
one of their ways to recoverywas they literally just
visualize their body, healing itand fixing it, and so it's the
inverse of what you're talkingabout here, where your body
you're telling your body youhave a problem telling your body
(14:39):
a solution, but both of them,because your brain doesn't know,
negative and positive yourbrain doesn't operate in the
negative you can't tell yourbody.
Speaker 1 (14:46):
I don't like if I tell you don't think about an
elephant, the first thing you dois you think about an elephant
like your brain doesn'trecognize the negative, so your
brain's going to do whatever youtell it to do, whether it's
truly outcome positive ornegative and that's why this
research is so interesting,because there's so many rabbit
holes, like you're explainingmaybe you're explaining how
(15:07):
people heal and it wasunexpected.
Or you're showing how thedialogue in your head is so
important, because that's whatyou're listening to every day
and the downstream effects ofthat.
You know we we're just talkingsurface level right now, but he
gets into and we can get intolike the exact pathways of how
this stress affects what pathwayis.
And it explains so much to mebecause I had a lot of people in
(15:27):
my life that relatively thin,relatively in good shape, you
know nothing that you'd look atand be like, oh, that that's
weird that you have fatty liverdisease or that you have thyroid
problems.
You know nothing that you'dlook at and be like, oh, that
that's weird that you have fattyliver disease or that you have
thyroid problems.
You know, and when I got over,when I saw this information
through the course, I was likeinsane, how stress works on
certain pathways and how manylike how easily it's related to
(15:52):
the most common problems thesedays of low thyroid production
or fatty liver disease.
And it was just like crazy tome because growing up in a
family where no one wasoverweight but still had those
problems.
It was so strange and theynever got answers, because this
part of I wouldn't say it's new,but it's really emerging into
the general population now ofhow well it is.
(16:15):
New Like psychoneuroimmunologyis very new.
There's not even there's likeone school that lets you major
in it right now.
So how the mind affects theimmune system and and our
hormones is very new, but it'sit's crazy well, the other thing
that my mind goes to is likethe religious element to it.
Speaker 2 (16:32):
Like every major religion, you hear stories of
people saying you know, I wasmiraculously healed or this
thing, so I started praying forthis and then it came to me and
it happened.
I feel like it's because, youknow, I'm not trying to play God
here, but you know, if you'repraying to a higher power and
you're consistent, you have aconsistent habit of doing that
(16:58):
habit of doing that.
In doing that, you're going tobe naturally visualizing,
anticipating, thinking about it,priming your mind, doing all
the things that you're talkingabout.
And so you know, if you're, ifyou're asking for healing and
your brain is telling you thatand you firmly believe because
that's the other thing you'llhear with every major religion
you can pray all day, but if youdon't firmly believe it, it's
not you know, god's not going toanswer that prayer, because you
(17:18):
don't believe that god can fixit.
And so this, this argument thereis.
You know, it's not necessarilysaying that it's not god but the
science behind it.
The only thing that science cantrack is the neurological
response.
What's happening?
In the brain, but it'sinteresting that those two
things can correlate togetherand show a similar outcome.
Speaker 1 (17:38):
And I think it's that topic of religion too is you
know, again so many rabbit holes.
But so interesting is I've I'vebeen on every spectrum.
I think of that like findingwhat I believe in, want to
follow, and um, to me I'mgetting to the point where it's
so crazy that they separate thembecause so people can believe
what they want.
(17:58):
I'm not saying this is theanswer, but I'm almost thinking
that, whatever you believe, thecreator has created a human body
that can heal itself so crazily.
So it's like, yes, you can prayto God, but it's not almost
like God is healing you.
It's God gave you the abilitiesto heal your body, and that's
(18:18):
like kind of what I'm seeingthrough research.
Speaker 2 (18:20):
That's just again, just what I believe, but it's
like yeah, I would agree on thatLike every, almost every single
major religion, not almostevery major religion talking
about the big four.
Speaker 1 (18:29):
Yes.
Speaker 2 (18:32):
The way I kind of view it, and a non-contentious
way to view it, but I thinkeverybody should believe in some
sort of higher power and havethat.
Speaker 1 (18:41):
But in all the major religions.
Speaker 2 (18:43):
if you view it in that perspective, those major
religion books then becomemanuals and storytelling to
teach you lessons, to use whatyou were given, which is your
mind, to be able to visualize,and be able to do all these
things and see through the hardtime that you're in, visualize a
positive time out and yourprefrontal cortex is going to
(19:06):
establish that.
Okay, we want there.
It's not your prefrontal cortex, your reticular activating
system will sit there and justconstantly look out for things
that get you closer to that.
It's mind-blowing that it doesit even internally, like it's
not just exterior things you'relooking at, it's it's internally
.
I mean by the sounds of it.
It's literally changing yourmicrobiomes, your digestive
(19:29):
system, you're I mean it'schanging your neurological
responses.
You gotta have some sort ofhormonal impact.
This is.
This is mind blowing, and we'dbe crazy not to bring in the
spiritual element, becausethere's clearly some sort of
interconnection here that's theexact reason we are bringing it
is.
Speaker 1 (19:45):
You know, I didn't plan on going into this because
I'm not even prepared for thattopic.
That's a huge one, but it'sit's just.
You look at this stuff and youthink about some of the power of
these things and you that yougo.
That's just, that's just insanehow you know.
That's like no explanationother than there is no
explanation, you know, I mean,it's like yeah, it blows your
mind right, yeah, don't try toexplain it because it's not
(20:08):
right, um, because yeah, you tryto explain why does your brain,
when you smell something or youknow, do all these things or
you tell yourself it's bad.
Speaker 2 (20:17):
Why does my brain then turn around and make my
body say, yes, this is bad.
That's not habit.
It's like, yeah, if you spendall day trying to explain, why
does it happen?
But, it's really not.
This is more of an observationstyle of this is what's
happening.
It's cool.
How can we harness that power?
Speaker 1 (20:34):
let's not worry about why it's happening yeah, yeah,
yeah, I know, just get thebenefits from it and then if you
always want to dive into, likeit's fun, and look into it and I
say we'll probably goingthrough this.
It's brought up a much betterconversation and it always does
so we'll do a part two of.
I would say part two willreally get into the pathways of
a lot of how the hormones areaffected, how how the thyroid's
(20:56):
affected.
This one we'll just kind ofkeep brushing over Another one
about how the mind affectsexercise.
So there was a study of againtwo groups.
Each group was they wereworkers in a hotel that cleaned
hotel rooms after people usedthem.
They told one group of cleanersthat the cleaning you do is
(21:18):
actually enough exercise to isjust like a good enough exercise
as a workout or something else.
And they didn't tell the othergroup anything.
They just let them do theirnormal job.
The group that they told thatyou know your job, your cleaning
is good exercise as a workout.
They saw health markers improveversus the other group just
(21:42):
because they had the thought intheir mind that what I'm doing
is physical activity is gettingme healthier.
Is just that thought made adifference in their health,
which is wild being told thatyou know.
It kind of goes on to the play,too, of like, of someone giving
you positive encouragement ortelling you you can do this or
(22:02):
you know, I mean yeah, I wasjust gonna say positive
self-talk.
You know if you if you sit thereand say oh, my workout wasn't
good enough today it's gonnahave made it worse.
Speaker 2 (22:11):
It's gonna have a less impact on you than if you
sat there.
Like you know what I tried mybest I put everything I could
into it and you know, I feellike I did something today.
I did enough.
Speaker 1 (22:22):
I'm gonna get stronger.
Yeah, I feel like so.
The other day I did a workoutand I went heavier, not so again
, it plays into the reasons whyyou do it, but I usually go into
it with not good reason.
So I was like I'm going heavytoday just to work some things
out, which is okay as well, butit's heavy for, for the
(22:43):
day-to-day.
It's heavy because that's whatI'm training with.
But when I put it intoperspective of like whoa, no,
this is maybe half of what I canreally do as a one rep, it felt
so much lighter on my back andthe only thing I changed was
that one thought in my head yeah, Well, the funny part too.
Speaker 2 (22:57):
on this same topic, we had a strength trainer in
high school for athletics, andthere was a point at which my
max had capped out, and what hehad done was he actually, I
think I had a 45 on each sideand that was it, and what he did
is he took off the 45 and heput two 25s on and so more
(23:20):
weight, but it looks like it'sless because it's the smaller
plate and and I could do itpowered through it no problem,
and he would.
He would constantly do thatwith people where he was like,
listen, you walk up to that barand you have 245s on there and
one on each side.
Speaker 1 (23:38):
Your mind's telling yourself that is heavy yeah you
throw two 25s on, you're like oh, those aren't that heavy, it's
no big deal literally but youhave 10 more pounds on there I
know it'd be fun to just likeput 10 after 10 after 10 and not
even count and you just keep.
You're like easy.
Speaker 2 (23:53):
So he would do it you know he'd have you put on.
He put on a bunch of weights.
Your plates would be six platesdeep.
He'd be like all right, do it.
There's two and a half in there, there's tens.
He would alternate, so youcouldn't actually calculate.
Speaker 1 (24:08):
Yeah, so mismatched.
Speaker 2 (24:11):
It would look so dumb it's mind games.
It was one of those things thatit's like it allows your brain
not to calculate, so you don'teven know what you're doing, and
he would get people to hit axesthat they just have never hit
before because they didn't knowwhat they were doing so
imprisoned by, like, our owndoubts.
Speaker 1 (24:30):
You know, I mean, it's just like, that's like like
exactly what you said.
It's like two plates like, orfour, you know, two on each side
.
You're like that's heavy, it'slike, but I can do three plates
on each side.
You know what I mean it's.
So then, yeah, it's, I don'tknow it's, it's cool and I think
it's the thing that we know, wesee every day, but we don't
harness the power of um well,it's easy.
Speaker 2 (24:53):
I think it's easier to program the negative, oh yeah
it's easier to complain.
Speaker 1 (24:59):
It's easier to program the negative.
Speaker 2 (25:00):
Oh yeah, it's easier to complain, it's easier to say
I can't do this, because to getin the mindset of I can do this
and maybe this is just a mething, but if I say that I can't
do something, I just acceptthat as fact.
If I say that I can dosomething, why?
How do I know that?
Speaker 1 (25:17):
It's a rational rationalization.
Speaker 2 (25:20):
Isn't that ridiculous reasoning behind it?
You'll accept it.
If you're told you can't dosomething, you'd usually accept
it.
That's why there's all the fearof rejection and there's, you
know, a lot of depression,anxiety, all that stuff.
And it's because if somebodysays something negative to you
you say, oh yeah, I must begarbage.
But if somebody comes over andpraises you, it doesn't have the
(25:40):
equal effect that it does.
Somebody saying like you know,hey, you didn't do a good job
here, versus somebody saying youdid do a good job.
Those two things, for me atleast, don't have the same equal
and opposite reaction.
Speaker 1 (25:56):
Yeah, I'm going to write that down as, like,
negative confirmation holds waymore weight than positive.
Speaker 2 (26:03):
I'm gonna look into that, because that's just it's
true, you need more positives toequal the same as a negative.
Speaker 1 (26:13):
You know definitely, and I, I imagine we know that
biologically we're framed tolook for the thing that's
killing us, the negative.
I just I imagine it's got to godeeper than that too, though.
So that would be interesting.
We'll jump into that, because,yeah, it's because the fact that
we know that should out, shouldbeat that.
You know, like I know, so youget a lot, but it doesn't logic
(26:36):
versus the emotion piece.
Yeah, yeah I know, I know thatI'm always trying to avoid
danger but why don't I?
Speaker 2 (26:42):
celebrate when I find the food right right why don't?
Why don't I celebrate when Ifind life?
Speaker 1 (26:48):
yeah, good, good stuff, all right, we'll do.
We'll do.
That's, that's fun.
We'll do one more.
I think I have one last studyand the only point is to bring
up fun, fun things here and toshow that there's actually
studies behind this.
But this study called mind overmilkshake mindset not just
(27:10):
nutrients determines ghrelinresponse, grounds that hunger
hormone.
Um.
So I told I told I mentionedthis one too briefly the other
day, and this is two groups ofpeople they brought in for a
study.
One group got a drink.
On the label it said like anindulgent, sweet, chocolatey
(27:30):
drink, whatever it may be.
Other group got the same exactdrink but it said like healthy,
fit shake or you know, whateverthe label on that one was.
Both groups drank them and theytimed, like, what their body
did after certain amount of timeafter drinking them and they
showed just the responses inhunger hormones, insulin, like
(27:51):
blood sugar, and how much betterit was, even though the same
exact drink.
But the group that thought itwas a healthy drink, the food
label said you know, protein, nofat, blah, blah, versus the one
that said tons of sugar, tonsof fat, like, made a completely
different response in their body.
Speaker 2 (28:13):
It's just wild, it's funny.
It just occurred to me thatwhat we're talking about is the
placebo effect too, like why theplacebo effect works.
Why can I take a sugar pill andthe pain goes away.
Why can I take a sugar pill andI feel like whatever, you know,
whatever the case may be itshouldn't even be called the
placebo effect.
Speaker 1 (28:33):
It should be called, like, the power of the brain
effect or the power of the mindeffect, because it's it.
Speaker 2 (28:37):
The placebo almost downplays how crazy it is well,
I think it's because the placeboeffect was understood under
this is this is a fake pill,it's a placebo, so does it have
the benefit?
And now we're starting torealize that placebo effect
applies more than just a sugarpill.
That applies to so many morethings, but it's mind-blowing
(28:58):
that.
So your, your insulin and bloodsugar levels have different
responses and the hormoneghrelin.
Speaker 1 (29:07):
Uh, and I'd have to look at the site, right?
Yeah, all the other ones.
I'm just saying those are thetwo for me to like that.
Speaker 2 (29:11):
You know.
Those I could easily understand, you know very easily
conceptually understand of yourblood sugar insulin.
They're directly relateduallyunderstand of your blood sugar
and insulin are directly related.
So blood sugar is probably thesimplest one.
If I eat sugar, my blood sugarshould go up, but this is saying
that they ate sugar and theirblood sugar didn't go up, or
didn't spike at least.
Speaker 1 (29:32):
Thanks for listening to our podcast.
Speaker 2 (29:34):
We hope this helps you on your balance freedom
journey.
Speaker 1 (29:36):
Please share your thoughts in the comments section
below.
Speaker 2 (29:38):
Until next time, stay balanced.
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