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September 10, 2025 50 mins

"Revelation" is about exposing what’s hidden: Vulnerabilities, Truths, and the role of hackers in revealing them.In this conversation, Casey John Ellis, founder of Bugcrowd, shares his journey from a curious child fascinated by technology to a pioneer in crowdsourced security. He discusses the evolution of bug bounty programs, the importance of community in cybersecurity, and the challenges of scaling a startup. Casey also emphasizes the need for good faith hackers, the role of AI in security, and the importance of mentorship in entrepreneurship. He reflects on the changing landscape of cybersecurity and the necessity for collaboration between generations in the field.

00:00 - Introduction and Technical Challenges

02:02 - Casey Ellis: A Journey into Hacking

04:50 - Pioneering Crowdsourced Security with Bug Crowd

07:36 - Building a Community of Hackers

10:36 - Scaling Bug Crowd: Achievements and Growth

13:35 - Unexpected Bug Bounty Submissions

16:32 - Testing Infrastructure: Virtualization and Real-World Applications

19:14 - Advocating for Good Faith Cybersecurity Research

22:11 - Government Engagement and Cyber Policy

25:03 - Adapting to the Current Threat Landscape

26:41 - The Evolving Landscape of Cybersecurity

29:58 - AI and Human Collaboration in Security

34:22 - The Gray Areas of Cyber Ethics

39:50 - Lessons in Entrepreneurship and Leadership

44:17 - Generational Shifts in Cybersecurity Media

46:40 - Finding Balance: Hobbies and Downtime

48:24 - Imagining a Cybersecurity-Themed Bar


SYMLINKS[ Casey John Ellis Blog - https://cje.io ]The personal website of Casey John Ellis, featuring his writings and insights on cybersecurity, hacker rights, and vulnerability research.

[ LinkedIn - https://www.linkedin.com/in/caseyjohnellis ]Casey’s professional profile where he shares career updates and connects with the cybersecurity community.

[ Bluesky - https://caseyjohnellis.bsky.social ]Casey’s Bluesky account for sharing thoughts and engaging with the infosec community.

[ Mastodon - https://infosec.exchange/@caseyjohnellis ]Casey’s Mastodon profile on Infosec Exchange, where he posts updates and insights for the federated social community.

[ X/Twitter - https://x.com/caseyjohnellis ]Casey’s main microblogging profile where he actively shares cybersecurity insights and hacker advocacy.

[ Linktree - https://linktr.ee/caseyjohnellis ]A hub linking to all of Casey’s active social profiles and resources.

[ BugCrowd - https://www.bugcrowd.com ]A leading crowdsourced security platform that connects organizations with a global hacker community to find and fix vulnerabilities.

[ Disclose.io - https://disclose.io ]An open-source project standardizing best practices for vulnerability disclosure programs, enabling safe collaboration between researchers and organizations.

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