Riding Shotgun: Inside the Subie & YOU! Podcast with Rafael Ruiz

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Rafael Ruiz (00:00):
I didn't know, when I first started it, that I was
going to get sponsored.
I didn't know that Subaru ofAmerica was going to reach out
to me and say, hey, we've gotsome opportunities.
We want to run by you.

Tom Anderson (00:27):
All right, welcome in.
It is a new episode of Basic AF.
Tom A, Jeff B.
Back together again for a newshow.
Jeff, how's it going?

Jeff Battersby (00:36):
It's good, tom.
I'm here, I'm breathing, I'mamong the living, I'm doing all
those things.
Yeah, it's good stuff.
Happy to be here, happy to seeyour bright, smiling face.

Likewise.
Likewise, we have a veryspecial guest on this episode.
We have Rafael Ruiz joining us.
He is the host of the Subi andyou podcast.
You've probably heard Jeffrefer a couple of times to the
side project that I have thatSubaru related, and so Rafael
and I have been chatting backand forth for two plus years, I

(01:14):
think at this point, throughInstagram and messages and
everything.
So he has his own podcast forthe Subaru community, the Subi
and you podcast, and has foundsome great success with it.
Well, over 140 episodes,100,000 plus total downloads.
So, rafael, thank you so muchfor joining us.
It's a pleasure to have you.

Yeah, you're welcome.
Thanks for having me on andthanks for that great intro.
You said that you're going tohave somebody very special on,
so I'm wondering who that is.
Okay, sorry, pal, it's you.

The Easter Bunny's not coming to this one.

Yeah, we got a ways for that yeah.

So we know you're slumming with us.
So that's a prettystraightforward.

Yeah, and we do appreciate you taking time to
join us for this one.

Yeah, no, very glad to be here.
It's nice to be a guest onanother podcast.
Right, you don't have much workto do with this one you just
talked to us.

Yeah, nice change Wax eloquent.
Yeah, rafael had me on his show, episode 78, about a year and a
half ago and, to be honest,that's kind of what got the itch
going again for me to want todo podcasting.
Jeff and I did a show withfriend of ours back in 2011 and
we hit 30 couple episodes.

(02:32):
I think it was for that andthen that kind of fell off John
Mangino.
Yeah, Hi John.

We know you listen.

And so he had me on his show and it was a lot of
fun.
We had a great conversation andI was like, hey, that kind of
has me wanting to do this stuffagain, and it took a little
while, but then Jeff and Ireconnected.
But anyhow, we have Rafaelalong.
We want to talk to him abouthis show and how he produces
that, manages it, edits recordsnot necessarily in that order

(03:06):
Systems.
He has apps that he uses,things like that and let you all
get to know him a little bitbetter and, hopefully, enjoy the
show.

Yeah, and I think the starting point is how
did you get started doing this?
It's kind of interestingbecause obviously Subaru's
vehicles.
I'm a genius and we all knowthis already and it's
interesting that you kicked offa podcast.
How did you get started?
Why did you start doing this?

(03:34):
What kind of precipitated that?

I bought a Subaru Crosstrek back in September of
2020 and had no idea that therewas this humongous community out
there.
I knew I wanted a Crosstrek foryears and I also wanted to get
a manual.
So that's a little bitdifferent because they're pretty
rare with the Crosstrek.
So I bought the Crosstrek,started an Instagram account

(04:01):
because I was following someother Subaru's with my personal
account and I started to seereally quickly that people are
very passionate about theirSubaru's, and back then reels
weren't a thing, so there wasn't.
It's mostly just pictures andcaptions.
So I again very quickly sawthat people are passionate.

(04:23):
So I decided because I had donea podcast before this and so I
already had some equipment, kindof knew how to interview people
and I had some ideas of what Iwanted to do.
But I was thinking maybe peoplemight be interested in sharing
more about their car, you know,their mods and then also their

(04:45):
Subaru journey, and I didn'tknow it would become what it has
.
But so that was kind of wherethe idea came from.
And then there's this womanthat does decals.
Her name is Jen.
She goes, her account iseccentric designs and I started
connecting with her, becamefriends, bought some decals and
I got her to be my first guest,and so that was kind of how it

(05:06):
all started.

Very interesting .
So you started that in whatyear you started?
You got your Subaru in 2020.
Yeah, you kicked off thepodcast a long after that.

My first episode released on Monday, january 4th
of 2021, because I wanted torelease it for the new year for
2021.
And I was like, well, january1st is a holiday, so a lot of
people may not listen to it.
It's also on a Friday, sopeople are going to be out
partying and stuff.
Who's going to want to listento a podcast?

(05:40):
So I'm like, let me just do iton Monday and then I'll just
release them every Monday fromthen on.
And so Jen with eccentricdesigns had she had been doing
that for about six months, a lotof people in the community knew
who she and they knew who shewas, who she was, and people
were already buying her decals.
She also has a separate caraccount and a lot of people were
following that.
So having her on is my firstguest and I had put out a little

(06:04):
teaser on my page.
But having her as my firstguest and people seeing that
people kind of freaked out andthen came to the podcast pretty
quickly and just started growingfrom there.
Wow.

That's very smart.

Yeah, absolutely .
So it's really interesting tosee that and then to kind of
pick up, just based on the factthat you saw a couple things on
Instagram, had you seen Tom'sstuff?
Actually, tom, when did you putyour start doing your site?
It's been a couple of years.

Oh, it's been, yeah, nine years now.

Nine years 2014.

Yeah, yeah, okay, which sometimes I wonder that
must be crazy, that's what I'mdoing.

But yeah, well, I mean you get connected with
accounts, especially like in the.
Through Instagram and theSubaru community.
You come across so many peopleand you get connected with so
many people, like I don'tremember how.
I get connected with a lot ofdifferent people.
So I'm sure that I saw Tom'saccount somewhere or somebody
shared it in their stories orsomething, and so I thought it

(07:03):
was really cool what he is doing, because his account isn't he's
not featuring his own Subaru,he's featuring other Subarus,
and so I thought that was reallycool and I reached out to him
and was like asked him if he'dbe interested in being on the
podcast to talk about what he'sbeen doing and, especially since
he's been doing it for so longfeaturing all these other builds

(07:24):
and finding out how he isgetting these people onto his
account, like is he reaching outand asking them for permission
or is he just sharing theiraccounts.
So that was a good episode andinteresting to find out how he
got started, what he was doing,and we've been state connected
and we help each other out.

(07:45):
He's got the newsletter, so heincludes like a rewind for the
podcast and the newsletter,which I very, very much
appreciate and I remember attimes to share in my stories
that he has a newsletter and tryto get people to sign up for it
.

Yeah, and I'm happy to share that.
I think one, because you'rejust such a nice guy.
And you really are, and I thinkthat's part, a big part
actually, of the reason why yourshow has done so well is
because when people sit and theytalk to you and get to know you
and plus you're going out toevents and things now too but

(08:22):
you're, you know, you're just alikable, sincere, good person
and I think that attracts people.
Thank you, thank you.

I hope so.
I have a lot of people say toothat I have a very calming voice
and I was recording with a guy.
I think it was last night.
I was talking to him and hesaid that and I'm like man, I
hope I'm not putting people tosleep while they're driving.

No.

I'm getting it directs because, oh yeah, I was
listening to the Subin U podcastand his calming voice.

Maybe that could be your other gig.

Hey, I've thought about it.
Yeah, there are someopportunities with that.

No, I've actually I took a.
I'm trying to thank you.
I took a voiceover course alittle over a year ago, because
I had so many people complimentmy voice.
I'm like, okay, I guess I havea nice voice, let me see if I
can, you know, give this a shot.
And I've done a couple ofthings so far.

That's great, yeah, and listening to you now,
I'm ready to take a nap.
No, all right, we lost Jeff.
I don't add much to thisanyways, it's been lost for a
while.
So in 2021, january 2021, youkick off your first podcast.
You're now at how many episodesis it again?

(09:46):
You're at 140?

142.
This past Monday I released 142.

142 episodes.

Now does that count?
But you have had bonus episodes.
Yeah, it's not Thanks to you,it's just 142.

I also have bonus episodes.
I have quite a few because Iwent to Subifest California.
I did a bonus episode fromthere because I recorded with
people.
I went to Subaru Flat Fest,which is in Madison, wisconsin.
I have a bonus episode fromthat.
I went to last year.
They had the big event atGilman Subaru Southwest, so I
did a bonus episode from there.
And just recently they hadSubifest Texas and I recorded

(10:23):
with four of the kind of TexasDallas area dealerships and that
was a bonus episode.
But I also did there'ssomething that I did that I
wanted to do more of.
It's just I just don't have alot of time to do it.
But I did one episode with acouple of guys called Tales from
the Trails, where they werejust talking about crazy stuff
that happened while they wereout and hitting some trails,

(10:46):
right.

Which was probably a fun episode to do.

Oh it was, and it was cool too, because I had met
them.
It was with Chris and Juan.
Chris goes by Shadow Roo.
He was episode seven, the onethat I recorded with the funky
phone.
And then Juan he was.
I think it was episode 12.
And so I went to Coloradobecause I was going to do the
episode with them and then Isaid wait a minute, I'm going to

(11:10):
be coming out there and we'regoing to hit some trails
together and I want to waituntil after I come out there so
that I can be part of thatepisode, so we can talk about
Tales from the Trails with me init as well.
So that was what we did.

Nice, nice.
So let's go back to that.
So episode one the early days.
I know we talked a little bitbefore we started to record
about this, but I thought it wasinteresting In the early
beginning, which makes sense theearly beginning not the late
beginning, not the middle.

Yeah, yeah, the middle beginning or the end
beginning.

It's been a long day, so in the early days of
your podcast, what type of asetup did you have?

So back then I had the Scarlett 4i4 and then I had
that going through my MacBookand then my microphone was the
Shure MV88, which is this small,tiny little condenser
microphone that I bought as partof a video kit because I was
thinking that it would be coolto have that and use it at

(12:16):
events or something.
And I bought it before I evenstarted the Subaru podcast,
because I had mentioned earlierthat I had another podcast so,
and it was a vegan themedpodcast and I was going out to
like vegan festivals and stuffand I thought it'd be cool to
have for those kind of eventsGotcha.
So that's what I was using withmy other podcast and that's

(12:36):
what I started off with this one.
And then again, with episodeseven, I ran into the issue of
recording a phone call.
So that was when I upgraded tothe Roadcaster Pro, because it
has the ability to take a phonecall and record that way, which
I really really like, right.

Okay, so Roadcaster Pro, still, you've
got a Shure.
Which Shure do you have there?

So actually I have the this is a Shure, I think
it's the MV7B, because I knowthere's like the MV7 that a lot
of the bigger the.

Joe Rogan mic.
Huh, it's the Joe Rogan mic.
Yeah, yeah, it's a little bitof a crossing.

So this is kind of like the baby brother of that
and I so when I all of myequipment that I used, I ended
up doing a lot of research,looked up a lot of YouTube
videos and that was how Iselected my equipment.
So I got I did.
This was a new mic.
It's relatively new, and sowhen I found out that it was
coming out and it was half thecost, I'm like I'm gonna upgrade

(13:34):
to that, let's do that.

Yeah, I did a lot of the same thing before I
pulled the trigger on.
What I was going to get is likelots of YouTube videos, and
it's a personality defect I havewhere I have to research things
into the dirt.

Oh, I do too.
Yeah, I get that.

So, yeah, I, I, I went deep and I was like, no,
this is too much, I just need tonot think about it so much.
So I just got the Rokaster Pro2, which was the current model
at that point, and the RODE isthe PodMic just because it's
around.
Just keep the stack road, andthat way, if there's any issues
anywhere, it's one place tocontact and license it yeah
that's good.

So what did you?
So I did a lot of my researchwith podcastage I'm guessing
that's how you say it andbecause he does a lot of mic and
podcast equipment reviews, yeah, and and he's got an awesome
setup, which I'm sure is a lotof money, but he talks about

(14:32):
post editing and stuff, which Idon't do any of that because I
just have GarageBand Right, so Idon't have.
I mean, I know there's, I knowthere's plugins and stuff and
there's another podcasting appthat you can use for recording.
I can't remember what it'scalled, but it has some plugins
that you can use and I wasthinking that would be really
nice because there are somethings that cut out some of the

(14:53):
noise that can come through, andbut I mean this program is like
a thousand years old.
This program is like a thousanddollars.
So I'm like um that's how I'llstick with what I'm doing.

Yeah Well, I mean, you're having great success
with it so and yeah, honestly,to me it's like the, and I know
it's changed a lot.
But podcasting in its truestsense to me is this it's three
dudes in closets.
Yeah, because it's the onlyquiet space in the house and but

(15:27):
I think that's really like,that's it's roots, that's where
it came from, um, and then, youknow, it became hip and the, the
big mega corporation, startedto do it.
I heard, where did I hear thissong?
It might have been on, uh, onAdam Curry shows, but he was
talking about that and maybe itwas NPR.
They had like 23 people workingon one show, yeah, and then

(15:50):
they laid them all off becauseit didn't make any money.
And I'm like, well, no kidding,it doesn't make any money, it's
a podcast, yeah.

I mean you have to have thousands of downloads to
make money.
And cause I was, I was watchinga YouTube video.
Cause I use Buzzsprout andBuzzsprout has a YouTube channel
and they have a podcast aboutpodcasting.
So I was watching one of theirYouTube videos and they were
talking about where was I goingwith?
this Uh, oh, they, yeah, so theywere.

(16:18):
They were talking about, uh,downloads and everything, and
they had this woman on thatstarted a true crime podcast,
which apparently those do reallywell.
So maybe that's just what Ineed to do if I want to make
money, right?

But kill somebody and then talk about it,
right yeah?

So.
So she was like, yeah, you know, when I first started out I
wasn't getting that manydownloads.
I mean, I think I was onlygetting like 1500 downloads and,
you know, a week.
And I'm just like what?
Not that many.
So because I know that the waylike sleep number, bed and
better helpcom and all thosecompanies that that are in the
business to sponsor podcasts,they want to sponsor podcasts

(16:57):
that get thousands and thousandsof them downloads because they
need thousands and thousands ofpeople to be listening to it to
get any kind of, you know,exposure out there.
And so, you know, usually withthose you get paid, like if it's
like a 60 second ad at thebeginning of an episode, it's
like 30 bucks for that 60 secondad, so which you think $30

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isn't that much.
But if you take $30 times10,000 downloads per episode and
if you're doing four a month,that's a lot of money, right, I
don't have those kind ofdownloads.

No, you really need those big numbers?
Yeah, Because it'll pay you perYep.
So go ahead, Jeff.
No, no, no, no, no.
Got nothing in.

No, I was going to say that I am thankful to be
sponsored with my podcast.

Nice.
Who sponsors you, by the way?
Let's shut them out here, mightas well.

It's a company called Subaru of America, you
may have heard of it Wow.
Yeah, it's a little company.
Ooh, what a flex.

Now it'll eventually be.
You know that might be bigbusiness in time.

Well, so they have the Subaru gear store where they
have, you know, anything that'sbranded Subaru and Subaru
Motorsports USA, and they sowith the, with the gear store.
They didn't really they don'treally do any advertising, and
so they thought that that wouldbe a good fit for the podcast,
because then that would get thegear store more exposure.

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And so so they startedsponsoring me, and this is we're
in the second year of themsponsoring me Not two years in a
row, but like the second term,if you want to call it and then
I have a wheel sponsor thatsponsors me.
So that's, that's been nice.
And then that woman, jen fromeccentric design, she started
sponsoring me as well.

Right.
I think that's the benefit ofbeing in such a you know
well-defined niche, rightBecause?
It's not just cars right, itcould be anything else.
It's not an automotive show perse, it's really not.
I mean, we talk about Subaru'son the show, but it's, it's more
the story behind the person whodrives it.

Yeah, yeah, and in my probably the last 10 episodes
or so, I started doing an, asegment called to you know the
person behind the account, whereI asked personal questions so
that, because you chat, you canchat with people online a lot
about builds and a little bitabout themselves.
But one of the things that Ifound that people have messaged

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me that they say man, I've beenchatting with this person for so
long and now I get to actuallyhear what they sound like and
learn more about them, and so tohear people say that it's
really meaningful, you know itis.

Definitely is All right.
And so, with the, the show,maybe let's talk a little bit
about how you operate that thing, cause you've got, obviously
you're scheduling that you needto do, you've got recording,
we've talked a bit about thepodcast setup that you have
there, so we've, we've coveredthat, but like, what's You're
doing, travel?
Clearly Right yeah.

Yeah, I have some done, some travel, yeah.
So I use note, my notes app tokeep track of all of my guests.
So I have I have.
So basically have like a subiand you it's kind of like my you
know folder off to the side andthen within that I have a bunch
of different notes that I'veput together and that's where I

(20:16):
compile all of my individualepisodes, where I'll have like
the episode number, what thetitle is going to be, and then
all of the information that I'mgoing to put into my episode
notes.
And then I have a separate onethat I have it's just called
subi and you podcast guests andthat's where I have all of the
guests listed that I've recordedwith and then the ones that are

(20:38):
on my list of ones to get to atsome point.
And I've had some people on thelist for a long time.
I recorded with the guy theother night and well, the one
from Monday had been a year thatwe started talking until I
finally got them on.

Wow.

Yeah.

Do you have guests every show or you're
having?
Okay, you have guests everysingle show.

Except for I have done.
I don't remember if I yeah, soI did.
I think I did it as a bonusepisode, but I haven't really.
I think I've only maybe donetwo solo episodes.
But other than that, I meanit's the point and the I guess
the goal of the podcast is tointerview people within the
community or brands, becauseI've had quite a few brands on

(21:22):
the podcast as well that makeproducts for Subaru only and
then also for Subaru and othercar manufacturers, so that's
been fun when I did so.
When I reached my, I did100,000 download solo episode
and I so that one was a soloepisode and I put in a lot of
statistics of what's happenedover the past 133 episodes and

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100,000 downloads, and at thetime I had recorded with 19
brands out of 133 episodes.
So that was that was.
I didn't even I didn't knowthat the number was that big.
So that was interesting for meto find out.
I knew it was quite a few, butnot that many.

Yeah, it's really impressive.
And then when you record, howfar in advance typically do you
record before the show willactually come out?
Like I'll tell you, our show isusually like a Friday night,
but we're more topical, likeit's kind of it's not
necessarily a new show, but wedo covers.
You know, if it's a big newsstory, we'll cover it, and so

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sometimes it's timely in thatregard and so we'll usually
record like on a Thursday orFriday, and then the show gets
published on Monday.
But sometimes I wish it wasn'tas aggressive, yeah that's
pretty compact, but we make itwork.
But how do you set that up forwhat you're doing?

So I usually I've kind of gone.
It hasn't been consistent.
I usually will try.
So I have my son with me everyother week so I try not to
record the weeks that he's withme and, just, you know, give him
that time.
So I try to record the weekshe's not with me and I generally
would like to record at leasttwo or three episodes a week if

(23:06):
I can.
But at minimum I try to do two,because in that way if somebody
cancels on me then I'm like, ohcrap, now I don't have an
episode for Monday.

Yeah.

So I have done as many as four or five, I think,
in one week, which was it wastough, but it was also nice
because I'm like now I can justkind of sit back and relax and
just edit over the next fewweeks and not have to worry
about that's what we need to do.

Yeah, and we've talked about that.

We've talked about, you know, of piling up a
couple of them.

Probably do that coming up in the well, because
once you hit like November andyou hit the holidays and it's
gonna be tough to do, like youknow, a Thursday and then drop
it on Monday, but I mean, beasleep from Thanksgiving dinner
will be try to do a show, yeah.

Well, yeah, so I tried to get at least a couple
of episodes in.
You know that week that my sonisn't with me, so that for the
next two weeks I can haveepisodes to put out and then,
when I get to that two week mark, again record a couple more.
And it's to keep and I havekept that pretty consistent,
except for lately.
It's just been tough to getthem in there.

Is this your primary line of work?
Is this the only thing thatyou're doing, or do you have a
day job?

I wish it was but no, it is.

I do have a full-time job too.

That's the thing is so.

Which is what?
What do?

you do so.
I'm a project manager for asmall architectural and
engineering firm and you knowit's a good job but it can be
stressful at times because we'vegot a lot of projects going on
and we're always really busy andyou know so it's tough because,
like when I'm recording in theevenings, that's taking up my
own personal time.
When I'm editing in the morningor in the evenings.

that's taking up my own personal time, right and
you have a long, stressful dayat work and then you come home
and then you get to jump rightback into work.
Yeah, and it could be.
It's a lot Sometimes wonder whyI do all the side things.
I have going on and told Jeffit's like, ah, maybe rethink
some of the things.

but I mean, thankfully, I work from home, so
the only days that I don't workfrom home are on Mondays, so
like yesterday.
So we're recording this onTuesday night and.
I recorded an episode on aMonday and that was tough
because I had set it up torecord at seven, I believe, and
I got home at like 640.

So I messaged the guy and I was like hey.

I need a few more minutes.
And he was like, yeah, sure, noproblem.
So, yeah, I try to get those inso, like you know, I don't have
to like get home from work.
So I try to schedule themaround seven or seven, 30 my
time, so that I can have sometime to eat and just relax,
cause I just because it's fiveo'clock doesn't mean I'm done

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with work, cause a lot of timesI might work till 535, 45 or six
, depending on what we've gotgoing on.
And then I'm like okay, nowonly have an hour before I have
to record, Then we chat for awhile, then we record the
episode, which can be anywherefrom an hour and 20 minutes to
an hour and a half, and then wechat for a while.
So then there goes two hours.
So now by the time I'm done,it's like nine o'clock and I'm

(26:10):
like now I gotta start thinkingabout getting ready for bed.
Yeah, pretty much, even thoughI don't go to bed that early.

Right.
So we had conversations likebefore just phone calls and
things where we were talking andboth of us kind of talking
about that balance betweenprimary work and inside hustles
and things and those I think youmentioned back then you know.
So you know it's 11 o'clock andyou'd just gotten back from a
road trip and you had a show toedit and Monday's coming up.

(26:37):
So you said you had to do itand you did.

Yeah, Well, yeah, and that's the thing too is my
previous job.
I used to travel, so if I wasgonna have to be gone for like
two or three days some week,then I had to schedule around
that.
And that was a lot tougher whenI was traveling because I would
get sometimes we would, youknow, I'd get home and I'm like,
oh man, I gotta edit.
I might get home on a Friday orsomething and like I gotta edit

(27:02):
this episode before Monday, butI've got plans for the weekend
and so just trying to squeezeeverything in is, you know,
tough sometimes.

So let me ask you this, and I'll pose this to both
of you, all right, why do youthink we do these things Like?
Because, I mean, we've talkedabout it.
It's you've got the grind ofwork, you've got family life,
you got dinner, you need somedecompressed time, and then we
say you know what I'd like to doin the non-spare time that I

(27:33):
have?
I'd like to do some more work,but I'm not getting paid for, so
it's a labor of love.
I mean, there's no, noconsiderable income.
I speak for Jeff and I.
Raffiato, I don't know yoursituation, but yeah.
You said it wasn't yourfull-time job, so we'll go with
that.
So what drives you to do theshow?
You asking me, or Jeff?

(27:54):
I know Jeff, he just likes tosee my face.

I'm more curious about yours.
This is my social club.

This is.

Tom's basically the only friend I have, except
for Steve.
Steve, you're my friend too,but Tom's, tom's like I said, I
live in Jeffrey Dahmer'sbasement.
That's where I'm at right now.
There's not much going on ifI'm not out collecting heads.
So yeah, I do it for the fun ofit.

(28:25):
I really this is an avocationfor me.
I have a few of these, actuallyA few live-in theaters.
No, no, no, no.
Oh, I was on the board of alocal theater for up until June
of this year, but also I do alot of theater work.
In fact, this week, starting onThursday evening, we're in tech

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for a readers theaterproduction that's gonna run on
the weekend.
So I've got tech and then I'vegot four shows.
So that's obviously anotheroutlet.
But this is to me, this iscreative, it's a creative outlet
.
And, for the record, I mean Tomdoes most of the late work on
this.
He does the hard work.
I show up and try to be funnyRarely am I, but I try to be,

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try to add some 15-inch humorinto this conversation.

There, it is 35 minutes in.
That's right, that's a recordfor us.
Yeah, well, it is.

So for me this is a fun thing to do, and the
only thing that I do after thisis Tom does whatever editing
there is, and usually it'spretty much straight from tape
to live, and then I listen to itto make sure that there's
nothing to egregious in itbefore we send it out.

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So that's kind of my piece, andI can do that while I'm washing
dishes.

Yeah, yeah, for me again.
I just I bought the Subarubecause I'd been wanting a
Subaru Cross Trek for a longtime, for at least five years.
So when I bought it I was justthinking, hey, I have this car
that has the ability to go offroad.
I didn't know how capable itwas, but I mean I'd watched some

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YouTube videos so I knew it waspretty capable.
But I'm also watching theseYouTube videos, thinking I have
nothing like that around where Iam, but when we have our annual
family reunion there's somecounty roads up there that might
be fun, and that was like whatI was thinking would be at the
extent of it.
So when I started connectingwith all these people and seeing

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their passion, then my passiongrew seeing what they were doing
and connecting with people.
And then so when I started,when I had the idea to do the
podcast to give because it'sreally to give people a place to
share about their build andtheir journey and about
themselves, and because the lastquestion that I asked is like

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how is owning a Subaru changeyour life?
And so that's where we reallyget into.
It's more than just about a car.
But for me, I enjoy connectingwith people.
I enjoy helping people to sharetheir stories and I didn't know
when I first started it that Iwas going to get sponsored.
I didn't know that Subaru ofAmerica was going to reach out

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to me and say, hey, we've gotsome opportunities we want to
run by you.
I didn't know that I would begoing out to all these events.
I didn't even know about theSubifest events, I didn't know
about Winterfest, I didn't know,I mean, there was so much I
didn't know about Subaru.
So for me, I enjoy doing it tojust it's kind of my way to be a
part of the community.

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But also the messages that Iget from people is that's a
really big part of what helps mekeep going, as people reaching
out and saying thank you fordoing this, keep doing it, we
love it and we look forward toit every Monday.

Yeah, I think they've definitely made.
You've made a connection withthem and, through extension,
they've made more connectionsinto the community, I think.

Yeah, because I've had so many people say that it's
helped connect the community ina way that has never been there
before.
And then I've had people say,oh man, I've been looking for a
Subaru podcast for a long timeand I just Googled and I came
across yours or somebody mightsee it in somebody's stories and
be like, oh, that's how I cameacross the podcast.

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And then there's people thathave I've never listened to a
podcast ever in my life and thisis the only one that I listen
to.
Or I've never listened to apodcast.
I listened to this one and nowI've started listening to some
other ones too, because I likethe platform and I like the
concept of it.

Right, yeah, and I think what's interesting
about Subarus in general is itreally is people that have
Subarus, or tend to have Subarus, tend to be people that are
outside a lot.
They're camping.
I don't want to generalize toomuch, but you don't hear about
the Buick podcast.
There might be, but not, butnot Delta 88.

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Got my Delta 88 and we're readyto go, boys.

My mom had a Delta 88.
That was a thing.

It definitely was a thing, but it definitely
seems like a very connectedcommunity.
In fact, when Tom first starteddoing his Instagram, I was at
that time driving a Subaru myson's driving that one now, as
we said earlier.
But the growth of his Instagramwas insane to me, like some

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teeny tiny little Instagram thathe just put up because he likes
Subarus On a whim.
Yeah, it was just kind of a funthing, and how many people do
you have following that now?
I already asked that, I think.

About 40,000, a little over that, but it's
gotten pretty stagnated of latebecause of the platform changes
Like yeah.

Instagram.

I think Rafael mentioned it earlier, but like
with the reels and video andthings like that.

Instagram is trying to be.

They want to be TikTok, because TikTok's eating
their lunch which is funny,though and Twitter's, which is
their so-called Twitter thing,has actually become a pretty
good photo-sharing platform.
Oh nice, and which makes sensewhen you think about it, because
when you join threads, you joinwith your Instagram account.

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So if you already have theInstagram account, that kind of
leads to think, well, you'reprobably like photography, at
least back in the day.
I don't know.
I mean, you know, maybe peoplejust joined for reels and stuff
now, but so it's actually becomepretty good for that.
But I'm sure video won't takeit over eventually as well.

Yeah, and when they started coming, when people
started doing reels, I was likeI love doing photos, I am not
gonna do reels, and now I do alot of reels.
But.
But I'm starting to do thereels because I've found ways to
get creative with it and I'vestarted using this app called
cap cut, and cap cut is reallyfun to put stuff together.

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So I've just I've been havingfun with it.
Nice, so I enjoy doing reelsnow.

It's definitely the reason to do it.

Yeah, so with your.

I'm sorry, go ahead.

Yeah, no, I just I was gonna say real quick because
, like I, so I have a.
I have a patreon account also,so I have patrons that you know
sign up and help support thepodcast.
And we were having a chat theother night and we were talking
about posting and how you knowwe've there were several of us
that were saying that we arejust gonna post whenever we want

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to and not try to, you know,post on a regular schedule or
post just a post, and so I'mkind of getting more like that
with my car account.
But I have a wheel sponsor, sowe have wheel Wednesday, so I
have to make sure and try tocome up with something to post
for that right, and but otherthan that, you know I just in
living in Houston.
There's not much here, so itgets kind of boring at times and

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I just feel like I don't havemuch content to post need to
head down to Nolence.

Urban drive around downtown Houston and stuff.

Yeah.
Yeah, I mean there's stuff here, but like the other, I mean
last week it rained, so Thursdaynight I met up with some people
and I went mutting and it wasso much fun.
I mean but but we have.
So we have a lot of Privateland in Texas, so there's very
few spots that we can find, andthere's this one spot that's

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maybe like 200 feet long in thislittle grassy area and just go
around Around the same spot butI mean I was drifting through
this turn and it was so much fun.
If you look at my reels now,well, my stories on Pearl's page
.
I did a little clip of it and Imean I just I put there I could
do this all day and I literallycould have.

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I mean it was so much fun.
But funny.
So Every once in a while, likeif we get some rain and some mud
and we can go out and have somefun, then then there's some
content.

Yeah, and then you see places like you know, the
Pacific Northwest.

And they suck yeah New.

York, where I'm at.

Yeah you're in a beautiful area too.
I mean it's nice where.

I'm at too.
I mean we're in the valley here, but we've got mountain ranges
both sides.
I mean two hours and I'm prettydeep in country in West
Virginia, which you know prettyplace.

Yeah, I mean, there's just no coverage shaft
post later.
Yeah, I mean, see, and I, when Idiscovered mountains going out
to Colorado for work years ago,I fell in love with mountains,
and Mountains are so far fromwhere we are.
I mean it's to get into anykind of mountains that are
decent.
I mean it's like a 15-hourdrive.

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We've got some stuff out inWest Texas and there's some like
a bit.
There's a big canyon, there'sPalo Duro Canyon out there,
which is Apparently it'sreferred to the as the Grand
Canyon of Texas and it'sbeautiful.
But I love mountains.
I mean I would, I could be inmountains every day.

Jeff is yeah, I'm in mountains and I actually,
and I know the feel.
I lived in East Texas for threeand a half years.

Oh, we're at up by Tyler, okay so you know where
alto is, or do you remember?

I don't remember out now.

Okay, I don't think it's too far from Tyler, but
that's where a lot of my familyis from is from alto.

Got it.

every time I hear of Tyler Texas, I think of
the Tote's oh yeah, I think ofthe roses, because it's the rose
capital of Texas as well.

So they grow the.

Tyler Rose in.

Texas geography lesson for today.

There you go, you got your special thing.
But I moved there fromCalifornia and, man, I was lost.
I, you know, I used to to spendmy summers in the Sierra and
and it was humid and oh yeah,and the stuff that they called
mountains, it was like.

Hills.

That's not even a hill pal, it's an overpass.

That's a, you know, a small uphill climb.

Yeah, I'm talking about.

Oakland Hills were you know five times what
what East Texas had.
So I feel you that's inHouston's particularly flat,
that whole area is not, there'snot a, there's not a hill around
and, like you said, not notanything particularly close.
That's easy to get to.
So so that's interesting.
So you doing little mud runs.

Well y'all.
So you asked me about my jobearlier, and then you brought up
Tyler.
We're actually working on threeprojects in Tyler right now.

Interesting, yeah, there you go Nice tie in there
too.

Yeah, I'm getting better at that.
Yeah, my own podcast I'll.
Somebody will say something andit'll spark a question that's
coming up and I'll use whateverthey said to tie in that next
question.

Right, good, yes , Turn it into a radio man and
you are so.

So that's the one thing that I didn't mention is,
whenever I have because I haveguests, I always come up with
questions and I send thequestions out to my guests ahead
of time so that they can Lookthem over, so they can be more
prepared for the episode too,because I asked some deep
questions sometimes.

So what you're saying is we sucker punched you.
Is that the deal?
No, no, you're here with no, noquestions ahead of time.
So you know I like this.

It's free for yeah, I like the free form.
I mean I've done that.
I've done a couple of episodesfreeform like that and Early on,
so I wasn't as preparedmentally, like I didn't have it
all together so but I mean itstill turned out well.
But I yeah it's.
I have found that I've beenlistening to several podcasts
recently that have co-hosts andI really love the co-host.

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Like I would love to do anotherPodcast with a co-host.
That'd be.
I think that'd be a lot of fun.

Yeah, that makes this, I will say, easier for us
.
You know a little little inInside baseball but we, speaking
of Houston, one again tonight,by the way Thank, maybe they're
playing now, I don't know butthe yeah, there's something to
be said for having two of us.

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So you know, there's.
There's that.
First of all, there's rapportthat Tom and I have.
You know that we've had prettymuch since we became friends.
I would say, you know, yeah,kind of had that little, that
little back-and-forth going on.
But it definitely makes adifference when you're playing
off of each other and and, yeah,I could, I could see where it's

(41:32):
hard if you're the one that'sdriving the conversation always,
yeah, that that can be.
I'm sure that can bechallenging.

Yeah, I mean there's there's times where I
mean, most of the time, we getinto pretty good conversation
because the questions will sparkConversation, and then, you
know, I don't stick to just myquestions because somebody will
say something and it'll sparkanother question.
And I mean, like the one Irecorded last night, we got into
all kinds of conversations.
I asked a bunch of differentquestions and I think I'd only

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asked like two of my actualquestions.
But then I've had people whereI'll ask them a question and
then they give a very briefresponse and there's no
conversation around the questionand there could have been so
much more conversation.
So though, I asked them aquestion and they'll be like
blah, blah, blah, blah, blah,blah, and then I'm like thinking

(42:22):
that's it.
And then there's this awkwardsilence for a while and then I'm
like thinking okay, I guess I'mgoing to the next question, so,
and then it's just it's.
I've.
I think I've had two episodesonly out of 142, which isn't bad
, where it was like that, whereI'm just like this is so painful
, like I'm not even reallyenjoying this that much.
Yeah, it's a no conversation,yeah, well, I go and cry and

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drink.

Yeah, it's a If you're the one that's always
pushing something and you don'thave people.
You know this is improv to someextent, so it's, you know, yes
and yes and yes, and you knowyou're you're you're leaning
into the conversation, trying to.
Nobody likes dead air.
That's where editing comes in,yeah well, that's, that is true,

(43:12):
editing does make up for deadair and, you know, hacking a
lung out or something like that,but it's If it's, if there is
no back and forth with a guest,and you see then why.
You know, guys like God resthis soul, dynamists and these
people who had, you know, theyhad people cackling in the
background all the time too.
You know there's somebodyalways bringing something in, so

(43:34):
there's, so there's Something,something going on there.
But if you're the one that'srunning the show and you've got
a guess, it's going yes, yeah,mm-hmm.
Oh, I do that.
Yeah, mm-hmm, yeah, thatdoesn't want to say anything.
It becomes difficult to uh, youknow, to do that, to do the job

(43:55):
for sure.

Well, I mentioned editing and you had asked me
about editing earlier, tom, butso I use garage band to record
into garage band and then that'swhere I do all of my editing.
So all the brain farts and thedead air and the you know,
Coughs or whatever, or therepetitive words, then I'll go

(44:17):
through and cut that out.
So sometimes editing, I've hadpeople ask me like, well, how
long does editing take?
I said, well, at least as longas the actual episode plus
However long it takes me to getall the extra stuff out of there
.
So sometimes if it's an hourand a half episode, it could
take me as long as three or fourhours Just to yeah, it takes me
probably 90 minutes for like,if we do an hour Episode yeah,

(44:42):
which is what we try to keep itto.

We try to not get it past.
You know, right now, you know,steve is done with the gym for
the day, and so he's uh.
He's saving the rest of itMaros Gym trip, you know.
So we try to keep it in thatlittle window, but have you have
you done any editing like thisgarage band?

do this where you can edit in like one in a
quarter, one and a half speed.

I don't know, I've never looked at that.

Yeah, so I edit with an app on the iPad called
ferrite that I heard some peoplerecommend and it think it goes
up maybe even to 2x, and I triedit.
I couldn't do it.
I was like no, no, no, no, no,that's, that's yeah for one.
I haven't done it long enoughto be that comfortable just with
the process again, and so I waslike, yeah, but so that's why

(45:30):
it takes 90 minutes to do the,to do the thing, sometimes
longer.
I did one I don't know Jeffthree, three episodes, four
episodes ago, where I got about40 minutes into it and then I
totally botched the edit andstart over.
Are you kidding?
And so that was a long weekend,but so you use garage.

(45:51):
Why I say Tom has the painfulyeah and editing what you
mentioned cap, cut and notes.
Are there any other apps thatyou kind of lean on for you?
Just probably just Google foryour calendar.
I know you've got a Gmailaddress and stuff, but I
actually, I mean, I don't really.

Yeah, I mean I use a calendar sometimes, like I use
Google calendar to Just remindmyself that I have an episode
coming up.
But I so what I do in my notesapp is I'm in, I'm in there, a
lot is.
I kind of just know that I havean episode coming up, but in
the episode or in my notes app,where I have all the guests
listed, listed, I will put thethe episode number, their

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Instagram handle, their name,what date I'm recording and at
what time, their email addressand then when I'm gonna release
the episode.
So that's the information Ihave for each one of them.

Gotcha, yeah, yeah , I like it.

Yeah, and I took a.
I took a podcast trainingcourse a long time ago.
As I mentioned, I was.
I did a vegan podcast the vegantheme podcast before this, and
there were some people that Ihad connected with and they were
trying to roll out like thispodcast training program.
And they reached out to mebecause we had been
communicating a lot.

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And they reached out, said hey,would you like to be part of
this like pilot program, andwe'll give you like a highly
discounted rate.
And I said sure.
So I ended up taking the classand they were using garage band.
But at the time I had an HP andI was like I don't know how to
use audacity or anything elsereally, and I'm learning what to

(47:30):
do through garage band.
I'm not sure what to do with it.
I'm just gonna go back to thevideo and I'm learning what to
do through garage band.
So I got a pretty good amountback in my taxes right after
that and it was right.
Before I started the otherpodcast, my first podcast, and
I'd been wanting a Mac forever.
I used to work at CompUSA wayback in the day and my best

(47:52):
friend was like the.
Mac person there at CompUSA andso we had one of the back areas
where all the Macs were and shewas always back there talking to
people and she had Macs at homeand I've always been curious
about them.
But even back then I don't eventhink I had my own computer,

(48:13):
but I just had this fascinationwith Macs because they were
different and I've always beenfascinated with things that were
different.
So I get my tax return and I'mlike I'm getting a Macbook.
So I got a Macbook Pro and thatwas how that started and I was
like, thank goodness, I havesomething that I can use.
You know, I've got GarageBandnow, so I'm happy.

(48:33):
But I also have this awesomecomputer that I know is going to
last a really long time andperform well.
It will.
Oh yeah, now I actuallyupgraded to.
I don't know, it might bedowngraded, but I gave my son my
Macbook Pro and I got a MacbookAir with the M2 chip because I
wanted that was an upgrade.
Yeah, so I wanted my other Mac.

(48:57):
The fans kept turning on withmy other.
Macbook.
Oh yeah, and it was so loud andmy mic could hear the fans, so
you want to know how I operate.
So this is one of the thingsthat I used to do.
I have these big rectangularice packs that are about the
same shape as the Macbook, so Iwould get a towel and I would

(49:19):
put it over the ice pack andthen put my Macbook on top of
the ice pack so that it wouldkeep it cool.
And it worked a lot of times,except for the two times.
There was one night that I waslike, okay, I'm done recording,
I could go to the bathroom, Icould do some other stuff, and I
left my Macbook sitting on topof the ice pack all night long

(49:40):
and I came back into my closetthe next morning.
Oh my God.
There was condensation all overthe keyboard and I was like, oh
God, no, this is not happening.
So I immediately wiped it off,of course.
I took it off the ice pack andI just let it sit out and kind

(50:00):
of air out and it you know.
So it was still working andthen, like I think it was like a
couple of days later itwouldn't turn on.

And I was like oh God, no no, no, no.

This cannot be happening.
So I forgot what I did, but Ijust closed it, let it sit there
for a while, opened it back upand it finally started working
again, and it was working fineafter that.
That's close.

Yeah.

Yeah, and then I did it again, but I caught it a
little bit sooner than the lasttime.
It only been sitting there forlike a couple of hours.
So, yeah, when I found out andthen again I was doing some
research when I found out thatthe MacBook Air didn't have fans
I'm like I've got to get one.
It's smaller, it's moreportable, it's powerful.

Battery lasts forever.

Yeah, and it's like I'm not doing a bunch of crazy.
You know video stuff oranything.
Just you know it's a computer.
Everybody needs a computerpretty much these days and it's
going to do what I need it to do, and so you know.
Now my son wants a MacBook Airbecause he's got the MacBook Pro
and he's like the fans are soloud, yeah, but I mean, you know

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I was thankful to be able togive him a MacBook at 16.

No doubt, yeah, yeah.
So did you get the 13?

inch MacBook Air.
Yeah, yeah, I mean, thatscreen's big enough for me, and
my girlfriend has a MacBook Prowith a 17 inch screen or maybe
the 15 inch?
What do they have?
15 or 16.

These days 15.
The new one's, 16.
16 MacBook Air.
Okay.

So maybe yeah, so hers must be, at least, I guess,
the 15.
But she was like your MacBookis so small, like how can you
stand it?

I'm like.

I love it.

It's fine, it's light, it's easy to carry around
.

It is so light.

Yeah, and the screen is plenty big for me.
I don't need anything bigger,but it'd be nice to have a
separate screen though.

Yeah, we deployed a bunch of those MacBook Airs to
our students that work thisfall, so 800 and a couple Nice.
So we've been using one for sixmonths.
No, no, probably now it'scloser to nine or 10.
But yeah, it's been great Likeno heat issues?
Yeah, obviously no fans, becauseit doesn't have one, but it
doesn't need more mop to reallyeven kick the fan on if it did.

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Now my personal one's the 16inch MacBook Pro, because I like
the bigger screen, but to behonest, I don't use it that much
Like I've got a Mac mini that'son my desk or I've got an
external display hooked up tothat I usually use that or the
iPad I have, but I think if the15 inch MacBook Pro or, I'm
sorry, the 15 inch MacBook Airwould have been available when I

(52:31):
was buying, I would have gottenthat instead.
Yeah.

But it wasn't.
Yeah, my son, my son's my oldMacBook Pro.
Now on the right side of thescreen it's got some lines going
up and down on it.
I don't know what I mean.
He says he didn't drop it, butI know he's had it in his
backpack and he's dropped hisbackpack down kind of hard a few
times, so that may have been acause of this?

Yeah, those are so thin.
Like they're I won't saydelicate necessarily, but
they're not.
There's not a lot of leewaythere for the screen to kind of
get pressed on something, butyeah.

So I'm thinking about getting seen if I don't
know if they would give meanything for it because of that,
but seeing if I can do like atrade in what year is?
It.
It's a 2016, I think, or 17maybe.

I mean it still works fine, but yeah, they might
throw you a couple of bucks.
I wonder that that seems likeit's at the border of.
Is that still Intel processorsin that one?
I think so, yeah, yeah, sothose things are vintage.

Yeah, had the scissor or the butterfly
keyboard too, so the keyboardswere real problematic.
You haven't had any keyboardproblems with it since you've
had it.

No Good, and it had the little slide bar on it too,
right Touch bar thing.

Yeah, touch bar.
Yeah, yep iPhone, I'm assuming.
Yeah, I have.

So I've kind of been behind on the iPhones.
But I had an iPhone SE for awhile and then what was the one
that they came out with?
That was like the 10X orsomething like that was a little
bit bigger.
It was kind of like an offmodel that they had for a while
I think I can't remember, but itwas when the 10 came out and it
was like a 10X and I was likethis is a little too big for me.

(54:21):
So I went back down to the SEand then, about six months ago
or more, I actually went downbecause it's small, a little bit
smaller, but I went to theiPhone 13 mini.
And I really like it a lot.

It fits in my hands.
Better it fits in my hands,better they don't make it
anymore.

Do what yeah?

They're not making it anymore.

Yeah, Well, not the 13, right.

I think the mini has a plastic hole.
Yeah, I think it's a little.

And I just I don't know if you listened to
the last show or our last show,but I I listened to about half
of it, I think maybe.
No, so that's all we're goodfor.

Hey, you're not wrong.

Yeah, I couldn't get past the 15 inches though.

So I have a new 15 and I had the 13 before that
and I love the 15.
I'm happy with the cameras init, but I probably didn't need
to upgrade.

Yeah.

That's what we said in the last show.

Yeah, you were saying I don't need to get a
thousand dollar camera every twoyears.
No right, I don't.

I really don't.
I did listen to the first half.

He did, I was complaining about the watch.

Oh, that's something.

I'd have to go finish it up now.
Yeah, no, but I mean I like the13 mini because it's like I
just I don't like a big giantphone.
I had one that was a little bitbigger before and I just, like
you know, I'm like stretching mythumb way up, you know, and
then trying to do the reachableor whatever, and or touch

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ability.
I can't remember what it'scalled, but yeah, I know them.
I know my phone can do a lotmore than I use it for.

It's my go-to camera.
That's really what it is.
And then you know, yeah, when Ihave to answer Tom's texts
about how crappy is watch OS isyeah those.

I have an old Apple watch I think it's the third or
something, I can't remember butI bought it bought it mainly
and it doesn't have it just haswifi.
It doesn't have cellular.
Because I'm like I'm not I knowI'm not going to use it that
much, but I bought it mostly forI bought it one, because there
was a lot of times when I waslike in a noisy place or

(56:41):
something and I'm like if I gota text message I didn't feel
that somebody texted me, or ifsomebody was calling me, I was
like it'd be nice to know ifsomebody's texting me or calling
me, because then I could justsee it on my watch.
But then I also got it forrunning too, to use the app on
that, which was really nice NikeRun app.

Just, you still do daily wear that, or is it just
here and there?

No, yeah, it's just here and there, mostly lately,
just when I go running, becauseI tried to wear it and use it
for that and I just I never gotinto it.

And Jeff's got a similar story, Like he tried way
back when and has.
Well, you've been with theUltraWatch for a while now.

It'll be a year in November and I'm not afraid
to evaluate or reevaluate.
I'm happy with it.
You know, in particular, I usedit this weekend for hiking and
used the All Trails app.
I didn't use Apple's Baps forthat for hiking this past
weekend, but it's great for that.

(57:40):
I can see where I am, you know,on the trail.
Really good, really good traildirection.
So that's a great thing.
I still have the phone with me,though, because I'm going to
take pictures with my phone, butI don't have to keep on hauling
that out of my pocket to seewhere the trail is.
I can just look at the watch.
So, yeah, but my initialexperience was I gave it to my

(58:02):
son after six months.
I just didn't.
I never have.
This is the first time I'veworn a watch, probably in my
life, and I've had this for ayear almost, and sometimes I
still forget about it.
I did this morning.
I didn't put it on until youknow an hour or so after I
started my day, and that's okay.

(58:23):
I don't feel I like having it,but I don't feel bound to wear
it all the time.

Yeah, I've been trying to not be with my phone
as much.
I'm just kind of getting towhere you know, if it wasn't,
for I mean, because I have thepodcast, I like to stay engaged.
And then you know, again, withmy car account it's not.
There's not as much there, butbecause of the podcast I try to

(58:51):
keep up with it, and then mygirlfriend and my son and stuff.
But there's been times when I'mlike I'm going to go out to my
car and clean it up and do someother stuff and I'm going to
leave my phone in the apartmentand it's a really good feeling.

Yeah, I feel that.
Definitely good to not be tiedto those things.
Yeah, which is easier said thandone sometimes.

Oh 100%.
Yeah, but you know what did wedo back in the day, you know.

Well, we did read a book, magazines and TV shows
and baseball games, and you knowI think we mentioned this
there's, you can look it up, butthere's like a picture of
someone posted is like here areall the things that have been
replaced by the smartphone andit's like a huge table full of
stuff, right Like video camera,cassette recorders and books and

(59:43):
TVs and all these things.
So it's, it's one of thosedouble-edged swords.
It's like, yeah, spend a bunchof time on there and be
productive, learn a lot of stuff.
I mean, look how much we talkedabout YouTube earlier.
As you know, that's where wewent to research things.
So you know, good and bad, nosurprise.

Rafael Ruiz (01:00:04):
Yeah, I mean, I think the cell phone is.
It is pretty amazing because,you know, you think back to back
in the day when we were younger.
If you're driving around, you'vegot a bunch of tapes, you know,
If you're outside and you wantto listen to music if you're not
in your car, if you're not athome, well, I got to bring a
Walkman, you know, with someheadphones and yeah, like you

(01:00:27):
said, what all the devices thatit's replaced I mean.
To me, I think, the biggestthing with having a phone and
what the capability is theamount of music that you can
have right there.
Too much Because, yeah, I mean,yeah there's.
There's just a humongousselection, but I mean it's
pretty amazing because you don'thave to deal with a see.

(01:00:48):
I mean there's still somethingnostalgic about touching
something and you know puttingit in the CD player and all that
kind of stuff, but they havethe ability to just scroll and
find a song within seconds.
That's pretty awesome, yeah.

Tom Anderson (01:01:02):
I like that.
Yeah, I've found some oldalbums in the garage.
A couple of weekends ago I wascleaning some things out and
like it's more iron maiden andBeastie Boys and stuff.
But you take those out and youlook and so you know you'd be,
you'd be playing the record, butthen the liner notes and
everything that were on the youknow, the sleeve that the album
was in was became such a part ofthat experience back then right

(01:01:25):
.
Because it's like you know,maybe it had the lyrics, maybe
it didn't, but it would havesomething right that you gave.
Some of them were just pictures, but you could look at the
pictures, like granted youdidn't do that every time you
played it.
Usually it's the first time,but it was part of the
experience that we don't reallyget now.
I think you get some animatedartwork for playlists and stuff
like that on the Apple Music appand I'm not really looking at

(01:01:47):
that.

Jeff Battersby (01:01:48):
Yeah, and actually the new version of the
Apple Music app also has you cansee those kinds of details and
not so much.
You know there's not linernotes that I've seen yet, but
there's definitely there's.
If you go to a song, you cansee who the instrumentalists
were on the song.
You can see all that stuff.
Now that's all new in thelatest version of the music app,
which I do like.

(01:02:08):
I like the ability to be ableto go look at that, look at the
lyrics, and I use the lyricsfeature constantly, like I'm
constantly paying attention towhat's going on, which I've been
doing since I was old enough tolisten to music.
You know that's kind of the wayI played that game, but yeah,
it's the physical.
I still have LPs upstairs thatyou know I don't have a great

(01:02:33):
turntable, but I have aturntable that I can throw those
on.
There are a couple of bandsthat it's like ah yeah, I
definitely want to get on thereAnother hip again, so you can
probably find them.

They are, yeah, audio tech.
There's like two record storesin town here.
Audio tech.
I can make one that's prettygood and that's probably what
I'm going to get my son forChristmas, because he likes
listening to records and hisstepdad is he doesn't need
anymore, I don't think, but heused to do some DJ stuff and so
he has a lot of DJ equipmentthere at the house.
Oh, cool and he's got a bunchof records and I've gotten my

(01:03:01):
son some records so I want toget him a turntable for.

Christmas.
He's big into music, right yeah?

Yeah, and he's my.
The music, the intro and outromusic for my podcast is music
that my son made.
He didn't make it for thepodcast, it was music that he
had made like the summer of 2020.
I guess he was bored and I tookit I mean it's royalty free,
you know took it and used it.

Yeah, that's great .

Yeah, and I use, I use Spotify for my music.
Just, I was using Apple music,but the thing I don't like about
it and I don't know if that'schanged is I like to change the
EQ settings and I remember likethere wasn't an adjustable EQ
that you could set on your own.
It was only preset EQ settingsand you couldn't do it in the
app.
You had to go into settings onyour phone and then go to like

(01:03:51):
Apple music and then go to thisthing and then this other thing.
And what got me into usingSpotify is my brother was using
it and he wanted to share aplaylist with me and I was like
whoa, you can do that, he goes,yeah.
So I signed up for Spotify, heshared his playlist with me and
I've been using it ever since.

Yeah, Spotify to me has always been not quite
sure how to put it, but italways feels more like it's
built for just a bunch of peoplethat like to share music with
other people, and it's and againI had and I say all that, but
I've used Apple music for thelast several years just because
it's part of the bundle that Ihave.
But it just seems to me likeit's very playlist oriented and

(01:04:34):
especially community playlist,like when you do a search and
maybe all of that's changedsince I haven't been on it as of
late.
But the Apple one you can findthings but it's not as community
.
You know, like I'm not going tofind Raphael's playlists.

Like I could Well.
Yeah, there's the option thatyou have to turn on, you know
see what your friends arelistening to.
I'm not interested in thatRight.

And I've done that with a couple of people, but I
think Spotify, though, just justfeels more that that's been its
thing, which is what I like,because I never want to listen
to an album start to finish.
I got tired of that when I was12 and there was like two good
songs and the other eight weretrash and I'm like I'm out of
that scene.

I'm still 12, I guess.

And it's just, it gets boring and I think part of
it's because, you know, I didwork radio for a while when I
was 18 and liked being poor.
I did that, but so, anyhow,we've gone off to a bit of a
tangent there.

Yeah, yeah, it's not that we ever do that.
We're talking about music apps.

Yep, all right.
So, gentlemen, we are at aboutthe hour mark.
All right, rafael, any closingthings?
We didn't cover that that youwanted to talk about.

No, I think we've covered it all.
I mean, we talked about mysetup, how I record, editing and
a bunch of other fun stuff, andI just want to thank you both
for having me on.

It's great to have.
It's been a pleasure Reallyreally appreciate having you,
rafael.

Yeah, thank you, jeff, and if absolutely, it's
been a pleasure and glad wecould do it.
I know we talked about it for alittle while there, so glad we
got it kind of synced up and itcould do it and wish you nothing
but continued success with theSube and you podcast.
I think that's a fantasticthing you're doing there.
I think the response thatyou've seen from it is proof of
that, so wish you all the bestfor that.

(01:06:19):
Thank you, and do appreciateyour time coming on with us.

Yeah, and where can everybody find you on social
media?

So my podcast is Sube and you podcast and it's a
dot in between all the words,and then you can find me at Sube
and you podcastcom and I don'thave Twitter or what's the other
threads.

Yeah, threads blue sky.

Yeah, I'm on Facebook.

Masked at home.

I don't really do anything with Facebook, so it's
mostly Instagram.

Good for you, yeah, all right, cool, cool,
excellent.

Thanks again.

Yeah, and we'll have links to all of that in the
podcast notes.
So, as usual, a feedback atbasicafshowcom.
You can get us there if youneed to get us there.
You can get our website,basicafshowcom as well, and
we'll be happy to respond to anyemails.
We'd love to have emails.
We still have stickers andwhatnot.
If anybody wants something likethat, happy to do it.

(01:07:16):
Show artwork the amazingRandall Martin design.
So we're always happy to shoutRandall out, who has been
working on a book with my sister.
Nice so which she should haveher hot little hands on in the
next couple of weeks.
And then music byPsychokinetics, and we're
grateful to Psychokinetics andCelcius7 for giving us the beats

(01:07:41):
to intro and outro too.
Tommy, anything else, tommy,look at me, kick my ass after
that.

Hey, tommy, what are we going to do About my
bedtime?
So we're going to have to goguys.

Yeah, okay, it's nine o'clock.
Tommy.

The name is Neo.

Yes, you got it in .
Excellent, I was waiting forthat.
All right, no, I think that isthat's everything.
So, rafael, again, thank you somuch.
Yeah, man, thanks, I reallyappreciate it All right, and for
all of you listening there,thank you for joining us.
As always, have a great rest ofyour day, or rest of your night
.
See ya, adios, see you nexttime.

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