July 30, 2025 • 31 mins
In this powerful episode, I sit down with parenting coach and boys' emotional ally, Tosha Schore, to unpack something most of us were never taught: our emotions — especially the messy, loud, uncomfortable ones — hold the key to healing.
We talk about what it really looks like to bear witness to our child’s (and our own) pain, why your “just calm down” instincts might be backfiring, and how to show up for your neurodivergent child in a way that builds emotional intelligence, resilience, and lasting connection.
And parents, we go there: the shame, the silence, the struggle to “fix” things that feel out of control. You’ll walk away with simple, profound shifts that don’t require perfection — just presence.
✨ If you’ve ever wondered, How do I help my kid without losing myself? this episode is for you.
Listen now and discover the healing power that’s already within reach.
You can find additional resources at parentingadhdandautism.com and Regulated Kids.com — because it’s not just about the struggles, it’s about progress, one step at a time.
Show notes and more resources at parentingadhdandautism.com/322
Become a supporter of this podcast: https://www.spreaker.com/podcast/beautifully-complex--6137613/support.
We talk about what it really looks like to bear witness to our child’s (and our own) pain, why your “just calm down” instincts might be backfiring, and how to show up for your neurodivergent child in a way that builds emotional intelligence, resilience, and lasting connection.
And parents, we go there: the shame, the silence, the struggle to “fix” things that feel out of control. You’ll walk away with simple, profound shifts that don’t require perfection — just presence.
✨ If you’ve ever wondered, How do I help my kid without losing myself? this episode is for you.
Listen now and discover the healing power that’s already within reach.
You can find additional resources at parentingadhdandautism.com and Regulated Kids.com — because it’s not just about the struggles, it’s about progress, one step at a time.
Show notes and more resources at parentingadhdandautism.com/322
Become a supporter of this podcast: https://www.spreaker.com/podcast/beautifully-complex--6137613/support.
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Speaker 1 (00:01):
Really, what our kids need is for us to simply
be present with them and accept them in that moment
exactly as they are for who they are. There's plenty
of time for guiding and helping and all of that,
but there's actually going to be less need for that
the more we can zip it and really be present.
Speaker 2 (00:21):
Welcome to Beautifully Complex, where we unpack what it really
means to parent neurodivergent kids with dignity and clarity. I'm
Penny Williams, and I know firsthand how tough and transformative
this journey can be. Let's dive in and discover how
to raise regulated, resilient, beautifully complex kids together. Oh and
(00:42):
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hub dot beautifully complex dot life. Welcome back, everybody to
Beautifully Complex. I am really excited to have my friend
Tasha Shore here with me again to you today talk
about emotions and the healing power of emotions. Tasha, will
(01:05):
you start by letting everybody know who you are and
what you do, and then we'll jump into it.
Speaker 1 (01:10):
Yeah, thanks for having me Penny. Well, I'm Tasha Shore.
I appreciate the opportunity to share my thinking with your audience.
Yet again, thank you. I run a business called Parenting
Boys Peacefully, and I have a mission of creating a
more peaceful world, one sweet boy at a time. And
essentially I do that by working with parents, mostly of
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young boys who are struggling with big emotions. Right, Like,
what we're going to talk about so hard behavior is
aggression or talking back or big tantrums, those types of things.
Because I feel like if we can create some peace
in our home, that's going to emanate out into our
communities and into the wider world, and ultimately that's what's
going to change things for the better.
Speaker 2 (01:54):
Absolutely. Yeah. And I thought a lot over the years
about how we really tell boys, boys especially to keep
their emotions in don't share your emotions, don't feel your emotions,
just stuff them down, right, which is so unhealthy. And
now we're talking more about emotions in general in our culture,
(02:16):
I think, and it's such a good thing. I think
we need to keep pushing right this message that feelings
are natural, feelings are acceptable. There are in any good
or bad feelings. It's what we do with them, right
that dictates. But I think our emotions, they're kind of
the foundation of life, Like if we're going to be happy,
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we need to be dealing with emotion, processing, emotion, coping
to emotion, right, all of these things in a healthy way.
Do you want to start by talking about really what
is the connection between emotions and healing? As you're talking
about the healing power of emotions, we often think of
emotions as difficult, right, So how do we connect the
(03:00):
healing narrative?
Speaker 1 (03:02):
Yeah? I mean, I think emotions are difficult. They're difficult
for us to hear. If we're not the one having them,
they're difficult, or like I it's our child who's having them.
It's often difficult for us as parents to listen because
perhaps we're being witnessed. Maybe we feel embarrassment or shame
or guilt. What do we do wrong? But I don't
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think for the person they're necessarily too challenging. And I
think that if we partner together, which I think needs
to be the goal for two people to partner together,
whether that's two adults or adults and child, right, that
we can harness the power of those emotions to heal.
(03:46):
I think probably the biggest problem that I see is
that we misidentify the big upsets, Right, So the big
tantrum or the rage or whatever it is as the problem.
And I'm not saying like it's okay to hate her
kick or whatever. That's that's not what I'm saying. But
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that is not the problem. Like, the problem already happened, right,
the hurt, the upset set in. We don't necessarily know
what that was. Maybe it's been you know, years of
being teased in school, Maybe it was a hard berth,
Maybe it was you know, trying to process the split
up in my parents. You know, who knows what it was.
(04:28):
But the problem has already happened, and the feelings that
are coming out aren't just not the problem, they are
actually the solution to the problems. So what we do
is we tend to because we feel embarrassed or because
we feel like they are the problem, we try to
put a lid on them. Yeah right, We tell our
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kids or ourselves, you know, to man up, to just
deal with it, to calm down. I oftentimes when I'm
listening to parents and there's feelings that start to bubble up,
they'll start to cry. For example, they'll do this like
they're trying to breathe and stop the tears from coming.
(05:09):
And then I see my job as how do I
encourage them by creating a safe enough space that they
can just allow the feelings to flow, because it's actually
that somatic release that leads them to the release of
the tension and the letting go of that hurt and
upset that set in, so that they can once again think,
(05:31):
be present and like assess accurately situations that they face
day in and day out, rather than running on emotion.
So it's like, the emotions aren't the problem. The problem
already happened. So if we're not trying to make the
emotion stop, then we open up this world of possibility
of healing.
Speaker 2 (05:51):
M recently, I heard somebody say that crying is healing
and it really sort of took me back. Had to
think about that. But you know, that is the processing
of the emotion. That's feeling the feeling. Your body is
responding to that feeling. But if you weren't feeling it,
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then you wouldn't cry, right, you wouldn't have these outward expressions.
And we have to feel the feeling to move through
it and get to the other side of it. And
that really stuck with me.
Speaker 1 (06:23):
Yeah, like feelings aren't bad. I mean, we can act
on them in ways that are not good, but the
feelings themselves aren't bad. And I mean, I'm just thinking
of the story of myself where I had maybe gosh,
it's been several years now, it was twenty eighteen, so
quite a while. But I fell into my one and
only depression of my lifetime so far, hopefully the only
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one ever. And I practice a practice of listening partnership
that we write about in the book, where parents take
turens listening to one another and witnessing one another and
holding space for the other person to process their feelings,
to try to share, to talk, to laugh, whatever comes up.
(07:07):
And at the same time, I was seeing a therapist
and talking things out with her a little bit and
it was really interesting, and she said, you know, you
would be a candidate for antidepressants if you want to
do that, and I'm like, nah, I don't really want
to do that. I'm going to keep up with my
listening partnership and I think I can get through this.
And I was really strategic about it, like it took
(07:30):
me ten months. And I because I've been using the
practice for so long, I have built up a network
of people who I support and who support me, and
I set up daily exchanges for myself over those ten months,
and I also figured out that morning didn't work so
well because sometimes afterwards I just felt so spent or
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maybe even a little bit down and heavy, and I
couldn't get my work done. So I figured that, okay,
I needed to do my work in the morning and
then come to that healing for myself midday early afternoon.
So I got really strategic about it. And it felt
like I was getting nowhere. Like I was just cry.
I would sob, like just sob and sob and sob,
(08:12):
day after day after day, and you know, presumably it
was about you know, missing my I had just moved
across the world, you know, missing my friends, missing my family.
But it was sort of it felt like it was
getting nowhere. And one day the person who was listening
to me, who was my mentor, kind of cracked at
some sort of a nut. I don't know, I don't
(08:34):
even remember exactly what she said at this point, but
it was something like, if you had to take a
wild guess at what this was really about, what do
you think it would be? And honestly, I'd have to
go back and listening to a listen to a podcast
that I did with somebody else way back then, where
I actually shared the story to remember what it was
really about. I remember anymore. That's how gone it is.
(08:58):
But once I touched on that again, just this huge
sob and then I woke up the next morning like
a different person, Like the depression was gone, it had lifted,
it was no longer. And I went to my therapist
that week and I was like, I'm fine. She's like, well,
what do you mean. I'm like, well, I've just been
(09:19):
doing this practice of listening partnerships and I every day
and I've been sobbing and I've been witnessed and I
don't know, yesterday my mentor said this thing to me,
and I had this huge release, and I just woke
up this morning and I feel like Tasha again, like
the Tasha who I used to know and love, who
I haven't seen for ten months. I feel fine, and
I've been fine ever since. She's kind of like okay,
(09:43):
And then I gave her a copy of my book.
I'm like here, like read this, like this is what
I did, and I love her dearly. She was a
little bit taken aback, but the process of being able
to not try to not be sad, to not try
to stop missing, and just focusing on my life. Is
here good? Here is good? I need to make more friends,
(10:05):
Let's find a community. I think we try to get
pragmatic about FAG. Yeah, And rather than doing that, I
just created as much space as I needed to be
able to let all of the feeling out. And when
I say out, I mean like in a somatic way,
like shaking and sweating and sobbing and crying and raging
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and all the things that I needed to do. And
when it was gone, it was just gone.
Speaker 2 (10:32):
Yeah. What stands out to me about that is that
your pain was being witnessed. You were being seen for
exactly where you were and what was happening. And also
not avoiding the feeling. You know, sometimes we tell people
who are feeling down to practice gratitude. Well, that's kind
(10:54):
of sidestepping And I hadn't really thought about it that
way until you just shared that story. And if we're saying, okay,
well you know the sunshining today and I have a
roof over my head, we're avoiding the feeling completely, We're
not We're not addressing the feeling. We're trying to control
it instat and we're trying to put it away.
Speaker 1 (11:14):
Right absolutely, And I think, you know a lot of
people in the parenting space kind of skip over that piece.
And that's what I'm really adamant about. In my community.
It's like we have to do this work. Like right
before this podcast recording, I had a call in my community.
It's a weekly call where we actually do this practice
of listening partnerships, and we work on our feelings and
(11:34):
we hone our practice both being a listener and being
listened to, and you know, so much comes out. We're
carrying so much, whether it's you know, we're embarrassed because
our boys aren't being respectful of their friends' parents when
they're at their house, and they won't give up their
electronics when they're being asked, or they're online and they're
(11:56):
you know, sexting some AI bought or they you know,
hit their friend out a playdate, or they called their
mom a name that was triggering to the other mom
at the playdate, and now the mom won't let the
kid play anymore, and the kid doesn't have any other friends,
and like everybody's hearts are breaking. I mean, these are
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a huge huge things that we are dealing with as parents.
And if I'm going to just say, like, okay, well
your kid is not being respectful to other parents on playdates,
well try strategy A, and then if that doesn't work,
to try strategy B. And then if that doesn't work,
try strategy try the tongue twister, try strategy See it's
(12:40):
not gonna work if I am a loaded cannon, right,
if I as a parent, I'm feeling ashamed, embarrassed, helpless, hopeless, overwhelmed, exhausted,
Like I have to process those feelings or I'm gonna
have zero success implementing any of these strategies. So I think,
like one thing I want to say to parents out
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there are listening, it's like, you matter. You can't skip
over your own healing. I mean, you don't have to
reach Nirvana and like, you know, process everything before you
can help your kids. That's not what I'm saying, But
there has to be a parallel path. And the thing
is also it's like when you start doing that and
you start to feel different yourself, you really gain what's
(13:23):
the word like appreciation for the power of the release
of the feelings, and you have then much more attention
and patience to listen to your child when they are upset,
and the tendency to skate over it or to quiet
it or you know, to distract your child will wane.
(13:43):
And that's ultimately what we want to have happened, so
that they can do their healing too, because otherwise their
behaviors aren't going to change exactly.
Speaker 2 (13:51):
Yeah. Yeah, Parenting work isn't just helping our kids do
things or learn things. Parenting work is us working on
ourselves too, in a parallel path. It has to be,
because we can't show up and offer coregulation and offer
stability if we are, you know, swimming in all these
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emotions we haven't dealt with and we're stressed out and
we're at our wits end and we're justsregulated. We can't
be helpful from that place, from that state and that energy.
We have to make shifts, and those shifts often take
a lot of self work.
Speaker 1 (14:30):
They do, and I think, I just I don't want
people to feel overwhelmed. I think there's simple things we
can do. Also, it's like you don't have to, oh
my god, I have to set up a listening partnership
and like set aside this time, and yes that's fabulous,
and yes I do want you to do that.
Speaker 2 (14:45):
But one step at a time, one.
Speaker 1 (14:47):
Step at a time. Right, But like, is there a
song that you can listen to that lets you cry,
put it on and just allow yourself to release that tension,
or a show you can watch, or a book you
can or somebody that you can talk to that will
listen to you without interrupting or trying to fix you
or give you advice or journaling or whatever. Like, get creative.
(15:11):
Get creative. You know, can you go into your room
and scream into a pillow, you know, turn the shower
on and yell in the shower whatever. Like, think of
it as energy. Like if you feel tight, there's energy
in there that needs to come out. There's not one
way to let it out. Just get really creative with
whatever your situation is and just start experimenting. You want
(15:34):
a journal, journal that like, as you're writing, if the
tears come or if there's laughter there, like, let it
come out, Let it come out. It's not weird, it's normal.
Speaker 2 (15:43):
Yeah, And it's the healing part. I just had a
huge epiphany as you were talking. I am a person
who craves bearing witness, like I have to watch all
(16:05):
the documentaries about all the hard things that people have
been through, and my kids think I'm insane, like they
don't understand why I feel a need to do that.
And I just realized that, like that is getting emotions out,
like those hard things make me feel something, they often
(16:26):
make me cry, and that bearing witness for other people's
struggles can be healing for us, Like this whole thing
just popped into my head as you were talking and
some aha bulbs.
Speaker 1 (16:42):
Yeah, I mean the very witness to others, I think
is a part that we don't think about. Like when
I teach parents listening partnerships, I think most parents go
in thinking, all right, like I'm kind of tightly wound,
or I'm struggling to stop yelling at my kid, like
I need to deal with my stuff. So I'm learning
this practice for my own healing, and I think oftentimes
they're quite surprised that they learn a ton. They feel
(17:07):
a lot better as they witness others. So in a group,
it often is like a breaking of the isolation. So
you hear everybody's stories, you don't judge, nobody's judging. You
experience what it's like to be in a completely non
judgmental environment, and you also realize, Okay, my kid's not
(17:28):
the older one doing X, Y or Z, and I'm
not the only one losing it, and it just makes
them feel normal. And when we feel normal, it's easier
for us to kind of switch our behaviors. But then,
one on one, as you are in a listening partnership,
even and especially when we're feeling like we're in a
hard place and we're coming to it for our own healing,
(17:51):
being able to listen somebody to somebody else and offer
something that's helpful to somebody else is an amazing confidence
booster to the person who is listening. So it just
comes as a surprise you go and thinking, okay, like
I'm in this for me in the sense that I
need to help, and then the fact that you have
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the ability and you get to support others ends up
giving you strength in a way that you didn't even imagine.
Speaker 2 (18:19):
It's regulating to do kind things for other people, like
to show up for someone else helps to regulate our
nervous system.
Speaker 1 (18:26):
And we often feel like we're failing as parents right
and where our kids are struggling and I'm working with
parents whose kids are struggling, right, Yeah, we're so hard
on ourselves, so to know that we have a role
that's quite helpful to somebody else. We're succeeding out something.
Speaker 2 (18:45):
Yeah. Yeah, when you feel like a failure, it sort
of overtakes you. You think about it in all aspects.
And so any way that you can show up and
feel like you're doing something good, it's going to be
transformative short term. Yeah. Yeah, So how do we encourage
our kids to be more open with their emotions, to
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communicate them, to let them out.
Speaker 1 (19:11):
We stop talking. I mean that is like the main answer.
That is the main answer. Pretty much every one of
us talks too much, Yeah, every one of us. And
so if you the next time your child is struggling
with something, whether or not you feel upset, if you
might feel empathy, you might feel upset, you might feel
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like you want to help, like you could feel all
kinds of things. I want to challenge you to not
actually say anything, but really listen, listen, to just understand,
to take in what's going on for them, not in
that mode of trying to figure out Okay, I'm listening,
but I'm trying to figure out, like what I can say,
or how I can help, or how I can make
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them feel better, or how I can solve the problem
or what I need to do as a responsible parent
in X, Y or Z situation, None of that. Just
be present. Amazing things will happen when our kids understand
that we can hold that space for them, they will
share more, even the kids who have shut down. But
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the second they feel that we're judging them or we're
trying to solve a problem for them, even they'll shut
down again. So it's not complicated, but it can be
challenging for many of us because we live in a
world where talking is like the way, right, like we
are expected to help people by offering solutions. We're in
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a self help world. Read this book, listen to this podcast,
right like do this, do that, do this, do that?
But being, we forgot what being is, and really what
our kids need is for us to simply be present
with them and accept them in that moment exactly as
they are for who they are. There's plenty of time
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for guiding and helping and all of that, but there's
actually going to be need less need for that the
more we can zip it and really be present and
listen because like with us, the more they're able to share,
whether they're talking to us or they're crying or whatever
they're doing, they are going to build their own intelligence.
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They are going to get smarter. They are going to
have aha moments right like you've been having, and they
will likely come up with solutions themselves, more be able
to get to a place where they can ask us
a specific question rather than just having the big upset.
So that is the number one thing. If that's all
anybody does, that would be a huge gift to our children.
Speaker 2 (21:42):
Yes, and to ourselves, I have to say, because we
will see changes come from that.
Speaker 1 (21:48):
Right. And also it's a break, right. I think so
many of us are like, what am I supposed to do?
What am I supposed to do? Right? Parents come to me,
they come to you like, I don't know what to
do with this kid. I don't have to do in
this situation to help help help. But of less is more. Yeah,
if you stop and just listen, what needs to be
done will likely become clear.
Speaker 2 (22:07):
Yeah.
Speaker 1 (22:08):
Yeah, there's no, it's not an emergency. It doesn't have
to happen right this second.
Speaker 2 (22:12):
Yeah, And sometimes listening is listening to the silence. I
think that's where we make the mistake of talking too
much so often, is if nobody's saying anything, then we
feel like we have to fill that void, and we don't.
If we actually just give them space to process, to
figure out what they might want to say or do
or whatever, just give them that space, hold that space.
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It can be so transformative and in their own time too.
You know, one thing that my own kid taught me
as a teenager was I don't want to talk about
it in your time, and my time was always right now,
let's deal with it and get past it. But I
am okay to talk about it at some point and
I'll let you know when that is, which was really
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hard for me. It was very hard for me to
not try to solve the problem right, not try to
make him feel better to get through it. It wasn't
that I was trying to put away the feelings, but
I wanted to help him with them right. And I thought,
if we don't talk about it now, we're never going
to talk about it. And that absolutely was not true,
Like every single time over the last i don't know,
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six years, seven years since since I embraced what he
was telling me. He needed. He comes at some point
and talks to me at some point in his own time.
So it's not that he doesn't want my help, which
I think is a way that we interpret that or
misinterpret that. It's just that he needed it differently, and
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I needed to be open to that. I needed to
leave the space of time sometimes for that.
Speaker 1 (23:43):
Yeah, I love that. I think that our kids always
need us in some way, you know, regardless of their
age mm hm. But we often want to do things
our way, right, we want them to share in the
way that we share or whatever. And I again, we
need to think of ourselves as responsive, to be present
(24:03):
when they're younger. That looks one way. If we're listening
to a little kid, you know, a five year old
have a tantrum about something, that looks very different than
listening to you know, a sixteen year old share about
you know, pornography or sex stuff or tech stuff or
school stuff. I mean, that looks very different. When we
get into the teenage years, there's a lot I talk
(24:25):
about just being present, and so I love what you're doing.
It's like, basically, I'm here if and when you want
to talk, I will make myself available as opposed to
we need to talk about this, like you can't like
hold this in that's like our desperation and our needs.
They won't respond to that, they will distance themselves.
Speaker 2 (24:47):
Yeah, exactly.
Speaker 1 (24:48):
So I love that you figured that out because I mean,
I'm sure that completely transformed your relationship totally.
Speaker 2 (24:53):
It took years for me to hear him on that,
Like it was so hard for me, and then I
finally just had to have faith that if I followed
his lean, things would work out. And then lo and behold.
You know, he shares with me way more than he
would have had I forced him right, way more.
Speaker 1 (25:13):
And you can't force him.
Speaker 2 (25:15):
No, no, they're gonna shut down.
Speaker 1 (25:17):
Yeah, I mean I have one of my three is
a teenager who he's more reserved and even like his
brothers or dad will be like, you know, he doesn't
talk to me, or he doesn't you know, I don't
know what's going on with him, And I'm like, well,
I totally know what's going on with him, and he
completely talks to me, like y'all need to just shut
(25:40):
up for a minute. Yeah, I just let him like yeah,
like he's not a kid who's going to or a
young man who's going to fight for airtime. But he
knows that if he needs me, I'm here. I'm not like,
you know, texting him and calling him and being like,
you know, hey, what's up? What's going on? I was this?
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Did you solve this problem? I just say like, hey,
if you want me, I'm here. Or I say hey,
do you want me to reach out to you regularly?
If so, like what's regularly for you? Like what would
you like for me? And then he just shows up
of his own own free will. I feel like I
very close. I know everything that I would want to
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know about what's going on with him.
Speaker 2 (26:25):
It's amazing.
Speaker 1 (26:26):
But that only happens because I get really quiet, and
sometimes that looks like him calling me and me coming
for in the same house in that moment, and me
like going into his room and sitting there, and I
might sit there for ten or fifteen minutes and he
might not say anything. Yeah, And that can feel, like
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you said, listening to the silence can feel uncomfortable. I'm
not uncomfortable with it anymore because I recognize that he
wants me there and my presence is plenty, and that
when he's ready, he'll share what he wants to share,
and inevitably that is what happens. And oftentimes at the
end it looks like silence again, and I say, you know,
(27:07):
are you wanting me to stay here? So I'm happy
to stay here, would you like me to stay here?
Or ill often say like or are you done with me?
You know? And I'm done with you? You can go yeah, okay,
and then I go and like, there you have it.
Speaker 2 (27:22):
Yeah. Yeah. My kid even comes to me when I
don't know anything's wrong now, and he says, can we talk?
And he wants, you know, you to turn off whatever
you're doing and like look at him, even though like
eye contact is not his thing, but he wants to know,
like do I have your full attention because what I'm
about to tell you is important? Or you know, what
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I need you for is really important. I love that
And that's everything. It's yeah, like instead of stewing and exploding, right,
he's seeking at least a regulated presence or somebody who
just will listen and say, I see you, I get it.
Speaker 1 (28:00):
Right, And he's he's like a man now asking for help.
And that's coming back to my mission, right, that's how
we create a more peaceful world. One sweet boy at
a ton. It is so important that we teach our
boys to ask for help. Yes, and that doesn't mean
going like, hey, I need you to ask for help,
like when you need it. It looks like these examples
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that we've been talking about. It looks all kinds of
different ways, depending on your child and depending on their
age and all of the things. But how beautiful that
now you have this emotionally intelligent man who understands that
when he's struggling, it's a great idea to reach out
and he knows that there's somebody there that he can
reach out to. Like that would be my wish for
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every young boy as he grows into a man.
Speaker 2 (28:46):
Totally. Yeah, seeking connection, right, it's seeking connection in those times,
not necessarily seeking help or advice or guidance, but just
connection has a lot of power.
Speaker 1 (28:59):
Yeah, And not feeling shame in needing or wanting that
connection or help if they need it, and not feeling
like they need to figure it out on their own,
because that's when we get into trouble.
Speaker 2 (29:10):
Mm hmm. We could talk about this for a very
long time, but we're already out of time. This is
our bite size lesson in the healing power of emotions.
But I want you, Tasha, to tell everybody where can
they connect with you online? Where they can get your
book all of these things.
Speaker 1 (29:30):
Yeah, So I well, I don't know when this is
gonna go live, but I have a website parentingboyspeacefully dot
com and so if you want to go there, I
have a ten day reconnect that's just a great way
for you to either start connecting or deepen your connection
with your sweet boy. So that would be a great
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place to get started. Yeah, and the book you can
just find wherever books are sold.
Speaker 2 (29:59):
Pretty standard, right, Yeah, I'll link it up for everybody
in the show notes at PARENTINGADHD and auntism dot com
slash three two to two for episode three hundred and
twenty two. Oh, Tash, I always feel a little bit
later talking to you, and a lot more hopeful for
our boys and just for all of humanity, honestly, And
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I appreciate that, and I appreciate the work that you're
doing for our boys so that they can feel and
not be shamed, and you know, that's where they're going
to have a fulfilling life. And so I just appreciate
you so much.
Speaker 1 (30:35):
Thank you that means a lot to me. I do.
I think of myself as kind of an injector of hope.
So when I know that it's working, that makes me
feel really good, because I do feel like the situation
is hopeful and it's a hard time right now, but
there's so much we can do as parents of young boys,
or as parents of anybody to help life go better
for them, for our family, and for the bigger world
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out there.
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Really, what our kids need is for us to simply
be present with them and accept them in that moment
exactly as they are for who they are. There's plenty
of time for guiding and helping and all of that,
but there's actually going to be less need for that
the more we can zip it and really be present.
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hub dot beautifully complex dot life. Welcome back, everybody to
Beautifully Complex. I am really excited to have my friend
Tasha Shore here with me again to you today talk
about emotions and the healing power of emotions. Tasha, will
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you start by letting everybody know who you are and
what you do, and then we'll jump into it.
Speaker 1 (01:10):
Yeah, thanks for having me Penny. Well, I'm Tasha Shore.
I appreciate the opportunity to share my thinking with your audience.
Yet again, thank you. I run a business called Parenting
Boys Peacefully, and I have a mission of creating a
more peaceful world, one sweet boy at a time. And
essentially I do that by working with parents, mostly of
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young boys who are struggling with big emotions. Right, Like,
what we're going to talk about so hard behavior is
aggression or talking back or big tantrums, those types of things.
Because I feel like if we can create some peace
in our home, that's going to emanate out into our
communities and into the wider world, and ultimately that's what's
going to change things for the better.
Speaker 2 (01:54):
Absolutely. Yeah. And I thought a lot over the years
about how we really tell boys, boys especially to keep
their emotions in don't share your emotions, don't feel your emotions,
just stuff them down, right, which is so unhealthy. And
now we're talking more about emotions in general in our culture,
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I think, and it's such a good thing. I think
we need to keep pushing right this message that feelings
are natural, feelings are acceptable. There are in any good
or bad feelings. It's what we do with them, right
that dictates. But I think our emotions, they're kind of
the foundation of life, Like if we're going to be happy,
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we need to be dealing with emotion, processing, emotion, coping
to emotion, right, all of these things in a healthy way.
Do you want to start by talking about really what
is the connection between emotions and healing? As you're talking
about the healing power of emotions, we often think of
emotions as difficult, right, So how do we connect the
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healing narrative?
Speaker 1 (03:02):
Yeah? I mean, I think emotions are difficult. They're difficult
for us to hear. If we're not the one having them,
they're difficult, or like I it's our child who's having them.
It's often difficult for us as parents to listen because
perhaps we're being witnessed. Maybe we feel embarrassment or shame
or guilt. What do we do wrong? But I don't
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think for the person they're necessarily too challenging. And I
think that if we partner together, which I think needs
to be the goal for two people to partner together,
whether that's two adults or adults and child, right, that
we can harness the power of those emotions to heal.
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I think probably the biggest problem that I see is
that we misidentify the big upsets, Right, So the big
tantrum or the rage or whatever it is as the problem.
And I'm not saying like it's okay to hate her
kick or whatever. That's that's not what I'm saying. But
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that is not the problem. Like, the problem already happened, right,
the hurt, the upset set in. We don't necessarily know
what that was. Maybe it's been you know, years of
being teased in school, Maybe it was a hard berth,
Maybe it was you know, trying to process the split
up in my parents. You know, who knows what it was.
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But the problem has already happened, and the feelings that
are coming out aren't just not the problem, they are
actually the solution to the problems. So what we do
is we tend to because we feel embarrassed or because
we feel like they are the problem, we try to
put a lid on them. Yeah right, We tell our
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kids or ourselves, you know, to man up, to just
deal with it, to calm down. I oftentimes when I'm
listening to parents and there's feelings that start to bubble up,
they'll start to cry. For example, they'll do this like
they're trying to breathe and stop the tears from coming.
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And then I see my job as how do I
encourage them by creating a safe enough space that they
can just allow the feelings to flow, because it's actually
that somatic release that leads them to the release of
the tension and the letting go of that hurt and
upset that set in, so that they can once again think,
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be present and like assess accurately situations that they face
day in and day out, rather than running on emotion.
So it's like, the emotions aren't the problem. The problem
already happened. So if we're not trying to make the
emotion stop, then we open up this world of possibility
of healing.
Speaker 2 (05:51):
M recently, I heard somebody say that crying is healing
and it really sort of took me back. Had to
think about that. But you know, that is the processing
of the emotion. That's feeling the feeling. Your body is
responding to that feeling. But if you weren't feeling it,
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then you wouldn't cry, right, you wouldn't have these outward expressions.
And we have to feel the feeling to move through
it and get to the other side of it. And
that really stuck with me.
Speaker 1 (06:23):
Yeah, like feelings aren't bad. I mean, we can act
on them in ways that are not good, but the
feelings themselves aren't bad. And I mean, I'm just thinking
of the story of myself where I had maybe gosh,
it's been several years now, it was twenty eighteen, so
quite a while. But I fell into my one and
only depression of my lifetime so far, hopefully the only
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one ever. And I practice a practice of listening partnership
that we write about in the book, where parents take
turens listening to one another and witnessing one another and
holding space for the other person to process their feelings,
to try to share, to talk, to laugh, whatever comes up.
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And at the same time, I was seeing a therapist
and talking things out with her a little bit and
it was really interesting, and she said, you know, you
would be a candidate for antidepressants if you want to
do that, and I'm like, nah, I don't really want
to do that. I'm going to keep up with my
listening partnership and I think I can get through this.
And I was really strategic about it, like it took
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me ten months. And I because I've been using the
practice for so long, I have built up a network
of people who I support and who support me, and
I set up daily exchanges for myself over those ten months,
and I also figured out that morning didn't work so
well because sometimes afterwards I just felt so spent or
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maybe even a little bit down and heavy, and I
couldn't get my work done. So I figured that, okay,
I needed to do my work in the morning and
then come to that healing for myself midday early afternoon.
So I got really strategic about it. And it felt
like I was getting nowhere. Like I was just cry.
I would sob, like just sob and sob and sob,
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day after day after day, and you know, presumably it
was about you know, missing my I had just moved
across the world, you know, missing my friends, missing my family.
But it was sort of it felt like it was
getting nowhere. And one day the person who was listening
to me, who was my mentor, kind of cracked at
some sort of a nut. I don't know, I don't
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even remember exactly what she said at this point, but
it was something like, if you had to take a
wild guess at what this was really about, what do
you think it would be? And honestly, I'd have to
go back and listening to a listen to a podcast
that I did with somebody else way back then, where
I actually shared the story to remember what it was
really about. I remember anymore. That's how gone it is.
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But once I touched on that again, just this huge
sob and then I woke up the next morning like
a different person, Like the depression was gone, it had lifted,
it was no longer. And I went to my therapist
that week and I was like, I'm fine. She's like, well,
what do you mean. I'm like, well, I've just been
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doing this practice of listening partnerships and I every day
and I've been sobbing and I've been witnessed and I
don't know, yesterday my mentor said this thing to me,
and I had this huge release, and I just woke
up this morning and I feel like Tasha again, like
the Tasha who I used to know and love, who
I haven't seen for ten months. I feel fine, and
I've been fine ever since. She's kind of like okay,
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And then I gave her a copy of my book.
I'm like here, like read this, like this is what
I did, and I love her dearly. She was a
little bit taken aback, but the process of being able
to not try to not be sad, to not try
to stop missing, and just focusing on my life. Is
here good? Here is good? I need to make more friends,
(10:05):
Let's find a community. I think we try to get
pragmatic about FAG. Yeah, And rather than doing that, I
just created as much space as I needed to be
able to let all of the feeling out. And when
I say out, I mean like in a somatic way,
like shaking and sweating and sobbing and crying and raging
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and all the things that I needed to do. And
when it was gone, it was just gone.
Speaker 2 (10:32):
Yeah. What stands out to me about that is that
your pain was being witnessed. You were being seen for
exactly where you were and what was happening. And also
not avoiding the feeling. You know, sometimes we tell people
who are feeling down to practice gratitude. Well, that's kind
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of sidestepping And I hadn't really thought about it that
way until you just shared that story. And if we're saying, okay,
well you know the sunshining today and I have a
roof over my head, we're avoiding the feeling completely, We're
not We're not addressing the feeling. We're trying to control
it instat and we're trying to put it away.
Speaker 1 (11:14):
Right absolutely, And I think, you know a lot of
people in the parenting space kind of skip over that piece.
And that's what I'm really adamant about. In my community.
It's like we have to do this work. Like right
before this podcast recording, I had a call in my community.
It's a weekly call where we actually do this practice
of listening partnerships, and we work on our feelings and
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we hone our practice both being a listener and being
listened to, and you know, so much comes out. We're
carrying so much, whether it's you know, we're embarrassed because
our boys aren't being respectful of their friends' parents when
they're at their house, and they won't give up their
electronics when they're being asked, or they're online and they're
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you know, sexting some AI bought or they you know,
hit their friend out a playdate, or they called their
mom a name that was triggering to the other mom
at the playdate, and now the mom won't let the
kid play anymore, and the kid doesn't have any other friends,
and like everybody's hearts are breaking. I mean, these are
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a huge huge things that we are dealing with as parents.
And if I'm going to just say, like, okay, well
your kid is not being respectful to other parents on playdates,
well try strategy A, and then if that doesn't work,
to try strategy B. And then if that doesn't work,
try strategy try the tongue twister, try strategy See it's
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not gonna work if I am a loaded cannon, right,
if I as a parent, I'm feeling ashamed, embarrassed, helpless, hopeless, overwhelmed, exhausted,
Like I have to process those feelings or I'm gonna
have zero success implementing any of these strategies. So I think,
like one thing I want to say to parents out
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there are listening, it's like, you matter. You can't skip
over your own healing. I mean, you don't have to
reach Nirvana and like, you know, process everything before you
can help your kids. That's not what I'm saying, But
there has to be a parallel path. And the thing
is also it's like when you start doing that and
you start to feel different yourself, you really gain what's
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the word like appreciation for the power of the release
of the feelings, and you have then much more attention
and patience to listen to your child when they are upset,
and the tendency to skate over it or to quiet
it or you know, to distract your child will wane.
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And that's ultimately what we want to have happened, so
that they can do their healing too, because otherwise their
behaviors aren't going to change exactly.
Speaker 2 (13:51):
Yeah. Yeah, Parenting work isn't just helping our kids do
things or learn things. Parenting work is us working on
ourselves too, in a parallel path. It has to be,
because we can't show up and offer coregulation and offer
stability if we are, you know, swimming in all these
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emotions we haven't dealt with and we're stressed out and
we're at our wits end and we're justsregulated. We can't
be helpful from that place, from that state and that energy.
We have to make shifts, and those shifts often take
a lot of self work.
Speaker 1 (14:30):
They do, and I think, I just I don't want
people to feel overwhelmed. I think there's simple things we
can do. Also, it's like you don't have to, oh
my god, I have to set up a listening partnership
and like set aside this time, and yes that's fabulous,
and yes I do want you to do that.
Speaker 2 (14:45):
But one step at a time, one.
Speaker 1 (14:47):
Step at a time. Right, But like, is there a
song that you can listen to that lets you cry,
put it on and just allow yourself to release that tension,
or a show you can watch, or a book you
can or somebody that you can talk to that will
listen to you without interrupting or trying to fix you
or give you advice or journaling or whatever. Like, get creative.
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Get creative. You know, can you go into your room
and scream into a pillow, you know, turn the shower
on and yell in the shower whatever. Like, think of
it as energy. Like if you feel tight, there's energy
in there that needs to come out. There's not one
way to let it out. Just get really creative with
whatever your situation is and just start experimenting. You want
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a journal, journal that like, as you're writing, if the
tears come or if there's laughter there, like, let it
come out, Let it come out. It's not weird, it's normal.
Speaker 2 (15:43):
Yeah, And it's the healing part. I just had a
huge epiphany as you were talking. I am a person
who craves bearing witness, like I have to watch all
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the documentaries about all the hard things that people have
been through, and my kids think I'm insane, like they
don't understand why I feel a need to do that.
And I just realized that, like that is getting emotions out,
like those hard things make me feel something, they often
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make me cry, and that bearing witness for other people's
struggles can be healing for us, Like this whole thing
just popped into my head as you were talking and
some aha bulbs.
Speaker 1 (16:42):
Yeah, I mean the very witness to others, I think
is a part that we don't think about. Like when
I teach parents listening partnerships, I think most parents go
in thinking, all right, like I'm kind of tightly wound,
or I'm struggling to stop yelling at my kid, like
I need to deal with my stuff. So I'm learning
this practice for my own healing, and I think oftentimes
they're quite surprised that they learn a ton. They feel
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a lot better as they witness others. So in a group,
it often is like a breaking of the isolation. So
you hear everybody's stories, you don't judge, nobody's judging. You
experience what it's like to be in a completely non
judgmental environment, and you also realize, Okay, my kid's not
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the older one doing X, Y or Z, and I'm
not the only one losing it, and it just makes
them feel normal. And when we feel normal, it's easier
for us to kind of switch our behaviors. But then,
one on one, as you are in a listening partnership,
even and especially when we're feeling like we're in a
hard place and we're coming to it for our own healing,
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being able to listen somebody to somebody else and offer
something that's helpful to somebody else is an amazing confidence
booster to the person who is listening. So it just
comes as a surprise you go and thinking, okay, like
I'm in this for me in the sense that I
need to help, and then the fact that you have
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the ability and you get to support others ends up
giving you strength in a way that you didn't even imagine.
Speaker 2 (18:19):
It's regulating to do kind things for other people, like
to show up for someone else helps to regulate our
nervous system.
Speaker 1 (18:26):
And we often feel like we're failing as parents right
and where our kids are struggling and I'm working with
parents whose kids are struggling, right, Yeah, we're so hard
on ourselves, so to know that we have a role
that's quite helpful to somebody else. We're succeeding out something.
Speaker 2 (18:45):
Yeah. Yeah, when you feel like a failure, it sort
of overtakes you. You think about it in all aspects.
And so any way that you can show up and
feel like you're doing something good, it's going to be
transformative short term. Yeah. Yeah, So how do we encourage
our kids to be more open with their emotions, to
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communicate them, to let them out.
Speaker 1 (19:11):
We stop talking. I mean that is like the main answer.
That is the main answer. Pretty much every one of
us talks too much, Yeah, every one of us. And
so if you the next time your child is struggling
with something, whether or not you feel upset, if you
might feel empathy, you might feel upset, you might feel
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like you want to help, like you could feel all
kinds of things. I want to challenge you to not
actually say anything, but really listen, listen, to just understand,
to take in what's going on for them, not in
that mode of trying to figure out Okay, I'm listening,
but I'm trying to figure out, like what I can say,
or how I can help, or how I can make
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them feel better, or how I can solve the problem
or what I need to do as a responsible parent
in X, Y or Z situation, None of that. Just
be present. Amazing things will happen when our kids understand
that we can hold that space for them, they will
share more, even the kids who have shut down. But
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the second they feel that we're judging them or we're
trying to solve a problem for them, even they'll shut
down again. So it's not complicated, but it can be
challenging for many of us because we live in a
world where talking is like the way, right, like we
are expected to help people by offering solutions. We're in
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a self help world. Read this book, listen to this podcast,
right like do this, do that, do this, do that?
But being, we forgot what being is, and really what
our kids need is for us to simply be present
with them and accept them in that moment exactly as
they are for who they are. There's plenty of time
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for guiding and helping and all of that, but there's
actually going to be need less need for that the
more we can zip it and really be present and
listen because like with us, the more they're able to share,
whether they're talking to us or they're crying or whatever
they're doing, they are going to build their own intelligence.
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They are going to get smarter. They are going to
have aha moments right like you've been having, and they
will likely come up with solutions themselves, more be able
to get to a place where they can ask us
a specific question rather than just having the big upset.
So that is the number one thing. If that's all
anybody does, that would be a huge gift to our children.
Speaker 2 (21:42):
Yes, and to ourselves, I have to say, because we
will see changes come from that.
Speaker 1 (21:48):
Right. And also it's a break, right. I think so
many of us are like, what am I supposed to do?
What am I supposed to do? Right? Parents come to me,
they come to you like, I don't know what to
do with this kid. I don't have to do in
this situation to help help help. But of less is more. Yeah,
if you stop and just listen, what needs to be
done will likely become clear.
Speaker 2 (22:07):
Yeah.
Speaker 1 (22:08):
Yeah, there's no, it's not an emergency. It doesn't have
to happen right this second.
Speaker 2 (22:12):
Yeah, And sometimes listening is listening to the silence. I
think that's where we make the mistake of talking too
much so often, is if nobody's saying anything, then we
feel like we have to fill that void, and we don't.
If we actually just give them space to process, to
figure out what they might want to say or do
or whatever, just give them that space, hold that space.
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It can be so transformative and in their own time too.
You know, one thing that my own kid taught me
as a teenager was I don't want to talk about
it in your time, and my time was always right now,
let's deal with it and get past it. But I
am okay to talk about it at some point and
I'll let you know when that is, which was really
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hard for me. It was very hard for me to
not try to solve the problem right, not try to
make him feel better to get through it. It wasn't
that I was trying to put away the feelings, but
I wanted to help him with them right. And I thought,
if we don't talk about it now, we're never going
to talk about it. And that absolutely was not true,
Like every single time over the last i don't know,
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six years, seven years since since I embraced what he
was telling me. He needed. He comes at some point
and talks to me at some point in his own time.
So it's not that he doesn't want my help, which
I think is a way that we interpret that or
misinterpret that. It's just that he needed it differently, and
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I needed to be open to that. I needed to
leave the space of time sometimes for that.
Speaker 1 (23:43):
Yeah, I love that. I think that our kids always
need us in some way, you know, regardless of their
age mm hm. But we often want to do things
our way, right, we want them to share in the
way that we share or whatever. And I again, we
need to think of ourselves as responsive, to be present
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when they're younger. That looks one way. If we're listening
to a little kid, you know, a five year old
have a tantrum about something, that looks very different than
listening to you know, a sixteen year old share about
you know, pornography or sex stuff or tech stuff or
school stuff. I mean, that looks very different. When we
get into the teenage years, there's a lot I talk
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about just being present, and so I love what you're doing.
It's like, basically, I'm here if and when you want
to talk, I will make myself available as opposed to
we need to talk about this, like you can't like
hold this in that's like our desperation and our needs.
They won't respond to that, they will distance themselves.
Speaker 2 (24:47):
Yeah, exactly.
Speaker 1 (24:48):
So I love that you figured that out because I mean,
I'm sure that completely transformed your relationship totally.
Speaker 2 (24:53):
It took years for me to hear him on that,
Like it was so hard for me, and then I
finally just had to have faith that if I followed
his lean, things would work out. And then lo and behold.
You know, he shares with me way more than he
would have had I forced him right, way more.
Speaker 1 (25:13):
And you can't force him.
Speaker 2 (25:15):
No, no, they're gonna shut down.
Speaker 1 (25:17):
Yeah, I mean I have one of my three is
a teenager who he's more reserved and even like his
brothers or dad will be like, you know, he doesn't
talk to me, or he doesn't you know, I don't
know what's going on with him, And I'm like, well,
I totally know what's going on with him, and he
completely talks to me, like y'all need to just shut
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up for a minute. Yeah, I just let him like yeah,
like he's not a kid who's going to or a
young man who's going to fight for airtime. But he
knows that if he needs me, I'm here. I'm not like,
you know, texting him and calling him and being like,
you know, hey, what's up? What's going on? I was this?
(26:00):
Did you solve this problem? I just say like, hey,
if you want me, I'm here. Or I say hey,
do you want me to reach out to you regularly?
If so, like what's regularly for you? Like what would
you like for me? And then he just shows up
of his own own free will. I feel like I
very close. I know everything that I would want to
(26:23):
know about what's going on with him.
Speaker 2 (26:25):
It's amazing.
Speaker 1 (26:26):
But that only happens because I get really quiet, and
sometimes that looks like him calling me and me coming
for in the same house in that moment, and me
like going into his room and sitting there, and I
might sit there for ten or fifteen minutes and he
might not say anything. Yeah, And that can feel, like
(26:47):
you said, listening to the silence can feel uncomfortable. I'm
not uncomfortable with it anymore because I recognize that he
wants me there and my presence is plenty, and that
when he's ready, he'll share what he wants to share,
and inevitably that is what happens. And oftentimes at the
end it looks like silence again, and I say, you know,
(27:07):
are you wanting me to stay here? So I'm happy
to stay here, would you like me to stay here?
Or ill often say like or are you done with me?
You know? And I'm done with you? You can go yeah, okay,
and then I go and like, there you have it.
Speaker 2 (27:22):
Yeah. Yeah. My kid even comes to me when I
don't know anything's wrong now, and he says, can we talk?
And he wants, you know, you to turn off whatever
you're doing and like look at him, even though like
eye contact is not his thing, but he wants to know,
like do I have your full attention because what I'm
about to tell you is important? Or you know, what
(27:44):
I need you for is really important. I love that
And that's everything. It's yeah, like instead of stewing and exploding, right,
he's seeking at least a regulated presence or somebody who
just will listen and say, I see you, I get it.
Speaker 1 (28:00):
Right, And he's he's like a man now asking for help.
And that's coming back to my mission, right, that's how
we create a more peaceful world. One sweet boy at
a ton. It is so important that we teach our
boys to ask for help. Yes, and that doesn't mean
going like, hey, I need you to ask for help,
like when you need it. It looks like these examples
(28:21):
that we've been talking about. It looks all kinds of
different ways, depending on your child and depending on their
age and all of the things. But how beautiful that
now you have this emotionally intelligent man who understands that
when he's struggling, it's a great idea to reach out
and he knows that there's somebody there that he can
reach out to. Like that would be my wish for
(28:43):
every young boy as he grows into a man.
Speaker 2 (28:46):
Totally. Yeah, seeking connection, right, it's seeking connection in those times,
not necessarily seeking help or advice or guidance, but just
connection has a lot of power.
Speaker 1 (28:59):
Yeah, And not feeling shame in needing or wanting that
connection or help if they need it, and not feeling
like they need to figure it out on their own,
because that's when we get into trouble.
Speaker 2 (29:10):
Mm hmm. We could talk about this for a very
long time, but we're already out of time. This is
our bite size lesson in the healing power of emotions.
But I want you, Tasha, to tell everybody where can
they connect with you online? Where they can get your
book all of these things.
Speaker 1 (29:30):
Yeah, So I well, I don't know when this is
gonna go live, but I have a website parentingboyspeacefully dot
com and so if you want to go there, I
have a ten day reconnect that's just a great way
for you to either start connecting or deepen your connection
with your sweet boy. So that would be a great
(29:51):
place to get started. Yeah, and the book you can
just find wherever books are sold.
Speaker 2 (29:59):
Pretty standard, right, Yeah, I'll link it up for everybody
in the show notes at PARENTINGADHD and auntism dot com
slash three two to two for episode three hundred and
twenty two. Oh, Tash, I always feel a little bit
later talking to you, and a lot more hopeful for
our boys and just for all of humanity, honestly, And
(30:23):
I appreciate that, and I appreciate the work that you're
doing for our boys so that they can feel and
not be shamed, and you know, that's where they're going
to have a fulfilling life. And so I just appreciate
you so much.
Speaker 1 (30:35):
Thank you that means a lot to me. I do.
I think of myself as kind of an injector of hope.
So when I know that it's working, that makes me
feel really good, because I do feel like the situation
is hopeful and it's a hard time right now, but
there's so much we can do as parents of young boys,
or as parents of anybody to help life go better
for them, for our family, and for the bigger world
(30:56):
out there.
Speaker 2 (30:58):
Love it. I will see everybody in time. Take good care.
I see you. You're doing hard and meaningful work, and
you don't have to do it alone. If you found
this episode helpful, share it with someone who needs it
and leave a quick review so others can find this
support too. When you're ready for next steps, the Regulated
(31:20):
Kids Project is here with the tools, coaching, and community
to help you raise a more regulated, resilient child. Get
more info at regulated kids dot com.
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