March 6, 2025 • 42 mins
What if the most significant thing holding you back was simply a story you’ve been telling yourself? In this episode of Becoming Your Warrior, I sit down with Jesse Correll, the coach who has profoundly impacted my life, relationships, and confidence. Working with Jesse helped me dissolve deep-seated limitations, shift old patterns, and step into my true self with ease.
Jesse shares his transformation journey—navigating his own dark night of the soul, breaking free from resistance, and discovering the power of true acceptance. We dive into the mindset shifts that create lasting change, why presence is key to living a fulfilled life, and how letting go of old identities can free you.
This conversation is for you if you’ve ever felt stuck, lost, or uncertain about your path. Tune in to learn how to embrace who you are and start creating a life filled with peace, confidence, and authenticity.
You can find Jesse's work at
https://www.jesse-correll.com/
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Speaker 1 (00:01):
Welcome to the Becoming your Warrior podcast.
This is the place where you getto feel inspired and empowered
to step into your very best life.
Hi, it's Em.
Welcome to this very specialepisode of the Becoming your
Warrior podcast, where I am soexcited to share with you
(00:22):
someone who's had such aprofound impact on my life, on
my mindset, on my relationshipto myself and to my life, and
his name is Jesse Correll.
Jesse is, in my humble opinion,one of the top mindset coaches,
and I have just been so blessedand so lucky to have him come
(00:43):
into my life.
I have just been so blessed andso lucky to have him come into
my life.
In this episode, jesse not onlyhelps me to understand even more
about my mindset, but he alsoshares his own story coming from
corporate America runningmulti-million dollar projects to
absolutely going through hisown dark night of the soul where
he just felt like he was goingcrazy.
He didn't know who he was.
(01:04):
That led him on his ownself-discovery journey, and now
he gets to be of service andhelp so many people and I
personally know so many peoplewho have benefited from working
with Jesse so I'm very excitedto share him with you today.
I'm very excited to share hiswork, and I just know you're
going to get so much out of this.
So, jesse, welcome to theBecoming your Warrior podcast.
(01:31):
Thank you, emma.
Good to see you.
It's good to see you too.
I'm really, really excited thatyou're here, especially finding
out now that this is your firstpodcast ever.
Speaker 2 (01:42):
Yes, it is, you are the one.
So thank you for the invite.
I'm excited to be here.
Speaker 1 (01:47):
Yeah, me too.
You know I've been coached byyou.
I've got to know you as mycoach and as a coach over the
last few months as well, andreally got to experience the
magic that you bring and thepresence and the grounding and
all your skills in helping medissolve a lot of stuff that I
had going on.
But I would love to know howthis version of you came to be.
(02:11):
So where did this begin for you?
How did you get to be thisversion of you that helps other
people?
Speaker 2 (02:21):
Good question, no pressure on the delivering on
all of that.
Really just from my ownsuffering, like it's essentially
, I went through sort of adarkness or dark suffering that
really led to an awakening andthrough that developed a deep
sense of compassion to be ableto serve others.
(02:43):
And that's like the shortversion.
The longer version is when Iwent through that I realized I'd
always been helping people andmentoring and coaching and doing
things.
It just wasn't called likemindset coaching, which I do now
.
So when I came through thisother side of just darkness, I
realized my mission is to be avessel of love and light and
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serve others and I had sort ofan awakening of an ability to
really see and understand peopleand hold space in a way that
would help them find their owninternal wisdom.
So yeah, that's how.
Speaker 1 (03:22):
Yeah, and can you share?
I mean, how long did that lastfor you in terms of going
through that dark period of yourlife, how long did that last
for and how did that affect you?
Speaker 2 (03:35):
Yeah, it affected me like really greatly, probably
for at least six months, butmore like a year and a half.
I'm very stubborn, and soputting these tools into place
and breaking free from thisdarkness was a real struggle for
me.
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So essentially, I kind of justgot hit over the head by the
universe and had this likelifetime of emotions that I had
suppressed and repressed, andbeing like a guy growing up the
way that I did.
I never cried, I never feltthings like at least, that's
that's kind of how I was raised,not by anybody, but that's what
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I perceive things to be.
So I sort of just hit a momentwhere it all came up and then I
started to feel kind of crazy orlike what's going on, and I was
very emotional.
I started to cry a lot and I wasin charge of really big
projects, contracting forcompanies, managing teams, and I
was not able to like keep ittogether I guess is the way I
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would describe it and I justfelt really emotional.
And then, through the nighttimes, I really felt like I was
maybe dying or something.
I was like what is going on?
I'm either losing my mind, I'mdying, I'm going to have to run
away, and I just really realizedthat I couldn't be with myself.
I was really good at creatinglife in what looks like a good
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way, like successful at sports,successful at business, able to
create a relationship, friendsbut inside there was something
that was like not okay justbeing with myself, and when I
would stop, my typical thingwould be to get a little bit
angry or edgy, and and then whenI had this moment, it was like
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now's the time to to face all ofthis stuff.
So it was sort of a pivotalmoment where I felt like maybe I
lost my mind and then I wasjust in this struggle, internal
battle with myself of like Idon't think I can get through
this, it's too much, and I justkind of went really dark.
And and I just kind of wentreally dark and it was about a
(05:46):
year and a half.
That was really your question oflike struggle, internal turmoil
.
The worst of it was at thebeginning of that period, but it
really gave me the tools tostart.
I had a lot of tools, but ithelped me like put things
together, that I was playingthis human game and not really
connected to my authentic self.
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I had these masks on.
I was always trying to be thischaracter that everybody loved
and liked, and I was pretty goodat it, but it was never me, and
that was the problem.
I needed to run away.
I was like I need to get out ofthis relationship.
This isn't the one, this isn'tit, and I would just constantly
need to go somewhere else.
And this kind of experience, um, just just leveled me to where
(06:30):
I couldn't get away from itanymore and so what, what, I
guess, what action steps did youtake?
Speaker 1 (06:38):
or you know, you're in that dark place, it's, it's
obviously very challenging whenyou're in that place.
Like how did you, how did youget through that?
Like what, what steps did youtake?
Speaker 2 (06:50):
well, I tried everything, every modality.
I had acupuncture, I hadmassage, I did all the different
mindset things, um, withdifferent modalities and people,
and I have a lot of tools.
I already had studied a lot ofdifferent under a lot of
different healers and types ofthings, um, but really the
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pivotal thing for me was justcoming to terms.
Can I just be like?
The simple question I asked wascan I just be okay?
That this is how I feel?
Very simple, not easy, becausewhat I was trying to do was fix
it, get rid of it, run away fromit.
Okay, I can't feel like this.
I've got to get rid of this.
What's wrong with me?
(07:36):
Why do I feel this way?
Okay, how's some, what's somemechanisms to cope with this?
What can I do to get throughthe day?
All of this kind of rejecting,resist, like resistance of
what's there, and there's theexpression what you resist
persists.
And I was resisting and when Ireally just came to a moment of
laying in bed at night saying,if this is how you feel, can you
just be okay with it, my answerto that for like a year was no,
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because I feel like I'm goingcrazy.
And then one night I said yeah,I can If this is the way that I
feel I can be with this.
And then it softened its gripon me.
It's quite simple to get out ofresistances, to come into
acceptance for what's there notto resign and stay there, but
just to allow it to be there.
And that's a big part of mywork, as you know, with people
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is getting them into a place ofacceptance so that then we can
go somewhere.
But as long as I'm resisting me, I can't get anywhere and I'm
pretty stubborn and I resistedfor a long time.
So that was a pivotal momentfor me was can I be with this?
That question, and I reallystruggled with that question for
(08:42):
a long time.
Yeah, and I really struggledwith that question for a long
time.
Speaker 1 (08:47):
Yeah, how did going through that?
Because obviously I know that,you know you were very
successful in sports and thenobviously in the corporate world
as well.
I mean, how did going throughthat time in your life impact
your career?
Like what happened?
What was birthed out of that, Iguess?
Speaker 2 (09:02):
Yeah, beautiful birthing really.
When I had this, it kind of hada moment where I lost my mind
and I was over a weekend and Iwas managing three projects,
multi-million dollar projects,lots of teams, vendors, people
and I disappeared from work.
I turned my phone off anddidn't tell anyone and didn't
(09:25):
turn it on for two weeks and soI thought, okay, well, I guess
I've been fired.
Clearly I'm a contractor.
It was easy to get rid of meand I was still not well.
So a couple of weeks I turnedmy phone on and I'm like I don't
know what I'm going to do.
Do I even want to go to thisjob?
But I have bills and I have.
I don't know what I'm going todo.
Do I even want to go to thisjob?
(09:46):
But I have bills and I have alife to sort of deal with.
So I was trying to pick myselfup and when I did, I tried to
log in.
I was working from home.
I tried to log in, my accountwas locked.
I'm like that makes sense.
And then I was like, okay, I'llmessage my old boss.
And so I sent him a message andit's like I'll call you in a
(10:07):
few minutes.
And then calls like whathappened to you?
So I just I was thinking like,okay, how do I lie about this?
And so I just told him thetruth.
I just couldn't turn my phoneon.
I couldn't face this.
I've had this high anxiety.
I couldn't do any of this.
(10:29):
And by the end of theconversation I thought I was
getting fired.
I was told I was being a leaderin mental health and wanted me
to come in and talk to people.
Like well, what really happenedwas, on the call he started
(10:50):
telling me about his anxiety andhow all this you know, through
through this last period he'shad this with his family and I
became it's like the birthing ofthe coach started, but of just
the listener.
And through my release, thislike energetic release I felt
this sense of like feeling whathe was saying in me.
I was like, oh, I get this.
And then at the end of theconversation he's like I want to
(11:10):
talk to you more, I want you tocome in and talk to other
people.
So I went in and I kind ofreborn into something that
experienced I would callsomething woo-woo before or a
little bit funny, but I couldfeel like vibrations off of
people or just whether they wereOK or not.
So I walked into the office forthe first time after like three
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weeks and my boss's boss waswalking and I saw her in the
parking lot and she's like wherehave you been, are you OK?
And I'm like I haven't been OK.
And then she starts crying andtelling me she hasn't been OK
and all the pressure from thejob being executive.
And we go to the coffee shopand I sit there for an hour and
listen to her and the next thing, you know, I'm.
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I'm in this, you know, it'sjust, everyone wants to chat and
it was created by me beingvulnerable, whereas I used to
pretend that I had everythingunder control and I was good at
playing that game.
But when I shared myself likeno, I've been going through this
, I've been anxious, I've beenfeeling like this it paved a
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path and people walked on it andso that started sort of the
birthing of a coaching business.
But I didn't know that.
Then I kind of was like okay,pick the career up, get back on
track, do the job.
You know, the old me came backin and said get back into this
old world.
So I did that.
(12:34):
But while that was happening, Iwas getting hit with messages
of like this isn't your pathanymore.
And it was scary to change pathsbecause I made a lot of money
that way.
It was pretty easy for me.
I got contracts, I made goodmoney, but something was guiding
me or there was something in methat was like there's something
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else for you to serve peoplewith and it's being brought to
you by these conversations andthey just kept showing up.
Everywhere I went, with friends, with community, I would share
about what I was going throughand it would pave a path and
people would be telling me aboutwhat they've been going through
and how it's helped them to seesomeone that they thought was
really successful actually havesome struggles.
(13:16):
And you know, my friendsthought I had everything
together and I was like wellsometimes, but not all the time
because I'm human, and so thatbirthed a coaching career.
Speaker 1 (13:28):
Yeah, Wow, and so I mean for you.
Obviously the idea was beingdownloaded to you.
You know it was being gifted toyou, that, something else.
This is something else that'sdeveloping now.
But you know, did you studywith other people or were you
just, you know, using your ownintuition, or had you done
studies before that?
Speaker 2 (13:49):
yeah, I'd done a lot of studies before that and then
I continued to do studies afterthat, but I had.
I had done a number ofmodalities, subconscious
reprogramming things, all justfor personal use.
So I'd done this thing calledsite k for many years.
I'd done body work withmyofascial release, looking at
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trauma in the body I'd been to.
I've traveled a lot, been toThailand with different healers,
been to other parts of Asia,all over Central and South
America, and just kind ofgarnered little bits of
information.
I was doing it, I thought, justfor me, and so it bits of
information.
I was doing it, I thought, justfor me, and so it was just
things that I was interested in.
And it kind of came togetherwhere I was like, oh, I've been
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gathering this for a long timeto serve others.
I just was keeping it to myselfand so, and then you know, I
started working under a coupleof coaches.
I went through Peter Kern'smastermind around that time and
that was a pivotal kind ofelement as well, because what he
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was describing, in the way thathe delineates this stuff, was
something that really resonatedwith what I was experiencing,
which was the absence of me andall my stories.
What became kind of present,was like the real me, and that
really resonated.
So I did that work with withhim and then I continued to do
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work with a number of peopleyeah, fantastic.
Speaker 1 (15:20):
And that, that journey of I guess because I
know you've got a reallybeautiful quote actually on your
website which is um.
It's about when um Michelangelowas asked about how he
discovered, how he, you know,carved david, you know out of
this marble and he just said um,I just removed all the parts
(15:43):
that weren't david yeah yeahdavid was always there.
Speaker 2 (15:48):
I just removed everything that wasn't david and
that's essentially the workthat I did internally with
myself and now do with clients.
It's quite, quite simplebecause there's nothing to add.
It's a dissolution, it's asubtraction process, removing
everything in the way so theauthentic you can be revealed.
So I went through that with me,which was a struggle.
(16:10):
It was really hard.
It's quite simple but not easy.
So that's that process.
It's just removal of all of themasks, the things that I put in
the way that I thought I had todo in order to be loved and
accepted in the world, and sothat that became that driver to
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create life for me.
That wasn't serving me anymore.
Speaker 1 (16:35):
Yeah, and for somebody like you know, for
someone who's listening, who'slike, what do you mean the real
you?
You know I am the real me andall that kind of stuff.
How would you describe that Ifsomebody was like I feel a bit
lost and I feel a bit uncertainabout my life and maybe I feel a
bit inadequate, but like Idon't know what you mean by the
real me, Like, how would youdescribe that to someone who
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maybe was just at the start ofthis journey?
Speaker 2 (17:03):
Yeah, that's a good question.
The way that I would describethat is when you're able to be
you with a sense of peace andease, and you know whether
that's there for you or not.
So the real you is in theabsence of trying to be anything
to garner love and acceptancefrom anyone else.
If I think I have to besomething, that's not me.
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That's saying who I am is notenough.
I have to be something.
So to find that, it's knowingif you feel lost, if you feel
stuck, if you feel in thoseplaces, it's not you.
And the real you is this dynamicbeing.
It's love, it's creativity,it's ease, it's flow.
It's not static.
I have this type of personality, I'm this type of person.
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It's always like this for meand this is how life is and
that's the human game of justreally static understanding of
everything is this way, and thegame that I'm playing is a
dynamic one.
So who I am are these.
You know I'm loving creativityand a life force, energy that
flows through this human bodythat then has fun and creates
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things.
It's like that kid you werewhen you were five years old.
You just express.
It's just a pure lifeexpression 's, no filter.
So it's finding that, with somediscernment of being an adult
and dealing with, you know,taxes and bills and people and
that stuff.
Speaker 1 (18:24):
So there's blending of being an adult but allowing
that pure spirit to come throughyeah, how has doing this work
and going through that sort ofdark night of the soul for you
and coming into this work anddiscovering the real you, how
has it impacted your life?
How has it changed your life?
Speaker 2 (18:45):
Everything's changed.
It's changed everything Likethis work really does miracles
in so many ways.
But within my immediate familyyou family my relationship with
my wife has completely changed.
With my parents, that's thehardest one.
I feel like I got through thefinal stage of this work by
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having this beautifulrelationship with my parents now
, and they didn't do this work.
I did it and that's the powerin it is.
It's not out there, it's in you,and so the impact is I get to
serve people.
What a blessing that is.
Help others create the life,the dream that they want.
I've, I've been able to haveimpacts on my family nieces,
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nephews, cousins, uncles, auntseveryone through various ways,
everyone through various waysand my parents.
I've.
I've been able to, like my mom'sreally open to this work.
I've coached her, I've helpedher reframe her relationship
with her mom, who's passed.
That has a big impact and theripple effect I can't see.
And so this work for me hasjust created such a depth of
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like, connection and love in somany areas that it it makes me
get teary thinking about itbecause it's just overwhelming.
It's a sense of like, of, of ofall, or something for life that
comes through when I see thatme going through this actually
has served so much, and in thatsense I would never wish that
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dark night on myself or someoneelse.
But it actually created thisbeautiful gift for the world and
it was for me.
I just couldn't see it until Ican see it now.
Speaker 1 (20:25):
Yeah, and we were just talking about your mom
before, the fact that she tookup surfing at 60 and she's just,
you know, this amazingadventurous spirit.
But you also said that kind ofcame from you as well, like your
call to adventure.
Can you tell me about, likenature, and about the adventures
that that you've been on aswell?
Speaker 2 (20:46):
I know you mentioned like central america and south
america, and yeah, yeah, a bigpart of my journey was, um,
super successful in corporatecorporate America.
At a young age by the time Iwas 25, I was managing teams and
making a lot of money for aFortune 500 company which is
just a really big, rich companyout of New York City.
And I was kind of on this path,like am I going to do this
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forever, like till I retire?
I had an awesome projection ofretirement and money and these
things retire.
I had an awesome projection ofretirement and money and these
things.
And I got an opportunity to berelocated to New York City or
take a severance pay, aredundancy package, because my
office was closing and I tookthe redundancy and moved all my
things out of my house into mytruck and packed up my surfboard
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cameras, camping gear and Idrove into Mexico with no plan,
no phone and just the generalplan was drive South, maybe get
to Costa Rica, which is ahandful of countries down.
So that was it.
I was like I'm just going to gocamping, go like have
experience with local people.
I really wanted to learnSpanish and so I wanted to have
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this like engagement withcommunity and just an adventure.
So I did that and the plan wasfor three months and it was
interesting because right when Iwas leaving, I got a job offer
for something where I lived,which was California, that I
really wanted, and I was like,oh, but I'm going on this trip.
Can I start in three months?
I'm like, no, it's now or we'rehiring someone else.
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So it was like the old me waslike stay safe.
And people were telling me, assoon as you drive into mexico
with this truck with acalifornia plates, you know
someone's gonna come rob you andall this, you know stuff from
people that have never beenthere, projecting sort of all
this fear onto a place.
And I just went, took the thekind of scary route and said I'm
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going into the unknown and, um,instead of it being three
months, it lasted um, just undertwo years.
My drive and I went through,passed through costa rica, into
south america, did volunteerprojects, camped, surf, you know
, had military pullovers withguns, police like, but so many
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beautiful engagements andencounters with just the local
people.
It was such I thought like Iwas the one that was like
educated and smart, and I wentinto, like you know, mexico,
guatemala, el Salvador, andfound that I was learning from
everybody else, like they knewhow to be really present.
That was like kind of the startof this presence.
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That I was lacking was peoplethat didn't have the money, kind
of didn't have the, maybedidn't have the choice, but they
had a beautiful way of creatingcommunity and people with
nothing were inviting me intotheir homes, making me family,
giving me, sharing their food.
You know they quite a few ofthem expect me to come back, you
know, and, and it was such adifferent thing than the culture
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I came from, where we're likeoh, I hope I don't see my
neighbor and have to wave today.
You know it's like, ah, it wassuch a contrast for what I was
experiencing and um, and thatthat really is a big part of
like an adventure, that birth,because it just kept getting
deeper.
I drifted down the Amazon on aslow boat, hiked in the
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communities and brought, youknow, gifts and things to try to
like, have an exchange andexperience, and stayed with
different healers, shamans andwent through like medicines and
local things and all kinds ofstuff and, um it, it changed my
life forever.
Speaker 1 (24:22):
So, yeah, yeah, and, and I mean now, how much does um
, I mean it might sound like abit of a weird question, but
like, how much is nature a partof your daily life now?
Speaker 2 (24:39):
Yeah, why.
Speaker 1 (24:41):
Yeah.
Speaker 2 (24:42):
I feel really connected in nature.
I've always been a surfer and abeach kid so that's kind of
been something I did.
But I would say daily I gooutside on a walk to the beach
and the ocean, to the rainforest.
Blessed to live in Australia,which has so much access to
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nature very close by and for me,I'm, you know, kind of a bird
nerd.
I listen for the birds, checkout what's around, like really
tune in to what's there, and Ifind that's a good practice to
just becoming present as well asjust listening to the ocean, to
the sounds, you know, feelingthe sand.
Speaker 1 (25:21):
But that that experience with nature for me is
a big part of my life yeah,I've got a really loud magpie
that I listen to at 5 30 everymorning, so that's what a
blessing thank you, magpie.
Thank you, I have my ownpersonal uh uh cockerel outside
the window, so, uh, yeah, thatgets me out of bed in the
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morning.
So that's fun, um, can you, canyou share with me?
I mean, I think obviously wemet when I went through the
mastermind, mastermind um withpeter crone and um can you
explain to me your journeythrough that process, as in
going into that as a studentyourself, and how you ended up
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now to be working within thatteam?
You know um so close to peterand and working I'm not sure of
the exact as one of his mentorsis.
Is that the correct?
Speaker 2 (26:17):
yeah I'll explain it, yeah yeah, no, um, the, the
mastermind was transformativefor me personally and, um, it
really helped me piece all ofthese modalities together and
aligned with what I was goingthrough.
And then I was still a bit inthis space of like the.
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Maybe it's the dark night ofthe soul, but this darkness, and
when I came out of it, I cameout of it like with with an
enthusiasm, like unlike anything, but what was left behind was
my wife, who had dealt with methrough the other period, and
then we were in this likedisconnect, like she had pretty
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much set down everything to makesure I was OK for that giant
period of time.
And so, through doing thatmastermind, we hired Peter for
private coaching to do couplescoaching.
We were essentially breaking upand I had just moved out as a
separation and we were like wecouldn't get to a place of like,
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really understanding each otherand being in that place of like
, how to move forward together.
So we did some coaching withPeter, which I thought, um, he
would reveal to her all of herconstraints and limitations that
were causing our problems.
And he gave me the smack downand held her in love and gave me
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the hard love down and held herin love and gave me the hard
love and I was wrong yet again.
It won't be the last time, um.
And so through that process, uh,I got super angry at at him at
the, you know, I just had angerthat came up, um, and it really
kind of dissolved ourrelationship down to nothing,
which I thought we were like,okay, it's done and're okay with
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that.
It was more of like a consciousseparation, you know decoupling
.
And then, when we really got tothe bottom of it and kind of
bared our souls, something newbirthed in that moment in my
relationship, which is such ablessing for me and I have such,
a, like, amazing wife, like youknow, to put up with me through
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all of that and just even still.
And so, as a part of that, Ipitched some ideas to Peter.
While I was angry at him, Isaid, oh, I'm mad about this
coaching while it was unfolding.
However, I have some brilliantideas where I could contribute
to your environment and you knowhe's one of the top, if not the
top, mindset coaches in theworld, commands a really high
(28:50):
fee, works with, you know,professional athletes,
billionaires, millionaires inthat level, and there was some
space there to serve him in thecommunity.
So I pitched some ideas andvery long story of how to create
something powerfully which Iwork with people that I coach.
Long story short, I became oneof what's called a mastermind
(29:12):
mentor, which is his flagshipprogram, and so now in that
community I guide people where Imet you through learning the
teachings that he teaches.
Speaker 1 (29:22):
They also have an opportunity, if you're in that,
to get um to hire me as a coach,and so that's another role I
play there and it's just been ablessing for me yeah and um, I
mean I've said this to youbefore, but I'll say it again I
just can't like for me goingthrough mastermind six with you
(29:44):
and and obviously the the othertwo mentors as well, but just I
can't actually imagine what itwould have been like going
through it without you guysbeing there.
Because, my god, the integrationthat I've had and obviously
doing, you know, a couple ofone-on-one sessions with you as
well, I mean, like Peter's workis just insane, it's phenomenal,
(30:08):
but it's just there's so muchand to actually have you know
yourself and and the other twomentors just actually support
everybody through that and theintegration and just being like
it's okay, you don't have to getit all at once, you know, and
like let's, let's work throughthis.
So, yeah, thank you from thebottom of my heart for the work
that you've done.
Honestly, it's just beenamazing, so very grateful.
(30:30):
Yeah, I want to kind of talk alittle bit about for you, like,
do you have like daily practices?
I know this being this beingwith yourself and being this
real you and kind of, yeah, justbeing really at peace with who
you are but do you have dailypractices yourself to keep you
(30:54):
in alignment or just to be inalignment?
Speaker 2 (30:57):
Yeah, that's a good question.
That changes for me over timeso depending on where I've been
on my journey, I would probablyhave different answers.
Like, as I came through andfelt really, really good.
After that period I describedbefore, I put in a lot of
practices.
I was still like, don't slipback into the darkness.
(31:19):
Now I've kind of integratedthose practices that they come
through me automatically, whichis some awareness, some
acceptance.
Like if my thinking and way ofjust how I feel in a day is off,
if I feel anxious or if I feellike I start getting, you know,
(31:40):
my thinking gets critical ofmyself.
I'm really quick to see it.
So it's not that I'm at allperfect.
I still get triggered.
I get these things.
The amount of time I stay thereis short.
So the practice for me isrecognizing with awareness and
then allowing, you know, withthe acceptance and letting
things be there, and I find theysettle quickly.
(32:02):
There's a number of things thatI do in a journal settle
quickly.
There's a number of things thatI do in a journal.
I like to send blessings topeople, which is just an
invisible process that I doinside of me, including sending
them to myself, and it's like Ican't bless someone and judge
them at the same time.
So if I'm driving and there'ssome roadworks and I'm like,
look at these idiots, then I golike, oh wait, it's okay, I'll
(32:25):
send them blessings for the workthey're doing, and I can't do
both.
I can get back to judgingshortly after if I want to, but
it tends to remind me of who I'mcommitted to being and just
like being in that place of easeso that that practice works.
I like to exercise.
I think just getting in natureand moving really helps.
There's a number of things I'vedone in there, so it kind of
(32:49):
depends on how I'm feeling inthe day.
I'm in a very much like flowway of approaching those daily
practices.
Speaker 1 (32:58):
Yeah, and do you do yourself?
Obviously, I know you have beencoached and you continue to
work with Peter as well, but doyou have your own coach, like
outside of that, like, do you?
I?
Speaker 2 (33:12):
do yeah, I work with yeah.
Sorry, what was the question?
Speaker 1 (33:16):
Oh no, just yeah.
Just tell me why you know, atthe level that you're at, like
why would you still have a coach?
Speaker 2 (33:26):
I guess I don't really like see that I'm at any
level, like I actually just seethat we're all at the same level
.
It's more someone like a clientwould feel like I'm at some
level and they're below.
I don't see it that way andthat's part of the beauty of the
coaching is I'm like you'repretending to be at a lower
level, but in my own space it's.
(33:49):
I find it's just been reallyuseful for me.
It was something new.
I never did therapy, I nevertalked to anybody.
I got it all on my own.
I'm a man.
I can stack it on and sort outlife.
No one needs to help me.
That version of me is not hereand I find having a space that I
can talk into is really helpfulfor me.
And any limitations that comeup as a blind spot typically as
(34:13):
the way that I what I think ispossible, if I speak that in
with the coach that I work with,he'll come in and we'll kind of
smash that.
So anywhere I put a ceiling onwhat's possible for me, we make
that the new floor and then I'mlike, oh, but I could never get
here.
And then we put that and smashthrough and that's kind of a
(34:34):
never ending process and I findit's just really nice to have
like a safe space, someone tomirror me, for me to talk into,
to see if there's anything thatI'm missing, and just to really
make sure I'm like grounded inwhat I'm committed to creating.
Speaker 1 (34:49):
Yeah, and if somebody again hasn't tried coaching
because there's different typesof coaching, right, there's like
strategy and like action and dothis and and do that.
Like, how would you describeyour style of of coaching?
Like, what could somebodyexpect when they, when they come
to you, um, they, could expect.
Speaker 2 (35:10):
I guess the like common feedback that I get from
clients is that they're they'recreating life with a sense of
peace and ease, like that'sprobably the the, the end
product.
Like we want.
We have these goals in life.
I want to to create some people.
I work with our executives.
They want to do whatever theywant to do.
Their business owners want toexpand their business.
(35:31):
Other people stay at home, moms, and they're just overwhelmed.
You know, I kind of have thefull range of clients, very safe
space being seen, being heard,being held at like a highest
(35:51):
integrity of who you really are,so that your wisdom can come
through.
And so it's just a bit ofmirroring to see, like, what are
the programs that are running,who you are, who do you think
you are?
How do you relate to life?
How do you relate to others?
How do you relate to money, tospouses, to parents?
How did that create who you areand what is the story you're
telling yourself?
And by revealing that, we kindof discover some of the
(36:14):
subconscious constraints thatare in the way of the thing that
you want yeah, beautiful, and Imean in terms of your vision
for your life now.
Speaker 1 (36:25):
Like what, what, what do you?
What's next for you?
Like what, what do you?
What are you creating in yourlife right now?
Or, you know, is where you areright now just beautiful, and
and that's where you're at both,um, both of those things, uh
it's.
Speaker 2 (36:42):
I'm so blessed where I'm at right now and I like to
be inspired to create.
So the old me was creating inorder to fill an unfillable
bucket.
The new me has lofty goals andthings that I'm creating A lot
of.
It tends to be integrating theadventure style travel that I
love into my work.
(37:03):
So retreats would be somethingnew that I would look to doing,
which is just getting peopleinto somewhere spectacular with
great food I would like to eat,well, you know, do activities
and look at the centralprocessing of who you are in
your mind.
So essentially, my creationsare a little bit more expansion
(37:24):
into some travel with this work,um, reaching more people, kind
of helping people suffer less,helping people get into creation
, be inspired and just bethemselves, um, so that kind of
has a number of um forms, but atthe moment I've got like a
really great coaching practiceand a lot of work on and I'm
pretty blessed where I'm at too.
Speaker 1 (37:46):
Yeah, beautiful.
And for people out there who,again, maybe on this journey,
maybe on this path, like whatadvice would you give to
somebody like who is maybe goingthrough a dark night of the
soul they might not call it thatthey might not even have that
language, but are going througha really dark time in their
lives that they just don't knowif they're going to survive,
(38:08):
like.
What advice would you offerthem?
Speaker 2 (38:12):
Yeah, I mean, first thing I would say is it's okay
Like you are where you are.
It can feel really difficult ifyou're struggling, like nobody
gets me, no one can help me.
I'm always going to be likethis.
So my invitation would be toget out of resistance.
(38:33):
How do you get out ofresistance?
Can you just be where you are,which is always a hard
conversation to have withyourself in order to get out of
resistance?
It's like life is the way thatit is.
My resistance creates a gap andthat gap is filled with stuck
suffering and all kinds of stuff.
(38:54):
It's like if I injure my ankleyou know, sprained my ankle
today and then I don't like itbecause I like to go to walks
and surfing and volleyball, andit's ruining my life, it doesn't
change the fact that I havethis sprained ankle.
Now I'm suffering and have asprained ankle.
So be with the sprained ankle.
And if it's just like aninternal you know mental
(39:16):
struggle, the invitation wouldbe to you know, if you're doing
this by yourself, which I don'treally recommend but can you
just accept that whatever isthere is there.
If you can do that, get intoacceptance, that's like an
exponential leap from whereveryou are.
If you're in despair and youmake a jump to something neutral
(39:38):
, you don't have to love it, youdon't have to do anything like
that, but you just accept itLike this is the way that it is
and I can be okay ish with it.
Um, that would be a huge gain.
And then, outside of that, like, find someone, a trusted
resource that you could speakinto, someone that can kind of
hold you through it yeah,beautiful.
Speaker 1 (39:59):
Thank you, jesse.
And where?
Where can people find you?
Where can people find your workand what you've got coming up?
Speaker 2 (40:07):
Good luck finding me.
I'm hidden.
Now I've got a website,jessie-carellcom.
That's probably the easiestplace to find me.
I do have Instagram and thosethings.
I'm not super active on all thesocials and things like that.
I just kind of chip away withmy clients.
(40:27):
Let them refer people to me.
I get things through the workwe talked about with Peter and
I'm pretty low key on all ofthat stuff, but can find me
there.
I'm sure we'll share it.
But if you, yeah, that'sprobably the best ways.
Speaker 1 (40:43):
Yeah, um, I will definitely share your website
and, um, your work, and yeah,just, thank you so much for your
time today.
Jesse, it has just been solovely talking to you and, for
once, I get to ask all thequestions, which was fun yeah, I
didn't sign up for this.
Speaker 2 (41:01):
What's going on?
You put me on the hot seat.
No, thank you.
Yeah, thank you for inviting meand just for being you.
You know your commitment tohelping people getting these
messages out.
Working with people like you do, it's really beautiful and and
I'm excited to see how youcreate the things that you're in
the process of creating thankyou and I just want to add to it
(41:24):
I just really appreciate youand, uh, you are just an
absolutely magnificent humanbeing.
Speaker 1 (41:30):
I'm very, very grateful that you've come into
my life and I'm just so gratefulfor who you are, and and thank
you for just being such abeautiful support and just a
beautiful man.
Speaker 2 (41:40):
So yeah, thank you, emma, trying to make me cry at
the end.
I'm gonna keep going I'll getthem.
Speaker 1 (41:47):
Tears are there.
Speaker 2 (41:47):
I'm fighting them back.
I don't want to cry in front ofeverybody.
No, it's okay.
Speaker 1 (41:51):
It's okay to cry everybody yeah, yeah, thank you
so so much.
I really appreciate you and, um, yeah, and we will chat soon
all right, thanks, emma, see yousoon, thank you soon.
Thank you Well, I hope you gotas much out of that as I did,
(42:13):
because, even though I've workedwith Jesse one-on-one, there
were still so many goldendownloads that he shared in this
episode, and I'm super gratefulto him.
If you want to find out moreabout Jesse's work, how you can
work with him, just head to hiswebsite.
It is jesse-corellcom.
That is j-e-s-s-e-corell,c-o-r-r-e-l-lcom,
(42:35):
jesse-corellcom, and I will seeyou or speak to you in the next
episode.
Take care and look afteryourselves.
Welcome to the Becoming your Warrior podcast.
This is the place where you getto feel inspired and empowered
to step into your very best life.
Hi, it's Em.
Welcome to this very specialepisode of the Becoming your
Warrior podcast, where I am soexcited to share with you
(00:22):
someone who's had such aprofound impact on my life, on
my mindset, on my relationshipto myself and to my life, and
his name is Jesse Correll.
Jesse is, in my humble opinion,one of the top mindset coaches,
and I have just been so blessedand so lucky to have him come
(00:43):
into my life.
I have just been so blessed andso lucky to have him come into
my life.
In this episode, jesse not onlyhelps me to understand even more
about my mindset, but he alsoshares his own story coming from
corporate America runningmulti-million dollar projects to
absolutely going through hisown dark night of the soul where
he just felt like he was goingcrazy.
He didn't know who he was.
(01:04):
That led him on his ownself-discovery journey, and now
he gets to be of service andhelp so many people and I
personally know so many peoplewho have benefited from working
with Jesse so I'm very excitedto share him with you today.
I'm very excited to share hiswork, and I just know you're
going to get so much out of this.
So, jesse, welcome to theBecoming your Warrior podcast.
(01:31):
Thank you, emma.
Good to see you.
It's good to see you too.
I'm really, really excited thatyou're here, especially finding
out now that this is your firstpodcast ever.
Speaker 2 (01:42):
Yes, it is, you are the one.
So thank you for the invite.
I'm excited to be here.
Speaker 1 (01:47):
Yeah, me too.
You know I've been coached byyou.
I've got to know you as mycoach and as a coach over the
last few months as well, andreally got to experience the
magic that you bring and thepresence and the grounding and
all your skills in helping medissolve a lot of stuff that I
had going on.
But I would love to know howthis version of you came to be.
(02:11):
So where did this begin for you?
How did you get to be thisversion of you that helps other
people?
Speaker 2 (02:21):
Good question, no pressure on the delivering on
all of that.
Really just from my ownsuffering, like it's essentially
, I went through sort of adarkness or dark suffering that
really led to an awakening andthrough that developed a deep
sense of compassion to be ableto serve others.
(02:43):
And that's like the shortversion.
The longer version is when Iwent through that I realized I'd
always been helping people andmentoring and coaching and doing
things.
It just wasn't called likemindset coaching, which I do now
.
So when I came through thisother side of just darkness, I
realized my mission is to be avessel of love and light and
(03:07):
serve others and I had sort ofan awakening of an ability to
really see and understand peopleand hold space in a way that
would help them find their owninternal wisdom.
So yeah, that's how.
Speaker 1 (03:22):
Yeah, and can you share?
I mean, how long did that lastfor you in terms of going
through that dark period of yourlife, how long did that last
for and how did that affect you?
Speaker 2 (03:35):
Yeah, it affected me like really greatly, probably
for at least six months, butmore like a year and a half.
I'm very stubborn, and soputting these tools into place
and breaking free from thisdarkness was a real struggle for
me.
(03:55):
So essentially, I kind of justgot hit over the head by the
universe and had this likelifetime of emotions that I had
suppressed and repressed, andbeing like a guy growing up the
way that I did.
I never cried, I never feltthings like at least, that's
that's kind of how I was raised,not by anybody, but that's what
(04:19):
I perceive things to be.
So I sort of just hit a momentwhere it all came up and then I
started to feel kind of crazy orlike what's going on, and I was
very emotional.
I started to cry a lot and I wasin charge of really big
projects, contracting forcompanies, managing teams, and I
was not able to like keep ittogether I guess is the way I
(04:43):
would describe it and I justfelt really emotional.
And then, through the nighttimes, I really felt like I was
maybe dying or something.
I was like what is going on?
I'm either losing my mind, I'mdying, I'm going to have to run
away, and I just really realizedthat I couldn't be with myself.
I was really good at creatinglife in what looks like a good
(05:05):
way, like successful at sports,successful at business, able to
create a relationship, friendsbut inside there was something
that was like not okay justbeing with myself, and when I
would stop, my typical thingwould be to get a little bit
angry or edgy, and and then whenI had this moment, it was like
(05:26):
now's the time to to face all ofthis stuff.
So it was sort of a pivotalmoment where I felt like maybe I
lost my mind and then I wasjust in this struggle, internal
battle with myself of like Idon't think I can get through
this, it's too much, and I justkind of went really dark.
And and I just kind of wentreally dark and it was about a
(05:46):
year and a half.
That was really your question oflike struggle, internal turmoil
.
The worst of it was at thebeginning of that period, but it
really gave me the tools tostart.
I had a lot of tools, but ithelped me like put things
together, that I was playingthis human game and not really
connected to my authentic self.
(06:07):
I had these masks on.
I was always trying to be thischaracter that everybody loved
and liked, and I was pretty goodat it, but it was never me, and
that was the problem.
I needed to run away.
I was like I need to get out ofthis relationship.
This isn't the one, this isn'tit, and I would just constantly
need to go somewhere else.
And this kind of experience, um, just just leveled me to where
(06:30):
I couldn't get away from itanymore and so what, what, I
guess, what action steps did youtake?
Speaker 1 (06:38):
or you know, you're in that dark place, it's, it's
obviously very challenging whenyou're in that place.
Like how did you, how did youget through that?
Like what, what steps did youtake?
Speaker 2 (06:50):
well, I tried everything, every modality.
I had acupuncture, I hadmassage, I did all the different
mindset things, um, withdifferent modalities and people,
and I have a lot of tools.
I already had studied a lot ofdifferent under a lot of
different healers and types ofthings, um, but really the
(07:11):
pivotal thing for me was justcoming to terms.
Can I just be like?
The simple question I asked wascan I just be okay?
That this is how I feel?
Very simple, not easy, becausewhat I was trying to do was fix
it, get rid of it, run away fromit.
Okay, I can't feel like this.
I've got to get rid of this.
What's wrong with me?
(07:36):
Why do I feel this way?
Okay, how's some, what's somemechanisms to cope with this?
What can I do to get throughthe day?
All of this kind of rejecting,resist, like resistance of
what's there, and there's theexpression what you resist
persists.
And I was resisting and when Ireally just came to a moment of
laying in bed at night saying,if this is how you feel, can you
just be okay with it, my answerto that for like a year was no,
(07:59):
because I feel like I'm goingcrazy.
And then one night I said yeah,I can If this is the way that I
feel I can be with this.
And then it softened its gripon me.
It's quite simple to get out ofresistances, to come into
acceptance for what's there notto resign and stay there, but
just to allow it to be there.
And that's a big part of mywork, as you know, with people
(08:21):
is getting them into a place ofacceptance so that then we can
go somewhere.
But as long as I'm resisting me, I can't get anywhere and I'm
pretty stubborn and I resistedfor a long time.
So that was a pivotal momentfor me was can I be with this?
That question, and I reallystruggled with that question for
(08:42):
a long time.
Yeah, and I really struggledwith that question for a long
time.
Speaker 1 (08:47):
Yeah, how did going through that?
Because obviously I know that,you know you were very
successful in sports and thenobviously in the corporate world
as well.
I mean, how did going throughthat time in your life impact
your career?
Like what happened?
What was birthed out of that, Iguess?
Speaker 2 (09:02):
Yeah, beautiful birthing really.
When I had this, it kind of hada moment where I lost my mind
and I was over a weekend and Iwas managing three projects,
multi-million dollar projects,lots of teams, vendors, people
and I disappeared from work.
I turned my phone off anddidn't tell anyone and didn't
(09:25):
turn it on for two weeks and soI thought, okay, well, I guess
I've been fired.
Clearly I'm a contractor.
It was easy to get rid of meand I was still not well.
So a couple of weeks I turnedmy phone on and I'm like I don't
know what I'm going to do.
Do I even want to go to thisjob?
But I have bills and I have.
I don't know what I'm going todo.
Do I even want to go to thisjob?
(09:46):
But I have bills and I have alife to sort of deal with.
So I was trying to pick myselfup and when I did, I tried to
log in.
I was working from home.
I tried to log in, my accountwas locked.
I'm like that makes sense.
And then I was like, okay, I'llmessage my old boss.
And so I sent him a message andit's like I'll call you in a
(10:07):
few minutes.
And then calls like whathappened to you?
So I just I was thinking like,okay, how do I lie about this?
And so I just told him thetruth.
I just couldn't turn my phoneon.
I couldn't face this.
I've had this high anxiety.
I couldn't do any of this.
(10:29):
And by the end of theconversation I thought I was
getting fired.
I was told I was being a leaderin mental health and wanted me
to come in and talk to people.
Like well, what really happenedwas, on the call he started
(10:50):
telling me about his anxiety andhow all this you know, through
through this last period he'shad this with his family and I
became it's like the birthing ofthe coach started, but of just
the listener.
And through my release, thislike energetic release I felt
this sense of like feeling whathe was saying in me.
I was like, oh, I get this.
And then at the end of theconversation he's like I want to
(11:10):
talk to you more, I want you tocome in and talk to other
people.
So I went in and I kind ofreborn into something that
experienced I would callsomething woo-woo before or a
little bit funny, but I couldfeel like vibrations off of
people or just whether they wereOK or not.
So I walked into the office forthe first time after like three
(11:31):
weeks and my boss's boss waswalking and I saw her in the
parking lot and she's like wherehave you been, are you OK?
And I'm like I haven't been OK.
And then she starts crying andtelling me she hasn't been OK
and all the pressure from thejob being executive.
And we go to the coffee shopand I sit there for an hour and
listen to her and the next thing, you know, I'm.
(11:53):
I'm in this, you know, it'sjust, everyone wants to chat and
it was created by me beingvulnerable, whereas I used to
pretend that I had everythingunder control and I was good at
playing that game.
But when I shared myself likeno, I've been going through this
, I've been anxious, I've beenfeeling like this it paved a
(12:13):
path and people walked on it andso that started sort of the
birthing of a coaching business.
But I didn't know that.
Then I kind of was like okay,pick the career up, get back on
track, do the job.
You know, the old me came backin and said get back into this
old world.
So I did that.
(12:34):
But while that was happening, Iwas getting hit with messages
of like this isn't your pathanymore.
And it was scary to change pathsbecause I made a lot of money
that way.
It was pretty easy for me.
I got contracts, I made goodmoney, but something was guiding
me or there was something in methat was like there's something
(12:54):
else for you to serve peoplewith and it's being brought to
you by these conversations andthey just kept showing up.
Everywhere I went, with friends, with community, I would share
about what I was going throughand it would pave a path and
people would be telling me aboutwhat they've been going through
and how it's helped them to seesomeone that they thought was
really successful actually havesome struggles.
(13:16):
And you know, my friendsthought I had everything
together and I was like wellsometimes, but not all the time
because I'm human, and so thatbirthed a coaching career.
Speaker 1 (13:28):
Yeah, Wow, and so I mean for you.
Obviously the idea was beingdownloaded to you.
You know it was being gifted toyou, that, something else.
This is something else that'sdeveloping now.
But you know, did you studywith other people or were you
just, you know, using your ownintuition, or had you done
studies before that?
Speaker 2 (13:49):
yeah, I'd done a lot of studies before that and then
I continued to do studies afterthat, but I had.
I had done a number ofmodalities, subconscious
reprogramming things, all justfor personal use.
So I'd done this thing calledsite k for many years.
I'd done body work withmyofascial release, looking at
(14:11):
trauma in the body I'd been to.
I've traveled a lot, been toThailand with different healers,
been to other parts of Asia,all over Central and South
America, and just kind ofgarnered little bits of
information.
I was doing it, I thought, justfor me, and so it bits of
information.
I was doing it, I thought, justfor me, and so it was just
things that I was interested in.
And it kind of came togetherwhere I was like, oh, I've been
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gathering this for a long timeto serve others.
I just was keeping it to myselfand so, and then you know, I
started working under a coupleof coaches.
I went through Peter Kern'smastermind around that time and
that was a pivotal kind ofelement as well, because what he
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was describing, in the way thathe delineates this stuff, was
something that really resonatedwith what I was experiencing,
which was the absence of me andall my stories.
What became kind of present,was like the real me, and that
really resonated.
So I did that work with withhim and then I continued to do
(15:17):
work with a number of peopleyeah, fantastic.
Speaker 1 (15:20):
And that, that journey of I guess because I
know you've got a reallybeautiful quote actually on your
website which is um.
It's about when um Michelangelowas asked about how he
discovered, how he, you know,carved david, you know out of
this marble and he just said um,I just removed all the parts
(15:43):
that weren't david yeah yeahdavid was always there.
Speaker 2 (15:48):
I just removed everything that wasn't david and
that's essentially the workthat I did internally with
myself and now do with clients.
It's quite, quite simplebecause there's nothing to add.
It's a dissolution, it's asubtraction process, removing
everything in the way so theauthentic you can be revealed.
So I went through that with me,which was a struggle.
(16:10):
It was really hard.
It's quite simple but not easy.
So that's that process.
It's just removal of all of themasks, the things that I put in
the way that I thought I had todo in order to be loved and
accepted in the world, and sothat that became that driver to
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create life for me.
That wasn't serving me anymore.
Speaker 1 (16:35):
Yeah, and for somebody like you know, for
someone who's listening, who'slike, what do you mean the real
you?
You know I am the real me andall that kind of stuff.
How would you describe that Ifsomebody was like I feel a bit
lost and I feel a bit uncertainabout my life and maybe I feel a
bit inadequate, but like Idon't know what you mean by the
real me, Like, how would youdescribe that to someone who
(16:59):
maybe was just at the start ofthis journey?
Speaker 2 (17:03):
Yeah, that's a good question.
The way that I would describethat is when you're able to be
you with a sense of peace andease, and you know whether
that's there for you or not.
So the real you is in theabsence of trying to be anything
to garner love and acceptancefrom anyone else.
If I think I have to besomething, that's not me.
(17:26):
That's saying who I am is notenough.
I have to be something.
So to find that, it's knowingif you feel lost, if you feel
stuck, if you feel in thoseplaces, it's not you.
And the real you is this dynamicbeing.
It's love, it's creativity,it's ease, it's flow.
It's not static.
I have this type of personality, I'm this type of person.
(17:49):
It's always like this for meand this is how life is and
that's the human game of justreally static understanding of
everything is this way, and thegame that I'm playing is a
dynamic one.
So who I am are these.
You know I'm loving creativityand a life force, energy that
flows through this human bodythat then has fun and creates
(18:09):
things.
It's like that kid you werewhen you were five years old.
You just express.
It's just a pure lifeexpression 's, no filter.
So it's finding that, with somediscernment of being an adult
and dealing with, you know,taxes and bills and people and
that stuff.
Speaker 1 (18:24):
So there's blending of being an adult but allowing
that pure spirit to come throughyeah, how has doing this work
and going through that sort ofdark night of the soul for you
and coming into this work anddiscovering the real you, how
has it impacted your life?
How has it changed your life?
Speaker 2 (18:45):
Everything's changed.
It's changed everything Likethis work really does miracles
in so many ways.
But within my immediate familyyou family my relationship with
my wife has completely changed.
With my parents, that's thehardest one.
I feel like I got through thefinal stage of this work by
(19:07):
having this beautifulrelationship with my parents now
, and they didn't do this work.
I did it and that's the powerin it is.
It's not out there, it's in you,and so the impact is I get to
serve people.
What a blessing that is.
Help others create the life,the dream that they want.
I've, I've been able to haveimpacts on my family nieces,
(19:29):
nephews, cousins, uncles, auntseveryone through various ways,
everyone through various waysand my parents.
I've.
I've been able to, like my mom'sreally open to this work.
I've coached her, I've helpedher reframe her relationship
with her mom, who's passed.
That has a big impact and theripple effect I can't see.
And so this work for me hasjust created such a depth of
(19:52):
like, connection and love in somany areas that it it makes me
get teary thinking about itbecause it's just overwhelming.
It's a sense of like, of, of ofall, or something for life that
comes through when I see thatme going through this actually
has served so much, and in thatsense I would never wish that
(20:15):
dark night on myself or someoneelse.
But it actually created thisbeautiful gift for the world and
it was for me.
I just couldn't see it until Ican see it now.
Speaker 1 (20:25):
Yeah, and we were just talking about your mom
before, the fact that she tookup surfing at 60 and she's just,
you know, this amazingadventurous spirit.
But you also said that kind ofcame from you as well, like your
call to adventure.
Can you tell me about, likenature, and about the adventures
that that you've been on aswell?
Speaker 2 (20:46):
I know you mentioned like central america and south
america, and yeah, yeah, a bigpart of my journey was, um,
super successful in corporatecorporate America.
At a young age by the time Iwas 25, I was managing teams and
making a lot of money for aFortune 500 company which is
just a really big, rich companyout of New York City.
And I was kind of on this path,like am I going to do this
(21:11):
forever, like till I retire?
I had an awesome projection ofretirement and money and these
things retire.
I had an awesome projection ofretirement and money and these
things.
And I got an opportunity to berelocated to New York City or
take a severance pay, aredundancy package, because my
office was closing and I tookthe redundancy and moved all my
things out of my house into mytruck and packed up my surfboard
(21:31):
cameras, camping gear and Idrove into Mexico with no plan,
no phone and just the generalplan was drive South, maybe get
to Costa Rica, which is ahandful of countries down.
So that was it.
I was like I'm just going to gocamping, go like have
experience with local people.
I really wanted to learnSpanish and so I wanted to have
(21:53):
this like engagement withcommunity and just an adventure.
So I did that and the plan wasfor three months and it was
interesting because right when Iwas leaving, I got a job offer
for something where I lived,which was California, that I
really wanted, and I was like,oh, but I'm going on this trip.
Can I start in three months?
I'm like, no, it's now or we'rehiring someone else.
(22:15):
So it was like the old me waslike stay safe.
And people were telling me, assoon as you drive into mexico
with this truck with acalifornia plates, you know
someone's gonna come rob you andall this, you know stuff from
people that have never beenthere, projecting sort of all
this fear onto a place.
And I just went, took the thekind of scary route and said I'm
(22:36):
going into the unknown and, um,instead of it being three
months, it lasted um, just undertwo years.
My drive and I went through,passed through costa rica, into
south america, did volunteerprojects, camped, surf, you know
, had military pullovers withguns, police like, but so many
(22:59):
beautiful engagements andencounters with just the local
people.
It was such I thought like Iwas the one that was like
educated and smart, and I wentinto, like you know, mexico,
guatemala, el Salvador, andfound that I was learning from
everybody else, like they knewhow to be really present.
That was like kind of the startof this presence.
(23:22):
That I was lacking was peoplethat didn't have the money, kind
of didn't have the, maybedidn't have the choice, but they
had a beautiful way of creatingcommunity and people with
nothing were inviting me intotheir homes, making me family,
giving me, sharing their food.
You know they quite a few ofthem expect me to come back, you
know, and, and it was such adifferent thing than the culture
(23:44):
I came from, where we're likeoh, I hope I don't see my
neighbor and have to wave today.
You know it's like, ah, it wassuch a contrast for what I was
experiencing and um, and thatthat really is a big part of
like an adventure, that birth,because it just kept getting
deeper.
I drifted down the Amazon on aslow boat, hiked in the
(24:04):
communities and brought, youknow, gifts and things to try to
like, have an exchange andexperience, and stayed with
different healers, shamans andwent through like medicines and
local things and all kinds ofstuff and, um it, it changed my
life forever.
Speaker 1 (24:22):
So, yeah, yeah, and, and I mean now, how much does um
, I mean it might sound like abit of a weird question, but
like, how much is nature a partof your daily life now?
Speaker 2 (24:39):
Yeah, why.
Speaker 1 (24:41):
Yeah.
Speaker 2 (24:42):
I feel really connected in nature.
I've always been a surfer and abeach kid so that's kind of
been something I did.
But I would say daily I gooutside on a walk to the beach
and the ocean, to the rainforest.
Blessed to live in Australia,which has so much access to
(25:04):
nature very close by and for me,I'm, you know, kind of a bird
nerd.
I listen for the birds, checkout what's around, like really
tune in to what's there, and Ifind that's a good practice to
just becoming present as well asjust listening to the ocean, to
the sounds, you know, feelingthe sand.
Speaker 1 (25:21):
But that that experience with nature for me is
a big part of my life yeah,I've got a really loud magpie
that I listen to at 5 30 everymorning, so that's what a
blessing thank you, magpie.
Thank you, I have my ownpersonal uh uh cockerel outside
the window, so, uh, yeah, thatgets me out of bed in the
(25:42):
morning.
So that's fun, um, can you, canyou share with me?
I mean, I think obviously wemet when I went through the
mastermind, mastermind um withpeter crone and um can you
explain to me your journeythrough that process, as in
going into that as a studentyourself, and how you ended up
(26:06):
now to be working within thatteam?
You know um so close to peterand and working I'm not sure of
the exact as one of his mentorsis.
Is that the correct?
Speaker 2 (26:17):
yeah I'll explain it, yeah yeah, no, um, the, the
mastermind was transformativefor me personally and, um, it
really helped me piece all ofthese modalities together and
aligned with what I was goingthrough.
And then I was still a bit inthis space of like the.
(26:38):
Maybe it's the dark night ofthe soul, but this darkness, and
when I came out of it, I cameout of it like with with an
enthusiasm, like unlike anything, but what was left behind was
my wife, who had dealt with methrough the other period, and
then we were in this likedisconnect, like she had pretty
(27:00):
much set down everything to makesure I was OK for that giant
period of time.
And so, through doing thatmastermind, we hired Peter for
private coaching to do couplescoaching.
We were essentially breaking upand I had just moved out as a
separation and we were like wecouldn't get to a place of like,
(27:23):
really understanding each otherand being in that place of like
, how to move forward together.
So we did some coaching withPeter, which I thought, um, he
would reveal to her all of herconstraints and limitations that
were causing our problems.
And he gave me the smack downand held her in love and gave me
(27:45):
the hard love down and held herin love and gave me the hard
love and I was wrong yet again.
It won't be the last time, um.
And so through that process, uh,I got super angry at at him at
the, you know, I just had angerthat came up, um, and it really
kind of dissolved ourrelationship down to nothing,
which I thought we were like,okay, it's done and're okay with
(28:07):
that.
It was more of like a consciousseparation, you know decoupling
.
And then, when we really got tothe bottom of it and kind of
bared our souls, something newbirthed in that moment in my
relationship, which is such ablessing for me and I have such,
a, like, amazing wife, like youknow, to put up with me through
(28:28):
all of that and just even still.
And so, as a part of that, Ipitched some ideas to Peter.
While I was angry at him, Isaid, oh, I'm mad about this
coaching while it was unfolding.
However, I have some brilliantideas where I could contribute
to your environment and you knowhe's one of the top, if not the
top, mindset coaches in theworld, commands a really high
(28:50):
fee, works with, you know,professional athletes,
billionaires, millionaires inthat level, and there was some
space there to serve him in thecommunity.
So I pitched some ideas andvery long story of how to create
something powerfully which Iwork with people that I coach.
Long story short, I became oneof what's called a mastermind
(29:12):
mentor, which is his flagshipprogram, and so now in that
community I guide people where Imet you through learning the
teachings that he teaches.
Speaker 1 (29:22):
They also have an opportunity, if you're in that,
to get um to hire me as a coach,and so that's another role I
play there and it's just been ablessing for me yeah and um, I
mean I've said this to youbefore, but I'll say it again I
just can't like for me goingthrough mastermind six with you
(29:44):
and and obviously the the othertwo mentors as well, but just I
can't actually imagine what itwould have been like going
through it without you guysbeing there.
Because, my god, the integrationthat I've had and obviously
doing, you know, a couple ofone-on-one sessions with you as
well, I mean, like Peter's workis just insane, it's phenomenal,
(30:08):
but it's just there's so muchand to actually have you know
yourself and and the other twomentors just actually support
everybody through that and theintegration and just being like
it's okay, you don't have to getit all at once, you know, and
like let's, let's work throughthis.
So, yeah, thank you from thebottom of my heart for the work
that you've done.
Honestly, it's just beenamazing, so very grateful.
(30:30):
Yeah, I want to kind of talk alittle bit about for you, like,
do you have like daily practices?
I know this being this beingwith yourself and being this
real you and kind of, yeah, justbeing really at peace with who
you are but do you have dailypractices yourself to keep you
(30:54):
in alignment or just to be inalignment?
Speaker 2 (30:57):
Yeah, that's a good question.
That changes for me over timeso depending on where I've been
on my journey, I would probablyhave different answers.
Like, as I came through andfelt really, really good.
After that period I describedbefore, I put in a lot of
practices.
I was still like, don't slipback into the darkness.
(31:19):
Now I've kind of integratedthose practices that they come
through me automatically, whichis some awareness, some
acceptance.
Like if my thinking and way ofjust how I feel in a day is off,
if I feel anxious or if I feellike I start getting, you know,
(31:40):
my thinking gets critical ofmyself.
I'm really quick to see it.
So it's not that I'm at allperfect.
I still get triggered.
I get these things.
The amount of time I stay thereis short.
So the practice for me isrecognizing with awareness and
then allowing, you know, withthe acceptance and letting
things be there, and I find theysettle quickly.
(32:02):
There's a number of things thatI do in a journal settle
quickly.
There's a number of things thatI do in a journal.
I like to send blessings topeople, which is just an
invisible process that I doinside of me, including sending
them to myself, and it's like Ican't bless someone and judge
them at the same time.
So if I'm driving and there'ssome roadworks and I'm like,
look at these idiots, then I golike, oh wait, it's okay, I'll
(32:25):
send them blessings for the workthey're doing, and I can't do
both.
I can get back to judgingshortly after if I want to, but
it tends to remind me of who I'mcommitted to being and just
like being in that place of easeso that that practice works.
I like to exercise.
I think just getting in natureand moving really helps.
There's a number of things I'vedone in there, so it kind of
(32:49):
depends on how I'm feeling inthe day.
I'm in a very much like flowway of approaching those daily
practices.
Speaker 1 (32:58):
Yeah, and do you do yourself?
Obviously, I know you have beencoached and you continue to
work with Peter as well, but doyou have your own coach, like
outside of that, like, do you?
I?
Speaker 2 (33:12):
do yeah, I work with yeah.
Sorry, what was the question?
Speaker 1 (33:16):
Oh no, just yeah.
Just tell me why you know, atthe level that you're at, like
why would you still have a coach?
Speaker 2 (33:26):
I guess I don't really like see that I'm at any
level, like I actually just seethat we're all at the same level
.
It's more someone like a clientwould feel like I'm at some
level and they're below.
I don't see it that way andthat's part of the beauty of the
coaching is I'm like you'repretending to be at a lower
level, but in my own space it's.
(33:49):
I find it's just been reallyuseful for me.
It was something new.
I never did therapy, I nevertalked to anybody.
I got it all on my own.
I'm a man.
I can stack it on and sort outlife.
No one needs to help me.
That version of me is not hereand I find having a space that I
can talk into is really helpfulfor me.
And any limitations that comeup as a blind spot typically as
(34:13):
the way that I what I think ispossible, if I speak that in
with the coach that I work with,he'll come in and we'll kind of
smash that.
So anywhere I put a ceiling onwhat's possible for me, we make
that the new floor and then I'mlike, oh, but I could never get
here.
And then we put that and smashthrough and that's kind of a
(34:34):
never ending process and I findit's just really nice to have
like a safe space, someone tomirror me, for me to talk into,
to see if there's anything thatI'm missing, and just to really
make sure I'm like grounded inwhat I'm committed to creating.
Speaker 1 (34:49):
Yeah, and if somebody again hasn't tried coaching
because there's different typesof coaching, right, there's like
strategy and like action and dothis and and do that.
Like, how would you describeyour style of of coaching?
Like, what could somebodyexpect when they, when they come
to you, um, they, could expect.
Speaker 2 (35:10):
I guess the like common feedback that I get from
clients is that they're they'recreating life with a sense of
peace and ease, like that'sprobably the the, the end
product.
Like we want.
We have these goals in life.
I want to to create some people.
I work with our executives.
They want to do whatever theywant to do.
Their business owners want toexpand their business.
(35:31):
Other people stay at home, moms, and they're just overwhelmed.
You know, I kind of have thefull range of clients, very safe
space being seen, being heard,being held at like a highest
(35:51):
integrity of who you really are,so that your wisdom can come
through.
And so it's just a bit ofmirroring to see, like, what are
the programs that are running,who you are, who do you think
you are?
How do you relate to life?
How do you relate to others?
How do you relate to money, tospouses, to parents?
How did that create who you areand what is the story you're
telling yourself?
And by revealing that, we kindof discover some of the
(36:14):
subconscious constraints thatare in the way of the thing that
you want yeah, beautiful, and Imean in terms of your vision
for your life now.
Speaker 1 (36:25):
Like what, what, what do you?
What's next for you?
Like what, what do you?
What are you creating in yourlife right now?
Or, you know, is where you areright now just beautiful, and
and that's where you're at both,um, both of those things, uh
it's.
Speaker 2 (36:42):
I'm so blessed where I'm at right now and I like to
be inspired to create.
So the old me was creating inorder to fill an unfillable
bucket.
The new me has lofty goals andthings that I'm creating A lot
of.
It tends to be integrating theadventure style travel that I
love into my work.
(37:03):
So retreats would be somethingnew that I would look to doing,
which is just getting peopleinto somewhere spectacular with
great food I would like to eat,well, you know, do activities
and look at the centralprocessing of who you are in
your mind.
So essentially, my creationsare a little bit more expansion
(37:24):
into some travel with this work,um, reaching more people, kind
of helping people suffer less,helping people get into creation
, be inspired and just bethemselves, um, so that kind of
has a number of um forms, but atthe moment I've got like a
really great coaching practiceand a lot of work on and I'm
pretty blessed where I'm at too.
Speaker 1 (37:46):
Yeah, beautiful.
And for people out there who,again, maybe on this journey,
maybe on this path, like whatadvice would you give to
somebody like who is maybe goingthrough a dark night of the
soul they might not call it thatthey might not even have that
language, but are going througha really dark time in their
lives that they just don't knowif they're going to survive,
(38:08):
like.
What advice would you offerthem?
Speaker 2 (38:12):
Yeah, I mean, first thing I would say is it's okay
Like you are where you are.
It can feel really difficult ifyou're struggling, like nobody
gets me, no one can help me.
I'm always going to be likethis.
So my invitation would be toget out of resistance.
(38:33):
How do you get out ofresistance?
Can you just be where you are,which is always a hard
conversation to have withyourself in order to get out of
resistance?
It's like life is the way thatit is.
My resistance creates a gap andthat gap is filled with stuck
suffering and all kinds of stuff.
(38:54):
It's like if I injure my ankleyou know, sprained my ankle
today and then I don't like itbecause I like to go to walks
and surfing and volleyball, andit's ruining my life, it doesn't
change the fact that I havethis sprained ankle.
Now I'm suffering and have asprained ankle.
So be with the sprained ankle.
And if it's just like aninternal you know mental
(39:16):
struggle, the invitation wouldbe to you know, if you're doing
this by yourself, which I don'treally recommend but can you
just accept that whatever isthere is there.
If you can do that, get intoacceptance, that's like an
exponential leap from whereveryou are.
If you're in despair and youmake a jump to something neutral
(39:38):
, you don't have to love it, youdon't have to do anything like
that, but you just accept itLike this is the way that it is
and I can be okay ish with it.
Um, that would be a huge gain.
And then, outside of that, like, find someone, a trusted
resource that you could speakinto, someone that can kind of
hold you through it yeah,beautiful.
Speaker 1 (39:59):
Thank you, jesse.
And where?
Where can people find you?
Where can people find your workand what you've got coming up?
Speaker 2 (40:07):
Good luck finding me.
I'm hidden.
Now I've got a website,jessie-carellcom.
That's probably the easiestplace to find me.
I do have Instagram and thosethings.
I'm not super active on all thesocials and things like that.
I just kind of chip away withmy clients.
(40:27):
Let them refer people to me.
I get things through the workwe talked about with Peter and
I'm pretty low key on all ofthat stuff, but can find me
there.
I'm sure we'll share it.
But if you, yeah, that'sprobably the best ways.
Speaker 1 (40:43):
Yeah, um, I will definitely share your website
and, um, your work, and yeah,just, thank you so much for your
time today.
Jesse, it has just been solovely talking to you and, for
once, I get to ask all thequestions, which was fun yeah, I
didn't sign up for this.
Speaker 2 (41:01):
What's going on?
You put me on the hot seat.
No, thank you.
Yeah, thank you for inviting meand just for being you.
You know your commitment tohelping people getting these
messages out.
Working with people like you do, it's really beautiful and and
I'm excited to see how youcreate the things that you're in
the process of creating thankyou and I just want to add to it
(41:24):
I just really appreciate youand, uh, you are just an
absolutely magnificent humanbeing.
Speaker 1 (41:30):
I'm very, very grateful that you've come into
my life and I'm just so gratefulfor who you are, and and thank
you for just being such abeautiful support and just a
beautiful man.
Speaker 2 (41:40):
So yeah, thank you, emma, trying to make me cry at
the end.
I'm gonna keep going I'll getthem.
Speaker 1 (41:47):
Tears are there.
Speaker 2 (41:47):
I'm fighting them back.
I don't want to cry in front ofeverybody.
No, it's okay.
Speaker 1 (41:51):
It's okay to cry everybody yeah, yeah, thank you
so so much.
I really appreciate you and, um, yeah, and we will chat soon
all right, thanks, emma, see yousoon, thank you soon.
Thank you Well, I hope you gotas much out of that as I did,
(42:13):
because, even though I've workedwith Jesse one-on-one, there
were still so many goldendownloads that he shared in this
episode, and I'm super gratefulto him.
If you want to find out moreabout Jesse's work, how you can
work with him, just head to hiswebsite.
It is jesse-corellcom.
That is j-e-s-s-e-corell,c-o-r-r-e-l-lcom,
(42:35):
jesse-corellcom, and I will seeyou or speak to you in the next
episode.
Take care and look afteryourselves.
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