The CRAZY Things Women Will Do For Rockstars And Rappers [Ep 90]

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In my days, my my dark days, I'dbe like, OK, at the hotel room,
she's naked. Good job, John.
You did it. Like, oh shoot, now I gotta.
Now I gotta. I gotta I was like, I'm kind of
tired, but I mean I gotta it doesn't really count if you
don't, you know, so it's like, but I'm like that's horrible.
I know, I know, I know it's horrible, but it's like, but
that's the the mentality of likelook at me, I'm the fucking man,

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right? It's like it wasn't like the sex
doesn't matter, right? It's.
Like you heard it here, the sex doesn't matter women, so do not
give it to men unless they work for it.
The perfect we discovered through our flaws, we complete
each other better than perfect we stay through every fault we

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find. No way.
All right, welcome back to the Better Than Perfect podcast,
where every week we share with you how 2 imperfect people
helping each other grow equals 1better than perfect
relationship. That's right.
So yeah, it feels like we haven't recorded an episode in a
long time, but. Yeah, but here we are.
Yeah, and we're in our new studio, but.

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Does it look any different? Let us know in the comments.
Looks the same, but for us it looks different.
That's true. Yeah.
But yeah, so I mean, yeah, we have a pretty exciting topic.
Oh, you're just going to dive, Ithink.
We got to talk. About hot sauce.
No, no, we got something hotter than hot sauce.
Today, for sure, which is? You know, the topic is what kind

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of men do women throw themselvesat?
And, and yeah, so we're going totalk about, you know, our our
producer, he does a lot of videography for for some from
bands, right? Some rock stars.
And we were just talking to him about how these women just throw
themselves that at the at the the rock stars.

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So, yeah. So.
But yeah, I mean, yeah, welcome Rodrigo.
He's behind the camera there, but yeah.
Yeah, thanks for having. Me What is it that you know?
Do rock stars have women throw themselves at them?
What's your experience? I think there's a particular
type of rock star and I think the common denominator isn't

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necessarily that they're a rock star and it's not necessarily
fame or money or anything. It's just desirability.
Are they, are they the kind of celebrity, the kind of image
that yeah, image that women are?You know, is it like just sex

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appeal? I think so, yeah.
More sort of thing, 'cause like,does Bruce Springsteen get women
thrown at him? I don't even.
I might know a Bruce Springsteensong, but does he have sex
appeal? Sex appeal?
Yeah, he does. I mean, I don't know, I'm
thinking about. Like older, like I think back in
his day, right? I mean, I know Elvis.

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OK, Yeah. But I'm trying to think of, I
guess the equivalent of like, that doesn't have the sex appeal
sort of vibe that Rodrigo's talking about.
Yeah, like. Limp Bizkit.
No, definitely limp. Bizkit has sex appeal.
Yeah, to to. That Democratic Limp Bizkit.

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That's weird, but. I don't know if he still does,
but back in the day, but OK. Well, I don't know, maybe.
But what's what's the guy? OK, what's the guy with the
headband? The headband?
He died with the guitar and the headband and the long braids.
Bob Marley. No white guy, Old guy.

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Willie Nelson. Willie Nelson.
He died. Didn't Willie Nelson die?
I don't think so. I think he's still, he's still
alive. You mean with the braids?
Sorry. Yeah, with the braids.
I thought he died. We're going to have to Google
that. Side note though, do you
remember when I had the braids and I looked like?
Yeah, you looked like, yeah, that's it.
But see, that's why I thought itwas, you know, is that he

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doesn't have the necessarily. The but maybe back in his day.
That's what you're talking about, but I would still bet
women are throwing themselves athim even but but not.
What Rag was just trying to say is like, there's some like bands
and front men are performers that like put off that vibe and
kind of like egg it on versus like, I feel like like a Bruce

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Springsteen. He's not like being vulgarly
about it or like putting it all out there.
Is that like a vibe sort of thing?
Yeah, it just sort of like, doesdoes this person have women
already desiring him, pursuing him sort of thing?
And is he like, is the vibe and the aesthetic of the project

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kind of like, you know, sexuallycharged or whatever?
It's just, is there something about it that makes makes him
desirable? Like Grateful Dead.
Are they sexual? It's sort of that hippie orgy,
yeah. They're always wearing like tie

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dye. I never see them like showing
their boobs at a concert. I guess because I'm thinking
about the 80s where like you would see boobs like Aerosmith
and you know, those sort of vibes.
That's. Like you don't see that much.
It's not. That much?
I mean, there are some bands that, you know, still attract
that kind of those kinds of fans.

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Yeah. But it's that's it's more old
school. Behind the scenes, like I said,
like it's more of like happeningbehind closed doors.
Well, yeah, I mean, tell us whatwhat happens like, so I guess
that maybe that's a good place to start to say, OK, you know,
without specific without incriminating anyone, right.
What is the kind of see like what do you see happening when

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you're out with these these bands and you know.
I mean, I guess it's not really that surprising anymore after so
many tours or whatever, but it'sthe transactional quality of
the. Interactions, yeah.
The interactions. But the women are probably just
like, oh, now I could say I slept with a rock star or

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something. Yeah, I think even though see,
if we're talking about a male rock star, you can make the
argument that they are more in their masculine than the actual
celebrities themselves. Right.
The women are. Yeah, Because they're.
Yeah. Because they're like pursuing.
Yeah, they're just for them, it's strictly transactional.

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And like there's, there's like a, like you said, like a bucket
list sort of thing and a status elevator.
Sort of thing, yeah, like makes them look better because this
guy got with them. Right, right.
And another thing that came to mind, I don't forget what you
call it, but like the is it the 8020 rule where like?
Alfredo's Law. Where it's like 80% of women are

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attracted to. Like to 20% of men.
Yeah, yeah, yeah. And it's like, you could just
see, maybe I'm just projecting, but you could just see that
after having these sort of transactional one night stands
with celebrities, they feel like, oh, OK, well, I can get a

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celebrity. So anything below that?
Right, I don't. Want I don't want anymore, but
there it's sort of a delusional maybe it's maybe they're aware
of the delusion or whatever, butit's just a it's just a one
night stand sort of thing. That doesn't mean anything,
right? But it's that sort of they they
stay in that delusion for a while after till they realize

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that it wasn't that. Yeah, there's a term for it.
It's not a very good term, but it's called hoflation.
It's like inflation. But but it is that we were just
talking about this phenomenon. And one of the episodes I just
published where we had a clip where I was talking about this,
how one of the problems in modern society and dating is

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that women will like because of dating apps, because of
Instagram, because of access to celebrities, you know, pro
sports * rock stars, you can just DM them.
Women will will sleep with theseguys.
And these women are they're not they're not the best looking

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women in the world right there. It's like, because they don't
have to be right. But hey, you know, drunk.
All right, whatever, you know, this this girl, DM me.
Yeah, come on over. Right.
So women who are, you know, I don't want to make it too
derogatory, but they're not a 10clearly and May and not even

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maybe an 8, but they're now getting guys that in women's
world are a 10 because they sleep with a rock star or a
rapper or whatever it is. And then they now have a
inflated view of themselves. And then so the standard normal
man, they think that they're, he's beneath them when he might

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even be above them. And you know, and, and so
because, because, and, and the reason why this happens is
because in society today, we've equalized men and women saying
that, you know, you've even heard women probably say, I
could pull, could I pull you or pull like that, As if a woman
getting a guy to have sex with her is any challenge at all,

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right. And so it's like, so a woman's
valuing the wrong thing. She's like, oh, well, if a guy
sleeps with me, then I must be valuable.
Whereas it's like, no, no, no, aguy will sleep with literally
anything given the right conditions, most guys.
But will he date you? Will he marry you?
Will he take you home to mom? That's really the score that you

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should be valuing yourself as a woman.
And so when you're valuing yourself on what's the hottest
or highest status guy that will sleep with me, you're, you're
giving yourself the wrong score.And then when you have a
delusion because you're giving yourself the wrong score based
off of that, it doesn't do too well for the rest of life.
And then it makes the, the, the level higher.
So now all these guys are tryingto compete with, with guys that

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are high status that women thinkthey are entitled to and
deserve. So it's, it's like in a perfect
world, right? You know, one way of describing
it is like if you're a guy and you're 5, you would date a woman
that's a 5. If you're 6, if you date A6,
that would be like a matching ofof score right?
Now, obviously, you know, it's, it's realistically a little bit
higher. Like a woman that's a 5 would

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date a guy that's a six, right? Because women tend to.
Are you saying you're higher than me?
No, no. But I'm saying like in a, in a
in a perfect way. I think you can't get higher
than than than than 11 so, but which is what you are so yeah,
so. I was just messing with.
You. But no, I get it.
But you know. I agree with what you're saying,
but of course I have to do the woman side, right?

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This is why we're doing this podcast.
So here's the thing. Men can say forever and ever and
ever and ever that they don't care about sex the same way as
women. And I believe that to be true.
I'm not saying that that's not true.
However, a woman could hear thatand she's still going to view
sleeping with a man especially of higher status or whatever, or

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hotter than her as a win as he chose me.
And so that's why even if it doesn't mean anything to a man
when he does that, she gets thathe chose me, he wanted me.
That's also why women wear provocative clothes, because
they can get a man to want them sexually, which makes them feel

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like he wants me. Right, right.
And so then afterwards, even if they're doing it
transactionally, you know where they're doing it to kind of up
their confidence, right? It's still in their mind, even
though it's not the same thing, that the whole thing that
happened, the the intimacy, if you can call it that.

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You you saw that movie? What was that movie with Tom
Cruise? I can't remember the name.
It's impossible. No, no.
You know the movie with Tom Cruise where he was the rock
star? Oh, oh, Rock of Ages.
Rock of Ages, you've seen that movie.
Oh, you should see that. You need to see that movie.
Be after your experiences, that is.
Watch Rock of Ages. It's very similar vibe to what

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you're saying, like it's completely different experience
for a man and a woman, right? And even if it's transactional
for her too, it is to be like, oh, well, that man wanted me
enough and he's high status and he did this with me even though
it was 20 minutes. And so now I'm worth more
because this caliber of man wanted me.

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And to this extent, even though we're not together or she's
doing it too, to be like, maybe he does want me.
Maybe he sees moves. And he's like.
Oh, I need to marry that woman again.
Which to men, this is Lulu, but to women, this is how our brains
work. And it's just different because
when women hear, oh, it's just sex from a man, they can

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understand that. They can't understand that
perspective. But in a woman's mind, they're
still processing as it's not just sex, you know, so that I'm
not saying it's right, but I'm saying that that is more of like
the woman's perspective of that same today.
In society today because of how messed up our value system is

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because here's the reality, right OK, because we talk about
body count, right If a woman sleeps with a rock star or a
rapper, you know, pro athlete isnot quite as bad, but it is it's
up there but it's like. Pro athlete is just as bad.
The the the rock star rapper is,is worse because the guy's not
like sometimes the guy's not even good looking.

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And it's like, at least an athlete is like a buff guy, you
know what I mean? But.
OK, fine. That's even.
More All right, fine. We'll throw them all in the
trash can. No, they.
All yeah, they all are in the trash.
Can but if a woman sleeps with aman of high status in that way,
right? Like just throws herself at him
instead of in my mind, instead of giving her A1 body count for

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that interaction, they give her a 10 or a 15, right?
So I'm not even a big. Ghost back to sex Ed where
they're like whoever you sleep with, you slept, you've slept
with all the people that they'veslept with.
But it's not because of that, it's because of the sluttiness.
It's because of the ease of, of,of like, like of, of the whoring
yourself out. Because when I, when I say this,

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I mean because like you just sleeping with this guy because
he's high status, like, like youwould just like throw all your
morals or cheat on your husband or whatever.
Because this guy, you know, it'slike, So what, what?
And I'm not even a guy that judges on body count.
Like I, I never was. But if I were single, if I, if I

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were like considered seriously dating a woman and I found out
that that she slept with a rapper or something, I would be
like, Nope, I would. You're not marriage material.
You're not dating material. Like like even though I don't
care about, I'd rather see a high body count number than one
of those because one of those I'm like no, you're trash.
Like, it's a way to like, make yourself feel more important,

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especially because those women are probably like, I'm never
going to be a rock star. I'm never going to be a rapper.
I'm never going to be the type of woman to be with those people
unless they're like, desperatelypursuing them.
I'm not saying this is OK. No, no.
But that's I'm just. The Psychology.
Behind but they got it mixed up because they think that by
sleeping with a high status guy that that somehow makes them

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high stats or he chose me. But in reality it it actually is
the worst status thing that you can do because now men look down
on you. They're like oh man, she's just
a slut. It's actually lowering the
status there. It's absolutely ridiculous for
anybody to throw themselves at somebody to that level.
Right for what? Because what's high status is if

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you're you, you get married to arock star, you're dating a
famous celebrity. I was.
Gonna say monogamous. The rock star is actually
interested in you. That's a lot different though.
Yeah, yeah, if he if he puts you.
Then you DM and him and be like.If he puts you on his Instagram
and he's like, this is my girlfriend, like my only

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girlfriend or like, you know what I mean?
Sure. That's an elevation of status.
Yeah, that's an elevation of status, right?
If he's like, this is the chick I slept with last night.
No. You know, I don't think you're
even getting posted. No, you're not getting posted
for that. But what I'm saying though, is
that like, that's where women have it mixed up.
Today I'm not thinking that it's.
No, I know, I know you're not saying that, but I'm just saying

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it's like, like, like to understand how men view that.
They view it worse than almost anything you could do.
And and it's not because they'rejealous or because, OK, this
guy's a rock star. It's because of what it
represents. It's because it's like you, you
are so easy that just fame or money is all it takes to get
you, not the quality of the person because you don't really

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know that rock star. Like you didn't really date him.
He's not like you didn't ask forany kind of commitment.
You're like, Oh yeah, I'll just come there and, and, and suck
you off in in 20 minutes. And that's and I'll leave and,
and you never have to see me again.
It's like you're that cheap, youknow what I'm saying?
It makes you that cheap, which is not a good luck.
But here is my age-old argument.Yes, it is ultimately women's

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responsibility to not do these things.
However, how are men not upset with these men?
Because at the end of the day, Iget that men are going to want
to have sex, it's part of their biology.
But they're harming other men byjust taking these bottom of the

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barrel women that are throwing themselves at these men.
And so like, again, I'm not saying it's all men's fault, but
at the same time, men aren't helping other men by just take
like not having the standards aswell too.
Like, why are you as a man sleeping with a woman that
you're kind of disgusted by? Because it's so desperate,

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right? And then you're feeding her ego,
like, you know, you're feeding her ego, especially if you're a
rock star, like, you know that this person is just going to be
like, look what I did, I did this.
And then you're going to just belike, it was number 79 for the
week. That also doesn't make you look
good as a guy either. Like, I know women will still

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throw themselves at rock stars. They don't care how many people
that they've slept with, but they should, in my opinion.
I mean, like and personally, it's just as off putting for a
guy to have hundreds, if not if you're a Rockstar, thousands,
let's be real, probably thousands, especially if they're
taking these women that are justin the DMS, right?

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Like why do you want that? Yeah, I mean discuss.
Why do you want that? Right.
Yeah. And I agree.
Everybody's had that. But here's the thing here.
Here's the answer to your question is those guys.
I actually don't, don't, I don't, I don't hate the rock
star, Right. OK.
Because they're actually doing aservice for men.
And I'll tell you why. Because they are bringing out

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the true colors of these women that like, look, I as you know,
as a guy, yeah, I want, I want, I want a woman to be tested.
Will she sleep with the fucking rock star?
And like, is she going to send him some dirty DM and not know
anything about him and just comeover to his house right away and
and Wham, bam. Thank you, ma'am.
Yeah, that's a good filter because it's like she's willing

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to do that. I already know.
Like it's like it's saving. You know, unless she tells you
she. Doesn't tell you.
Well, look if she. Actually, what if she watches
podcast and she never tells anybody ever?
She yeah, keep your fucking mouth shut like that.
This is service announcement to women.
If you slept with a rock star rapper, do not talk about it.
Huh. But is that a lie then?
Like if you don't tell your husband these things.

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It's discretion. You don't need to talk.
I don't know every person that you've slept with.
You don't know every person I'veslept with.
I don't need to talk about it. You don't need to talk about
that. You know what I'm saying?
It's like it's discretion because.
But you're saying that if you knew.
So you're saying if a woman toldyou, told you that information
if she tells? Me like look, if I find it out
I'm already disgusted. If she tells me, I'm doubly

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disgusted because I'm like, OK, and you're bragging about this.
Like, you're like, OK, this is what I did.
No, you're you're go to the bottom of the the trashy pile
where you belong. Like I don't need to be like,
yeah, but it's like, yeah, I'm being a little bit mean.
I don't mean to be so mean. I still, you know, I love
everyone, but I'm just saying like you're you're you're
hurting yourself by by news. But but I.
Wanted to do this episode too because it is crazy how

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desperate these women are comingacross.
I'm glad you can see it because I told you about this.
I mean, I'm not saying that I thought it never happened.
Like I know that women are goingto act that way with men of
higher status of with rock starsor whatever.
But I think though, that a lot of women also act this way, not
as extreme with just regular menthat don't even really like

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them. And so I think that it's
important that women don't come off so desperate and that they
have higher standards and that they don't use sleeping with any
man really as a way to up themselves.
But, you know, like you said, society has sexualized things in

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such an extreme way. Like, all the clothes are
skimpier. Like, you know, sex sells.
It always has for a really long time.
And so from a very young age, especially, women are learning
to sexualize themselves. And that's how they get male
attention. And that's how they get men to
like them. And like, if you don't know any

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better and you don't have self respect for yourself, yeah, you
get to these desperate DMS and you're throwing yourself at any
man that's high enough that makes you feel higher about
yourself. Right, but it's.
Like it's but it's empty. Like it's not gonna actually
make you feel better. But you like to go to Ross,
right? Or Marshalls, OK, there's some

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name brands in there, some right, some some name brands.
I don't. I don't look at the brands, I
just look if it's cute. OK, but I mean, there are some
right like like, you know, the, the, whatever the extras or you
know, whatever. And then it's like, but
discount, this is discount rack at Marshalls at Ross.
'S this is. I'll just talk smack about my

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Marshalls. No, not you.
I'm saying these women, it's like you're putting yourself on
the discount rack. It's like, yeah, you can get the
sex appeal, but that's like discount.
It's so cheap, I'm gonna buy it.Great.
You see that? I'm saying it's like versus
Louis Vuitton, right? Like it's so expensive, I'm
gonna buy it, right? Like you can be so cheap, I'm
gonna buy it. I'm so expensive, I'm gonna buy

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it, right? Right.
And that's what. I think women too need to not
base themselves off of men period.
Like the end of sentence. Because when they do, then they
do go down that path where they cheapen themselves.
Well, what if you? Don't If you value yourself and
you have standards, but you're kind of people.

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I'm not saying be mean to men orwhatever or you have to write
men off, you're going to have better men.
If you have more standards and you have more self worth for
yourself, you'll naturally go down that path.
But when you you act like your worth comes from how sexy can I
look? How attractive to men can I look
or, you know, care or I have to go out with makeup on or I'm

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going to look bad. Like all those things where like
you're constantly afraid of how you look towards men or like I
need to sleep with him right away or else he won't like me
and he'll leave. No, if he leaves, then he leaves
like, but all those things push you further down the path of
like you're actually becoming unappealing to men, right?

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Versus. Exactly that's.
The other way, like when you're afraid to lose a man is when
you're most likely to lose him because and now you're, you're
acting in a desperate way, right?
That's actually gonna push him away.
We'll see. And that's why because women
don't understand men, because they don't understand men's
obsession with body count. And they're like what?
And and it's and again, like I said, you've heard my stance on

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it. I'm I'm more like body count
doesn't matter as much. It matters who who a person is
now because people make mistakesin their past.
But the reason why men are so obsessed with body count is
because what a man values in a woman is her exclusivity.
How hard is she to get right? How cheap is her sexuality,

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right? And so that's why men are like,
I want a virgin. Yeah, it's a little bit
ridiculous in this society today, but the value of it is
that this woman saved her so that that no man could get her.
And if I get her, then I must, she must actually, like, have
some standards where she's like,you know, she's preserved her

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value for her husband, right? That that's kind of the the
thinking man I know. That's the one.
A freaky version. A virgin.
Well. So it's like, in what world does
that exist? But.
But a man doesn't mind teaching a woman sexual things, but a
woman has to teach a man sexual things.
You know, it's like, but but what I'm saying is that like,
that's The thing is that it's like a a lot of times men get
looked down upon for this. And again, like when men use

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this to degrade women or to burywomen over like that's not cool
either, unless it's the rock star thing, then you can do it.
But but no, it's not. What I'm saying though, is that
like men sometimes get a bad rap, bad rap about it.
But you have to understand the value system is it's like, it's
not that. Like it's not that.
Oh, men care if you're promiscuous or that men want to

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have the exclusive video on being promiscuous.
It's just that a woman is more valuable because it's easy for
her to get sex right. But if she's choosy about it,
then that creates a higher value, right?
Just but, but it's not just men,it's anyone, right?
So if I I'm doing, I sell, right?
Like I'm doing sales calls rightnow.
So if I have a product that I'm selling and you can get it for

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super cheap or free, it doesn't have much value.
Or if I'm just throwing it at you, I'm like, OK, as soon as I
get on a sales call, I'm like, do you want to buy?
Yeah, yeah, let's get you signedup, right?
I'm not asking any questions, not seeing if you're a good fit
for the thing. Like you're like, what is this
guy like this? It doesn't it, it loses value,
right? As human beings, if something is

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easy or cheap or it's given to everyone we, we consider to be
less valuable, right? And that's the core of the of
the thing behind it. You know, even though some men
take it to an extreme and use itto to beat women with it.
I think that is the majority. That's what I was gonna say is
unfortunately, you're the only person that has said the thing

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about the body count, like you shouldn't have sex as a woman
more than you really quote need to.
Because most of the time, I mean, we know somebody that I'm
not going to say his actual name, but talked about the
virgin thing in a way that is degrading to women.
And a lot of men do talk about that in a way that's degrading

(27:11):
or trying to shame them. And a lot of women are past that
point. And but maybe they would listen
to something like you're saying,but they're not going to listen
to some guy that's like beratingthem.
And it is berating. And I mean, I do think men need
to not be so hypocritical. I'm not expecting men to be

(27:32):
virgins themselves, but if you're expecting a virgin and
you sleep with every single thing that comes your way, that
is hypocritical. And that's The thing is like, so
cuz you're right, cuz what what women want from a man that makes
him more appealing is I mean, and that's the Rockstar appeal
is that a lot of women want to sleep with the guy they want.

(27:54):
It's not necessarily that he canthat he does.
It's not that he does. Right.
It's a discernment, right? Needs to have discernment.
And he has to have discernment. So it's like, which is more
valuable, right? A guy that sleeps with lots of
women and makes it well known, or a man that, you know, that he
probably sleeps with a lot of women, but he doesn't say
anything about it and he's discreet.
You know what I'm saying? Like, you know, women want and,

(28:15):
and even that he's choosy in thesense that like, he doesn't
sleep with anything. Yeah, a lot of he might have
slept with a lot of women, but all of those women were very
attractive women, you know, I mean, they're all women.
That would be hard to get. You know, that makes a man more
valuable versus what you're saying is like, yeah, if a guy
just sleeps with with anything, then he also doesn't have any
status. To a woman, it doesn't matter if

(28:36):
the woman was hot or not. Like that's not gonna matter.
It doesn't matter. I'll tell you why and I'll tell
you where you can see this for sure.
Here's a perfect example. What's the comedian Kim
Kardashian's thing? The guy from he was on
Nickelodeon or like who? The comedian guy that was dating

(29:01):
Kim Kardashian? He was on Nickelodeon.
I don't know, Pete David, Pete Davidson.
He wasn't on Nickelodeon. Whatever.
He's on SNL OK? He was on SNL OK, but I thought
I thought the you know, the Nickpeople came from game to SNL and
ruined it, you know, but. You're only talking about one
person. Yeah, that guy, that guy.
I don't know. Are they OK?

(29:21):
I know he ruined it, but no talent, but but Pete Davidson,
OK. It's hard for you to see this
right, because of he's ugly and goofy.
OK, no, no offense, Pete. I like, I know you're not
watching the show, but but but you know, I I love you though.
But he's really funny. But anyway, he's he's ugly and

(29:43):
goofy. Like let's just be honest about
this. OK, Now women don't seem as ugly
and goofy. Why?
Because he dated a lot of hot women.
So now he's a sex symbol. He's desirable because and the
reason why is biologically womenare wired to value pre selection
just about above every other thing in terms of of attraction,

(30:06):
right. And so it's not something that
you can really be consciously aware of.
But that's exactly why rock stars that are sex symbols.
Women will be like DM and be like, I'll cheat on my husband
for you because that's the highest trigger in a woman's
brain that this man is attractive is that other
attractive women. The more attractive women that

(30:28):
want him or that he's had, the more that it's a signal that
this is a high value man. It doesn't have to do with his
physical attractiveness. It doesn't have to do with his
money. It it even doesn't necessarily
have to do with his status like how well known it is.
It's how desirable is he to other women who are of high
quality. That's the number one thing that

(30:48):
will get you laid as a man. If I can get this man, then
it'll make me feel better about myself.
And so that's why as women, you need to not use men to feel
better about yourself. Men use women to feel better
about themselves too. Because they're like, oh, if I
can sleep with a lot of hot women, yeah, I'm cool.
Right. Exactly.
So it's like it's still not a good thing either way.

(31:09):
No, no, it's not a good thing. To base yourself value off of
those things. But but, but it is like, you
know, it is proof that if a man is attractive enough, right?
And when I say attractive, I don't mean physically
attractive. I mean, has the attract, you
know, rock star status that women who would otherwise be
faithful will cheat with that guy?

(31:31):
Yeah, but I think. Not all women type of women,
obviously, right? But I mean, you're, you're,
that's what I'm saying. That's a filter, right?
But a lot of women that you wouldn't expect would do it.
I'm not saying that you're wrongand I've.
Seen it, I've seen it. That's why I was trying to tell
you like, you know, I've seen women show me their texts in the

(31:52):
past when they were with me of their boyfriend or the guy they
had the crush on or whatever it was with.
Them if they're showing you. I already know at that point I
didn't care. At that point, I was doing what
I wasn't supposed to be doing anyway.
You know what I'm saying? But.
Well. But that's why it's like, yeah,
I mean, guys definitely cheat and they will, they will cheat

(32:14):
for no good reason at all, right?
But if but women have a higher threshold of like for for an
attraction standpoint, like women will cheat for emotional
reasons, right? Emotional connection or?
For rock stars. Or for rock or yeah, rock star
celebrity, right. How many times you hear people
say, Oh, well, the celebrity exception or like, you know, you

(32:35):
can do the one cheating, you know, freak card that you get
get out of jail free card as a celebrity or, or this you can
pick one celebrity or whatever it is.
But I'm also treating too if thewomen that are married and stuff
with these rock stars are in unhappy marriages because most
people are in unhappy marriages.And so I feel like that makes

(32:56):
also make it more likely for them to do that kind of stuff.
I'm not saying that's an excuse,but.
Well, but that's why like peoplelaugh at us about because we
talk about the no celebrity crushes like you shouldn't, you
shouldn't be in a relationship and have a celebrity crush.
But I feel like if you genuinelylove your partner and you're
attracted to them and you have the type of relationship you and

(33:18):
I have, you're not. You don't have a crush on anyone
else. Well, but you have to choose
that though still, right? You know what I'm saying?
It's. Like I mean, I don't feel like I
have to choose it. No, I mean, I get what you're
saying, but but if you, if it's just acceptable, right, like
your partner has a celebrity crush and like I have a
celebrity crush, then then it's not, it's not the norm of their

(33:40):
relationship, right? It's just like if you if you
have a good connection, but thenyou have an open relationship,
then that's the norm. It doesn't like you have to have
some boundaries that are in their relationship that are
mutually understood, right? Because that's why I like the
celebrity crush thing is, is it,it's, it's just a sign.
Like if, if a guy's dating a woman and she has a celebrity

(34:02):
crush and she talks about the celebrity crush.
Well, I mean, there's no reason to think that if she had the
opportunity that she wouldn't cheat on the guy because she
already is in in effect, right, Mentally cheating on him, right?
Just I mean, it's, it's, it's disrespectful to just like if I
was like, if a woman walked by and I was like, oh, damn, look
at that hot woman. Like you'd be like, fuck what?

(34:24):
That's disrespectful, right? It's the same exact thing,
right? It's like if a guy does that, if
a woman says her celebrity crushor says, oh, this Rockstar is
hard hot or whatever, it's it's disrespectful and that, but
that's the sign and and that's where it begins.
But if you're you know, even though people laugh at us about
this in your relationship, if you're like no celebrity

(34:44):
crushes, that's not like if you call it out and you're like,
that's disrespectful. Like you're going to talk to me,
talk to me about someone else being hot in my presence, like
you shouldn't do behind my presence, but it's
disrespectful. But if that is put to a stop and
understood and agreed from the beginning, then you don't have
to worry about this. But here's my thing.

(35:06):
Yes, you're right. But I guess my thing is I don't
want to tell somebody to not have a celebrity crush if that's
the only reason they don't have one, like or they're suppressing
something like with you and I, Idon't feel like that is even a
thing. And that's the difference.

(35:26):
It's like you're saying have these boundaries.
But I would say that if you and I were together and the whole
time you were like, oh, I have acelebrity crush on this girl.
Even if I was like, no, we don'thave celebrity crushes, I don't
think I'd want to be with a person that I'm like feeling
like I'm trying to like, tame their desire for someone else.

(35:48):
And and then I get that and I agree with you.
I think though, that the societythat we live in today, sometimes
people have to be educated because they don't, they don't
realize things are wrong, right?Because they they haven't look
so many guys that that I coached, right?
They're like, Oh yeah, my girlfriend goes out to the club
twice a week or whatever they'relike.
And I'm like, do you what do younot understand?

(36:11):
And it's like, oh, she doesn't mean it and she doesn't know
either. She's just like, OK, that's what
you do, right? Because that's become so
normalized where I'm like, that should not fly.
Not even one time. Like there's none of this kind
of crap going on. But it's like, but also some of
those people, you know, not everyone's, you know, brilliant,
super high IQ, you know, 11 on the hotness scale, like you are

(36:34):
right, so. You're just buttering me up
right now. Yeah, Yeah.
Thanks. With the truth, you know, that's
the best kind of butter. But but but some people are are
dumb, right, You know, and it's like, so they just need to be
educated to understand like, yeah, that's not actually OK.
That's not actually appropriate.It doesn't like, I mean, you had
to educate me a little bit because I was a little lost, you

(36:56):
know, sheep for a while. And you're like you like you
can't just text a girl that you had had sex with, even if it
doesn't mean anything, even if you're just liking a message And
and you know, like logically, OK, yes, that I would preach
that. I know that, right.
But the life I was living was not a met was not a life where
that mattered at all, right. And so you had to bring me to

(37:18):
reality. I'm like, Hey, like guy, this.
No, you can't do that. It's the same girls do the same
thing that guys do right. You'd be the same way if I was
liking a message that some guy that I hooked up with since but.
But now what I'm saying is that some people need to be a little
rehabilitated. But I get that.
But I would rather say if you meet somebody and you get in a

(37:39):
serious relationship with them and you still have a celebrity
crush that you are you actively want to talk about, right?
You're not with the right person.
But we know people, that's what I'm saying is like those people,
they they're, I think some of the people that that we know not
naming names. There's a lot of people we know
that that have this they they need to be re educated.

(37:59):
It's not it's not a they just don't understand at all why that
damages the relationship, why that's not a good thing.
You know what I'm saying? That that that's what I'm.
Saying, I mean, I get it, but atthe same time it's like, are
they really going to learn from being like, don't do that?
Not from don't do that, from watching our podcast and
subscribing Yeah, and giving a like no, but but but actually

(38:24):
yes. Drinking.
But but from getting enough information that what we're
talking about, about why these things are important, why it
matters, you know what I mean? Because like I said, a lot of
people are like, you guys are crazy.
Celebrity crush is just as who cares?
It's not a big deal. Like if they're loyal to you,
you don't need to have boundaries.
You don't need to be no girls night out guys now.
And it's like, no, no, you don'tunderstand.

(38:45):
Like if you if you got those things, then you wouldn't have
the problems that you're going to have, right?
Because they don't understand. Why is a celebrity crush not an
innocent thing? But the reason why is because.
Well, because they think they'renever going to have the
opportunity, but then when you get the opportunity, are they
going to be sliding in the DMS? And they don't realize.

(39:06):
Their marriage. What type of relationship are
you trying to build right? Like something deeper?
Something more valuable, right than.
I think that fulfills you and you don't need celebrity crushes
or any of these other things. Yeah.
Are there any other tidbits? Cuz like, I really wanted to do
this episode cuz I just wanted to have all the craziness.
Out there there, there's also another observation is like

(39:30):
there are there are people that in the spotlight that get like
cancelled and then there are people that don't.
Yeah. And it, it seems like if you are
one of the, the, the celebritiesor rock stars or whatever that
sort of embraces that lifestyle,you sort of survive it.

(39:53):
And it's also it it maybe even amplifies it your popularity
bedroom and the and and people that don't and shy away from it
or maybe act in a way or say things to.
To people that make it seem likeyou're maybe interested in them

(40:15):
in a in a more earnest or in a genuine way, right?
And then turns out that you're not.
Right. They tend to get like.
More drama. Yeah, there's more drama and
there's people tend to feel likethe the rug is like pulled out
from under under them and stuff like that.
That's a super. That makes a lot of sense, Yeah.
Because even like that Rock of Ages show that John was talking
about, like Tom Cruise's character is very nonchalant.

(40:39):
And so when he just disposes of a woman or whatever, like it's
the norm, like it's acceptable. It's not like something as
shocking cuz like that's how that person has portrayed
themselves the whole time, right?
Like is Tommy Lee gonna get cancelled for?
Sleeping. With a groupie.
You know what I mean? No, exactly.

(41:00):
That's a good. Yeah, Tommy Lee is a good.
Which one? Tommy Lee, the drummer of.
Oh yeah. Yeah.
True, Yeah. You know what I mean?
Whereas like, I don't know if maybe Adam Levine does it, it's
a different story. Right.
Oh yeah. Well, he did do it.
And he's married with a kid too,so he got in a lot of trouble.
But but it's like, well, I mean,it's anti fragile, right?
So but it's. Like, how also do you marry a

(41:20):
rock star? Yeah, That's it.
How? Honestly, if you're married to a
rock star, I feel like it's actually pretty stupid to think
that they're only gonna be with you.
I'm not gonna lie. Like, you know, women are gonna
throw themselves. And like, how do you marry any
of the people you talked about? Like the rock stars, the
rappers, the professional athletes, except the only

(41:42):
professional athlete that I think is actually a good guy and
would not cheat on his wife is Sierra's husband.
I forget what his actual name is, but he was a football
player. But I think he retired when they
got together. Like he left for that woman he
left for Sierra, which I would also leave for Sierra because
she is beautiful and knows how to dance.
And so I don't know any of the Russell Wilson that's his name.

(42:05):
I. Don't know any of those.
Names. He was a football player.
But yeah, I just, I find it hardto believe that like any rock
star musician, athlete that is still in that field, they
haven't retired. Now, if they're retired, I think
they could do it like if they left the scene.
But I don't know that I believe that any of those people that

(42:28):
are actively in it don't have anopen relationship or some sort
of agreement or something. Well, here's here's the thing,
like a little kind of side trailon this, which is that it
depends on how you display yourself too, right?
So look, before I met you and I started posting you all over my
Instagram, I got tons of DMS everyday.

(42:50):
I mean, I've got a big like I'm a or after like I'm a like Z
list celebrity, like Z, you know, maybe maybe why on a good
day, but you know, I had 300,000followers on Instagram, you
know, a lot of and so before I started posting you on my
account, I would get a lot of DMS everyday from women.

(43:13):
But once I started posting you and women are like, OK, he's
with the woman. And not only is he with the
woman, because that's the other thing is women will still DMA
guy that's with the woman. He's professing his love for the
woman. He has a family.
He he it's clear that he wants to be with this woman.
And if you DM him, he's going tocall you out type of like, I

(43:35):
better not, you know, mess with this, this guy, it all shuts.
Down. I thought you said women go
after men that are with women. They do, they do.
It's desirable, right? But it's it's whether or not.
You entertain it or. Not well, like Rodrigo was
saying, you know, the the rock stars that put out the image of
you want to have a good time. Sure, we can we can have a good

(43:58):
time. You know, I'm an equal
opportunity employer. Those guys are opening their DM.
They're going to get a lot more hit UPS because because they're
putting out that image right? And they might even be with
someone and still put out that image right.
Like Russell Brand put out that image for a long time right now.
He's now he's getting the getting getting the the short

(44:20):
end of it. But because he's now he's now
he's made a good image for himself and now all the shit's
coming back to him. Whereas when he had a bad image,
it didn't matter when we're like, who cares, right?
But what I'm saying is that it'salso what you're doing, how
you're putting yourself portraying yourself, right?
I'm not, I'm not posting. There's traps like I was.

(44:41):
Like I was, you know you were posting.
But but you know what I'm sayinglike but again, like I said, I'm
AZ list celebrity, so I don't like it's not even that little
but but I know but. All women are Z list
celebrities. Yeah, that's true.
Yeah, all women. You have all the guys being
like, hey, hey, but hey. I just know from you, hey, from
my experience in what I saw and the DMS that I would get and I'm

(45:05):
not like I said, I. What's the craziest DM that you
could remember that you got? I would I would drive 8 hours.
No, no, I wish I I something like I can't remember where it
was just like I wish there was underwear a deer, a doe and you

(45:26):
could just grab me by the neck like if I was a deer, you could
just what something like that. That's.
Not even good. It was, it was better.
I don't remember because I I. Wish I was a.
Deer. I've blocked that whole part of
my life out of my out of my mind.
I wish I was a deer. I only remembered from second
hand memories because I've, I'velost all the, I've blocked all

(45:47):
that part of, of my life out of my, my mind, you know, and.
I'm just curious how ratchet it gets.
Like, I'm sure it can get ratchet, especially if you're on
tour with, like, a band that hasor a artist that has that
reputation, you know, where they're more like wild.
Yeah. I can only imagine, like, the
Tommy Lee thing. I don't even want to know, like,

(46:07):
what Tommy Lee and all that sortof vibe was.
But I'm sure it's still pretty crazy today.
Yeah, I mean it. I'm like, I'm trying to be
careful here. But yeah, it gets it gets pretty
insane. Some noise complaints.

(46:28):
Noise complaints, definitely more than two people.
Her bed type of thing, yeah. So pretty.
But but that is the lesson though that like cuz what
Rodrigo said from the last one Iwas thinking like is that I mean
it is true. Like a man that is high enough

(46:49):
value, high enough status, you know, sex symbol.
He can have women that will be 100% loyal to him and multiple
at the same time that will they will be like I will share this
man right like that's that's is what OK.
I need to look into the camera. Women, hold your hand.
While I say this, do not be 100%loyal to a rock star, a rapper,

(47:17):
a football player or basketball player or whatever sort of
athlete. Don't even go down that.
It doesn't even have to be. It don't be 100% loyal to
someone that you know is not 100% loyal to you.
A. High enough status man can do
that though like that is I'm. Not saying.
He can't, but I'm. Saying that women should not put
themselves in a position where they're fully committed to

(47:39):
somebody, right? I agree.
That is treating them like ordernumber 69.
Right, right. And, and like, look, you can be
a high status man, but not a gentleman.
No, like, you know what I'm saying.
So because I've had coaching clients of mine that are pretty
high status guys that have been in that situation and I've had

(48:01):
to tell them I'm like, look, yeah, I know that she's going to
let you do whatever. You want who's been in that
situation? OK, I didn't want to.
Were you talking about yourself?No no, no I wasn't, but I didn't
want to self incorrect. I played.
With. John OK, So OK, I'm a changed
man. But yes, in my days I did
experience. That's how I know these things
are true, right? I'm not saying you're.

(48:23):
Not. True.
No, no, I know. I know you're not saying, but
I'm saying that's how I know that things are true because I
experienced them, right? But, but I've had coaching
clients of mine where I've had to tell them, right.
You know, the reformed version of John had to tell him.
The old version told him something different, probably.
But but the reformed version told him, look, I know she'll do
whatever and she'll let you do whatever and she'll follow you

(48:45):
to end of the earth. But is that really fair to her
especially, you know, you don't.Care about that?
Yeah, but it's not like, yeah, Iget it.
But it's like, like, do you, youknow, like, yes, you can have
the three at the same time. It's like, but is it really, you
know, I mean. Do the right thing.
Well, and that's the other lesson of it too, which is,
which is for guys, right, For not getting cancelled.

(49:05):
It's like, and I tell guys this all the time when I was doing
dating coaching and and teachingthem, you know, how to get laid
basically. And I would say like, OK, if
you're on a dating app or something or you're out and the
girl is asking what are you looking for?
Like, say it in the gentlemanly terms, but basically be like,
oh, yeah, nothing serious. I'm just looking to have some
fun, right? Because red flag.

(49:28):
No, no, but. As a woman.
Well, yes, yes, I mean, telling the truth.
But many times a woman will be, like, relieved.
She already knew that's what youwere doing.
And she's like, OK, yeah, let's go back to your house.
And now the next day, guess whatdoesn't happen?
You're not in, you're not on blast.
You're not in the D all over thethe Internet.
You're not getting cancelled right?

(49:50):
You're not getting charges rightbecause you you were honest
upfront about what you wanted and then you got what you
wanted. You didn't manipulate them.
Whereas when a woman's like, oh,what are you looking for?
And you're like, Oh yeah, you know, I'm not entirely sure, but
I mean, I'm open to a relationship.

(50:10):
I'm kind of looking to just see what's out there and see if
something develops. I'm.
Saying I could press charges forthat because I used to hear that
lot. I could have pressed some
charges. False.
I'm talking about false ones. False ones.
Yeah, Women think that sometimes.
And then they do it and there's like, no, no, no, it counts.
Even if you think it's a mistakelater, it still counts.

(50:32):
Like you, it's just annoying to hear a guy say that and then
find out that he didn't actuallywant.
I was kidding, but. It's it's that's why women are
refract. You know, again, when I coach
guys, I was like, oh, look, the,the but your batting average
went up when you told the truth.Like you, more women want to
sleep with you. More men can tell the truth.
Right. Yeah.
Again, these women should shouldnot do that, right?
Obviously they should like they should be like, no, I'm not like

(50:55):
that kind of girl. That should be the response,
right? And then leave.
Yeah. And then and then leave be like,
you gotta actually treat me likea lady.
I'm a lady. That should be the response,
unfortunately. Because you can rehabilitate a
man that's in the whole phase. Yeah, we've seen it happen.
But that's what I'm saying is though, that that is a very good
lesson, is that if you don't want to get cancelled and you're

(51:18):
worried about me too and all this stuff, be forthright with
your intentions. You don't have to be vulgar.
You don't have to be like, I just want to fuck like that.
Like let's not some guys say DTF, but but you can be like,
yeah, I'm not looking for anything serious.
I'm just looking to have fun with fun people or something
like that, you know, fun women, fun.
People don't say fun women. I'm just putting golf, looking

(51:40):
for the whole. No.
Just on the on the green. But, but, but that's The thing
is like if you're truthful aboutit, your your percentage is
gonna go up and you're not gonnahave the the fallout.
It's when people hide things like just like, you know, if
you're openly, yeah, I'm an asshole.
OK, The Coldplay incident was itwas incident was it was a great

(52:02):
one, right? Yeah, we got to talk about that
cuz people have been asking. Astronomy, you know, CEO
whatever the the camera comes onhim and he's like who when he
ducks out of the way like he's doing something wrong, you know,
pushes around like like, you know, fend for him.
So if he would have been like ifthe camera came on him and he
was like rock on and then he like made.

(52:23):
Out. Rock on, This is Hang 10.
Hang 10 this is rock on. I love you in sign language like
this. But this is like.
No, this is rock on. OK, fine.
Rock on. Whatever.
OK. You can tell John doesn't go to
a lot of I mean, you have gone to some shows with me that you
should know. Rock on.
But you know, we're learning. But.

(52:44):
And I I only have Rockstar Developer University, I guess I
better fucking learn it. But that's true.
But but yeah, but if he would have been like rock on.
And then he just started making out with her and then and then
when they're like, dude, that's.Not your wife.
First of all, no one would have even noticed it wasn't his wife,
right? No, it would have never even you
know but if but he also. Shouldn't get away with it.

(53:06):
I agree, but I'm just saying like, you know, there's
psychology and there's morals and they're not the same.
But what I'm saying is that thatif he if he even if he did it,
made the people made a big thingof it, then if instead of
issuing this apology letter and then he's like, man, I just hey,
I can't, I can't, I love. Rock and.

(53:27):
Roll. I just love rock'n'roll.
I love women, you know, I can't help it.
Like it's just, I try to keep under control, but it's just who
I am, man. I just like, I just love women.
I'm a womanizer, What can I say?Then people have been like, OK,
there's no story here. And they'd be like, you suck.
Yeah. Person.
Yeah. They've been like you suck.
And then he would have no one would ever heard of him again.
You know, all the shit. He wouldn't have gotten fired,

(53:49):
had to resign or any of that shit.
It's when you don't own the shit.
Like when you are like, this is who I am.
Again, doesn't mean that you should like be an asshole to
everyone. But what I'm saying is when
you're not doing stuff in secret, when you're like, or
when you do get caught and you just take responsibility, like,
yeah, you know what I think? You're genuine, that's The
thing, is being genuine, yeah. What I did was wrong, but I'm

(54:09):
going to do it anyway because I want to.
OK, that's also respectable. What I did was wrong.
I shouldn't do it. I'm not going to do it anymore.
That's also respectable. But I'm sorry, I shouldn't have
done this. It's such a big mistake.
Like no, like you're Yeah. Doesn't feel genuine, like a
coward. So.
Any other tidbits to round out the episode or did we cover all

(54:31):
of them? I think, yeah, I think, I mean,
it's pretty. That's pretty much it.
There's just more colorful versions of what I've said.
But yeah. I'm sure in my in my days, my my
dark days, I would be like, I would be like, OK, at the hotel
room. She's naked.
Good job, John, you did it. You did.

(54:53):
I'm like, oh shit, now I got to.Now I got to.
I was. Like I'm kind of tired, but I
mean, I got to it doesn't reallycount if you don't, you know, So
it's like, but I'm like, that's horrible.
I know, I know, I know it's horrible, but it's like, but
that's the that's like, that wasthe mentality of like, look at
me, I'm the fucking man, right? It's like, it wasn't like the
sex doesn't matter, right? It's like.

(55:14):
You heard it here, the sex doesn't matter women, so do not
give it to men unless they work.For it, they just wanna know
that they could get it. That's it.
That's it. But that's a psychology.
It's like, I mean, women can easily outsmart men if they know
how. Like, it's very easy, right?
Like we talked about on other episodes of the podcast.

(55:34):
I can't remember the last thing I was saying about.
About what? Would be a damsel in distress,
yeah. Jesus Christ, you just control
any man like that or, or you, wewere saying something else and
you and you said, oh, I don't want to be manipulative.
What was that? But I I was going to tell you
more. About that, it was recently.
Yeah, yeah. What was that about?
It was some video we saw. Hold on.

(55:58):
Oh, I know what it was. I know the woman wanted the man
to hang a painting. And she said, tell me how to do
it, not ask him to do it, explain how to do it.
She was like, can you hang up this picture?
And he didn't use like. Later and then she was like, can
you show me or explain to me howto hang up this picture?
And then he got up and he like did it the level.

(56:19):
Thing and and actually I was going to talk to you more about
that because it's it's fine if you do that to me it's not
manipulation because two people win because.
Guess what? You get to talk and mansplain
things and I because the thing does.
Because men are so in need of respect, they're so deprived of
respect and someone to admire them that it's like, I'll hang

(56:43):
up 50 million paintings if you'll sit there and watch me do
it and like cheer for me becauseit makes me feel good.
It makes you feel good. So it's not really manipulation
because it's a benefit to both parties, but it it's smart.
Like women should think, OK, if I show this, like just sitting
there and paying attention and just watching me do it and
admiring what I'm doing or wanting my advice or, you know,

(57:04):
or thinking what I'm doing is valuable.
That is a huge benefit to your partner because most men don't
get that and that's why they treat with their secretaries
honestly. Like, not that it's right, but
I'm saying it's like it's a smart move to to make.
But here's the thing that I think women are afraid of is
that if then the man thinks the woman can't do anything and then

(57:27):
he treats her differently, like he treats her poorly.
He treats her more feminine things that not poorly.
See, that's The thing is that's the myth.
Like he's going to treat her more feminine.
He's going to be like, let me open the door for you.
Oh, your hands are too delicate.Let me take that for you.
Let me handle the wrench. You don't.
You don't deal with. That's because you don't have to
answer the door. I know you don't deal with some
random person at the door. I will deal with that.

(57:49):
I've been. Dealing with the random people
like. Necessity, but I would shield
you from it if I could, you know.
But but but that's The thing is like he will treat her more
delicate and more feminine like like you don't have to worry
about a man thinking you can't handle yourself.
Let him think that he knows. Not worried about that.
I think they're worried about being treated poorly by a man if

(58:09):
he views her as weaker or she can't do this.
If you respect and admire man, and show how much you respect
and admire him, you think he's gonna treat you poorly?
Look, I agree with you. I'm trying to go.
Through all of it so that women can hear the whole process
because they also don't have a relationship.
That's why we're having this dialogue.

(58:29):
And they don't have a man that does the gentlemanly things.
And so they might be nervous to initiate by being like, oh, can
you show me how to do this? And then cuz they might have
husbands that'll be like, can't you do it?
Like that's the reality that women might be faced with when
they do this, that you're saying.
And so I'm trying to get their perspective out.

(58:51):
You're talking to me from your perspective, which is not a
majority of men. Well, OK.
Let me tell you something also that we go off with so many
tenders, but that I've been learning as I've been deeply
into sales, right, like I'm learning to do sales tonality is
80%. It's not what you say, it's the

(59:13):
tonality. So.
If you come to a man and you're like, hey, could you show me how
to hang this, this painting, youlazy piece of shit, You know,
like, like, that's the tone. Yeah.
He's like, well, can't you do that yourself?
But if you're like, could. You you're so great at hanging
stuff and you're so handy. Can you show me how to do this?

(59:36):
Yeah, that's what it has to say.And hey, if you got to throw a
little sugar on top, you're like, oh, it just turns me on
big. Strong muscles.
It turns me on so much. Oh my God.
Like, yeah, that's it's easy. Why not do the easy thing that
benefits both parties? It's like women need women on on
average are smarter than men on average, right?

(59:57):
Men are outliers at the bottom and top.
So more men are Dumber than the dumbest women and more men are
smarter than the smartest women.But on the average, women are
smarter than men. They need to use that to.
Again, I'm not saying manipulate, but to to create win
win situations where they win just a little bit more.
OK. Right.
Like it's, it's not, it's not that hard.

(01:00:17):
You heard it here. If we all get in trouble, women,
it's John's fault. But I mean, I won't be getting
in trouble with. You but men are so starved for
respect and admiration that there's such an opportunity
there. That's true.
If you're willing to do that, you know what I'm saying?
And it's not degrading. It's not like it's a it's a win

(01:00:37):
win situation. So I think it's it's good.
Like Lana told us, give the compliments and practice.
Do we have a end segment? I mean, we, I mean, I don't want
to have to knock on wood by saying something that's going to
make us knock on wood. But it's been a long time and

(01:00:58):
we've been rocking rocking out with our socks on.
Yeah, we're doing good. Knock on wood, knock on wood,
knock on wood. Yeah, I don't think there's
anything here. Well, yeah, then I guess.
That's it, all right. Hopefully this had enough drama.

(01:01:19):
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trying to throw yourself out, either one of us, you're just

(01:02:25):
going to get the block, the block.
And if you're married? Block.
You're gonna go see one. Yeah, no.
And if you're married, you're gonna get blast.
That's it. So yeah, we haven't had.
We'll find you though. We'll blast you so.
Yeah, you're not safe here. Yeah, we are not rock stars.

(01:02:46):
Yeah, and if you did do your thing with the rock star or
whatever, just keep it like justlet's not talk about that ever
again. Don't and don't.
Yeah, don't throw yourself at anybody.
We still love you, but yeah, let's not.
Let's keep it so all. Right, keep it on the deal.
See you next week. Bye.

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