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Welcome to the Better Together Here podcast with your host,
Devin. And Ashley?
Helping you make the most of your time in New York City.
Hey everyone, and welcome to today's episode of the Better
Together Here podcast. My name is Devin.
And my name is Ashley. And today we are going to dive
into all things city bike. City Bike is the ride sharing
bike sharing platform that is all around New York City.
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We're going to talk about the costs, how to use it, some tips
for biking safely in the city. We also have of one of our new
favorite spots for you'll have to check it out segment.
So let's get right into it. When you are in New York City,
you will see throughout the citybike stations.
There'll be dozens and dozens ofbikes.
You can go up, pull bikes out, unlock them, ride them around
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anywhere in the city and park them at any of the thousands of
stations throughout the city. When it comes to city bike and
whether it is or isn't worth it,we're we're going to get more
into that. Really the biggest perk of city
bike is the convenience is that you can unlock a bike, take it
pretty much anywhere you want across the five boroughs and
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park it somewhere and be done with it and never think about it
again. You don't have to worry about
where you're going to change it up to if you're going to return
it to a. A rental place, you don't have
to worry about it getting stolen.
Yeah, not your responsibility. You just write it around and
dock it and you don't worry about it.
Very convenient. So like most things in life, you
pay for convenience. So let's talk about the cost of
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city bike. First thing a note here, if
you're listening and you are notfrom the United States, using a
city bike can be a little bit more complicated.
You have to have AUS phone number and they don't accept
things like Google Voice or fakenumbers.
So if you want or are planning to get like a USE SIM, that is
an option or you can use the payment kiosks that are at every
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city bike station. Our understanding is that the
city bike stations where you cando the payment kiosk are only
for day passes, but there might be options for pay per ride and
you can do it on like the Citi Bike website.
It's just not as intuitive. So let's talk about kind of the
four different options you have when it comes to paying for Citi
Bike. There is pay per ride, there are
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day passes, and then there are memberships.
We'll talk about the Citi Bike and Lyft Pink memberships first
because they're probably the least applicable for most
people. If you're just coming into the
city, the Citi Bike membership is $219 a year, gives you free
unlocks, it gives you free standard rides on the non E
bikes up to 45 minutes, it has discounted pricing, and it also
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gives you access to what's called bike angels in most
instances. I don't think I would ever
recommend the city bike membership because you can get a
Lyft pink membership that's going to give you all of those
things and it's actually going to be cheaper and give you more
options. The big caveat on this is that
if you do this basic Lyft Pink membership, the monthly plan,
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you only get one free unlock permonth.
There's also what's called Lyft Pink All Access.
Lyft Pink All Access is $199 a year.
They do not offer a monthly option that is going to give you
unlimited unlocks for free. That is what we use because we
live here, we bike all the time.It makes a ton of sense for us.
If you are just coming for a weekend, this probably does not
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make sense, but we will say if you are someone who takes a lot
of rideshares at home or you know, while you're in New York,
the discounts that you get through Lyft Pink might make
sense to get the membership. So like Devin said, if you are
somebody that already uses Lyft quite a bit and you're already
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doing a lot of ride sharing apps, you might already have
access to these Citi Bike memberships and you just haven't
been able to take advantage of them 'cause you haven't been in
New York City. So check and see if you have
Lyft Pink and see what it already includes.
Might be worth upgrading just soyou can have a better experience
while you're in New York. Generally speaking, if you're
just coming to the city, you have two main options.
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You can pay per ride or you can do a day pass.
So let's talk about the pay per ride first.
The pay per ride is 490 nine $4.99 to unlock and that gives
you 30 minutes for free on a standard bike.
So when we say standard versus Ebike, standard means you are
peddling with all your own gustoand power.
There are gears, but not your standard gears.
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It's it's like the it's kind. Of like a sliding gear where it
gets progressively harder. Yeah.
It's not like 12345, it's yeah. And I will add on, like the
regular bikes, it's not like theeasiest bike to ride around, but
I'd say it's fine. It doesn't operate as well as, I
don't know, like a normal bike you'd have at home with like
gears. It's not quite as smooth.
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It is, I would say, a little bitless comfortable on a city bike
than like a normal bike if you're going to ride around for
like an hour. So just take that into account.
And then after your 30 minutes on that standard bike, you start
paying $0.38 per minute. Or if you want an E bike and you
want to do the E bike where you have the assisted power and they
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are fast, like you're not, you don't feel like you're biking
really. I mean, you're, you're cruising
around with very little effort. That's going to cost you $0.38 a
minute. So if you were to do this and
you were to pull out a bike and ride around for exactly 60
minutes, that would end up costing you about $27.00 on an E
bike. If you did it on a standard
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bike, it would be closer to I think it was like 1819 dollars.
No, going ahead of like what you're planning on doing.
If you just want to come in to Central Park and be on a bike
for 20 or 30 minutes to just experience the joy of biking in
Central Park, this can be a really, really good option for
you. If you are thinking, you know
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what, I want to bike around all of Central Park.
I want to see everything. I want to stop and get off my
bike and go walk around and see all the different sites.
It can become more expensive andmore cumbersome and in that case
doing a bike rental from like a bike rental company can be more
cost effective. So for example, a 2 hour bike
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rental is around $18.00. Probably a little bit more
because of fees. It just comes down to what
you're looking at. If you are thinking, I want to
be in the park for two to four hours and I want to have a
little bit more flexibility to get off my bike and walk around
and see things, it might be better to do a bike rental
through one of the companies. Know that if you do a bike
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rental through one of the companies, you're probably going
to stand in line to get your bike.
I, we have read reviews about sometimes the bikes also not
being very good. So I mean, that's how bike
rentals are in general. You don't really know what
you're getting. You're not getting a top of the
line bicycle, but these are two options that can work for you.
As a note as well, we'll includethis in the show notes.
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If you've never had a Lyft account before, you can use our
referral link and it'll give youa free bike unlock.
So in theory, you could bike for30 minutes for free.
Actually, I think they kept it at 15 minutes for free and then
you start paying the $0.38 per minute.
So if you use our referral link,you could skip the 499 unlock
fee and only start paying per minute after your first 15
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minutes. That's a good option if you've
never had a Lyft account. Another option that you can do
with City Bike is a day pass. So the way the day pass works is
for $25 you get 24 hours of unlimited 30 minutes standard
bike rides. So essentially in that 24 hour
period, it starts at the moment that you unlock the bike, your
first bike, your unlocks are quote UN quote free and then
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your 30 minutes per ride are free as well.
And then after the 30 minutes, you go to the $0.38 a minute and
the E bike costs $0.38 a minute.So this option can make sense
if, for example, you were thinking, hey, I want to go
Saturday afternoon and do a quick 30 minute bike ride around
Central Park and then the next day you want to go down West
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Side Highway. We'll talk about this a little
bit later. You know, you want to go from
Midtown down to the financial district on a bike and see
what's that highway like. This is an option that might
make sense. One way you can kind of skirt
these 30 minute limits is that that resets every time you
redock the bike. So on the pay per ride, that
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doesn't make sense because you're paying every time you
unlock. But if you have a day pass, if
you want to be more economical about it.
Go right around for 25 minutes. Set a timer, dock your bike and
again this is regular bikes. Dock your bike, pull out a new
one the time it resets. So that would be a good way if
you wanted to go a longer distance.
Just plan on docking your bike and getting a new bike out.
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Whether or not like you should use city bike or a bike rental,
it all comes down to a couple things.
Number one, what's more important to you?
Do you plan on spending a lot oftime in the park?
Do you want to have a picnic? Do you want to have it be
leisurely and not be worrying about, oh, I'm paying for every
minute I have this bike out? If that's the case, maybe look
at a three hour bike rental for roughly $25 plus fees.
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But if you are the type of like,I just want to hop on this bike,
maybe cruise around for 20 minutes and then go dock it
somewhere else. The convenience is really where
city bike shines because you could be all the way up on the
Upper East Side and say, oh, youknow what?
We actually want to go to the Met.
Let's drop this bike off, let's park the city bike, go into the
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mat for an hour or two, come back, unlock another city bike
and go cruise around the rest ofthe park.
Whereas with a rented bike, you're going to be on the time
crunch. You have to go back to the place
where you picked it up. Frankly, having to like lock
your bike up and make sure it's not going to get stolen, it's
kind of a pain. It's not something I'd want to
be doing. I also would add, if you're
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going to rent a bike for like multiple hours from like a
specific location, you're not going to want to take that bike
to do anything touristy that's going to be at all busy because
you're going to be pushing it through massive crowds of
people. You also cannot ride bikes on
sidewalks at all in New York City anywhere, including in
Central Park. That was something that when we
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visited other countries before, biking on sidewalks is not as
big of a deal. Out in the suburbs, when I've
ridden bikes with family members, it's not that big of a
deal if you're riding your bike on the sidewalk.
However, in New York City, even in Central Park, if you're
riding your bike on the sidewalk, New Yorkers will yell
at you. It's not allowed.
You can get a ticket. It's also just very crowded and
it's not safe, frankly. Like there are so many people on
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the sidewalks that yeah, it it'sjust not an option.
I. Just want to mention that
because I remember when we were visiting New York City one time,
we were considering renting bikes and they pointed out on
the map and they were like, you can only ride bikes here on this
main path. And in my head, I was like, oh,
but we could ride on the sidewalk.
And like, you can't. Yeah, yeah, that, that's a good
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note. In Central Park, there is a
dedicated bike loop that goes around the entirety of the park.
It's just over 6 miles. That's the only place you're
supposed to ride bikes in Central Park.
So if you, for example, go alongthe bike path and you're like,
oh, I want to go see Balto statue, for example, you're not
supposed to bike on the sidewalks and you should not
bike on the sidewalk. So just keep that in mind.
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Biking around Central Park is less about like seeing all these
spots and having dedicated time and being right up close to each
different destination and more about biking around, seeing just
the ambiance of Central Park, having the experience.
There are certainly places whereyou know you could stop, get off
your bike, maybe walk it 15 feetand see the lake and see where
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everyone goes around on the paddle boats and see the view of
Midtown skyline. Like there's still great
options, just know kind of what you're getting into.
It can add up quickly, $0.38 a minute.
It might not sound like a lot, but when you do the math, like
it can become very expensive. So just be aware of that.
And that leads us to this episode.
New York know how this one againis from a coffee table book that
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we love NYC Basic Tips and Etiquette by Nathan W Pyle.
This one is tips and etiquette #57 picture of someone standing
on a sidewalk, and he's kind of drawn this Oval area around the
edge of the sidewalk that says stand back.
And it says, remember, the bigger the puddle, the bigger
the splash zone. You've seen it in tons of movies
and TV shows where they're standing on the sidewalk having
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a terrible day, and then a car rides by and hits a nasty puddle
and they get covered in New Yorkpuddle juice.
And it's just devastating. That's a real thing.
And it's not just cars. You might think, oh, you know,
I'm next to a sidewalk and the cars are, you know, 10 feet that
way because of how the lane is. Bikes can also cause you to get
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drenched by a puddle. What did you call it?
New York puddle juice. New York puddle juice.
Yeah, you really don't want any of that on you.
Let me tell you now. The streets of New York get
gross when it rains. You don't want any of that on
you. There's no need to stand right
on the edge of the sidewalk if it has been raining and there
any puddles. Just do yourself the favor,
stand back a little bit so you don't get soaked.
So that's this episode's New York know how.
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And now back to biking in the city.
We spent a bit more time talkingabout the cost because it is
complicated and it can be hard to know.
We'll kind of fly through these other parts.
Just generally for unlocking a city bike, there's a few
options. So the city bike or the Lyft app
is the easiest, most convenient choice by a mile.
Again, you have to have AUS phone number.
So if you were coming from out of country, you will need a SIM
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that is AUS SIM or you won't be able to do this option.
But it's really easy. You just open up the city bike
app once you have everything setup the first time you have to,
you know, accept terms and conditions and you have to put
in link a credit card, all that good stuff.
But then you just open up the app.
It'll show you all the docks around you.
It'll show you how many are available at that dock.
It will show you how many E bikes specifically are available
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at that dock. And then once you get to the
dock, you just click the scan button, it kind of opens up your
camera, it scans the little QR code that is on each Citi Bike,
and then boom, it unlocks the bike.
The QR code is in between the handlebars, unlike the main
panel. Again, if you don't have access
to the Citi Bike or Lyft app, you can buy the day pass at the
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station kiosks. There's kind of a little screen
there. You punch in a credit card.
It gives you a little code that you can put in to unlock the
actual bike. Once you scan it and unlock,
you'll hear it. There's a light on the station
that'll go green and then you can pull the seat safely out it.
Usually makes a noise. It's like a.
Little bit Ching. Ching.
It's almost like a cha ching. Yeah, it's very satisfying
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noise. And then when you are putting
the bike back, you want to make sure that the light goes green
again to verify that the bike isdocked.
If you put it in there and the light is still red or there's no
light, you're going to get charged per minute for leaving
that bike, quote UN quote undocked.
So verify that it goes in and locks back up.
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It also makes a satisfying noisewhen you put it back in, it's a
slightly different noise, but listen for the noise.
Look for the green light and open up your app and check to
make sure that the timer has stopped because sometimes you'll
think that you've docked it correctly and you'll walk away
and you look down on your phone 5 minutes later and you're still
getting charged. So do all of those things before
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you walk away from your bike. And before you get on a bike, we
just recommend a couple like preride checks.
Number one, I like to check the brakes and just kind of feel how
how much tension there is to know if the brakes are actually
functioning. Because it's not ideal to get on
a a bike and your back brake doesn't work at all and you have
to rely on your front brake brake completely not fun.
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Recommend adjusting the seat before you unlock.
Because again, especially if youare thinking I only want to be
on this for 30 minutes. I want to be effective with my
time. Like do all the things that you
need to do before you unlock thebike because it doesn't matter
if you're pedaling once it's unlocked, the timer is running.
On that note as well, if you areplanning on putting a bag or
something in the basket, make sure that there is a strap that
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actually goes over and will keepyour items secure.
Most of the baskets usually havea little like bungee cord type
strap that you can use, but occasionally it's like been
ripped off. So just make sure, especially if
you have like a shopping bag or something you're trying to take
with you or a backpack, make sure that that strap is intact.
And if you're riding at night, once you undock the bike, the
light should automatically turn on.
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So make sure that is the case because you want a light if
you're riding at night to be visible and to stay safe.
All right, And that leads us to this episode.
You'll have to check it out segment.
The next stop is electric shuffle.
So electric shuffle is actually I read up a little bit about
their history. It was started by a couple
friends, I believe in Nashville.I could be wrong on that.
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And it's now expanded to multiple cities.
They came up with like a proprietary technology for these
electric shuffleboard. So it's not shuffleboard where
you are the full size where you're like pushing it with your
with like the what is that called like the broom, not the
broom, but like the push thing like you would play on top of a
cruise ship deck or something like that.
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It is the like hand size shuffleboard.
With like the little pucks that you're just pushing with your
hands. But the tables are really cool
because they have this technology.
They have cameras and sensors, and they have multiple different
games that you can play on the shuffle boards.
So they have one that's kind of just your standard, like get it
closest to the middle. They have another where it's,
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you know, 12345 points, 5 being at the very end.
But then they have these other funky ones where it was kind of
like a king of the hill and theyhad one where it was who can get
their two pucks closest to each other.
And basically when you go to electric shuffle, you are paying
per person in 90 minute increments and then you are
getting the entire shuffleboard to yourself.
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So if you have a group of four or a group of 10, I don't know
what they Max out at, but you know, four or eight people,
you're all on one shuffleboard thing.
And it's basically 1V1 games that happen very quickly and
then it rotates through everyoneelse.
We went with a group of four and90 minutes was plenty.
Like we had a, we had a ton of fun.
Like I didn't feel like we needed more.
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I feel like 60 minutes probably wouldn't have felt like enough.
Like 90 minutes really felt likethe sweet spot.
And it's $25 a person to play the shuffleboard for 90 minutes.
They also did a very good job oflike explaining each game you
had like a little video board kiosk thing and you could if you
wanted to switch the game. There was like a how to video
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that made it very easy to learn a new game.
I have only played shuffleboard one other time in my life and
this was very easy to pick up. Yeah, and the staff was all very
friendly. We went on a Friday night, I
believe it was. There was a live DJ.
It just like a very like bustling energetic experience.
Just it was a fun time. You can tell there's like a lot
of birthday parties and things going on there.
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They do have some unlimited options where you can get
unlimited food and drink and 90 minutes of shuffleboard for I
think they have a brunch option on the weekends.
It's like $60.00. And then if you do that in the
evenings, it's 85. But that's getting you unlimited
food and drinks where, you know,most of the cocktails are $1718.
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And so if you're already planning on getting a few drinks
and some food, it's actually a pretty economical option for
going here. Highly highly recommend the
cocktails. All the cocktails that we tried
there were great. They also had beer buckets which
makes everything very convenient.
I had a cocktail with Peach rings candy.
Yes, it was a garnish. Yeah, it was like a Peach
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Margarita. It's like a spicy Peach
Margarita or something like that, but the.
Tahine Rim. Tahine rim Peach rings.
Yeah, I thought that too. It was great.
Great, great cocktail. So that's the Electric Shuffle.
It's on 30th St. which is a nomad area.
It's a really fun spot to go twoto even eight people.
Everyone can have a good time. You get plenty of time to play
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the different games. It's fun to like.
It's competitive, but it's not too serious.
It's a fun atmosphere, good drinks, good food.
Definitely worth checking out. That's electric shuffle.
And now back to biking in the city.
Dan, clear of the closing doors,please.
All right, just a few quick ideas if you are going to bike
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in New York City, things to think about and how to bike
safely. If you're, again, just wanting
to go into Central Park, luckilythere are city bike stations
right on the edge of Central Park that makes it very easy.
But if you are coming from elsewhere or you're planning on
biking not only in Central Park,opt for bike lanes when
possible. You can ride legally with
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traffic in a lane without a likein a car lane, but from a safety
perspective, not ideal, especially if you're not used to
riding in the city. Always ride with the traffic
direction. Understand that a lot of the
delivery drivers and bicyclist generally will ride the wrong
way. So you just I have this like
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thought in my head of it's probably my dad like when he was
teaching me to drive. Be a defensive driver.
Like assume people are going to make mistakes around you, which
like as a, as like a teenager, you're just so you're like, no,
I, I, I'll be fine. Like you'd think you'd know
better or whatever, but like, that really is just the greatest
driving advice. And it's also fantastic advice
for biking in a busy city is be defensive because people are all
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over the place. Yeah, Expect that people are
going to be riding the wrong way.
Expect that people are going to be being a little bit hazardous.
Expect that people are going to open their car door in the bike
lane. Expect that a tourist is going
to get out of a cab and not lookinto the bike lane.
Just be a defensive biker. People are very unaware.
We've talked about this as one of our New York know hows of
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like people are unaware of bike lanes.
And so just like expect people to step out in front of you,
ride cautiously, use your bell. The city bikes have bells.
We use them constantly. Annoyingly almost.
But you know what? It's good to get people's
attention. Sometimes you got to yell too.
That works. Also almost every time that I've
been like I might not need to use my bell but I'm going to in
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this situation I've like stoppedsomebody from accidentally
walking into a bike lane. So don't be shy overuse your
bell. Better to be safe than sorry.
And if you are coming anytime, Iwould say from roughly October
through March, gloves and a beanie are going to be a great,
great option. You're always colder on a bike
than you are just walking around, especially your hands.
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If you bike, even when it's like, you know, 50°, and you
might feel totally fine without gloves walking around.
But once you're on a bike going,you know, 10 to 15 miles an hour
for an extended amount of time, not having gloves is going to be
brutal. So gloves and a beanie go very,
very far when it comes to bikingin the city.
The two safest areas, least hectic areas to bike in
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Manhattan at least, are Central Park and then the bike lane on
the West Side Highway. On the West side of Manhattan,
you are on a dedicated bike paththat has bi directional bike
lanes. It's way more chill, there's
only a few lights that you hit and it's very much more
protected. Whereas throughout the rest of
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the city, if you're not used to riding a bike in the city, it's
not something we'd probably recommend.
We love biking in the city. It took some time to get used
to. When we have people come and
visit, some people, we gauge their comfort level with bikes
and some people just aren't comfortable with it and that's
totally OK with us. But we have had people who you
know, are visiting, haven't biked in a big city before, and
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when they're rising riding around with us, they do just
fine. I love it because you see pieces
of the city that you're never going to see if you are taking
the subway because you're on thesubway in most parts of the
city, you're underground, you'renot seeing the city around you.
And being on a bike let's you just really kind of take it all
in. To be honest, my final
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recommendation on just biking inNew York City slash Central
Park, I would recommend just planning on spending 27 to
$28.00 and in my opinion your best experience will be paying
the $5 to unlock or you can get that waived if you use our
referral code. Let's say pay the $5 to unlock
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your E bike, your city bike, E bike and plan on riding around
for an hour. That will cost about 27 or
$28.00 and you get to dock it whenever you want.
You can ride more if you want just know you're paying per
minute. Or you can ride less and go stay
on the main path and explore Central Park and you can dock it
at your next destination. You could ride all the way
through the park and end up deepon the Upper West Side and then
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explore that area rather than having to circle back and return
your bike to a crowded bike rental place.
Agree with pretty much all that really.
With city bike you're paying thepremium for the convenience of
being able to get on and get offa bike pretty much wherever you
want. Like in Manhattan generally, and
even Brooklyn, Queens, like mostof the boroughs.
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Like there is a city bike station within 5 minutes of
wherever you are or less. I mean, in the heart of
Manhattan, there are city bike stations on almost every other
block. Like there's so, so many of
them. And again, we focused on Central
Park because most people, that'swhere you're going to bike.
Biking around Central Park is a lot of fun.
And if you want a quick loop, you can get on a bike at 59th
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St. and 6th Ave. There's a city bike station
there with like almost 40 bikes.There's a tons ton of bikes.
You can go right into the bike area, catch the loop, the
Central Park like bike loop, riding loop, and you can have a
quick ride at 72nd St. You can cut left and it'll
transverse you across to the West side.
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You go right by Bethesda Fountain.
You can get off your bike for a minute, see Bethesda Fountain.
You can see the mall and the literary walk.
You can come back and then you'll come back right by sheet
Meadow. You can stop and take a peek at
Sheep Meadow, you can see Tavernon the Green, and then you could
literally just take that bike lane or the the bike loop
straight back to 7th Ave. and 59th St. and dock your bike and
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ride for 20 or 30 minutes and have a great wonderful
experience. And only pay $4.99 or get your
bike fee on the unlock fee waived.
If you've never used Citi Bike, you can use our referral link
and get the unlock waived. Hopefully you have a good
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